Rai accuses March 14 of obstructing state institutions

Maronite Patriarch Cardinal Bechara Boutros al-Rai indirectly criticized March 14 alliance without naming it, accusing it of obstructing the state institutions for political gains, according to a report by National News Agency.

“The church condemns all political activities that that aim at achieving personal gains at the expense of the public interest and aim at obstructing state institutions ” al-Rahi said in his opening statement of a seminar held in Bkirki.

March 14 coalition has called for the resignation of the current cabinet following the October 19 car bombing( that killed Internal Security Forces intelligence chief Wissam Hassan ) for which Syria and the Hezbollah dominated government of PM Nagib Mikati were blamed. The alliance also decided to boycott all government activities, including parliamentary sessions . March 14 wants a new neutral cabinet to be formed in order to supervise the upcoming elections.

Rai has been at odds with the March 14 alliance ever since he was elected as the new patriarch. While March 14 supports the pro-democracy uprising against the Syrian president Bashar al Assad, Rai has been praising the Syrian regime .

Rai, in an interview with Reuters this year described Assad’s Syria as “the closest thing to democracy in the Arab world”.

  • nagy_michael2

    Rai why don’t you and the church get busy helping the victims of the latest bombing in Ashrafiah instead. you and your priests are busy with politics instead of doing God’s work. whether it was your or any previous patriach should all do God’s work. Mind your business because Nassrallah’s man visit you and give you a handsome check that will keep you on their side instead. why don’t critize M8 for killing Lebanon instead.. dumb nitwit

    • Hannibal

      I agree with every word you said EXCEPT calling him names. He is a religious man and we should respect them all. That does not mean you have to agree with him. I am against religious men in any form of politics (i.e. Iran wink wink)… They should stick to the spiritual and social welfare but not politics.

      • JS_Bach

        Why should we respect them? They don’t respect non-religious people one bit, and they call them all kinds of names I have even lost count. Religious men are not entitled to any more respect than anyone else. And I agree with Nagy 100% that this guy is a dumb nitwit. M14 are now obstructing the State? HUH? Equally dumb and dimwitted is the Mufti Kabbani who keeps declaring that the government shall not be thrown out in the street.

        If they don’t want to be called names and play by the rules of society and free speech, then let them stay the hell out in their Mosques and Churches and deal with their own line of business, where they are virtually worshipped by their congregations.

        But they can’t come out and participate in and influence politics, Hannibal, and then tell me I can’t call them names and they deserve some higher order of respect than others. If they want to play the social interaction and political game, then those indeed dumb dimwits need to play by the same rules as you and me and everyone else. If Aoun, Nasrallah, Berri, Hariri, Geagea and Gemayel can be called names, than so can Kabbani and Rai and all of their likes. It’s not a Buddhist monk meditating in a mountain cave that we’re calling names here.

        • Hannibal

          The reason I said what I said is really simple… In principle I agree with you as I agreed with Nagy. What I do not like is dragging them down to the point when they become targets of assassination of character or body… What follows, in the middle east specially, is sectarian strife. It is not about sanctity as they are not Gods but it is about avoiding a blood shed that the street is itching for.

      • general10452

        replying to your previous blog, the street is itching for a bloodshed, dont you reckon that hizbollah avoided this bloodshed for a long time? wasnt hizbollah capable of eliminating all its opponents over the past few years yet refrained from doing it? at least give credit to hizbollah in that respect; this also shows that there is a complot going on and those who survive it are part of it and each knows what part of the cake, even though bloody cake, will be his

  • nagy_michael2

    Rai why don’t you and the church get busy helping the victims of the latest bombing in Ashrafiah instead. you and your priests are busy with politics instead of doing God’s work. whether it was your or any previous patriach should all do God’s work. Mind your business because Nassrallah’s man visit you and give you a handsome check that will keep you on their side instead. why don’t critize M8 for killing Lebanon instead.. dumb nitwit

    • Hannibal

      I agree with every word you said EXCEPT calling him names. He is a religious man and we should respect them all. That does not mean you have to agree with him. I am against religious men in any form of politics (i.e. Iran wink wink)… They should stick to the spiritual and social welfare but not politics.

      • JS_Bach

        Why should we respect them? They don’t respect non-religious people one bit, and they call them all kinds of names I have even lost count. Religious men are not entitled to any more respect than anyone else. And I agree with Nagy 100% that this guy is a dumb nitwit. M14 are now obstructing the State? HUH? Equally dumb and dimwitted is the Mufti Kabbani who keeps declaring that the government shall not be thrown out in the street.

        If they don’t want to be called names and to play by the rules of society and free speech, then let them stay the hell out in their Mosques and Churches and deal with their own line of business, where they are virtually worshipped by their congregations.

        But they can’t come out and participate in and influence politics, Hannibal, and then tell me I can’t call them names and they deserve some higher order of respect than others. If they want to play the social interaction and political game, then those dumb dimwits, indeed, need to play by the same rules as everybody else. If Aoun, Nasrallah, Berri, Hariri, Geagea and Gemayel can be called names, than so can Kabbani and Rai and all their likes. It’s not a Buddhist monk meditating in a mountain cave that we’re calling names here.

        • Hannibal

          The reason I said what I said is really simple… In principle I agree with you as I agreed with Nagy. What I do not like is dragging them down to the point when they become targets of assassination of character or body… What follows, in the middle east specially, is sectarian strife. It is not about sanctity as they are not Gods but it is about avoiding a blood shed that the street is itching for.

      • general10452

        replying to your previous blog, the street is itching for a bloodshed, dont you reckon that hizbollah avoided this bloodshed for a long time? wasnt hizbollah capable of eliminating all its opponents over the past few years yet refrained from doing it? at least give credit to hizbollah in that respect; this also shows that there is a complot going on and those who survive it are part of it and each knows what part of the cake, even though bloody cake, will be his

  • JS_Bach

    Riz2alla 3a iyyemak ya Batrak Sfeir ya jabal!

    • Hannibal

      One could say the same about Hafez abel bashaar… He He

  • JS_Bach

    Riz2alla 3a iyyemak ya Batrak Sfeir ya jabal!

    • Hannibal

      One could say the same about Hafez abel bashaar… He He

  • Patience2

    So, either this man works FOR the ‘street-turds’, or he really IS clueless!

    • tayyyar10452

      sadly we notice that you got not a single clue yourself; try again

      • Patience2

         ‘We’ is all you ‘fruit-flies’ from down south, Bzzz … Bzzz … Bzzz.

        • tayyyar10452

          you got no clue to anything apparently; i bet you did not even retain what i taught you: what is the name of the fruit flies? sad to see people so much handicapped, not in the fact that they are stupid and ignorant, but in that they reject any attempt or any help to get them out of the sink they are swamping in; you cant blame a a patient 2 or other for being a patient but you can blame him for refusing therapy when someone offers him cure to his disease; now in your particular case, i believe suicide is the unique, though radical treatment, for your syphilitic oops salafi disease. Just to anger you a bit more, i hope you are aware they found 16 cases of porcine influenza in saoudi arabia this week; for you to understand, porcine means coming from pork; lol saoudis do not eat pork but behave like porks

  • Patience2

    So, either this man works FOR the ‘street-turds’, or he really IS clueless!

    • tayyyar10452

      sadly we notice that you got not a single clue yourself; try again

      • Patience2

         ‘We’ is all you ‘fruit-flies’ from down south, Bzzz … Bzzz … Bzzz.

        • tayyyar10452

          you got no clue to anything apparently; i bet you did not even retain what i taught you: what is the name of the fruit flies? sad to see people so much handicapped, not in the fact that they a

  • tayyarIo452

    rouh allah yi’awwik; ya heyk ykouno al rjel aw bala

    • Hannibal

      Are you tired of changing names dude? lol… saar ma3na 7awlit el 7esen hahahahahaha. Here is a suggestion… I am not being sarcastic… every time they ban you change your name in a way to give yourself a character like prophet does tttttttt in our case an rrrrrrrr and then wear them as nayaashiin be fa5er. Proud of you man… Persistent you are.

      • general10452

        thanks ; but my reason of staying here is, unlike prophetttt, which btw i respect as i do respect you, even though we had our fights too, which is perfectly healthy and democratic, sometimes due to misunderstanding, is to prove that saoudis are just idiots; prophetttt wants peace with the admins of this blog; i do not; it is a war between us; i have 10452 computer, i emit from 10452 country & i have dozens of collaborators doing nothing but awaiting indications; as i told them  before, haifa wa ma ba3da haifa; i am waiting for them  to send me a virus; lol; the moment they do that ……ma ba3da haifa will start. Buddy, one thing you can be sure of: this blog is counterproductive; i was not pro aoun or pro hizbollah when i came here; they pushed me to become and now i am; lol

        • Prophettttt

          10452,prophettttt never asked for peace with admin of this blog,and never will. If I did, I would not be carrying all these t’s  like a Viagra effect.I only asked you to have peace with the community,so that the debate would be healthier. If we can’t live in peace in real life, let’s try to have peace in our virtual life,lol.tc
          BTW,the only reason I’m on is because I’m out of Gas for two days.lol

      • general10452

        one small remark sir: i believe a blog is private like a website; in other words, i believe a blog has the right to ban people if they are not liked and believe you me i would have been the first one to respect this if that was the case, regardless of the trisomic 21 oops i meant trisomic 5 (5th) who guides this blog & behaving like an ayatollah here; however this blog is abusing the name of Lebanon and is prostituting all lebanese values and principles the saoudi way; hence my right as a proud lebanese citizen to defend my country against the degradation and demeaning imposed by this blog even though i have to acknowledge this blog has no influence at all; as you can notice  not more than 10 people visit the blog per 24 hours most being the same people and admins

        • 5thDrawer

          hahahahahhaha …  the 5th Ayatolla ?? … hahahahhaha …. 

    • nagy_michael2

      Yes Of course he is strong now. A Month ago Raad and Moussawi visited him at his Royal Palace and offered him money. Why not Qabbani started looking at M8 since Hariri didn’t offer more money. these religiouns idiots think they can change courses of history. They cry about Christians leaving lebanon yet non of these patriachs who have and had influences helped the christians community. They can build factories and business to help employ lots of christians in their area. The Chruch hords all the money and got so much land. Besides that hallow he is wearing worth his weight in Gold. Sell the freaking thing and help the poor. His role is to help not just christians but all Lebanese and especially the poor from all sects. You can’t let M8 go around kill Lebanese then oh yah M14 with all the killings targeting them and he wants to take away their rights to complain? who the hell is he saying that way.. I would love it if all religious leaders speak of peace and harmony and criticize the oppressors not the oppressees?

      • Tayyar10452

        tossing 5 p, phonetic p’s to support 14 march beggars; kharakiri is bankrupt

      • PeaceintheME

        Maybe you should also start thinking about peace and harmony instead of most of your blogs ending with either name calling or wishing people dead. Practise what you preach Nagy

        • tayyyar10452

          brother, take care, you are talking about peace on this salafi blog, they may ban you; further this nick you carry is provocative to the salafis; your hope is that the prohariri admins of the blog dont not quiet understand english; they may miss it; i still remember an interview with rafic hariri on cnn in english; hahahahahahahahahahahaha what a mascarade for Lebanon this guy was; laughing at both the contents and the english; at that time he was still shining the shoes of hafez al assad

  • tayyarIo452

    rouh allah yi’awwik; ya heyk ykouno al rjel aw bala

    • Hannibal

      Are you tired of changing names dude? lol… saar ma3na 7awlit el 7esen hahahahahaha. Here is a suggestion… I am not being sarcastic… every time they ban you change your name in a way to give yourself a character like prophet does tttttttt in our case an rrrrrrrr and then wear them as nayaashiin be fa5er. Proud of you man… Persistent you are.

      • general10452

        thanks ; but my reason of staying here is, unlike prophetttt, which btw i respect as i do respect you, even though we had our fights too, which is perfectly healthy and democratic, sometimes due to misunderstanding, is to prove that saoudis are just idiots; prophetttt wants peace with the admins of this blog; i do not; it is a war between us; i have 10452 computer, i emit from 10452 country & i have dozens of collaborators doing nothing but awaiting indications; as i told them  before, haifa wa ma ba3da haifa; i am waiting for them  to send me a virus; lol; the moment they do that ……ma ba3da haifa will start. Buddy, one thing you can be sure of: this blog is counterproductive; i was not pro aoun or pro hizbollah when i came here; they pushed me to become and now i am; lol

        • Prophettttt

          10452,prophettttt never asked for peace with admin of this blog,and never will. If I did, I would not be carrying all these t’s  like a Viagra effect.I only asked you to have peace with the community,so that the debate would be healthier.tc
          BTW,the only reason I’m on is because I’m out of Gas for two days.lol

      • general10452

        one small remark sir: i believe a blog is private like a website; in other words, i believe a blog has the right to ban people if they are not liked and believe you me i would have been the first one to respect this if that was the case, regardless of the trisomic 21 oops i meant trisomic 5 (5th) who guides this blog & behaving like an ayatollah here; however this blog is abusing the name of Lebanon and is prostituting all lebanese values and principles the saoudi way; hence my right as a proud lebanese citizen to defend my country against the degradation and demeaning imposed by this blog even though i have to acknowledge this blog has no influence at all; as you can notice  not more than 10 people visit the blog per 24 hours most being the same people and admins

        • 5thDrawer

          hahahahahhaha …  the 5th Ayatolla ?? … hahahahhaha …. 

    • nagy_michael2

      Yes Of course he is strong now. A Month ago Raad and Moussawi visited him at his Royal Palace and offered him money. Why not Qabbani started looking at M8 since Hariri didn’t offer more money. these religiouns idiots think they can change courses of history. They cry about Christians leaving lebanon yet non of these patriachs who have and had influences helped the christians community. They can build factories and business to help employ lots of christians in their area. The Chruch hords all the money and got so much land. Besides that hallow he is wearing worth his weight in Gold. Sell the freaking thing and help the poor. His role is to help not just christians but all Lebanese and especially the poor from all sects. You can’t let M8 go around kill Lebanese then oh yah M14 with all the killings targeting them and he wants to take away their rights to complain? who the hell is he saying that way.. I would love it if all religious leaders speak of peace and harmony and criticize the oppressors not the oppressees?

      • Tayyar10452

        tossing 5 p, phonetic p’s to support 14 march beggars; kharakiri is bankrupt

      • PeaceintheME

        Maybe you should also start thinking about peace and harmony instead of most of your blogs ending with either name calling or wishing people dead. Practise what you preach Nagy

        • tayyyar10452

          brother, take care, you are talking about peace on this salafi blog, they may ban you; further this nick you carry is provocative to the salafis; your hope is that the prohariri admins of the blog dont not quiet understand english; they may miss it; i still remember an interview with rafic hariri on cnn in english; hahahahahahahahahahahaha what a mascarade for Lebanon this guy was; laughing at both the contents and the english; at that time he was still shining the shoes of hafez al assad

  • Sebouh80

    I think Al-Rai is absolutely right in this regards. In fairness speaking, the March 14 along with their political opponents the March 8 are directly responsible for our current social, political and economic malaise.

    Bottom line, I think the time has come to say goodbye for both March 14 and March 8 political currents as they have proved themselves time and again that they are part of the problem rather than the solution.

    • Prophettttt

      Sebouh80, Greeting to you.I hope it is a de-radicalization effort on the part of the patriarch and the other sectarian leaderships.

      • general10452

        great prophettttttt; unlike you they blocked many of my computers macs and ips; which means i have to use one of the yalibnan admins pc every time i have to log in and create a new nick so he does not realise it; but i am still preparing a big surprise for them; as we say a surprise is not one if it is prematurely announced; but it will still be a surprise; btw i got little time for them and i am not out of gas but our presence here is proving their saoudi tendency to dictatorship and i believe they are bringing their master kharakiri lower down in the mud, much more than what he is; now they are lucky they dont have many adherents here, otherwise, each time i change ip and they block it, they are blocking 1000’s of users of the ip; lol
        PS: sometimes i change ip every 6 months sometimes every 6 minutes and sometimes 6 x per second

        • Prophettttt

          10452, My 4 pc’s were blocked,my email addresses, associated with my accounts were also blocked.and I always had to change my IP. I’m not as fortunate to own so many pc’s, but I never compromised my principles ,nor my views. I just don’t have to time to be here as often.

        • Hannibal

          I think they block your email via Discuss which is proprietary technology and does not belong to yalibnan. They cannot block your IP address. Also their servers operate from Germany as whenever you get internal errors the server address says it is hosted in a .de national domain append. The people working at yalibnan are volunteers as I heard. Your vendetta against them is counterproductive. They are not neutral but really it is like you are asking almanar to be pro Geagea.

        • Prophettttt

          Hannibal,  IP’s can be blocked,and have been in my case. once IP is blocked, you can not  post comments regardless of whether you sign in using your email, Google, Discuss, or yahoo.At one point, my work IP and my home IPwere blocked,and could not post even under a new ID.Only when you change IP, You can post using a new ID.Trsut me, ID”s and IP’s can be blocked.

        • Hannibal

          @Prophettttt:disqus I did not mean they cannot but won’t… Now that you tell me it is so I believe you. But one can circumvent this by using many methods like VPN and Proxies.

      • Tayyar10452

        i know they can block ip’s and they blocked more than 50 ip of mine; i still have 10452-50=10402 ip

    • Hannibal

      Wow Sebouh you will get a lot of likes for your comment… Well Said…

      • general10452

        well; i never asked them not to have political opinions, but, to ban someone who was not more agressive than anybody else on the blog just for having a different opinion is not what Lebanon represents; btw i have my connections with europol, french dst, mi5 and 6, and german authorities; 

    • breakthemould

       Hear, Hear,
      I have always thought this. I think if you talk to the man in the street (does he matter? off course he does for those who understand and have sense) he will tell you that HE IS FED UP, AS I AM. I cringe when the broadcaster say “Maali Al Wazeer………..” for God’s sake why give that respect to those who do not deserve it?
      It was being said not so long ago to Smaha. Wake up every one, they are not good enough to control us, they are not good enough to work for our businesses. Would you if you have a small business employ any of them??? please think about it, if you are running a business and trying to make ends meet, would you employ any of the ministers int he government? I would not. Anyhow, we know that our universities graduate no end of good people who have not chance to join in. All we have are the same Warlords we had back in 1975. A shocking state of affairs for any country. Is it Yemen who had the same prime minister for 40 years because he was the uncle of the president. OMG we have them too, the Junblats, the Hriries, the Gmayels, the Ouns, gaaga. Surely Lebanon have others? where are they? Get rid of them and give chances to others. Load of others who are about to leave the country to live in Canada. Have some sense stop voting and just DO NOT VOTE TO ANY OF THEM. WHAT CHANCE WOULD THEY HAVE IF THE VOTER GOES ON STRIKE. Time we did.

      • tayyyar10452

        omg, you are attracting the wrath of 5thmoufti; she hates university graduates and is very happy with the illetrate hariri father and son; beware the blog might ban you for such a non respectful attitude

        • 5thDrawer

          ibid

        • 5thDrawer

          Actually, fathead, I gave it a ‘like’ … and had said essentially the same thing long ago.
          Why people ‘vote’ for anyone who can only hold endless dialogues that produce nothing is beyond me.  Mr. Mould can see that even greasing the palms produces nothing for the people.
          ( see: ‘electricity-show’ )
          But then, WHO has been educated to understand the power of a single vote where there is an honest democracy? Everyone sees burning tyres and guns as the only answer to grievances – most of which are petty little things blown into stupid proportions by brainwashed religionists. Where IS your wonderful education?
          As Mr Mould says, the best of the educated left the place once they learned a little – leaving behind those little territorial despotic dialoguers holding onto their few dark streets and hills and caves – generators humming expensively in their own little castles – and as we could see by the numbers registered to ‘vote for the homeland’, really don’t care to come back to the Impossible Dream (now not even as tourists) because it will never become better with the present system in place.
          Remove the first word from the ‘Confessional Parliamentary Democracy’ and confess that it cannot work, as well as educate that there is no need for a ‘President’ at all when there is a Prime Minister elected only within a party, allow people to vote for parties which function for the country, get rid of the guns, find some clean water, turn on a light, and perhaps a few might return eventually.
          And I didn’t need a university paper to tell me that.

        • tayyyar10452

          miss 5thmoufti; again what a moufti you are, fatbag, you do not need a phd to tell us that things are bad in Lebanon as well as in the middle east and people who can, left the country; a phd will be needed in each domain where reconstruction will be planned but before we reach this phase, we need to know if there will be a Lebanon tomorrow and what Lebanon it will be! WE are not as lucky as our jewish neighbours who convinced the americans that prophecies will be fulfilled and made america work for israel for a long period of time, thus keeping israel uptodate whilst awaiting whether there will be israel tomorrow and which israel it will be. We had france only and as you know france has no say at all and no means to; on top we are divided; worse of all is the neo salafi infestation of minds convincing some simple minded that this is democracy craving under the mask of arabic spring; i believe this is the grace bullet being shot to our head & we are trying to avoid it, a matter of survival instinct

  • Sebouh80

    I think Al-Rai is absolutely right in this regards. In fairness speaking, the March 14 along with their political opponents the March 8 are directly responsible for our current social, political and economic malaise.

    Bottom line, I think the time has come to say goodbye for both March 14 and March 8 political currents as they have proved themselves time and again that they are part of the problem rather than the solution.

    • Prophettttt

      Sebouh80, Greeting to you.I hope it is a de-radicalization effort on the part of the patriarch and the other sectarian leadership.

      • general10452

        great prophettttttt; unlike you they blocked many of my computers macs and ips; which means i have to use one of the yalibnan admins pc every time i have to log in and create a new nick so he does not realise it; but i am still preparing a big surprise for them; as we say a surprise is not one if it is prematurely announced; but it will still be a surprise; btw i got little time for them and i am not out of gas but our presence here is proving their saoudi tendency to dictatorship and i believe they are bringing their master kharakiri lower down in the mud, much more than what he is; now they are lucky they dont have many adherents here, otherwise, each time i change ip and they block it, they are blocking 1000’s of users of the ip; lol
        PS: sometimes i change ip every 6 months sometimes every 6 minutes and sometimes 6 x per second

        • Prophettttt

          10452, My 4 pc’s were blocked,my email addresses, associated with my accounts were also blocked.and I always had to change my IP. I’m not as fortunate to own so many pc’s, but I never compromised my principles ,nor my views. I just don’t have to time to be here as often.

        • Hannibal

          I think they block your email via Discuss which is proprietary technology and does not belong to yalibnan. They cannot block your IP address. Also their servers operate from Germany as whenever you get internal errors the server address says it is hosted in a .de national domain append. The people working at yalibnan are volunteers as I heard. Your vendetta against them is counterproductive. They are not neutral but really it is like you are asking almanar to be pro Geagea.

        • Prophettttt

          Hannibal,  IP’s can be blocked,and have been in my case. once IP is blocked, you can not  post comments regardless of whether you sign in using your email, Google, Discuss, or yahoo.At one point, my work IP and my home IPwere blocked,and could not post even under a new ID.Only when you change IP, You can post using a new ID.Trsut me, ID”s and IP’s can be blocked.

        • Hannibal

          @Prophettttt:disqus I did not mean they cannot but won’t… Now that you tell me it is so I believe you. But one can circumvent this by using many methods like VPN and Proxies.

      • Tayyar10452

        i know they can block ip’s and they blocked more than 50 ip of mine; i still have 10452-50=10402 ip

    • Hannibal

      Wow Sebouh you will get a lot of likes for your comment… Well Said…

      • general10452

        well; i never asked them not to have political opinions, but, to ban someone who was not more agressive than anybody else on the blog just for having a different opinion is not what Lebanon represents; btw i have my connections with europol, french dst, mi5 and 6, and german authorities; 

    • breakthemould

       Hear, Hear,
      I have always thought this. I think if you talk to the man in the street (does he matter? off course he does for those who understand and have sense) he will tell you that HE IS FED UP, AS I AM. I cringe when the broadcaster say “Maali Al Wazeer………..” for God’s sake why give that respect to those who do not deserve it?
      It was being said not so long ago to Smaha. Wake up every one, they are not good enough to control us, they are not good enough to work for our businesses. Would you if you have a small business employ any of them??? please think about it, if you are running a business and trying to make ends meet, would you employ any of the ministers int he government? I would not. Anyhow, we know that our universities graduate no end of good people who have not chance to join in. All we have are the same Warlords we had back in 1975. A shocking state of affairs for any country. Is it Yemen who had the same prime minister for 40 years because he was the uncle of the president. OMG we have them too, the Junblats, the Hriries, the Gmayels, the Ouns, gaaga. Surely Lebanon have others? where are they? Get rid of them and give chances to others. Load of others who are about to leave the country to live in Canada. Have some sense stop voting and just DO NOT VOTE TO ANY OF THEM. WHAT CHANCE WOULD THEY HAVE IF THE VOTER GOES ON STRIKE. Time we did.

      • tayyyar10452

        omg, you are attracting the wrath of 5thmoufti; she hates university graduates and is very happy with the illetrate hariri father and son; beware the blog might ban you for such a non respectful attitude

        • 5thDrawer

          Actually, fathead, I gave it a ‘like’ … and had said essentially the same thing long ago.
          Why people ‘vote’ for anyone who can only hold endless dialogues that produce nothing is beyond me.  Mr. Mould can see that even greasing the palms produces nothing for the people. ( see: ‘electricity-show’ )
          But then, WHO has been educated to understand the power of a single vote where there is an honest democracy? Everyone sees burning tyres and guns as the only answer to grievances – most of which are petty little things blown into stupid proportions by brainwashed religionists. Where IS your wonderful education?
          As Mr Mould says, the best of the educated left the place once they learned a little – leaving behind those little territorial despotic dialoguers holding onto their few dark streets and hills and caves – generators humming expensively in their own little castles – and as we could see by the numbers registered to ‘vote for the homeland’, really don’t care to come back to the Impossible Dream (now not even as tourists) because it will never become better with the present system in place.
          Remove the first word from the ‘Confessional Parliamentary Democracy’ and confess that it cannot work, as well as educate that there is no need for a ‘President’ at all when there is a Prime Minister elected only within a party, allow people to vote for parties which function for the country, find some clean water, turn on a light, and perhaps a few might return eventually.

        • 5thDrawer

          Actually, fathead, I gave it a ‘like’ … and had said essentially the same thing long ago.
          Why people ‘vote’ for anyone who can only hold endless dialogues that produce nothing is beyond me.  Mr. Mould can see that even greasing the palms produces nothing for the people. ( see: ‘electricity-show’ )
          But then, WHO has been educated to understand the power of a single vote where there is an honest democracy? Everyone sees burning tyres and guns as the only answer to grievances – most of which are petty little things blown into stupid proportions by brainwashed religionists. Where IS your wonderful education?
          As Mr Mould says, the best of the educated left the place once they learned a little – leaving behind those little territorial despotic dialoguers holding onto their few dark streets and hills and caves – generators humming expensively in their own little castles – and as we could see by the numbers registered to ‘vote for the homeland’, really don’t care to come back to the Impossible Dream (now not even as tourists) because it will never become better with the present system in place.
          Remove the first word from the ‘Confessional Parliamentary Democracy’ and confess that it cannot work, as well as educate that there is no need for a ‘President’ at all when there is a Prime Minister elected only within a party, allow people to vote for parties which function for the country, get rid of the guns, find some clean water, turn on a light, and perhaps a few might return eventually.
          And I didn’t need a university paper to tell me that.

        • tayyyar10452

          miss 5thmoufti; again what a moufti you are, fatbag, you do not need a phd to tell us that things are bad in Lebanon as well as in the middle east and people who can, left the country; a phd will be needed in each domain where reconstruction will be planned but before we reach this phase, we need to know if there will be a Lebanon tomorrow and what Lebanon it will be! WE are not as lucky as our jewish neighbours who convinced the americans that prophecies will be fulfilled and made america work for israel for a long period of time, thus keeping israel uptodate whilst awaiting whether there will be israel tomorrow and which israel it will be. We had france only and as you know france has no say at all and no means to; on top we are divided; worse of all is the neo salafi infestation of minds convincing some simple minded that this is democracy craving under the mask of arabic spring; i believe this is the grace bullet being shot to our head & we are trying to avoid it, a matter of survival instinct

  • Moe2000

    Spoken like a true leader! They will sell the country away for a few Saudi riyals.

  • Moe2000

    Spoken like a true leader! They will sell the country away for a few Saudi riyals.

  • Prophettttt

    Sectarianism has reached an unprecedented level in Lebanon.It got so bad that sectarian institutions which, for the past seven years, have radicalized their followers  to a point where they can’t control them any more. Mufti Qubani, Patriach Al-Rai, Mufti Quabalan are ,in a way, trying to reverse or slow down their own people.Two weeks ago, we witnessed Mufti Qubani take a stand against the Sunni Leadership Of Hariri, Now Patriach Al-Rai is taking a stand opposing the Christian leadership of M114,and hinting to the president to slow down.Mufti Quabalan,who has little influence over the Shiia Leadership of M8, has been calling for come and dialogue regardless.
    Whether they are right or wrong, I hope no one listens to them,and that  this can be the beginning of their irrelevance in politics.with all due respect, they should not be involved in politics. They have been wrong more often  than right.Politicians use them when they need them,and criticize them when they take stands against them..They should learn their lessons and stick to what they are supposed to do,which is guidance, prayers,and community services.The sectarian leaderships might have realized how big of monsters their institutions have created .

    • general10452

      propetttt, i myself am not a religious fanatic, but, honestly, do you think the saoudis and the wahhabis would allow any form of life that is not salafi? for your govern, the salafis signed a pact with the wahhabis in the 40’s whereby the wahhabis agreed to implement all salafi principles in saoudi arabia and to finance its propagation abroad; from here i believe that all non hariris should abide by their principles and stick together and be resistant to any form of salafi invasion which is manifested by hariri’s presence on the ground; i would feel relieved when the beirut international airport will have the name of the salafi hariri removed from it

    • jim dandy

       to me it’s like children who were’nt  brought up right

  • Prophettttt

    Sectarianism has reached an unprecedented level in Lebanon.It got so bad that sectarian institutions which, for the past seven years, have radicalized their followers  to a point where they can’t control them any more. Mufti Qubani, Patriach Al-Rai, Mufti Quabalan,are ,in a way, trying to reverse or slow down their own people.Two weeks ago, we witnessed Mufti Qubani take a stand against the Sunni Leadership Of Hariri, Now Patriach Al-Rai is taking a stand opposing the Christian leadership of M114,and hinting to the president to slow down.Mufti Quaban,who has little influence over the Shiia Leadership of M8, has been calling for come and dialogue regardless.
    Whether they are right or wrong, I hope no one listens to them,and that  this can be the beginning of their irrelevance in politics.with all due respect, they should not be involved in politics. They have been wrong more often  than right.Politicians use them when they need them,and criticize them when they take stands against them..They should learn their lessons and stick to what they are supposed to do,which is guidance, prayers,and community services.

    • general10452

      propetttt, i myself i am not a religious fanatic, but, honestly, do you think the saoudis and the wahhabis would allow any form of life that is not salafi; for your govern, the salafis signed a pact with the wahhabis in the 40’s wherethe wahhabis agreed to implement all salafi principles in saoudi arabia and to finance its propagation; from here i believe that all non hariris should abide by their principles and be resistant to any form of salafi invasion which is manifested by hariri’s presence on the ground; i would feel relieved when the beirut international airport will have the name of the salafi hariri removed from it

    • jim dandy

       to me it’s like children who were’nt  brought up right

  • general10452

    This guy reminds me of patriarch meoushi, may he rest in peace; he is a big contrast to sfeir, the diminution of sifr (zero) and khreish the diminution of kh….ra

  • general10452

    This guy reminds me of patriarch meoushi, may he rest in peace; he is a big contrast to sfeir, the diminution of sifr (zero) and khreish the diminution of kh….ra

  • 5thDrawer

    “obstructing state institutions” ….
    Hmm … so, ok … how about obstructing just the ones that don’t function?  😉

    • tayyyar10452

      har har

  • 5thDrawer

    “obstructing state institutions” ….
    Hmm … so, ok … how about obstructing just the ones that don’t function?  😉

    • tayyyar10452

      har har

  • general10452

    Guess who informed me about the existence of this unheard of wahhabi blog? a jewish friend of mine who works for mossad, oops used to work, he is retired now

  • general10452

    Guess who informed me about the existence of this unheard of wahhabi blog? a jewish friend of mine who works for mossad, oops used to work, he is retired now

  • Prophettttt

    Hannibal,5th,and 10452;I owe each one of you a reply,and I promise to do it later.

  • Prophettttt

    Hannibal,5th,and 10452;I owe each one of you a reply,and I promise to do it later.