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Only expatriate males could pass down Lebanese citizenship

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The cabinet approved a draft law Monday that would allow expatriates of Lebanese origin to have dual citizenship.

Interior Minister Marwan Charbel told An Nahar newspaper on Tuesday that the draft law allows only the children of fathers and grandfathers of Lebanese origin who were born abroad to get the citizenship and not the children of Lebanese mothers who are married to foreigners.

The draft law was approved during a cabinet session at the Baabda Palace headed by President Michel Suleiman and would likely pave the way for Lebanese expatriates take part in future Lebanese parliamentary elections by using their IDs at Lebanese embassies abroad.

The draft law will now be discussed in Parliament and must be ratified by MPs to be passed into law.

President Michel Suleiman on Tuesday hailed the cabinet’s approval of the draft law and called on the parliament to ratify the law, saying it would strengthen expatriates’ ties with Lebanon, National News Agency ( NNA) reported.

The head of the Maronite Institution for Expatriates, former Minister Michel Edde also hailed the move and told An Nahar that it is the right of Lebanese expatriates to regain the citizenship of their country of origin.

The laws of the countries that they immigrated to, particularly the Americas, Africa and some European states, used to prevent them from getting the Lebanese citizenship, he said.

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79 responses to “Only expatriate males could pass down Lebanese citizenship”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    Women have a long long long way to go for equality.

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    1. MeYosemite Avatar
      MeYosemite

      The whole ME is fucked up on sexism. In an aljazeera article saudi decapited a woman for witchcraft, I thought I saw a light at the end of tunnel, but looks like another 400 years to go comparing to other countries who went through same steps.

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    Anonymous

    Women have a long long long way to go for equality.

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      Anonymous

      The whole ME is fucked up on sexism. In an aljazeera article saudi decapited a woman for witchcraft, I thought I saw a light at the end of tunnel, but looks like another 400 years to go comparing to other countries who went through same steps.

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      Anonymous

      The whole ME is fucked up on sexism. In an aljazeera article saudi decapited a woman for witchcraft, I thought I saw a light at the end of tunnel, but looks like another 400 years to go comparing to other countries who went through same steps.

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  3. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    I guess it is the penis that decides whether a person is Lebanese or not. balad raj3e…

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    1. prophettt Avatar
      prophettt

      Yes Hannibal, but it better be a functioning one.lol

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      1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        This is only funny because you have no idea what you’re talking about! lol

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  4. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    I guess it is the penis that decides whether a person is Lebanese or not. balad raj3e…

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    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Yes Hannibal. Seems so sad too. As Robin Williams said, men have a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to run one at a time. What are those cabinet people doing all day?

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        Anonymous

        Now you know where their blood is running to …

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      Anonymous

      Yes Hannibal, but it better be a functioning one.lol

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      1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        This is only funny because you have no idea what you’re talking about! lol

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    3. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
      Jean Jacques Francois

      How bizarre Hannibal. In a country where women outnumber men, yet politicians are upwards of 95% male, it’s inexplicably strange that legislation favors the almighty penis. I wish someone could explain why!

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      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Jean, the penis grows and sometimes for no reason. At that point it requires attention to go back to it’s normal position. It’s just a delegate creature.

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          Anonymous

          Libnan1 … although women generally prefer we ‘delegate’ it to only one of them, getting that attention can be tricky sometimes. But was that a ‘freudian slip’ there?  I’m sure you meant to say ‘delicate’ … perhaps? (I won’t tell your wife. 😉

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  5. eblashko Avatar
    eblashko

    Question to all Lebanese… from what I gather, most of the Lebanese diaspora in Brazil, USA, Europe, etc. is Christian. Now that these Lebanese of the diaspora were given citizenship, do you think they’ll get the right to vote? If they do, how do you think this would effect the political map of Lebanon? 

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    1. master09 Avatar
      master09

      First read Leborigine comment above, but in short this is how most Lebanese outside Lebanon feel about the country.
      I was going to blabber on and on but in short most people who live outside Lebanon,,, like I said MOST do not give a rats ass when the country is not the Lebanese people anymore, but belongs to Syria and Iran with HA holding the GUNS on the people. No matter who votes the vote is only done for money, some people got $5000 dollars to give their vote to a party. On top of all that every other country wants to start a war against Isreal from not their land but Lebanon, What has the army or MP,S in Lebanon done about it NOTHING, IDIOTS.
      Poor Lebanon.

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    Anonymous

    Question to all Lebanese… from what I gather, most of the Lebanese diaspora in Brazil, USA, Europe, etc. is Christian. Now that these Lebanese of the diaspora were given citizenship, do you think they’ll get the right to vote? If they do, how do you think this would effect the political map of Lebanon? 

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      Anonymous

      First read Leborigine comment above, but in short this is how most Lebanese outside Lebanon feel about the country.
      I was going to blabber on and on but in short most people who live outside Lebanon,,, like I said MOST do not give a rats us when the country is not the Lebanese people anymore, but belongs to Syria and Iran with HA holding the GUNS on the people. No matter who votes the vote is only done for money, some people got $5000 dollars to give their vote to a party. 
      Poor Lebanon. 

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  7. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    why discriminate against the lebaneese woman, she is a human beiing also ???????

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    Anonymous

    why discriminate against the lebaneese woman, she is a human beiing also ???????

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    1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
      Jean Jacques Francois

      While I agree that some Lebanese women are human beings, I have a hard time agreeing with your mass generalization mr PhD. This is just a wild guess, but I take it your PhD isn’t in anthropology?

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  9. LEBANON101 Avatar
    LEBANON101

    are most lebanese ling overseas muslim or christian? . not that it matters im just wondering

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    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      No-one really knows, 101. As soon as they are out of the place they forget that religion crap. Hehehehe

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  10. LEBANON101 Avatar
    LEBANON101

    are most lebanese ling overseas muslim or christian? . not that it matters im just wondering

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    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      No-one really knows, 101. As soon as they are out of the place they forget that religion crap. Hehehehe

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    Anonymous

    are most lebanese ling overseas muslim or christian? . not that it matters im just wondering

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    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      No-one really knows, 101. As soon as they are out of the place they forget that religion crap. Hehehehe

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  12. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    So as if my father is lebanese and my mother austrian I`m able to gain lebanese citizenship along the austrian ?

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    1. josephphdman Avatar
      josephphdman

      yes that is what the new lebaneese law says

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      1. Michael Avatar
        Michael

        thats greath but still not enough , very silly to forget the lebanese women !!

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        1. josephphdman Avatar
          josephphdman

          i agree with you , they should,nt discriminate against the lebaneese woman , she is a human beiing also , beside it was,nt for the women they  coul,dnt be born , it takes two to make a baby , so give the woman her fair share

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        2. josephphdman Avatar
          josephphdman

          i agree with you , they should,nt discriminate against the lebaneese woman , she is a human beiing also , beside it was,nt for the women they  coul,dnt be born , it takes two to make a baby , so give the woman her fair share

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  13. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    So as if my father is lebanese and my mother austrian I`m able to gain lebanese citizenship along the austrian ?

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  14. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    So as if my father is lebanese and my mother austrian I`m able to gain lebanese citizenship along the austrian ?

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    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      yes that is what the new lebaneese law says

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      1. Michael Avatar
        Michael

        thats greath but still not enough , very silly to forget the lebanese women !!

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          Anonymous

          i agree with you , they should,nt discriminate against the lebaneese woman , she is a human beiing also , beside it was,nt for the women they  coul,dnt be born , it takes two to make a baby , so give the woman her fair share

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      Anonymous

      yes that is what the new lebaneese law says

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      Anonymous

      yes that is what the new lebaneese law says

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      Anonymous

      yes that is what the new lebaneese law says

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  15. Rafic Avatar
    Rafic

    To qualify your kids to become Lebanese citizen  is so difficult for any minor change in your name missing a letter or change of month even though you are born in the same year you will never be able to pass citizenship to your kids, I have been trying for the last 8 years even with hiring a lawyer going to court you have to go to Internal security Building the officers there are rude when they interview you, somebody got a job most probably a high school drop out because of his connections in his religion ,then they have to send the file to a police station where you live when you are visiting Lebanon  that is the regional Internal Security office for another interview which I performed 8 years ago with witnesses . I left 3 times to go back to Lebanon because of this still my kids do not have citizenship after spending tons of money, so what do you think will happen to all those people that emigrated in the past 100 years till now any slight change in your name or month you are born will disqualify you , you think people that do not speak Arabic will put up with this stupidity. I think not

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    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      More money, more money, more money, more money … the beauraucratic ways of Lebanon.
       (Desk-jockey syndrome of survival.)

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  16. Rafic Avatar
    Rafic

    To qualify your kids to become Lebanese citizen  is so difficult for any minor change in your name missing a letter or change of month even though you are born in the same year you will never be able to pass citizenship to your kids, I have been trying for the last 8 years even with hiring a lawyer going to court you have to go to Internal security Building the officers there are rude when they interview you, somebody got a job most probably a high school drop out because of his connections in his religion ,then they have to send the file to a police station where you live when you are visiting Lebanon  that is the regional Internal Security office for another interview which I performed 8 years ago with witnesses . I left 3 times to go back to Lebanon because of this still my kids do not have citizenship after spending tons of money, so what do you think will happen to all those people that emigrated in the past 100 years till now any slight change in your name or month you are born will disqualify you , you think people that do not speak Arabic will put up with this stupidity. I think not

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  17. Avatar
    Anonymous

    To qualify your kids to become Lebanese citizen  is so difficult for any minor change in your name missing a letter or change of month even though you are born in the same year you will never be able to pass citizenship to your kids, I have been trying for the last 8 years even with hiring a lawyer going to court you have to go to Internal security Building the officers there are rude when they interview you, somebody got a job most probably a high school drop out because of his connections in his religion ,then they have to send the file to a police station where you live when you are visiting Lebanon  that is the regional Internal Security office for another interview which I performed 8 years ago with witnesses . I left 3 times to go back to Lebanon because of this still my kids do not have citizenship after spending tons of money, so what do you think will happen to all those people that emigrated in the past 100 years till now any slight change in your name or month you are born will disqualify you , you think people that do not speak Arabic will put up with this stupidity. I think not

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    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      More money, more money, more money, more money … the beauraucratic ways of Lebanon.
       (Desk-jockey syndrome of survival.)

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  18. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    I always loved my mom more so than my dad… Maybe you should strip away my citizenship… Eh ma fasharto. Who are you to decide who is the Lebanese and who is not? Listen to this BS: Suleiman HAILED the approval HE HAILED people… WOW what a friggin accomplishment. I think one should hail 24 hours electricity and clean water and safety and human rights to ALL human. Now let me add a new rule to this stupid law of yours. Is the penis you cherish so much circumcised? If that is the case you will eliminate another half of the population.

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  19. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    I always loved my mom more so than my dad… Maybe you should strip away my citizenship… Eh ma fasharto. Who are you to decide who is the Lebanese and who is not? Listen to this BS: Suleiman HAILED the approval HE HAILED people… WOW what a friggin accomplishment. I think one should hail 24 hours electricity and clean water and safety and human rights to ALL human. Now let me add a new rule to this stupid law of yours. Is the penis you cherish so much circumcised? If that is the case you will eliminate another half of the population.

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  20. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    I always loved my mom more so than my dad… Maybe you should strip away my citizenship… Eh ma fasharto. Who are you to decide who is the Lebanese and who is not? Listen to this BS: Suleiman HAILED the approval HE HAILED people… WOW what a friggin accomplishment. I think one should hail 24 hours electricity and clean water and safety and human rights to ALL human. Now let me add a new rule to this stupid law of yours. Is the penis you cherish so much circumcised? If that is the case you will eliminate another half of the population.

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  21. Salah Itani Avatar
    Salah Itani

    Why not allow the mothers to hand down the Lebanese citizenship? My uncle who was BORN in Lebanon has had trouble getting his citizenship due to the fact my grandfather has a duel Lebanese and Syrian citizenship. Like @Rafic:disqus said one minor change in your name, one cannot pass the citizenship onto their kids, as is the case with my grandfather. Why get so stingy with who we give the citizenship to? We claim to be pro-western, but the way I see it our government is NOTHING like the governments of Europe and the United States. 

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  22. Salah Itani Avatar
    Salah Itani

    Why not allow the mothers to hand down the Lebanese citizenship? My uncle who was BORN in Lebanon has had trouble getting his citizenship due to the fact my grandfather has a duel Lebanese and Syrian citizenship. Like @Rafic:disqus said one minor change in your name, one cannot pass the citizenship onto their kids, as is the case with my grandfather. Why get so stingy with who we give the citizenship to? We claim to be pro-western, but the way I see it our government is NOTHING like the governments of Europe and the United States. 

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  23. Salah Itani Avatar
    Salah Itani

    Why not allow the mothers to hand down the Lebanese citizenship? My uncle who was BORN in Lebanon has had trouble getting his citizenship due to the fact my grandfather has a duel Lebanese and Syrian citizenship. Like @Rafic:disqus said one minor change in your name, one cannot pass the citizenship onto their kids, as is the case with my grandfather. Why get so stingy with who we give the citizenship to? We claim to be pro-western, but the way I see it our government is NOTHING like the governments of Europe and the United States. 

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  24. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    i have to admit, lebanon seems to give citizenships to pple the most in the arab world….try getting a kuwaiti passport!

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  25. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    i have to admit, lebanon seems to give citizenships to pple the most in the arab world….try getting a kuwaiti passport!

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    Anonymous

    i have to admit, lebanon seems to give citizenships to pple the most in the arab world….try getting a kuwaiti passport!

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  27. donkey65 Avatar
    donkey65

    I am a Lebanese women who is married to a European man I have been sending money to support my parents in Lebanon for over 30 years now don’t I deserve to pass on my nationality to my children? Or it’s all about the superior men who Lebanon regards as first class and women as second class? Shame on you.

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  28. Avatar
    Anonymous

    I am a Lebanese women who is married to a European man I have been sending money to support my parents in Lebanon for over 30 years now don’t I deserve to pass on my nationality to my children? Or it’s all about the superior men who Lebanon regards as first class and women as second class? Shame on you.

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  29. Leborigine Avatar
    Leborigine

    I am ashamed to be Lebanese when Lebanon regards its sons more importantly than its daughters.
    Kiss i5t hal balad 3a i5t hal 7koomee!
    There are Lebanese women who are more patriotic than any Lebanese male that I know!!

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    1. Rafic Avatar
      Rafic

      Leborigine; Usually a Lebanese mother will raise her children more Lebanese then if the father is only Lebanese and the mother is foreign and does not speak any Arabic, don’t you think so? . Also if a Lebanese male emigre overseas has only girl siblings ,that means if the daughters get married and have children from non Lebanese men,  that means the emigre fathers line will be eliminated in Lebanon , and I do not think it is fair for the Lebanese expats female grand children to be discriminated in such a way, . The lawmakers should revise the law again and amend it.

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  30. Avatar
    Anonymous

    I am ashamed to be Lebanese when Lebanon regards its sons more importantly than its daughters.
    Kiss i5t hal balad 3a i5t hal 7koomee!
    There are Lebanese women who are more patriotic than any Lebanese male that I know!!

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  31. Avatar
    Anonymous

    I am ashamed to be Lebanese when Lebanon regards its sons more importantly than its daughters.
    Kiss i5t hal balad 3a i5t hal 7koomee!
    There are Lebanese women who are more patriotic than any Lebanese male that I know!!

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      Anonymous

      Leborigine; Usually a Lebanese mother will raise her children more Lebanese then if the father is only Lebanese and the mother is foreign and does not speak any Arabic, don’t you think so? . Also if a Lebanese male emigre overseas has only girl siblings ,that means if the daughters get married and have children from non Lebanese men,  that means the emigre fathers line will be eliminated in Lebanon , and I do not think it is fair for the Lebanese expats female grand children to be discriminated in such a way, . The lawmakers should revise the law again and amend it.

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