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MP Wannous: Bassil is “a disaster” for Lebanon’s electricity

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March 14 MP Badr Wannous said on Tuesday that Energy Minister Gebran Bassil is “a disaster” for Lebanon’s electricity.

“No one is more keen on the electricity proposal than us… but there are some MPs who are working against the law,” Wannous told Sawt al-Mada radio station.

The MP said that he “wants to know” how $ 1.2 billion will be spent on Bassil’s electricity draft bill, which was approved by the cabinet earlier this month.

“The government demanded Bassil determine his conditions in order to execute the project, but the minister does not want to present his plan and wants to spend the funds the way he pleases,” Wannous added.

He also said that he “does not trust” Bassil and called for establishing a committee to monitor the Energy Ministry’s implementation of the energy project.

In a related development March 14 MP Ghazi Youssef said on Tuesday that his Furure Movement bloc’s MPs have doubts about Energy Minister Gebran Bassil.

“We have our doubts about this minister [Bassil] and we publicly say it because he has suspicious [business contracts],” Youssef told Voice of Lebanon

“We proposed amendments for the electricity plan when we realized that the bill presented to the parliament is different than the one approved by the cabinet,” Youssef added.

The joint parliamentary committees discussed on Monday the amendments proposed by March 14 MPs concerning the electricity bill. However, the proposed amendments were rejected by March 8 MPs.

Following a long dispute between ministers, on September 7 the cabinet approved the electricity plan to transfer funds to the Energy Ministry and increase energy output by 700 megawatts.

The cabinet approved earlier this month the electricity plan aiming to increase electricity output by 700 Megawatts.

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136 responses to “MP Wannous: Bassil is “a disaster” for Lebanon’s electricity”

  1. master09 Avatar
    master09

    Give me 1.2 billion I have a plan, but I am not telling what the plan is HAHAHA just give me the money please. No wonder why Lebanon is broke, MP’s do business with who they want , Sounds like MP’S give government contracts to family members and friends charging 3 time more than the job is worth than split the money.
      
    We have our doubts about this minister [Bassil] and we publicly say it because he has suspicious [business contracts],” Youssef told Voice of Lebanon  .  

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Right .. has anyone seen an actual PLAN of electrical distribution and creation for the WHOLE country? Something which represents the technical methods? An actual ‘plan’? Routes for wiring? Or … even wire?
      Oh … yes … we saw ONE POLE !!

      1. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        Yeah one pole and they tried to remove it. Go figure … Are you at the beach yet?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Unfortunately no … but it’s a happy thought for later 🙂  Hope your day is going well.

      2. antar2011 Avatar
        antar2011

        more so, he does not want any body or anyone monitoring his expenditure… el 3ama, he is not ashamed el 7aqeer.

    2. shankarees Avatar
      shankarees

      You people!!!  Why don’t you let Bassil steal 3a rawaa2?

      1. master09 Avatar
        master09

        In the North of Lebanon a Uni is going to be built in 1 year who are they getting to build it a european country. WHY? well when a company in Lebanon do a contract they will sub contract a job so many times that you end up paying 500% more for the job.
        This is how it works, I get the contract, I sub contract the job out then so on and so on, so 10 people make money and they don,t even have to lift a finger. The Lebanese are good business people outside Lebanon but in Lebanon they sell thier mother .

        How about getting companies to tender the job ,with them showing all cost, planning and time frame that would be simple yes.
        These guys are saying give me the money, thats it, you don’t need to stress about how I’m going to steal IT.   Funny yes well this is the story of Lebanon for 35 years. 
             

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Yah … try getting a ‘non-verbal’ bill from a hospital … 🙁

    3. shankarees Avatar
      shankarees

      You people!!!  Why don’t you let Bassil steal 3a rawaa2?

  2. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Give me 1.2 billion I have a plan, but I am not telling what the plan is HAHAHA just give me the money please. No wonder why Lebanon is broke, MP’s do business with who they want , Sounds like MP’S give government contracts to family members and friends charging 3 time more than the job is worth than split the money.
      
    We have our doubts about this minister [Bassil] and we publicly say it because he has suspicious [business contracts],” Youssef told Voice of Lebanon  .  

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Right .. has anyone seen an actual PLAN of electrical distribution and creation for the WHOLE country? Something which represents the technical methods? An actual ‘plan’? Routes for wiring? Or … even wire?
      Oh … yes … we saw ONE POLE !!

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Yeah one pole and they tried to remove it. Go figure … Are you at the beach yet?

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Unfortunately no … but it’s a happy thought for later 🙂  Hope your day is going well.

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        more so, he does not want any body or anyone monitoring his expenditure… el 3ama, he is not ashamed el 7aqeer.

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You people!!!  Why don’t you let Bassil steal 3a rawaa2?

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        In the North of Lebanon a Uni is going to be built in 1 year who are they getting to build it a european country. WHY? well when a company in Lebanon do a contract they will sub contract a job so many times that you end up paying 500% more for the job.
        This is how it works, I get the contract, I sub contract the job out then so on and so on, so 10 people make money and they don,t even have to lift a finger. The Lebanese are good business people outside Lebanon but in Lebanon they sell thier mother .

        How about getting companies to tender the job ,with them showing all cost, planning and time frame that would be simple yes.
        These guys are saying give me the money, thats it, you don’t need to stress about how I’m going to steal IT.   Funny yes well this is the story of Lebanon for 35 years. 
             

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Yah … try getting a ‘non-verbal’ bill from a hospital … 🙁

    3. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You people!!!  Why don’t you let Bassil steal 3a rawaa2?

  3. libnan1 Avatar
    libnan1

    “March 14 MP Ghazi Youssef said on Tuesday that his Furure Movement bloc’s MPs have doubts about Energy Minister Gebran Bassil.” You had 20 years to implement the same plan Basil is trying to implement. I’m not saying that Basil is an angle but he’s trying to do M14 work. He is just happened to be related to our fearless leader.

    1. Mazen_M Avatar
      Mazen_M

      He is your f***n fearless leader, not mine!! Just because you worship him doesn’t mean we have to do the same, so don’t say “our” because you don’t speak for us!! I tried to reason with you and you pretend that you are fair but all you are is a robot and a sheep to that f***n Aoun, so I hope he dies soon so that you will cry everyday you asshole….F U..

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Oh … Mazen … tsk. !!

        1. Mazen_M Avatar
          Mazen_M

          Why do you say that? I try to reason with people and try to help my Lebanese fellows to see the good in the other side and have an open mind but it doesn’t work!!. The only time that I curse is only when I’m in Lebanon or speaking to a Lebanese person because some of them are sooo freakin blind!! They worship those political idiot leaders!! I don’t get it. This is why we have problems in Lebanon. I’m 100% sure…..

        2. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Mazen, The  problem is that  everyone  in  Lebanon  is 100% sure of  what  they  say,and that makes it hard  to  discuss any topic.
           I  also agree with  you about the  worshiping   phenomena, But there is no  reason  to  curse the man, libnan1 is a good  guy  after all.

        3. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          greetings  5th my night hawk friend that never sleeps lol , somehow i am allways the meat in the sandwich lol even my brothers have been going at it  for years and all i can do is keep a wistle and a  first aid kit on hand .lol  even  rodney king  is asking .. can we get along?

        4. Mazen_M Avatar
          Mazen_M

          Hey, you know that Mazen is a male name right? And at least from my name you can tell I’m a male, but yet libnan1 doesn’t use his name (so you can’t tell if he is male or female), and then comments above “ohhh that might be the case” when replying to you!!. What an idiot…now I know there is no point talking to him.

        5. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Ok Mazen (below) … I was wrong 😉 … but does anyone use a real name ??  I mean, is that safe? 🙂
          Especially in a place everyone tries to peg everyone down to a specific hill ? 🙂
          Besides, when Geo said he loved you, I thought he might know something …. hehehe

          OOoops .. did I hear a whistle?  Bye.  🙂

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Oh … Mazen … tsk. !!

      3. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        YES he is my F*****************************************N leader and the leader of many people like me that love Lebanon. So deal with it punk. He happen to be the only leader that fucked you hard and still doing it, your ahole is soar from him doing you. I don’t worship him, I just happen to think is a great man for Lebanon. The Lebanon you and people like you including your leader worked hard to destroy. You don’t even understand the meaning of the word reasoning. Reasoning does not mean I have to agree with your point of view or is it?
        As far as you and some other people f**king me, the only thing you can F**k is yourself you faggot piece of shit. So go FU yourself. Is this the kind of response you like?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Oh … libnan .. tsk !!

        2. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          libnan1 habib albi, did you lose your file those edges are getting rough again… you guys are making leo look like an angel with a big chrome halo.lol

        3. Mazen_M Avatar
          Mazen_M

          Wow what a stupid response:) “He happen to be the only leader that fucked you hard and still doing it, your ahole is soar from him doing you”. What the hell are you talking about? “The Lebanon you and people like you including your leader worked hard to destroy”. How did I work hard to destroy my country?. It doesn’t make sense. Plus you are attacking my people the Druze and you say your best friend is Druze? Wow what a liar!!.
          No, reasoning is not that you have to agree with me but debate like a human being. Make some points instead of just throwing out garbage like “our fearless leader” and “just follow Aoun”, and “he does everything right in his life” among other stupid things.
          Anyway, it was my mistake to lower my standards to a person of your quality. I am a respected Dr. doing Cancer Research and should not get involved with this street talk that you wrote me. You used a lot of dirty words, but I’m not surprised.
          By the way, I still will never believe that any politician in Lebanon is good for Lebanon and I hope they All go to hell….

        4. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Cappuccino Mazen? … I know a good little shop for it. 🙂  Seems libnan1 had too many … but then, some can’t. 😉

        5. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          Mazen_M, if you consider yourself a respected person you would have not used that kind of language. I guaranty you Aoun would not approve of my response, even though I don’t think it was appropriate but I needed to put you in your place.
          I never insulted the Druse, I’ve insulted the criminals no matter what sect they belonged to. Yes my best friend is a Druse from the Ain Anoub if you know where it is and I tell him the same thing I tell you and everyone else. So Dr. M, I think it will more appropriate to use civilized language when debating issues even if we don’t agree with each other.  

        6. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Just wondering libnan1 if you can walk into that ‘Ain Anoub’ freely and visit your friend anytime you wish … like you can drive  anywhere you wish in the country and visit people you might know, or go to see historical sites freely. Maybe take a picture of an electrical pole. That sort of civilized thing… 
          Just a question.

        7. Mazen_M Avatar
          Mazen_M

          You want to put me in my place? Please:) You think that dirty language put me in my place. I could have responded with the same words but I won’t stoop to that level anyway. You are right that I should not have cursed (and this is my first time as opposed to your many times) but you used very filthy words that I will never use. That’s the difference, and that’s why I said respected (I’m human after all and might sometimes curse but never filthy words like you used).

          Plus what debating do you want to do?. You don’t make any good points!!. All you do is praise Aoun!!. If you want to put me in my place, then make good points about him, not just throw stupid praises….

        8. geo metro Avatar
          geo metro

          mazen, i love you and libnan1 (in a non faggot way) lol no matter what you guys allways make me proud at the end of every round.lol

      4. geo metro Avatar
        geo metro

        mazen, i believe you and respect you for your effort in reaching out to others and looking for the good in them. on several  occasions i have seen your good side and libnan1 good  side . the problem is we all get set off by trigger words and feel a need to respond accordingly. libnan1  favourite sport is trying to get a reaction out of anyone he can  wether by means of poams or other means  your reaction is his crack cocaine , besides that i agree with prophet he is a good guy   that loves lebanon but thinks it is spelled   lebanaoun lol.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Ohhh … nice one, geo 😉 ‘Tsk’ on us too. 🙂

        2. Mazen_M Avatar
          Mazen_M

          Yes you are right Geo, I should not have cursed but I got frustrated because I tried before to make my point without getting angry, but this guy libnan1 keeps making the most stupid comments I’ve ever seen in my life:) But Prophet hit it right on: “The problem is that everyone in Lebanon is 100% sure of what they say,and that makes it hard to discuss any topic”. I saw this in Lebanon this summer too, and for this reason I will try to stop commenting on this site, or at least stop replying to people that make stupid comments, just for the sake of saying something (without any good points).

          Anyway, thanks for your kind comment and take care…..

      5. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        M man, I always reciprocate accordingly. Go back and read all my comments, the only time I used the F word is when replying to filthy language like the one you used. Go read your original comment.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Man? I thought Mazen was a cute lady … hmmm … sometimes I’m wrong …

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Man? I thought Mazen was a cute lady … hmmm … sometimes I’m wrong …

        3. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          5th, Ohhh that might be the case.

        4. Mazen_M Avatar
          Mazen_M

          Filthy language? I used a couple of F words talking about Aoun and directed one to you. You are the one with the filthy language that I can’t even repeat here. So why don’t you go and read your comment that you said even your God Aoun will not approve of….

      6. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        yes i hope Aoun and all the hezbollah slaves die of natural disaster like Earthquake or drowing in hot tubs lol.

        1. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          Nagy, Aoun and HA throw a hot tub party every Sat. night. They swap bathing suits if you like to join them. The place is the Saraya.

    2. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      ya blind….. i have said it before and i am repeating it now, before you repeat your worthless accusation just enquire or search or do whatever to find out who was handling the electricity in lebanon….you will find that pple who are your allies now.

      do something you are not used to do….go do simple research man!

      be7kiha bil chinese so you can understand?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Never mind the past, people … it’s the heart of all the problems.
          But Wannous HAS a good point. And we are supposed to be thinking ‘future’ … no? 
        If no-one – AT LEAST IN ALL THE GOVERNMENT – can see the OVERVIEW plans laid out in front of them, and there seems to have been no technical papers passed around or even discussed on the viability of various types of electrical installations possible, from reliable engineers, and a good mapping of efficient distribution methods, then how can ANY SANE PERSON simply agree to send 1.2 bil or 5 bil over 5 years or even 1LLb. INTO THE VOID, and still claim to be representing the ‘tax-paying serfs’ who would like to see some value for their money – somewhere – as well as some light at night. ?? Better to stick with the candles we think – at least they don’t cost as much – and actually work.

        And see master09 below too …
        (later) who, it seems, likes uppers and downers at the same time. 🙂

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Love a Cappuccino but with something very strong like johnny blue, enjoy.  

      2. master09 Avatar
        master09

        5th Drawer
        I don’t understand this site I put very constructive comments and never insult anyone and as soon as I write facts about Isreal and Palestinian situation they remove it. Than you get people swearing and swearing with F’S AND C’S AND SO ON AND they get thier comments left on this site  

        They clearly state at top of page…………..Please respect the community. Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

        I am sure this site is like all the TV channels and papers in Lebanon, they are owned by MP’S and only talk about what they want.
        Freedom of speech…….. what.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Master09 – I see it too … but what can one do? Just keep trying, I suppose – although I hate repeating myself. 🙂
            It’s no-where near as bad as some of the things that float by on, for example, You-Tube … which seems to be filled with a pack of 13-yr-old animals – although that site ‘posts’ virtually anything including outright stupidity, and true propaganda, which deserves what is said sometimes too. One, however, doesn’t need ‘bad’ language to get a point across …  People all have their own experiences, and react too passionately sometimes, but here I think most try to put across a point of view in a rational manner. I have re-acted (perhaps badly) most often to what I see as outright stupidity in what is said, rather than to insults. My feeling is that no matter what is said against my comments or views, it’s only words on a fleeting page and the ignorant really can’t hurt me anyway – which is one reason we don’t use real names either, right? 😉
            To some extent I think it’s a form of self-therapy to even be here … hehe .. and a little insulting ‘shot’ once in a while makes us feel better at least … but over years of ‘roaming around’ on the net, and trying to interact in some way with a larger ‘human’ field of view – even in some (gasp) games on occasion – I have been surprised at how quickly people reveal their basic ‘character’ by how they respond to certain ‘stimulae’ – and pleasantly surprised to have also found a few close to my own – which may or may not be a good thing for the world at large, hahaha, but makes me happy. 🙂
            THIS SITE – dealing with a fairly specific place and subjects close to our hearts – can draw our passions for sure; yet I think most are trying to be rational, most have had good contributions to it, and I think Gassan can be pleased most of the time with those who post. I think we all learn.
            Actually, I found it a bit of a rarity with the genuine sincerity some have – searching for a way out of the mud-hole of Lebanese ‘politics’. I think some of ‘you folks’ should be published more widely too – there needs to be a lot more ‘educating’ of those stupid politicians we see – although I wouldn’t want anyone to be on the firing range. 😉
          So … carry on gang … even the occasional Leo can be overcome, it seems. 🙂
            (yah – bad 😉

          And that took a bit of work … I need a cappuccino … anyone who doesn’t agree with it can go piss up a rope.
          (Love that freedom)  :-))

      3. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        Antar, we all going to speak Chinese soon … I do appreciate your disagreement without using filthy language. Our camp are trying to finish the work of your camp, does that make you feel better? 

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Japanese is much softer and nicer to the ear.
           Camping is good experience too … but you need to be more careful about lighting the lanterns in tents than in your house … so I’ll pass on it.

        2. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          i repeat….you can read slowly this time so it will tick with you…

          the pple who handled the electricity for the last 20 yrs are not from ‘my camp’…they fall in ‘your camp”…

          anyway before 2005, there weren’t any “your camp” and “my camp’, there were ministers in “a” govt handling different issues and the issue of electricity was handled by ministers who are now in “your camp”.

        3. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          Antar, you are going too fast for me my man. Now tell me who handled the electricity before 2005? I might have not read that part of history. My book says Hariri’s were in power except for a year or two. I remember back in 86 when we left there was 22 hrs of power a day. The last time I went in 96 we had 8 hrs now it’s 4 hrs maybe. The trend looks bad. I like to hear your plan, what do you think Lebanon should do? Nothing is not acceptable.

        4. Fadi81 Avatar
          Fadi81

          “camp” now thats cute…legitimacy thru cute catch words and total oblivion to whats going on in the world around you is all M8 has going…Its a formation of terrorists#1, criminal crooks#2, traitors#3, liars#4, and COWARDS#5! This is what your “camp” represents…the Cedar revolution is not dead, nor are the people who stand firmly behind the belief of one country, one gov’t, one army! Anyone who stands in the way of this movement will be left crushed in the dirt beneath our feet. this I am sure of, all just a matter of time. As others have said “all Lebanese think they are 100% right all the time”, well guess what? we  dont “think” we’re right, we KNOW we’re right and that is the difference between us and those who “think”…and besides, thinking doesn’t suite some people I mean it just doesn’t look good on them….

        5. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          If someone keeps producing babies, there will NEVER be enough electricity. Not without some ‘future’ plan at least.
           And on top of that they wish to begin some polluting industries too? That will suck up the 4 hrs of lighting … but I’d guess someone has an interest in the battery business …
          … better at least for your camp tent than the lantern.

        6. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          5th,
           Maybe,  if  people  had  electricity ,They’d have  less  time  to  make  babies.lol

        7. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Prophet … with a light, she can see where to put the rubbers at least. 😉 Groping around for the wine is bad enough. 🙂

        8. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          5th,Most  3rd world countries can’t  afford  the  rubbers.lol
          Plus, they figure that if they  were  dealt a bad  luck in  life, they  won’t   have to settle  with non raw sex..Sex might  be  the only exercise  they  can  enjoy  without  having  to  pay  for it.

        9. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          Prophet, you might not have to pay for it directly but long term it costs lots of $$$. There is no free lunch even when you eat at the Y. I put a lock on my zipper and threw the key away.

        10. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          MMMmmmmmm … lunch ….
          Errr … geee libnan1 … hope that was before the count got too high 😉

        11. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          oh dear!

          3abass!

    3. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Plan? There was a plan? Anytime?? I thought it was just a ‘hook-in-and-see-if-it-works’ sort of thing. What’s the plan now?
        I did watch a ‘gang’ trying to replace blown-out wires on a street in Tripoli one day … took pictures in case I could post a body-impact moment after it fell off a street light, but I guess they become acrobats too … and was hoping the new wires were still ok when finally pulled into place, as the cars kept running over the 300 ft. of new wire laid out in some mystical pattern on the road. (Yah – people get upset if you actually block a road to fix something … might be a militia intervention and require horns and threats to get past.)
       But I assume the acrobats actually had a plan because the usual 4 hrs of AC was back the next day. 🙂 Maybe Bassil should consult them. What do you think?

      1. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        I think Basil can use all the help he can get. Everyone slams Basil without coming up with an alternative. They accuse him of being this and that, they may be correct, I hope he proves them wrong. I think people should give him a chance, I’m all for an oversight from parliament. I say to his critics ask for verification to all his functions and not just object. If he is not as promised, I will be the first to criticizer him. The electricity status quote is not acceptable. I know you don’t power at the beach but do you think this is fair? 

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Liban1
          No body is slamming Basil, I’m not anyway but my question is how can any MP or leader say give me $1.2 billion without a PLAN to show for it like, …….  if he goes out gets companies to put a plan with how and when it will be done and show the people the full costing. than maybe people will treat this with more respect.

          “The government demanded Bassil determine his conditions in order to execute the project, but the minister does not want to present his plan and wants to spend the funds the way he pleases,” Wannous added.

          This maybe cost only $500 mil but show this to the people, don’t just come up wiyh a figure with out backing it up.
          All he says is 700 megawatts.
          BY the way 1 megawat will power 1000 homes at the lowest outage eg at midday but at night when needed more that will drop to about 850 homes.

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Libnan1 – The beach powers me in more mystical ways than electrical current can. 😉
            Actually, I don’t think any of it is ‘fair’ – certainly not to the citizens. And it’s not a matter of ‘fair either. But yes, I’ll agree, we could give someone a fair chance. What I don’t understand is how anyone can pull a figure out of the air like 1.2 billion (dollars, not pounds) and say it’s to ‘impliment’ a plan in a ‘draft bill’ – a plan no-one seems to know. I think I could draw up a ‘plan’ in a weekend for much less money than that … and have it ‘debated’ for no cost by the cabinet which is already being paid to debate these things. There’s something a little weird in what is being tossed around in numbers when no-one seems to know what the plan actually is. And there’s no ‘Electrical Board’ or ‘Panel’ to even say what’s needed.
          Cabinet should debate:
          1. Do we want more electricity?  Debate … Assume ‘yes’.
            1a.  Agree to fund needed research?  Debate … Assume ‘yes’.
          2. Do we hire an independent ‘expert’ (company) to ascertain what’s needed and the best ways to supply it? Heavy Debate … Assume ‘yes’.
            2a.  Agree to allow that company to survey everywhere and have access to statistics to make their estimates more accurate – for ALL the country?  Heavy Debate Probably … but Assume ‘yes’.
          3. Electrical Board picks the ‘expert company’.
            Up to this point, there is no money spent … except on cabinet salaries for all the debates.
          I don’t think it will cost 1.2 billion to have the advice of the experts.
          After that comes in, with cost estimates, the funding can be debated, and the decisions made on who to hire to do the work, and at least there’s a ‘plan’ to work with for all these debaters.

          (below) I see master09 and I were thinking the same … and 700 mgw is what’s needed NOW … what about future?

    4. nagy_michael2 Avatar
      nagy_michael2

      the 20 years were under syrian control you dumb dumb

      1. libnan1 Avatar
        libnan1

        We tried to free you back in the eighties remember!!!! No you wanted to stay under occupation dumb dumb. 

  4. Avatar
    Anonymous

    “March 14 MP Ghazi Youssef said on Tuesday that his Furure Movement bloc’s MPs have doubts about Energy Minister Gebran Bassil.” You had 20 years to implement the same plan Basil is trying to implement. I’m not saying that Basil is an angle but he’s trying to do M14 work. He is just happened to be related to our fearless leader.

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      Anonymous

      He is your f***n fearless leader, not mine!! Just because you worship him doesn’t mean we have to do the same, so don’t say “our” because you don’t speak for us!! I tried to reason with you and you pretend that you are fair but all you are is a robot and a sheep to that f***n Aoun, so I hope he dies soon so that you will cry everyday you asshole….F U..

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        Anonymous

        Oh … Mazen … tsk. !!

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          Anonymous

          Why do you say that? I try to reason with people and try to help my Lebanese fellows to see the good in the other side and have an open mind but it doesn’t work!!. The only time that I curse is only when I’m in Lebanon or speaking to a Lebanese person because some of them are sooo freakin blind!! They worship those political idiot leaders!! I don’t get it. This is why we have problems in Lebanon. I’m 100% sure…..

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          PROPHET.T

          Mazen, The  problem is that  everyone  in  Lebanon  is 100% sure of  what  they  say,and that makes it hard  to  discuss any topic.
           I  also agree with  you about the  worshiping   phenomena, But there is no  reason  to  curse the man, libnan1 is a good  guy  after all.

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          geo metro

          greetings  5th my night hawk friend that never sleeps lol , somehow i am allways the meat in the sandwich lol even my brothers have been going at it  for years and all i can do is keep a wistle and a  first aid kit on hand .lol  even  rodney king  is asking .. can we get along?

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          geo metro

          greetings  5th my night hawk friend that never sleeps lol , somehow i am allways the meat in the sandwich lol even my brothers have been going at it  for years and all i can do is keep a wistle and a  first aid kit on hand .lol  even  rodney king  is asking .. can we get along?

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          Anonymous

          Hey, you know that Mazen is a male name right? And at least from my name you can tell I’m a male, but yet libnan1 doesn’t use his name (so you can’t tell if he is male or female), and then comments above “ohhh that might be the case” when replying to you!!. What an idiot…now I know there is no point talking to him.

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          Anonymous

          Ok Mazen (below) … I was wrong 😉 … but does anyone use a real name ??  I mean, is that safe? 🙂
          Especially in a place everyone tries to peg everyone down to a specific hill ? 🙂
          Besides, when Geo said he loved you, I thought he might know something …. hehehe

          OOoops .. did I hear a whistle?  Bye.  🙂

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        Anonymous

        YES he is my F*****************************************N leader and the leader of many people like me that love Lebanon. So deal with it punk. He happen to be the only leader that fucked you hard and still doing it, your ahole is soar from him doing you. I don’t worship him, I just happen to think is a great man for Lebanon. The Lebanon you and people like you including your leader worked hard to destroy. You don’t even understand the meaning of the word reasoning. Reasoning does not mean I have to agree with your point of view or is it?
        As far as you and some other people f**king me, the only thing you can F**k is yourself you faggot piece of shit. So go FU yourself. Is this the kind of response you like?

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          Anonymous

          Oh … libnan .. tsk !!

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          geo metro

          libnan1 habib albi, did you lose your file those edges are getting rough again… you guys are making leo look like an angel with a big chrome halo.lol

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          geo metro

          libnan1 habib albi, did you lose your file those edges are getting rough again… you guys are making leo look like an angel with a big chrome halo.lol

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          Anonymous

          Wow what a stupid response:) “He happen to be the only leader that fucked you hard and still doing it, your ahole is soar from him doing you”. What the hell are you talking about? “The Lebanon you and people like you including your leader worked hard to destroy”. How did I work hard to destroy my country?. It doesn’t make sense. Plus you are attacking my people the Druze and you say your best friend is Druze? Wow what a liar!!.
          No, reasoning is not that you have to agree with me but debate like a human being. Make some points instead of just throwing out garbage like “our fearless leader” and “just follow Aoun”, and “he does everything right in his life” among other stupid things.
          Anyway, it was my mistake to lower my standards to a person of your quality. I am a respected Dr. doing Cancer Research and should not get involved with this street talk that you wrote me. You used a lot of dirty words, but I’m not surprised.
          By the way, I still will never believe that any politician in Lebanon is good for Lebanon and I hope they All go to hell….

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          Anonymous

          Cappuccino Mazen? … I know a good little shop for it. 🙂  Seems libnan1 had too many … but then, some can’t. 😉

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          Anonymous

          Cappuccino Mazen? … I know a good little shop for it. 🙂  Seems libnan1 had too many … but then, some can’t. 😉

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          Anonymous

          Cappuccino Mazen? … I know a good little shop for it. 🙂  Seems libnan1 had too many … but then, some can’t. 😉

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          Anonymous

          Mazen_M, if you consider yourself a respected person you would have not used that kind of language. I guaranty you Aoun would not approve of my response, even though I don’t think it was appropriate but I needed to put you in your place.
          I never insulted the Druse, I’ve insulted the criminals no matter what sect they belonged to. Yes my best friend is a Druse from the Ain Anoub if you know where it is and I tell him the same thing I tell you and everyone else. So Dr. M, I think it will more appropriate to use civilized language when debating issues even if we don’t agree with each other.  

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          Anonymous

          Just wondering libnan1 if you can walk into that ‘Ain Anoub’ freely and visit your friend anytime you wish … like you can drive  anywhere you wish in the country and visit people you might know, or go to see historical sites freely. Maybe take a picture of an electrical pole. That sort of civilized thing… 
          Just a question.

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          Anonymous

          You want to put me in my place? Please:) You think that dirty language put me in my place. I could have responded with the same words but I won’t stoop to that level anyway. You are right that I should not have cursed (and this is my first time as opposed to your many times) but you used very filthy words that I will never use. That’s the difference, and that’s why I said respected (I’m human after all and might sometimes curse but never filthy words like you used).

          Plus what debating do you want to do?. You don’t make any good points!!. All you do is praise Aoun!!. If you want to put me in my place, then make good points about him, not just throw stupid praises….

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          Anonymous

          You want to put me in my place? Please:) You think that dirty language put me in my place. I could have responded with the same words but I won’t stoop to that level anyway. You are right that I should not have cursed (and this is my first time as opposed to your many times) but you used very filthy words that I will never use. That’s the difference, and that’s why I said respected (I’m human after all and might sometimes curse but never filthy words like you used).

          Plus what debating do you want to do?. You don’t make any good points!!. All you do is praise Aoun!!. If you want to put me in my place, then make good points about him, not just throw stupid praises….

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          geo metro

          mazen, i love you and libnan1 (in a non faggot way) lol no matter what you guys allways make me proud at the end of every round.lol

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          geo metro

          mazen, i love you and libnan1 (in a non faggot way) lol no matter what you guys allways make me proud at the end of every round.lol

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          geo metro

          mazen, i love you and libnan1 (in a non faggot way) lol no matter what you guys allways make me proud at the end of every round.lol

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        geo metro

        mazen, i believe you and respect you for your effort in reaching out to others and looking for the good in them. on several  occasions i have seen your good side and libnan1 good  side . the problem is we all get set off by trigger words and feel a need to respond accordingly. libnan1  favourite sport is trying to get a reaction out of anyone he can  wether by means of poams or other means  your reaction is his crack cocaine , besides that i agree with prophet he is a good guy   that loves lebanon but thinks it is spelled   lebanaoun lol.

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          Anonymous

          Ohhh … nice one, geo 😉 ‘Tsk’ on us too. 🙂

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          Anonymous

          Yes you are right Geo, I should not have cursed but I got frustrated because I tried before to make my point without getting angry, but this guy libnan1 keeps making the most stupid comments I’ve ever seen in my life:) But Prophet hit it right on: “The problem is that everyone in Lebanon is 100% sure of what they say,and that makes it hard to discuss any topic”. I saw this in Lebanon this summer too, and for this reason I will try to stop commenting on this site, or at least stop replying to people that make stupid comments, just for the sake of saying something (without any good points).

          Anyway, thanks for your kind comment and take care…..

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        Anonymous

        M man, I always reciprocate accordingly. Go back and read all my comments, the only time I used the F word is when replying to filthy language like the one you used. Go read your original comment.

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          Anonymous

          Man? I thought Mazen was a cute lady … hmmm … sometimes I’m wrong …

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          Anonymous

          Man? I thought Mazen was a cute lady … hmmm … sometimes I’m wrong …

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          Anonymous

          Man? I thought Mazen was a cute lady … hmmm … sometimes I’m wrong …

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          Anonymous

          5th, Ohhh that might be the case.

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          Anonymous

          Filthy language? I used a couple of F words talking about Aoun and directed one to you. You are the one with the filthy language that I can’t even repeat here. So why don’t you go and read your comment that you said even your God Aoun will not approve of….

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        Anonymous

        yes i hope Aoun and all the hezbollah slaves die of natural disaster like Earthquake or drowing in hot tubs lol.

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          Anonymous

          Nagy, Aoun and HA through a hot tub party every Sat. night. They swap bathing suits if you like to join them. The place is the Saraya.

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      Anonymous

      ya blind….. i have said it before and i am repeating it now, before you repeat your worthless accusation just enquire or search or do whatever to find out who was handling the electricity in lebanon….you will find that pple who are your allies now.

      be7kiha bil chinese so you can understand?

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        Anonymous

        Never mind the past, people … it’s the heart of all the problems.
          But Wannous HAS a good point. And we are supposed to be thinking ‘future’ … no? 
        If no-one – AT LEAST IN ALL THE GOVERNMENT – can see the OVERVIEW plans laid out in front of them, and there seems to have been no technical papers passed around or even discussed on the viability of various types of electrical installations possible, from reliable engineers, and a good mapping of efficient distribution methods, then how can ANY SANE PERSON simply agree to send 1.2 mil or 5 mil over 5 years or even 1LLb. INTO THE VOID, and still claim to be representing the ‘tax-paying serfs’ who would like to see some value for their money – somewhere – as well as some light at night. ?? Better to stick with the candles we think – at least they don’t cost as much – and actually work.

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          Anonymous

          Love a Cappuccino but with something very strong like johnny blue, enjoy.  

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        Anonymous

        5th Drawer
        I don’t understand this site I put very constructive comments and never insult anyone and as soon as I write facts about Isreal and Palestinian situation they remove it. Than you get people swearing and swearing with F’S AND C’S AND SO ON AND they get thier comments left on this site  

        They clearly state at top of page…………..Please respect the community. Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

        I am sure this site is like all the TV channels and papers in Lebanon, they are owned by MP’S and only talk about what they want.
        Freedom of speech…….. what.

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          Anonymous

          Master09 – I see it too … but what can one do? Just keep trying, I suppose – although I hate repeating myself. 🙂
            It’s no-where near as bad as some of the things that float by on, for example, You-Tube … which seems to be filled with a pack of 13-yr-old animals – although that site ‘posts’ virtually anything including outright stupidity, and true propaganda, which deserves what is said sometimes too. One, however, doesn’t need ‘bad’ language to get a point across …  People all have their own experiences, and react too passionately sometimes, but here I think most try to put across a point of view in a rational manner. I have re-acted (perhaps badly) most often to what I see as outright stupidity in what is said, than to insults. My feeling is that no matter what is said against my comments or views, it’s only words on a fleeting page and the ignorant really can’t hurt me anyway – which is one reason we don’t use real names either, right? 😉
            To some extent I think it’s a form of self-therapy to even be here … hehe .. and a little insulting ‘shot’ once in a while makes us feel better at least … but over years of ‘roaming around’ on the net, and trying to interact in some way with a larger ‘human’ field of view – even in some (gasp) games on occasion – I have been surprised at how quickly people reveal their basic ‘character’ by how they respond to certain ‘stimulae’ – and pleasantly surprised to have also found a few close to my own – which may or may not be a good thing for the world at large, hahaha, but makes me happy. 🙂
            THIS SITE – dealing with a fairly specific place and subjects close to our hearts – can draw our passions for sure; yet I think most are trying to be rational, most have had good contributions to it, and I think Gassan can be pleased most of the time with those who post. I think we all learn.
            Actually, I found it a bit of a rarity with the genuine sincerity some have – searching for a way out of the mud-hole of Lebanese ‘politics’. I think some of ‘you folks’ should be published more widely too – there needs to be a lot more ‘educating’ of those stupid politicians we see – although I wouldn’t want anyone to be on the firing range. 😉
          So … carry on gang … even the occasional Leo can be overcome, it seems. 🙂
            (yah – bad 😉

          And that took a bit of work … I need a cappuccino … anyone who doesn’t agree with it can go piss up a rope.
          (Love that freedom)  :-))

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          Anonymous

          Master09 – I see it too … but what can one do? Just keep trying, I suppose – although I hate repeating myself. 🙂
            It’s no-where near as bad as some of the things that float by on, for example, You-Tube … which seems to be filled with a pack of 13-yr-old animals – although that site ‘posts’ virtually anything including outright stupidity, and true propaganda, which deserves what is said sometimes too. One, however, doesn’t need ‘bad’ language to get a point across …  People all have their own experiences, and react too passionately sometimes, but here I think most try to put across a point of view in a rational manner. I have re-acted (perhaps badly) most often to what I see as outright stupidity in what is said, than to insults. My feeling is that no matter what is said against my comments or views, it’s only words on a fleeting page and the ignorant really can’t hurt me anyway – which is one reason we don’t use real names either, right? 😉
            To some extent I think it’s a form of self-therapy to even be here … hehe .. and a little insulting ‘shot’ once in a while makes us feel better at least … but over years of ‘roaming around’ on the net, and trying to interact in some way with a larger ‘human’ field of view – even in some (gasp) games on occasion – I have been surprised at how quickly people reveal their basic ‘character’ by how they respond to certain ‘stimulae’ – and pleasantly surprised to have also found a few close to my own – which may or may not be a good thing for the world at large, hahaha, but makes me happy. 🙂
            THIS SITE – dealing with a fairly specific place and subjects close to our hearts – can draw our passions for sure; yet I think most are trying to be rational, most have had good contributions to it, and I think Gassan can be pleased most of the time with those who post. I think we all learn.
            Actually, I found it a bit of a rarity with the genuine sincerity some have – searching for a way out of the mud-hole of Lebanese ‘politics’. I think some of ‘you folks’ should be published more widely too – there needs to be a lot more ‘educating’ of those stupid politicians we see – although I wouldn’t want anyone to be on the firing range. 😉
          So … carry on gang … even the occasional Leo can be overcome, it seems. 🙂
            (yah – bad 😉

          And that took a bit of work … I need a cappuccino … anyone who doesn’t agree with it can go piss up a rope.
          (Love that freedom)  :-))

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          Anonymous

          Master09 – I see it too … but what can one do? Just keep trying, I suppose – although I hate repeating myself. 🙂
            It’s no-where near as bad as some of the things that float by on, for example, You-Tube … which seems to be filled with a pack of 13-yr-old animals – although that site ‘posts’ virtually anything including outright stupidity, and true propaganda, which deserves what is said sometimes too. One, however, doesn’t need ‘bad’ language to get a point across …  People all have their own experiences, and react too passionately sometimes, but here I think most try to put across a point of view in a rational manner. I have re-acted (perhaps badly) most often to what I see as outright stupidity in what is said, than to insults. My feeling is that no matter what is said against my comments or views, it’s only words on a fleeting page and the ignorant really can’t hurt me anyway – which is one reason we don’t use real names either, right? 😉
            To some extent I think it’s a form of self-therapy to even be here … hehe .. and a little insulting ‘shot’ once in a while makes us feel better at least … but over years of ‘roaming around’ on the net, and trying to interact in some way with a larger ‘human’ field of view – even in some (gasp) games on occasion – I have been surprised at how quickly people reveal their basic ‘character’ by how they respond to certain ‘stimulae’ – and pleasantly surprised to have also found a few close to my own – which may or may not be a good thing for the world at large, hahaha, but makes me happy. 🙂
            THIS SITE – dealing with a fairly specific place and subjects close to our hearts – can draw our passions for sure; yet I think most are trying to be rational, most have had good contributions to it, and I think Gassan can be pleased most of the time with those who post. I think we all learn.
            Actually, I found it a bit of a rarity with the genuine sincerity some have – searching for a way out of the mud-hole of Lebanese ‘politics’. I think some of ‘you folks’ should be published more widely too – there needs to be a lot more ‘educating’ of those stupid politicians we see – although I wouldn’t want anyone to be on the firing range. 😉
          So … carry on gang … even the occasional Leo can be overcome, it seems. 🙂
            (yah – bad 😉

          And that took a bit of work … I need a cappuccino … anyone who doesn’t agree with it can go piss up a rope.
          (Love that freedom)  :-))

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        Anonymous

        Antar, we all going to speak Chinese soon … I do appreciate your disagreement without using filthy language. Our camp are trying to finish the work of your camp, does that make you feel better? 

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          Anonymous

          Japanese is much softer and nicer to the ear.
           Camping is good experience too … but you need to be more careful about lighting the lanterns in tents than in your house … so I’ll pass on it.

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          Anonymous

          i repeat….you can read slowly this time so it will tick with you…

          the pple who handled the electricity for the last 20 yrs are not from ‘my camp’…they fall in ‘your camp”…

          anyway before 2005, there weren’t any “your camp” and “my camp’, there were ministers in “a” govt handling different issues and the issue of electricity was handled by ministers who are now in “your camp”.

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          Anonymous

          Antar, you are going too fast for me my man. Now tell me who handled the electricity before 2005? I might have not read that part of history. My book says Hariri’s were in power except for a year or two. I remember back in 86 when we left there was 22 hrs of power a day. The last time I went in 96 we had 8 hrs now it’s 4 hrs maybe. The trend looks bad. I like to hear your plan, what do you think Lebanon should do? Nothing is not acceptable.

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          Anonymous

          “camp” now thats cute…legitimacy thru cute catch words and total oblivion to whats going on in the world around you is all M8 has going…Its a formation of terrorists#1, criminal crooks#2, traitors#3, liars#4, and COWARDS#5! This is what your “camp” represents…the Cedar revolution is not dead, nor are the people who stand firmly behind the belief of one country, one gov’t, one army! Anyone who stands in the way of this movement will be left crushed in the dirt beneath our feet. this I am sure of, all just a matter of time. As others have said “all Lebanese think they are 100% right all the time”, well guess what? we  dont “think” we’re right, we KNOW we’re right and that is the difference between us and those who “think”…and besides, thinking doesn’t suite some people I mean it just doesn’t look good on them….

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          Anonymous

          If someone keeps producing babies, there will NEVER be enough electricity. Not without some ‘future’ plan at least.
           And on top of that they wish to begin some polluting industries too? That will suck up the 4 hrs of lighting … but I’d guess someone has an interest in the battery business …
          … better at least for your camp tent than the lantern.

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          PROPHET.T

          5th,
           Maybe,  if  people  had  electricity ,They’d have  less  time  to  make  babies.lol

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          Anonymous

          Prophet … with a light, she can where to put the rubbers at least. 😉 Groping around for the wine is bad enough. 🙂

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          PROPHET.T

          5th,Most  3rd world countries can’t  afford  the  rubbers.lol
          Plus, they figure that if they  were  dealt a bad  luck in  life, they  won’t   have to settle  with non raw sex..Sex might  be  the only exercise  they  can  enjoy  without  having  to  pay  for it.

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          Anonymous

          Prophet, you might not have to pay for it directly but long term it costs lots of $$$. There is no free lunch even when you eat at the Y. I put a lock on my zipper and threw the key away.

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          Anonymous

          Prophet, you might not have to pay for it directly but long term it costs lots of $$$. There is no free lunch even when you eat at the Y. I put a lock on my zipper and threw the key away.

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          Anonymous

          MMMmmmmmm … lunch ….
          Errr … geee libnan1 … hope that was before the count got too high 😉

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          Anonymous

          MMMmmmmmm … lunch ….
          Errr … geee libnan1 … hope that was before the count got too high 😉

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          Anonymous

          oh dear!

          3abass!

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      Anonymous

      Plan? There was a plan? Anytime?? I thought it was just a ‘hook-in-and-see-if-it-works’ sort of thing. What’s the plan now?
        I did watch a ‘gang’ trying to replace blown-out wires on a street in Tripoli one day … took pictures in case I could post a body-impact moment after it fell off a street light, but I guess they become acrobats too … and was hoping the new wires were still ok when finally pulled into place, as the cars kept running over the 300 ft. of new wire laid out in some mystical pattern on the road. (Yah – people get upset if you actually block a road to fix something … might be a militia intervention and require horns and threats to get past.)
       But I assume the acrobats actually had a plan because the usual 4 hrs of AC was back the next day. 🙂 Maybe Bassil should consult them. What do you think?

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        Anonymous

        I think Basil can use all the help he can get. Everyone slams Basil without coming up with an alternative. They accuse him of being this and that, they may be correct, I hope he proves them wrong. I think people should give him a chance, I’m all for an oversight from parliament. I say to his critics ask for verification to all his functions and not just object. If he is not as promised, I will be the first to criticizer him. The electricity status quote is not acceptable. I know you don’t power at the beach but do you think this is fair? 

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          Anonymous

          Liban1
          No body is slamming Basil, I’m not anyway but my question is how can any MP or leader say give me $1.2 billion without a PLAN to show for it like, …….  if he goes out gets companies to put a plan with how and when it will be done and show the people the full costings than maybe people will treat this with more respect. This maybe cost only $500 mil but show this to the people, don’t just come up wiyh a figure with out backing it up. All he says is 700 megawatts.          

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          Anonymous

          Libnan1 – The beach powers me in more mystical ways than electrical current can. 😉
            Actually, I don’t think any of it is ‘fair’ – certainly not to the citizens. And it’s not a matter of ‘fair either. But yes, I’ll agree, we could give someone a fair chance. What I don’t understand is how anyone can pull a figure out of the air like 1.2 billion (dollars, not pounds) and say it’s to ‘impliment’ a plan in a ‘draft bill’ – a plan no-one seems to know. I think I could draw up a ‘plan’ in a weekend for much less money than that … and have it ‘debated’ for no cost by the cabinet which is already being paid to debate these things. There’s something a little weird in what is being tossed around in numbers when no-one seems to know what the plan actually is. And there’s no ‘Electrical Board’ or ‘Panel’ to even say what’s needed.
          Cabinet should debate:
          1. Do we want more electricity?  Debate … Assume ‘yes’.
            1a.  Agree to fund needed research?  Debate … Assume ‘yes’.
          2. Do we hire an independent ‘expert’ (company) to ascertain what’s needed and the best ways to supply it? Heavy Debate … Assume ‘yes’.
            2a.  Agree to allow that company to survey everywhere and have access to statistics to make their estimates more accurate – for ALL the country?  Heavy Debate Probably … but Assume ‘yes’.
          3. Electrical Board picks the ‘expert company’.
            Up to this point, there is no money spent … except on cabinet salaries for all the debates.
          I don’t think it will cost 1.2 billion to have the advice of the experts.
          After that comes in, with cost estimates, the funding can be debated, and the decisions made on who to hire to do the work, and at least there’s a ‘plan’ to work with for all these debaters.

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      Anonymous

      the 20 years were under syrian control you dumb dumb

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        Anonymous

        We tried to free you back in the eighties remember!!!! No you wanted to stay under occupation dumb dumb. 

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    libnan1

    master09 and 5th, One Mega Watt hour of electricity produced is enough electricity to supply power to approximately 750 US homes. A typical US home consumes 3 – 5 times the power a typical Lebanese home.
    A meg watt = one million watts. An average home in Lebanon uses 2500 – 3000 watts, it might be slightly higher in the summer. So do the math, according to my conservative calculations 700 meg watts will power 1470000 Lebanese homes. Add that to about 300 meg watt produced today, it will be sufficient assuming minimal electricity theft. And in order to reduce the cost of generating electricity installing solar power panels on each poll reduces the voltage at that node which translate to about 10% saving in the fuel needed to generate 700 meg watts.

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      5thDrawer

      True – light bulbs don’t use much. (0.5w approx.) And even then people get only 4 hrs/day a lot of the time. The country makes only 700 mw now. (The point is about the USA, I guess, if you build it, they will turn it on. 🙂
      Leb homes – with no electric most of the time – do not have electric stoves, or AC, or even refridgerators in them. Freezers? Ha!  People run for propane-gas bottles every day for cooking AND boiling their water to make it safe … some have been blown up by them.
      MOST businesses have generators on the side – making a HUGE difference in cost of power and therefore food-storage costs as well – not counting hotel rooms, etc. (The staff don’t make much.)
      I don’t think that only doubling the available amount will bring Lebanon out of the 1890’s it backed into.

      Amazing … people on here know more about the subject than those idiots running the place. Anyone want to start up a consulting company? 🙂

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    Anonymous

    master09 and 5th, One Mega Watt hour of electricity produced is
    enough electricity to supply power to approximately 750
    US homes. A typical US home consumes 3 – 5 times the power a typical Lebanese home.
    A meg watt = one million watts. An average home in Lebanon uses 2500 – 3000 watts, it might be slightly higher in the summer. So do the math, according to my conservative calculations 700 meg watts will power 1470000 Lebanese homes. Add that to about 300 meg watt produced today, it will be sufficient assuming minimal electricity theft. And in order to reduce the cost of generating electricity installing solar power panels on each poll reduces the voltage at that node which translate to about 10% saving in the fuel needed to generate 700 meg watts.

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      True – light bulbs don’t use much. (0.5w approx.) And even then people get only 4 hrs/day a lot of the time. The country makes only 700 mw now. (The point is about the USA, I guess, if you build it, they will turn it on. 🙂
      Leb homes – with no electric most of the time – do not have electric stoves, or AC, or even refridgerators in them. Freezers? Ha!  People run for propane-gas bottles every day for cooking AND boiling their water to make it safe … some have been blown up by them.
      MOST businesses have generators on the side – making a HUGE difference in cost of power and therefore food-storage costs as well – not counting hotel rooms, etc. (The staff don’t make much.)
      I don’t think that only doubling the available amount will bring Lebanon out of the 1890’s it backed into.

      Amazing … people on here know more about the subject than those idiots running the place. Anyone want to start up a consulting company? 🙂

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      True – light bulbs don’t use much. (0.5w approx.) And even then people get only 4 hrs/day a lot of the time. The country makes only 700 mw now. (The point is about the USA, I guess, if you build it, they will turn it on. 🙂
      Leb homes – with no electric most of the time – do not have electric stoves, or AC, or even refridgerators in them. Freezers? Ha!  People run for propane-gas bottles every day for cooking AND boiling their water to make it safe … some have been blown up by them.
      MOST businesses have generators on the side – making a HUGE difference in cost of power and therefore food-storage costs as well – not counting hotel rooms, etc. (The staff don’t make much.)
      I don’t think that only doubling the available amount will bring Lebanon out of the 1890’s it backed into.

      Amazing … people on here know more about the subject than those idiots running the place. Anyone want to start up a consulting company? 🙂

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