Lebanon, Palestinians should refuse naturalization says envoy

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The Palestinian ambassador to Lebanon Abdallah Abdallah told Free Lebanon radio: The talk about naturalization of Palestinians after Lebanon recognizes the state of Palestine is not true .

The truth is the creation of a Palestinian state guarantees the return of that Palestinians to their homeland. Lebanon and the Palestinians should continue to coordinate their efforts and should continue to refuse naturalization and insist on the right of Palestinians to return to their homeland.

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45 responses to “Lebanon, Palestinians should refuse naturalization says envoy”

  1. 2160John Avatar

    They should be sent to Palestine and the West Bank. Kick out all the illegal Jewish settlers and send the Palestinians back to their country.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      And the ones on both sides who don’t want to leave where they are now will call it an illegal expulsion for the next 100 years and form new groups to bomb each other again.
      Only a peace accord which is adhered to will allow changes like that. Openness which allows free movement of peoples to where they would like to live, if they can afford to and if passing all the ‘fair’ criteria of the country they pick, will be the way to provide the freedom of the minds.
      People living where they want to also make better citizens, and naturalization should follow.

      1. 2160John Avatar

        What is that a justification and an excuse for the naturalization of the Palestinians in Lebanon???

        What if half of them want to stay here because they were born here and started liking the country.
        Sometimes I really wonder who you support and came to the conclusion that it is Israel. The only reason I wrote that post was to see a response from israeli sympathizers and israelis themselves.

        The Palestinians have caused enough trouble in Lebanon and still have illegal weapons outside the state’s control. On top of that, Ashkenazi Jews from Europe took their country. A Russian mafia man that is only by name Jewish and runs prostitution rings in Moscow can make aliyah to Palestine but the Palestinians that still have the keys to their homes can’t step into their own country. My advice is give them back their country or create a binational state(one state solution). In the long run, Palestinians will outnumber the Jews and take over their country but it’s the least they deserve after what your people did to them.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          john my dear, you are talking to the wrong man..he thinks zionists own “the promised land”…

        2. master09 Avatar

          What about the things Jordan did to the Palestinians?. Most of the so called Palestinians are not evn from Palestine, they came from Jordan and wanted to work in Isreal.  PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein: “The Palestinian people does not exist”
          Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said: The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

          Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
          “We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
          “When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

          For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. This declaration by a true “Palestinian” should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history.
          There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day “Palestinians” are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth
          So why does Jordan and other arab nations take most of these people back which will damn solve a lot of this bullshit.

    2. master09 Avatar

      70% of Palestinians did not live in Palestine they came from JORDAN, Egypt and so on,  the rest of them are Arab Isrealis.So why not send them back to Jordan???

      1. 2160John Avatar

        What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?

        So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.

        If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.

        Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.

        This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.

        Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

        1.  At least he brings quotes not only from other sources but right from the PLO/  aquatters themselves! BTW you blessed Arafat that killed your family was Egyptian…not born in Israel!

        2. master09 Avatar

          dude I have no time to reply today I have to go out pick some girls up.
          But to leave you with a thought the Arabs have been killing each other for a thousand years brother against brother father against son. They kill thier own blood and  Isreal has done 1% killing compared to what the Arabs do to each other. But no one talks about that do they, but Isreal farts the world turns 360 deg why.
          The Jews have been kicked out  and killed from 86 countries in the last 1500 years Why, this is nothing to do with Palestine. 
          POLITICS DUDE sit back think a little and not since 1948 only go back a little more and you will find your facts.

          I SUPPORT NO ONE…………………. GET THIS FACT DUDE…….. BUT I WILL FORGIVE AS MY LORD JESUS HAS TAUGHT ME AND FORGIVE AND TRY TO WORK  A PEACEFULL SOLUTION NOT GO ON WITH THIS BULLSHIT HATE YOU CLOWNS CARRY IN YOUR HAEDS TILL THE END OF TIME.  OH I forgot the Jews don’t want peace and they should just put thier guns down when Every ARAB is taught in SCHOOLS to kill JEWS. Jews just put your guns down and go to the ocean. POLITICS politics no one cares for you or me dude.

          NO PROPAGANDA DUDE COPY AND PASTE ARE FACTS, FACTS……………..Even THE SON of Hamas  leader spoke out about the Palestinian people and state  as a myth ..THE SON OF HAMAS LEADER on the inside.
          85% of Arabs in Isreal  said they would rather live under Isrealis rule and government. Fact no propaganda  

          I work for love no one pays me no PR FOR ANYONE SORRY….. DUDE YOU WATCH MOVIES TOO MUCH.

        3. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Dear John: And we witnessed the Irish too … 🙂
          We are all martyrs. (From the Greek ‘martur’ – meaning ‘witness’)

        4. Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel Avatar
          Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

          the people you speak of are like 10 – 20% of the population. Even without the Cisjordanians, the Transjordanians have a majority who speak the same dialect, have family ties and lived under the same regimes as the Palestinians for a very long time.

  2.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    They should be sent to Palestine and the West Bank. Kick out all the illegal Jewish settlers and send the Palestinians back to their country.

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      And the ones on both sides who don’t want to leave where they are now will call it an illegal expulsion for the next 100 years and form new groups to bomb each other again.
      Only a peace accord which is adhered to will allow changes like that. Openness which allows free movement of peoples to where they would like to live, if they can afford to and if passing all the ‘fair’ criteria of the country they pick, will be the way to provide the freedom of the minds.
      People living where they want to also make better citizens, and naturalization should follow.

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        What is that a justification and an excuse for the naturalization of the Palestinians in Lebanon???

        What if half of them want to stay here because they were born here and started liking the country.
        Sometimes I really wonder who you support and came to the conclusion that it is Israel. The only reason I wrote that post was to see a response from israeli sympathizers and israelis themselves.

        The Palestinians have caused enough trouble in Lebanon and still have illegal weapons outside the state’s control. On top of that, Ashkenazi Jews from Europe took their country. A Russian mafia man that is only by name Jewish and runs prostitution rings in Moscow can make aliyah to Palestine but the Palestinians that still have the keys to their homes can’t step into their own country. My advice is give them back their country or create a binational state(one state solution). In the long run, Palestinians will outnumber the Jews and take over their country but it’s the least they deserve after what your people did to them.

        1.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          john my dear, you are talking to the wrong man..he thinks zionists own “the promised land”…

        2.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          What about the things Jordan did to the Palestinians?. Most of the so called Palestinians are not evn from Palestine, they came from Jordan and wanted to work in Isreal.  PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein: “The Palestinian people does not exist”
          Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said: The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

          For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. This declaration by a true “Palestinian” should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day “Palestinians” are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth
          So why does Jordan and other arab nations take most of these people back which will damn solve a lot of this bullshit.

    2.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      70% of Palestinians did not live in Palestine they came from JORDAN, Egypt and so on,  the rest of them are Arab Isrealis.So why not send them back to Jordan???

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?

        So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.

        If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.

        Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.

        This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.

        Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

        1.  At least he brings quotes not only from other sources but right from the PLO/  aquatters themselves! BTW you blessed Arafat that killed your family was Egyptian…not born in Israel!

        2.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          dude I have no time to reply today I have to go out pick some girls up.
          But to leave you with a thought the Arabs have been killing each other for a thousand years brother against brother father against son. They kill thier own blood and  Isreal has done 1% killing compared to what the Arabs do to each other. But no one talks about that do they, but Isreal farts the world turns 360 deg why.
          The Jews have been kicked out  and killed from 86 countries in the last 1500 years Why, this is nothing to do with Palestine. 
          POLITICS DUDE sit back think a little and not since 1948 only go back a little more and you will find your facts.

          I SUPPORT NO ONE…………………. GET THIS FACT DUDE…….. BUT I WILL FORGIVE AS MY LORD JESUS HAS TAUGHT ME AND FORGIVE AND TRY TO WORK  A PEACEFULL SOLUTION NOT GO ON WITH THIS BULLSHIT HATE YOU CLOWNS CARRY IN YOUR HAEDS TILL THE END OF TIME.  OH I forgot the Jews don’t want peace and they should just put thier guns down when Every ARAB is taught in SCHOOLS to kill JEWS. Jews just put your guns down and go to the ocean. POLITICS politics no one cares for you or me dude.

          NO PROPAGANDA DUDE COPY AND PASTE ARE FACTS……………..Even THE SON of Hamas  leader spoke out about the Palestinian people and state  as a myth ..THE SON OF HAMAS LEADER on the inside.
          85% of Arabs in Isreal  said they would rather live under Isrealis rule and government. Fact no propaganda  

        3.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          Dear John: And we witnessed the Irish too … 🙂
          We are all martyrs. (From the Greek ‘martur’ – meaning ‘witness’)

        4. the people you speak of are like 10 – 20% of the population. Even without the Cisjordanians, the Transjordanians have a majority who speak the same dialect, have family ties and lived under the same regimes as the Palestinians for a very long time.

      2.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?

        So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.

        If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.

        Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.

        This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.

        Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

  3. master09 Avatar

    Antar2011
    The facts are the facts read the facts below, the world JUST hates the Jews and 95% of people you ask, why do you hate the Jews.The reply is no facts or a historical why, but just they do for no reason at all.  WHY.
    Don’t get me wrong I am not a jew or support anyone, but the fact is  history is written .
    If there is anything in books to support the state of Palestine for the Palestinian people I would like to know so I can read this. 

  4.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Antar2011
    The facts are the facts read the facts below, the world JUST hates the Jews and 95% of people you ask, why do you hate the Jews.The reply is no facts or a historical why, but just they do for no reason at all.  WHY.
    Don’t get me wrong I am not a jew or support anyone, but the fact is  history is written .
    If there is anything in books to support the state of Palestine for the Palestinian people I would like to know so I can read this. 

  5. 2160John Avatar

    What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?
     
    So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.
     
    If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.
     
    Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.
     
    This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.
     
    Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

    1.  Ya allah, John, you are such a propagandist.. give Master some credit for bringing facts instead of emotional propaganda  (which you bring)!  I guess you do not let historical facts and real history get in the way.  

      Yes, many Lebanese have Phoenician blood which I posted and mentioned about…something to be proud of. (At least this that you said is true). But guess what? Lebanon was not called Lebanon.  There was a Mount Lebanon mentioned in history books, bible (The bible is Jewish by the way so enjoy!)  So NO Lebanon has not been called Lebanon for 6,000 years, pure fantasy.   There was, however, a Phoenicia in northern Lebanon and south western Syria that goes back thousands of years. S. Lebanon was part of Israel. Jesus went to Qana for wedding.   AND Phoenicians and Israelis/Hebrews got along and did commerce together.

      Yes, some other people converted and joined them and intermarried with them but almost all of the Jews are (related ) to the Hebrews according to genetic tests…doesn’t matter if they were exiled to Europe or other parts of ME after but their origin; the genes/chromosomes show they are from here.  I know you don’t like this b/c this is irrefutable proof.  SO what about a Lebanese who had a great great great grandfather or mother that was French or Iraqi or something else…is this person less Lebanese in your eyes?

      There is no such thing as Palis.  Tell me an Arab Pali leader before 1964, a pali president, coinage, king, language????? They have been using that name only since the 1960’s…before that or before 1948 they did not want to be called PALIS because Europeans called Jews, Palestinians.

      BIG FACT: John the so-called “palis” do not own anything neither historically nor LEGALLY in land of Israel.  The ISraeli have a 4,000 year old connection to the land whereas most of the “palis” have only been there since the large immigration of the 1920’s to 1948 and then Egypt and Jordan put many more illegally in the occupied areas of Gaza and West bank (Judea and Samaria) during their illegal occupation of 1948-1967 that the Arab league and not one Arab country legitimitized or accepted. INdeed it was illegal according to int’l law.

      In fact…another BIG FACT: the requirement for UNRWA to confer upon an Arab in Israel a status of “refugee” (notice they did not say “pali”) was that they had to have lived in Israel (I don’t think they asked the israelis permission to come) for FIVE (5) YEARS ONLY!!!   Then, they discovered (and many Arabs rioted for not getting benefits. Some falsified records and claimed more people or dead people in order to get more benefit cards just for free food etc…) that many Arabs did not qualify!! So UNRWA lowered their Israeli residency requirements even more… to only TWO (2) YEARS living in Israel to be counted as a refugee “from Israel”!!!  If this does not tell you something then you are living in a fantasy world.

      I am sorry for your loss of relatives in the Mountain war but you should blame the murderers who did it-the PLO/palis  not Israel who was invited in and who fought them. I know it is hard to do but one should thank them and be grateful for what they did do. After all it was only Lebanon’s responsibility to get rid of those terroristsPLO/traitors/murderers.

      The Hezzies and the PLO are of the same ilk and have murdered and tortured many Lebanese, including women and children.  Do you see the israelis soldiers hidding behind their women and children?

      and Yes I could make a list of HA, Syrian and PLO propagandists on this site: Leobetapar, 2160John and a couple of others.

      1. master09 Avatar

        dude Where is LEO he was a blast not heard from him for a while.

        Kobi I asked people the reason they hate the Jews… the answer is 90% of times (((  I just do they are Jews and are money hungry ))). They control the world. 
        That is the level of education today and the worst thing is they carry soooo much hate for no reason. .. I say why dont you hate the Germans or the Turks  Iran  or any other empire or country that killed 100 million more people than the JEWS. You know what I hear SILENCE. 

        I like facts….

    2. master09 Avatar

      You ask why Jordan does not take Palestinians back, I will Paste again. They kicked most out for creating strife.

      September 1970 is known as the Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود‎ aylūl al-aswad) in Arab history and sometimes is referred to as the “era of regrettable events.” It was a month when Hashemite King Hussein of Jordan moved to quash the militancy of Palestinian organizations and restore his monarchy’s rule over the country.[3] The violence resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.[1] Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon.

      The view of todays Palestians.Search
      Search for: Go HomeAboutArchivesContactVolunteer Palestinians turn against Syria’s regime, their long-time advocate
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      Macleod and Annasofie Flamand
      While stripped of their nationality in Jordan and living in Lebanon in the worst socio-economic conditions of any in their community, Palestinian refugees in Syria have long enjoyed comparably better circumstances, including equal rights with citizens.

      But in a development that challenges a central pillar of the Syrian regime’s legitimacy, Palestinians in Syria are beginning to turn against a dictatorship that for decades used its claims of resisting Israel and fighting for Palestinian rights as justification for the repression of its own people.

      “We will not accept to be a bargaining chip for the Syrian regime,” said Abu Ammar, 50, a Palestinian refugee living in Yarmouk, a poor southern suburb of Damascus and the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Syria.

      “The regime wants to use us against the pro-democracy protesters but I think most Palestinian refugees in Yarmouk now moved from being neutral to being on the side of the Syrian protesters,” he said. Ammar is a former militant in Fatah, the dominant secular Palestinian party, and is now a car mechanic in Yarmouk.

      .

      1. 2160John Avatar

        Did it take you 3 days to come up with that?

        Jordan had a big Christian community so they brought in Palestinians to have more Muslims. The original inhabitants of Jordan are the Ghassanid Christians and the Bedouins.

        1. master09 Avatar

          Who cares who the original inhabitants are we are not talking about10,000 years ago, so called Palestinians came from all over the middle east. Should the Christians about 5 million around the world today come back to Lebanon, yes they should but reality is why would they when they intergrate into new communities and very well  to. 
          By the way these Ghassanids came from YEMEN in 300 AD.
          Jordan still have a large Christian community about 400,000.

          After all this I think you miss the bigger picture of Palestinians and Jews and Isreali Palestinians. This problem will never be fixed when all Arabs want to destroy JEWS for what reason please.
          Cheque in the mail.

          By the way I have a life, remember I was picking up girls and two days to please.
          Give me more facts than your GHassanid and Bedouins. The picture is bigger than JORDAN mate much bigger that is one side of 50 others.

      2. 2160John Avatar

        Did it take you 3 days to come up with that?

        Jordan had a big Christian community so they brought in Palestinians to have more Muslims. The original inhabitants of Jordan are the Ghassanid Christians and the Bedouins.

  6. 2160John Avatar

    What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?
     
    So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.
     
    If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.
     
    Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.
     
    This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.
     
    Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

  7.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?
     
    So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.
     
    If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.
     
    Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.
     
    This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.
     
    Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

    1.  Ya allah, John, you are such a propagandist.. give Master some credit for bringing facts instead of emotional propaganda  (which you bring)!  I guess you do not let historical facts and real history get in the way.  

      Yes, many Lebanese have Phoenician blood which I posted and mentioned about…something to be proud of. (At least this that you said is true). But guess what? Lebanon was not called Lebanon.  There was a Mount Lebanon mentioned in history books, bible (The bible is Jewish by the way so enjoy!)  So NO Lebanon has not been called Lebanon for 6,000 years, pure fantasy.   There was, however, a Phoenicia in northern Lebanon and south western Syria that goes back thousands of years. S. Lebanon was part of Israel. Jesus went to Qana for wedding.   AND Phoenicians and Israelis/Hebrews got along and did commerce together.

      Yes, some other people converted and joined them and intermarried with them but almost all of the Jews are (related ) to the Hebrews according to genetic tests…doesn’t matter if they were exiled to Europe or other parts of ME after but their origin; the genes/chromosomes show they are from here.  I know you don’t like this b/c this is irrefutable proof.  SO what about a Lebanese who had a great great great grandfather or mother that was French or Iraqi or something else…is this person less Lebanese in your eyes?

      There is no such thing as Palis.  Tell me an Arab Pali leader before 1964, a pali president, coinage, king, language????? They have been using that name only since the 1960’s…before that or before 1948 they did not want to be called PALIS because Europeans called Jews, Palestinians.

      BIG FACT: John the so-called “palis” do not own anything neither historically nor LEGALLY in land of Israel.  The ISraeli have a 4,000 year old connection to the land whereas most of the “palis” have only been there since the large immigration of the 1920’s to 1948 and then Egypt and Jordan put many more illegally in the occupied areas of Gaza and West bank (Judea and Samaria) during their illegal occupation of 1948-1967 that the Arab league and not one Arab country legitimitized or accepted. INdeed it was illegal according to int’l law.

      In fact…another BIG FACT: the requirement for UNRWA to confer upon an Arab in Israel a status of “refugee” (notice they did not say “pali”) was that they had to have lived in Israel (I don’t think they asked the israelis permission to come) for FIVE (5) YEARS ONLY!!!   Then, they discovered (and many Arabs rioted for not getting benefits. Some falsified records and claimed more people or dead people in order to get more benefit cards just for free food etc…) that many Arabs did not qualify!! So UNRWA lowered their Israeli residency requirements even more… to only TWO (2) YEARS living in Israel to be counted as a refugee “from Israel”!!!  If this does not tell you something then you are living in a fantasy world.

      I am sorry for your loss of relatives in the Mountain war but you should blame the murderers who did it-the PLO/palis  not Israel who was invited in and who fought them. I know it is hard to do but one should thank them and be grateful for what they did do. After all it was only Lebanon’s responsibility to get rid of those terroristsPLO/traitors/murderers.

      The Hezzies and the PLO are of the same ilk and have murdered and tortured many Lebanese, including women and children.  Do you see the israelis soldiers hidding behind their women and children?

      and Yes I could make a list of HA, Syrian and PLO propagandists on this site: Leobetapar, 2160John and a couple of others.

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        Anonymous

        dude Where is LEO he was a blast not heard from him for a while.

        Kobi I asked people the reason they hate the Jews… the answer is 90% of times (((  I just do they are Jews and are money hungry ))). They control the world. 
        That is the level of education today and the worst thing is they carry soooo much hate for no reason. .. I say why dont you hate the Germans or the Turks  Iran  or any other empire or country that killed 100 million more people than the JEWS. You know what I hear SILENCE. 

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        Anonymous

        dude Where is LEO he was a blast not heard from him for a while.

        Kobi I asked people the reason they hate the Jews… the answer is 90% of times (((  I just do they are Jews and are money hungry ))). They control the world. 
        That is the level of education today and the worst thing is they carry soooo much hate for no reason. .. I say why dont you hate the Germans or the Turks  Iran  or any other empire or country that killed 100 million more people than the JEWS. You know what I hear SILENCE. 

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      Anonymous

      You ask why Jordan does not take Palestinians back, I will Paste again. They kicked most out for creating strife.

      September 1970 is known as the Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود‎ aylūl al-aswad) in Arab history and sometimes is referred to as the “era of regrettable events.” It was a month when Hashemite King Hussein of Jordan moved to quash the militancy of Palestinian organizations and restore his monarchy’s rule over the country.[3] The violence resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.[1] Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon.

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        Anonymous

        Did it take you 3 days to come up with that?

        Jordan had a big Christian community so they brought in Palestinians to have more Muslims. The original inhabitants of Jordan are the Ghassanid Christians and the Bedouins.

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          Anonymous

          Who cares who the original inhabitants are we are not talking about10,000 years ago, so called Palestinians came from all over the middle east. Should the Christians about 5 million around the world today come back to Lebanon, yes they should but reality is why would they when they intergrate into new communities and very well  to. 

          By the way I have a life, remember I was picking up girls and two days to please.
          Give me more facts than your GHassanid and Bedouins. The picture is bigger than JORDAN mate much bigger that is one side of 50 others.

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    Anonymous

    What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?
     
    So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.
     
    If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.
     
    Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.
     
    This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.
     
    Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

  9.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    What’s up with your copy and paste propaganda?
     
    So there’s no such thing as Palestinians yet they have keys to their houses and have been living there for hundreds if not thousands of years. If Palestinians are from Jordan then why don’t they move back to Jordan instead of staying in Lebanon. The Jordanian government would of asked for the return of their people. The true inhabitants of Jordan are the Muslim Bedouins and the Christian Ghassanids. The Palestinians moved there when they were kicked out of Palestine by the Ashkenazi Zionists and they now make up 60% of Jordan’s population if not more.
     
    If Palestinians are from Jordan then how come 20% of Israel’s population are Palestinian Arabs which didn’t leave in the Nakba. What’s your other argument?? That people that moved to Palestine from Iraq 3,000 years ago and left to Europe and even to China can return but the Palestinians can’t? 90% of these Jews are not even related to the real Hebrews. They are converts. I can convert and make aliyah to Israel. That doesn’t mean I have a right to go there more than the Palestinian who owns it.
     
    Lebanon has been called Lebanon for 6,000 years and 40% of our population has Phoenician blood. I don’t need your propaganda about Lebanon, Palestine and Syria being the same. What a load of bull.
     
    This site is filled with Israeli/IDF payed propagandists which seek to boost Israel’s PR. Just to let you guys know, Israel does not have PR. They are murderers. They betrayed us in the Mountain War and left my relatives to die at the hands of the PSP and PLO. They betrayed the SLA at the hands of Hezbollah. The same SLA which tortured hundreds of Lebanese men and murdered them yet Hezbollah turned in the SLA to the army. After all they did to the residents of South Lebanon, th SLA and their families fled to Israel fearing a Hezbollah massacre but as it turns out, Hezbollah are more humane and decent than Israel will ever be. Not only did they spare fellow Lebanese that were their enemy, they forgave them too.
     
    Here is a list of Israeli propagandists on this site: master09, jay kanousis, adam yonatan and 5thdrawer. There may be more.

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    Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

    These West Jordanians should go to Jordan, their homeland.

  11. These West Jordanians should go to Jordan, their homeland.

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