Suleiman to pursue dialogue talks in Beiteddine

President Michel Suleiman is expected to move to the summer presidential residence in Beiteddine on Tuesday where he is expected to continue his consultations with top Lebanese leaders regarding the national dialogue talks which are aimed at resolving the differences between the March 8 and 14 rival camps.

The Beiteddine palace is located in the Shouf region of MT Lebanon, east of the capital

Ministerial sources told As Safir newspaper on Monday that the president will not give up on this issue .

The sources warned that there would be more division among the Lebanese if they don’t meet at the dialogue table.

Suleiman is scheduled to host an Iftar banquet in honor of political and spiritual officials on August 11 where he is expected to stress the importance of dialogue.

Former PM and current Future bloc leader MP Fouad Siniora said in an interview published on Sunday that the national dialogue should “be limited to the issue of Hezbollah’s arms so that it will be purposeful and meaningful.”

The former PM also voiced the importance of Arab League participation in the national dialogue, adding that Hezbollah should “show a clear will to participate in the government and set a date to implement all the issues that were agreed upon in the previous national dialogues.”

  • 5thDrawer

    For Dialogue:
    It’s the teaching that starts with: ‘God X is the only god. Any who believe in God Y should be eliminated, because if you don’t, they will eliminate you.’ Those who are XY or YX are marginalized, or used at times by the X’s and Y’s as useful idiots against the other side. Man’s irrational beliefs.
    These days we search using advanced science to try to find the ‘proofs’ . BUT those ‘proofs’ will not prove the existence of God – it can only be research and discovery of historical moments and evidence that may have occurred as written in the ancient texts – which are a history of Humans, not Gods. And we certainly can track a history of various beliefs – Gods ‘A’ to ‘Z’ have been foremost at various times and in various places in Human History over recorded millennia. And all have been used by humans to create animosity and hate for those we do not like, and to raise the ‘spirit’ against the supposed ‘enemy’. Very seldom has it been used to promote what we call ‘love’ for all others.
      If the ‘PASSIONS’ of a human – those which we name as ‘love’, ‘hate’, ‘fear’, ‘desire’ and so on cannot be explained fully, but we know they exist in us, then why not ascribe this irrational belief in any God to the same realm, and say that God is found in the Spirit of Humans only – admit that it is only humans who do these ungodly things to each other – and recognize that pumping useless religious crap into people’s brains is the FIRST method one human finds as the way to control the others.
      The minds of the controlled have not often been allowed to be free to advance human development, and at times even the controllers have buried themselves in ignorance, creating Dark Ages of existence. (believe their own propaganda)
      Through history, we have seen the most horrible things done on this planet ‘in the name of God’, and the best things have come from minds which will not be controlled, and are allowed to be free to seek Him – for themselves.
      In the meantime, believe that the universe unfolds to the laws of scientific meaning, the planet on which we find what we call ‘life’ evolves to the same laws, and our evolution on it is the only miracle we have some proof of.
      We know what is ‘right’ and what is ‘wrong’ for us as humans – experience is the proof. Free the minds, people.

    And if you wish to believe the Aztec God was right about 2012, I will wait for the proof.

    • antar2011

      i have posted a reply for the blood money thingy you mentioned on another post… but i am not going to go further with any other explanation unless you give me and other believer in God some respect…unfortunately i see lots of sarcasm about God in your post…something i cannot accept even if i repsect your right to express it.

      if you want dialogue, i am willing to discuss and of course if the admin allow it but with any dialogue, respect for entities held high is a must…what then if it was Allah’s existence we are having a dialogue about.

      of you provide this respect for the belief in God then anyone can have dialogue with you not just me.

      anyway to you your deen to me mine!

      • 5thDrawer

        Thank you Antar2011. I do and will read and consider all you say.
           I hope that in these little diatribes I have not specified any religion … just religion as such. We all hope that Great Spirit exists, and I am maybe/probably simply slow to find it. I have not ruled it out.
          I respect your beliefs … as we all have beliefs. Perhaps you see that mine have been jaded a little since youth, with the multitude of examples of what believers do to each other … anywhere, and in any time period … and thus I have decided it is not any God’s doing.
          Yet I have seen the wonder and beauty of human belief … in churches, mosques, synagogs, and temples – ancient and modern … and inside those edifices the love a human can have for that belief, as well as how much love one can show for it.

          I suppose my sarcasm is for the human when outside those peaceful artistically-clad walls. (Although some show their disrespect inside them as well.)
        Being free to speak, I can say I do not believe God cares to meddle in affairs of human government. We are the only ones who put Him there. And that, I suppose, is my bottom line .. and what I think I was saying to a large extent.
        For your sensibilities, I will try to not sound like I am trying to convert anyone. 🙂
        Peace be unto you.

        • antar2011

          thank you for clarifying your position rgarding Allah. it is good to have doubts but it never is healthy to blaim Allah by looking at the practices of human beings…a much better option if one looks at what Allah actually commends.

          and no i do not think you are trying to convert anyone nor i. i just wanted some respect by less sarcasm regarding Allah and point out the problem is through men rather than The Merciful One.

    • antar2011

      i have posted a reply for the blood money thingy you mentioned on another post… but i am not going to go further with any other explanation unless you give me and other believer in God some respect…unfortunately i see lots of sarcasm about God in your post…something i cannot accept even if i repsect your right to express it.

      if you want dialogue, i am willing to discuss and of course if the admin allow it but with any dialogue, respect for entities held high is a must…what then if it was Allah’s existence we are having a dialogue about.

      of you provide this respect for the belief in God then anyone can have dialogue with you not just me.

      anyway to you your deen to me mine!

  • Anonymous

    For Dialogue:
    It’s the teaching that starts with: ‘God X is the only god. Any who believe in God Y should be eliminated, because if you don’t, they will eliminate you.’ Those who are XY or YX are marginalized, or used at times by the X’s and Y’s as useful idiots against the other side. Man’s irrational beliefs.
    These days we search using advanced science to try to find the ‘proofs’ . BUT those ‘proofs’ will not prove the existence of God – it can only be research and discovery of historical moments and evidence that may have occurred as written in the ancient texts – which are a history of Humans, not Gods. And we certainly can track a history of various beliefs – Gods ‘A’ to ‘Z’ have been foremost at various times and in various places in Human History over recorded millennia. And all have been used by humans to create animosity and hate for those we do not like, and to raise the ‘spirit’ against the supposed ‘enemy’. Very seldom has it been used to promote what we call ‘love’ for all others.
      If the ‘PASSIONS’ of a human – those which we name as ‘love’, ‘hate’, ‘fear’, ‘desire’ and so on cannot be explained fully, but we know they exist in us, then why not ascribe this irrational belief in any God to the same realm, and say that God is found in the Spirit of Humans only – admit that it is only humans who do these ungodly things to each other – and recognize that pumping useless religious crap into people’s brains is the FIRST method one human finds as the way to control the others.
      The minds of the controlled have not often been allowed to be free to advance human development, and at times even the controllers have buried themselves in ignorance, creating Dark Ages of existence. (believe their own propaganda)
      Through history, we have seen the most horrible things done on this planet ‘in the name of God’, and the best things have come from minds which will not be controlled, and are allowed to be free to seek Him – for themselves.
      In the meantime, believe that the universe unfolds to the laws of scientific meaning, the planet on which we find what we call ‘life’ evolves to the same laws, and our evolution on it is the only miracle we have some proof of.
      We know what is ‘right’ and what is ‘wrong’ for us as humans – experience is the proof. Free the minds, people.

    • Anonymous

      i have posted a reply for the blood money thingy you mentioned on another post… but i am not going to go further with any other explanation unless you give me and other believer in God some respect…unfortunately i see lots of sarcasm about God in your post…something i cannot accept even if i repsect your right to express it.

      if you want dialogue, i am willing to discuss and of course if the admin allow it but with any dialogue, respect for entities held high is a must…what then if it was Allah’s existence we are having a dialogue about.

      of you provide this respect for the belief in God then anyone can have dialogue with you not just me.

      anyway to you your deen to me mine!

      • Anonymous

        Thank you Antar2011. I do and will read and consider all you say.
           I hope that in these little diatribes I have not specified any religion … just religion as such. We all hope that Great Spirit exists, and I am maybe/probably simply slow to find it. I have not ruled it out.  I respect your beliefs … as we all have beliefs. Perhaps you see that mine have been jaded a little since youth, with the multitude of examples of what believers do to each other … anywhere, and in any time period … and thus I have decided it is not any God’s doing.  Yet I have seen the wonder and beauty of human belief … in churches, mosques, synagogs, and temples – ancient and modern … and inside those edifices the love a human can have for that belief, as well as how much love one can show for it.  I suppose my sarcasm is for the human when outside those peaceful artistically-clad walls. (Although some show their disrespect inside them as well.)Being free to speak, I can say I do not believe God cares to meddle in affairs of human government. We are the only ones who put Him there. And that, I suppose, is my bottom line .. and what I think I was saying to a large extent.For your sensibilities, I will try to not sound like I am trying to convert anyone. :-)Peace be unto you.

        • Anonymous

          thank you for clarifying your position rgarding Allah. it is good to have doubts but it never is healthy to blaim Allah by looking at the practices of human beings…a much better option if one looks at what Allah actually commends.

        • Anonymous

          thank you for clarifying your position rgarding Allah. it is good to have doubts but it never is healthy to blaim Allah by looking at the practices of human beings…a much better option if one looks at what Allah actually commends.

  • antar2011

    lebanese politicians actions has nothing to do with what Allah wants them to…

    i just wish you move past your prejiduce and redicule for the religious…. Allah created human being with choice after having showing him truth and evil with their consequences, what do we put the blaim on the divine when the choice of any actions and or utterances  came from human beings?

    • 5thDrawer

      All the actions and utterances come from the humans … the writings too … which is my point.
      Whatever is ‘devine’ remains so.
      I only ridicule the ridiculous.
      If I move, it is only forward – toward a better understanding.

      • antar2011

        i hope you move forward with equal respect to the religious and the non religious.

        your underlining assumption of some religious terms does not move you forward i am afraid…

        • 5thDrawer

          I respect all humans who treat other humans with equality. Including the other half – women, of course.
            That is not to recognize we are all equal, since we are not of course, because genetic factors and life experiences play a large hand. Even the genetically fit brain can be molded from early ages – although some later recognize they have been lied to, or led in a wrong direction against humanity itself.
            I am not sure which ‘religious terms’ I used, except for the word ‘God’ itself – which has been popular for so many for such a long time – although that translation of an origional word may not be entirely accurate anyway, as it was used more often as a descriptive (adjective) many times as well. (Ra was a god .. Zeus was a god … etc.) Some of them are even women.
          🙂 
          Monkeys are ‘up there’ in some places still. Perhaps a recognition of our roots.

          I’m happy to see you have some ‘Spirit’ for the debate. 🙂 Seems most are too afraid.

  • Anonymous

    lebanese politicians actions has nothing to do with what Allah wants them to…

    i just wish you move past your prejiduce and redicule for the religious…. Allah created human being with choice after having showing him truth and evil with their consequences, what do we put the blaim on the divine when the choice of any actions and or utterances  came from human beings?

    • Anonymous

      All the actions and utterances come from the humans … the writings too … which is my point.
      Whatever is ‘devine’ remains so.
      I only ridicule the ridiculous.

      • Anonymous

        i hope you move forward with equal respect to the religious and the non religious.

        your underlining assumption of some religious terms does not move you forward i am afraid…

        • Anonymous

          I respect all humans who treat other humans with equality. Including the other half – women, of course.
            That is not to recognize we are all equal, since we are not of course, because genetic factors and life experiences play a large hand. Even the genetically fit brain can be molded from early ages – although some later recognize they have been lied to, or led in a wrong direction against humanity itself.
            I am not sure which ‘religious terms’ I used, except for the word ‘God’ itself – which has been popular for so many for such a long time – although that translation of an origional word may not be entirely accurate anyway, as it was used more often as a descriptive (adjective) many times as well. (Ra was a god .. Zeus was a god … etc.) Some of them are even women. 🙂 
          Monkeys are ‘up there’ in some places still. Perhaps a recognition of our roots.

          I’m happy to see you have some ‘Spirit’ for the debate. 🙂

  • Anonymous

    lebanese politicians actions has nothing to do with what Allah wants them to…

    i just wish you move past your prejiduce and redicule for the religious…. Allah created human being with choice after having showing him truth and evil with their consequences, what do we put the blaim on the divine when the choice of any actions and or utterances  came from human beings?