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Violent earthquake in Lebanon, Syria after STL phase 2 indictments, report

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British security sources revealed to the Kuwaiti al-Seyassah newspaper that the second phase of the indictment by the Special Tribunal for Lebanon will include the names of a number of Lebanese officials closely associated with Syria as well as Syrian individuals.

Among the names of Lebanese officials closely linked ton Syria are the four generals who were arrested in 2005 and released from jail in 2009: Former General Security chief Jamil Sayyed, former head of the presidential guard Mustafa Hamdan, former Internal Security Forces chief Ali Hajj, and former military intelligence chief Raymond Azar.

Other names include MP Suleiman Franjieh, former MPs Michel Samaha, Wiam Wahhab, Nasser Qandil, Abdul Rahim Mrad, and several other individuals.

As far as Syria is concerned , five or six intelligence individuals that were involved in Lebanon up until the withdrawal of the Syrian army from Lebanon in 2005 will be included in the arrest warrants accompanying the second phase of the indictment.

Al-Seyassah sources said that the second phase of the indictment “will create a violent earthquake in Lebanon and Syria as it will reach the Syrians at the highest level of rule and others who have been left out of the spotlight.”

Photo: Former General Security chief Jamil Sayyed (L) ,  former military intelligence chief Raymond Azar ( 2nd from L) , ormer Internal Security Forces chief Ali Hajj ( 3rd from L) former head of the presidential guard Mustafa Hamdan 4th from L, former minister Nasser Qandil (R)

Source: Naharnet

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42 responses to “Violent earthquake in Lebanon, Syria after STL phase 2 indictments, report”

  1. sam_shaker Avatar
    sam_shaker

    How about Saad Hariri how come he’s not indicted after Aoun accused him of killing his own father lol.
    so the third phase might include Nassrallah and Gibran Bassil probably and Tweety Orange..

    1. Amine123 Avatar
      Amine123

      I think Aoun need to go Asfouriah… He must be mentally ill

      1. sam_shaker Avatar
        sam_shaker

        No Aoun knows what he’s doing its his followers who are mentally ill for following someone like him who is using them first to pump his bank account and second increase his powerbase. I have not seen one damned good thing Aoun has done for Lebanon. I am not sure what his followers are following they’re like sheep and go with the flow. Please I do not wish to be told better than following LF. I do not follow no one and could careless to be following such hypocrites..

  2. Avatar
    Anonymous

    How about Saad Hariri how come he’s not indicted after Aoun accused him of killing his own father lol.
    so the third phase might include Nassrallah and Gibran Bassil probably and Tweety Orange..

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      I think Aoun need to go Asfouriah… He must be mentally ill

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        No Aoun knows what he’s doing its his followers who are mentally ill for following someone like him who is using them first to pump his bank account and second increase his powerbase. I have not seen one damned good thing Aoun has done for Lebanon. I am not sure what his followers are following they’re like sheep and go with the flow. Please I do not wish to be told better than following LF. I do not follow no one and could careless to be following such hypocrites..

  3. ghzayel Avatar
    ghzayel

    after 6 years of endless preparations and deliberations, we finally came back to what the majority of the lebanese people and the whole world already knew since day one!!!

    we are way beyond knowing the truth phase!!!

     we are beginning to  enter the law enforcement phase and so far, inside lebanon, the bad elements / culprits are outsmarting and overpowering any local impartial legal and military authorities that could try to enforce the execution of any stl decisions; assuming these authorities are not already siding or fully controlled by the 8th of march and hizballah followers.

    taking this into consideration, no one in lebanon, not even the most fierce of the 14th of march leaders, if they were in power, could cooperate with and deliver to stl what it already asked for or is about to ask from the lebanese authorities.  

    the solution to this dilemna unfortunately does not lie within lebanese hands. an international solution must be found real fast before lebanon becomes isolated internationally and suffers unbearable sanctions and or major security and sectarian problems!!!     

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      I think the ‘international community’ is already staying away … many who would like to at least visit Lebanon are not coming now … and if some do, it is only for family – who maybe also wish they could leave. You are right – now it is in the ‘enforcement’ phase, and Interpol and other countries have received their parts of the report too.
       Can there be any ‘solution’ which does not end up with civil war again?  ONLY ONE !  Go to court – do the legal things necessary – and try to defend there if you think the STL report is wrong. And then, after all is settled, find the way to put history behind – and begin a new understanding of what ‘the people’ really want for their poor lives.

      1. corewarrior Avatar
        corewarrior

        Why would you go to court when the judges already know you are guilty? How can you defend yourself in a court that has already made up it’s mind? Why would you submit yourself to a completely prejudiced court? When the court is made up and supported by countries that hate and want to destroy the hezzie movement it can not be impartial.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Well, aside from your incorrect thinking that more than half the world is against a specific movement, I didn’t see an indictment against all of Hezzie .. only the ones who set it up and pushed the button. Maybe they were Israeli spies and not Hezzy? Nasrallah says he has ‘proof’ that they are all innocent, so this is the chance to show it.
            If you get a ticket for going through a red light, but simply pay the fine instead of arguing the moment or the policeman’s perception or what may have caused it to happen, then I suppose you deserve the fine.
          You broke a law and pay. The fine IS the justice part. 
            And So, if those named are admitting guilt by not ‘showing’ in a court, and Hezzi is not willing to bring the accused to the court to plead a case, I suppose it looks bad for the larger part of that movement, and guilt is assumed.
          I think even you can safely say that a lot of people were killed and mangled. That part is a fact without prejudice.
          What do you think the ‘fine’ should be for this?

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Well, aside from your incorrect thinking that more than half the world is against a specific movement, I didn’t see an indictment against all of Hezzie .. only the ones who set it up and pushed the button. Maybe they were Israeli spies and not Hezzy? Nasrallah says he has ‘proof’ that they are all innocent, so this is the chance to show it.
            If you get a ticket for going through a red light, but simply pay the fine instead of arguing the moment or the policeman’s perception or what may have caused it to happen, then I suppose you deserve the fine.
          You broke a law and pay. The fine IS the justice part. 
            And So, if those named are admitting guilt by not ‘showing’ in a court, and Hezzi is not willing to bring the accused to the court to plead a case, I suppose it looks bad for the larger part of that movement, and guilt is assumed.
          I think even you can safely say that a lot of people were killed and mangled. That part is a fact without prejudice.
          What do you think the ‘fine’ should be for this?

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      I think the ‘international community’ is already staying away … many who would like to at least visit Lebanon are not coming now … and if some do, it is only for family – who maybe also wish they could leave. You are right – now it is in the ‘enforcement’ phase, and Interpol and other countries have received their parts of the report too.
       Can there be any ‘solution’ which does not end up with civil war again?  ONLY ONE !  Go to court – do the legal things necessary – and try to defend there if you think the STL report is wrong. And then, after all is settled, find the way to put history behind – and begin a new understanding of what ‘the people’ really want for their poor lives.

  4. Avatar
    Anonymous

    after 6 years of endless preparations and deliberations, we finally came back to what the majority of the lebanese people and the whole world already knew since day one!!!

    we are way beyond knowing the truth phase!!!

     we are beginning to  enter the law enforcement phase and so far, inside lebanon, the bad elements / culprits are outsmarting and overpowering any local impartial legal and military authorities that could try to enforce the execution of any stl decisions; assuming these authorities are not already siding or fully controlled by the 8th of march and hizballah followers.

    taking this into consideration, no one in lebanon, not even the most fierce of the 14th of march leaders, if they were in power, could cooperate with and deliver to stl what it already asked for or is about to ask from the lebanese authorities.  

    the solution to this dilemna unfortunately does not lie within lebanese hands. an international solution must be found real fast before lebanon becomes isolated internationally and suffers unbearable sanctions and or major security and sectarian problems!!!     

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      I think the ‘international community’ is already staying away … many who would like to at least visit Lebanon are not coming now … and if some do, it is only for family – who maybe also wish they could leave. You are right – now it is in the ‘enforcement’ phase, and Interpol and other countries have received their parts of the report too.
       Can there be any ‘solution’ which does not end up with civil war again?  ONLY ONE !  Go to court – do the legal things necessary – and try to defend there if you think the STL report is wrong. And then, after all is settled, find the way to put history behind – and begin a new understanding of what ‘the people’ really want for their poor lives.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Why would you go to court when the judges already know you are guilty? How can you defend yourself in a court that has already made up it’s mind? Why would you submit yourself to a completely prejudiced court? When the court is made up and supported by countries that hate and want to destroy the hezzie movement it can not be impartial.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Well, aside from your incorrect thinking that more than half the world is against a specific movement, I didn’t see an indictment against all of Hezzie .. only the ones who set it up and pushed the button. Maybe they were Israeli spies and not Hezzy? Nasrallah says he has ‘proof’ that they are all innocent, so this is the chance to show it.
            If you get a ticket for going through a red light, but simply pay the fine instead of arguing the moment or the policeman’s perception or what may have caused it to happen, then I suppose you deserve the fine.
          You broke a law and pay. The fine IS the justice part. 
            And So, if those named are admitting guilt by not ‘showing’ in a court, and Hezzi is not willing to bring the accused to the court to plead a case, I suppose it looks bad for the larger part of that movement, and guilt is assumed.
          I think even you can safely say that a lot of people were killed and mangled. That part is a fact without prejudice.
          What do you think the ‘fine’ should be for this?

  5. Amine123 Avatar
    Amine123

    how about Bashar and hus mob

  6. Avatar
    Anonymous

    how about Bashar and hus mob

  7. LebAus Avatar
    LebAus

    How about we arrest all the politicians and start over?

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    How about we arrest all the politicians and start over?

  9. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    Now, if the STL is supposed to be secret, how come the British Security Sources know who is on the inditment list before the warrants are
    handed to the proper authority as was done with the first 4 involved( supposedly)

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      2nd ‘phase’ … Interpol knows … therefore all police services …

  10. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Now, if the STL is supposed to be secret, how come the British Security Sources know who is on the inditment list before the warrants are
    handed to the proper authority as was done with the first 4 involved( supposedly)

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      2nd ‘phase’ … Interpol knows …

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      2nd ‘phase’ … Interpol knows …

  11. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    If the STL is supposed to be secret, how come the British security sources knew who was indited?
    Maybe they got  their information from ” NEWS OF THE WORLD” before being shut down

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      You could have ‘edited’ your first comment .. 😉

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      You could have ‘edited’ your first comment .. 😉

  12. Avatar
    Anonymous

    If the STL is supposed to be secret, how come the British security sources knew who was indited?
    Maybe they got  their information from ” NEWS OF THE WORLD” before being shut down

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You could have ‘edited’ your first comment .. 😉

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You could have ‘edited’ your first comment .. 😉

  13. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    So much for the secrecy and credibility of the STL

  14. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    So much for the secrecy and credibility of the STL

  15. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    So much for the secrecy and credibility of the STL

  16. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    Allah help lebanon!

    PS if there are leaks, it does not mean it is politicised…it just means that someone who knows what is happening in the court and is in deep sh***t up to his head is making the leaks …perhaps to undermine STL credibility and so to save his neck!

    there are wikileaks and m8 ministers were prepared to “quote” in the parliament last week not asking for credibility.

    it is only idiotic to ignore the evidence that will be brought up in court and conclude the STL is politicised because of the leaks.

    anyway, to me, STL or not, Jameel al Sayyed looks and acts like a miniture tyrant who does not blink an eye when orders for murder are taken.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      You can be sure if ‘Interpol’ has been given the necessary information, there is not more ‘secret’.
        If the people who first receive ‘reports’ to want to ‘leak’ them, then it’s not the STL’s fault … and in this case, before any report was even known to be ‘approved’ by Hague judges to be handed out, CERTAIN people have been ‘leaking’ verbally for months, and trying to make rumours to be ‘truths’ .
      Although maybe they knew what was coming anyway because they were involved?
      Now they are leaking in their pants, it seems.

  17. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Allah help lebanon!

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You can be sure if ‘Interpol’ has been given the necessary information, there is not more ‘secret’.
        If the people who first receive ‘reports’ to want to ‘leak’ them, then it’s not the STL’s fault … and in this case, before any report was even known to be ‘approved’ by Hague judges to be handed out, CERTAIN people have been ‘leaking’ verbally for months, and trying to make rumours to be ‘truths’ .
      Although maybe they knew what was coming anyway because they were involved?
      Now they are leaking in their pants, it seems.

  18. Joey Avatar
    Joey

    look at the faces on them criminals scam bags don;t know when the lebanese people will wake up and see what those people done before they did the killing they been stealing our money lets chase them and teach then a lesson by killing them and there damn family lets gas them and finish from there filth 

  19. Joey Avatar
    Joey

    look at the faces on them criminals scam bags don;t know when the lebanese people will wake up and see what those people done before they did the killing they been stealing our money lets chase them and teach then a lesson by killing them and there damn family lets gas them and finish from there filth 

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