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US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is accusing Iran of supporting its ally Syria in a brutal military crackdown on political opponents.

Clinton said Tuesday in a statement issued in Washington that Iran’s complicity in abuses is coinciding with the two-year anniversary of its crackdown on citizens who protested after the contested election that handed another term to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The statement didn’t go into details on the type of assistance Iran was providing Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime. Activists say more than 1,400 Syrians have died and some 10,000 detained since a popular uprising began in mid-March.

Clinton said Iranians and Syrians yearn to be free.

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72 responses to “Clinton accuses Iran of role in Syrian crackdown”

  1. Beiruti Avatar
    Beiruti

    Look lady, words are nothing without actions. We dont want to hear you and your American nonsense until you are going to act on it. Ever since the creation of humanity words are nothing without acting on them, just because you are the “Almighty America” your words still mean f all so buzz off until you are going to invade Syria the same way as Libya.

    1. Elinjaim Avatar
      Elinjaim

      Your language is too hard for Americans to understand. As secretary of State of the strongest country in the
      world, she’s just declaring her opinion not more not less. We, Americans, won’t allow our government to
      invade any other Muslim country. Iraq and Afghanistan and other experiences have proven to be desastrous
      and not affective. It’s much better to deal with those underground rats through our missiles and hit and run special
      forces. Rest assured we’ll not put boots on the ground of any Muslim country and we’ll not attack Iran or Syria
      unless they attack us or Israel. Unfortunately, over 60% of us, Americans, don’t like what Israel is doing against
      Arabs, but nothing we can do about it, as those Dollar-magnet Jews control over 50% of our economy.

      1. Sussy09 Avatar
        Sussy09

        “over 60% of us, Americans, don’t like what Israel is doing againstArabs, but nothing we can do about it, as those Dollar-magnet Jews control over 50% of our economy”.
        Frankly Elinjaim, From one American to another, This is nothing but a bunch of Lies, manipulations and B.S…. do you have anything in writing you can show to support this crap?
        i doubt it!
        Or better yet, Is the ‘Protocols’,  your book of choice for reading before bedtime?   it very much looks like, your ‘facts’ could be coming from there.. how low can one get? booo…

        1. Patience2 Avatar
          Patience2

          I’ve heard the United States of America spoken of as the Jewnited States of America.  Go figure.

        2. Amine123 Avatar
          Amine123

          You are right Sussy09. The Jewish Lobby took control of the congress and the politicians in America ($$$$) unfortunately the American people can do nothing about it.

          However Let’s blame the Arab government who are using Israel as a tool to control their people. Israel want the Syrian regime to stay, anyone wondered why? Mubarak was a puppet and almost everyone else in the region … It’s time for the people to wake up and liberate themselves first from those tyrant

      2. Sussy09 Avatar
        Sussy09

        “over 60% of us, Americans, don’t like what Israel is doing againstArabs, but nothing we can do about it, as those Dollar-magnet Jews control over 50% of our economy”.
        Frankly Elinjaim, From one American to another, This is nothing but a bunch of Lies, manipulations and B.S…. do you have anything in writing you can show to support this crap?
        i doubt it!
        Or better yet, Is the ‘Protocols’,  your book of choice for reading before bedtime?   it very much looks like, your ‘facts’ could be coming from there.. how low can one get? booo…

        1. Amine123 Avatar
          Amine123

          You are right Sussy09. The Jewish Lobby took control of the congress and the politicians in America ($$$$) unfortunately the American people can do nothing about it.

          However Let’s blame the Arab government who are using Israel as a tool to control their people. Israel want the Syrian regime to stay, anyone wondered why? Mubarak was a puppet and almost everyone else in the region … It’s time for the people to wake up and liberate themselves first from those tyrant

      3. eblashko Avatar
        eblashko

        You are a disgusting racist.

        And you’re also wrong.  A CNN poll from 3 days ago said:

        “A new poll conducted by American news network CNN has reported that 67
        percent of the American public feel sympathy for Israelis and not
        Palestinians, compared with 16% who claim to side with the Palestinians
        rather than Israel.”

        – a dollar-magnet Jew

        1. Mosetsfire Avatar
          Mosetsfire

          just because a poll says Americans support you more than Palestinians doesn’t make what you are doing correct or moral. As an American citizen I can tell you our support of Israel in its current state is the equivalent of supporting “separate but equal” which our supreme court ruled unconstitutional. 

          Second, Judaism is not a race, it is a religion. So the poster above cannot be considered racist. 

          Third, last I checked this was a Lebanese website, and while you are free to visit any website you like,  if you are looking for kind words here then you are sorely mistaken. Israel is our enemy. March 14th and March 8 are not in dispute about this matter, not even slightly. Until your country stops its aggression and war of propaganda against the Arab world you will always be our enemy. This is a reality you created, not us, so please don’t try and rebuke me with your hollow philanthropic “we only want to live in peace” bullshit. Your country’s military aspirations, and continued assault on the Palestinian people, as well as its occupation of the Golan and the Sheb3aa farms render all of your words a farce.

        2. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          @twitter-240724272:disqus 

          see above

        3. Elinjaim Avatar
          Elinjaim

          It looks like we have another Dollar-Magnet on this site. Yes Mr. Dollar, I’m against Jewish materialistic behavor.
          During my journey on this earth, I dealt with many Jewish lawyers and businessmen and at all times they have stolen
          my money. Certainly I got some back by court orders, but majority ran away or in prisons. You may say “You are anti-Samatic”, but you are wrong. I’m a devoted Christian and strongly believe in my Lord Jesus Christ whom you have killed and keep continue killing Him and His teachings millions of times per day. I do what He, bless thy name, said “love and forgive your neighbors, relatives and enemies.” I don’t hate anyone including the Jewish thieves.
          Can you tell us Mr. Dollar-magnet why you are stealing the Palestinians’ land in Westbank? Do you know that your stupid actions against Arabs have put this country in severe conflicts with the Muslim worlds and cost us thousands of precious lives and trillions of Dollars? Can you tell me why I have to pay to support Israel every year? So, cut your tongue and don’t call me racist, as I’m not, but a peace maker and seaker. Stop stealing Palestinians’ lands. Stop killing and terrorizing the Arabs. Stop suffocating Palestinians to force them to leave, so you can jump and steal their lands. Stop your aggressive behavior in the Land of Peace and in the world. We know that Protestants love you in America because of their belief in the Ancient Testament, and that’s why America is on your side. This doesn’t mean that all Americans love you and approve your acts. Rest assured that majority of people over here do not approve your way of stealing the lands and not obeying United Nations decisions. It is better for you to do not read my postings and do not communicate with me, as I don’t like to reduce my standard to your level.

          1. eblashko Avatar
            eblashko

            “Do you know that your stupid actions against Arabs have put this country
            in severe conflicts with the Muslim worlds and cost us thousands of
            precious lives and trillions of Dollars?”

            Ever hear of the phrase it takes 2 to tango? I don’t see any Arabs enthusiastic about solving the conflict.

            “Can you tell me why I have to pay to support Israel every year?”

            Because as I said, the overwhelming majority of Arabs support Israel.

            “Rest assured that majority of people over here do not approve your way
            of stealing the lands and not obeying United Nations decisions.”

            As I cited in my last response, the majority of people do approve of our ways. As far as honoring UN decisions, it was the UN who declared Israel a state in 1947. It was the Arabs states who disregarded it and declared war.

        4. Elinjaim Avatar
          Elinjaim

          It looks like we have another Dollar-Magnet on this site. Yes Mr. Dollar, I’m against Jewish materialistic behavor.
          During my journey on this earth, I dealt with many Jewish lawyers and businessmen and at all times they have stolen
          my money. Certainly I got some back by court orders, but majority ran away or in prisons. You may say “You are anti-Samatic”, but you are wrong. I’m a devoted Christian and strongly believe in my Lord Jesus Christ whom you have killed and keep continue killing Him and His teachings millions of times per day. I do what He, bless thy name, said “love and forgive your neighbors, relatives and enemies.” I don’t hate anyone including the Jewish thieves.
          Can you tell us Mr. Dollar-magnet why you are stealing the Palestinians’ land in Westbank? Do you know that your stupid actions against Arabs have put this country in severe conflicts with the Muslim worlds and cost us thousands of precious lives and trillions of Dollars? Can you tell me why I have to pay to support Israel every year? So, cut your tongue and don’t call me racist, as I’m not, but a peace maker and seaker. Stop stealing Palestinians’ lands. Stop killing and terrorizing the Arabs. Stop suffocating Palestinians to force them to leave, so you can jump and steal their lands. Stop your aggressive behavior in the Land of Peace and in the world. We know that Protestants love you in America because of their belief in the Ancient Testament, and that’s why America is on your side. This doesn’t mean that all Americans love you and approve your acts. Rest assured that majority of people over here do not approve your way of stealing the lands and not obeying United Nations decisions. It is better for you to do not read my postings and do not communicate with me, as I don’t like to reduce my standard to your level.

  2. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Look lady, words are nothing without actions. We dont want to hear you and your American nonsense until you are going to act on it. Ever since the creation of humanity words are nothing without acting on them, just because you are the “Almighty America” your words still mean f all so buzz off until you are going to invade Syria the same way as Libya.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Your language is too hard for Americans to understand. As secretary of State of the strongest country in the
      world, she’s just declaring her opinion not more not less. We, Americans, won’t allow our government to
      invade any other Muslim country. Iraq and Afghanistan and other experiences have proven to be desastrous
      and not affective. It’s much better to deal with those underground rats through our missiles and hit and run special
      forces. Rest assured we’ll not put boots on the ground of any Muslim country and we’ll not attack Iran or Syria
      unless they attack us or Israel. Unfortunately, over 60% of us, Americans, don’t like what Israel is doing against
      Arabs, but nothing we can do about it, as those Dollar-magnet Jews control over 50% of our economy.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        “over 60% of us, Americans, don’t like what Israel is doing againstArabs, but nothing we can do about it, as those Dollar-magnet Jews control over 50% of our economy”.
        Frankly Elinjaim, From one American to another, This is nothing but a bunch of Lies, and manipulations.. do you have anything in writing to support this crap?
        i doubt it!
        Or better yet, Is the ‘Protocols’,  your book of choice for reading before bedtime?   it very much looks like, your ‘facts’ could be coming from there.. booo…

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          I’ve heard the United States of America spoken of as the Jewnited States of America.  Go figure.

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          You are right Sussy09. The Jewish Lobby took control of the congress and the politicians in America ($$$$) unfortunately the American people can do nothing about it.

          However Let’s blame the Arab government who are using Israel as a tool to control their people. Israel want the Syrian regime to stay, anyone wondered why? Mubarak was a puppet and almost everyone else in the region … It’s time for the people to wake up and liberate themselves first from those tyrant

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        You are a disgusting racist.

        And you’re also wrong.  A CNN poll from 3 days ago said:

        “A new poll conducted by American news network CNN has reported that 67
        percent of the American public feel sympathy for Israelis and not
        Palestinians, compared with 16% who claim to side with the Palestinians
        rather than Israel.”

        – a dollar-magnet Jew

        1. Mohamad Masri Avatar
          Mohamad Masri

          just because a poll says Americans support you more than Palestinians doesn’t make what you are doing correct or moral. As an American citizen I can tell you our support of Israel in its current state is the equivalent of supporting “separate but equal” which our supreme court ruled unconstitutional. 

          Second, Judaism is not a race, it is a religion. So the poster above cannot be considered racist. 

          Third, last I checked this was a Lebanese website, and while you are free to visit any website you like,  if you are looking for kind words here then you are sorely mistaken. Israel is our enemy. March 14th and March 8 are not in dispute about this matter, not even slightly. Until your country stops its aggression and war of propaganda against the Arab world you will always be our enemy. This is a reality you created, not us, so please don’t try and rebuke me with your hollow philanthropic “we only want to live in peace” bullshit. Your country’s military aspirations, and continued assault on the Palestinian people, as well as its occupation of the Golan and the Sheb3aa farms render all of your words a farce.

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          @twitter-240724272:disqus 

          I don’t think what Israel is doing is morally right either. I was just pointing out that Elinjaim was factually wrong when he said the 60% of American citizens oppose Israel.

          Judaism is a religion, but Jews are a race. Anti-semitism is called anti-semitism because Jews are semites. Genetics, language, culture, and history all prove this. Zionism is a secular movement. Calling Jews only a religious group and not an ethic group is a sorry attempt to delegitimize Jewish claim to ancestrally Jewish land.

          This is a Lebanese website, but I was simply responding to Elinjaim’s accusations, falsities, and RACEism (dollar-magnet jews?!?) Check every post I’ve ever made here. Nowhere have I ever said anything negative or spiteful about Lebanon. You’ll only find praise.

          As far as the Sheba, like I told Kareem yesterday, not even one Lebanese politician has ever offered peace in exchange for the Sheba farms. So before you go criticizing Israel for occupying it, why not criticize Lebanon for not giving us any reason to give it back. Especially because last time we left Lebanese land, all we got was kidnappings and rockets in return.

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          It looks like we have another Dollar-Magnet on this site. Yes Mr. Dollar, I’m against Jewish materialistic behavor.
          During my journey on this earth, I dealt with many Jewish lawyers and businessmen and at all times they have stolen
          my money. Certainly I got some back by court orders, but majority ran away or in prisons. You may say “You are anti-Samatic”, but you are wrong. I’m a devoted Christian and strongly believe in my Lord Jesus Christ whom you have killed and keep continue killing Him and His teachings millions of times per day. I do what He, bless thy name, said “love and forgive your neighbors, relatives and enemies.” I don’t hate anyone including the Jewish thieves.
          Can you tell us Mr. Dollar-magnet why you are stealing the Palestinians’ land in Westbank? Do you know that your stupid actions against Arabs have put this country in severe conflicts with the Muslim worlds and cost us thousands of precious lives and trillions of Dollars? Can you tell me why I have to pay to support Israel every year? So, cut your tongue and don’t call me racist, as I’m not, but a peace maker and seaker. Stop stealing Palestinians’ lands. Stop killing and terrorizing the Arabs. Stop suffocating Palestinians to force them to leave, so you can jump and steal their lands. Stop your aggressive behavior in the Land of Peace and in the world. We know that Protestants love you in America because of their belief in the Ancient Testament, and that’s why America is on your side. This doesn’t mean that all Americans love you and approve your acts. Rest assured that majority of people over here do not approve your way of stealing the lands and not obeying United Nations decisions. It is better for you to do not read my postings and do not communicate with me, as I don’t like to reduce my standard to your level.

          1. Avatar
            Anonymous

            “Do you know that your stupid actions against Arabs have put this country
            in severe conflicts with the Muslim worlds and cost us thousands of
            precious lives and trillions of Dollars?”

            Ever hear of the phrase it takes 2 to tango? I don’t see any Arabs enthusiastic about solving the conflict.

            “Can you tell me why I have to pay to support Israel every year?”

            Because as I said, the overwhelming majority of Arabs support Israel.

            “Rest assured that majority of people over here do not approve your way
            of stealing the lands and not obeying United Nations decisions.”

            As I cited in my last response, the majority of people do approve of our ways. As far as honoring UN decisions, it was the UN who declared Israel a state in 1947. It was the Arabs states who disregarded it and declared war.

          2. Avatar
            Anonymous

            “Do you know that your stupid actions against Arabs have put this country
            in severe conflicts with the Muslim worlds and cost us thousands of
            precious lives and trillions of Dollars?”

            Ever hear of the phrase it takes 2 to tango? I don’t see any Arabs enthusiastic about solving the conflict.

            “Can you tell me why I have to pay to support Israel every year?”

            Because as I said, the overwhelming majority of Arabs support Israel.

            “Rest assured that majority of people over here do not approve your way
            of stealing the lands and not obeying United Nations decisions.”

            As I cited in my last response, the majority of people do approve of our ways. As far as honoring UN decisions, it was the UN who declared Israel a state in 1947. It was the Arabs states who disregarded it and declared war.

  3. Elinjaim Avatar
    Elinjaim

    So what? they are allies and Iran has more experience than Bashar in killing their citizens…

  4. Elinjaim Avatar
    Elinjaim

    So what? they are allies and Iran has more experience than Bashar in killing their citizens…

  5. Avatar
    Anonymous

    So what? they are allies and Iran has more experience than Bashar in killing their citizens…

  6. L M Avatar
    L M

    It appears that the US is losing big times in the Middle-east under Obama’s administration at the present time. The Syrian regime is currently exploiting the Obama’s lack of decissiveness in the international arena. As such, the Syrian regime decided to crush its opposition in Syria while ushering Hizbullah and Mikati to form the Lebanese cabinet; so that the syrian regime can count on to face the international community in the months ahead. This in fact will definitely have significant repercussions on both Syria and Lebanon. Watch for Lebanon to sink alogside the syrian regime no later than the end of this year.       

    1. Elinjaim Avatar
      Elinjaim

      You are right LM, this administration is playing (show-up) game and using one Arab against the other. Yes again,
      we are closely watching for the government of Lebanon to fall into the sinkhole alongside Syria in upcoming months.
      Who’s benefitting from this fiasco? Surely the American closest ally ISRAEL. Neither Israel nor this American Administration gives a damn about all arabs. I smile when I see American official shaking hands with Arabs leaders. They smile at you and stab you in the back. Frankly we’ve elected Barack Hussein Obama on the hope that he would do what he said in his book “Audacity of Hope” and fairly balance American’s policy between the Arabs and Israel, but he failed us miserably. I don’t think we can depend on America to help us get back what rightfully belongs to us. Right or wrong America is friend for Israel only not for Arabs. We offerred the best peace deal to Israel and the world at 2002 Arabs leaders meeting in Beirut. You know that America didn’t comment on it and Israel rejected it within an hour of its date. Simply, Israel doesn’t want peace.

  7. L M Avatar
    L M

    It appears that the US is losing big times in the Middle-east under Obama’s administration at the present time. The Syrian regime is currently exploiting the Obama’s lack of decissiveness in the international arena. As such, the Syrian regime decided to crush its opposition in Syria while ushering Hizbullah and Mikati to form the Lebanese cabinet; so that the syrian regime can count on to face the international community in the months ahead. This in fact will definitely have significant repercussions on both Syria and Lebanon. Watch for Lebanon to sink alogside the syrian regime no later than the end of this year.       

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You are right LM, this administration is playing (show-up) game and using one Arab against the other. Yes again,
      we are closely watching for the government of Lebanon to fall into the sinkhole alongside Syria in upcoming months.
      Who’s benefitting from this fiasco? Surely the American closest ally ISRAEL. Neither Israel nor this American Administration gives a damn about all arabs. I smile when I see American official shaking hands with Arabs leaders. They smile at you and stab you in the back. Frankly we’ve elected Barack Hussein Obama on the hope that he would do what he said in his book “Audacity of Hope” and fairly balance American’s policy between the Arabs and Israel, but he failed us miserably. I don’t think we can depend on America to help us get back what rightfully belongs to us. Right or wrong America is friend for Israel only not for Arabs. We offerred the best peace deal to Israel and the world at 2002 Arabs leaders meeting in Beirut. You know that America didn’t comment on it and Israel rejected it within an hour of its date. Simply, Israel doesn’t want peace.

  8. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    and what are you doing about it , a holocaust agaisnt the Syrian people is taking place and the USA Obama is watching and doing what the Jews are telling him, keep Bashar as he’s good for Israel

    1. leciat Avatar
      leciat

      what is the “muslim world” doing about it? are they also doing what the jews are telling them?

      1. Mosetsfire Avatar
        Mosetsfire

        No one disputes the Leaders in the Muslim world are inept. This is the effect of colonization. Keep in mind that these Arab countries were not formed the same way the State of Israel was created. Colonial powers installed dictatorships on their way out of the Middle East after World War II to continue pushing forward their interests in the region. 

        It will take several generations to remove the effects of post WW2 colonization from the Middle East but rest assured it will happen. (The same phenomena can be seen in Blacks in the US, after segregation was outlawed we have seen positive trends in the Black community regarding a decrease in crime, an increase in voting and collegiate admission.)

        1. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          In response to your post below:

          I don’t think some of what Israel is doing in the territories is morally right either. I was just pointing out that Elinjaim was factually wrong when he said the 60% of American citizens oppose Israel.

          Judaism is a religion, but Jews are a race. Anti-semitism is called anti-semitism because Jews are semites. Genetics, language, culture, and history all prove this. Zionism is a secular movement. Calling Jews only a religious group and not an ethic group is a sorry attempt to delegitimize Jewish claim to ancestrally Jewish land.

          This is a Lebanese website, but I was simply responding to Elinjaim’s accusations, falsities, and RACEism (dollar-magnet jews?!?) Check every post I’ve ever made here. Nowhere have I ever said anything negative or spiteful about Lebanon. You’ll only find praise.

          Israeli treatment of its Arabs is not “separate but equal”. Arabs have exactly the same rights that Jews have in Israel. Arabic is an official language. The faculty where I study for example is about 1/2 Jewish and 1/2 Arab. A far cry from the separate water fountains and bathrooms in the separate-but-equal American South prior to the Civil Rights movement. (Speaking of the civil rights movement, you should read one of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s lesser known speeches, “Anti-Zionism=Anti-Semitism”).

          Actually, it’s unequal, because while Arabs and Jews both enjoy equal rights in Israel, Arabs don’t have to devote 3 years of their lives to the state in the form of the army like the rest of us, while enjoying the perks of citizenship. Talk about unfair treatment!

          To your accusations about us having “started it”, I’ll say that Arabs were unwilling to make peace with Israel long before any land was occupied, and long before Israel even became a state. Read up on the riots of 1920, 1929, and 1936, in which the “Palestinians” (who then called themselves South Syrians) butchered and massacred their newly-arrived Jewish cousins from the diaspora.

          As far as the Sheba, like I told Kareem yesterday, not even one Lebanese politician has ever offered peace in exchange for the Sheba farms. So before you go criticizing Israel for occupying it, why not criticize Lebanon for not giving us any reason to give it back. Especially because last time we left Lebanese land, all we got was kidnappings and rockets in return.

        2. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          In response to your post below:

          I don’t think some of what Israel is doing in the territories is morally right either. I was just pointing out that Elinjaim was factually wrong when he said the 60% of American citizens oppose Israel.

          Judaism is a religion, but Jews are a race. Anti-semitism is called anti-semitism because Jews are semites. Genetics, language, culture, and history all prove this. Zionism is a secular movement. Calling Jews only a religious group and not an ethic group is a sorry attempt to delegitimize Jewish claim to ancestrally Jewish land.

          This is a Lebanese website, but I was simply responding to Elinjaim’s accusations, falsities, and RACEism (dollar-magnet jews?!?) Check every post I’ve ever made here. Nowhere have I ever said anything negative or spiteful about Lebanon. You’ll only find praise.

          Israeli treatment of its Arabs is not “separate but equal”. Arabs have exactly the same rights that Jews have in Israel. Arabic is an official language. The faculty where I study for example is about 1/2 Jewish and 1/2 Arab. A far cry from the separate water fountains and bathrooms in the separate-but-equal American South prior to the Civil Rights movement. (Speaking of the civil rights movement, you should read one of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s lesser known speeches, “Anti-Zionism=Anti-Semitism”).

          Actually, it’s unequal, because while Arabs and Jews both enjoy equal rights in Israel, Arabs don’t have to devote 3 years of their lives to the state in the form of the army like the rest of us, while enjoying the perks of citizenship. Talk about unfair treatment!

          To your accusations about us having “started it”, I’ll say that Arabs were unwilling to make peace with Israel long before any land was occupied, and long before Israel even became a state. Read up on the riots of 1920, 1929, and 1936, in which the “Palestinians” (who then called themselves South Syrians) butchered and massacred their newly-arrived Jewish cousins from the diaspora.

          As far as the Sheba, like I told Kareem yesterday, not even one Lebanese politician has ever offered peace in exchange for the Sheba farms. So before you go criticizing Israel for occupying it, why not criticize Lebanon for not giving us any reason to give it back. Especially because last time we left Lebanese land, all we got was kidnappings and rockets in return.

        3. leciat Avatar
          leciat

          and i am not disputing that the middle east is still suffering from the effects of coloniztion i am disputing that the usa is a puppet of israel. that said, the people of the “muslim world” will have to make the changes needed not the usa

        4. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          Mubarak, Assad, Ghadaffi… none of them were colonially installed dictators. All of them are of regimes which toppled colonially installed dictators. The fox blames the trap, not himself.

    2. eblashko Avatar
      eblashko

      I don’t know where this rumor comes from that we think Bashar is good for Israel. He arms Hezbollah. We in Israel hate him, And we are all rooting for the Syrian people.

      Our foreign minister has been an outspoken critic of the world’s hypocrisy for intervening in Libya and not Syria.

      The reason they’re not intervening is that while Libya is just filled with Libyans, who are all Bedouin Muslims, in Syria, you have Christians, Druze, Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, Assyrians, Kurds, Armenians, and Circassians. So intervantion, like in Iraq, could lead to sectarian strife. Not only that, but while intervention in Libya is largely confined only to Libya, intervention in Syria could also have obvious effects on Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, Turkey, and could fuel ideals such as Kurdish nationalism.

      1. Mosetsfire Avatar
        Mosetsfire

        All of those men came to power in military coups.

        Also, I’m not defending the Arabs. If they had a shred of dignity they would sanction the west until its unilateral support of Israel ends and a fair deal is reached.

        1. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          Who do you think that would hurt more? You or them?

          Typical martyr mentality.

          I guess that’s the difference between Jews and Arabs. You place value on dignity, and we place it on practicality. That’s probably why there’s an Israel today but no Palestine. Jews have agreed to every partition plan ever proposed (1936, 1947, 1967, 2000, 2008) while Arabs have rejected every partition plan ever proposed.

          Problem with most Arabs, (which is the same problem the Jewish settlers have) is that neither ever realize that it’s better to live in some of your homeland than in none of it.

        2. Mosetsfire Avatar
          Mosetsfire

          It’s not martyrdom. Economic Sanctions are the peaceful alternative to an intifada. And you and I have had discussions before. I am not against an Israeli state, I am against that state occupying the West Bank and Gaza.

          and your prime minister said IN FRONT OF CONGRESS that 1967 borders were not an option. Cmon man you gotta pull your head out of the sand. 

        3. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          Dude, I don’t like Netanyahu. Many Israelis don’t. I want peace and I have no problem giving land for it. I think the settlement enterprise is is not only unnecessary but also counter productive to the original Zionist goals.

          But you should ask yourself why, after 5 years of left-wing, pro-peace government in Israel, was Netanyahu elected here in a free and fair election. In 2008, Olmert offered Abu Mazen everything he asked for: the 1967 borders with 1:1 swaps, division of Jerusalem, and an end to the conflict. Of course, as always, the Arabs said no.

          Although disappointing, I personally would never get discouraged. In my opinion, not solving the conflict is not an option. You have to understand though that if you ask the average Israeli on the street, they’ll say “the peace process is dead, the Arabs will never stop the resistance. We hold out our hand in goodwill and they bite our fingers. We gave Gaza and S. Lebanon as goodwill. We got only rockets and kidnappings in return. We might as well have a strong leader who’ll protect us from Arabs rather than one who bends over to them, like Olmert.” And in Netanyahu’s defense, these past two years have been the most quiet and safest years in Israel in a long time.

          I say it all the time on this site. Don’t blame Israelis for how they vote if you don’t give them a more appealing option. Every Gaza rocket sends one more Israeli to Netanyahu. Every Nasrallah speech send one more Israeli to Lieberman. You want us to vote left? You want us to give up land? Give us a reason to trust you.

          In 1979, Anwar Sadat decided that the price of peace was worth the return of the Sinai to Egypt. On his own initiative, he courageously came to Jerusalem to negotiate with Menachem Begin. It was one of the most important days in our history, and in our country, Anwar Sadat, once a war criminal who initiated the diabolical Yom-Kippur War in 1973, immediately became a national hero with statues and streets named after him all over the country.

          With this genuine gesture of peace, Israel was happy to return the Sinai to Egypt, which meant dismantling the dozens Israeli of settlements there and evacuating the tens of thousands of Israeli settlers (further proof that settlements are not an obstacle for peace). Even Begin, the most right-wing Israeli prime minister to date, who declared only months earlier that “we will never leave the Sinai” was forced by Israeli public opinion to concede and make peace.

          No other leader in the Arab world has ever been willing to strongly and clearly give the Israelis reason not to fear giving up land for the hope of peace. And that’s why it hasn’t happened since. Israeli occupation isn’t the source of the problem. It’s the result.

      2. In_a_Mosh Avatar
        In_a_Mosh

        ablashko says:
        Who do you think that would hurt more? You or them? Typical martyr mentality. I guess that’s the difference between Jews and Arabs. You place value on dignity, and we place it on practicality. That’s probably why there’s an Israel today but no Palestine. Jews have agreed to every partition plan ever proposed (1936, 1947, 1967, 2000, 2008) while Arabs have rejected every partition plan ever proposed. Problem with most Arabs, (which is the same problem the Jewish settlers have) is that neither ever realize that it’s better to live in some of your homeland than in none of it.

        your assessment isn’t far off there. as a person of lebanese heritage, i can put it even more simply: an Arab person (including lebanese) would rather look good and loose whereas a Jew would rather look bad and win. sounds simple but its true. and since I changed my motto to “look bad and win” I became a dollar magnet like all my jewish friends. I am not trying to offend anyone peple, I’m merely stating an opinion.     

        1. eblashko Avatar
          eblashko

          Welcome to the tribe 😉

  9. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    and what are you doing about it , a holocaust agaisnt the Syrian people is taking place and the USA Obama is watching and doing what the Jews are telling him, keep Bashar as he’s good for Israel

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      what is the “muslim world” doing about it? are they also doing what the jews are telling them?

      1. Mohamad Masri Avatar
        Mohamad Masri

        No one disputes the Leaders in the Muslim world are inept. This is the effect of colonization. Keep in mind that these Arab countries were not formed the same way the State of Israel was created. Colonial powers installed dictatorships on their way out of the Middle East after World War II to continue pushing forward their interests in the region. 

        It will take several generations to remove the effects of post WW2 colonization from the Middle East but rest assured it will happen. (The same phenomena can be seen in Blacks in the US, after segregation was outlawed we have seen positive trends in the Black community regarding a decrease in crime, an increase in voting and collegiate admission.)

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          Anonymous

          In response to your post below:

          I don’t think what Israel is doing is morally right either. I was just pointing out that Elinjaim was factually wrong when he said the 60% of American citizens oppose Israel.

          Judaism is a religion, but Jews are a race. Anti-semitism is called anti-semitism because Jews are semites. Genetics, language, culture, and history all prove this. Zionism is a secular movement. Calling Jews only a religious group and not an ethic group is a sorry attempt to delegitimize Jewish claim to ancestrally Jewish land.

          This is a Lebanese website, but I was simply responding to Elinjaim’s accusations, falsities, and RACEism (dollar-magnet jews?!?) Check every post I’ve ever made here. Nowhere have I ever said anything negative or spiteful about Lebanon. You’ll only find praise.

          As far as the Sheba, like I told Kareem yesterday, not even one Lebanese politician has ever offered peace in exchange for the Sheba farms. So before you go criticizing Israel for occupying it, why not criticize Lebanon for not giving us any reason to give it back. Especially because last time we left Lebanese land, all we got was kidnappings and rockets in return.

          Israeli treatment of its Arabs isn’t separate but equal. Arabs have exactly the same rights as Jews have in Israel. Actually, it’s unequal, because while Arabs and Jews both enjoy equal rights in Israel, Arabs don’t have to devote 3 years of their lives to the state in the form of the army like the rest of us, while enjoying the perks of citizenship. Talk about unfair treatment!

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          Anonymous

          and i am not disputing that the middle east is still suffering from the effects of coloniztion i am disputing that the usa is a puppet of israel. that said, the people of the “muslim world” will have to make the changes needed not the usa

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          Anonymous

          and i am not disputing that the middle east is still suffering from the effects of coloniztion i am disputing that the usa is a puppet of israel. that said, the people of the “muslim world” will have to make the changes needed not the usa

        4. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Mubarak, Assad, Ghadaffi… none of them were colonially installed dictators. All of them are of regimes which toppled colonially installed dictators. The fox blames the trap, not himself.

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          Anonymous

          Mubarak, Assad, Ghadaffi… none of them were colonially installed dictators. All of them are of regimes which toppled colonially installed dictators. The fox blames the trap, not himself.

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      Anonymous

      I don’t know where this rumor comes from that we think Bashar is good for Israel. He arms Hezbollah. We in Israel hate him, And we are all rooting for the Syrian people.

      Our foreign minister has been an outspoken critic of the world’s hypocrisy for intervening in Libya and not Syria.

      The reason they’re not intervening is that while Libya is just filled with Libyans, who are all Bedouin Muslims, in Syria, you have Christians, Druze, Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, Assyrians, Kurds, Armenians, and Circassians. So intervantion, like in Iraq, could lead to sectarian strife. Not only that, but while intervention in Libya is largely confined only to Libya, intervention in Syria could also have obvious effects on Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, Turkey, and could fuel ideals such as Kurdish nationalism.

      1. Mohamad Masri Avatar
        Mohamad Masri

        All of those men came to power in military coups.

        Also, I’m not defending the Arabs. If they had a shred of dignity they would sanction the west until its unilateral support of Israel ends and a fair deal is reached.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Who do you think that would hurt more? You or them?

        2. Mohamad Masri Avatar
          Mohamad Masri

          It’s not martyrdom. Economic Sanctions are the peaceful alternative to an intifada. And you and I have had discussions before. I am not against an Israeli state, I am against that state occupying the West Bank and Gaza.

          and your prime minister said IN FRONT OF CONGRESS that 1967 borders were not an option. Cmon man you gotta pull your head out of the sand. 

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Dude, I don’t like Netanyahu. Many Israelis don’t. I want peace and I have no problem giving land for it. I think the settlement enterprise is is not only unnecessary but also counter productive to the original Zionist goals.

          But you should ask yourself why, after 5 years of left-wing, pro-peace government in Israel, was Netanyahu elected here in a free and fair election. In 2008, Olmert offered Abu Mazen everything he asked for: the 1967 borders with 1:1 swaps, division of Jerusalem, and an end to the conflict. Of course, as always, the Arabs said no.

          Although disappointing, I personally would never get discouraged. In my opinion, not solving the conflict is not an option. You have to understand though that if you ask the average Israeli on the street, they’ll say “the peace process is dead, the Arabs will never stop the resistance. We hold out our hand in goodwill and they bite our fingers. We gave Gaza and S. Lebanon as goodwill. We got only rockets and kidnappings in return. We might as well have a strong leader who’ll protect us from Arabs rather than one who bends over to them, like Olmert.” And in Netanyahu’s defense, these past two years have been the most quiet and safest years in Israel in a long time.

          I say it all the time on this site. Don’t blame Israelis for how they vote if you don’t give them a more appealing option. Every Gaza rocket sends one more Israeli to Netanyahu. Every Nasrallah speech send one more Israeli to Lieberman. You want us to vote left? You want us to give up land? Give us a reason to trust you.

          In 1979, Anwar Sadat decided that the price of peace was worth the return of the Sinai to Egypt. On his own initiative, he courageously came to Jerusalem to negotiate with Menachem Begin. It was one of the most important days in our history, and in our country, Anwar Sadat, once a war criminal who initiated the diabolical Yom-Kippur War in 1973, immediately became a national hero with statues and streets named after him all over the country.

          With this genuine gesture of peace, Israel was happy to return the Sinai to Egypt, which meant dismantling the dozens Israeli of settlements there and evacuating the tens of thousands of Israeli settlers (further proof that settlements are not an obstacle for peace). Even Begin, the most right-wing Israeli prime minister to date, who declared only months earlier that “we will never leave the Sinai” was forced by Israeli public opinion to concede and make peace.

          No other leader in the Arab world has ever been willing to strongly and clearly give the Israelis reason not to fear giving up land for the hope of peace. And that’s why it hasn’t happened since. Israeli occupation isn’t the source of the problem. It’s the result.

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        ablashko says:
        Who do you think that would hurt more? You or them? Typical martyr mentality. I guess that’s the difference between Jews and Arabs. You place value on dignity, and we place it on practicality. That’s probably why there’s an Israel today but no Palestine. Jews have agreed to every partition plan ever proposed (1936, 1947, 1967, 2000, 2008) while Arabs have rejected every partition plan ever proposed. Problem with most Arabs, (which is the same problem the Jewish settlers have) is that neither ever realize that it’s better to live in some of your homeland than in none of it.

        your assessment isn’t far off there. as a person of lebanese heritage, i can put it even more simply: an Arab person (including lebanese) would rather look good and loose whereas a Jew would rather look bad and win. sounds simple but its true. and since I changed my motto to “look bad and win” I became a dollar magnet like all my jewish friends. I am not trying to offend anyone peple, I’m merely stating an opinion.     

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        ablashko says:
        Who do you think that would hurt more? You or them? Typical martyr mentality. I guess that’s the difference between Jews and Arabs. You place value on dignity, and we place it on practicality. That’s probably why there’s an Israel today but no Palestine. Jews have agreed to every partition plan ever proposed (1936, 1947, 1967, 2000, 2008) while Arabs have rejected every partition plan ever proposed. Problem with most Arabs, (which is the same problem the Jewish settlers have) is that neither ever realize that it’s better to live in some of your homeland than in none of it.

        your assessment isn’t far off there. as a person of lebanese heritage, i can put it even more simply: an Arab person (including lebanese) would rather look good and loose whereas a Jew would rather look bad and win. sounds simple but its true. and since I changed my motto to “look bad and win” I became a dollar magnet like all my jewish friends. I am not trying to offend anyone peple, I’m merely stating an opinion.     

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          Anonymous

          Welcome to the tribe 😉

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          Anonymous

          Welcome to the tribe 😉

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Welcome to the tribe 😉

  10. leciat Avatar
    leciat

    Mohamad Masri   says
     
    “As an American citizen I can tell you our support of Israel in its current state is the equivalent of supporting “separate but equal” which our supreme court ruled unconstitutional.”
     
    “Third, last I checked this was a Lebanese website, and while you are free to visit any website you like,  if you are looking for kind words here then you are sorely mistaken”
     
    hmmm interesting….a lebanese American who considers himself Lebanese first and American second no doubt. (and then wonders why muslim immigrants are not trusted)

    1. Mosetsfire Avatar
      Mosetsfire

      How do you come to that conclusion? I am an American and a Lebanese and I do not rank my nationalities. My loyalties lie with my principles.

      How many Jews in the diaspora donate money to Israel? Does that put Israeli interests above the interests of their respective countries? Your logic is flawed. Please come at me with facts that can be spoken to, instead of baseless attacks.

    2. Beiruti Avatar
      Beiruti

      How about you shut up? Go to CNN where you belong, and you can enjoy your racist jokes with all your racist friends. Go ahead call us sand niggers, camel jockeys, and terrorists, but on CNN. Dont come on this site and start commenting on someones nationality and questioning their loyalty to America. You never met the guy so dont judge the guy, filthy shit.

  11. leciat Avatar
    leciat

    Mohamad Masri   says
     
    “As an American citizen I can tell you our support of Israel in its current state is the equivalent of supporting “separate but equal” which our supreme court ruled unconstitutional.”
     
    “Third, last I checked this was a Lebanese website, and while you are free to visit any website you like,  if you are looking for kind words here then you are sorely mistaken”
     
    hmmm interesting….a lebanese American who considers himself Lebanese first and American second no doubt. (and then wonders why muslim immigrants are not trusted)

  12. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Mohamad Masri   says
     
    “As an American citizen I can tell you our support of Israel in its current state is the equivalent of supporting “separate but equal” which our supreme court ruled unconstitutional.”
     
    “Third, last I checked this was a Lebanese website, and while you are free to visit any website you like,  if you are looking for kind words here then you are sorely mistaken”
     
    hmmm interesting….a lebanese American who considers himself Lebanese first and American second no doubt. (and then wonders why muslim immigrants are not trusted)

    1. Mohamad Masri Avatar
      Mohamad Masri

      How do you come to that conclusion? I am an American and a Lebanese and I do not rank my nationalities. My loyalties lie with my principles.

      How many Jews in the diaspora donate money to Israel? Does that put Israeli interests above the interests of their respective countries? Your logic is flawed. Please come at me with facts that can be spoken to, instead of baseless attacks.

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      How about you shut up? Go to CNN where you belong, and you can enjoy your racist jokes with all your racist friends. Go ahead call us sand niggers, camel jockeys, and terrorists, but on CNN. Dont come on this site and start commenting on someones nationality and questioning their loyalty to America. You never met the guy so dont judge the guy, filthy shit.

  13. leciat Avatar
    leciat

    oh an by the way, i am american american, meaning my “roots” are german, polish, english, black, american indian, and for all i know lebanese ( so i guess i can claim all these nationalities on all forums around the world)…you know the great melting pot that is the foundation of america….lebanese american, chinese american, african american so forth and so on is ethnic segregation not a melting pot

  14. Avatar
    Anonymous

    oh an by the way, i am american american, meaning my “roots” are german, polish, english, black, american indian, and for all i know lebanese ( so i guess i can claim all these nationalities on all forums around the world)…you know the great melting pot that is the foundation of america….lebanese american, chinese american, african american so forth and so on is ethnic segregation not a melting pot

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