Hariri: Our future is the hostage of the non-state arms

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Caretaker PM Saad Hariri urged the Lebanese during a speech at Qoreitem on Friday to participate in the Sunday rally marking the 6th anniversary of the Cedar Revolution.

The Cedar Revolution erupted on March 14 2005 , one month following assassination of Lebanon’s former PM Rafik Hariri .

Here are the highlights of his speech:

-“On March 14 we remember the martyred PM and all the martyrs of the Cedar Revolution and all the causes that they died for.”

Commenting on the non-state weapons , the key issue in his speech today he said:

-“You all know as well as I do that the silent majority, which is the absolute majority in Lebanon knows the importance of standing against the non-state arms.”

– “We all know all the ereas where the arms were used to threaten us, there is no need to remind this majority about the issue of non-state arms.”

– ” They say to the Lebanese people, ‘What can you do against arms and violence? We tell them that they should know that victory with arms is the greatest of defeats. The arms will fail before those who broke the wall of fear in 2005 and destroyed what they have been dreaming of for 30 years.”

-“You, the Lebanese people, are right, and those in the right do not need weapons, all you need is the minds and hearts of all the Lebanese people.”

-” We don’t want any arms except those of the Lebanese state. The decision to go to war will rest in the hands of the state and no one will defend Lebanon except the army.”

-“We did not fall in the arms trap, and we won’t fall. We do not accept the use of violence in political life. “

Addressing Hezbollah without mentioning the group’s name he said: “Those fearing the truth need arms”, and added

“I want to ask you this question: Why are you afraid of the truth? The use of arms will not be of any help against the truth, the one who fears people knowing the truth fears the people as well.”

“They are afraid to find out who killed Rafik Hariri “

Addressing the needs and aspirations of the Lebanese people, he said:

“The Lebanese people want the right to education, work, creativity, security, development and realizing the dreams of freedom of all the martyrs, without violence and arms.”

Addressing the Lebanese Shiites he said :” We are not just partners in the same country because we have been and always will be partners in blood. We have sought reconciliation because no one among us is working against the Shiites.”

“The Shiites in Lebanon were the first who rose up against the use of weapons.

Was it not Imam Mohammad Mehdi Shamseddine who banned the use of arms by any Lebanese against his Lebanese brother? A day will come where I will tell you what Imam Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah used to tell me.”

“Was it not the Shiites who asked for sovereignty of the state in the South? Did not Imam Moussa Sadr rally against strife, war and non-state arms?”

“We commit to Imam Shamseddine’s declaration and Imam Sadr’s rejection of arms. Don’t get carried away with claims and rest assured that no statelet can take the place of the Lebanese state and our democratic system.”

He concluded his speech by talking about the rally : “Our future is the hostage of the arms and we will declare this on Sunday ( March13) and continue on saying it until Lebanon is victorious…. this year we will meet at the square to impose the Lebanese people’s will in a modern and ethical way with only the Lebanese flag….You will make your voice heard by those who do not want Lebanon to be a state, you will tell the world that your dignity and your dreams are not for sale or compromise…The Lebanese people know that silence is the same as the fear, your voice will rise on Sunday higher than fear, so the fear will be silenced and freedom will win.”

-Your decision is in your hands, we will rally on Sunday to say no to non-state arms. We will rally to support the government in making war and peace decisions because no one can defend Lebanon except the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) under the supervision of the government and its will.

-Our army is responsible for the South. The LAF fights the Israeli enemy, and we will support it in defending Lebanon against the Israeli army.

-We have no problem with arms against Israel, but we want these arms to belong to the state because it is the only way to prohibit them from turning against the Lebanese people.

-The problem is not with resisting Israel, but with using the arms domestically. We tell them that the days of blackmailing the Taif Accord have ended. Let them remember that the Taif Accord is built on the independence of the state and the monopoly of arms.

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  1. Honestly, I do not want to offend anyone. But how can someone still take this person seriously? Just because his father is a martyr? Lebanon has a thousend martyrs. Or do some people feel sympathy because he is allegedly a Sunni? Aren’t there many sunnis who are more brave, less corrupt and less dependent on the US and KSA in lebanon? Or is it only because he is against Hezbollah? Is it really the objective of lebanese to be and to act against something instead of to be and to act for something? Please tell me! Please tell me without getting to emotional and with arguments full of content! I beg you!

    1. M.A.

      Dont hold ur breath to get any answers u wont…no one ever answers my question,and thn hit me,
      how can they answer questions that would incrimnate there beliefs or ideolgies without lying,
      like for example how can anyone listen to this bum whn he was in power he was pro HA weapons,
      and even made them part of the people army and resistance equation,and now that 8 azar through him
      out like the dog he is look how he is talking,how can anyone beleive what he is saying,it reminds me of a guy
      that knows a hot girl but thinks he has no chance with her like ever, and keeps calling her a whore,until one day he found out she wanted him and he married her,and how ses no shes not a whore i was misunderstood about her,u see in life u can make anything come to ur defense if u eventually beleive ur own lies,and with harriri he is failing miserably,
      he is that guy that had power and watched it get stripped it from him,u see dont get me wrong harriri always hated HA,syria and Iran,but when it gave him power he didnt mind them…now that he lost power look how he is talking,if he was this passionatly as he is showing the last 2 weeks to be against HA arms why didnt he do something about it whn he had power in parlimant to do something bout it,ill tell u why its because he loved the power….now he just sounds like a girl that has been scorned after seeing her man with another women….just listen to him speak and u can feel his anger of humilation,the end of harriri is near and 14 azar is bankrupt…notice one thing though guys and gals,as much as 14 azar is pushing for a fight and insulting the classy 8 azar leaders and org,not one time have they even responded to any negativity towards them,and this is the old school lesson of the winner stays quiet while the sore loser pouts…
      and finally with all these speeches from harririi this week,and geagea and hamade and all the other lap dogs,what are they gonna save for the big ralllllllllllly on sunday that will generate 2 million people according to geagea,save some talk for sunday boys….or is it all gonna be repetitive from this week….one word….BORINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG…..
      her,and how ses no shes not a whore i was misunderstood about her,u see in life u can make anything

      1. Michael? I thought I read a post of yours saying you were done with yalibnan? I suppose you had a change of heart. ..the rally this Sunday will be filled with beautiful smilling faces waving Lebanese flags, not flags of AK’s and wearing black like your forces of oppression lol…I hope all you March 8 folks are ready to be shit on this Sunday.

        1. Fadi81,

          I had a change of heart just like your leader Harriri did ;).and were gonna get shit on?…common man a little more class bro…but u know what this is what ur leaders teach u so im not mad…Thanks Fadi I hope tommorows rally is a success for u guys,cause after this ur excitement will be over…I hope it doesnt snow..;)

        2. Michael, look man nothing personal alright. When I say M8 supporters will be shit on I really mean it bro. Its a figure of speech btw. How can you argue logic with primitive people such as these die hard M8 leaders, you cant because most of them are Ideolagical fanatics and have an ultimate agenda to carry out.
          “I had a change of heart just like your leader Harriri did”
          well actually he’s not “my leader” Hariri, he is All of Lebanons leader as the elected Prime Minister. All M8 leaders should be tried for treason.

      2. Michael? I thought I read a post of yours saying you were done with yalibnan? I suppose you had a change of heart. ..the rally this Sunday will be filled with beautiful smilling faces waving Lebanese flags, not flags of AK’s and wearing black like your forces of oppression lol…I hope all you March 8 folks are ready to be shit on this Sunday.

        1. Fadi81,

          I had a change of heart just like your leader Harriri did ;).and were gonna get shit on?…common man a little more class bro…but u know what this is what ur leaders teach u so im not mad…Thanks Fadi I hope tommorows rally is a success for u guys,cause after this ur excitement will be over…I hope it doesnt snow..;)

        2. Michael, look man nothing personal alright. When I say M8 supporters will be shit on I really mean it bro. Its a figure of speech btw. How can you argue logic with primitive people such as these die hard M8 leaders, you cant because most of them are Ideolagical fanatics and have an ultimate agenda to carry out.
          “I had a change of heart just like your leader Harriri did”
          well actually he’s not “my leader” Hariri, he is All of Lebanons leader as the elected Prime Minister. All M8 leaders should be tried for treason.

    2. The messager is not important the message is more important. You can replace Hariri with any Lebanese who hold the same message of freedom. I will support him or her. You guys are so into hating this man that you forget to be objective. The point is even if HA hold this message I will support them. But the reality is that you prefer to associate yourself with HA at all cost without trying to consider the freedom potential embedded in the message. You see I place Lebanon first not my sect…

      I hope you can do the same. You see reason and passion combine can be a powerful tool to make the change and bring freedom alive.

      Freedom lover don’t follow blindly an ideaology, they follow their heart and soul without compromising the life of an other human being…

      1. Marc,

        Whats up bro…listen its not about hate or not hate…ur freedom is different than my freedom..u see we were occupied for 18 years…Thats 18 years of freedom we will never get back…do u think after we freed the south that it is fair to here these big mouths say now they want to put there hands with ares and trust us and lets work together,be reasonable,where were these people when were occupied…i think this is the main diff in our argument, put the shoe of the south goin back to 1982 till 2000 and see how u would feel,whn ur country doesnt help u,and now that u are free they want to help u..how can we the south trust anyone ever again… the north and the rest bet on us to lose and they were wrong..bottom line…

        Now as for harriri this man was in power Marc,not to long ago..are u telling me we have another jumblatt here,for 2 years he has been telling us lies and now he is telling us how he truly feels…coincedently enough all this is happening now since he has been removed from power,wht if HA and there allys didnt remove him he would still be speaking of the peopel,army and resistance formula correct? so HA removes him and he is bitter and spoiled and miserable…doesnt it bother u tht he is speaking like this now whn he has no power but when he had power he was in syria,iran and visiting the Sayed on a regular basis…..

        And all this rally stuff bro its gonna cause strife,but u guys are picking a fight..dont cry if things get out of hand as they usually do with events like this,when u keep messing with peoples emotions u never know..and u know lebanon the people there are very passionate,so the rally is gonna be a bunch of insults and whtever and at the end nothhing will be accomplished except hate and more hate….the weapons are not going anywhere….Marc here is wht i need u to explain to me,and maybe u can help me ,therse rallys and gatherings wht is it gonna accomplish,,,is HA gonna watch and say nice job the weapons are now gone,are u gonna get majority of Lebanon who support 8 azar to change there mind and come on ur side…let me answer NO…but wht will it accomplish is more hate and hate and hate..and devide and devide and devide…so please for the love of god brother tell me what is this gonna accomplish..if u guys arent gonna come down and physically fight and take the weapons away…how do u think it will happen…i just dont know how anyone can be part of 14 azar….look at its political make up and look where there taking the country…me for one im glad there not in the goverment and I hope no leader from that side is ever part of the Lebanese Gov,cause i dont respect any of them…Good Day

        1. Ya habibi Micheal, thank you for your frank response. How can we come together when you don’t trust the North. How we can come together when you we don’t forgive each other. All of Lebanon enemy are hoping to see us more and more divide. Force or violence, and hate don’t resolve anything. Arm pointing at us your brother from the north will create more tension, and nobody in the end will feel safe. Is this what you whish for lebanon and is people more violence and suffering. You place to much of your absolute hope on politician and not enough on the intelligence of the lebanese people. That is my concern, your right nothing can be achieve when you say we don’t trust you. Like I said I can dig in my past and give many example, what purpose would it serve? We should look at the future together not as enemy but as brother building a better futur for all of us!! Lets pray that the rally will show to you that we love and respect you and the south as true lebanese, and we can’t build our nation with our brothers from the south which myself I admire.

          Peace bro!

        2. ralphsrouji Avatar
          ralphsrouji

          What is this total nonsense. You have been occupied by the Israeli for 18 years? Ya nousetak. We have been under the Syrian occupation for 30 years!!!! how about that? Where were YOU then? Cashing from Syria and Iran! That’s where you were. digging tunnels where heroin funneled from Iran to Syria to port Beirut! This is where you were! You think we’re ever going to trust the like of you, people who sold their country to Iran and Syria and are still doing so.
          WE are picking a fight? Everytime we said lets sit and talk you brought a machine gun to the table. You think we can’t get a machine gun too. You think we’re really afraid of the fight? YOU don’t cry when things get out of hand if you dare showing your weapons past dahyieh and soon if you dare showing your weapons point!
          I tell you what we’re going to achieve by this rally, we’re going to show the world that most of the Lebanese say NO to your weapons, and that we as the majority of Lebanese consider it illegitimate and if you’re going to use it, we’re going to call you not outlaws only but also terrorists, especially when it will be proven that you have blown some 50 Lebanese to dust during the assassinations period for your Syrian and Irani masters!
          As Marc rightfully said, no one cares about Saad, we breath for our message: Freedom, Sovereignty, Independance!!! and this is what we’re going to get, we have no doubt about it!
          You on the other hand have an antique message, one coming straight from the dark ages, one that calls for a certain Islamic wilaya where not even your closest allies have a place. A message of beating journalists and killing peaceful protesters. One of injustice and ruthless retributions. A message of assassinations and blood!
          The time has come for your cancer to dissapear off the face of the earth and it won’t be long. The healing actually starts this Sunday!

      2. Thank you for you reply. Before I answer to your comment, why do some people always speak about “You”, “You guys are so in hating” “you prefer” etc.? I am German from Hamburg and not Hezbollah. And I do not even think that Hezbollah is like this allegations. Some people just need to differ a littler more.

        Now the answer. I begged you the following: “Please tell me without getting to emotional and with arguments full of content!” Regrettably your answer was charged with emotions but not with arguments (“they follow their heart” “message of freedom”, “bring freedom alive”, “so into hating”). I know all this slogans full of emotions and they sound to me as (un)convincing as Djumblats newest pro-Syria slogans. Everybody likes freedom. But not everybody changes its definition every two years. Hezbollah was at least honest enough to keep its definition constant over nearly 30 years now: Freedom from occupation and freedom from agression. It is as simple as logic: To get and to maintain this freedom you need arms. Who want to touch this arms, attacks the freedom from occupation and agression and has to live with consequences. A simple equation that President Sanioura could not calculate back then.

        Finally this is not about hating and loving Hariri. I don’t hate Hariri, I just think that he has not competence for political responsibility.

        1. nabilabuzaid Avatar
          nabilabuzaid

          M.A. I agree that Hariri is not a savy politicians and capable of handling the PM position. But having Hezbollal also stopping you at every level along with the Syrians and Iranians, which made it impossible for him to succeed however.
          Most Lebanese people would support Hezbollah against occupations and aggressions from Israel. But most people also want to stop their aggressions against them. And would not tolerate them helping promote Syrian control over Lebanon. Or Iranian goals of making lebanon part of Iran. Also there are no doubts in our minds that Hezbollah along with the two countries I mentioned here are responsible for many assassinations and we all can see it they’re afraid of the STL despite their firm denial. We don’t want to see no damned black T-Shirts showing at our doorsteps everytime we don’t submit to their wills. We don’t want a resistance made of Shiites only and for your informations the rest who support them are not in their organizations and are not accepted at the high levels of their leadership. This is an Iranians resistance and not Lebanese one. I can sit here and tell you about many reasons why we reject them. Even as recently journalists were being threatened and their fate will be like samir Kassir. so don’t tell me about this resistance crap. They’re full of themselves and there are no difference between them and Israel. they both want to seek the control and destruction of Lebanon.

    3. TOP corrupt official in Lebanon is Berii, second in line is jomblat (aka hizbollah and Aoun Ally). I hope march 14 can take down the corrupt regime of berri and its allies that have been ruling Lebanon for 20 years now.

    4. guss043 Avatar

      did anyone like his father from the mullah concentrated on building a downtown and a state of art airport, is your mullaf since 2000 built a significant thing like Hariri, I visited Lebanon this year and wherever Hariri passed by you cant tell if iurope or Lebanon, and where the MUllah exist garbage and shaks all over, wit the tons of money from Iran that your NaRALLAN GOT from Iran what he did, and with all the drug dealing that Hizbollah lead in Lebanon and outside what Baalbeck got , as per my Shiite friend here ,his relative had a broken hand and went to Hospital run by Hizbollah in Ballabeck, the bed they put him on had traces of blood on the sheets , is this what you want us to sheer for , a lunatic who think what he can liberate Al Jalil in 2 weeks !!!!

  2. Honestly, I do not want to offend anyone. But how can someone still take this person seriously? Just because his father is a martyr? Lebanon has a thousend martyrs. Or do some people feel sympathy because he is allegedly a Sunni? Aren’t there many sunnis who are more brave, less corrupt and less dependent on the US and KSA in lebanon? Or is it only because he is against Hezbollah? Is it really the objective of lebanese to be and to act against something instead of to be and to act for something? Please tell me! Please tell me without getting to emotional and with arguments full of content! I beg you!

    1. The messager is not important the message is more important. You can replace Hariri with any Lebanese who hold the same message of freedom. I will support him or her. You guys are so into hating this man that you forget to be objective. The point is even if HA hold this message I will support them. But the reality is that you prefer to associate yourself with HA at all cost without trying to consider the freedom potential embedded in the message. You see I place Lebanon first not my sect…

      I hope you can do the same. You see reason and passion combine can be a powerful tool to make the change and bring freedom alive.

      Freedom lover don’t follow blindly an ideaology, they follow their heart and soul without compromising the life of an other human being…

      1. Marc,

        Whats up bro…listen its not about hate or not hate…ur freedom is different than my freedom..u see we were occupied for 18 years…Thats 18 years of freedom we will never get back…do u think after we freed the south that it is fair to here these big mouths say now they want to put there hands with ares and trust us and lets work together,be reasonable,where were these people when were occupied…i think this is the main diff in our argument, put the shoe of the south goin back to 1982 till 2000 and see how u would feel,whn ur country doesnt help u,and now that u are free they want to help u..how can we the south trust anyone ever again… the north and the rest bet on us to lose and they were wrong..bottom line…

        Now as for harriri this man was in power Marc,not to long ago..are u telling me we have another jumblatt here,for 2 years he has been telling us lies and now he is telling us how he truly feels…coincedently enough all this is happening now since he has been removed from power,wht if HA and there allys didnt remove him he would still be speaking of the peopel,army and resistance formula correct? so HA removes him and he is bitter and spoiled and miserable…doesnt it bother u tht he is speaking like this now whn he has no power but when he had power he was in syria,iran and visiting the Sayed on a regular basis…..

        And all this rally stuff bro its gonna cause strife,but u guys are picking a fight..dont cry if things get out of hand as they usually do with events like this,when u keep messing with peoples emotions u never know..and u know lebanon the people there are very passionate,so the rally is gonna be a bunch of insults and whtever and at the end nothhing will be accomplished except hate and more hate….the weapons are not going anywhere….Marc here is wht i need u to explain to me,and maybe u can help me ,therse rallys and gatherings wht is it gonna accomplish,,,is HA gonna watch and say nice job the weapons are now gone,are u gonna get majority of Lebanon who support 8 azar to change there mind and come on ur side…let me answer NO…but wht will it accomplish is more hate and hate and hate..and devide and devide and devide…so please for the love of god brother tell me what is this gonna accomplish..if u guys arent gonna come down and physically fight and take the weapons away…how do u think it will happen…i just dont know how anyone can be part of 14 azar….look at its political make up and look where there taking the country…me for one im glad there not in the goverment and I hope no leader from that side is ever part of the Lebanese Gov,cause i dont respect any of them…Good Day

      2. Thank you for you reply. Before I answer to your comment, why do some people always speak about “You”, “You guys are so in hating” “you prefer” etc.? I am German from Hamburg and not Hezbollah. And I do not even think that Hezbollah is like this allegations. Some people just need to differ a littler more.

        Now the answer. I begged you the following: “Please tell me without getting to emotional and with arguments full of content!” Regrettably your answer was charged with emotions but not with arguments (“they follow their heart” “message of freedom”, “bring freedom alive”, “so into hating”). I know all this slogans full of emotions and they sound to me as (un)convincing as Djumblats newest pro-Syria slogans. Everybody likes freedom. But not everybody changes its definition every two years. Hezbollah was at least honest enough to keep its definition constant over nearly 30 years now: Freedom from occupation and freedom from agression. It is as simple as logic: To get and to maintain this freedom you need arms. Who want to touch this arms, attacks the freedom from occupation and agression and has to live with consequences. A simple equation that President Sanioura could not calculate back then.

        Finally this is not about hating and loving Hariri. I don’t hate Hariri, I just think that he has not competence for political responsibility.

        1. nabilabuzaid Avatar
          nabilabuzaid

          M.A. I agree that Hariri is not a savy politicians and capable of handling the PM position. But having Hezbollal also stopping you at every level along with the Syrians and Iranians, which made it impossible for him to succeed however.
          Most Lebanese people would support Hezbollah against occupations and aggressions from Israel. But most people also want to stop their aggressions against them. And would not tolerate them helping promote Syrian control over Lebanon. Or Iranian goals of making lebanon part of Iran. Also there are no doubts in our minds that Hezbollah along with the two countries I mentioned here are responsible for many assassinations and we all can see it they’re afraid of the STL despite their firm denial. We don’t want to see no damned black T-Shirts showing at our doorsteps everytime we don’t submit to their wills. We don’t want a resistance made of Shiites only and for your informations the rest who support them are not in their organizations and are not accepted at the high levels of their leadership. This is an Iranians resistance and not Lebanese one. I can sit here and tell you about many reasons why we reject them. Even as recently journalists were being threatened and their fate will be like samir Kassir. so don’t tell me about this resistance crap. They’re full of themselves and there are no difference between them and Israel. they both want to seek the control and destruction of Lebanon.

    2. guss043 Avatar

      did anyone like his father from the mullah concentrated on building a downtown and a state of art airport, is your mullaf since 2000 built a significant thing like Hariri, I visited Lebanon this year and wherever Hariri passed by you cant tell if iurope or Lebanon, and where the MUllah exist garbage and shaks all over, wit the tons of money from Iran that your NaRALLAN GOT from Iran what he did, and with all the drug dealing that Hizbollah lead in Lebanon and outside what Baalbeck got , as per my Shiite friend here ,his relative had a broken hand and went to Hospital run by Hizbollah in Ballabeck, the bed they put him on had traces of blood on the sheets , is this what you want us to sheer for , a lunatic who think what he can liberate Al Jalil in 2 weeks !!!!

  3. Honestly, I do not want to offend anyone. But how can someone still take this person seriously? Just because his father is a martyr? Lebanon has a thousend martyrs. Or do some people feel sympathy because he is allegedly a Sunni? Aren’t there many sunnis who are more brave, less corrupt and less dependent on the US and KSA in lebanon? Or is it only because he is against Hezbollah? Is it really the objective of lebanese to be and to act against something instead of to be and to act for something? Please tell me! Please tell me without getting to emotional and with arguments full of content! I beg you!

    1. M.A.

      Dont hold ur breath to get any answers u wont…no one ever answers my question,and thn hit me,
      how can they answer questions that would incrimnate there beliefs or ideolgies without lying,
      like for example how can anyone listen to this bum whn he was in power he was pro HA weapons,
      and even made them part of the people army and resistance equation,and now that 8 azar through him
      out like the dog he is look how he is talking,how can anyone beleive what he is saying,it reminds me of a guy
      that knows a hot girl but thinks he has no chance with her like ever, and keeps calling her a whore,until one day he found out she wanted him and he married her,and how ses no shes not a whore i was misunderstood about her,u see in life u can make anything come to ur defense if u eventually beleive ur own lies,and with harriri he is failing miserably,
      he is that guy that had power and watched it get stripped it from him,u see dont get me wrong harriri always hated HA,syria and Iran,but when it gave him power he didnt mind them…now that he lost power look how he is talking,if he was this passionatly as he is showing the last 2 weeks to be against HA arms why didnt he do something about it whn he had power in parlimant to do something bout it,ill tell u why its because he loved the power….now he just sounds like a girl that has been scorned after seeing her man with another women….just listen to him speak and u can feel his anger of humilation,the end of harriri is near and 14 azar is bankrupt…notice one thing though guys and gals,as much as 14 azar is pushing for a fight and insulting the classy 8 azar leaders and org,not one time have they even responded to any negativity towards them,and this is the old school lesson of the winner stays quiet while the sore loser pouts…
      and finally with all these speeches from harririi this week,and geagea and hamade and all the other lap dogs,what are they gonna save for the big ralllllllllllly on sunday that will generate 2 million people according to geagea,save some talk for sunday boys….or is it all gonna be repetitive from this week….one word….BORINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG…..
      her,and how ses no shes not a whore i was misunderstood about her,u see in life u can make anything

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        Michael? I thought I read a post of yours saying you were done with yalibnan? I suppose you had a change of heart. ..the rally this Sunday will be filled with beautiful smilling faces waving Lebanese flags, not flags of AK’s and wearing black like your forces of oppression lol…I hope all you March 8 folks are ready to be shit on this Sunday.

        1. Fadi81,

          I had a change of heart just like your leader Harriri did ;).and were gonna get shit on?…common man a little more class bro…but u know what this is what ur leaders teach u so im not mad…Thanks Fadi I hope tommorows rally is a success for u guys,cause after this ur excitement will be over…I hope it doesnt snow..;)

        2.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          Michael, look man nothing personal alright. When I say M8 supporters will be shit on I really mean it bro. Its a figure of speech btw. How can you argue logic with primitive people such as these die hard M8 leaders, you cant because most of them are Ideolagical fanatics and have an ultimate agenda to carry out.
          “I had a change of heart just like your leader Harriri did”
          well actually he’s not “my leader” Hariri, he is All of Lebanons leader as the elected Prime Minister. All M8 leaders should be tried for treason.

        3.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          Michael, look man nothing personal alright. When I say M8 supporters will be shit on I really mean it bro. Its a figure of speech btw. How can you argue logic with primitive people such as these die hard M8 leaders, you cant because most of them are Ideolagical fanatics and have an ultimate agenda to carry out.
          “I had a change of heart just like your leader Harriri did”
          well actually he’s not “my leader” Hariri, he is All of Lebanons leader as the elected Prime Minister. All M8 leaders should be tried for treason.

    2. The messager is not important the message is more important. You can replace Hariri with any Lebanese who hold the same message of freedom. I will support him or her. You guys are so into hating this man that you forget to be objective. The point is even if HA hold this message I will support them. But the reality is that you prefer to associate yourself with HA at all cost without trying to consider the freedom potential embedded in the message. You see I place Lebanon first not my sect…

      I hope you can do the same. You see reason and passion combine can be a powerful tool to make the change and bring freedom alive.

      Freedom lover don’t follow blindly an ideaology, they follow their heart and soul without compromising the life of an other human being…

      1. Marc,

        Whats up bro…listen its not about hate or not hate…ur freedom is different than my freedom..u see we were occupied for 18 years…Thats 18 years of freedom we will never get back…do u think after we freed the south that it is fair to here these big mouths say now they want to put there hands with ares and trust us and lets work together,be reasonable,where were these people when were occupied…i think this is the main diff in our argument, put the shoe of the south goin back to 1982 till 2000 and see how u would feel,whn ur country doesnt help u,and now that u are free they want to help u..how can we the south trust anyone ever again… the north and the rest bet on us to lose and they were wrong..bottom line…

        Now as for harriri this man was in power Marc,not to long ago..are u telling me we have another jumblatt here,for 2 years he has been telling us lies and now he is telling us how he truly feels…coincedently enough all this is happening now since he has been removed from power,wht if HA and there allys didnt remove him he would still be speaking of the peopel,army and resistance formula correct? so HA removes him and he is bitter and spoiled and miserable…doesnt it bother u tht he is speaking like this now whn he has no power but when he had power he was in syria,iran and visiting the Sayed on a regular basis…..

        And all this rally stuff bro its gonna cause strife,but u guys are picking a fight..dont cry if things get out of hand as they usually do with events like this,when u keep messing with peoples emotions u never know..and u know lebanon the people there are very passionate,so the rally is gonna be a bunch of insults and whtever and at the end nothhing will be accomplished except hate and more hate….the weapons are not going anywhere….Marc here is wht i need u to explain to me,and maybe u can help me ,therse rallys and gatherings wht is it gonna accomplish,,,is HA gonna watch and say nice job the weapons are now gone,are u gonna get majority of Lebanon who support 8 azar to change there mind and come on ur side…let me answer NO…but wht will it accomplish is more hate and hate and hate..and devide and devide and devide…so please for the love of god brother tell me what is this gonna accomplish..if u guys arent gonna come down and physically fight and take the weapons away…how do u think it will happen…i just dont know how anyone can be part of 14 azar….look at its political make up and look where there taking the country…me for one im glad there not in the goverment and I hope no leader from that side is ever part of the Lebanese Gov,cause i dont respect any of them…Good Day

        1. Ya habibi Micheal, thank you for your frank response. How can we come together when you don’t trust the North. How we can come together when you we don’t forgive each other. All of Lebanon enemy are hoping to see us more and more divide. Force or violence, and hate don’t resolve anything. Arm pointing at us your brother from the north will create more tension, and nobody in the end will feel safe. Is this what you whish for lebanon and is people more violence and suffering. You place to much of your absolute hope on politician and not enough on the intelligence of the lebanese people. That is my concern, your right nothing can be achieve when you say we don’t trust you. Like I said I can dig in my past and give many example, what purpose would it serve? We should look at the future together not as enemy but as brother building a better futur for all of us!! Lets pray that the rally will show to you that we love and respect you and the south as true lebanese, and we can’t build our nation with our brothers from the south which myself I admire.

          Peace bro!

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          Anonymous

          What is this total nonsense. You have been occupied by the Israeli for 18 years? Ya nousetak. We have been under the Syrian occupation for 30 years!!!! how about that? Where were YOU then? Cashing from Syria and Iran! That’s where you were. digging tunnels where heroin funneled from Iran to Syria to port Beirut! This is where you were! You think we’re ever going to trust the like of you, people who sold their country to Iran and Syria and are still doing so.
          WE are picking a fight? Everytime we said lets sit and talk you brought a machine gun to the table. You think we can’t get a machine gun too. You think we’re really afraid of the fight? YOU don’t cry when things get out of hand if you dare showing your weapons past dahyieh and soon if you dare showing your weapons point!
          I tell you what we’re going to achieve by this rally, we’re going to show the world that most of the Lebanese say NO to your weapons, and that we as the majority of Lebanese consider it illegitimate and if you’re going to use it, we’re going to call you not outlaws only but also terrorists, especially when it will be proven that you have blown some 50 Lebanese to dust during the assassinations period for your Syrian and Irani masters!
          As Marc rightfully said, no one cares about Saad, we breath for our message: Freedom, Sovereignty, Independance!!! and this is what we’re going to get, we have no doubt about it!
          You on the other hand have an antique message, one coming straight from the dark ages, one that calls for a certain Islamic wilaya where not even your closest allies have a place. A message of beating journalists and killing peaceful protesters. One of injustice and ruthless retributions. A message of assassinations and blood!
          The time has come for your cancer to dissapear off the face of the earth and it won’t be long. The healing actually starts this Sunday!

      2. Thank you for you reply. Before I answer to your comment, why do some people always speak about “You”, “You guys are so in hating” “you prefer” etc.? I am German from Hamburg and not Hezbollah. And I do not even think that Hezbollah is like this allegations. Some people just need to differ a littler more.

        Now the answer. I begged you the following: “Please tell me without getting to emotional and with arguments full of content!” Regrettably your answer was charged with emotions but not with arguments (“they follow their heart” “message of freedom”, “bring freedom alive”, “so into hating”). I know all this slogans full of emotions and they sound to me as (un)convincing as Djumblats newest pro-Syria slogans. Everybody likes freedom. But not everybody changes its definition every two years. Hezbollah was at least honest enough to keep its definition constant over nearly 30 years now: Freedom from occupation and freedom from agression. It is as simple as logic: To get and to maintain this freedom you need arms. Who want to touch this arms, attacks the freedom from occupation and agression and has to live with consequences. A simple equation that President Sanioura could not calculate back then.

        Finally this is not about hating and loving Hariri. I don’t hate Hariri, I just think that he has not competence for political responsibility.

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          Anonymous

          M.A. I agree that Hariri is not a savy politicians and capable of handling the PM position. But having Hezbollal also stopping you at every level along with the Syrians and Iranians, which made it impossible for him to succeed however.
          Most Lebanese people would support Hezbollah against occupations and aggressions from Israel. But most people also want to stop their aggressions against them. And would not tolerate them helping promote Syrian control over Lebanon. Or Iranian goals of making lebanon part of Iran. Also there are no doubts in our minds that Hezbollah along with the two countries I mentioned here are responsible for many assassinations and we all can see it they’re afraid of the STL despite their firm denial. We don’t want to see no damned black T-Shirts showing at our doorsteps everytime we don’t submit to their wills. We don’t want a resistance made of Shiites only and for your informations the rest who support them are not in their organizations and are not accepted at the high levels of their leadership. This is an Iranians resistance and not Lebanese one. I can sit here and tell you about many reasons why we reject them. Even as recently journalists were being threatened and their fate will be like samir Kassir. so don’t tell me about this resistance crap. They’re full of themselves and there are no difference between them and Israel. they both want to seek the control and destruction of Lebanon.

    3. TOP corrupt official in Lebanon is Berii, second in line is jomblat (aka hizbollah and Aoun Ally). I hope march 14 can take down the corrupt regime of berri and its allies that have been ruling Lebanon for 20 years now.

    4. guss043 Avatar

      did anyone like his father from the mullah concentrated on building a downtown and a state of art airport, is your mullaf since 2000 built a significant thing like Hariri, I visited Lebanon this year and wherever Hariri passed by you cant tell if iurope or Lebanon, and where the MUllah exist garbage and shaks all over, wit the tons of money from Iran that your NaRALLAN GOT from Iran what he did, and with all the drug dealing that Hizbollah lead in Lebanon and outside what Baalbeck got , as per my Shiite friend here ,his relative had a broken hand and went to Hospital run by Hizbollah in Ballabeck, the bed they put him on had traces of blood on the sheets , is this what you want us to sheer for , a lunatic who think what he can liberate Al Jalil in 2 weeks !!!!

  4. Honestly, I do not want to offend anyone. But how can someone still take this person seriously? Just because his father is a martyr? Lebanon has a thousend martyrs. Or do some people feel sympathy because he is allegedly a Sunni? Aren’t there many sunnis who are more brave, less corrupt and less dependent on the US and KSA in lebanon? Or is it only because he is against Hezbollah? Is it really the objective of lebanese to be and to act against something instead of to be and to act for something? Please tell me! Please tell me without getting to emotional and with arguments full of content! I beg you!

  5. Fauzia45 Avatar

    Yes!The future is freedom,freedom from fear!The future is for democracy for without it there will be no peace or justice!!Men will continue to fight for these ideals and values that never die!!!They are stronger than any arms,force or power!!!!!

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    Anonymous

    Yes!The future is freedom,freedom from fear!The future is for democracy for without it there will be no peace or justice!!Men will continue to fight for these ideals and values that never die!!!They are stronger than any arms,force or power!!!!!

  7. To Michael and others who have the same mind set.
    What are you so worked up about? Why are you that concerned over a rally that you need to make huge posts and comments of negativity when you dont think the rally is even worth it??… I have an idea, why dont you just let people rally and speak their own minds or is that against your “code” of politics… I guess you must think that that we all need to hold a gun to get our point accross in your brainwashed ideas! Let the people speak and gather, whats it to you??? The only poeple that will create trouble are those who are against freedom and WANT to stir trouble!

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    Anonymous

    To Michael and others who have the same mind set.
    What are you so worked up about? Why are you that concerned over a rally that you need to make huge posts and comments of negativity when you dont think the rally is even worth it??… I have an idea, why dont you just let people rally and speak their own minds or is that against your “code” of politics… I guess you must think that that we all need to hold a gun to get our point accross in your brainwashed ideas! Let the people speak and gather, whats it to you??? The only poeple that will create trouble are those who are against freedom and WANT to stir trouble!

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    Anonymous

    To Michael and others who have the same mind set.
    What are you so worked up about? Why are you that concerned over a rally that you need to make huge posts and comments of negativity when you dont think the rally is even worth it??… I have an idea, why dont you just let people rally and speak their own minds or is that against your “code” of politics… I guess you must think that that we all need to hold a gun to get our point accross in your brainwashed ideas! Let the people speak and gather, whats it to you??? The only poeple that will create trouble are those who are against freedom and WANT to stir trouble!

  10. Hariri will not gonna give anything to lebanon. After achieving his goal he will gonna sell you in the hands of israel. He wants to be a leader just. He want the seat back. He is greedy.

    1. guss043 Avatar

      O h yea !! what Hizb al Mullah and Aoun is going or has give us, one year occupying dowtown and making it tent of Tahsish with Al Tayyar and shut down business, what the MUllah goign to giveus women like Iran not allowed to pee without their mullah permissions, or a medieval Lebanon as Iran, we have a sample of Lebanon in the dirt of Dahiye and Baalbeck and Garbage all over the streets and sour running all over .What they going to give other than the assassins in Damascus to cme back to us, grow up or wake up from you Mullah coma!!!

    2. guss043 Avatar

      O h yea !! what Hizb al Mullah and Aoun is going or has give us, one year occupying dowtown and making it tent of Tahsish with Al Tayyar and shut down business, what the MUllah goign to giveus women like Iran not allowed to pee without their mullah permissions, or a medieval Lebanon as Iran, we have a sample of Lebanon in the dirt of Dahiye and Baalbeck and Garbage all over the streets and sour running all over .What they going to give other than the assassins in Damascus to cme back to us, grow up or wake up from you Mullah coma!!!

    3. guss043 Avatar

      and your street guy Berri is what,ungreedy?

    4. guss043 Avatar

      and your street guy Berri is what,ungreedy?

  11. Hariri will not gonna give anything to lebanon. After achieving his goal he will gonna sell you in the hands of israel. He wants to be a leader just. He want the seat back. He is greedy.

    1. guss043 Avatar

      O h yea !! what Hizb al Mullah and Aoun is going or has give us, one year occupying dowtown and making it tent of Tahsish with Al Tayyar and shut down business, what the MUllah goign to giveus women like Iran not allowed to pee without their mullah permissions, or a medieval Lebanon as Iran, we have a sample of Lebanon in the dirt of Dahiye and Baalbeck and Garbage all over the streets and sour running all over .What they going to give other than the assassins in Damascus to cme back to us, grow up or wake up from you Mullah coma!!!

    2. guss043 Avatar

      and your street guy Berri is what,ungreedy?

  12. Hariri will not gonna give anything to lebanon. After achieving his goal he will gonna sell you in the hands of israel. He wants to be a leader just. He want the seat back. He is greedy.

  13. Rally over boys,

    Breaking news as we speak HA is now getting rid of its weapons after the intimidating crowd of 40 thousand,wow if im a follower of march 14 id be sooo dissappointed,the crowd was pretty much made up of 14 azar polticians and there families,idk what was more confusing the way harriri the leader of all Lebanese as fadi stated started to strip like a thug ready for a street fight instead of talk like a Leader of a revolution,Imagine the Sayed doing that im sure we would be hearing comments or was it the 500 foot poster of King Abdallah looking at the crowd,i dont know wht concerned me more,the group thats talking about Iran and Syria has a life size picture times 1000 at there rally of the king of saudia arabia and tiny pics of there so called martyrs tht there crying for..think bout it boys if thats not double standards what is….

    Anyway congrats on ur rally,as ive always said now what?

    Good Day ,for the next rally they should start paying the people now to go,
    so maybe at next years rally they can break a hundred thousand,if all the Lebanese as you say dont want them to have there weapons dont u think alllllooooot more wouldve showed up,to many empty seats to many empty spots,and the camera was just zoomed in..wowww..anyway we thank 14 azar for all there hard work in showing the Lebanese people want the weapons in the hands of the men of the south…..hahahahah…..

    1. FadiAbboud Avatar
      FadiAbboud

      Anyone who disagreed with the message , lets forget about the messenger , that is being spoke at the March 14th rally is clearly against the will of Lebanon to be a free and democratic and just Country.

    2. guss043 Avatar

      you are being sarcastic and an idiot Aounist, this manifestations put the Syrian bastards and their collaborators ou of Lebanon in 2005, and soon we will throw the mullha out where they belong, after the fall of Iran and their medieval style islamist non sense , who live can tell the story .Mainife, you are just a hole aounist who follow the mentally retARDED coward and a syrain clown or an SSNP

  14. Rally over boys,

    Breaking news as we speak HA is now getting rid of its weapons after the intimidating crowd of 40 thousand,wow if im a follower of march 14 id be sooo dissappointed,the crowd was pretty much made up of 14 azar polticians and there families,idk what was more confusing the way harriri the leader of all Lebanese as fadi stated started to strip like a thug ready for a street fight instead of talk like a Leader of a revolution,Imagine the Sayed doing that im sure we would be hearing comments or was it the 500 foot poster of King Abdallah looking at the crowd,i dont know wht concerned me more,the group thats talking about Iran and Syria has a life size picture times 1000 at there rally of the king of saudia arabia and tiny pics of there so called martyrs tht there crying for..think bout it boys if thats not double standards what is….

    Anyway congrats on ur rally,as ive always said now what?

    Good Day ,for the next rally they should start paying the people now to go,
    so maybe at next years rally they can break a hundred thousand,if all the Lebanese as you say dont want them to have there weapons dont u think alllllooooot more wouldve showed up,to many empty seats to many empty spots,and the camera was just zoomed in..wowww..anyway we thank 14 azar for all there hard work in showing the Lebanese people want the weapons in the hands of the men of the south…..hahahahah…..

    1. guss043 Avatar

      you are being sarcastic and an idiot Aounist, this manifestations put the Syrian bastards and their collaborators ou of Lebanon in 2005, and soon we will throw the mullha out where they belong, after the fall of Iran and their medieval style islamist non sense , who live can tell the story .Mainife, you are just a hole aounist who follow the mentally retARDED coward and a syrain clown or an SSNP

  15. Rally over boys,

    Breaking news as we speak HA is now getting rid of its weapons after the intimidating crowd of 40 thousand,wow if im a follower of march 14 id be sooo dissappointed,the crowd was pretty much made up of 14 azar polticians and there families,idk what was more confusing the way harriri the leader of all Lebanese as fadi stated started to strip like a thug ready for a street fight instead of talk like a Leader of a revolution,Imagine the Sayed doing that im sure we would be hearing comments or was it the 500 foot poster of King Abdallah looking at the crowd,i dont know wht concerned me more,the group thats talking about Iran and Syria has a life size picture times 1000 at there rally of the king of saudia arabia and tiny pics of there so called martyrs tht there crying for..think bout it boys if thats not double standards what is….

    Anyway congrats on ur rally,as ive always said now what?

    Good Day ,for the next rally they should start paying the people now to go,
    so maybe at next years rally they can break a hundred thousand,if all the Lebanese as you say dont want them to have there weapons dont u think alllllooooot more wouldve showed up,to many empty seats to many empty spots,and the camera was just zoomed in..wowww..anyway we thank 14 azar for all there hard work in showing the Lebanese people want the weapons in the hands of the men of the south…..hahahahah…..

    1. guss043 Avatar

      you are being sarcastic and an idiot Aounist, this manifestations put the Syrian bastards and their collaborators ou of Lebanon in 2005, and soon we will throw the mullha out where they belong, after the fall of Iran and their medieval style islamist non sense , who live can tell the story .Mainife, you are just a hole aounist who follow the mentally retARDED coward and a syrain clown or an SSNP

  16. FadiAbboud Avatar
    FadiAbboud

    Anyone who disagreed with the message , lets forget about the messenger , that is being spoke at the March 14th rally is clearly against the will of Lebanon to be a free and democratic and just Country.

  17.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Anyone who disagreed with the message , lets forget about the messenger , that is being spoke at the March 14th rally is clearly against the will of Lebanon to be a free and democratic and just Country.

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