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Shiite council rejects Hariri Tribunal, deems it unconstitutional

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The international tribunal investigating the 2005 slaying of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri is no longer valid, Shiite authorities said in Lebanon.

“The (Shiite) council calls (on the Lebanese government) to reject any cooperation with it because it has bypassed the state, the constitution and the people,” the Shiite elite said in a statement.

The Special Tribunal for Lebanon in January delivered a sealed indictment to tribunal judges. The indictment is widely expected to point the finger at Hezbollah, which led opposition leaders in a January walkout that brought down the government of Saad Hariri, the son of Rafik Hariri.

Members of the Shiite elite in Lebanon said the STL has lost constitutional legitimacy. The tribunal has been turned into a political tool rather than a venue for justice, they said.

Washington and the United Nations have urged Prime Minister-designate Najib Mikati to ensure that any new government honors its international obligations.

Mikati, a former ally of Saad Hariri, hasn’t been able to form a unity government because of disputes between the Western-backed March 14 coalition and the March 8 alliance, which includes Hezbollah.

UPI

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40 responses to “Shiite council rejects Hariri Tribunal, deems it unconstitutional”

  1. Amine123 Avatar
    Amine123

    Wow, the truth would hurt, may be it’s time for you to go to Iran to your masters

  2. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Wow, the truth would hurt, may be it’s time for you to go to Iran to your masters

  3. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    So give us the alternative to discover the murderers, if you are not accepting the STL. You cannot reject an internationaly known legal body looking to put the spot light on the criminals without suggesting an alternative. The STL was acceptable and constitutional before 5, 4, 3 , 2 years and now suddenly, because HA is sure that some of its members are involved and are going to be indicted, it is not constitutional any more? No my fellow Lebanese, justice does not work this way. The STL is completely objective and not politicized and does not work for anybody’s favor other than the TRUTH.
    Everybody wants to know the TRUTH, even this elite shiaa council, so please give us the alternative to know the truth and pleeeeeeease don’t involve Israel in this because they have nothing to do with it, exactly like the killing of Mughnieh, they have nothing to do with it. Your biggest ally (Damascus) killed Mughnieh by the admittance of his Iranian wife.

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      THERE MUST BE A SEPARATION BETWEEN RELIGION AND STATE . ALL RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS SHOULD STICK TO WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD AT;PRAY,GUIDE, SAVE SOULS.AND DON’T FORCE YOUR OPINIONS ON YOUR OWN FOLLOWERS OR OTHERS.
      LISTEN UP MAJELSS SHIIA , DAR IFTAA, BKIRKI,AND ALL OTHERS.ENOUGH ALREADY.

      1. guss043 Avatar
        guss043

        Agree but we are far ,but not too far, the coming revolution will put Islam right in the mosque where it belongs , as the French revolution took out the church from the King castles in Europe. Iran fall down will be the trigger to the end of the Mullah and religious laws, this will happen eventually, women in Iran are not the Arab women, they are far more educated and they had enough from 30 years from “Arbadet” el Mullah, Iranian women played a major role in the last year failed revolution but eventually they will win.The French revolution was lead by the women (French oold coin symbolize that ) and the next revolution in the Arab world ( just see how many women were in the street in Egypt) will be a women one, as the dictatorship in the Arab world are part of the injustice that women are treated with from Saudi Arabia ao poor women in Jordan , Afghanistan and Pakistan, were a simple rumor about a aldy could have her killed and stoned to death , we are on the way to have a Turkish example of secular state ,baby stage but the ball was kicked and it is rolling and nothing is going to stop it!!!!!!!

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          guess043,
          I’m pleased that finally, you and I , can agree on few things.lol
          I do agree,and have argued this many times before, that democracy, freedom,and transparency will reduce radicalism in the Arab /Muslim world. And yes ,with time,these revolutions will,and most likely , bring back Islam to the mosque ,and charity work.This is the place of all religions;mosque,church or what ever temple they use.
          If everything goes well in Egypt,the Muslim brotherhood may get between 20 to 25 % of the vote, yet they will become less radical then the regime wanted us to believe. Once they become part of the political system, they behave like any other political party.On the next election they might get less than 20 % ,as other political parties,and organisations attract many of the young Egyptians who ,otherwise, may have gone to the brotherhood.
          Lack of political life in Egypt,and other Arab countries, attracted young people to Islamic parties. Mosques were the only outlets.
          I always believed that religious parties can exist as part of a secular ,and democratic system.
          Turkey Malaysia, Indonesia are good examples.
          Even in Lebanon, its the lack of credibility,and failure of political parties(from 60’s to 90’s) that made it possible for religious parties to attract younger generation.
          I disagree with you that restrictions should put on the way Muslims or Christians should practice or hold their prayers.These restrictions are what brought Islamic parties to the forefront in turkey.Turkey’s experience should be a good example to study before and after the Islamic party took power.

  4. Constantin7 Avatar
    Constantin7

    So give us the alternative to discover the murderers, if you are not accepting the STL. You cannot reject an internationaly known legal body looking to put the spot light on the criminals without suggesting an alternative. The STL was acceptable and constitutional before 5, 4, 3 , 2 years and now suddenly, because HA is sure that some of its members are involved and are going to be indicted, it is not constitutional any more? No my fellow Lebanese, justice does not work this way. The STL is completely objective and not politicized and does not work for anybody’s favor other than the TRUTH.
    Everybody wants to know the TRUTH, even this elite shiaa council, so please give us the alternative to know the truth and pleeeeeeease don’t involve Israel in this because they have nothing to do with it, exactly like the killing of Mughnieh, they have nothing to do with it. Your biggest ally (Damascus) killed Mughnieh by the admittance of his Iranian wife.

  5. Avatar
    Anonymous

    So give us the alternative to discover the murderers, if you are not accepting the STL. You cannot reject an internationaly known legal body looking to put the spot light on the criminals without suggesting an alternative. The STL was acceptable and constitutional before 5, 4, 3 , 2 years and now suddenly, because HA is sure that some of its members are involved and are going to be indicted, it is not constitutional any more? No my fellow Lebanese, justice does not work this way. The STL is completely objective and not politicized and does not work for anybody’s favor other than the TRUTH.
    Everybody wants to know the TRUTH, even this elite shiaa council, so please give us the alternative to know the truth and pleeeeeeease don’t involve Israel in this because they have nothing to do with it, exactly like the killing of Mughnieh, they have nothing to do with it. Your biggest ally (Damascus) killed Mughnieh by the admittance of his Iranian wife.

  6. Fauzia45 Avatar
    Fauzia45

    Others accept it and deem it constitutional!!!!!

  7. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Others accept it and deem it constitutional!!!!!

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Others accept it and deem it constitutional!!!!!

  9. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    I wish religious people stick to the spiritual and get out of politics way…

    1. BigSami Avatar
      BigSami

      Sorry but from the dawn of time the likes of Churches/etc. were ruthless political powerhouses that committed unimaginable crimes (torture) against humanity and all under the name of God. It’s all about wealth-control through controlling the mass. HA is no different!

  10. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    I wish religious people stick to the spiritual and get out of politics way…

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Sorry but from the dawn of time the likes of Churches/etc. were ruthless political powerhouses that committed unimaginable crimes (torture) against humanity and all under the name of God. It’s all about wealth-control through controlling the mass. HA is no different!

  11. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    THERE MUST BE A SEPARATION BETWEEN RELIGION AND STATE . ALL RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS SHOULD STICK TO WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD AT;PRAY,GUIDE, SAVE SOULS.AND DON’T FORCE YOUR OPINIONS ON YOUR OWN FOLLOWERS OR OTHERS.
    LISTEN UP MAJELSS SHIIA , DAR IFTAA, BKIRKI,AND ALL OTHERS.ENOUGH ALREADY.

  12. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    THERE MUST BE A SEPARATION BETWEEN RELIGION AND STATE . ALL RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS SHOULD STICK TO WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD AT;PRAY,GUIDE, SAVE SOULS.AND DON’T FORCE YOUR OPINIONS ON YOUR OWN FOLLOWERS OR OTHERS.
    LISTEN UP MAJELSS SHIIA , DAR IFTAA, BKIRKI,AND ALL OTHERS.ENOUGH ALREADY.

    1. guss043 Avatar
      guss043

      Agree but we are far ,but not too far, the coming revolution will put Islam right in the mosque where it belongs , as the French revolution took out the church from the King castles in Europe. Iran fall down will be the trigger to the end of the Mullah and religious laws, this will happen eventually, women in Iran are not the Arab women, they are far more educated and they had enough from 30 years from “Arbadet” el Mullah, Iranian women played a major role in the last year failed revolution but eventually they will win.The French revolution was lead by the women (French oold coin symbolize that ) and the next revolution in the Arab world ( just see how many women were in the street in Egypt) will be a women one, as the dictatorship in the Arab world are part of the injustice that women are treated with from Saudi Arabia ao poor women in Jordan , Afghanistan and Pakistan, were a simple rumor about a aldy could have her killed and stoned to death , we are on the way to have a Turkish example of secular state ,baby stage but the ball was kicked and it is rolling and nothing is going to stop it!!!!!!!

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        guess043,
        I’m pleased to finally find that you and I , can agree on few things.lol
        I do agree,and have argued this many times before, that democracy, freedom,and transparency will reduce radicalism in the Arab /Muslim world. And yes ,with time,these revolutions will,and most likely , bring back Islam to the mosque ,and charity work.
        If everything goes well in Egypt,the Muslim brotherhood may get between 20 to 25 % of the vote, yet they will become less radical then the regime wanted us to believe. Once they become part of the political system, they behave like any other political party.
        On the next election they will get less than 20 % ,as other political parties,and organisations attract many of the young Egyptians who ,otherwise, may have gone to the brotherhood.
        Lack of political life in Egypt,and other Arab countries, attracted young people to Islamic parties. Mosques were the only outlets.
        I always believed that religious parties can exist as part of a secular ,and democratic system.
        Turkey Malaysia, Indonesia are good examples.
        Even in Lebanon, its the lack of credibility,and failure of political parties(from 60’s to 90’s) that made it possible for religious parties to attract younger generation.

  13. Mosetsfire Avatar
    Mosetsfire

    This council is as a joke. Sorry I don’t believe in a religious authority that takes its orders from a clown in a cave and some idiot in Iran.

  14. Mohamad Masri Avatar
    Mohamad Masri

    This council is as a joke. Sorry I don’t believe in a religious authority that takes its orders from a clown in a cave and some idiot in Iran.

  15. nabilabuzaid Avatar
    nabilabuzaid

    If the patriach says something politics the Shiites say do not interfere and of course they send their stooges Aoun and Franjieh to say so on their behalf too. Who is the Shiites Council to decide the fate of the STL. Besides has the Shiites council found any killers of Hairi and all the others? where is hezbollah proof that Israel was behind the assassinations other than some surveillance video. The STL has voice recordings and cell phones and many other evidence where the explosives and the tech used were purchased. Besides if Hezbollah is innocent why are they threatening to destroy Lebanon if accused. Come Shiites Council go preach the words of Allah instead of involving in politics too. I guess the must bored out of their wits for having nothing else to do

    1. Amine123 Avatar
      Amine123

      You are talking to a deaf ears, look who is the Chief of these people , “NASRALLAH” he is supposedly a religeous person (hahaha)…. The Lebanese are in for a very tough time unless this BS is stopped ….

      1. youyes4u Avatar
        youyes4u

        Nasrallah the head- master of the of the Terrorists and the thugs,a disgraceful man living in the Land Of The Holy Cedars.This stinky coward mad man should go and live in The Arabian Deserts,in a tent with the camels.Go sucker and take your Terrorists MP’s and supporters with you too.Lebanon is much safer without you.

    2. Amine123 Avatar
      Amine123

      You are talking to a deaf ears, look who is the Chief of these people , “NASRALLAH” he is supposedly a religeous person (hahaha)…. The Lebanese are in for a very tough time unless this BS is stopped ….

      1. youyes4u Avatar
        youyes4u

        Nasrallah the head- master of the of the Terrorists and the thugs,a disgraceful man living in the Land Of The Holy Cedars.This stinky coward mad man should go and live in The Arabian Deserts,in a tent with the camels.Go sucker and take your Terrorists MP’s and supporters with you too.Lebanon is much safer without you.

  16. Avatar
    Anonymous

    If the patriach says something politics the Shiites say do not interfere and of course they send their stooges Aoun and Franjieh to say so on their behalf too. Who is the Shiites Council to decide the fate of the STL. Besides has the Shiites council found any killers of Hairi and all the others? where is hezbollah proof that Israel was behind the assassinations other than some surveillance video. The STL has voice recordings and cell phones and many other evidence where the explosives and the tech used were purchased. Besides if Hezbollah is innocent why are they threatening to destroy Lebanon if accused. Come Shiites Council go preach the words of Allah instead of involving in politics too. I guess the must bored out of their wits for having nothing else to do

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You are talking to a deaf ears, look who is the Chief of these people , “NASRALLAH” he is supposedly a religeous person (hahaha)…. The Lebanese are in for a very tough time unless this BS is stopped ….

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Nasrallah the head- master of the of the Terrorists and the thugs,a disgraceful man living in the Land Of The Holy Cedars.This stinky coward mad man should go and live in The Arabian Deserts,in a tent with the camels.Go sucker and take your Terrorists MP’s and supporters with you too.Lebanon is much safer without you.

  17. Leborigine Avatar
    Leborigine

    What is this?? Star Wars!!

  18. Avatar
    Anonymous

    What is this?? Star Wars!!

  19. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    Why the shiite are so concerned if they are not the real killers ? if Hizbollah members did it without the knowledge of Nasrallah ,simply hand them out for trial and let justice take place , if Nasrallah knew the shiite council must hand Nasrallah fro trial, no one is above the law no matter what it takes , justice will be served eventually. Shiite ocuncil should look what’s happening around , Najjad, Assad, Nasrallah, Khameini they will sit forever, the wave is coming , and soon Bashar , Najjad going to face the people trial, shiite council should know better that no rockets or airplane stopped the Egyptian ,Libyan people, so they should know better that they are dealing with Lebanese here who are ready to go for 100 times what was the cedar revolution about !!!!!! very sooooooooooooooooonnnnn

  20. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    Why the shiite are so concerned if they are not the real killers ? if Hizbollah members did it without the knowledge of Nasrallah ,simply hand them out for trial and let justice take place , if Nasrallah knew the shiite council must hand Nasrallah fro trial, no one is above the law no matter what it takes , justice will be served eventually. Shiite ocuncil should look what’s happening around , Najjad, Assad, Nasrallah, Khameini they will sit forever, the wave is coming , and soon Bashar , Najjad going to face the people trial, shiite council should know better that no rockets or airplane stopped the Egyptian ,Libyan people, so they should know better that they are dealing with Lebanese here who are ready to go for 100 times what was the cedar revolution about !!!!!! very sooooooooooooooooonnnnn

  21. youyes4u Avatar
    youyes4u

    Yeah,obviously your Terrorists and Thugs murdered the Prime Minister and other innocents,with the help from your Ass Holes Neighbors from the North,Duh……do you really need a master scientist to figure this one out ? then, why the rejection, you can attack innocent unarmed peaceful towns thinking well no one cares for these people,so Lebanon stood by and watched. well suckers of Dahia in bunkers and above this one ain’t going to fly,all of you are going to rut in hell,remember what goes around comes around.

  22. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Yeah,obviously your Terrorists and Thugs murdered the Prime Minister and other innocents,with the help from your Ass Holes Neighbors from the North,Duh……do you really need a master scientist to figure this one out ? then, why the rejection, you can attack innocent unarmed peaceful towns thinking well no one cares for these people,so Lebanon stood by and watched. well suckers of Dahia in bunkers and above this one ain’t going to fly,all of you are going to rut in hell,remember what goes around comes around.

  23. tayyar Avatar
    tayyar

    Sfeir divided the Christians all the way since 1990. The Shias are not divided. So to put it simply, when Sfeir talks, he is backing one side over another. When the Shia council talks, it talks on behalf of the whole people it represents. Make sense?

    The STL is unconstitutional – no cabinet nor parliamentary legality.

    Sure, the STL has voice recording – we all heard some of it past few weeks 🙂
    Secondly, why won’t it investigate the false witnesses?
    Thirdly, why the hundreds of leaks from n investigation that is supposedly secret?
    Fourthly, everyone knows HA members use a private communication network to communicate with each other. But let us assume, for arguments sake that they use a general line – have you not being paying attention to the spies in the telecom industry and the weapons siezed? Easily manipulate data. And for Israel, they are aiming to eliminate Resistance, so you think it is not in their aim to distort evidence to try and succeed what they failed from 2006?

    Also, have you not asked yourself the question, why just one day Syria was no longer considered, and the aim shifted towards HA? I am not saying it was Syria or not, but don’t you think it raises credibility (political) issues with the STL?

    Did you also not read wiki leaks when the STL and the US were like a tango dancing couple?

    Everyone knows the STL has turned into a political farce – trying to ignite the civil population. It wants to create a Shia-Sunni strife by accusing a Shia group of killing a Sunni. Geagea is playing along, thinking that he ca be the Christian supreme warrior – when in fact it will be the Christians who will suffer the most from such a scenario.

    HA had nothing to gain from killing Hariri. Hariri was their defense line internationally and domestically. And they never engaged in the dirty political game and never had governmental seats either. After Hariri, and what was being planned thereafter, they had to enter the game reluctantly to defend itself. The last thing HA want is to be drawn into an internal confrontation and weaken it’s presence on the southern border for Israel to exploit.

    Aoun and HA after the MoU asked you to join it – even if you wanted to change a single word. It was the spirit of dialogue to solve issues. But you guys INSIST on a confrontation, all the way to May 5 when you made an illegal and unconstitutional cabinet decision at 4.30am! When you have no plan to defend the country, and when you are offering the head of the population on the chopping bloc – expect them to eventually fight back. When you consistently want to isolate, corner and confront a large section – expect them one day to defend themselves. You didn’t take HA seriously, and HA finally bit back.

    1. youyes4u Avatar
      youyes4u

      Hezbollah,come on now ,your game is over ,stop intimidating us,we ain’t afraid of Terrorists,LAY DOWN YOUR WEAPONS.

    2. youyes4u Avatar
      youyes4u

      Hezbollah,come on now ,your game is over ,stop intimidating us,we ain’t afraid of Terrorists,LAY DOWN YOUR WEAPONS.

  24. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Sfeir divided the Christians all the way since 1990. The Shias are not divided. So to put it simply, when Sfeir talks, he is backing one side over another. When the Shia council talks, it talks on behalf of the whole people it represents. Make sense?

    The STL is unconstitutional – no cabinet nor parliamentary legality.

    Sure, the STL has voice recording – we all heard some of it past few weeks 🙂
    Secondly, why won’t it investigate the false witnesses?
    Thirdly, why the hundreds of leaks from n investigation that is supposedly secret?
    Fourthly, everyone knows HA members use a private communication network to communicate with each other. But let us assume, for arguments sake that they use a general line – have you not being paying attention to the spies in the telecom industry and the weapons siezed? Easily manipulate data. And for Israel, they are aiming to eliminate Resistance, so you think it is not in their aim to distort evidence to try and succeed what they failed from 2006?

    Also, have you not asked yourself the question, why just one day Syria was no longer considered, and the aim shifted towards HA? I am not saying it was Syria or not, but don’t you think it raises credibility (political) issues with the STL?

    Did you also not read wiki leaks when the STL and the US were like a tango dancing couple?

    Everyone knows the STL has turned into a political farce – trying to ignite the civil population. It wants to create a Shia-Sunni strife by accusing a Shia group of killing a Sunni. Geagea is playing along, thinking that he ca be the Christian supreme warrior – when in fact it will be the Christians who will suffer the most from such a scenario.

    HA had nothing to gain from killing Hariri. Hariri was their defense line internationally and domestically. And they never engaged in the dirty political game and never had governmental seats either. After Hariri, and what was being planned thereafter, they had to enter the game reluctantly to defend itself. The last thing HA want is to be drawn into an internal confrontation and weaken it’s presence on the southern border for Israel to exploit.

    Aoun and HA after the MoU asked you to join it – even if you wanted to change a single word. It was the spirit of dialogue to solve issues. But you guys INSIST on a confrontation, all the way to May 5 when you made an illegal and unconstitutional cabinet decision at 4.30am! When you have no plan to defend the country, and when you are offering the head of the population on the chopping bloc – expect them to eventually fight back. When you consistently want to isolate, corner and confront a large section – expect them one day to defend themselves. You didn’t take HA seriously, and HA finally bit back.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Hezbollah,come on now ,your game is over ,stop intimidating us,we ain’t afraid of Terrorists,LAY DOWN YOUR WEAPONS.

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