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March 8 criticizes timing of Erdogan’s visit

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Central news agency (CNA) quoted on Wednesday an unnamed March 8 source as saying that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s visit to Lebanon comes at the wrong time.

“It looks like it is a reaction to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit,” the source said.

The source accused Hariri of monopolizing Erdogan’s visit.

Even though we appreciate the Turkish stance that is open on the Arab and the Muslim level in the region, Erdogan should be at the same distance from everyone, the source also said.

Ahmadinejad’s reception of Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea and Phalange Party leader Amin Gemayel in Baabda was done purposely to show that Iran is at the same distance from everyone although it supports the Resistance, the news agency quoted the source as saying.

“We do not think Erdogan’s visit aims at the same thing .”

The Iranian president was in Lebanon from October 13 to 14 . He had a huge reception by the Iranian and Syrian backed Hezbollah militant group.

While Iran is Muslim Shiite country , Turkey is Muslim Sunnite .

In a related development Industry Minister Apraham Dedeyan , an Armenian minister and a member of the Hezbollah-led March 8 alliance said in an interview to be published Thursday that the Armenian ministers will protest Erdogan’s visit by abstaining from voting on any agreement signed with Turkey.

Dedeyan told Al-Balad that the Armenians would commit to the agreements.

“We cannot forget that Turkey was one of Israel’s strongest allies, and they have now grown apart. We will wait more to know whether the two countries’ ties have really worsened .”

Another March 8 Armenian leader and a member of the Change and Reform bloc MP Hagop Pakradounian criticized the government for the way it handled the protesters against Erdogan’s visit . He told New TV: “Removing the banners condemning Erdogan’s visit is a dictatorial act and I hold the interior minister responsible.”

About a hundred Armenians protested at the airport against Erdogan’s visit, but another group of about 100 supporters welcomed him on his arrival with Turkish and Lebanese flags.

On the other hand Armenian Henshaq MP Sebouh Kalbakian, a member of March 14 alliance said on Wednesday that there is no intent to harm Lebanese-Turkish relations and added, “We know what the Turkish role in the region is today.”

According to a statement issued by the MP on the occasion of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan two-days official visit to Lebanon, Kalbakian said the objection to the visit is out of respect to “martyrs as well [their] memory.”

The MP called on Lebanese, Syrian and Iranian officials who have good relations with Turkey to intervene and call on Turkey to apologize to the Armenians.

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22 responses to “March 8 criticizes timing of Erdogan’s visit”

  1. Lela Avatar
    Lela

    hariri loves turkey let him go move there
    real lebanese do not forget our martyrs, both muslim and christian, massacred at the hands of turks

    1. Nancy Avatar
      Nancy

      YESSS wild people turkish people they killed lebanese and armenians

    2. Nancy Avatar
      Nancy

      YESSS wild people turkish people they killed lebanese and armenians

    3. JadM Avatar
      JadM

      Interesting Lela….if we are to follow your logic behind your comments then let the Shiite and Aoun followers move to Iran and the Sunni to Turkey and Saudi and the amrenians back to armenia as it seems that they are forgetting that Lebanon comes first not their history as armenians, which I as a lebanese do understand their hatred towards tukey but cannot accept it to interfer or stand in the way of the future relations between Lebanon as a COUNTRY and turkey.

      Sheikh Saad Al Hariri is the prime minister of Lebanon and he has been elected by the people to have this position, so for the people who keeps on criticizing his everytime he breaths I tell them it is your right to do so but it is not your right to slammer him with false accusations as you do not read minds and know what he is trying to do for the country. As far as I am concerned more than 60% of the country loves the guy, so respect the majority that has voted for him as we are not kids and most importanatly a person like Saad Al Hariri should be respected as a statesman and not be called a KID by anyone

      1. Lela Avatar
        Lela

        sheikh saad hariri????? haha you made me laugh!!

        how about you put LEBANON first. did you forget what happened on our martyrs day? did you forget how lebanese were treated under ottomans?? how quickly you forget what the turks did. how quickly you forget their collaboration with the zionist entity, and you welcome this garbage man erdogan!! have some respect for lebanese history!

        i dont have a problem with the shia and iranian support because iran did not collaborate with the enemy as turkey did! iran did not massacre lebanese as turkey did!

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Oh yes they did! it depends how far in the history you choose to go back to. I think amnesia is selective with the Lebanese. How about what the Persians did in Lebanon. Read your history. If you choose to go back 100 years to indict someone might as well go back thousands of years to Persian rule and indict Xerxes’ and Darius’ descendants and while you’re at it lets invade Iraq for what Nebuchadnezzar did to Lebanon (oh wait the Americans did that and no Arab lifted a finger) or invade Greece for what Alexander did to Tyre.

    4. JadM Avatar
      JadM

      Interesting Lela….if we are to follow your logic behind your comments then let the Shiite and Aoun followers move to Iran and the Sunni to Turkey and Saudi and the amrenians back to armenia as it seems that they are forgetting that Lebanon comes first not their history as armenians, which I as a lebanese do understand their hatred towards tukey but cannot accept it to interfer or stand in the way of the future relations between Lebanon as a COUNTRY and turkey.

      Sheikh Saad Al Hariri is the prime minister of Lebanon and he has been elected by the people to have this position, so for the people who keeps on criticizing his everytime he breaths I tell them it is your right to do so but it is not your right to slammer him with false accusations as you do not read minds and know what he is trying to do for the country. As far as I am concerned more than 60% of the country loves the guy, so respect the majority that has voted for him as we are not kids and most importanatly a person like Saad Al Hariri should be respected as a statesman and not be called a KID by anyone

      1. Lela Avatar
        Lela

        sheikh saad hariri????? haha you made me laugh!!

        how about you put LEBANON first. did you forget what happened on our martyrs day? did you forget how lebanese were treated under ottomans?? how quickly you forget what the turks did. how quickly you forget their collaboration with the zionist entity, and you welcome this garbage man erdogan!! have some respect for lebanese history!

        i dont have a problem with the shia and iranian support because iran did not collaborate with the enemy as turkey did! iran did not massacre lebanese as turkey did!

    5. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      By the same logic the Jews should launch a total war against Germany, Native Americans should do guerilla warfare Al-Qaeda style against the U.S. and the Chinese should wipe out Japan etc. etc. etc.
      It is a well known fact that massacres happened during the Turkish rule specially against the Armenians and the Maronites but two to three generations had passed and Turkey has been hands off for a while. It would be interesting to see what and how they could help. Honestly, I believe Lebanon is beyond help in a country where kell miin iido elo a failed state ensue.
      The funny thing that I deduct from this forum is that religious or not as soon as someone is rubbed the wrong way everyone polarize towards his or her sect. The Sunni defends Saad, the Shiite defends Nasrallah, and the Christians defend Aoun or Geagea depending which moron they follow. Secular Lebanon is a dream, it will never happen. As soon as Erdogan shows up you see Turkish ancestry Sunni Lebanese 3amm be hayso as if the second coming of Christ, when that midget Ahmadinejad shows up ALL of ummit Ali dances in the streets as if imam Ali himself showed up. Nobody shows allegiance to the country, the land, the state, the army, the people. Lebanon was a dream since its inception but only lip service comes out of its countrymen as their allegiance is somewhere else. The funny part everyone dances to a God who may never look back. If religion was the way to go God would have showed the way to Him in one path one religion and NO there aren’t many roads to Rome. God may have created man but I assure he sent no prophets. Jesus got it right. He said whatever man writes on Earth it shall be written in the heavens. That man was the GENIUS. There is Good in man He believed and Man can rise above the old laws written in the books and adapt to new realities. All religious books were written for a special time and they were never meant for every place and every eon. But I guess it takes a special nation to see it that way and we, Lebanese, are not it. We are not that special after all.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        Yes Hannibal, Lebanese worship their leaders as if they will lead them to heaven. No one is willing to accept criticism of their leaders. The leader is always right, and the people will always follow. Children of our leaders are born gifted to carry the torch, and the people will follow. If you Top that with the power of religious leadership, you ‘ll have a perfect disastrous receipt for sectarian division( like we didn’t have one to start with)
        With the sectarian divide getting sharper by the hour, leaders became guardian of the sects, and holders of the keys to the heavens.
        Unfortunately, most of us do not have enough immunity to fight this disease. The temptation is always there, especially when you are politically associated with the sect you belong too, regardless of your individual views.
        As a result, during the last five years, many secular Lebanese were forced to take cover under the sect’s religious and political leaderships.

  2. Lela Avatar
    Lela

    hariri loves turkey let him go move there
    real lebanese do not forget our martyrs, both muslim and christian, massacred at the hands of turks

    1. Nancy Avatar
      Nancy

      YESSS wild people turkish people they killed lebanese and armenians

    2. JadM Avatar
      JadM

      Interesting Lela….if we are to follow your logic behind your comments then let the Shiite and Aoun followers move to Iran and the Sunni to Turkey and Saudi and the amrenians back to armenia as it seems that they are forgetting that Lebanon comes first not their history as armenians, which I as a lebanese do understand their hatred towards tukey but cannot accept it to interfer or stand in the way of the future relations between Lebanon as a COUNTRY and turkey.

      Sheikh Saad Al Hariri is the prime minister of Lebanon and he has been elected by the people to have this position, so for the people who keeps on criticizing his everytime he breaths I tell them it is your right to do so but it is not your right to slammer him with false accusations as you do not read minds and know what he is trying to do for the country. As far as I am concerned more than 60% of the country loves the guy, so respect the majority that has voted for him as we are not kids and most importanatly a person like Saad Al Hariri should be respected as a statesman and not be called a KID by anyone

      1. Lela Avatar
        Lela

        sheikh saad hariri????? haha you made me laugh!!

        how about you put LEBANON first. did you forget what happened on our martyrs day? did you forget how lebanese were treated under ottomans?? how quickly you forget what the turks did. how quickly you forget their collaboration with the zionist entity, and you welcome this garbage man erdogan!! have some respect for lebanese history!

        i dont have a problem with the shia and iranian support because iran did not collaborate with the enemy as turkey did! iran did not massacre lebanese as turkey did!

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Oh yes they did! it depends how far in the history you choose to go back to. I think amnesia is selective with the Lebanese. How about what the Persians did in Lebanon. Read your history. If you choose to go back 100 years to indict someone might as well go back thousands of years to Persian rule and indict Xerxes’ and Darius’ descendants and while you’re at it lets invade Iraq for what Nebuchadnezzar did to Lebanon (oh wait the Americans did that and no Arab lifted a finger) or invade Greece for what Alexander did to Tyre.

    3. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      By the same logic the Jews should launch a total war against Germany, Native Americans should do guerilla warfare Al-Qaeda style against the U.S. and the Chinese should wipe out Japan etc. etc. etc.
      It is a well known fact that massacres happened during the Turkish rule specially against the Armenians and the Maronites but two to three generations had passed and Turkey has been hands off for a while. It would be interesting to see what and how they could help. Honestly, I believe Lebanon is beyond help in a country where kell miin iido elo a failed state ensue.
      The funny thing that I deduct from this forum is that religious or not as soon as someone is rubbed the wrong way everyone polarize towards his or her sect. The Sunni defends Saad, the Shiite defends Nasrallah, and the Christians defend Aoun or Geagea depending which moron they follow. Secular Lebanon is a dream, it will never happen. As soon as Erdogan shows up you see Turkish ancestry Sunni Lebanese 3amm be hayso as if the second coming of Christ, when that midget Ahmadinejad shows up ALL of ummit Ali dances in the streets as if imam Ali himself showed up. Nobody shows allegiance to the country, the land, the state, the army, the people. Lebanon was a dream since its inception but only lip service comes out of its countrymen as their allegiance is somewhere else. The funny part everyone dances to a God who may never look back. If religion was the way to go God would have showed the way to Him in one path one religion and NO there aren’t many roads to Rome. God may have created man but I assure he sent no prophets. Jesus got it right. He said whatever man writes on Earth it shall be written in the heavens. That man was the GENIUS. There is Good in man He believed and Man can rise above the old laws written in the books and adapt to new realities. All religious books were written for a special time and they were never meant for every place and every eon. But I guess it takes a special nation to see it that way and we, Lebanese, are not it. We are not that special after all.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        Yes Hannibal, Lebanese worship their leaders as if they will lead them to heaven. No one is willing to accept criticism of their leaders. The leader is always right, and the people will always follow. Children of our leaders are born gifted to carry the torch, and the people will follow. If you Top that with the power of religious leadership, you ‘ll have a perfect disastrous receipt for sectarian division( like we didn’t have one to start with)
        With the sectarian divide getting sharper by the hour, leaders became guardian of the sects, and holders of the keys to the heavens.
        Unfortunately, most of us do not have enough immunity to fight this disease. The temptation is always there, especially when you are politically associated with the sect you belong too, regardless of your individual views.
        As a result, during the last five years, many secular Lebanese were forced to take cover under the sect’s religious and political leaderships.

  3. Nancy Avatar
    Nancy

    hariri he is a baby yet he doesnt know anything about history ……. what turkish did to lebanon plus to armenians

  4. Nancy Avatar
    Nancy

    hariri he is a baby yet he doesnt know anything about history ……. what turkish did to lebanon plus to armenians

    1. Lela Avatar
      Lela

      they forgot our lebanese and syrian martyrs. they forgot what happened on may 6. they forgot how turkey was the only muslim country to support and do military deals with israel. they forgot turkey was helping israel to spy on syria and iran.

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