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Phalange: ‘army, people, resistance’ formula is out

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The Phalange Party on Monday responded to the recent events by saying: Hezbollah’s weapons are now “unfortunately only pointed towards the [Lebanese] Interior, and this absolves the government” of the Ministerial Statement’s “army, people, and Resistance” formula.

This came in a statement issued after the weekly meeting of its political bureau.

The statement added:

“Therefore, it’s impermissible any longer that a state official focus on ‘the Resistance’ in speeches and statements, especially at the foreign affairs level.”

The party called on all political factions to abide by “national unity and respect the State and its institutions, decisions and measures.”

Kataeb also urged all parties ” to refrain from talking about invasions, coups and civil strife to avoid dragging the country into the unknown.”

The party called on “the Lebanese State, through all its institutions, especially the governmental, parliamentary, judicial, military and security authorities, to confront with firmness, courage and wisdom anyone who dares to harm internal security and the prestige of state institutions.”

“What is going on these days does not represent a challenge to March 14, March 8 or any political camp, as much as it is a direct challenge to the state authority in particular. Thus, duty calls the State, not anyone else, to speedily shoulder its responsibilities in sparing the country a sectarian strife and preventing the downfall of legitimate institutions and public facilities, such as Beirut’s international airport,” the statement added.

Commenting on Hezbollah’s airport reception thrown for former General Security chief Maj. Gen. Jamil Sayyed, the party said: “What happened in the last few days at the security and judicial levels… is a scary reality that puts the Lebanese entity’s unity before an imminent threat, unless all parties, especially those defying the State, abide by the Constitution’s approach before it is too late.”

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42 responses to “Phalange: ‘army, people, resistance’ formula is out”

  1. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    It is too late! Lebanon is held hostage by “foreign” influence. What’s new? A foreign country invades Iraq albeit a dictatorship and we do nothing. However, show me a country in the Levant which is not a dictatorship. The ONLY reason why foreign soldiers roam freely Arab lands is the sad fact that those foreign entities are being used to control the legitimate people of the land. The Shiites of Iraq rose to power on the tanks of the Americans, the Assad dynasty is in power since the coup which was planned and executed by the CIA and the civil war in Lebanon was all too well executed to fight proxy wars of others on our land because we became whores to push our own sectarian agendas and to suppress the will of the people and kill our brothers for crumbs leftovers from Israel, Syria, Iran, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia to name a few while their countries strive and prosper our sovereignty is “raped” daily by thugs roaming the streets leaving the country and its people with no dignity and a failed state. This feudal system has to end. The ONLY way to end it is unfortunately by a blood bath that should come from the poor people who unfortunately are not willing to pay the price any longer as they are exhausted after years of instability and mayhem. From one b@stard militia to another, from the PLO to the chaotic nineties where thugs went at each others for hegemony over the streets of Beirut, to a Syrian occupation and now a proxy war between Iran, Syria, Israel and the U.S. we are a splintered nation which will never come together. In the meantime, the country bleeds the young leaving to find stability and opportunities at every corner of this world BUT Lebanon. The leaders and the parties of Lebanon ALL failed us and it is time to shed the old and bring the new. The country needs a coup d’etat by the LAFs to restore sovereignty and give back the country to the masses. YET the LAFs are kept “under” by leaving them without weapons and destroying their morales by threatening the state daily under their noses. FAILED STATE!

    1. Sebouh80 Avatar
      Sebouh80

      Walid,

      I could not agree more……

      1. ghaddad Avatar
        ghaddad

        Yes Walid Lebanon was never a normal and structured state and neither you can say about any neighboring states.
        Do you call Syria which owned practically by a ruling family like in Saudi Arabia or jordon or egypt or anywhere else in the middle east? even Iran which a very intellectual country and have developped high tech, can you call them a true nation. A nation the butchered thousands of people during khomeini regimes up to date? a nation who is everything pretty much decided by their supreme leader? A nation whose economy is so bad yet they would rather supports groups like hezbollah and hamas and Al Qaada? Going back to Lebanon it was better frankly under the old administrations than now. But since the coming of Palestinians influx to lebanon that by itself weakend the state. We had only 13 thousands fledgling troops and some form of police. Let’s say forget the past and start a new after syrian dominations for three decades that have done nothing but destroyed the infastructure of lebanon. Yes israel has damaged lebanon for decades too and we cannot forgive israel nor syria for what they have done to Lebanon. But Syria as so called sisterly state instead of rebuilding lebanon. They destroyed it. they stole everything they can get their hands on. They dealt with drug trades and protected criminals and sent us lots of them. They still harbor criminals up to date those from Jaafaries clan that killed 4 LAF soldiers? how can hezbollah not ask for these people to be released back to the state if they want this so called formula ARMY, RESISTANCE and people to be work and be respected?
        Yet they created a war of 2006 to free Samir Quntar. The resistance now are weakening the state and they want us to believe since there is no state, that’s why we’re taking over.. We want to destroy lebanon before we’re accused by the STL. that’s the messages they keep sending thru its leaders that civil strife in the making? they send their thugs to the airport to protect a man wanted for making threats against the PM. A man who prosecuted illegally thousands of lebanese and now he wants compensations on top of it. They flooded the streets of Beirut with their gumen and the airport and they have the audicity to deny it. They’re saying there were no armed presence at the airport. so who was those gumen at the airport dressing in black suits and carrying arms? who were those men who took Jamil Syyed to the lounge and threatened everyone to cut off their arms if anyone lays their hands on him. These words also came from Nassrallah himself. Yes those who do not believe in the states want us to believe there is no state and that’s why we should make decisions for you. If you truly love lebanon and want the formula of Army, Resistance and People to succeed then you work toward it. If you want lebanon to succeed then you protect without selfishness. If you want democracy and you want to people to trust you and believe you in you that you work toward that. Its not fair that the people of the South suffers or per say the Shiite population its job to protect lebanon alone. Its the duty of every lebanese citizen to protect its laws, land and its dignity and freedom. The people of the South suffered a lot and the gov’t owed them a lot. But just because they fought wars with israel, that do not give them rights to control Lebanon like Nasiz? if they’re not guilty of assasinating harriri, then stop your dangerous tactics on TV and on the streets? if you want peace for lebanon stop making the decision of war and peace? if you want to be free of STL, then let it decide the ruling and prove your innocence. The past do not equal the future and stop holding the country hostage to your ideals and your goals that are irrelavent to building a democratic and stable lebanon. Stop acting like you’re the law of the land and let’s share the rules together and work toward civil peace not threatens civil strife everytime we don’t like what anyone says about us. If you want to continue to believe there is no true state of lebanon, then you’re right there will be never be state of lebanon as long as you believe it and make it that way.

    2. Sebouh80 Avatar
      Sebouh80

      Walid,

      I could not agree more……

    3. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Walid,You are absolutely right that, Lebanon is a failed state. I doubt that it will ever become a normal state. It never was, and probably never will be a sovereign nation, where people have the same nationalistic identity.To abolish the feudal system is a noble idea, but it will never be abolished. Those who call themselves saviors of the sect(s) will never let it happen. I’ve argued at this page many times (was attacked for that) that Lebanese have to stop following leaders blindly. Those sectarian and feudal leaders keep producing more of themselves. All political parties including HA, Amal, Future movement, Phalange, LF, use sectarian rhetoric to justify their hold on their own people. They will never allow me to look at you asa fello citizennamed Walid ,but rather as a Christian or Sunni or what ever.Even though sectarian division, and tensions have been there for years, the events that took place during the last five years, and the political environment accompanied them, have created sharper divisions and more dangerous tensions among Lebanese sects. HA and Amal, used the tensions to their own advantage, and solidified the Shiia support behind them.Hariri, not to be outdone, used, and continue to use, the same division and tensions to solidify his leadership on Sunnis in Lebanon. It seems that his mane concern is to lead the greatest majority of the sunnis at any cost. It could be a cost no one can afford to pay.Our Christian brothers, not much behind, are doing their own cat fights to claim leadership of Christians. When Nadime Attacks Iran, Syria or HA, he’s telling his sect; that he’s tougher than Sami, and not a Gegga follower.Gegaa is always jealous of me (The Prophet) and wants to be a Prophet, or the Nassralha of the Christians, where he, and only he, can “protect” them. Aoun, too, went all the way back to the routes in north Syria, to prove that he’s the savior of the Christians in the east.As for He Jumblat, He just ducked, with his sect. He does not have to worry much about competition within his own sect. He’s always the first to feel the wind direction.All of these leaders have been playing a dangerous game of pushing each other to edge of the cliff, making the tension even worse, and pushing the streets to the brink of explosion for any little dispute. It could be a cost no one can afford to pay.Where are we going to end up? Are Lebanese willing to look in the mirrors and admit their own mistakes? Are they willing to stop defending and supporting the sect(s) leaders?Will Lebanese realize ,that their democracy dream will never be delivered by Jumblat, Berri, Nassralla , Hariri, Gegga or Gemayle? I know I’ll get cursed because of this. Would Lebanese realize that Patriach Sfeir ,Mufti Qubai, Sheikh Qubalan , and all other sectarian and religious leaders ,oppose democracy and Civil society to death?They won’t support their own decline.

      1. Abousteif Avatar
        Abousteif

        Hello Hello, Kifak Prophet?

        Well I kinda disagree with one of the people listed on your list of Feudal Leaders. I am referring to Hariri. You know at the time Late Hariri (Allah yir7amo) was in power he had many many enemies not just with other sects but even within his own sect. Many from the Sunni sect didn’t like and envied him. The first PM after he was assasinated was not from his family but was from the same political group and background. When Saad was elected Everyone knows that there are no other Sunni figures in Lebanon that can do the Job the Hariri’s do.
        The reason why I say he is different is because you look at his political group and it constitutes of Muslims Christians from EVERY SINGLE SECT. I mean you name it. His TOP mouth piece for the the past year has been Okab Saqr who FYI is Shiaa. his advisors, his media outlets are all made up of not people from his sect but from all sects that are part of Lebanon’s identity and most importantly are qualified and professional.
        They tried putting in Omar Karami and he didnt even last long enough to finish his term. He was an absolute Joke as a leader.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Mustapha,I agree, and disagree with your assessment.S.Hariri is no R Hariri. Their circumstances are different, and their rise to power is totally different.The late prime mister Hariri always made me proud to be Lebanese, even when I disagreed with some of his economic policies. Rafik Hariri (Allah yerhamou) never was a sectarian leader in the same way other Lebanese leaders were .Though He was from the Sunni sect alkarim, He never presented himself as a leader form one sect, or for one sect. Most Lebanese never thought of him as a Sunni leader. He was a Lebanese leader, and an Arab leader.When he sent out Lebanese students over seas to study, He didn’t look at students’ sect or religion. I have friends who were part of his students program from all sects including many shiia who became very successful because of the opportunities he provided for them.After his assasination, the anger, emotions, and the sectarian (shiia /Sunni) tension that followed changed the attitude of many sunnis.HA close relationship to Syria, and the accusations against Syria for murdering R Hariri, put the Shiia and the Sunnis face to face.Without going into details we all know, Sunnis, and others blamed Syria , and all of Syria’s allies in Lebanon for either his murder ,or for creating an environment that allowed for his murder to take place. Karami paid the price there as well.Sunni community felt that, Assassinating one of the most (if not the most) popular Sunni leader was a threat to its political representation and to its pride as well. All the accusations and, and theories about shiaa/sunni conflict, was seen (rightly or not) by the majority of Shiia as a threat to HA, and the shiia as whole.The Seniora era was responsible for much of those feelings, and for most of these tensions felt on both sides (Shiia and Sunnis). His government’s performance was very poor, and divisive. His handling of the 2006 war and the recovery efforts increase the Shiia distrust in him. PM Saad Hariri inherited a big political legacy at a time he was not prepared for it. The Sunni street was angry; He felt he had to be the strong Sunni leader in Lebanon. He capitalized on the street anger, and on the sympathy the street had for him, and for his family. Many among the Sunnis, who never the needed for a strong Sunni leadership, demanded S. Hariri to take the lead. Many Sunnis, who had no political loyalty to anyone, were drawn in.As a result, Shiia and Sunni communities have lined up behind the main parties. Even none committed Sunnis, lined up along with committed ones. Secular shiia, that normally would not support either HA or Amal ideologically, fell in line, either because of fear, or for protection, or solely for supporting the resistance.Both Hariri and HA/Amal used the election of 2005 to solidify their leaderships.Both have been using the fear tactic ever since. Both directly or not are feeding this frenzy. What they can’t say publicly, they put out their stooges to say.I hope I explained why I included Saad Hariri among other sectarian leaders.I won’t say much about Saqer Bro. He’s just another big mouth being used in this stupid conflict. The fact that He’s a shiia himself, makes no difference .The guy does not have much support among his community anyway. Hariri could do better than Saqer.

        2. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Aboutseif,
          Please ,don’t think that I’m scoring points here, and I don’t think you are either.
          I was not examining his political group or his allies in my original comment, nor was I examining the others and their political allies.
          In my second post, I elaborated more on “the Shiia/Sunni so called conflict” to highlight the difference between the leadership of R.Hariri and the circumstances in which S.Hariri found himself in power. He was in position no one wanted to be in.
          Others like Aoun or HA, or Amal Can say the same about their parliament blocks containing members from different sects. I was addressing the core of the Lebanese problem, not those leaders in particular. Regardless of what names these leaders have, the problem will always be there. It’s about our system, and our Nationalistic identity.
          We have to get beyond our personal feelings when we discuss our leaders. Though I support the resistance, I WON’T support everything their leaders do or say blindly. We need to have the courage to examine our own and see their faults. NO BLIND SUPPORT OR BLIND DEFENSE. The more we evaluate our leaders objectively, the less these leaders would take us for granted. The day they realize that the public (especially their own) are willing to judge them in the polls for what they do or say, the more likely they would start changing. As of now, they know the support is there regardless of what they do or don’t do. We (all Lebanese) need to stop being herds.

          1. Abousteif Avatar
            Abousteif

            I don’t think I can agree more with regards to your point being made. Hats off to you khayeh. You are absolutely right, and its true, even I let my emotions interfere at times. But the main point is every single one of our politicians is to be held accountable regardless.

            Like uncle ben from the spiderman comic said: “WIth great Power comes great responsibility” LOL!

            Peace to you dear brother

            hey what can I say im a HUGE spiderman fan!

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Ya Habibi Ya Abousteif,
          I notice that you are falling victim to what I was complaining about.
          If you read my comment again, you’d realize that I was not evaluating the events that took place during the last 5 years, as much as the negative effect they had.
          The Sunni anger is understood, the Sunni hurt is understood. I’m not asking you to justify their Ta3assob, or explain it either. I understand very well how it started. We may disagree on some details, but I’m not defending HA for everything they did. And I don’t want you to defend Siniora for everything He did.
          Both sides were guilty. Both sides made deadly mistakes.Every one in Lebanon was guilty for supporting them blindly. My whole point in my original response to Walid was that our leaders are all guilty of instigating the sectarian tension , and using it to their own advantage. We are being herds.

      2. Abousteif Avatar
        Abousteif

        Hello Hello, Kifak Prophet?

        Well I kinda disagree with one of the people listed on your list of Feudal Leaders. I am referring to Hariri. You know at the time Late Hariri (Allah yir7amo) was in power he had many many enemies not just with other sects but even within his own sect. Many from the Sunni sect didn’t like and envied him. The first PM after he was assasinated was not from his family but was from the same political group and background. When Saad was elected Everyone knows that there are no other Sunni figures in Lebanon that can do the Job the Hariri’s do.
        The reason why I say he is different is because you look at his political group and it constitutes of Muslims Christians from EVERY SINGLE SECT. I mean you name it. His TOP mouth piece for the the past year has been Okab Saqr who FYI is Shiaa. his advisors, his media outlets are all made up of not people from his sect but from all sects that are part of Lebanon’s identity and most importantly are qualified and professional.
        They tried putting in Omar Karami and he didnt even last long enough to finish his term. He was an absolute Joke as a leader.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Mustapha,I agree, and disagree with your assessment.S.Hariri is no R Hariri. Their circumstances are different, and their rise to power is totally different.The late prime mister Hariri always made me proud to be Lebanese, even when I disagreed with some of his economic policies. Rafik Hariri (Allah yerhamou) never was a sectarian leader in the same way other Lebanese leaders were .Though He was from the Sunni sect alkarim, He never presented himself as a leader form one sect, or for one sect. Most Lebanese never thought of him as a Sunni leader. He was a Lebanese leader, and an Arab leader.When he sent out Lebanese students over seas to study, He didn’t look at students’ sect or religion. I have friends who were part of his students program from all sects including many shiia who became very successful because of the opportunities he provided for them.After his assasination, the anger, emotions, and the sectarian (shiia /Sunni) tension that followed changed the attitude of many sunnis.HA close relationship to Syria, and the accusations against Syria for murdering R Hariri, put the Shiia and the Sunnis face to face.Without going into details we all know, Sunnis, and others blamed Syria , and all of Syria’s allies in Lebanon for either his murder ,or for creating an environment that allowed for his murder to take place. Karami paid the price there as well.Sunni community felt that, Assassinating one of the most (if not the most) popular Sunni leader was a threat to its political representation and to its pride as well. All the accusations and, and theories about shiaa/sunni conflict, was seen (rightly or not) by the majority of Shiia as a threat to HA, and the shiia as whole.The Seniora era was responsible for much of those feelings, and for most of these tensions felt on both sides (Shiia and Sunnis). His government’s performance was very poor, and divisive. His handling of the 2006 war and the recovery efforts increase the Shiia distrust in him. PM Saad Hariri inherited a big political legacy at a time he was not prepared for it. The Sunni street was angry; He felt he had to be the strong Sunni leader in Lebanon. He capitalized on the street anger, and on the sympathy the street had for him, and for his family. Many among the Sunnis, who never the needed for a strong Sunni leadership, demanded S. Hariri to take the lead. Many Sunnis, who had no political loyalty to anyone, were drawn in.As a result, Shiia and Sunni communities have lined up behind the main parties. Even none committed Sunnis, lined up along with committed ones. Secular shiia, that normally would not support either HA or Amal ideologically, fell in line, either because of fear, or for protection, or solely for supporting the resistance.Both Hariri and HA/Amal used the election of 2005 to solidify their leaderships.Both have been using the fear tactic ever since. Both directly or not are feeding this frenzy. What they can’t say publicly, they put out their stooges to say.I hope I explained why I included Saad Hariri among other sectarian leaders.I won’t say much about Saqer Bro. He’s just another big mouth being used in this stupid conflict. The fact that He’s a shiia himself, makes no difference .The guy does not have much support among his community anyway. Hariri could do better than Saqer.

        2. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Aboutseif,
          Please ,don’t think that I’m scoring points here, and I don’t think you are either.
          I was not examining his political group or his allies in my original comment, nor was I examining the others and their political allies.
          In my second post, I elaborated more on “the Shiia/Sunni so called conflict” to highlight the difference between the leadership of R.Hariri and the circumstances in which S.Hariri found himself in power. He was in position no one wanted to be in.
          Others like Aoun or HA, or Amal Can say the same about their parliament blocks containing members from different sects. I was addressing the core of the Lebanese problem, not those leaders in particular. Regardless of what names these leaders have, the problem will always be there. It’s about our system, and our Nationalistic identity.
          We have to get beyond our personal feelings when we discuss our leaders. Though I support the resistance, I WON’T support everything their leaders do or say blindly. We need to have the courage to examine our own and see their faults. NO BLIND SUPPORT OR BLIND DEFENSE. The more we evaluate our leaders objectively, the less these leaders would take us for granted. The day they realize that the public (especially their own) are willing to judge them in the polls for what they do or say, the more likely they would start changing. As of now, they know the support is there regardless of what they do or don’t do. We (all Lebanese) need to stop being herds.

          1. Abousteif Avatar
            Abousteif

            I don’t think I can agree more with regards to your point being made. Hats off to you khayeh. You are absolutely right, and its true, even I let my emotions interfere at times. But the main point is every single one of our politicians is to be held accountable regardless.

            Like uncle ben from the spiderman comic said: “WIth great Power comes great responsibility” LOL!

            Peace to you dear brother

            hey what can I say im a HUGE spiderman fan!

      3. Abousteif Avatar
        Abousteif

        Hello Hello, Kifak Prophet?

        Well I kinda disagree with one of the people listed on your list of Feudal Leaders. I am referring to Hariri. You know at the time Late Hariri (Allah yir7amo) was in power he had many many enemies not just with other sects but even within his own sect. Many from the Sunni sect didn’t like and envied him. The first PM after he was assasinated was not from his family but was from the same political group and background. When Saad was elected Everyone knows that there are no other Sunni figures in Lebanon that can do the Job the Hariri’s do.
        The reason why I say he is different is because you look at his political group and it constitutes of Muslims Christians from EVERY SINGLE SECT. I mean you name it. His TOP mouth piece for the the past year has been Okab Saqr who FYI is Shiaa. his advisors, his media outlets are all made up of not people from his sect but from all sects that are part of Lebanon’s identity and most importantly are qualified and professional.
        They tried putting in Omar Karami and he didnt even last long enough to finish his term. He was an absolute Joke as a leader.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Aboutseif,
          Please ,don’t think that I’m scoring points here, and I don’t think you are either.
          I was not examining his political group or his allies in my original comment, nor was I examining the others and their political allies.
          In my second post, I elaborated more on “the Shiia/Sunni so called conflict” to highlight the difference between the leadership of R.Hariri and the circumstances in which S.Hariri found himself in power. He was in position no one wanted to be in.
          Others like Aoun or HA, or Amal Can say the same about their parliament blocks containing members from different sects. I was addressing the core of the Lebanese problem, not those leaders in particular. Regardless of what names these leaders have, the problem will always be there. It’s about our system, and our Nationalistic identity.
          We have to get beyond our personal feelings when we discuss our leaders. Though I support the resistance, I WON’T support everything their leaders do or say blindly. We need to have the courage to examine our own and see their faults. NO BLIND SUPPORT OR BLIND DEFENSE. The more we evaluate our leaders objectively, the less these leaders would take us for granted. The day they realize that the public (especially their own) are willing to judge them in the polls for what they do or say, the more likely they would start changing. As of now, they know the support is there regardless of what they do or don’t do. We (all Lebanese) need to stop being herds.

      4. Abousteif Avatar
        Abousteif

        The thing is the Hizzy decided to Stand up for Syria once it was being blamed for the Assassination. They had no political weight what so ever and the second Syria withdrew from Lebanon the Hizzy immediately came out and openly made it clear that if Syria isn’t physically in Lebanon then we will represent it. They setup a political wing and it began.

        I completely disagree with you Prophet with regards to PM Seniora. I personally find the man on par with Hariri if not even better. He did whatever it takes not to instigate problems but the HIzzy didn’t want any of it. You want to asses his government.. How about watching his colleagues picked one by one and being killed(all the assassinations that took place after the first one that shook the country) How about 18 month sit in crippling the entire country while he is forced to be seized at home. How about a one month war that took Lebanon back to the Flintstones ages. What about seizure of the capital with innocent lives lost. Everything that happened was happening not because Seniora is bad, or the sunnis started to become more mit3asbeen. It happened because the Hizzy saw chance to infiltrate and begin to become the dominant force in Lebanon and the Shiaa in full majority supported it.

        The Sunni’s of Lebanon became mit3asbeen, i think that is true and i think they are now. But it isn’t because Hariri was assassinated, its because the Hizzy decided to stand in the Sunni’s face while they are down. Because they made one provocation after the other up until we are talking right now. It started with that day March 8, which the HIzzy supporters took the street to creating this majority Shiaa driven riot, which in turn caused not just all the sunni’s but surprisingly majority Christians to take the streets. That is when it all started.

        Time after time Saad hariri has been stretching his hand out, and making concessions and giving away in order to show that there is a will to get closer but time and time the hizzy has done nothing but do the opposite and take advantage. How can you say that the sunni’s or anyone else in the country are scaring the HIzzy and the Shia as a whole?

        The point i was making about Sakr is that he is Shi3eh and that Hariri works with all confessions the late harriri and Jr. But you made a point that he has no political weight. There you are wrong he might not have political weight from the Shiaa community but he has it from every other. And why would you say Harir can do better then Sakr? he is professional, he is educated, his background and experience is solely directed with 2 main things working towards building gaps and promoting interfaith between islam and chsritianity and journalism. He isn’t acting upon his confession but upon his patriotism.

      5. Abousteif Avatar
        Abousteif

        The thing is the Hizzy decided to Stand up for Syria once it was being blamed for the Assassination. They had no political weight what so ever and the second Syria withdrew from Lebanon the Hizzy immediately came out and openly made it clear that if Syria isn’t physically in Lebanon then we will represent it. They setup a political wing and it began.

        I completely disagree with you Prophet with regards to PM Seniora. I personally find the man on par with Hariri if not even better. He did whatever it takes not to instigate problems but the HIzzy didn’t want any of it. You want to asses his government.. How about watching his colleagues picked one by one and being killed(all the assassinations that took place after the first one that shook the country) How about 18 month sit in crippling the entire country while he is forced to be seized at home. How about a one month war that took Lebanon back to the Flintstones ages. What about seizure of the capital with innocent lives lost. Everything that happened was happening not because Seniora is bad, or the sunnis started to become more mit3asbeen. It happened because the Hizzy saw chance to infiltrate and begin to become the dominant force in Lebanon and the Shiaa in full majority supported it.

        The Sunni’s of Lebanon became mit3asbeen, i think that is true and i think they are now. But it isn’t because Hariri was assassinated, its because the Hizzy decided to stand in the Sunni’s face while they are down. Because they made one provocation after the other up until we are talking right now. It started with that day March 8, which the HIzzy supporters took the street to creating this majority Shiaa driven riot, which in turn caused not just all the sunni’s but surprisingly majority Christians to take the streets. That is when it all started.

        Time after time Saad hariri has been stretching his hand out, and making concessions and giving away in order to show that there is a will to get closer but time and time the hizzy has done nothing but do the opposite and take advantage. How can you say that the sunni’s or anyone else in the country are scaring the HIzzy and the Shia as a whole?

        The point i was making about Sakr is that he is Shi3eh and that Hariri works with all confessions the late harriri and Jr. But you made a point that he has no political weight. There you are wrong he might not have political weight from the Shiaa community but he has it from every other. And why would you say Harir can do better then Sakr? he is professional, he is educated, his background and experience is solely directed with 2 main things working towards building gaps and promoting interfaith between islam and chsritianity and journalism. He isn’t acting upon his confession but upon his patriotism.

  2. Walid Khouri Avatar
    Walid Khouri

    It is too late! Lebanon is held hostage by “foreign” influence. What’s new? A foreign country invades Iraq albeit a dictatorship and we do nothing. However, show me a country in the Levant which is not a dictatorship. The ONLY reason why foreign soldiers roam freely Arab lands is the sad fact that those foreign entities are being used to control the legitimate people of the land. The Shiites of Iraq rose to power on the tanks of the Americans, the Assad dynasty is in power since the coup which was planned and executed by the CIA and the civil war in Lebanon was all too well executed to fight proxy wars of others on our land because we became whores to push our own sectarian agendas and to suppress the will of the people and kill our brothers for crumbs leftovers from Israel, Syria, Iran, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia to name a few while their countries strive and prosper our sovereignty is “raped” daily by thugs roaming the streets leaving the country and its people with no dignity and a failed state. This feudal system has to end. The ONLY way to end it is unfortunately by a blood bath that should come from the poor people who unfortunately are not willing to pay the price any longer as they are exhausted after years of instability and mayhem. From one b@stard militia to another, from the PLO to the chaotic nineties where thugs went at each others for hegemony over the streets of Beirut, to a Syrian occupation and now a proxy war between Iran, Syria, Israel and the U.S. we are a splintered nation which will never come together. In the meantime, the country bleeds the young leaving to find stability and opportunities at every corner of this world BUT Lebanon. The leaders and the parties of Lebanon ALL failed us and it is time to shed the old and bring the new. The country needs a coup d’etat by the LAFs to restore sovereignty and give back the country to the masses. YET the LAFs are kept “under” by leaving them without weapons and destroying their morales by threatening the state daily under their noses. FAILED STATE!

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      Anonymous

      Walid,

      I could not agree more……

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        Anonymous

        Yes Walid Lebanon was never a normal and structured state and neither you can say about any neighboring states.

        Do you call Syria which owned practically by a ruling family like in Saudi Arabia or jordon or egypt or anywhere else in the middle east? even Iran which a very intellectual country and have developped high tech, can you call them a true nation. A nation the butchered thousands of people during khomeini regimes up to date? a nation who is everything pretty much decided by their supreme leader? A nation whose economy is so bad yet they would rather supports groups like hezbollah and hamas and Al Qaada? Going back to Lebanon it was better frankly under the old administrations than now. But since the coming of Palestinians influx to lebanon that by itself weakend the state. We had only 13 thousands fledgling troops and some form of police. Let’s say forget the past and start a new after syrian dominations for three decades that have done nothing but destroyed the infastructure of lebanon. Yes israel has damaged lebanon for decades too and we cannot forgive israel nor syria for what they have done to Lebanon. But Syria as so called sisterly state instead of rebuilding lebanon. They destroyed it. they stole everything they can get their hands on. They dealt with drug trades and protected criminals and sent us lots of them. They still harbor criminals up to date those from Jaafaries clan that killed 4 LAF soldiers? how can hezbollah not ask for these people to be released back to the state if they want this so called formula ARMY, RESISTANCE and people to be work and be respected?

        Yet they created a war of 2006 to free Samir Quntar. The resistance now are weakening the state and they want us to believe since there is no state, that’s why we’re taking over.. We want to destroy lebanon before we’re accused by the STL. that’s the messages they keep sending thru its leaders that civil strife in the making? they send their thugs to the airport to protect a man wanted for making threats against the PM. A man who prosecuted illegally thousands of lebanese and now he wants compensations on top of it. They flooded the streets of Beirut with their gumen and the airport and they have the audicity to deny it. They’re saying there were no armed presence at the airport. so who was those gumen at the airport dressing in black suits and carrying arms? who were those men who took Jamil Syyed to the lounge and threatened everyone to cut off their arms if anyone lays their hands on him. These words also came from Nassrallah himself. Yes those who do not believe in the states want us to believe there is no state and that’s why we should make decisions for you. If you truly love lebanon and want the formula of Army, Resistance and People to succeed then you work toward it. If you want lebanon to succeed then you protect without selfishness. If you want democracy and you want to people to trust you and believe you in you that you work toward that. Its not fair that the people of the South suffers or per say the Shiite population its job to protect lebanon alone. Its the duty of every lebanese citizen to protect its laws, land and its dignity and freedom. The people of the South suffered a lot and the gov’t owed them a lot. But just because they fought wars with israel, that do not give them rights to control Lebanon like Nasiz? if they’re not guilty of assasinating harriri, then stop your dangerous tactics on TV and on the streets? if you want peace for lebanon stop making the decision of war and peace? if you want to be free of STL, then let it decide the ruling and prove your innocence. The past do not equal the future and stop holding the country hostage to your ideals and your goals that are irrelavent to building a democratic and stable lebanon. Stop acting like you’re the law of the land and let’s share the rules together and work toward civil peace not threatens civil strife everytime we don’t like what anyone says about us. If you want to continue to believe there is no true state of lebanon, then you’re right there will be never be state of lebanon as long as you believe it and make it that way.

    2. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Walid,
      You are absolutely right that, Lebanon is a failed state. I doubt that it will ever become a normal state. It never was, and probably never will be a sovereign nation, where people have the same nationalistic identity.
      To abolish the feudal system is a noble idea, but it will never be abolished. Those who call themselves saviors of the sect(s) will never let it happen.
      I’ve argued at this page many times (and was attacked many times because of that) that Lebanese have to stop following leaders blindly. Those sectarian and feudal leaders keep producing more of themselves.
      All political parties including HA, Amal, Future movement, Phalange, LF, use sectarian rhetoric to justify their hold on their own people.
      They will never allow me to look at you as Walid, and not as a Christian or Sunni or what ever.

      Even though sectarian division, and tensions have been there for years, the events that took place during the last five years, and the political environment accompanied them, have created sharper divisions and more dangerous tensions among Lebanese sects.
      HA and Amal, used the tensions to their own advantage, and solidified the Shiia support behind them.
      Hariri, not to be outdone, used, and continue to use, the same division and tensions to solidify his leadership on Sunnis in Lebanon. It seems that his mane concern is to lead the greatest majority of the sunnis at any cost. It could be a cost no one can afford to pay.
      Our Christian brothers, not much behind, are doing their own cat fights to claim leadership of Christians.
      When Nadime Attacks Iran, Syria or HA, he’s telling his sect; that he’s tougher than Sami, and not a Gegga follower.

      Gegaa is always jealous of me (The Prophet) and wants to be a Prophet, or the Nassralha of the Christians, where he, and only he, can “protect” them.
      Aoun, too, went all the way back to the routes in north Syria, to prove that he’s the savior of the Christians in the east.
      As for He Jumblat, He just ducked, with his sect. He does not have to worry much about competition within his own sect. He’s always the first to feel the wind direction.
      All of these leaders have been playing a dangerous game of pushing each other to edge of the cliff, making the tension even worse, and pushing the streets to the brink of explosion for any little dispute.
      It could be a cost no one can afford to pay.
      Where are we going to end up? Are Lebanese willing to look in the mirrors and admit their own mistakes? Are they willing to stop defending and supporting the sect(s) leaders?
      Will Lebanese realize ,that their democracy dream will never be delivered by Jumblat, Berri, Nassralla , Hariri, Gegga or Gemayle?
      I know I’ll get cursed because of this. Would Lebanese realize that Patriach Sfeir ,Mufti Qubai, Sheikh Qubalan , and all other sectarian and religious leaders ,oppose democracy and Civil society to death?
      They won’t support their own decline.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Hello Hello, Kifak Prophet?

        Well I kinda disagree with one of the people listed on your list of Feudal Leaders. I am referring to Hariri. You know at the time Late Hariri (Allah yir7amo) was in power he had many many enemies not just with other sects but even within his own sect. Many from the Sunni sect didn’t like and envied him. The first PM after he was assasinated was not from his family but was from the same political group and background. When Saad was elected Everyone knows that there are no other Sunni figures in Lebanon that can do the Job the Hariri’s do.
        The reason why I say he is different is because you look at his political group and it constitutes of Muslims Christians from EVERY SINGLE SECT. I mean you name it. His TOP mouth piece for the the past year has been Okab Saqr who FYI is Shiaa. his advisors, his media outlets are all made up of not people from his sect but from all sects that are part of Lebanon’s identity and most importantly are qualified and professional.
        They tried putting in Omar Karami and he didnt even last long enough to finish his term. He was an absolute Joke as a leader.

        1. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Mustapha,

          I agree, and disagree with your assessment.

          S.Hariri is no R Hariri. Their circumstances are different, and their rise to power is totally different.

          The late prime mister Hariri always made me proud to be Lebanese, even when I disagreed with some of his economic policies

          . Rafik Hariri (Allah yerhamou) never was a sectarian leader in the same way other Lebanese leaders were .Though He was from the Sunni sect alkarim, He never presented himself as a leader form one sect, or for one sect. Most Lebanese never thought of him as a Sunni leader. He was a Lebanese leader, and an Arab leader.

          When he sent out Lebanese students over seas to study, He didn’t look at students’ sect or religion. I have friends who were part of his students program from all sects including many shiia who became very successful because of the opportunities he provided for them.

          After his assignation, the anger, emotions, and the sectarian (shiia /Sunni) tension that followed changed the attitude of many sunnis.HA close relationship to Syria, and the accusations against Syria for murdering R Hariri, put the Shiia and the Sunnis face to face.

          Without going into details we all know, Sunnis, and others blamed Syria , and all of Syria’s allies in Lebanon for either his murder ,or for creating an environment that allowed for his murder to take place. Karami paid the price there as well.

          Sunni community felt that, Assassinating one of the most (if not the most) popular Sunni leader was a threat to its political representation and to its pride as well.

          All the accusations and, and theories about shiaa/sunni conflict, was seen (rightly or not) by the majority of Shiia as a threat to HA, and the shiia as whole.

          The Seniora era was responsible for much of those feelings, and for most of these tensions felt on both sides (Shiia and Sunnis). His government’s performance was very poor, and divisive. His handling of the 2006 war and the recovery efforts increase the Shiia distrust in him.

          PM Saad Hariri inherited a big political legacy at a time he was not prepared for it. The Sunni street was angry; He felt he had to be the strong Sunni leader in Lebanon.

          He capitalized on the street anger, and on the sympathy the street had for him, and for his family. Many among the Sunnis, who never the needed for a strong Sunni leadership, demanded S. Hariri to take the lead. Many Sunnis, who had no political loyalty to anyone, were drawn in.

          As a result, Shiia and Sunni communities have lined up behind the main parties. Even none committed Sunnis, lined up along with committed ones. Secular shiia, that normally would not support either HA or Amal ideologically, fell in line, either because of fear, or for protection, or solely for supporting the resistance.

          Both Hariri and HA/Amal used the election of 2005 to solidify their leaderships.

          Both have been using the fear tactic ever since. Both directly or not are feeding this frenzy. What they can’t say publicly, they put out their stooges to say.

          I hope I explained why I included Saad Hariri among other sectarian leaders.

          I won’t say much about Saqer Bro. He’s just another big mouth being used in this stupid conflict. The fact that He’s a shiia himself, makes no difference .The guy does not have much support among his community anyway. Hariri could do better than Saqer.

        2. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Aboutseif,

          Please ,don’t think that I’m scoring points here, and I don’t think you are either.

          I was not examining his political group or his allies in my original comment, nor was I examining the others and their political allies.

          In my second post, I elaborated more on “the Shiia/Sunni so called conflict” to highlight the difference between the leadership of R.Hariri and the circumstances in which S.Hariri found himself in power. He was in position no one wanted to be in.

          Others like Aoun or HA, or Amal Can say the same about their parliament blocks containing members from different sects. I was addressing the core of the Lebanese problem, not those leaders in particular. Regardless of what names these leaders have, the problem will always be there. It’s about our system, and our Nationalistic identity.

          We have to get beyond our personal feelings when we discuss our leaders. Though I support the resistance, I WON’T support everything their leaders do or say blindly. We need to have the courage to examine our own and see their faults. NO BLIND SUPPORT OR BLIND DEFENSE. The more we evaluate our leaders objectively, the less these leaders would take us for granted. The day they realize that the public (especially their own) are willing to judge them in the polls for what they do or say, the more likely they would start changing. As of now, they know the support is there regardless of what they do or don’t do. We (all Lebanese) need to stop being herds.

          1. Avatar
            Anonymous

            I don’t think I can agree more with regards to your point being made. Hats off to you khayeh. You are absolutely right, and its true, even I let my emotions interfere at times. But the main point is every single one of our politicians is to be held accountable regardless.

            Like uncle ben from the spiderman comic said: “WIth great Power comes great responsibility” LOL!

            Peace to you dear brother

            hey what can I say im a HUGE spiderman fan!

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Ya Habibi Ya Abousteif,

          I notice that you are falling victim to what I was complaining about.

          If you read my comment again, you’d realize that I was not evaluating the events that took place during the last 5 years, as much as the negative effect they had.

          The Sunni anger is understood, the Sunni hurt is understood. I’m not asking you to justify their Ta3assob, or explain it either. I understand very well how it started. We may disagree on some details, but I’m not defending HA for everything they did. And I don’t want you to defend Siniora for everything He did.

          Both sides were guilty. Both sides made deadly mistakes.Every one in Lebanon was guilty for supporting them blindly. My whole point in my original response to Walid was that our leaders are all guilty of instigating the sectarian tension , and using it to their own advantage. We are being herds.

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        The thing is the Hizzy decided to Stand up for Syria once it was being blamed for the Assassination. They had no political weight what so ever and the second Syria withdrew from Lebanon the Hizzy immediately came out and openly made it clear that if Syria isn’t physically in Lebanon then we will represent it. They setup a political wing and it began.

        I completely disagree with you Prophet with regards to PM Seniora. I personally find the man on par with Hariri if not even better. He did whatever it takes not to instigate problems but the HIzzy didn’t want any of it. You want to asses his government.. How about watching his colleagues picked one by one and being killed(all the assassinations that took place after the first one that shook the country) How about 18 month sit in crippling the entire country while he is forced to be seized at home. How about a one month war that took Lebanon back to the Flintstones ages. What about seizure of the capital with innocent lives lost. Everything that happened was happening not because Seniora is bad, or the sunnis started to become more mit3asbeen. It happened because the Hizzy saw chance to infiltrate and begin to become the dominant force in Lebanon and the Shiaa in full majority supported it.

        The Sunni’s of Lebanon became mit3asbeen, i think that is true and i think they are now. But it isn’t because Hariri was assassinated, its because the Hizzy decided to stand in the Sunni’s face while they are down. Because they made one provocation after the other up until we are talking right now. It started with that day March 8, which the HIzzy supporters took the street to creating this majority Shiaa driven riot, which in turn caused not just all the sunni’s but surprisingly majority Christians to take the streets. That is when it all started.

        Time after time Saad hariri has been stretching his hand out, and making concessions and giving away in order to show that there is a will to get closer but time and time the hizzy has done nothing but do the opposite and take advantage. How can you say that the sunni’s or anyone else in the country are scaring the HIzzy and the Shia as a whole?

        The point i was making about Sakr is that he is Shi3eh and that Hariri works with all confessions the late harriri and Jr. But you made a point that he has no political weight. There you are wrong he might not have political weight from the Shiaa community but he has it from every other. And why would you say Harir can do better then Sakr? he is professional, he is educated, his background and experience is solely directed with 2 main things working towards building gaps and promoting interfaith between islam and chsritianity and journalism. He isn’t acting upon his confession but upon his patriotism.

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        The thing is the Hizzy decided to Stand up for Syria once it was being blamed for the Assassination. They had no political weight what so ever and the second Syria withdrew from Lebanon the Hizzy immediately came out and openly made it clear that if Syria isn’t physically in Lebanon then we will represent it. They setup a political wing and it began.

        I completely disagree with you Prophet with regards to PM Seniora. I personally find the man on par with Hariri if not even better. He did whatever it takes not to instigate problems but the HIzzy didn’t want any of it. You want to asses his government.. How about watching his colleagues picked one by one and being killed(all the assassinations that took place after the first one that shook the country) How about 18 month sit in crippling the entire country while he is forced to be seized at home. How about a one month war that took Lebanon back to the Flintstones ages. What about seizure of the capital with innocent lives lost. Everything that happened was happening not because Seniora is bad, or the sunnis started to become more mit3asbeen. It happened because the Hizzy saw chance to infiltrate and begin to become the dominant force in Lebanon and the Shiaa in full majority supported it.

        The Sunni’s of Lebanon became mit3asbeen, i think that is true and i think they are now. But it isn’t because Hariri was assassinated, its because the Hizzy decided to stand in the Sunni’s face while they are down. Because they made one provocation after the other up until we are talking right now. It started with that day March 8, which the HIzzy supporters took the street to creating this majority Shiaa driven riot, which in turn caused not just all the sunni’s but surprisingly majority Christians to take the streets. That is when it all started.

        Time after time Saad hariri has been stretching his hand out, and making concessions and giving away in order to show that there is a will to get closer but time and time the hizzy has done nothing but do the opposite and take advantage. How can you say that the sunni’s or anyone else in the country are scaring the HIzzy and the Shia as a whole?

        The point i was making about Sakr is that he is Shi3eh and that Hariri works with all confessions the late harriri and Jr. But you made a point that he has no political weight. There you are wrong he might not have political weight from the Shiaa community but he has it from every other. And why would you say Harir can do better then Sakr? he is professional, he is educated, his background and experience is solely directed with 2 main things working towards building gaps and promoting interfaith between islam and chsritianity and journalism. He isn’t acting upon his confession but upon his patriotism.

  3. ghzayel Avatar
    ghzayel

    eventhough some critics might say it is too little too late, at least and finally the phalange party folks are waking up and beginning to defend themselves and start making sense.

    the efforts that the gemayel leaders are undertaking in solo are appreciated since they are bringing into the lebanese political equation a different strong christian voice and an opposing point of view that dares to question the legality and the need of the various armed groups including hezballah, operating outside the control of the central government.

    nevertheless, the phalange party with all their patriotic intentions cannot go with their recently adopted slogan “army, people, resistance is out” any further without resolving the following issues:

    1-obtain the full support of the 14th of march coalition or what is left of it. it is also crucial to get the total and unwavering approval of the sunni and druze leadership if jumblatt and hariri decided to stick around in the coalition.

    2- try to get the support of the maronite patriarch, the lebanese president and or the laf or in the worst case scenario try to obtain their neutrality.

    3- discuss a defense strategy regarding the illegal groups’ weapons operating on lebanese territories in the event these groups decided to use their weapons against lebanese to impose their political agenda by force.

    4- prepare for a worst case scenario plan, if everything else fails and find allies in the arab and international communities to counter any hostile syrian and or iranian intervention via their proxies on the ground.

    1. maria_h Avatar
      maria_h

      5- dig a hole 10 ft deep and place aoun in it and fill with kh@rr@ then cover with cement

    2. maria_h Avatar
      maria_h

      5- dig a hole 10 ft deep and place aoun in it and fill with kh@rr@ then cover with cement

    3. maria_h Avatar
      maria_h

      5- dig a hole 10 ft deep and place aoun in it and fill with kh@rr@ then cover with cement

  4. Avatar
    Anonymous

    eventhough some critics might say it is too little too late, at least and finally the phalange party folks are waking up and beginning to defend themselves and start making sense.

    the efforts that the gemayel leaders are undertaking in solo are appreciated since they are bringing into the lebanese political equation a different strong christian voice and an opposing point of view that dares to question the legality and the need of the various armed groups including hezballah, operating outside the control of the central government.

    nevertheless, the phalange party with all their patriotic intentions cannot go with their recently adopted slogan “army, people, resistance is out” any further without resolving the following issues:

    1-obtain the full support of the 14th of march coalition or what is left of it. it is also crucial to get the total and unwavering approval of the sunni and druze leadership if jumblatt and hariri decided to stick around in the coalition.

    2- try to get the support of the maronite patriarch, the lebanese president and or the laf or in the worst case scenario try to obtain their neutrality.

    3- discuss a defense strategy regarding the illegal groups’ weapons operating on lebanese territories in the event these groups decided to use their weapons against lebanese to impose their political agenda by force.

    4- prepare for a worst case scenario plan, if everything else fails and find allies in the arab and international communities to counter any hostile syrian and or iranian intervention via their proxies on the ground.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      5- dig a hole 10 ft deep and place aoun in it and fill with kh@rr@ then cover with cement

  5. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
    Jean Jacques Francois

    Bonjour Maria, pls don’t forget to bury this traitor with his mental pills – we don’t want him to go too crazy.

    1. maria_h Avatar
      maria_h

      Hi JJF……if it were upto me, the hole would be much larger and would include every political figure along with their families from a to z…….I would also do this in oozai as the smell would blend right in

    2. maria_h Avatar
      maria_h

      Hi JJF……if it were upto me, the hole would be much larger and would include every political figure along with their families from a to z…….I would also do this in oozai as the smell would blend right in

  6. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
    Jean Jacques Francois

    Bonjour Maria, pls don’t forget to bury this traitor with his mental pills – we don’t want him to go too crazy.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Hi JJF……if it were upto me, the hole would be much larger and would include every political figure along with their families from a to z…….I would also do this in oozai as the smell would blend right in

  7. ghaddad Avatar
    ghaddad

    First I applogize I was just plain angry with with all the things hezbollah is getting with and its frustrating not even the gov’t is doing anything to stop them. That’s why i said what I said and they kill innocent from our side so why not teach them a lesson too. But again that was not right and I understand if you guys blame me for being too excited here. Otherwise I am still angry because hezbollah is taking Lebanon to ground zero. Maybe I am reading too much news and reading too much into it. But several analyst predicting israelis getting rid of hamas first as a powerbroker in gaza and weakening them so they don’t have to face that front. Now hezbollah is going to be a much harder fight for them as we all know. Although HA is currently fighting the STL and other lebanese and trying to impose its will on lebanese. Also its trying to involve forcibly or voluntarily some members of the gov’t on its side. Having said that, Israel execuse now we will hit lebanon infastructure from all angles and not just HA positions. So knowing israel will not have mercy on us because its trying to punish us because of HA. That means lebanon will be going to ground Zero. Also a war on hezbollah means syria and Iran will be involved too and that means prolonging even th war and devastations further. can we as lebanese tolerate any further incidents or any wars created by hezbollah. that doesn’t mean israel will not do its incitments. But my beliefs that israel will refrain as much as it can knowingly that HA has acquired the weapons it needed so why start a war if you’re not sure what to expect..So again having incident like this at the airport and having Ziad Barroud keep a tight lid on the incident while he was suppose to arrest Syyed instead he helped protect him and the armed groups that roamed Beirut and the airport. I am sure Minister Barroud had no choice but also keeping a zipped lip about it, it provides more immunitions to israel even though its none of its business. By simply saying, look at these ministers christians and muslims are siding with HA. so they say to the west can you really depend on this lebanese gov’t? also HA by doing this they totally disprespected the gov’t, the judiciary and most of all betrayed the trust of the Lebanese people. Of course they’re die hard supporters will not be swayed otherwise. So here i am saying look Isarel is our enemy and its wants nothing but to demolish us. Yet we are letting HA doing what it wants to protect itself from the STL by instigating too many incidents and also implementing Iran goals by striking a war with israel so it doesn’t fight Iran first? that’s my two cents on this issue..

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    First I applogize I was just plain angry with with all the things hezbollah is getting with and its frustrating not even the gov’t is doing anything to stop them. That’s why i said what I said and they kill innocent from our side so why not teach them a lesson too. But again that was not right and I understand if you guys blame me for being too excited here. Otherwise I am still angry because hezbollah is taking Lebanon to ground zero. Maybe I am reading too much news and reading too much into it. But several analyst predicting israelis getting rid of hamas first as a powerbroker in gaza and weakening them so they don’t have to face that front. Now hezbollah is going to be a much harder fight for them as we all know. Although HA is currently fighting the STL and other lebanese and trying to impose its will on lebanese. Also its trying to involve forcibly or voluntarily some members of the gov’t on its side. Having said that, Israel execuse now we will hit lebanon infastructure from all angles and not just HA positions. So knowing israel will not have mercy on us because its trying to punish us because of HA. That means lebanon will be going to ground Zero. Also a war on hezbollah means syria and Iran will be involved too and that means prolonging even th war and devastations further. can we as lebanese tolerate any further incidents or any wars created by hezbollah. that doesn’t mean israel will not do its incitments. But my beliefs that israel will refrain as much as it can knowingly that HA has acquired the weapons it needed so why start a war if you’re not sure what to expect..So again having incident like this at the airport and having Ziad Barroud keep a tight lid on the incident while he was suppose to arrest Syyed instead he helped protect him and the armed groups that roamed Beirut and the airport. I am sure Minister Barroud had no choice but also keeping a zipped lip about it, it provides more immunitions to israel even though its none of its business. By simply saying, look at these ministers christians and muslims are siding with HA. so they say to the west can you really depend on this lebanese gov’t? also HA by doing this they totally disprespected the gov’t, the judiciary and most of all betrayed the trust of the Lebanese people. Of course they’re die hard supporters will not be swayed otherwise. So here i am saying look Isarel is our enemy and its wants nothing but to demolish us. Yet we are letting HA doing what it wants to protect itself from the STL by instigating too many incidents and also implementing Iran goals by striking a war with israel so it doesn’t fight Iran first? that’s my two cents on this issue..

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