Iran lobbied for Russian campaign in Syria, report

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Soleimani   PutinIran played an integral role leading up to Russia’s move to launch its air campaign in Syria and play a stronger role in Iraq, with one of Tehran’s most powerful generals meeting for three hours with President Vladimir Putin to push for intervention, Iraqi government officials tell The Associated Press.

Gen. Qassem Soleimani, head of Iran’s elite Quds Force, went to Moscow in August with the message that Russian airstrikes against the Islamic State group in Syria were imperative, said the two senior officials, who were later briefed on the meeting. Soleimani and Putin reviewed maps and surveillance photos and shared intelligence, all suggesting the militant group would expand its reach to Russia’s doorstep in the Caucuses if Moscow didn’t act, the two officials said.

The meeting also covered plans to create a joint intelligence-sharing center between Iraq, Syria, Iran and Russia in Baghdad, which began operating later the same month. Soleimani also met with senior Russian military officials during his visit, the officials said. The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about the secret meeting,

The Iranian role points to the powerful influence of the country, which is the strongest backer of Syrian President Bashar Assad and is close to the Shiite-led leadership in Iraq’s U.S.-backed government. Russia’s dive into the Mideast’s conflicts marks a shifting of alliances, particularly with Iraq, where officials have grumbled that the U.S.-led coalition’s air campaign against IS has not been as effective as they hoped and the prime minister has said he’d welcome Russian airstrikes.

Asked on Wednesday about the reported Putin-Soleimani meeting, Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov shrugged it off by saying that there are too many statements from unidentified officials. At the time, Russia’s deputy foreign ministry spokesman said he has “no information whatsoever” that Soleimani visited Russia, which would be a violation of U.N. travel sanctions against the general. The Iranian government on Wednesday did not respond to requests for comment on the reported meeting.

Russian military jets launched the airstrike campaign in Syria on Sept. 30, targeting what Moscow said were positions of the Islamic State group and al-Qaida’s branch. But it has also heavily hit rebels on the front-line against Syria’s military, raising accusations that it is intervening to boost Assad in the civil war, now in its fifth year, after a series of losses by his military. Russia denies this, saying its campaign is solely intended to stop the spread of militants.

The U.S. meanwhile has had to navigate around regional alliances and enmities in trying to roll back IS’s spread across large parts of Iraq and Syria. In Syria, Washington refuses to work with Assad’s government in the air campaign, saying Assad needs to leave power, and it has been wary of appearing to help Syrian troops with strikes against IS.

In Iraq, the U.S. has been wary of helping to deepen Iran’s influence and has avoided coordinating with the Shiite militias, trying instead to boost the Iraqi military, while pressing the Shiite-led government to ease sectarian tensions with the Sunni minority. Washington and Tehran refuse to work with each other directly, even as Iran takes a powerful role in fighting IS.

Soleimani, Tehran’s point man in both the Syrian and Iraq conflicts, has been key in organizing Shiite militias in Iraq and Syria, which have had a leading role in fighting IS. Meanwhile, the U.S.-trained Iraqi military crumbled in the face of the IS advances last year and has struggled to gain ground ever since. When IS took the western city of Ramadi in May, a top U.S. general complained that Iraqi forces didn’t have the will to fight. U.S. airstrikes have been key in pushing back IS on several fronts in Iraq and Syria, often in coordination with the Iraqi military or Kurdish fighters on the ground.

Last month, Iran granted permission for Russian planes to fly over its territory en route to Syria, Russian news agencies said on Sept. 9. After Bulgaria rejected Moscow’s overflight request for Sept. 1-24, a path via Iran and Iraq appeared to be the only one left, as Russia apparently sought to avoid flying over Turkey, which in 2012 grounded a Syria-bound plane carrying radar parts from Moscow.

Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Russia’s airstrikes in Syria in support of the Assad regime were “pouring gasoline on the fire” and called for Moscow to pursue a political solution.

In an interview with France 24 last week, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said he would “welcome” military strikes by Russia in his country if Moscow made such a proposal but that hasn’t happened yet.

“Our aim is to bring everybody to fight Daesh, not to fight among themselves,” he said, using the Arabic acronym for the Islamic State group.

He also sharply criticized President Barack Obama, accusing him of a lack of “will” in the fight against IS. He called the U.S. support in the fight “limited” and said he had expected “massive air power.”

France24 interview in New York last week where al-Abadi was speaking at the United Nations General Assembly.

Karim al-Nouri, the spokesman for the Popular Mobilization Forces, the paramilitary force in Iraq made up predominantly of Shiite militias, said the Russians are “more serious in eliminating Daesh” than the Americans.
ASSOCIATED PRESS

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160 responses to “Iran lobbied for Russian campaign in Syria, report”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    “there are too many statements from unidentified officials” …. nothing ‘new’ about that in the area. It’s all we hear, most of the time … no-one is ‘authorized’. The really interesting bit is that that Russia is ‘afraid’ of entry at the Caucasus, but isn’t hitting anywhere near them.

    1. That’s because they haven’t reached there yet. If they expand they will. Not to mention there are thousands of chechens fighting with isis in syria and iraq. They wouldn’t want them returning now would they?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Not the ones which cut off Russian heads … I guess.

      2. “Not to mention there are thousands of chechens fighting with isis in syria and iraq”

        Well now you do mention it, provide verifiable proof or continue looking like a shite whore from qom

        1. Hello zero. Do I have to do everything for you. Go to Google and type in chechens fighting in syria and you will find plenty. Go to youtube and type in Bishop beheaded and you will find plenty. A lot of articles and there’s even pictures for you.

          1. Wtf has bishop beheaded got to do with the number of Chechens!!??
            And secondly, you made the claim so YOU need to prove that said claim.
            As if I’m meant to do your research. If it’s so easy then why not just provide it, it would have been quicker then all that barking you just did

  2. Hind Abyad Avatar
    Hind Abyad

    YaLibnan Silence is rotten. Hell going on next door; Palestinian Red Crescent Society declares state of emergency in the West Bank..
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/palestinian-declares-emergency?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=827a1e919f-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Always said that NEITHER ‘side’ respects the UN … or Geneva Conventions …

      1. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        One side has the power!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          But NO ‘will’.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Yes others than extremist right wing have the will not the power.
            Likud is the party of Jabotinsky it was founded in 1950, by the terrorist that introduced terrorism in the holy land, Menahem Begin.

          2. Likud = lick good

          1. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Wow, he really showed that 10-12 year old boy with a splint on his arm, lol (57 sec mark). Fucking coward soldier. They love showing how tough they are with the children. Then people like cook2long wonders why the Palestinians do what they do. I’m with you when you said if you lived there you would either be dead or in jail. No way I would stand for that shit.

          2. I was touched by his sister’s actions as well as the other females. That little girl is my kinda kid. Respect to all those females that fought the fully armed moron and won.
            I saw another video which was under related of this video and they were assaulting and arresting an 8 year old.
            I will never understand how a human can do that and then go home and HUG his own kids.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            I would assume after a while, they are no longer ‘minors’. The stats go down …

          4. Are there no more minors being created?
            Which means the “stats” will only change with change by those treating children in this cruel and inhumane manner.

          5. Then they pretend they don’t know why those children grow up to despise them.

          6. “Then people like cook2long wonders why the Palestinians do what they do”

            Cook isn’t stupid, so he knows exactly why the oppressed would fight their oppressor.

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            That bad boy ‘allowed’ a couple of his goats to go eat the ‘prime’ grass …. can’t have that kind of thing going on. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          8. Lol that truly made me LOL

          9. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            “Then people like cook2long wonders why the Palestinians do what they do”

            I 100% agree that Palestinians should defend themselves when the IDF attacks them, like in the above video. I will never, ever condemn a Palestinian who attacks a soldier when his life is in danger.

            But the fact of the matter is that the vast VAST majority of Palestinians attacks are against Israeli civilians!!! All the stabbings in Tel Aviv, Afula, Jerusalem that took place in the past few days were against civilians!

            If a Syrian army soldier in the Golan Heights attacks me am I entitled to go to Damascus and go on a stabbing spree against civilians?? seriously?!

          10. Civilians or settlers/occupiers?

            “All the stabbings in Tel Aviv, Afula, Jerusalem that took place in the past few days were against civilians!”

            Really? ALL????
            You are one of those people that just LOVES to exaggerate and lie just to cause a stir? Or other reasons?

            “Israeli police say a soldier has been stabbed in an attack in northern Israel”

            http://news.yahoo.com/latest-another-israeli-stabbed-jerusalem-093829281.html

          11. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            And what did that soldier in Afula do? he was not even in occupied territory.

            And don’t use one example to “prove” I’m wrong. Because you know as well as I know that the VAST majority of attacks in the past few days (as well as in all the intifadas) were directed against the Israeli population. Don’t deflect from the main point.

          12. The vast majority (and I want to see facts regarding that claim) is NOT “ALL”!!
            How do you know what he didn’t do? Not that THAT has anything to do with the subject about “ALL”!

          13. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            cook2half man-o-war
            “But the fact of the matter is that the vast VAST majority of Palestinians attacks are against Israeli civilians!!!”

            lol and guilty until proven innocent? cause at a time when Palestinians are going on a stabbing spree all around the country (and yes vast majority of those targeted ARE civilians), its so hard to believe that the attack in Afula was random?

            I’d love to see how people would react if the Syrian people rather than fighting regime soldiers in 2011 went on a stabbing spree in Latakia and Tartus (or sent suicide bombers). I swear to God the only reason palis do these things is because people like you justify their actions!!

            Let me make my position clear. If an IDF pig attacks Palestinians, then he deserves to be attacked. But this is not what the palis are doing.

          14. Cook stop being silly!!
            I’m not fighting you but I am correcting a small grammatical error. And the reason I’m picking on that error is coz it’s false.

            “” All the stabbings in Tel Aviv, Afula, Jerusalem that took place in the past few days were against civilians!””

          15. Try again!

            “” All the stabbings in Tel Aviv, Afula, Jerusalem that took place in the past few days were against civilians!””

          16. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Fair enough.

            I will support you guys when it comes to criticising settler pigs and IDF assaults on civilians but I will NOT stand here and justify terrorist attacks (or in Man-O’s words, “what Palestinians do”) as fighting oppression.

          17. “I swear to God the only reason palis do these things is because people like you justify their actions”

            LOLLLLLLL
            So the Palestinians are risking death AND getting killed coz people like e justify their actions????????
            REAY????????????
            Wow so the Palestinians are ignoring the occupation and apartheid and reading MY comments on an obscure site. Cool story dude. You should send that one to Nyt.

          18. *people like me

          19. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            “Wow so the Palestinians are ignoring the occupation and apartheid and reading MY comments on an obscure site”

            Don’t bend my comment to suit your agenda. Its obvious as fuck that I said “people like you” and not “your comments”. The media (including even twitter) does shape public opinion.

            “Palestinians are risking death” LOL cause terrorists are known to be so afraid of death!

          20. The media and Twitter are nothing like “people like” ME!!

            Absolutely no comparison whatsoever. In fact, I honestly don’t understand how you could equate me with those two. I’m at a loss to understand why?

          21. Cook, what hid did or didn’t do is not the subject. Come on Cook, you are a smart boy

          22. hid = He

          23. Doesn’t the Israeli population, that is Jewish, “ALL” ๐Ÿ˜› have to serve in the military??

          24. “If a Syrian army soldier in the Golan Heights”

            What a ridiculous example!
            A) a Syrian soldier (no need for the word “army”) is not occupying you and protecting settlers etc etc. that’s example is ludicrous.

          25. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Sorry but I think its actually a good example.

            The half cocks with the help of Iran and hezb are occupying Syria and oppressing its people. Hey I have an idea, why don’t we encourage the Syrians to stab 4 people with a screwdriver in Latakia, stab 3 others in Tartous and heck start an intifada against restaurants and clubs!!

          26. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Here’s a better idea COCK, why don’t you go Fuck yourself.

          27. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Anti education comes to defend his dictator xxx

          28. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Read what you said COCK. How the hell am I defending Assad.

          29. But Assad and his crew are Syrian! They are not settlers!

          30. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Keep justifying terrorism. And by the way Tel Aviv is not a settlement, but don’t worry I know deep down you consider ALL of Israel a settlement that needs to be eradicated.

            You know I actually respect Hamas a lot more than the PLO because at least they are honest about their intentions. If you are against Israel’s existence then please say it loud and clear so I don’t waste my time thinking you’re trying your best to be neutral.

          31. “Keep justifying terrorism”

            Cook, have you lost your mind?

          32. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Listen Ive got nothing against you personally. I’m just generally angry at Palestinian supporters who pretend like they accept Israel and that this would all be over if Israel withdrew to 1949 lines (as if!!).

            I will honestly respect you even more if you tell me how you really feel about Israel’s presence in that religion.

          33. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Region*

          34. I’ve heard of “67 borders” and I believe that should be Palestine. With all the settlers relocated if they choose not to live under Palestinian rule. Israel has a right to exist but it does not have a right to discriminate. Look Cook, the reality is that Israel EXISTS! That will not be be changed.

          35. Addendum: in today’s world countries don’t cease to exist but there are countries born out of countries, example Sudan and South Sudan, or south and North Korea.

          36. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I can honestly tell you that Ive given up on solutions. The Palestinian leadership wants a state but sure as hell not in exchange for peace with a Jewish state or an end to the conflict, and the Israeli leadership wants to control the entire land from the river to the sea and has been building settlements since 1967 in order to create facts on the ground.

          37. Even one state that is equal.

          38. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            That would be ideal. But Jewish Israelis I can tell you are racists and is why they never talk of a one state solution.

            Id love it if Israel was multicultural like Canada or England where anyone could immigrate there and be treated equally. But sadly Israeli culture is NOT western culture, they are racists and want to keep to themselves.

          39. “But sadly Israeli culture is NOT western culture, they are racists and want to keep to themselves.”

            Plenty of racists in the west.

          40. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Even I feel uncomfortable when I travel there. At the airport they treat me like a criminal simply because I’m a non-Jewish resident.

          41. “Like” a criminal? Or a criminal? :p
            Xx

          42. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Xoxo

            Like a second class British citizen who should be seen and not heard.

          43. I’ve travelled a fair bit but the UK has never appealed to me and I’ve never been. All I’ve ever heard is its “cold and miserable”.
            With WARM beer! Wtf???

          44. Does a stopover at Heathrow count?

          45. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Yes but next time you come we’re eating out xx

          46. What? No “dinner parties”? ๐Ÿ˜› xx

          47. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            We’ll have this for dinner:

          48. Did you post a pic? All I’m seeing is “we’ll have this for dinner”.

            (I should “refresh” this page)

          49. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Yeah also refresh to see pic (annoying I know)

          50. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Ewwww lol

          51. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            lol see they say that but when I went to New York State and Pennsylvania in April it was snowing like mad there (it hasn’t snowed in London for 4 years).

          52. Yeh but New York gets very hot and serves cold beer. And the sun shines even if all those buildings create shadows.

          53. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            lol it does get humid in the U.S.

            I don’t drink alcohol or even soft drinks. But yes Id be pissed (not literally) if they only served warm water here ๐Ÿ˜›

          54. Wow not even soft drink! I’m impressed. Honestly well done. Since when did you not drink soft drinks? (anyone know why they are called “soft”?)

          55. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Since last year. I also don’t eat sugar or caffeine or processed meats :-)))

          56. No sugar???
            So EVERYTHING you eat is definitely sugar free????
            I said EVERYTHING, and you know I’m not like you when you say “all” :p xx

          57. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            hehe. Yup this includes white bread, ketchup, sweeteners, etc. Even before eating brown bread I take fibre tablets 15 minutes before eating to have a stable blood sugar. I’m not diabetic though.

          58. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Have an apricot. Or two dried.

          59. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Been there o, it’s a hole.

          60. LOLLLL
            sorry Cook but tbh I’ve always thought it would be a hole but not like this hole O. :p

            Anti, when did you go and where and how long?

          61. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Did a European tour with some friend’s in 97. Stopped over in London for 2 days. A very miserable and depressing country. Best place I went to was Cyprus. Absolutely loved it. Not to mention the girls were very friendly. :-)))

          62. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I’ll venture this, Anti. EVERY big city is a ‘hole’ and barely represents a ‘country’, since mostly it’s composed of various kinds of paving and vertical storage buildings – of a mixed unfeeling humanity. When you want to ‘see’ a country, you need to rent a car and or a bicycle and actually GO into it.
            Of course, doing this in some countries could result in being kidnapped. (no names mentioned ;-))) BUT the local cuisine might be an improvement over what the city holds. And the ‘views’ are generally MUCH better.

          63. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            GOOD Dark beer is best only slightly chilled. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          64. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            All you need to do is assault a child and they with consider you a Jew.

          65. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Thanks anti education ^ ^

          66. “but don’t worry I know deep down you consider ALL of Israel a settlement that needs to be eradicated.”

            Cook you are being childish! Stop it!!

          67. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I take that back after you told me your solution to the conflict.

          68. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Oh and BTW, to hell with Assad, All I care about is the innocent lives being lost for nothing. Do you feel the same when comes to the Pals.

          69. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Liar. There’s a reason why you have a fucking Hezbollah flag in your avatar!

            Taqqiya much.

          70. Hey who would you vote for in Israeli elections?
            Yes, I KNOW personal question and I’m being a hypocrite :(((

            But it’s that time of the month and I can get away with ANYTHING!!

          71. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Donald Trump ๐Ÿ˜‰

            lol I’m not sure perhaps Natanyahu just because the other politicians are clowns.

          72. Sorry just saw that.
            WTF!!!!
            are you seriously asking me THAT question!!!???
            I’m not being rude but come on, how else would I feel’?
            Listen, you know even those fruit flies? I can’t kill! So how else would I feel about innocent life ANYWHERE!!??

          73. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            O that was meant for Cookie. Sorry. Beleive me, I know how you feel about innocent people. :-)))

          74. That’s odd coz it says you addressed me. (Scratches head….and something else :p)

            That’s really strange

          75. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Got a head of myself. I’m so used to having a go at you. Lol.

          76. ๐Ÿ™‚

          77. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Easy with the product ‘Fantastic’. You put a banana peel in sink. Give it time. All Fruit Flies gather to eat and boink. Spritz into sink twice with Fantastic. Wash the banana peel. Pretend Fantastic is all that goes down the drain. Wait again. Repeat.
            What you don’t see can’t hurt you – old philosophy. ;-))

          78. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            (look at my kebab pic below)

          79. “why don’t we encourage the Syrians to stab 4 people with a screwdriver in Latakia, stab 3 others in Tartous and heck start an intifada against restaurants and clubs!!”

            They don’t need encouragement. There are plenty that would do it, at this point in the conflict, without encouragement.

          80. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Totally agree with you.

          81. If a simple road rage incident makes one want to assault another human then what would WAR make us do?

          82. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            Thank God we don’t live in a war torn country.

          83. The way things are going, who knows if anyone will live full stop.

          84. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Even after 250,000 killed they STILL don’t do it!

            As I said before, even after 6 MILLION Jews were killed in Germany they STILL don’t send suicide bombers into restaurants in Berlin!

            I can’t believe how you don’t realise that people have this mentality that the palis can do no wrong – that terrorist attacks against civilians in mainland are “fighting oppression”. Its disgusting!!

          85. “8 minutes ago
            Even after 250,000 killed they STILL don’t do it!”

            Cook, you put the population of Latakia in rebel areas and I can promise that incidents like that would definitely occur

          86. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I’m talking about the civilian population thats being targeted by barrel bombs. Its the civilian on civilians attacks that disgust me.

          87. Yes and I’m talking about the civilian population, and that would be the same in ANY war where ENEMIES were put amongst each other, they would have no problem with doing This “”why don’t we encourage the Syrians to stab 4 people with a screwdriver in Latakia, stab 3 others in Tartous and heck start an intifada against restaurants and clubs!!””

          88. So the Palestinians didn’t like restaurants and clubs but they had no problem with occupation and apartheid??

          89. “I can’t believe how you don’t realise that people have this mentality that the palis can do no wrong – that terrorist attacks against civilians in mainland are “fighting oppression”. Its disgusting!!”

            Cook of course there are going to be those that are blind but that is not the subject. And yes, of course, I understand that there are over 7 billion different views and opinions. I would be ignorant to think otherwise.

          90. Look Cook, I was stupid and immature by referring to them as that. That was very childish and dumb of me. And all it did was create more hate. Yeh stfu’ maybe I am becoming more mature

          91. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Can I just say I find your jokes (shites, half cocks etc) friggen hilarious XDDDD

          92. Anything is funny amongst friends that understand your humor. But this is the WWW

          93. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            By the way I called Hind two nights ago and told her I’m being really childish and don’t mean to insult anyone. Glad I also made a truce with her and stopped the hateful comments.

          94. What language do you two speak to each other in?
            And good boy for making peace.

            Btw I’m in Amsterdam next month. Are you in the UK around the 2 – 5 of nov?

          95. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            English (her spoken English is surprisingly good. I think she maybe just struggles with typing).

            Yup I should be in London then.

          96. Let’s arrange something. Either you come to Amsterdam or I go to that strange “empire that the sun never sets on” but somehow the sun did set on it. :p

          97. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            We’ll see.

          98. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Chicken !! (she’s got muscles… ;-))

          99. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Canadians explain …
            https://youtu.be/b2JO-i2aPs8

          100. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            One for Hind … in 3D if you have the glasses …. ๐Ÿ˜‰
            https://youtu.be/UbEAkocuZbc

          101. Lol definitely got me toe tapping while them.

          102. *watching

          103. And you guessed right, he is 12. Honestly I cried. Must be that time of month ๐Ÿ™

          104. Actually I’ve never seen even Isis treat children this way. Anyone have anything that shows that I’m wrong?

          105. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            (?)
            “Al Jazeera Arab readers chocked by restraint and kindness of IDF soldiers in Nabih Saleh”

            http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/aljazeera-arab-readers-shocked-by-restraint-kindness-of-idf-soldiers-in-nabi-salah/2015/08/30/

          106. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            I would have to say IDF treatment of children can’t be compared to ISIS. They intimidate, harass, tear gas, rubber bullets, imprison, and occasionally kill some, but it can’t be compared to ISIS actions. Just my opinion. ISIS is not really known for their kind treatment of any age group. There are videos where they lined up the elderly men and teenage boys of villages and executed them. I can share some if you really want to see, but its graphic.

          107. If it’s graphic I prefer to take your word than see it. Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

          108. Anti ISIS Avatar
            Anti ISIS

            What a scum bag.

          109. Unfortunately there are many like him all over the world. :(((
            And I’m not talking about his race or religion but about his hate and cruelty.
            The brain is a strange thing. And I’m not saying I’m perfect but I could NEVER EVER do that to a kid. Adult I can’t promise but a kid? NEVER EVER!!
            It takes a really evil sick twisted mind to to that to a kid, but not only a regular kid! Oh no! A kid with a BROKEN ARM!!
            And at the end, for no reason at all but spite, he throws tear gas at them, even though there was absolutely no reason whatsoever.

          110. Addendum: not all idf soldiers are like this pig, as evidenced by his colleague who just extracted him and left the kid alone.

          111. Keep in mind that his is the power structure. that family is making a fortune for being professional protestors. they buy food and clothes with Israeli currency provided by European NGOs. But that Israeli soldier’s family and his army unit will be in Israel for generations and these Pals will be crying (instead of trying to improve their lots) for generations.
            PS- if this was Libya or Syria, that whole fam would be dead. period.

      2. Stop equating the oppressed with the oppressor.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Why not? At least in things they are ‘equal’ in. Small simple equalities.

          1. Ok technically that it is true but you are talking specifics and not generalities.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well, yah … I did think they were both humans too. Better revise …

          3. Omg did I misunderstand again!? :p

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            :-))) Oh … wait … THAT means they are equal AGAIN. !!
            hmmmm …. different Aliens … THAT works. OK. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    2. much much worst in yarmuk ..what is your position about the REAL pali genocide?

      1. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Talk about 1916 Zionist Fascism not Yarmouk.

        Dov Ber Borochov: “Zionism requires a willingness to accept sacrifices and the danger of personal extinction. — On the Question of Zionism and Territory”. 1905.

        Zionists are infamous for denying the existence of God, except to have firm belief that “God gave this land to us.” You’re nothing but common thugs, thieves, with the weakest of all possible excuses.

        1. Yes yes we heard all the memorized crap many times before. What we never heard was anhonest answer: how can you still mask your racism as pali sympathy when you 100% justify the murder of over 17k palis?
          It is an interesting question that deserves an answer, don’t you think?

          1. “when you 100% justify the murder of over 17k palis?”

            When did hind “justify the murder of over 17K”?

          2. Its about the amount of pali casualties at yarmuk camp.subjected to b bombs, shelling and starvation by the assad regim. So far, this self proclaimed d defender. Of palistinians failed to say a word against assad’s crimes there which can only mean she supports it which means she is a hypocrit. She hates jews cause of other reasons, NOT out of compassion to palistinians.
            I enjoy reminding her she is not the saint she wishes everybody belive she is ๐Ÿ™‚

          3. Doron, I’ve been here and know about yarmouk and have asked hind about yarmouk.
            But that still doesn’t answer my question.
            When did hind justify it?
            Hind has done other things related to yarmouk that I prefer not to go into at this point. But hind has never justified it. I’m sorry but you are wrong. I have respect for you but on this one you are incorrect. Xx

          4. No problems, i never said you have to agree with me on everything.
            I still think that systematic refusal to condemn someone means supporting him.
            You know what? Replace “justify” with “support” she never cheered publicly for the genocide, only refused to stand against it.

          5. Refusing to stand against something is different to justifying it.
            and now you understand the difference. ๐Ÿ™‚

          6. Not going to argue about that, have a good one

          7. doron is correctly stating that guys like Hind do not care about Yarmuk or Leb Army bombardment of Tripoli refugee camps that killed hundreds because no Jews were involved. if Jews were involved, it would be a massacre. if not, it is not newsworthy and he could care less about those Palestinians.

          8. No, that is not what doron said. My issue is with the accusation that hind “justified” it and hind has never ever justified the killing of any Palestinian, anywhere in the world.

          9. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You appear..just to defend your fellow Zionists..
            Go to Jewish Forward where Zionists and non-Zionists Jews discuss..here i you don’t give orders

          10. one minute you ask hind “what is your position about the REAL pali genocide”

            And the next you claim hind is “justifying” the “genocide”, even though hind hadn’t replied to your first question.
            That’s strange

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            What was Russian Khazar Zeev Jabotinsky (the creator of Zionism), doing in 1916 as the editor of Ataturk paper ‘Young Turks’, which promoted the Armenian Genocide?

            The Likud is Jabotinsky’s party Turkey are Khazars, natural allies of ISIS Chechens in the slaughter of Christians..does that ring a bell? Go back long before ‘Yarmuk’.

            PS.. stop calling Palestinians palis, bigot

          12. How about an answer?

          13. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You answer

          14. Lol…your answer ,not mine and you can thank the lord this is not a court house, you’d be thrown to jail for contempt of court ๐Ÿ˜‰

          15. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ‘Sephardic Rabbi Says Jews Sparked Temple Mount Violence With Visits’ That’s the difference between Khazar Zionist and Sephardi Jews

            http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/322390/sephardic-rabbi-says-jews-sparked-temple-mount-violence-with-visits/?utm_content=daily_Newsletter_Breakin

          16. An answer dear ๐Ÿ™‚ I want you evading lowlife loelwlife to utter the words that sum up who you are: “i am hind and i never lifted a finger or wrote one word pro sunni pali UNLESS it can be used as a tool against israel”.

    3. “YaLibnan Silence is rotten”

      The last few days they haven’t been posting much. Maybe on holidays

    1. Nice try, but no one is buying this. We come here to learn about Leb and Syria. In the old days, Arab tyrants tried to obfuscate with comparisons to Israel’ treatment of Pals. Now, people know that more Arabs died in Syria yesterday than have died in WB in past two years. Same goes for Yemen, Libya, Iraq, Somalia, etc.
      Your Jew hatred is showing.

      1. Where does it say just “Leb and Syria” on yalibnan?

        Btw yalibnan, my phone keeps autocorrecting you to Taliban

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          ‘T’ comes before ‘Y’ in the ‘auto-dictionary’ too. Turn off spell-check. ๐Ÿ˜‰
          The dictionary never heard of ‘YaL’ … although in Texas, it’s ‘Y’all’. :-)))

      2. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Barry Hind Abyad โ€ข 3 hours ago
        Yeah, we are all on the Zionist payroll. South Korea too since I am anti-North. Al Ahram is a Zionist hotbed, like the rest of Egypt.
        Part 1 – No mention of Turkey’s (enormously larger) role as compared to Israel half dozen airstrikes over a 4 year period. As far as selling weapons, find me a country not involved in that trade and I will show you Costa Rica.
        Part 2 – What conspiracy theory website did you get that one from? RT? PressTV? Same placeas the first?
        Part 3 – There is no freedom of speech on a private website. It is up to the owners of the site and since I am only a 15% shareholder, I have very little say in that. Israel owns 17%.
        Replay . Share

  3. how did this become an Israel forum? it is about Syrian war!

  4. johngilbert Avatar
    johngilbert

    Also add that Iran is paying Russia for its involvement in Syria with upcoming money that will be released to Iran from the nuclear deal. Russia isn’t doing this all for free since Iran will be paying for it.

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      Hi Malmequer aka johngilbert.
      …just as your Aipac, Ayotte, Rubio and de Blasio are bought and paid for by the โ€˜magnificentโ€™ Israel lobbyUS Politics

      http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/ayotte-blasio-israel?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=b80364456c-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b86bace129-b

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