Former U.N. diplomat blames U.S. for ISIS

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brahimi syria a failed stateFormer United Nations diplomat Lakhdar Brahimi said on Monday the United States is to blame for the current situation in Iraq. Brahimi also called on Monday for Iran to become involved in negotiations surrounding Syria.

Speaking at the first ever International Government Communication Forum (IGCF) 2015, held in Sharjah, UAE, Brahimi singled out the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, for ‘providing an environment that allowed insurgency to grow in Iraq, helping a group like the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) to flourish.’

“The U.S. is to be blamed,” Brahimi said. “It created conditions that allowed ISIS to grow.”

The Algerian politician – whose diplomatic career spans four decades – also said Iran needed to be part of a political solution in Syria and Iraq, given the “regional power” it holds in both countries.

“Iran is part of the problem, and a member of the problem has to be part of the solution, even if other parties think otherwise,” Brahami stated.

Reflecting on his U.N. peace mission in Syria, Brahimi said he always liked to look back at “tasks that weren’t carried out properly.”

Brahimi announced that he was stepping down from his role as the United Nations and Arab League Special Envoy to Syria in May 2014 after failing to secure a peaceful solution to the ongoing civil war. He initially took over the mission in 2012 from former U.N. chief Kofi Annan.

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“I said more than once, people in the region are calling for a real change not a cosmetic one. Governments that don’t want to change will be victims of change.”

He said the Syrian government was to be blamed for allowing the crisis in its country spiraling out of control.

“The Syrian government did not react to demands of change,” which began peacefully in Raqqa, the diplomat recalled, when people were calling for “freedom and dignity”.

“Governments need to be held accountable for what is going on,” he said speaking of the Syria crisis.

When asked if the U.N. was still willing to secure a resolution to the Syrian crisis, Brahimi said: “the region has big divisions [over Syria] that are not helping the Syrian people.”

“The U.N. has a big moral power, but it cannot do anything unless it gets the support of its members.”

On Libya, he said an indecisive stance among some North African countries – including Tunisia and Algeria – over the recent Egyptian airstrikes on Libya was due to the ongoing debate over whether an external force should intervene in the war-torn country.

“The issue [in Libya] is on the use of external forces and whether it helps or not,” Brahimi explained.

He said the use of force in a “weak country” like Libya “will not achieve much”.

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“We learn from our failures,” former United Nations diplomat Lakhdar Brahimi said during a one-on-one conversation with Lebanese reporter Raghida Dergham, the New York bureau chief for the pan-Arab Al-Hayat Newspaper.

Brahimi said Egypt’s decision to launch military airstrikes against Libya following the release of video of Egyptian Christian workers being beheaded in Derna was “not easy and had to be thought about clearly.”

Meanwhile, Brahimi also underlined the importance of communication between governments and people.

“The capacity of all Arab governments without exception to reach out to their people and the external world is disappointing,” he added.

“We are almost incapable of communicating with our people.”

This year’s IGCF is hosting several prominent leaders and decision makers from around the world, including former Lebanese President Michel Suleiman and Former Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

The forum runs Feb. 22 to Feb. 23.

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124 responses to “Former U.N. diplomat blames U.S. for ISIS”

  1. MekensehParty Avatar
    MekensehParty

    Kelloun 3andoun siyarat wou brahimi akbar hmar…

    1. Anti ISIS Avatar

      Nice to see some truth come out every know and again, hey Mek. But of course typical you will deny deny deny.

      1. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        The Truth that came out is the support so many Arabs and Muslims have for fanatic principles and how much they truly listen to the likes of bin laden, al Zawahiri and recently their Caliph. That’s the bee hive that the Americans kicked in Iraq. That’s the truth that came out of the invasion, that Islamic fanaticism is growing in every house and ready to claim the Caliphate of decapitation, burning and terror as we can clearly see today. The lie that a majority of Arabs did not cheer for 9/11 is finally exposed.
        Bush was incapable of showing this truth. He was the invader after all, he can’t be objective. And to earn Arab friendships (can’t call the Saudis and Qataris terrorists supporters) he hid the truth and at the end failed in his message to bring democracy.
        Came Obama and said the invasion is over. The excuse of insurgency/resistance against an occupier is removed. No more troops in Iraq. Now Iraq is yours, the TRUE people of the country. And the Truth unfolded…

        1. Reasonableman Avatar
          Reasonableman

          DAAMN I accidentally understood a few things you said so I had to reply!

          you are never afraid to pick up where you left, except I see you are tired of euphemism and innuendo.
          Do you have anything else to say, other then the ‘ol western dialogue line “love it or leave it”. And ” americans and the west are superior to you sub human muslims?

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            You put words in my mouth and you go on ranting about them instead of answering the main question: how many Arabs and Muslims truly support Qaeda/ISIS? How many Muslims cheered when they saw the two planes hitting the twin towers?
            Man up for once and give me a straight answer.

          2. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            LMAO
            I don’t know why you believe you are the thought police and can secretly dissect the minds and hearts of 1.5 billion muslims.

            Ill answer your question if you say sorry for being a bigot.

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Keep finding all kind of excuses not to answer the question

          4. But the evidence is screaming in your face. You waste of byte

          5. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            How much did YOU cheer on 9/11?

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Hind Abyad – Geogrge • 24 days ago
            What other project than the Oded Niyon Plan? http://www.globalresearch.ca/g

            Geogrge – Hind Abyad • 24 days ago
            hmm, not really precise but yes. parts two is the control of everything north of the Euphrat: Kurdistan and Asarbaijan to North Kazaastan. The pipelines are the key. Oil: BTC and its extensions, (Iran) Kirkuk – Haifa, and the Gaslines TANAP and IPI. armenia will be depopulated like the levant. YOU should try to be part of that project.
            The biggest of mankind…

            Reply•Share › Take off you old glasses Meke.

          7. Geez you love wasting bytes

          8. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            What’s funny is how the disc freezes repeating the same thing when you’re cornered. Reminds me of Hind’s disc: zionistssalafim16mossad…

          9. “What’s funny is how the disc freezes repeating the same thing when you’re cornered”

            “Bites bites bites (sic)”
            Muslims Muslims Muslims
            Arabs Arabs Arabs.

            AMERICA INNOCENT
            AMERICA INNOCENT
            Conspiracy theorist.

          10. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I told you this before
            You and Hind were in the same IRNA/Al Jazeera laboratory until the “professors” split, one went resistance the other went jihad and now you’re barking at each other
            Go “Byte” each other elsewhere

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Take of your pink glasses I’m not barabie, ya lateeeeef!!!

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar

            I don’t back this mekrobe, i thought you had some intelligence, enough for me.

            O – Hind Abyad • 21 hours ago

            Lick lick
            Slurp slurp
            Keep rimming 5th’s asshole

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          13. Hind Abyad Avatar

            What about shiitnastyassheadhezbiraniandaftmarecow…

        2. “The lie that a majority of Arabs did not cheer for 9/11 is finally exposed”

          That is truly ludicrous as that gainz person claiming all salafis and evangelicals need to be exterminated.
          It appears you have a hatred of Muslims and Arabs. Islamaphobe much?
          Stop your fear mongering. I expect better from you.
          And as for bush, he is a war criminal that needs to be brought to justice.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            That’s ok … he’s a painter now. 😉
            ‘Who woulda thunk it?’

          2. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            i have no hatred but for those who support terror. It happens right now that most such people are Muslims and Arabs who funded Al Qaeda and are now funding ISIS.
            I will change my mind when I’ll see the majority of the poeple of Mosul or Raqqa taking up arms and freeing their cities. Until then and as long as they don’t, these people are happy under the caliphate.
            I stand by what I said until I see the opposite happen. I’ll be more than happy to apologize if I’m PROVEN wrong.

          3. Sorry for the islamphobe and comparison with gains. There was no need for that.
            As for bush:
            “Wars without international legality (e.g. not out of self-defense nor sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council) can be considered wars of aggression; ”

            “The International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, which followed World War II, called the waging of aggressive war “essentially an evil thing…to initiate a war of aggression…is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.””

            He is a war criminal and should be sentenced to death. Like other war criminals that commit wars of aggression.

          4. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Good luck getting bush to that
            Keep dreaming

          5. It’s not up to the criminal. I can’t believe you are defending a war criminal

          6. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I can’t believe you want to drag bush to a war crime court and yet you “avoid” mentioning all the Arab and Muslim leaders who deserve getting there a million year before him.
            Tells a lot about who’s the hypocrite…

          7. More deflection and waste of bytes.

          8. How do you know they are happy under the caliphate? If the us puppet Iraqi army didn’t conveniently run off and leave Isis weapons to use against the same people you want to take arms( arms they have no access to) then maybe these very same people could’ve stood up to Isis AND the Americans darling, Maliki.
            There area many in Iraq who oppose BOTH Isis and the American backed Maliki and now haider. But the Americans keep supplying a sectarian government in Iraq with weapons and backing so they can terrorise the Sunni population.
            And please PROVE the “majority” of Arabs supported 9/11 or “chear lead
            Seeing you are all about proof.

          9. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Again if the majority is not pro Isis it would not have resulted in such a large Islamic state. That’s the proof!!!

          10. That’s a theory. A conspiracy theory.

          11. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Use the words where they belong. Conspiracy means that someone is masking the truth behind other events. Again, there is no mask here. Is Baghdadi the Caliph of the Muslims today? He’s the only one who claimed the title and rules over a vast territory. Did any of the Muslims lift more than one finger to unseat him? Hardly. Did you stop to ask why the king of Jordan waited for the burning of the pilot to drink some tiger milk and go timidly after them? Because within Jordan there is a majority who oppose any action against ISIS. Not conspiracy but facts with numbers. If there were free elections in the Arab world the Muslim Brotherhood will win in most countries and we know very well how “open minded” the MB are.
            Look inward and stop blaming the rest of the world for your monstrosities. Muslim fanaticism is to blame. No conspiracy, no secrets, no bullshit.
            During the Renaissance, Christians went after their “own”. They didn’t blame the Muslims or Buddhists for the barbarity of the church and its blind fanaticism. They cleaned religion out of the affairs of the people which led to secular states. Time for you to get your asses to work, that is if indeed you truely wish to…

          12. Again waste of bytes you conspiracy theorist

          13. Hind Abyad Avatar

            They blamed the witches.

          14. Theory. Conspiracy theory. You still haven’t provided any facts that can back up your claim, only accusations.

          15. “Muslims and Arabs who funded Al Qaeda and are now funding ISIS. ”

            But the US loved these guys when they were “our guys” fighting the soviets. There’s that old saying that comes to mind, “you reap what you sow”.

            Btw how is it working out for the US as iran’s proxy Air Force in Iraq?
            Or how is it working out for the US as Iran being the proxy ground force for the US in Iraq?

          16. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            More waste of bites…

          17. But “the proof is screaming in your face”

          18. “I will change my mind when I’ll see the majority of the poeple of Mosul or Raqqa taking up arms and freeing their cities”

            Does that mean the people of the world should accuse the majority of Americans for any crime America has committed coz the American population didn’t take up arms and attack those in power in the US? Come on mek you know you are reaching here, stop it!

          19. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Waste of bites. Deflection. Changing of the subject. On the ground no change: Isis is growing. Thanks to who if not the Arab population?

          20. Btw sweetie it’s BYTES. Same school as anti education?

          21. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            good, you learned something on english101.com

          22. “good, you learned something on english101.com”

            Obviously you didn’t mr “bites”.

          23. Btw mek it was these very same people you are accusing of supporting Isis that helped the Americans defeat the insurgency. Remember something called the “awakening”?

            But the darling of American politicians, Maliki, made sure he hunted them down and tortured and killed them and their loved ones while America kept sending him weapons to carry out his sectarianism.

          24. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            He’s not Americas darling, never was. The Americans were the first to ask for his departure. Stop lying and hiding behind your finger. How many cheered for 9/11? A good majority of Arabs and Muslims

          25. Lol who kept him in power after he lost the previous election? Keep denying the Americans were responsible for the mess that is Iraq. “SUPREME CRIME”. Ring bell dingaling?

          26. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            The Americans forced organization on the heads of the Iraqi. They brought order by force! And as soon as they left the country to its peopleS, they all decided to go at it like the barbarians they are. The Shia behaved just like th Sunnis in the days of Sadam and the Sunnis showed the truth of their fanaticism.
            Stop pointing fingers when you’re the one who hates organization…

          27. Waste of bytes

          28. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Don’t use my jokes, they’re copyrighted…

        3. “Now Iraq is yours,”

          Lol no mek, Iraq isn’t the Arabs. Your poster not bush illegally invaded Iraq on false evidence (kinda like hinds non existent evidence) and handed Iraq to Iran.
          What Iran couldn’t achieve through years of war with Iraq.
          Stop this bush cheer leading, the guy was a moron. In fact the while bush dynasty are morons.

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I’m not cheerleading bush, I think he should have been frank and said things as they were: we’re invading Iraq, Qatar and KSA because most people there supported and paid with their own money for the 9/11 attack. That’s the truth, can you deny it?

          2. “we’re invading Iraq, Qatar and KSA because most people there supported and paid with their own money for the 9/11 attack. That’s the truth, can you deny it?”

            HEll yeh I can deny it. You have no proof that MOST supported and paid for 9/11.
            What proof do you have?
            Please back your claim with proof.
            Remember the conspiracy theory debate we had?
            You said something along the lines of it is a conspiracy theory until PROVEN otherwise. And you always attack conspiracy theorists. Unless you provide proof, you are exactly that, a conspiracy theorist.

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            The proof is screaming in your face but you refuse to recognize it. I don’t remember having a debate with you…

          4. Lol is that your proof mr conspiracy theorist?
            And then exactly like hind you want me not to interfere in your posts coz you have been exposed? I’m sorry I actually held you in a higher standing than hind until that last comment.
            Next you will accuse me of stalking you and swear at my mother

          5. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            What is a proof then? A proof is something obvious for all to see (besides the self-blinded). What more proof do you want than a terrorist organization that is swelling under the number of muslim recruits from all over the world?
            A conspiracy theory is something closed, secret, hidden… I don’t see them hiding when they cut heads or burn people alive. No! They’re filming it! For all to see! This is the CALIPHATE of the Muslims. This is the Prophet’s successor they say. And what do you muslim do? You blame the dead for crossing the path of ISIS.
            Until I see all the Muslims standing up as one man to rid the world of these barbarians I will continue to believe that the majority is secretly or openly supporting them.
            But how can they? These ISIS are their fathers, brothers and sons…

          6. Lol ok sweetie. Keep going with your conspiracy theories. Don’t you just hate it when your own logic was used to wipe the ghetto you live in with you??

          7. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            stop using my jokes, be original and create your own…

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar

            That’s exactly what i said to her, copy-cat parrot original language is dark porn.

          9. Lol you Know you must be doing something wrong if hind is backing you up. I told you you are sounding like her/it.

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar

            You don’t remember having a debate with O barabie ?

      2. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Anti if you see this as truth lets stay on this train of thought.

        Will you look at ISIS as an american creation and stop feeling appologetic to justify our existance and prove muslims are not 5th column bad guys, asif muslims need to be told killing innocent life is wrong and feeling responsible for something america created?

        1. I don’t agree it’s created by the US. Iran has been the one that gained most. Always look at who gains most and that is usually, not always, the culprit. It was the Iranian stooge army in Iraq that conveniently left their US supplied weapons behind. After I just typed that it appears I may have slightly altered my opinion. Maybe it was created by both the US and Iran.

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar

    “The capacity of all Arab governments without exception to reach out to their people and the external world is disappointing,” … Hmmmm … diplomatic ‘under-statement’.

    1. Understatement would be saying you were just spineless

  3. He is true.

      1. Most people said..THE WORLD WILL LEAVE IN PEACE ONLY WHEN USA AND ISRAEL DISAPPEAR !

  4. Caribbean Avatar

    why he going so far back? it all started in Syria in 2011.The invasion of Iraq ain’t got nothing to do with Isis Creation.The Saudi sewers,the Zionist,& De Americans created Isis to destroyed Syria.Isis were call freedom fighters, rebels,& activists.Iraq was ok in 2011, the insurgency had already died down by 2011 except for a few car bombs.

    1. “Iraq was ok in 2011”

      If you are a Shiite then yes Iraq was ok. But ask all those Sunnis and christians you kept persecuting and torturing and jailing and killing if Iraq was alright. You guys can’t tell the truth even to save your own lives.

      http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/us-stays-mum-as-iraqi-government-kills-detains-abuses-protesters

      1. Caribbean Avatar

        not gonna get into Shiite Sunni division Zionist strategy.I’d remember before the invasion of Iraq the Sunnis were the bad guys prosecuting the Shiites, now the Zionist media telling me the Shiites are the bad guys prosecuting the Sunnis & want to conquer the middle east.

        1. Oh but you missed the Christians in my comment. Yes it was the zionists that were persecuting Sunnis and Christians and turkmens etc in Iraq. Of course. How silly of me not to have seen that.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Christians were exterminated by Sunnis Salafist. Before that by Ataturc, a Jew. Jabotinky was editor in chief of his paper, “The Young Turks”

            You Can’t Understand ISIS If You Don’t Know the History of Wahhabism …www.huffingtonpost.com/…/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.ht…

          2. Yes bigot. Anything you bark sweetie. Sunni Sunni Sunni
            Jewish Jewish Jewish.
            Typical Iranian whore

          3. Sunni are the father of Zionism??
            LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Complain to the author of article above.
            What i said is Sunni Salafis Wahhabi Zionism are Christian killers..Hate vandals attack Christian Seminary in Jerusalem, scribbling insults to Mary”..as you do here and yesterday ISIS destroyed Christian Church of the Virgin Mary, in Mossul…

          5. No you lying whore. This is what you barked.
            “Sunni Wahhabi Salfist are the fathers of Daes-ISIS-Zionism”

          6. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Yes that’s whai said: Takbeer.. Takbeer..
            ex-US Ambassador to Iraq and Syria, Robert Ford

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piN_MNSis1E

          7. זונה איראנית

          8. Hind Abyad Avatar

            i know.. you write bad Arabic in English characters

          9. I doubt you anything except how to whore your soul to the ayatoilets.

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar

            not original

          11. أمك ككل

        2. Buddy even Shiites that didn’t follow the Iranian agenda in Iraq were persecuted.

          In the interview, al-Sadr expressed sympathy for the protests, saying he does not differentiate between fellow Shi’ites and Sunnis. “What is happening in Anbar province is not a crisis, but a healthy phenomenon that reflects a popular and democratic movement,” al-Sadr said.

        3. Mr Sadr joined after strong pressure was exerted on him by Tehran, which was determined Mr Maliki, Iran’s ally, should succeed himself as premier.

          For a majority of Iraqis, Mr Maliki represents the Iran-nurtured Shia fundamentalists who returned to Iraq under US auspices after its invasion and occupation of the country.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar

            And you represent ISISIsrael

          2. You represent a donkey. Oh wait that means you represent yourself. Iranian whore

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar

            not original..you’re the Zionist Malmequer little Salafi dog,
            it prove Salafi-Zionist alliance that stinks to high heaven, bad actress.

          4. Badi shil kes emak

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar

            u intik, you reminde me of YaLibnan’s cow standing watching the trains go by..er..posts go by..

          6. “remindes me of YaLibnan’s cow standing watching the trains go by..er..posts go by..”

            Lol you would remember that seeing as you were that cow

        4. How come when the Sunnis were the bad guys you didn’t say it was a Zionist plot?

          “.I’d remember before the invasion of Iraq the Sunnis were the bad guys prosecuting the Shiites, now the Zionist media telling me the Shiites are the bad guys prosecuting the Sunnis”

          Very deceptive and, admittedly, cunning of you. So only when the Shiites are persecuting it is a Zionist plot of divide and conquer. But when it’s the Sunnis persecuting YOU remember the Sunnis persecuting Shiites and conveniently it wasn’t a Zionist plot.
          Buddy I see through your deception like I see through that daft mares.
          You and her are like twins

        5. Hind Abyad Avatar

          One of their other “noble” pretexts to invade Iraq, was to “liberate the Shia”.

          1. Caribbean Avatar

            You so right! it was all over the news, how the Shiites are being prosecuted in the middle east.Bush was feeling their pain and before the attack he aslo told us the Palestinian will have their state. it’s 2015 now where is the state?.wake up Arabs, they don’t give a crap about Shiites & Sunnis.

          2. Yes sweetie keep talking to yourself hind.

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Bahra barabia talks to everybody

          4. Lol yeh that totally proves you are not Caribbean.
            ابنة كلب

          5. ابنة كلب

            Lol

          6. Lol you never miss an opportunity to expose yourself. Why bother with clothing if you continually expose yourself. Just bare all and stop making life more difficult for yourself

    2. The Assyrian Orthodox Church is virtually extinct in Iraq. These are the real Christians… in Iraq since the 1st century. Now the Christian overseers of the US/ UK have destroyed them. They were supposed to protect them, they are the occupiers.There was NO Christmas in Iraq in 2010… they fled. And no one even noticed.

      http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94246.2505;wap

    3. Somebody forget to tell these Iraqis things were “ok” in 2011.

      nspired by the mass actions that took down U.S.-backed strongmen in Egypt and Tunisia, thousands of Iraqis have taken to the streets to protest the al-Maliki government – only to be greeted with live ammunition. On February 27, UPI reports that more than 29 protesters, including a 14-year-old boy, were gunned down by the Maliki-run security forces in Iraq. Meanwhile, four journalists in Baghdad report that they, along with hundreds of protesters, were “blindfolded, handcuffed, beaten and threatened with execution” for being insufficiently pro-regime.

      http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94246.2505;wap

    4. Somebody also forgot to tell women in Iraq that things were dandy.

      Women in Iraq have been particularly hit by the invasion and occupation. The Iraqi government estimates there are up to 3 million widows in Iraq today. Meanwhile, violence against women – including honor killings, rape and kidnapping – has soared , forcing many women to remain at home and limiting employment and educational opportunities, according to a new Freedom House report.

      1. Caribbean Avatar

        You missed understood my point.there wasn’t no serious fighting going on in Iraq by 2011.The invasion destroyed Iraq,I know that

        1. That’s not what you originally said.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Yes, you became serious, but out of the contest problem.

          2. You stayed delusional you Iranian whore

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar

            not original

          4. ابنة كلب

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Bye

          6. Lol bye??
            Now THAT is not original

    5. Lights still out (just like in that skull of yours)

      Eight years later, the living conditions of Iraqis are worse than under Saddam Hussein, with the country plagued by a continued lack of electricity, clean water, medical care and security. Iraqis wonder how it is, after the most powerful country in the world occupied it and ostensibly spent billions on reconstruction, they are still living in the dark.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        All it needs is to say ‘no security’, and all the rest is understandable.
        War IS Hell .. a bottom line. Doesn’t need the added Talibanis or Isisies to flavour the moment.
        Although, they do, and the tribalism ran rampant – even affecting an army, which ‘walked away’ from it’s duties to a country.

        1. Do you mean to say bush used fabricated evidence to attack Iraq, even though millions demonstrated against the invasion, coz he wanted to help Iraqis?

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It all depends on where the ‘propaganda’ is applied … doesn’t it?

          2. Butch you have the integrity of a mule

        2. Btw I notice you suddenly aren’t in the woods with bears. Integrity sweetie.

        3. 5thDrawer Avatar

          As example – where it’s obviously going well – Driving School in Kabul.

    6. I believe Iraq is our skeleton in the closet… it betrays every single delusion we have about ourselves. About being fair minded, for human justice, for allowing a nation to flourish and make the best of their people. I remember studying the Nazi Holocaust… I saw the film of Buchenwald where unimaginable horrors were done to innocent people. I read the accounts of survivors and of how Hitler mainpulated the media to bring down the Nazi terror on their own people and other nations. I heard everyone gasp and say “How could they let this happen?”, “Or I would’ve done something” Or “Never Again”.

    7. Tell me when you have gotten the message so I can stop inundating you with facts that will make your head spin like a Sufi.

  5. Who is going to hold them accountable??!!What has happened is not ^disappointing^!It is indeed tragic !!

  6. Agreed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 will go down in history as a top American foreign policy blunder.

    I think the invasion was a trap by Iraqi allies of Iran , specially Ahmed Chalabi who promised American soldiers roses upon arrival.

    When the American-led coalition invaded Iraq in March 2003, it marked a triumph for Chalabi, the scion of a prominent Baghdad Shiite family and a close ally of the Iranian regime who had long led efforts from abroad to overthrow the Saddam Hussein regime.

    America’s invasion and occupation of Iraq was not just badly implemented ,it was an irredeemably bad idea from the start. Certainly, U.S. action destroyed the Iraqi state. But, just as fatefully, the political displacement of Iraqi Sunnis by decisively larger Shiite and Kurdish communities attracted powerful patrons—e.g., Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab states—determined to help Iraqi Sunnis, including segments of Saddam’s disbanded army, fight to regain a disproportionate share of political power. Such were the roots of the insurgency that erupted within months of the U.S. invasion in 2003—stoked by an externally-facilitated influx of non-Iraqi Sunni fighters ,including a substantial number from neighboring Syria which the Assad regime wholeheartedly helped to facilitate.

    On the other hand Lakhdar Brahimi was the wrong man for the UN job. Just look at his face and you foresee disaster . Positions of this sort require people with leadership qualities which unfortunately Brahimi lacked

  7. Hind Abyad Avatar

    We are living a nightmare.. no Saddam or Maliki destroyed Iraq, the cradle of civilization, the birthplace of agriculture and writing and the home of the Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian, Babylonian and Arab civilizations had never witnessed such an assault on its rich cultural heritage since the Mongol era in the Middle Ages. –
    “What a pity! We used to go to the library in the 1970s. It was one of the greatest landmarks of Mosul. I still remember the special pieces of paper where the books’ names were listed alphabetically,” said Akil Kata who left Mosul to exile years ago.

    On the same day the library was destroyed, ISIS abolished another old church in Mosul: the church of Mary the Virgin. The Mosul University Theater was burned as well, according to eyewitnesses. In al-Anbar province, Western Iraq, the ISIS campaign of burning books has managed to destroy 100,000 titles, according to local officials. Last December, ISIS burned Mosul University’s central library. –

    1. You ARE a nightmare

        1. Blah blah.
          Go play in traffic you stalker or I head shop you for my photo chop so I can screenshot.
          You only come here coz of me.
          Yalibnan was dead when I wasn’t here.
          Stop copying me.
          I am hind and I’m delusional.
          Now FUCK OFF SLAG

        2. U bet your mum have you up for adoption

          1. Fucking autocorrect!
            I bet your mum gave you up for adoption

  8. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
    TheUSequalsTheIS

    we already knew this… some ppl just pretend they dont

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