U.N.’s Ban urges Israelis, Palestinians to avoid ‘abyss’

A Palestinian protester uses a sling to hurl stones towards Israeli troops during clashes near the Jewish settlement of Bet El, near the West Bank city of Ramallah October 20, 2015.  REUTERS/Ammar Awad
A Palestinian protester uses a sling to hurl stones towards Israeli troops during clashes near the Jewish settlement of Bet El, near the West Bank city of Ramallah October 20, 2015. REUTERS/Ammar Awad

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged Palestinians and Israel on Tuesday to step back from a “dangerous abyss” as he arrived on a snap visit to the region at the head of international efforts to quell three weeks of violence.

The bloodshed began with a string of stabbing attacks on Israelis in Jerusalem. One reason given by Palestinians for the violence is anger over perceived Jewish encroachment on Jerusalem’s al-Aqsa mosque, Islam’s third holiest shrine, also revered by Jews as the site of two biblical temples.

Speaking moments after arriving, Ban said the wave of unrest was undermining Palestinian hopes for statehood and Israel’s longing for security.

“This conflict has gone on for far too long,” he said. “We must, for the future of our children, come back from this dangerous abyss, safeguard the two-state solution and lead people back onto the road towards peace.”

Ban, whose trip was announced in Israel only hours before his arrival, later met Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem. He will see Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Wednesday, Palestinian officials said. Ban said he will also meet in Amman with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Thursday.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, who said he will hold talks with Netanyahu either in the Middle East or this week in Germany, has said Israeli and Palestinian leaders need to clarify the status of al-Aqsa compound to stop the violence.

Kerry planned to meet Abbas and King Abdullah, probably in Amman, later this week.

Palestinians are fuming at what they see as increased Jewish visits to the al-Aqsa plaza, where non-Muslim prayer has been banned for centuries. Israel insists it has made no changes to the rules at the site.

Perhaps showing how far apart the side are, Netanyahu said at the start of his meeting with Ban:

“President Abbas has joined ISIS and Hamas in claiming that Israel threatens the al-Aqsa mosque. This, Mr. Secretary, is a total lie. Israel vigorously protects the holy sites of all faiths. We keep the status quo.”

Under long-standing arrangements, Islamic religious authorities administer al-Aqsa. Israel allows Jews to visit but not pray in the compound in Jerusalem’s walled Old City, which it captured along with other parts of East Jerusalem and the West Bank in the 1967 Middle East war.

Abbas said Palestinians were also increasingly frustrated with the failure of peace talks to secure themselves a state. The last round of negotiations collapsed in April 2014.

“Our youth is pressured and desperate over the Israeli government’s failure and the absence of any political future that would provide hope of a fair and just peace allowing our people to be independent beside the state of Israel,” Abbas said in Ramallah.


Before Ban’s arrival, a Palestinian vehicle ran over and killed an Israeli motorist whom a Reuters photographer said was using a club to hit Palestinian protesters and cars on a roadside in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Israeli police said the man had stopped his car after stones were thrown at it.

The driver of the Palestinian vehicle, which the photographer said the Israeli had hit with his club, later turned himself in to Palestinian police, which had no comment on the event. Israeli police said it was not immediately clear if the Israeli had been run over deliberately.

Later, another Palestinian rammed his car into a bus stop near an Israeli settlement in the West Bank, injuring two people, the Israeli military said. It said the man then got out of the vehicle and tried to stab people before being shot by security forces. Police said he had been killed.

In two separate incidents in the West Bank city of Hebron three Palestinians stabbed and wounded two Israeli soldiers, before other troops shot the assailants, the Israeli military said. The Palestinian Health Ministry confirmed the Palestinian involved in the first incident was killed and an Israeli military spokesman said the other two assailants were also dead.

In Gaza, Israeli soldiers shot dead a Palestinian militant close to the border fence, the Israeli military said. Al-Sabireen, a small militant group, confirmed he was one of their members.

Before Tuesday’s incidents, eight Israelis were killed in stabbings, shootings and car rammings by Palestinians and Israeli Arabs in Israel, Jerusalem and the West Bank. An Eritrean, mistaken as an assailant during an Arab gunman’s assault in the southern Israeli town of Beersheba, also died after being shot by a security guard and kicked by a crowd.

Israeli security forces have killed at least 46 Palestinians, including 23 assailants and demonstrators, one of whom police said fired a gun at them.

In a newspaper interview published on Tuesday, Netanyahu, who has cautioned there was no “quick fix” to the worst Palestinian street violence in years, voiced confidence that the conflict would not widen.

“There will not be a mass conflagration in the name of religious war, including a flare-up in terms of missiles from Gaza and Lebanon,” said Netanyahu, who has had low public support since the violence erupted.

Early on Tuesday, the Israeli military said its forces had detained Hassan Youssef, a Hamas leader in the West Bank, for “actively instigating and inciting terrorism.”

Youssef has been arrested previously by Israel. Hamas, the Islamist group which controls Gaza, said Israel should expect “more revenge operations in defense of al-Aqsa”.



161 responses to “U.N.’s Ban urges Israelis, Palestinians to avoid ‘abyss’”

  1. “There will not be a mass conflagration in the name of religious war, including a flare-up in terms of missiles from Gaza and Lebanon,” said Netanyahu”

    Interesting. How does nuttyahoo know there won’t be missiles from iran’s paid goons in Lebanon and Gazza?? How very revealing

    1. cause “nutty” knows what arabs didn’t figure out yet- Iran will not lift a finger to help the palis per say.
      when the moment comes and iran decides to attack israel, it will be for the benefit of Iran and none else. right now Iran knows it will nt survive an Israeli retaliation attack, which is basicly what keeps it away. there is an ISraeli gun in pointed to Haminai’s head and Haminai has a gun pointed at bibi’s head. MAD has never been so obvious since the cold war era
      who ever believes Iran is doing anything for itrests other but it’s own is naive.

      1. I heard somewhere that all this was started to divert attention away from Syria. Don’t know If it’s true but it definitely started one day after Russia started its disgusting bombing campaign.

        1. this is when it started:
          i never fall for conspiracy theories simply cause in retrospect , everything will look as if there is an invisible guiding hand.
          usually the simple obvious story is the right one.

          1. That was a terrorist act.
            But settlers have no right being there.
            It’s time there were two states. And if need be, UN stationed along the wall that divides both parties.

          2. this is what Abu mazzen said. the racist declaired that palistine will be a jew free state (he also treats all of the holy land as palistine so even if obscure, he still wants to kill/expell all jews.
            ai wonder what would they say if we expelled muslims in order to have a muslim free Israel.
            said it before- there will not be a state in PA cause pali leadership does not want a state, they want the money.and what ever will come out of it will not be democratic nor peacefull
            throughout the last 20 years, there was 1 election , the leaders are corrupt or fanatics and i for one will not give them a staging area for the next war in the middle of our belly.
            if you think about it, if they get their state and pump it with weapons ,with IS ,IRGC & locals mixed together , the whole place will turn to hell , we’d be forced to re-enter IDF and what will happen there will be alot nastier then few dead israelis and some tens of dead arabs.
            us controling the security in WB is helping the security of WB more then any other option available today or before.
            ** everything said here, is my own assesment**

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Glad you threw in the ‘tag-line’ on assessment. :-))))
            BUT Yes … even Lebanon had one election. Cutting back on elections is probably necessary in impoverished countries. Some in the USA (maybe the 99%ers) would see that as a HUGE tax-saving. It’s incredible what they manage to spend on those things. We look south and just shake our heads, thinking it could have gone to health-care, for example, although they seem to love what they have – just sending extra bits to UN Relief orgs who work for Syrians in Liban….
            Since you’re assessing … can you tell me why Israel hates Peaceful Blue Lines and the UN Observers sitting on them? I ask because some of us ‘other guys’ lost some citizens doing the thankless task. Is it something about the shade of blue, maybe??

          4. well…it’s not about saving money that AM cuts the elkections, its cause he will not be re-elected. the PA is as paralized as Lebanon but for a longer time.
            about the UN..Geee…
            in 67 they cleared out the moment Nazer told them to take a hike.
            in Syria they sat for 40 years doing nothing and the first sign of trouble they evacuated themselves to the safty of Israel’s border.
            in lebanon they allow HA to build bunkers and to shoot missiles from the UN posts back yard. in Gazza they allow Hamas to store missiles in their schools, in the UN itself all they do is file complines against our “violace” while being absolutly quiet on the arabs jenociding each other…i really don’t see what good can come out of the UN or UN forces nowadays, mybe after the organization go through a huge reforme but not now

          5. “i never fall for conspiracy theories ”

            Do you believe “intelligence agencies” don’t plan and commit conspiracies?

          6. i believethat cause they all work in the shadows they have the ability to shape things and influance world events. however, it doesn’t mean we as everyday people will know of it or the way it affects us.
            regarding your comment:
            there are theories that Russia entered Syria to divert attention from Ukrain and now they say that the Israeli/Pali front is to cover for Syria? 🙂
            first- no itntifada would ever divert attention fro Syria. it will be really sad day when people and nations ignore a true genocide and focus on a minor conflict. the smallest in ME today.
            second- then we should return a favore. start a war between russia and it’s neighbors, possibly Ukrain. Oh great..they are already fighting , i can go back to doing nothing 🙂

      2. “cause “nutty” knows what arabs didn’t figure out yet- Iran will not lift a finger to help the palis per say”

        On that I disagree. The Arabs have known for a long time that Iran is full of shite.
        It’s kinda ironic that Israel is now supposedly alarmed Iran will one day attack it, considering it was Israel sending American weapons to Iran.

        the Israeli leader agreed to sell weapons to Iran at America’s behest, providing the sale had high-level U.S. approval.”


        1. And all that BS people were going on about, that the U.S. is planning to attack Iran. But before the U.S. Does attack Iran it will make Iran stronger by handing Afghanistan and Iraq to Iran on a silver platter.

          1. USA is getting the hell out of ME. it’s obvious Obama wants a way out. He is (or was) willing to give Iran the job of a regional cop/super power and get the hell out.

            regarding Obama, i still need to make up my mind if his forign policy is naive to the point of dumb or is it a well orchestrated plan to set the house on fire before he lives 🙂

          2. “USA is getting the hell out of ME.”

            I don’t agree. This is all planned out. Keeping the Jews, Muslims and Shiites fighting allows the U.S. to stay on top.
            Only problem is this “conflict/war” keeps expanding.
            I’m curious about the upcoming meeting in Vienna between spewtin, obumbler and the puppet queen salmon Saudi and the turkey ERRDogan. All they need is nuttyahoo and khara immi to join and it will be one fun party. While the poor average civilian suffers. FUCK ALL THOSE IN POWER ANYWHERE

        2. fishy…
          i don’t get it though, the US insisted on Israel selling arms to Iran ,for what purpose?
          and both countries are considered enemies of Iran

          ..going to a meeting, later

          1. They did get a hostage freed in return. But doesn’t explain the continual selling of weapons after the hostage was released.

            “Because of that deal, Rev. Benjamin Weir, held captive in Lebanon for 16 months, was released.”

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Wasn’t ‘cash’. Can’t tax ‘cash deals’.

          3. Lol are you tipsy or drunk atm?

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, it’s Logical. Refuse to pay a kidnapper cash. BUT, if you send supplies, somebody had to make them, which gave people work, and added taxes in sales along with income tax for workers. Kidnap victim gets off too. EVERYONE is a Winner.
            A reasonable flow of money in a circle.

          5. “EVERYONE is a Winner.”

            Try telling the victims of those weapons they are “WINNERS”!!!
            Stop drinking!!!!!!!!

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ah well … some depletion of raw material … replaceable.
            Important thing is that money rotates in a fair manner.

          7. You disgusting white trash. Is that what you barked when your dearly departed wife deserted you!?
            Disgusting cxnt

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I didn’t invent the uniqueness of money-flow. And you can’t see the Logic. Voila.
            Rant on … :-))))

          9. I was not talking about money flow and you know it. Stop hinding you vile drunk

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, you should know by this time that ‘victims’ (the replaceable component) also produce tax-bases with incomes which are created with the applications of ‘Flow Charts & Graphs’ – also hugely appreciated in Marketing Zones everywhere.
            ‘Bleeding Heart’ applications are relatively rare. ‘Victim Charts’ make things flow better.

          11. The ranter is ranting about ranting. Your hypocrisy and spinelessness is absolutely disgusting

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            This is more than hate speech about your dead wife!
            I can’t begin to understand it’s inhumanity

            “You disgusting white trash. Is that what you barked when your dearly departed wife deserted you!?
            Disgusting cxnt”

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yah .. But I can’t take out my 30-06 Enfield in here … 😉 Life as we know it.

          14. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Stop encouraging this, it’s depressing for the posters!

          15. Shhhh….. don’t interrupt .. learning

      3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Nettanyahou is khomeini’s sister.

        1. Lol I can totally see that.

        2. mybe, yet the Irani is using Israel as a pretext to invade and enslave your country…how does it feel to be an ignorants sheep with no control of your fate whatsoever?

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            LOLOL … Ah well, the comfort lies in the knowledge of the fact that, the megalomaniacs get a finger up the bum after age 50 too. 😉

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Iranian Jews in Israel don’t see it like Zionists.


          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            FOOD – The #1 thing that ‘The People’ come together FOR. It’s ALL about food.
            The arguments are between Gourmands and Gourmets. 😉

          4. Wait a little longer snake of lies watching the video as we speak be back to laugh at you in a minute

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well it better be something that PROVES that NO TWO PEOPLE ever see anything the same way.

          6. She is insane and a lier.
            Its not about not seeing eye to eye.its about refusal to accept responsibility, its about perserving hate in all ways possible even by knowingly circulating false information.
            She realy is a snake

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            :)The hate is Zionists like you.

          8. Really? 🙂
            Dont confuse hate and dislike..hating takes too much of your energy, consumes you from within

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I really doubt the insane bit. Could be as ‘dedicated’ as some of your folks. 😉

          10. Inability to grasp the difference between fiction and reality?
            I bet it falls under the spectrum of insanity

          11. It’s insanity, PURE hatred and an inbred.
            It hates Jews, Muslims, Western Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, gays, lesbians, even blacks.
            It is full of hate.
            I honestly tried to be peaceful with it but its hate got the better of it. That’s all probably coz it never leaves its basement.

          12. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Your prime minister says Palestinians are responsible for the Holocaust..I bet it falls under the spectrum of insanity, dodudle

          13. actually he said it was the mufti and it’s as dumb comment as can be.
            embaracing fool

          14. You are wasting your time with 5th. He lost his spine a long time ago

          15. I don’t agree 😛

          16. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            YouTube is full of your Your views…

          17. 🙂 try to say something outside the realm of cut & paste..what views did you decide i hold?

          18. It is calling Tehran for more instructions from khara immi

          19. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            There’s your Supremacist snakes


          20. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Must have been a bad pack of females … only sent one cop to explain ‘law’.
            I guess it’s ok to stand near females … they have to on planes. 😉

          21. But wait..these are the “non zionist” jews you love so much

          22. I PROMISE they were my EXACT thoughts. It does that ALL the time.
            Now watch how it will claim “I didn’t say “Jews”, the video did blah blah”. Disgusting bigot it is.

          23. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It’s a different Jewish tribe of ‘non-zionic people’. I’ll agree that Hind should specify which she admires the best.

          24. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The video talk for itself.. how Palestinian Christians are treated.
            Zionist Billionaires live in a bubble, they use these trouble makers for settlements to torment and abuse Palestinian villagers, shepherd, olive growers, plant illegal settlements (who become legal).. etc ..

          25. roughly:
            4 religious jews parties
            4 arab parties
            then you have likud/avoda/benet/yesh atid which are all center parties, little deviation left or right but it’s all center
            thats about all
            …Oh..we got “green leaf” too which supports legalizing marihuana but it seems they always forget when is voting day :))

          26. 5thDrawer Avatar

            ‘We’ elected the guy who supports M.J. and the GreenLady got in again. (Party of one.)
            Bad bad Conservatives bounced hard … as did all the workers, but then, we don’t have many of those anymore anyway. Too sad …

          27. i thought its a good thing that the democrats won

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            No, they are not Hasidim.

          29. LOLOLOLOL

            really child? and how did you reach THAT conclusion ? :))))

          30. :))
            You brought 1 woman who ,judging by her children ,atleast 25-30 years outside of iran and all she said was iranian love jews :)..and you arogantly deduct from this a: all iranian jews think alike b: she is not a zionist :))
            And you know whats funniest? Your comment has nothing to do ,not to mention contradict what i wrote:
            Iran never lifted a finger to help palistinians ,for 30 years only endless talking
            All this talking is merly a setup for iran to invade and control arab countries..no one questions the motives of an enemy of israel right 😉
            Iran didnt have to look far when looking for a viline prototype to atribute israel. Iran did to arabs all the things it claimes israel is doing. Till the very last bit ,from terror to anexing and depriving of rights to abuse.
            Dare you to chalange me on this one little hypocrite
            You have the ball ,lets play

          31. actually Iran has done worse to Arabs than what Israel has done. It’s responsible for at least 2 million dead Arabs.

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes, Interesting … “There has been unrest in the area for many years” ….
            The tribal drills carry on.

          33. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You can still distinguish a difference between Israel and Iran? Not only are you ugly but your stupid also.

          34. Lol yes “your” smart old man. Hahaha

          35. And yes I can distinguish between Israel and Iran but I can’t distinguish between your mouth and asshole.

          36. It will just resort to hinding. You and I both know it’s tactics.

          37. It just did 🙂
            Unable to compose a response and fading away with a show of self dignity

          38. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I have no time for you..

          39. Ofcourse you don’t …
            Have a good one 🙂

          40. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Play edgyman”Israeli arms dealer Yaacov Nimrodi apparently signed a deal with Iran’s Ministry of National Defense to sell $135,842,000 worth of arms, including Lance missiles,Copperhead shells and Hawk missiles.[5][6] In March 1982, The New York Times cited documents indicating that Israel had supplied half or more of all arms reaching Tehran in the previous 18 months, amounting to at least $100 million in sales.
            The Milan weekly Panorama reported that Israel had sold the Khomeini regime 45,000 Uzi submachine guns, anti-tank missile launchers, missiles, howitzers and aircraft replacement parts. “A large part of the booty from the PLO during the 1982 Lebanon campaign wound up in Tehran,” the magazine claimed.[5]

          41. and your point is?
            how does it support your claim Irani jews are not zionists?
            dont know about this guy but we had another, nahum manbar who did the same.he is locked up for the last 15 years

          42. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Correct Iran Is using Israel as a pretext to enslave or country, and Benji cuckoo is using some dead mufti as a pretext to kill Palestinians. And fate is what is going to happen when your world comes crushing down on you guys again as it has since day one. The chosen people keep putting evil first and Godliness last. Enjoy your work and I’ll enjoy watching.

          43. Oh boy.world crushing on us :))
            World crushed and rebuilt itself more then once yet we’re still around. As a matter o fact it’s in the proccess of crushing again right now 🙂
            We survived the assurians,babilonians,perssian,greek,romans,otomans empires not to mention our tender mercifull christian brothers. In russia poland and the icing on the cake-nazi germany
            They dont call us the eternal people for nothing you know 🙂
            If i were you id be more worried about the irani take over of your country and less about destroying israel…unless you dont mind beeing a slave fighting for its master’s cause 😉
            Shabat shalom

    2. And he is killing to gain more territories..he blame religion..the truth the war really about territories..not religion.He robbed Arabs territories.He want all the area,even all Arabs countries if he can.

  2. Robert Skinner Avatar
    Robert Skinner

    The Zionist that leave Israel the soonest will be closer to the front of the line in other countries.
    The Zionist that stay in Israel …. must not have many choices in life.

    1. 🙂 i lived and travled for 7 years on & off.
      lived in Europe, lived in the US, Canada and spent some time in the far east.
      there is no better place for me then Israel

      1. I strongly believe,Israelis gathered they by God to be killed by Arabs Muslims..when it is time..now US have their great problem..emp attack and Yuan devalue by China…..America eventually can not defend Israel like at the past..you better get out from Israel..before it is too late..I m better next to Nostradamus..even I hates Israelis who are killing Arabs..i still fond to some of them, on some them who are nothing to do with Zion Jews.

        1. well..no thank you 🙂 i believe in our strengh zabada yet if it’s prophecies you follow then jews have some too gog & magog propechy.
          first it say that the trouble will start from north (thats lebanon and Syria)
          then it say there will be a huge fight between the enemies of Israel which will take 7 years , the number of dead will be so huge that it will be impossible to burry all and the corps would be left for the animals to feed on.
          at the end of this 7 years fight, the Jewish Messiah will come… you believe that kind of thing and you can classify Syria’s uprizing as this huge war so according to this prophecy, you mihgt have only 2 more years to live zabada 🙂

          1. he he he…the situation in Iraq and Syria is not sided your points.But I ll let you believe what you want.

          2. Same to youe dear zabada.
            Even though imba zionist o have no bad feelings towards you 🙂

          3. But they are killing others..plotted to destroy others…playing death games…killing for oil regime supporter…they are bad to others.They are killing in thousands even millions…..created suffering on others…

          4. Even though i think you see us as monsters race i assure you we are not.
            Just like you i go to work every day to make ends meet.try to spend time with family and just live normal life.
            True we fought wars yet i donr agree with killing milions .

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad


          6. There goes the edit whore deceiving again

        2. nagy_michael2 Avatar

          Nobody will eradicate Israelis not you, Not ISIS, Not Hezbollah, Not Russia and not even the United States even it wants to. Even though I am pretty much against Israeli aggression and hate the settlers.. but in no way shape or form it’s written in the bible they will be killed by arabs. in fact they are already secret alliance between Israel, Saudi, Jordan, Egypt and who knows what other arab countries secretly dealing them. you will never kill Zion.
          Its bigger than you and all the arabs and the world according to you. so what makes you think anyone is going to eradicate them? kah kah kah.. lol

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Leaked emails prove Tony Blair’s ‘deal in blood’ with George Bush over Iraq war


          2. And now ,get the arabs to understand that and we can talk as equal ,we have the right to our state as well and better let go of past and work together to a better future.
            At that moment you’ll be surprised how cooperative and helpfull we can be.
            Thanks for being the first realist on this page 🙂

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            That’s why a Likud voter killed Rabin ?

            The two-year plot to kill Rabin


          4. Oh you’re such a tedious boring bitter woman :)always deflecting ,devoided of free thinking :))
            Ulmert did not act different then rabin,yet abu mazzen rejected his reached hand for peace.
            Had rabin been alive ,he would see through the pali lies as well.possibly faster then you would imagin possible

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Oh you’re such a boring bitter man 🙁 always deflecting, de…do..gna gna.. 🙁

            Uuulmert was not running for election when Rabin was murdered, Nutenyahu won and gave the killer permission to vote for him from prison. BORINGMAN

          6. Sweetie, why do you believe mekhh coined the term “hinding”? Xoxoxo
            Your hypocrisy is disgusting

          7. same as all prisoners , he has his rights as well. i know you don’t agree with “rights” unless it’s your “rights” yet, if we let the arab terrorists murders go through University degree on our expanse, it’s perfectly acceptabale that a jew terrorist murder will retain his voting privilage.
            btw litlle whiner..every prisoner in every country has a right to vote. being a criminal does not mean he loses all his rights too

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I thought I was doing rather well on realism … hmmm

          9. In your own beautifull way 🙂 you’re a great story teller 5th but he just poured a bucket of ice water on zabada 🙂

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, Doron, since everyone insists on going back into the ‘poetic ages’ and quoting the overly-flowery stories, I thought if I went for ‘style’, instead of just dreary facts, a few modern ‘parables’ might make more sense.
            Perhaps that is what’s wrong … no-one has written parables in a long time … although the Bothers Grimm gave it a good shot. 😉
            Thanks for enjoying. 🙂

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Not really..nagy means ..no need to nuke nobody is going to nuke.

          12. “better let go of past and work together to a better future.”

            That applies to everybody and very good advice. 2,000 years later and we are still arguing about things 2,000 years ago

        3. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Oh Zabada … There is some truth in the words … Humans DO have such ‘visions’.
          So I’ll tell you where I got mine from.

          Back in the good old days when I was a wheel-greaser for the Crusaders, I have to admit there were times of great doubt I had taken on the right job. Every day was a stinking slog with a mass of sweaty men pushing the wagons out of mud or sand, and simply feeding or watering the horses made muscles ache at the end of the day. And polishing the armour was a thankless task around the campfire. The Grand March was really bloody hell most of the time. Even finding a chicken for the pot was tough in the sand dunes … not like ‘home’ where we could poach a fine stag on occasion.
          And I try to put the memories of the ‘clean-up’ after some silly battle for a castle out of my mind.
          But there were a few times I would climb a hill to get away from the seething bloody noisy stinking mass, to sit behind a bush and have a relaxing dump closer to God, and I would see before me ‘Our Vast Armada’ spread on the plain below. I have to tell you it was a Glorious Sight To See, from the distance. It’s the one Vision I hold Most Dear in my head, about the whole event. You really had to be there … In The Moment, as they say … the artists rarely did it justice or captured the feeling.
          Ahhhh ….
          AND THAT would lift ‘the spirit’ so much, I would find a renewed strength and march happily back down the hill to grease a wheel, confidence restored that I had chosen ‘my path’ wisely. I know a lot of the ‘front men’ didn’t make it back. (there was less armour to polish as time went by)
          And yet, THE VISION remains. It was Glorious. I lived for those moments.

          I assume ALL ’The Supremes’ had similar visions from time to time.
          These days as I bounce the kiddies on my knee, it’s the only one I’ll describe to them.
          Any of the other little visions that creep in only make me cry.
          But I also tell them that greasing wheels wasn’t a bad job to have, back in ‘The Times’. It’s probably the reason I’m still here, after all, even if the best they can do these days is replace the ‘factory-sealed-lifetime-of-steel’ modern ones.
          We ALL need a vision, don’t we? Why, I even imagine one of them bouncing kiddies on the knee some day. It’s another vision.
          Sort of Glorious itself, if one forgets the diapers on The Path..

          1. See US nuke Tianjin,China.In Web and you tube.Now they mess up with new nation.US is not satisfied if they killed half of people on the earth..I guess they devils..

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I dare say, then, that YouTube, as with the older artists, cannot give a ‘true feeling’ of being ‘In The Moment’, and a part of ‘The Vision’.

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Zabada is a Jewish hater as Zionists are Arab haters, both believe in Apocalypse.

            Are there any Zionists working for peace? Any ISIS preaching peace?
            There are Jews and Palestinians for Peace

            Facing down hecklers in NY, Gideon Levy calls for equal rights for all in one state

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            We had a few years of ‘Peace’ when we proclaimed ‘Make Love Not War’ … very short-lived … it’s a lost concept.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            PS. Correction, Zabada is Jewish and Christian hater as Zionists are Arab and Christian haters.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I contemplate, that the vast majority of the ‘people walking away’, whether they realize it or not, are leaving behind these ‘believers of death’ … and we’ll all be much happier when they achieve their goals and are gone.

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Israeli Hummus Joint Gives 50% Discount to Jews and Arabs Eating Together
            (Not Zionists), Zionist billionaire elite lives in a bubble fare from Jewish people diversity.


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            hehehehe …. the only small problem there may be the ‘Jewish Falafel’ … as it was the Egyptian invention. :-))))

          9. 🙂 it does sound awkward. I can assure every egyptian reading that: we do not wish to anex falafel! 🙂 great street food and we’re thankfull for it 🙂

          10. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            And babaghanouj.. Palestinian Dabka.. Olive Oil from Occupied Territories “Made in Palestine” etc…

            Are American Donors Helping To Fuel Jerusalem Tensions With Settler Push?

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Export More Lebanese. !!! (Olives, I mean …)

          12. Yo

          13. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Yo Yo man

          14. lol.. it was a mistake

          15. Boring….
            Personaly, never tasted babaganush but humus….ive been to the best in israel. One of the best is in ramla, a christian arab which makes the best humus in the world .i call it humus for advance class,hard core humus 🙂

          16. Dubium sapientiae initium Avatar
            Dubium sapientiae initium

            Did you tried the “McFalafel”?

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Only one thing I eat there – maybe once a month … The Angus Burger.
            Goes well with the Glens. 😉

          18. Beware new guy..may be he is u.s spy..CIA…khah..khah..khah..u.s Zion have many spy all over the world..they decided to control all over the world..even the world too large for them.

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I try to stay ‘aware’ Zab. 😉 When a guy in Tripoli can look at you and say: ‘Canadian? Must be an Israeli SPY’, you KNOW you have to be aware. :-)))

          20. Wow you are original. Consideing I posted about that hummus cafe TWICE already. Dumb ass shite

          21. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Then YOU should be happy she took note of it, Dorkus.

          22. Lol what a why to twist hind leg’s blindness.
            Go brush your teeth after all that ass licking

          23. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Zabada support ISIS maybe because he’s profoundly disillusioned by the history of Western attacks on Arab countries..i don’t know

          24. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I suppose he could be.
            I play an ‘on-line game’ … you can be a builder (necessary) … and/or a warrior. Your choice.
            But if you don’t build an army, at least for defence, some guys will keep walking over you and taking the supplies. Which hampers building. You don’t need to be a fighter doing attacks … but you can expect them. Defence & building suits me fine. Others, obviously not. And some build nothing but huge armies to rape&plunder … no finesse with the Economics of successful building.
            I cannot beat guys who will spend big $ to ‘be’ tops. But I can make them pay for attacking if they do.
            I don’t think the Saudis or Oman did badly on that score. Until recently, perhaps. 😉

          25. There goes the hypocritical religious bigot. Such lovely morals you Arab Christians on this blog have. ALL self professed Arab Christians on this blog are liars, bigots and uneducated

          26. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Which DOES make us wonder what you are, sometimes.

          27. Lol back to speaking in plural ay.
            You are one spineless useless old drunkard. White supremacist scum

          28. “Zabada is a Jewish hater ”

            Lmfao. Your hypocrisy is disgusting

          29. for sure….limited to bad Jews only..not nice Jews among them.

          30. Isis exist after Zion destroyed them in Iraq…dethrone their leaders…collaborated with the Shiites and killing 600,000 of them in Iraq…at the times of Saddam there are no a single isis..isis is not isis ..isis is iraqis Sunnis like me.Zion and u.s make mistake by killing some of us…Zion and u.s must kill all 1.5 billion sunnis.,the majority of muslims..if not, there will be great catastrophe in future..1.5 billion of sunnis will find ways to revenge…that why thousands of sunnis fled to iraq and Syria from dozens of countries and joined iraqis and syrians sunnis…our brotherhood is so strong to be defeat by Zion and the whites.We can,t sleep peacefully…if they hurt our right leg..our left leg also feel sick..it is what we feel…it is what we behave…why they tested our patience ?.

        4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          I strongly believe that you should be barred from breeding. I hope your stay a virgin for another 50yrs.

          1. Lol sweetie I’ve had nearly as much cock as your momma has. Now get back under the house ta ibn sharmouta

          2. no nation would fight for virgin..it is weird.

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            hehehe .. yah … those only occur when people blow themselves up – especially if the bomb was in the underwear.. ;-))

  3. What happen in US Zion now..?..Jade Helm ..emp attack by Russia..or Chinese or Iran or all the three.now calculated in many webs..You tube…they really knows who attacked them..now they are scared….This arrogant USA terrorist have many problems..trillion of debts…USA would succumb to their feet years in near future…now they lost their arrogant…there is in verses..God will defeat the brutal strong nation by another strong nation..I hope Chinese would bombing them to death like they have done in Iraq and Syria.Destroy this arrogant Whites to stabilize the world…in future many nation will annihilate them..good by the Almighty America..America will turn to third world country in very near future…they make mistake by abandon their emp weapons..arrogant people always make many mistake..now feel it..Chinese,Iran and Russian now dominated emp…..the most scared weapons human ever invented…China also devalue Yuan also bring USA to their feet…thanks to God…USA take your face between your crotch..this is the fate for Muslims killers in Iraq,Syria and Afghanistan…USA Whites terrorist from the West.I hope the Chinese would nuke and kill them all,after they nuke Chinese in Tianjin and Suzhou,also planned 9 11 to killing Arabs for oil.now they nuke China because Chinese devalue their yuan. This an act of terrorist…Iraqis Sunnis also created their gold money..US have no chance to rob them and destroyed petrodollar at it,s worse…The world can not spared these whites terrorist in order to plant peace on the earth.They are the worse nation I ever seen…where is American.?.show you face in here..people of the world want to see your annoying faces in here…keep in mind no body going to pardon USA…emp countries would destroy you at it worse…and you USA knows that…even Russia emp will no defeat the Muslims..let we see…

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Zab. I understand the Angst. Have a bit myself. As a friend, I need to say that We admire the praying. Praying is good for the soul. Nothing wrong with praying, per se. ‘We’ do it too. We admit that.
      BUT literally everything can be overdone, as we know. One can keep a prayer running 24/7 in the head, after all. What we keep trying to say is that it just doesn’t get the work done. You need to re-arrange the prayer time a little so it doesn’t interfere with production quotas – whether those are for plows or guns – or wheel bearings.

      1. White supremacy

        1. If you are Historian…the whites hyper active people who bring chaos and suffering in here..from the beginning at Rome times.of course not all of them…the second may be the Mongol..Hulagu Khan..Arabs really make mistake by abandon their modern weapon industries and civilization…it is too late…their fate really in God,s hand.But they must fight to the end.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Perhaps it’s better to just promote The End … And wait for it.
            Forget all the stuff in between Alpha and Omega.
            (or is that now ‘Zmega’ .. hmmm … can see why ‘O’ is upset 24/7.)

          2. o.k thanks….friend..i m going to my bed.

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            Good Night CupCake.. say hello to my Caliph Friend.

          4. Hannibal Avatar


          5. Trust another old arab Christian to find its brethren funny.
            “Birds of a feather ….”

            I bet you were molested by your priest when you were a boy.

          6. Hannibal Avatar

            You got it backward… I molested him…
            Sieg Heil!

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            hehehe … sounds like her …

          2. Wow you are growing a spine. You should thank me

          3. Funny how it’s only Christians attacking me. Speaks volumes about Christianity.

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad


          5. Lol there goes the hypocritical whore again.

          6. Of course a Christian would support hitler. Typical

          7. Hannibal Avatar

            Coming to a neighborhood near you.

          8. I guess this kind of white is better.

          9. The pict show the withes killed each others…and it is also an elements of Jews separated them to fight each others..a about 100 million perished.Now they are killing Arabs for oil regime supporter.

    1. He will wake up quickly when he feel Isis knife on his neck….He is really wanted by isis..

  4. Hind Abyad Avatar
    Hind Abyad

    Netanyahu’s Settlement Record. 20.10.20
    Jointly authored by Lara Friedman, APN (USA) and Hagit Ofran, Peace Now (Israel)


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