Netanyahu under fire for claiming Palestinian cleric inspired Holocaust

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netanyahu-holocaust-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has come under fire after suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader convinced the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate European Jews.

Netanyahu told a group of Jewish leaders on Tuesday that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Nazi sympathizer Haj Amin al-Husseini, convinced Hitler to destroy the Jews.

“Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews,” Netanyahu said. When Hitler asked al-Husseini what to do, Netanyahu said he replied: “Burn them.”

Opposition leaders have slammed Netanyahu’s comments as a gross distortion of history and an incitement to hatred against Palestinians, coming in the midst of a wave of violent unrest and Israeli-Palestinian tensions.

“This is a dangerous historical distortion and I demand Netanyahu correct it immediately as it minimizes the Holocaust, Nazism and… Hitler’s part in our people’s terrible disaster,” Zionist Union leader Isaac Herzog wrote on his Facebook page.

“This is a great shame, a prime minister of the Jewish state at the service of Holocaust-deniers – this is a first,” said Itzik Shmuli, an MP for Herzog’s opposition party. “This isn’t the first time Netanyahu distorts historical facts, but a lie of this magnitude is the first.”

Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini meeting with Adolf Hitler in December 1941. Photo credit: Wikimedia Commons

Arab Joint List leader Ayman Odeh said Netanyahu “is rewriting history in order to incite against the Palestinian people”. He added: “The victims of the Nazi monster, among them millions of Jews, have become cheap propaganda in the service of peace rejectionism.”

Israeli daily Haaretz reports that Netanyahu made a similar claim in 2012, when he told Israeli lawmakers that the former Grand Mufti was “one of the leading architects” of the Holocaust, in which more than five million Jews were murdered.

Fringe historians have made the suggestion in the past, but it has been rejected by established scholars.

“To say that the Mufti was the first to mention to Hitler the idea to kill or burn the Jews is not correct,” Dina Porat, a professor at Tel Aviv University and the chief historian of Yad Vashem, Israel’s Holocaust museum, told Israel Radio on Wednesday.

“The idea to rid the world of the Jews was a central theme in Hitler’s ideology a long, long time before he met the mufti,” she said.

Porat and others pointed out that the murder of the Jews began in June 1941. Even if the Mufti wanted the Final Solution to be expanded, he was not the one who came up with the idea.

“For somebody who knows something about history and grew up in the house of historian Professor Benzion Netanyahu, he should know well,” Porat said of the prime minister. “But in my humble opinion, to say that the mufti gave Hitler the idea is wrong.”

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300 responses to “Netanyahu under fire for claiming Palestinian cleric inspired Holocaust”

  1. arzatna1 Avatar

    Netanyahu is either trying to be funny or trying to rewrite history.
    But seems he failed in both cases
    No one is laughing
    and historians are telling him he is wrong

  2. Reasonableman Avatar
    Reasonableman

    All part of the social media war. Distractions.

    1. Reasonableman Avatar
      Reasonableman

      While his at it blame falastin for.
      – hiroshima blast
      – all the earthquakes and thunderstorms
      – athiesm
      – poverty
      – syria
      – isis
      – afghanistan
      – slavery.

      Doron care to explain how this zionist is taking responsibility. I am unsure of your position but i do recall you being right wing??

      1. arzatna1 Avatar

        Netanyahu is obviously trying to befriend Hitler.
        “Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews,” Netanyahu said. When Hitler asked al-Husseini what to do, Netanyahu said he replied: “Burn them.”
        Netanyahu forgot to mention that to Hitler the Arabs and the jews were both Semites and he was vehemently anti-Semitic

        1. Hey is it true that some cedar trees are at least a thousand years old?
          I tried googling but gave up

          1. arzatna1 Avatar

            I have seen one that is reportedly 1500 years old , but I understand the oldest is about 2500 years old

          2. Oh WOW. I would love to see something that old. That is just mind blowing. Just thinking about it growing for that long gives me goosebumps.
            And thank you for replying xx

      2. he is an idiot for saying that :)reminds me of the time he claimed Irani women can’t wear jeans
        when i heard it first i shook my head in disbelief. “OH No..he didn’t just say that” style.
        even though the wako Mufti did attempt to ally himself with hitler,hitler killed jews by the hundreds of thousands even before the two psycos ever met

        1. Doron, women wearing jeans is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to blaming Palestinians for the holocaust.
          Nutty needs to resign! NOW!!

          1. btw, i think this is why and where bibi got his info from:
            it’s a quote from the Nuremberg trial documents
            http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=181493

            if it’s legite then Bibi is 60% wrong ‘not 100%..

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            One can maybe understand the mufti nodding in acceptance of the Hitler Solution … I’m sure he didn’t want to see the exodus OF THAT period of time landing on his doorstep.
            Just like ‘some’ don’t seem to want to see the modern exodus landing on theirs.
            But giving a nod is not coming up with ‘the plan. Especially when looking at the wrong end of the gun-barrel of the ‘planner’.

          3. I can’t believe you just said that. I’ve lost respect for you.

          4. Too bad but thats up to you

          5. Ok not total respect but it did chip away a little 🙂

            I was being extreme that day

          6. :))) we all have those days and i can’t expect you to agree with me when we’re supposed to be on the opposit sides of the trenches.
            no harm done and no offence taken

          7. Thanks doron. It’s times like that which prove one is reasonable. Xx

          8. According to yours and nutty’s logic, nutty is responsible for the deaths of Syrians by Russians coz he met with spewtin before spewtin started the massacring.
            And we all know “nutty is a Arab hater”!

            Just reversing your words to show how ludicrous

          9. So you assume we’re in leage woth russia and shia iran to start a mini world war ?
            Bibi went to russia cause the russian move and the iraninan declarations of cooperation alarmed israel like evey other ME state. According to news sites putin “generously” agreed to have a line of communication with israel to prevent accidents but he didnt realy give a F about the israeli reauests for whatever they asked there.
            Second, even if he is a crazy arab hater ,you think anybody here would be dumb enough to let him start a war? :)) no israeli would send his sons to die for other reason then defending israel period. We’re not aspiring to become an empire. 7 Fing million people, how much land do you think we need??

          10. “So you assume we’re in leage woth russia and shia iran to start a mini world war ?”

            Lol that wasn’t the point I was making.
            I just switched mufti for nutty and spewting for shitler.
            I was trying to show you that just coz an enemy meets up with another enemy, it doesn’t not mean they are meeting to plot war or holocausts.

            Does anyone even have a transcript of the mufti and shitler’s meeting?

          11. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I thought you said Bibi was an idiot..yet you justify him..

            Nuremberg trial
            http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/01-03-46.asp#wisliceny

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar

            The Fish Stinks from the Head. GENERAL Policy.
            “WISLICENY: Yes. Until 1940 the general policy within the section was to settle the Jewish question in Germany and in areas occupied by Germany by means of a planned emigration. The second phase, after that date, was the concentration of all Jews, in Poland and in other territories occupied by Germany in the East, in ghettos. This period lasted approximately until the beginning of 3 Jan. 1942.
            The third period was the so called “final solution” of the Jewish question, that is, the planned extermination and destruction of the Jewish race; this period lasted until October 1944, when Himmler gave the order to stop their destruction.”

            “Eichmann told me not to be sentimental; it was an order of the Fuehrer’s and would have to be carried out.”

            Why would a Mufti staring down a German gun-barrel argue with ‘general policy’? 😉
            All things considered …

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Some bits of history are still recorded .. ;-))

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar

            “Oh what a tangled web we weave …” 😉

          15. I did say that and i do believe that.
            Taking a specific inccident and try to make it look as a reason or a starting point for something is an idiotic thing

          16. “i think this is why and where bibi got his info from”

            “you know what they say on assumptions? they are the mothers of all fuckups”

          17. Lol
            stating “i think” means im not sure 🙂 only some fast reading i did yesterday. By no means i know this was what he means

        2. Reasonableman Avatar
          Reasonableman

          Hey doron so believing he tried to ally himself with hitler means you also think he played a part in the holocaust.
          You now have me shaking my head in disbelief, asif trying to cleanse yourself of responsibility of what is happening to the falastiniyi and be able to tell yourself “it’s not my fault”.

          Something falastini always has to be the scspegoat so lets re-write history together.

          the apple adam ate was a falastini apple.

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Straight off jpost
            “All Germans know the history of the murderous race mania of the Nazis that led to the break with civilization that was the Holocaust,” Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman Steffen Seibert said when asked about Benjamin Netanyahu’s remarks.

            “This is taught in German schools for good reason, it must never be forgotten. And I see no reason to change our view of history in any way. We know that responsibility for this crime against humanity is German and very much our own.”

          2. you know what they say on assumptions? they are the mothers of all fuckups and your assumption regarding me is no different.
            was the mufti responsible for the final solution? no!
            was he a wacko jew hater arab muslim which sought the anihilation of jews? deffenitly Yes!
            any more assumptions?

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Dude your being apologetic.

            Somebody who was not part of the problem or solution is not even worth being brought up let alone chastised. Thats an agenda.

          4. i didn’t bring it up and sure as hell i’m not apologising for anything , not by a long shot.
            i do not agree with Bibi’s assesment yet the name of the mufti has been brought up and before some here try to make a saint out of him , it’s only fair to ephesise he was a true jew hater.
            i never apologize when i’m right

          5. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Ok doron you couldn’t call bibi an idiot without using the “grand mufti” as a scape goat to push the jew hating falastiniyi narrative even though you declare him not being part of the problem or solution.
            (grand mufti being a title given by colonialists btw)

            Thats what being apologetic for your agenda means.

          6. a: you can ask 5th what i think of Bibi, i called him an idiot long before today 😉

            b: i didnt gave him the grand mufti name and i dont care who did, west or east,seriously who cares

            c:to suth your mind it’s not all fiction ,here is your start point incase you decide to dive in and find what happened yourself: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=181493

            never apologize when I’m right , i take responsibility for my words and actions and it is truth.

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            No ofcourse lets dismiss all colonial involvement, lets dismiss all the facts and stick to what YOU want to push. Falastini jew haters / extremists / islamismness .

            Yallah keep milking the fear mongering cow and you reap what you sew and you sew vice.

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Let’s assume information flowed around the world back in 1939 … albeit much more slowly than a tweet … and ‘ideas’ are seen here and there in different ways by people having different experiences of basic life – which is about survival. Some get ‘All Feared Up’ and chat among themselves … nodding heads nodding together … in harmony sometimes.
            Somebody drops a comment … and even if it doesn’t ‘ring true’, there is no reference material on-hand to refute it … so even doubters continue to nod.
            And what you have here is Bibi nodding too long on the Power Train.

          9. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            I see what you did there 🙂 until today the world is stunned at the “technology” of the ancients, ex. The pyramids, mummies, myans polishing stone to mirror with bare materials etc. I wouldn’t call chatter of the ancients based on nothing but the 2 extremes fear and joy.

            You have to respect their culture where they didn’t need books they were able to memorise hours worths of conversations letter by letter and only had to listen once.

            I do understand where you are coming from, i am not blaming colonists for the death of people at the hand of muslims, thats absurd and justifying death to innocence. (Like mab and hannibal do) instead with the colonisation, the epistemology had changed, interpretation knowingly and unknowingly were created upon a liberal definition at the time. Ex. Instead of focusing on expanding knowledge for the better of humanity things instead became limited and the knew reality was power and politics.

            Under colonisation muslims suffered and from it came this reaction. Infact it was known and exploited the brits would find a house muslim educate them and give them names like “grand/supreme mufti”(whatever that means.

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar

            My Grandmother was one of those ‘people of the spoken word’.
            We should have recorded her … some real history is always lost, isn’t it?
            🙂 Yes, The Discoveries of what ‘ancient people’ did can surprise us … because we don’t think we are the same as they were – and yet we are. Human. A man could spend his lifetime carving a stone and be happy – now he has to sit in an office for 8 hrs. No time to carve, after adding in travel time … or Friday shopping. SO … which is ‘better’ in the sense of humanity? If you had been able to give that old stone-cutter a diamond-saw and etching tool run by a computer he may have given up the poor chisel and hammer. BUT, he would probably have created the same designs. Based on the culture of his time.
            And isn’t it those ‘cultural’ things held in awe in ‘Art Emporiums’ or Museums?
            An Appreciation, at least, of a fact of existence.

            I sure don’t think everything is ‘better’ now – but many things actually are, for the ‘average human’ – even if he no longer knows how to fix it when broken.
            And really, we STILL learn some things, if we apply the Logic Function. Here’s one. 😉
            Another ’True Myth’ Takedown …
            http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/snake-not-guilty-of-killing-cleopatra/ar-BBmjt4e?li=AAacUQk&ocid=mailsignoutmd

          11. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            That’s what YOU appreciate 5th again talking white privilege trying to push my ideas to the fringes of post-structuralism.
            Well i don’t expect somebody who thinks knowledge is centered to come up with anything different.

            We have alot to learn, from others.

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar

            What has ‘white priviledge’ got to do with whatever ‘post structuralism’ is.? Man ….
            So YES, I appreciate the ‘Art’. I notice differences in it – from other times and other peoples. I happen enjoy it. I even have a shot of where one sculptor died and the next took his place carving the thousands of ‘fertile eggs’ on the corinth of the Temple of Bachus at Baalbeck. The ‘daily job’ – not of a ‘slave’ but of a craftsman – who did at least ONE thing very well. The LIFE of that time period. And the structure itself is a wonderful design.
            Just because some people came along later and bashed it around doesn’t change that.
            Does that make it ‘Pre-Stucture’?? That it was carved stones??
            If my house is brick, does that make it ‘white’? I fail to see what your comparisons are.
            I cannot expect your house and my house to be identical.

          13. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            LoL you know what just forget it.

            Life could have been very different and more would be here to appreciate if “others” allowed people to think freely of anything other then “survival”.

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, if you get into ‘university language’ such as that ‘post structuralism’, I’m not the guy to talk to. I didn’t get into there with the engineers. 🙂
            Although I DO know why my house is built like it is.

          15. Man…what do you want?
            Yes bibi was wrong,yes the mufti was a kuku head jew hater.
            Dont throw a tantrum cause i point there are some arabs outthere who hate jews so much and wish we all be killed

          16. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Tantrum? You hitting on me?
            Our convo ended when you couldn’t recognise that people don’t just randomly accuse someone who has nothing to do X of having something to do with X.

          17. no it ended with you denying Mr X had something to do with Y (not as big as Bibi say it is but still a significant part).

          18. Nutty is kuku head Arab/Muslim hater.
            There are some Jews out there that hate Arabs/Muslims and wish they all be killed.

            Anyone can throw inflammatory accusations and insults around.

            Reasonable did catch you with your “bibi idiot but mufti/Arabs worse”.
            Considering the whole world thinks you and bibi are wrong about the mufti, why do you keep turning the subject onto Arabs?
            The article is about nutty

          19. i said the mufti is just as bad and i stand by this
            i also say that even if bibi made a mistake there by not beingaccuarat/checking his resources, the mufti was still a big nazi supporter and should not be considered innocent only because bibi exagurated his part.
            still a jew hater and it’s a sweet sweet revenge that the only time he got into alaqza after 1948 was in 1967 after israel took the temple mount. the hater got to live and see the defeat and die humiliated . a fitting end for a jew hater

          20. Can you provide proof that the mufti was a nazi supporter? And not by some extremist Jewish site.

            Btw time magazine must have been a nazi supporter.

            “Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938
            Monday, Jan. 02, 1939”

            http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539,00.html

          21. http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/hitlers-mufti catholic site.

            plenty writen of this meeting , of the mufti’s expectations etc. you can read it all there.
            and yes, Hitler was considered somekind of today’s putin , plus the cradentials as someone who took germany to greatness again, he was idelized in GB too till he started the war. jew’s fate bothered no one back then

          22. According to you, plenty written but yet you keep posting the same link.

            Is that link from evangelicals?

          23. i posted it once

          24. You posted it once to me and you posted it once to reasonable. But in total on this article it is not once.

          25. Oh, i didn’t pay attention.
            ok , i posted it twice 🙂

          26. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “For Zion’s Sake”- Christians United For Israel finance the settlements and help Christian disappearance in the Levant, where Christianity was born.

          27. What is that one now?

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “I consider CUFI to be a vital part of Israel’s national security”. —Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu”
            http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer

          29. And visiting someone does not mean support.

          30. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Which must apply to Bibi visiting injured ‘soldiers’ in a hospital … too. 😉

          31. According to doron, the mufti was 60% responsible.
            It’s crazies like this that perpetuate the killing

          32. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Zionists back to Europe, falastin for everybody.
            Europe also for everybody.

          33. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You didn’t bring it up? It’s always brought up in Zionist “talking points”, never mentioning Palestinian families in Hebron saved 175 Jews by hiding them in their home..

            “In Mufti Speech, Netanyahu Shows His Obsessive Hatred for the Palestinians”.
            http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.681790

            “Yad Vashem’s Chief Historian on Hitler and the Mufti: Netanyahu Had It All Wrong”
            http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.681718

          34. You are hinding

          35. Sorry doron. I shouldn’t have said that.

          36. “before some here try to make a saint out of him”

            The only one trying to make a saint out of anyone is you with nutty.

          37. Never voted for the guy, never trusted him and never tried to make him apear more then he is

          38. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You need to start being right.

          39. You need to start being human.

          40. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Yes miss pig.

          41. Yes I miss pig like you

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Said the Beast

          43. Yes miss pig.

          44. I am, unless you can prove me wrong and in that moment i promise to also apologize…which is something you,in contrast, will never do never

          45. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            In contrast there a many things you guys do that I would never do, apologising isn’t one of them.

          46. can you give an example or kindly get the F out of my face little hipocrit?

          47. “In contrast there a many things you guys do that I would never do, ”

            Like being human obviously. You should try being human one day.

          48. Don’t expect the Arab Christians to ever provide proof for their false accusations.

          49. i expect him to shut up, mybe not today mybe not tommorow but eventually he will shut up

          50. Wishful thinking but I doubt it will be ever get an education. Coz that’s what it needs so it can realize how disgusting it is.
            And now you know why at its age it is still single.

            On another subject, do you know any Sachers (meaning someone from the sachet family)?

          51. i don’t expect to educate him O 🙂 i’m going for making him hate me so much he’d prefer shut the F up then mess with me.

          52. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            What you going to do? Spook Me with your keyboard?

          53. only converse with you

          54. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Yes precious.

          55. 🙂 yet you’re still chickening which is even more entertaining

          56. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I really pity you fool.

          57. a low life is not in a position to pitty anyone ,only to craul from under your rock , throw an insult and run back to cover, and you marbotz are a low life 🙂

          58. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            If a lowlife has pity on you………

          59. Sweetie you should pity your mom, considering you just told me it is sick at the vet.

          60. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Another petty freak with 0 intelligence.

          61. then it probably didn’t accept the nothing it is yet.
            in time….

          62. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Jews against Zionists fanatics. 1- 2. (anti-idiots)
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNUKajBuM1k

          63. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Zionist link..good Arab (not pali?) a Muslim Israeli Arab pro Zionist activist from Acre, now lives on a kibbutz in Galilee her three children volunteered serve in the IDF
            You can keep her, no honour there.

          64. first – it’s the truth,only brave people stand out against the collective lie
            second- judging by all the hate sites you post here ,you should be really really quiet dear lol,the trash you post is nothing but hate…hate from a hater and propaganda from a propaganda queen is nothing to take seriously

          65. I didn’t know Karl is a women’s name

          66. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            2 Prestige Jews, Harvard pro. and Microsoft researcher, endorse boycott of Israel & single state. Washington Post: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/prestige-microsoft-researcher?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign

          67. LOL, they only talk about DBS to make you ignorants feel like you have a purpose in life, it fqailed before it started anywhere but in the haters’s imagination…same like every time you try to be “original” lol. you are nothing and will remain nothing outside your little circle of hate.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X97sjzFh-a0

          68. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Great man!

          69. your christians brothers & sisters here loves Israel. they know it’s the only safe place for them in ME, a true democracy which protects it’s minorities.
            hind dear, i find it funny you try to sink your fangs in the body of your friend lolololol….too dumb to know better

          70. “your christians brothers & sisters here loves Israel. they know it’s the only safe place for them in ME”

            Doron, stop your racism

          71. can you state a safer place for christian minority in middle east?

          72. Let me ask hanan ashrawi

          73. This is what she (a Christian Palestinian) said ““Rubble.” Ashrawi said, remembering the police station across the street from her house that was leveled by rocket attacks. “I saw the police training headquarters and the prison totally destroyed.””

            Trust me doron, I was being nice

          74. please do.. and try to get a recent statment, not the 15 years ago when she served as Yasser’s pet christian 🙂

            http://www.clarionproject.org/news/bethlehem-monastery-fire-was-islamist-arson-says-church

          75. Btw, how many Christian Palestinians in the Knesset? Let alone FEMALE Christian politicians??

          76. wait a minute O, before you’re blaming Israel for not enough christian palistinian female in knesset , a little background:
            Arabs have the same freedom as jews to unite and form parties, elect their own representatives and decide who their MP’s will be. why there are less christians in positions in those parties is a question to the democratic arab parties, not the goverment. can you imagine what will be the reaction had israel tried to force a certain person up or down the packing order? we’d be called racist ,dictators blah blah blah.
            female arab in knesset (possibly christian) is Hanin Zuabi
            there are others male but i do not know their religion

          77. 5thDrawer Avatar

            On charts & graphs it may be shown that %age is roughly same by population of any democratic state. Roughly.

          78. I never said “safer” but have given examples of where Christians are safe in the ME.

          79. christians are still safe where there is still a strong goverment. the minute a gov falls, anachry takes over and the first to suffer are minorities.Egypt is a prime example- Mubaraq protected the copts, Mursi took over and copts were harrased all over. when Sisi took over ,the army protets them but if Sisi falls?

          80. why racicm? is it a rule of thumb that incase of disagreement ,my comments are by default racicist?
            it happens to be that I believe Israel is safer towards minorities, christians included, then any other ME nation.
            at worst, I am wrong but defenetly not racist.

          81. Ok good point. Sorry. I shouldn’t have said racist. But you are incorrect regarding the only safe place in the ME for Christians.

          82. that is something i can accept.

          83. Lol and I just finished saying you are honest a few hours ago. Now you are making me look like a liar. Perfect example is Christians in Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt.

          84. in eygpt the copts are migrating as fast as they can.

            Lebanon was formed for the christians, they are not a minority or were not one.

            i knew nothing about Jordan christians before your comment but some fast googleling produced this:

            http://www.opendoorsuk.org/persecution/worldwatch/jordan.php

            i still believe i didn’t lie 😉

          85. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Interesting that again it is persecution by relatively few individuals, not ‘sanctioned’ officially, although a blind eye is turned.
            “The state does not play an active role in this but maintains a permissive attitude towards the threats”

          86. “popular movments” are easier to gain popularity then “the man” stiring in the lead.
            to me it serves more as a warning then anyting else. much like anti-sematizm, it starts from the streets, cultivates in the house of god of chice and moves up from there.
            Hitler would never manage the Holocast if europe was not ready for it and future genocide of christians in ME would not happen if the man on the street did not find it acceptable (yep, i believe we’re witnessing the extermination of christian ME as we speak )

          87. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well yes, there’s sure enough ‘signs’. (even if ‘O’s can’t see them.;-)
            I think it also is becoming a case of – on the %age basis – less people being so fired up with Religions and more fired up with Reality. If we look at the Beirut streets, for example, it’s no longer masses of people saying: ‘Why has God put us in this sinking mess?’….
            Although they may largely know which animals need to be stuck on the Altars. ;-))
            The ONLY reason there isn’t a ‘Temple Of Atheist Worship’ on my street, along with ALL the others, is because they are still keeping a fairly low profile … admitted atheists get whacked around almost as often as ‘gays’ if they ‘come out’ and say it … or are just on the edge of being totally convinced by what all the ‘religious’ folks are doing.
            (examples being a forceful thing not to be argued with, they still keep quiet about it)

            (Oh .. wait … there are two spots which have been quiet … a children’s park and a bank.
            Hmmmm …better keep eye on those ….)

          88. You are not worth spitting on. I take comfort in knowing you will die a lonely old man. Xx

          89. oh please stop bibi!
            First you lot claim the mufti came up with the holocaust and when that didn’t work, you try peddling the ME is witnessing a holocaust of Christians. Now I will say you are a liar and deceitful.
            You really should take a leaf out of reasonable’s book. At least he is honest.
            As for the geriatric below, well it will always be below me.

          90. what is it that makes you upset in this comment?
            the facts that christians suffer or that there is a silent acceptance of it?
            those are the points made in my comment.

          91. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            We’re Used to it, don’t loose no sleep well be fine.

          92. i’m not worried about you personaly, we have an obligation to protect the ones who live among us not reaching out to lebanon and save you there.
            when push comes to shove , you might find your way down south anyways.
            don’t worry, we’ll protect you here if you do

          93. Like you protected that priest??!??????
            Are Israelis insane ?

          94. is that priest the sole christian is israel or is he one amongst thousands?
            picking an inccident and building around it a story that applies to all is…Hindy.

          95. No that were not the points you made.
            You tried saying that the Muslims are “exterminating” Christians.

            That is provocative and a lie. The only ones being “exterminated” in the ME are Arabs. And it is being done by everybody, including Israelis.

          96. christians are forced out of ME by Muslims O, I’m sorry but it’s the truth.
            in Israel christians are not only not extermonated but even voulentiring to the IDF cause of realazation that these days, only Israel remains safe heaven

          97. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Just Where he wants to be.

          98. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Christian genocide started with Khazar Zionists in WW1.
            Jabotinsky was the editor of Ataturk ‘Young Turks’ who promoted the Armenian and Assyrian Genocide.

            http://www.hellinon.net/NeesSelides/sephardic_jews.htm

          99. 5thDrawer Avatar

            When people don’t know their own history, how can they be expected to know the history of a world? Lebanon doesn’t want to teach it ‘ALL’ either, and thus teaches nothing.
            The Americans have recently ‘donated’ 10 million or so, to theoretically ‘educate’ children to grade 9 in Lebanon. WHERE is a book which will educate them?

          100. america should educate their own first.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ3RrqBqk14

          101. don’t confuse people with shameless lies. actually , you fool no one no more :)) face exposed

          102. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It looks better than your ass … ;-))

          103. marginaly 🙂

          104. You disgusting spineless white supremacist son of a whore

          105. No wonder your wife committed suicide.

          106. You should know that 5th just compared you to doron’s ass.
            I’m honestly not attacking you but showing you how you can’t trust the geriatric

          107. I’ve screenshot the conversation. Just in case

          108. yep, i believe we’re witnessing the extermination of christian ME as we speak, BY ISRAEL!

          109. i disagree completly

          110. And you have that right.
            I believe you would have made hitter proud

          111. again, disagree completly.

          112. And again you have that right.
            You see anyone can make provocative statements. It’s not nice is it?

          113. as long as he/she can back it up with proofs

          114. Doron, I just finished watching this debate. Sorry to say but your guy looks like a retard. Enjoy the show.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UrQRYrpp2cI

          115. And I asked for said proof of you but I’m still waiting. And waiting

          116. again apologize- proof for what? refresh my memory please

          117. “in eygpt the copts are migrating as fast as they can.”
            Prove it!!

          118. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            That’s how you treat a Coptic priest in Jerusalem?
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzMSmPwiVyU

          119. 🙂 propaganda queen and proffesional whinner, answer me this:
            1. why was the road blocked
            2. since they stoped everyone , why do you point only to the priest?
            3. you never really answered me, would you send your little boy to myrter for palistine or are you violance supporter only when it comes to stranger’s blood?

          120. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            🙂 propagandahhh..

            You look as stupid as you are go back to murderer Rabbi Kahane’s blog.
            Here’s is another of the same small frail monk being brutalized..

            Israeli Police Brutally Attacks Old Coptic Christian Priest on a Jerusalem Street on Easter

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIy8TcPkjro

          121. who is the dumb here? the one who points to a wide trend or a has been, trying desperatly to hold to slogens of past? :))))

          122. I only watched hind’s video after I read your comment.
            Are you fucking trying to justify the maltreatment of that priest by your Jewish goons!!????

          123. no but do you know why he was stoped? neither do I.
            could she post other videos? probably no cause she would if she could.
            being a Hind is to provoc strong emotions and to disapear. saves the counter interigation which she always failed (on the rare ocassions when she did try to defend).
            bottom line, i’m not defending blindly, I ask the accuser questions which she can not answer.

          124. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Damn ‘Al/Quds’ guys have cell cams everywhere …. ;-))

          125. “hind dear, i find it funny you try to sink your fangs in the body of your friend lolololol”

            Really? So Jews are friends of Christians??
            Didn’t you guys kill Jesus?

          126. 🙂 i never knew jesus not to mention killed him.
            every once in a while,a Christian decided to be generous towards me and let me know they “forgive” me for my part in a 2000 years old event..when it happens ,they can hear me laugh from here to the Vatican.
            and it’s true- the only nation which protects Christians (exept Lebanon, which was formed as a state for christian). anyother place, they are chased away or prosecuted.
            dear hind over here advocating hate against the only people who might save her if she was truly ME resident and not a keyboard preacher

          127. “every once in a while,a Christian decided to be generous towards me and let me know they “forgive” me for my part in a 2000 years old ”

            Omfg you just made my LOLLLL
            That is the second time in one day on this s site. I’m serious that I laughed out loud. Xx

          128. Ok, to the religious I apologise!
            I will not say omfg in future, I will just say omg.

          129. 5thDrawer Avatar

            As long as you keep the ‘my’ in there, Satan will be pleased.

          130. “a true democracy which protects it’s minorities. ”

            BS!!!!

          131. not really,
            the day when an israeli arab will be different in the eyes of law then a jew, then you might be true.
            be it christian, muslim, druze or what have you

          132. the writer is an anti -israeli 🙂 and i’m smiling cause i can imagine your expression as you read it.
            i went through some of his articles, could not find anything close to impartialship in it.
            the first and only objection i have ,and one that will never change, is that i don’t see any racizm or discrimination. i live in a mixed city, work with arabs ,eat with arabs ,shit with arabs. no article and no link would make me question my own expiriance.

            now…
            any individual can sue in court what he believe he deserve if he feels injustice. and before you jump with “yeah right” it’s an arab judge that threw the president in the jail.
            second, some clarifications for out of context quotations that just scream propaganda:

            another so-called centrist, Yair Lapid, when the Yesh Atid chair said he would “not join a blocking majority with Haneen Zoabis.”-
            no one would sit with her, an Israeli MP which declairs she does not believe in the state is ,IMO and many other, is a trator and should be in prison.mind you, Lapid was not talking about the party only the individual.
            At Maui Marmara, she lied to the press about us refusing to accept injured passangers, luckily for us, she was caught on tape refusing on behaf of the passenger to let IDF medics treat them.
            The organiser of the initiative commented: “Wherever there are Arab villages, there is fraud.” The ‘monitors’ were accompanied by “an armed group.”- all ballots are monitored by ALL fractions of parties inorder to prevent cheating and when there are chances of violance (AND THERE ARE!)paid security personal is in all voting stations including jewish so it’s another biased comment designed to paint a picture that isnt there.

            “Even before the election, Moshe Kahlon of ‘centrist’ party Kulanu said that he “would not sit on a government that relied on the Arabs.””- again, an attempt to picture a racict comment but look at it in context- Kahalon is a likud member who broke free inorder to advance social agenda first- picturing him as centralist is an intentional mistake (especialy from someone who prides himself of beeing an israel expert). not in a million years would a right wing party bring itself to relay on arab vote to advance laws.- btw- it works the other way around- lft wing parties do not accept right wings to coalition- Is that Racist as well?

            an arab israeli has the same rights as a jewish israeli, he has the same obligations such as paying taxes and obeying the law.

          133. “shit with arabs”

            Hello! Too much information!!

          134. :))))
            it does smell the same

          135. man-o-war Avatar

            “the first and only objection i have ,and one that will never change, is that i don’t see any racizm or discrimination. i live in a mixed city, work with arabs ,eat with arabs ,shit with arabs. no article and no link would make me question my own expiriance.”

            I understand what you mean, but this in no way means there isn’t racism or discrimination in Israel.

            I also knew that you would have an objection to either the source or the writer of the article. Do you expect someone that is anti-Palestinian to write an article that calls out Israel on their BS? I just don’t understand, every article or source critical of Israel you want to disregard as non-sense.

            Please explain why you think the author Ben White is anti-Israel? Is it because he takes a pro-Palestinian stand?

          136. because he is takinig an unwavering anti israeli position.
            in my book, whn someone finds one “guilty” to everything that happend, then this guy, by default, is mistaken atleast some of the time. and till i sort it out, by default, i treat it all as unverified.
            I act this way any time i try to get to the bottom of a problem and i advise everybody to do the same. on worst case , i can always apologize if i’m wrong.

          137. man-o-war Avatar

            An example of an explicit discriminatory law is the “Law of Return” which grants every Jew, wherever he or she resides, automatic Israeli citizenship if desired, at the expense of refugees and stateless persons who have lived on the land for generations.

          138. well..it is countered by the mass deportation of jews from all the arab world so…i can’t see how you as arab dare to complain?
            you kicked us all out, we found a new home amongst our own people. the historic guilt lays on your shoulders…would you accept jews back to their coresponding countries? give us our wealth back? i didn’t think so

          139. man-o-war Avatar

            “you kicked us all out, we found a new home amongst our own people. the historic guilt lays on your shoulders.” Are you really going to sit here and lie about this? You know this isn’t true, there were many factors that caused the mass exodus of Jews from Arab countries. I’m sure you’ve heard of push and pull factors.

            “You kicked us ALL out”, any more half truths you want to throw my way?

          140. again..say what you want, deny as you wish . nothing will change the past.
            My grand parents arrived here with one suitcase and a month old baby.
            my father’s family were forced to sign they give up all their property for a passport so they can leave.
            my dear man-o . we don’t go and cry and whine about the big bad evil arabs that kiked us out of our accestoral homes but this “nakba” happend to us.
            the difference is that while arabs turned their backs on arabs , jews stuck together and overcome it.
            what disgust me the most is that it’s the same people who turned their backs on their brothers, pretend to care for them yet refuse to really help them through out the years

          141. man-o-war Avatar

            Doron,
            If you haven’t figured out yet I’m not against the state of Israel existing, but I’m against the denial of Palestinian rights to their land. They can either exist as one state or two states, but Palestinians aren’t going anywhere.

            I understand your family got kicked out of Iraq and I’m sorry that happened to them. The same has and is happening to the Palestinian, I’m sorry you can’t see that.

            Now, just because it happened to your family and hundreds of others doesn’t mean they were “All kicked out”. Some left Arab countries because they chose to! My grandfather from my Shi’ite side of the family was a captain in the Lebanese police force ages ago and was tasked with policing and protecting the Jewish quarters in Beirut, they loved him and he loved them. It was a vibrant community. They left after the state of Israel was created, not forced out. So, please stop with the half truth.

          142. man-o, i remember your words, you are the one here that understood israel is a home to me, i don’t mistake you for a hater.
            **now that you call my words half truth instead of a lie- it’s an improvement already ;)**
            my question was (ok, it was not the question but it sure burns in my vains now): why did arabs not accept their refugee brothers while the jews did? everywhere in the post WWII world there were mass population migrations, not only arabs and jews and not only ME so why is it that out of the tens of millions refugies of the time- the only ones who were constantly rejected and deprived of their chance to integrate? had palis refugees been treated as all other refugees and integrated we could have peace today, right?
            a pali refugee decended in Lebanon could visit his former vilage here and i would go and visit bagdad where my grandfather was born.
            what reason do arab states provide for this? the only reason I can think of is -to keep the war running.

          143. So the Arabs want to keep the war going, even though that donkey abdullah from Saudi Arabia offered Israel full recognition in exchange for peace? And let me guess, Israel wants peace and of course they can’t find anyone on the other side that wants peace.
            And in the meantime, Israel will settle on more land. It’s the only country within the last 50 years that keeps growing. That alone suggests Israel is land hungry and deceptive.
            Stop defending what you supposedly don’t stand for.

          144. exactly what i say.

            just to make it clearer- the saudi “offer” was nothing new- a complete withdrawl including east jerusalem & a “just settlement” of the palistinian refugees (right of return). later is and will be always answered with a defenent NO. supprisingly, the palis rejected the exact same offer only with no right for a refugee to emigrat to israel and with Jerusalem’s status to be decided later .they rejected it! i would assume soimeone who has nothing and offered a house and clothing not to be so concerned about the condition of the yard but this is exactly what the palis did- rejected a state cause they want to force the state of israel to take people in :)) the palis , in their mind, see us as inferiors to them and think they can order us around :))))
            palis don’t want negotiation, they want to win , militry or diplomaticly. naturally they lose so naturaly they are more frustrated and want to win even more which naturaly translates to bigger defeats and naturaly….

            you get the point.

          145. “12 Recommend
            “I write this book to tell the American people, and especially the American Jews, that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews; and that, to buy time to confiscate ever more Arab lands, Jews on numerous occasions rejected genuine peace initiatives from their Arab neighbors. I write about what the first prime minister of Israel called ‘cruel Zionism.’ I write about it because I was a part of it.”
            Iraqi-born Jewish journalist, Naeim Gilad”

          146. man-o-war Avatar

            “why did arabs not accept their refugee brothers while the jews did?” I’m sorry Doron, but this is very naive. You are making one huge assumption that all Arabs are the same. Arabs usually is a distinction made for a people that speak Arabic. However, Arabs are very different culturally and religiously from one country to the next. We have Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs, Sunni Arabs, Shi’ite Arabs, Druze Arabs, Catholic Arabs, and so on. Just in Lebanon you have 14 or so different religions practiced.

            Do you also think all Spanish people are the same? Just because a person in Cuba speaks Spanish doesn’t mean they would be comfortable living in Peru for example.

            You can’t compare the Jewish people to Arabs. You’ve said it yourself before, Jews believe themselves to be a race and a religion. They weren’t being “forced” to go to a foreign land, but rather a land they’ve prayed to return to for thousands of years. A land that shares their religion and culture. Way more in common with each other than a Palestinian and an Iraqi.

            I would like to add that I don’t approve the treatment of Palestinians in Arab countries where they live in refugee camps and are kept from assimilating into society.

            I think there should be one state for the Jewish people and the Palestinian people. I know this is a very unpopular idea with the Jewish people, because they fear losing the countries Jewish Identity. I think its a ridiculous fear and one of the reasons why I don’t think Israel can claim to be a democracy.

          147. “I understand your family got kicked out of Iraq ”

            No they weren’t kicked out according to Naeim “Giladi wrote that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel. To force them to leave, Zionist Jews killed Jews.”

            Google Naeim Giladi.

          148. man-o-war Avatar

            Doron is claiming his family was, I can’t prove they weren’t. So, I’ll take his word for it. He does say that they had to sign over property to get a passport, that kind of sounds like they wanted them to stay and not move to the newly created state of Israel. I’m in no place to deny what happened to his family.

          149. The only one denying is you!

            “Last month, Israeli historian professor Yigal Bin-Nun (Bar-Ilan University), in a study exposed Zionist lies about Jewish exodus from Morocco. Based on his study of Moroccan Jewish community, Bin-Nun has claimed that Mossad, the national intelligence agency of Israel, was behind the whole operation wherein about 160,000 Moroccan Jews left Morocco for the Zionist occupied Palestine.”

            http://rehmat1.com/2013/11/13/why-jews-left-morocco/

          150. “we don’t go and cry and whine about the big bad evil arabs ”

            LOL as you cry and whine.

          151. Common O, I expect more intergrity from you.
            comparing the suffering both parties suffered is not the same as whining and crying.
            if any, it serves to highlight a point to the palis: everybody suffered just as you did and many suffered way worst then you, yet everybody went on with their lives but you.everybody built themselves a new but you.
            so you’d better get your act together put the past behind and start working for a better future where you are now.
            the expeling of the jews Nasser promised you 60 years ago simply not going to happen and if you have any complains ,go visit Nasser’s grave for explanations.

          152. “you kicked us all out”

            That is a fabrication!! Stop trying to rewrite history!

            “Zionist propagandists still maintain that the bombs in Iraq were set off by anti-Jewish Iraqis who wanted Jews out of their country. The terrible truth is that the grenades that killed and maimed Iraqi Jews and damaged their property were thrown by Zionist Jews.””

            http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/is-it-an-israeli-false-flag-again.html

            “By way of deception is, after all, the Mossad’s motto.”

          153. :)))
            the only one half biased is the telegraph and that article is 9 years old.
            we should compare how we advanced in 10 years and how backwards ALL arab socaities went in those 10 years and then ask the question- which citizenship is better for an arab? an israeli or Pali,Syrian/Lebanies/Iraqi/Egyptian Iraqi,Iraninan etc.
            bottom line, after going through all that Israel hatters has to throw at it still, Israeli arabs refuse to become part of the PA or any other
            could it be Israel provides better living?

          154. “could it be Israel provides better living?”

            Finish the question.

            could it be Israel provides better living conditions than the occupation it forces on Palestine?

          155. it was more like , does israel better living then anywhere in ME and the answer is yes. defenetly yes.

          156. “i went through some of his articles, could not find anything close to impartialship in it.”

            lol us that like your evangelical link!?

          157. i think it’s only fair. if I’m forced to defend from articles in sites biased against israel, i’ll quote from sites biased against arabs.
            or do you think the privilage to annoy and provocation is something only arabs entitled to?

          158. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            … and when you start by :))) you look stupid and arrogant
            “i live in a mixed city, work with arabs ,eat with arabs ,shit with arabs. no article and no link would make me question my own expiriance.”

            now…

          159. mybe i’ll explain it again dear..i apologize for assuming you can understand it by yourself..i’m sorry :)))
            it takes more then a biased paper written for biased people to make me question reality. i know it’s more then enough for you but not good enough for me 😉

          160. the Arab may have the same obligations but certainly isn’t given the same privileges. You can spin it whichever way you want but EXPERTS in discrimination and racism don’t agree with you.

          161. yet,only exprerts in discriminations and racism don’t agree me

          162. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Shas MK blames Ariel, Hotovely for ‘bloodbath’

            http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/202506#.Vi-8INIve8q

          163. Excellent article. Thanks. Now I need to read hind’s link.

            And if doron can’t see the racism and discrimination then either he has his head buried in the sand or is dishonest.
            I wish I could live in ignorance, it would make life so much easier

          164. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I’m not your dear..you look as stupid as you are go back to your murderer Rabbi Kahane’s blog. Here’s is another of the same frail monk being brutalized..

            Israeli Police Brutally Attacks Old Coptic Christian Priest on a Jerusalem Street on Easter
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIy8TcPkjro

          165. Oh dear, how predictible little snake you become, on the one hand we have a wide trend among israeli proud christians, on the other hand we have an isolated inccident, regarding one individual
            now boys and girls, had you been a retard, propaganda queen,pathological lier which can not understand reality, who would you go with? the wide public or the one inccident?

          166. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “hind dear”; is to sink your fangs(?)..doremifasolasido

            “your christians brothers & sisters here loves Israel. they know it’s the only safe place for them in ME, a true democracy which protects it’s minorities.”
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lfCqisw8uQ

          167. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11321651/Meet-the-Arab-Christians-who-want-to-fight-for-Israel.html

            the locals here know the truth on the ground. you can’t fool them with propaganda videos.
            they are not as confused as you dear 😉

          168. LOLLLLL
            I love your reply. :))))

          169. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Possibly, until then petty person it’s a pity.

          170. in time marboltz, in time you’ll learn.

          171. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I’m willing.

          172. thats a start

          173. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Don’t bring your Kahani terorists with you

          174. keep PLO,HAMAS,Islamic Jihad,HA terror gangs at bay and i will not have to bring none ;)you are scared of them aren’t you? lol

          175. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            so your in positon only to craul (crawl) from under your rock and come her

          176. no but it’s reasuring to know you havent changed a bit, still trying to put words in people’s mouth and then trial them for it :)))))

          177. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I will eventually shut up and you will eventually realise that you were so close but so far. Anyway hopefully there is enough time for your vision to clear up before it’s lights out.

          178. and you’re the one who berated me for not being obvious enough with my words :))
            speak clearly or shut up ,unless you believe you deserve better then me and in that case i’d happily run your arrugat ass to the ground.

          179. And apologize??
            My ballz said it is “never wrong”, so you are correct that it will never apologize.

          180. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Did anyone consider that Bibi might be ‘Bipolar’ .. Like Jean Claude Van Damme, or Carrie Fisher … hmmmm … sort of a ‘Manic Depressive’ thing … Personality Disorder … Is ANYONE assessing ‘The Tops’ ?? We had a Prime Minister who talked to the Ghost of his long-deceased mother … although, most considered him fairly good. ;-))

          181. “I often think ‘Birds OF a Feather, Fly Together.’”

            Come up with your own lines old man. I used that hours before you and have used it a number of times.

          182. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Flock together imbecile pig head.

          183. Lol you dumb fuck! Look carefully and you will notice that I was quoting 5th. Dumb fuck!
            But even then, what 5th said is the same as flock.

            Flock: a number of birds of one kind feeding, resting, or travelling together.

            Go get an education you ignorant racist homophobic religious bigot. You honestly sound like “trailer trash”

          184. 5thDrawer Avatar

            She didn’t notice they WERE my own lines. :-)))

          185. it’s a possiblility, personally i think he is a weak weak man who talks tough inorder to rally voters.

          186. Like every other scumbag called a politician.
            I will say this again, EVERY politician is scum

          187. “Did anyone consider that Bibi might be ‘Bipolar”

            Did you consider daft mare is, not “might”, insane??

          188. defenetly a part of the problem Reasonableman, just not as big as Bibi protray him .

            there is a difference between what you wrote here and the truth 😉

            http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/hitlers-mufti

          189. I totally agree with you.

          190. According to doron’s logic, Israel is responsible for Syrians being slaughtered.
            Coz nutty met spewtin.

      3. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        It’s simple to disprove an historically inaccurate claim. Hitler had already devised the final solution and had already killed several hundred thousand Jews before the meeting with the mufti of Jerusalem ever took place..(in fact one million and a half).

        On 3 March 1941 Hitler himself characterised the coming war as follows:

        ‘This coming campaign is more than a fight of weapons; it is also a showdown between to worldviews. To end this war, it does not suffice to defeat enemy armies. The Judeo-Bolshevist intelligentsia, hitherto the suppressor of the People, must be conquered.’

        Consequently, there was no room for pity with neither the Soviet Jews or with the civil population in general. The Soviet Union was being invaded in order to secure for the Greater German Reich the necessary Lebensraum (‘living space’) and thus its eternal existence. Thus, there were several motives for invading the Soviet Union: “The Danish Centre for Holocaust and Genocide studies”

  3. Dubium sapientiae initium Avatar
    Dubium sapientiae initium

    “Palestinian cleric inspired Holocaust”, it is a dangerous historical distortion that.
    Netanyahu is an idiot.

  4. Leborigine Avatar
    Leborigine

    Idiot!

  5. Desperation and hysteria. Obviously what is happening there now was something his arrogance and ignorance never allowed him to see.

  6. 5thDrawer Avatar

    Started ANOTHER long historical debate about ‘what happened when’. Like they needed another.

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      The Transfer Agreement

      “The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Haavara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. /32″

      “The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the Ha’avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million pounds or 139.57 million German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement. /41”

      “Conclusion

      In spite of the basic hostility between the Hitler regime and international Jewry, for several years Jewish Zionist and German National Socialist interests coincided. In collaborating with the Zionists for a mutually desirable and humane solution to a complex problem, the Third Reich was willing to make foreign exchange sacrifices, impair relations with Britain and anger the Arabs. Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler’s Germany”

      (Why was the Mufti so worried..Netanyahu forgot?)

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        It wasn’t called ‘The Dirty Thirties’ only because of dust storms and drought.
        ‘That world’ was in turmoil before WWI, and one guy being assassinated in a street was only an excuse to begin it. Various countries picked their ‘sides’ to ally with. And it proved to be a Dirty War for combatants. It never really ended, because Germany was robbed right away for ‘War Reparations’ – and that gave the chance for Hitler to rise. Germans were literally starving to death.
        Not unlike people on the Prairies in North America. And after a ‘classic’ stock market boondoggle, ‘making deals’ was a way to get income. And Hitler had a ‘plan’ – he wasn’t entirely stupid.
        (It was my Geography teacher who gave this economic lesson – not the History teacher. They probably don’t do classes that way any more … who knows? It was a simple explanation.)
        Basically, Hitler borrows Money – Promises to ‘pay back’. The money builds a whistle-factory, and they make whistles. When it comes time to repay the loan, Hitler says: ‘I don’t have $ – But I have whistles. That’s what I got. Take it or leave it.’ They take it, and flog German Whistles to get their money back – maybe make a profit. Hitler says: ‘I need another loan.’ This time he gets more … builds one factory for, say, kettles … and one for airplanes. Pay-back is: ‘I have whistles and kettles. Take it or leave it.’ They DO!! And loan more out – making a profit too.
        You see how this works. (Russia did too – much later.)
        And ‘war-machine’ factories were built along with excellent metal toys.
        Germans were back to work, had food on a table, and Loved Adolph.
        With the exception of the labourer and farmer in ‘the west’ (still a drought), people make money. Hollywood roars with ‘new tech’. Hitler does ‘speaking tours’, and while Socialists are dumped on, Hitler buddies with Stalin the Communist – for a short dance. All is ‘nice’, until the really dirty stuff begins to show. And in a relatively short time, the war is ON again. They have to call it #2.
        Let’s assume a LOT of people made money selling whistles and toys, etc.
        It wasn’t the guy dragging the vacuum-cleaner-demo-bag from door to door.
        Joining an army was a viable way for a farmer to get enough money to feed the kids, too.

        For many years after the war, Stalin still relied on Hitler’s methods to ‘get money’ from the people they loved to hate – until they simply said: ‘Ohhh, Russia needs more $ to pay you back. Please send.’ Reason? Russian kettles and whistles (like their tanks) didn’t live long. ;-)))
        (Greeks tried similar things … but couldn’t figure it out.)
        Simple stuff, really … and a lot of the ‘lower classes’ suffered still – but who cared?
        Folks like ‘Bonnie&Clyde’ became heroes of the working poor – they understood.

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          Height of audacity

          After accusing Palestinians committed the Holocaust Netanyahu meets German foreign Minister.

          “During a 2015 debate about Germany’s recognition of the Armenian Genocide on the occasion of its centenuary, Steinmeier was the politician most reluctant to it, calling it relativization of the Holocaust. He was widely criticized for his position,[96][97] as even Israel’s president Reuven Rivlin recognizes the Armenian genocide and links it with the Holocaust”

          Netanyahu all smiles relaxes among friends..

          https://www.facebook.com/IsraeliPM/videos/1179296512085092/

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          Allies “partisan” lessons…:) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1d93a801071abb55c2f96222a98e976778ebc9d9a5d168fe69f18f5435f05a58.jpg

          “Palestine, Immigration and Ha’avara” dealt with the subject of Zionist collaboration with the Nazi SS Harvara was a joint Zionist-Nazi Project.-

          http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/07/Nazi_Zionism.html

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hind. With no clear grasp of ‘western thought’, I’d still say the Mufti was worried about what the German War Machine could do to him … and he was sure willing to go along with any proposition which also may have favoured his own thoughts.

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            BUT! For Bib to publicly blame the Mufti for the Holocaust is another mater.. now Bib followers will justify more attacks on Palestinians.

          3. Sweetie, why are you defending a Sunni? You have shown nothing but pure hatred for Sunnis, which makes me conclude that you only use the mufti to hide behind while you spew hatred against Jews. Typical religious bigot.
            I bet most Palestinians would have nothing to do with you and your kind.

          4. If you are an example of “western thought” then who could blame him.

          5. Dubium sapientiae initium Avatar
            Dubium sapientiae initium

            Naturally you pickup the well known Holocaust denier David John Cawdell Irving as a trustworthy source……

          6. You are another that would make hitler proud

          7. He was jailed for denying the holocaust.
            WTF!!
            What happened to freedom of speech!!??

          8. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Freedom of speech some people call it bigotry? And it’s illegal? Butt trying to get a guy pregnant is ok.

          9. Mabz don’t twist it into something else.
            Two (or more, I’m thinking orgy now) consenting adults doing whatever the fuck they want behind closed doors is not anyone’s business.

          10. And wtf are you doing up at this hour? I thought I was the only majnouni

          11. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I miss u

          12. Understandable:P
            Yalla come to the city and we can have coffee

          13. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            If I come down I won’t be having coffee

          14. Air laka hil 3un teezee 😛
            Xx

          15. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Done.

          16. Did you really understand my bad Arabic?

          17. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Multi lingual I understand good and bad. But not French I don’t think it’s a man’s language.

          18. And bisexual? 😛

          19. I even learnt how to make mjudarra today. Hungry?

          20. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Niiiiiiiice, but it gives me heart burn lately.

          21. Wlek you have a heart!??
            😛

          22. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            It’s really got nothing to do with my heart but it describes it well.

          23. How about mloukhiya?

          24. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            That’s an art.

          25. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Arabs should have cooking competitions they would be the superpowers, especially the Lebanese.

          26. That I fully agree with you. And I would win 😛
            But then you would have Israelis claiming it’s theirs.

          27. Hannibal Avatar

            Lebanese are not Arabs.

          28. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Your right but it’s charitable to feel for them.

          29. Shu did you wake up on the wrong side of your boyfriend? 😛

          30. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I got 3hrs sleep, not ready for full contact.

          31. Toughen up soldier.

          32. Lol no matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn’t make it true. And you keep looking like a racist. Lmfao

          33. Next time I make it, you are invited. But I can’t promise I won’t poison you 😛

          34. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            My name is not, oh well I’ll leave him alone time to hit the sack.

          35. Lol I know exactly who you are talking about. Ya 3uqroot xx

          36. Is mrs palmers joining you in the sack? 😛

          37. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Bibi is a Holocaust denier also, he blame Palestinians..talk to your friends.

          38. LOLLLLLLLL
            good one!

            Don’t get excited, I still don’t like you. But that was a brilliant comeback. Better than mine even.

          39. And WOW your grammar improved overnight.
            Or was it all just a ploy?

          40. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Thes were Jews replying..

            “We asked who could identify this remarkable two-faced medallion, and received a score of replies:”

          41. Wtf is that coin?

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Palestine, Immigration and Ha’avara” dealt with the subject of Zionist collaboration with the Nazi SS Harvara was a joint Zionist-Nazi Project.- (that worried the Mufti)

            “The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Haavara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization”

            http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

          43. Sorry but this is too much to understand at this hour for me.
            I honestly appreciate you trying to educate me and I promise I will read the link tomorrow.
            And thank you for replying.
            For now good night or day. X

          44. Ok just finished reading it.
            Doron (or any other Jew on here), care to refute the claim your forefathers worked hand in hand with hitler!!??

            But, I also have to add that the above doesn’t explain why the boat, “SS St Louis”, didn’t sail to Palestine after it was refused by other countries.

            http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27373131

          45. And where are those falsifiers of history, that claim there was no Palestine!!??

            ” The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official goodwill, go with them.”/10 Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: /11”

          46. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People.
            By the Rt. Hon. Winston S. Churchill.

            “It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical.”

            http://www.mosaisk.com/revolution/Winston-Churchill-Zionism-Versus-Bolshevism.php

  7. Hind Abyad Avatar
    Hind Abyad

    “PM Netanyahu’s Speech at the 37th Zionist Congress”
    20/10/2015

    http://www.pmo.gov.il/English/MediaCenter/Speeches/Pages/speechcongress201015.aspx

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      He loves the tourists ….

      1. Ambiguity is your forte. Grow a set already

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Sorry you need to think on it … I’m out to the SUNSHINE. :-)))

  8. Israeli Jew shoots another Israeli Jew.

    “”I wanted to cover the body in a black bag [reserved for alleged attackers],” he said. “After I was asked to take care of the body I saw that he was a Jew, and that it was mistake to speak of a terrorist. I immediately notified the police and we switched to a white ZAKA body bag.””

    But doron says Israelis are practicing apartheid And are not racist. What a sick twisted country!

    1. * are NOT practicing.

  9. man-o-war Avatar

    An Israeli professor of history at Ben-Gurion University said today he has no idea where bibi came up with this nonsense. He also stated that he has no idea what purpose it serves. I think the purpose was to try and equate Palestinians with the Nazis, to drum up more sympathy for Israel. It’s his disgusting attempt at justifying the ongoing occupation and persecution of the Palestinians. He wants the world to believe that the Palestinians have only one goal in mind, the extermination of Jews.

  10. What a f#cking evil terrorist.

  11. Tiffani Drew Avatar
    Tiffani Drew

    The Mufti wasn’t intelligent enough to conceive such a brilliant notion.

    1. How did you come to that conclusion?
      Coz he was Arab or Muslim? Or both?

      1. Tiffani Drew Avatar
        Tiffani Drew

        Because he didn’t think about it-regardless of his race colour or creed.

        1. So you think the holocaust was a “brilliant” idea!!??

          Go loll yourself you disgusting scum

          1. Loll = kill

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