Women not equal to men, says Turkish president Erdogan

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erdogan and womenTurkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said women are not equal to men and accused feminists of not understanding the special status that Islam attributes to mothers.

Addressing a meeting in Istanbul on women and justice, Mr Erdogan said men and women are created differently, that women cannot be expected to undertake the same work as men, and that mothers enjoy a high position that only they can reach.

“You cannot put women and men on an equal footing. It is against nature. They were created differently. Their nature is different. Their constitution is different,” Mr Erdogan said.

“Motherhood is the highest position. You cannot explain this to feminists. They don’t accept motherhood. They have no such concern,” he said.

Lawyer and women’s rights activist Hulya Gulbahar said Mr Erdogan’s comments were in violation of Turkey’s constitution, Turkish laws and international conventions on gender equality and did not help efforts to stem high incidences of violence against women in Turkey.

Ms Gulbahar said: “Such comments by state officials which disregard equality between men and women play an important role in the rise of violence against women.

Mr Erdogan, a devout Muslim, often courts controversy with divisive public comments.

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39 responses to “Women not equal to men, says Turkish president Erdogan”

  1. Reasonableman Avatar
    Reasonableman

    He complained that in previous decades in Turkey women in Anatolian villages had done the back-breaking work while their menfolk idled away the time.

    “Wasn’t it the case in Anatolia? Our poor mothers suffered immensely and got hunchbacks while the men were playing cards and rolling dice at teahouses,” he said.

    “What women need is to be able to be equivalent, rather than equal. Because equality turns the victim into an oppressor and vice versa.”

    He recalled: “I would kiss my mother’s feet because they smelled of paradise. She would glance coyly and cry sometimes.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      There’s a lot of working Mothers now saying ‘Kiss my ASS Erdo’.
      But he says a Mother is not a woman .. because then she becomes more than equal to other women?
      And he thinks ‘feminists’ are the same as ‘lesbians’, I guess … someone should tell him they are Mothers too – in societies which have attempted to equalize their rights to take care of themselves with jobs they CAN perform well, given the chance.
      Wonder what he’s really thinking when he has to talk to Angela Merkel in Germany – the former research scientist … or Hillary Clinton – the first female partner at Rose Law Firm …

      Wonder what THEY will be thinking of him …. hehehehehe …
      (Damn idiot ‘oppressor’ with a foot-fetish ..;-))

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Im sure he would reply that being an academic is very different to being a labourer.
        Besides that he was reffering to anotolia days when women were labouring and men were kicking back with the boys. (Hmmm kind of like this generation women work, men soak unemployment income)

        Ayesha (ra) mother of believers was an academic one(of many) of the greatest scholars who until now people still read, learn, memorise and implement her narrations.

  2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
    Maborlz Ez-Hari

    I agree wholeheartedly with his remarks, we are not equal however women do have the most important role to play in the daily lives of almost every person on the planet. His remarks are not offensive and in no way is he saying that women are second class. Violence against woman is not to be tolerated and they are due a certain level of respect which is higher than one would give to a male, this is more chivalrous than sexist. Now having said this there are Definately moments when a womens trap needs to be closed, when she needs to dissapear, and where she needs to understand that some particular situations require a males presence and decision making. It is not sexist its just realistic. The responsibilities of a male to support his wife and family is paramount to a healthy community and there is no question that we are different.

    1. Anti ISIS Avatar

      Hind’s going to kick your ass Mab, :-))

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Yalateeeeeef, im finished….:(

        1. Anti ISIS Avatar

          LOL. I suggest you run for cover.

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You cant hide from furious females they find you, its like watching a horror movie.

      2. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        What “particular situation” can’t this lady take care of, including kicking both you and Mab’s asses?

        1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Thats a lady?

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            ask her that question if you dare

          2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I leave that question unanswered:))))))))

    2. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      You’re such a caveman
      Of course men and women are different anatomically but so are men and men, and women and women.
      When speaking of equality among genders civilized people mean there are no differences in rights and ambitions. No social or civil responsibilities are exclusive to men or women, each can choose to attain whatever dream they wish…
      Bunch of dawa3esh you and Erdogan

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        So the team that hit osama bin lafden was a mix of female and male commandos? Your a policeman and you been called to a situation wheres there is a riot you would be happy having to protect a female aswell as yourself?, yeah im a caveman and some things dont change.

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          As I said before, women can be Seals, anti-riot police and whatever they want.
          They’re presidents, CEOs, astronauts, play all kinds of sports and are fighting alongside men in wars and taking all kinds of jobs around the world.
          The question of gender equality again is not about if a women can do it or not, is that women are ALLOWED to do whatever they want or not.
          What Erdogan and you said is ridiculous and from a different age

    3. Reasonableman Avatar
      Reasonableman

      This would not be a headline if it wasn’t for insecurity.

    4. yes..they have no ball.he he he.

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Isnt it Kah Kah kah?

        1. no..he he he is better.

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            El mouhum its happy.

  3. Super-habib Avatar
    Super-habib

    Typical Muslim/eastern “chivalry” coming from this hmar’s mouth. Exalt the women to such a high status with the same empty rhetoric of “motherhood” and “women’s roles”, that all translates to “stay in the kitchen and never talk back”.

    1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
      Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Whats wrong with that? Its berfect!

      1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
        Maborlz Ez-Hari

        I’ll bet it was a guy who invented the washing machine, dishwasher, microwave, disposable nappies, and water out of a tap. Ouffffft what more do they want?

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          Now you’re doubting their intelligence?
          Do you think your wife, mother, sister or daughter are stupider than you are just because they were born females?
          You truly are from a different century…

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            No they not stupider if that word exists? They are actually very intelligent cos they ignore a lot of what i have to say. Unlike you Mr.Mek

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Feminine instinct….

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar

          You must have met the witches of Salem.. i am a woman and i hate their blablathering, men and women can be stubid or intelligent, you can’t but them all in same bot like Erdog

          1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Thats why you the coolest most intelligent and informed person on this blog………after me ofcourse……….;)

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar

            After you of course.. men need women approval :))

          3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Looooooool ofcourse……. you got me.

      2. Hind Abyad Avatar

        I recall first thing you told me when i came here; “your blaze is in the kitchen”…iiieeehhh i would elobe without permission.

        1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Looooooooooooool, cant we have a laugh about it with out taking everything so seriously . We all know everything I say is spot on im not gloating but seriously some of these guys are worse than females….i wont mention names aye mek……… doron. ………. .

          1. funny…you didn’t answer my last comments in a serious manner, some you didn’t answer at all.
            we can say you answer seriously and spot on as long as it fit your belief system, once you find yourself on unfamiliar ground you resort to insults and degrading remarks..
            only reminding you that who you are and the way you view yourself are different 😉

          2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Doron, please I dont do magic I cant help you. Go find yourself a scribe or pharisee and get corrupted.

          3. im only interested in your response for UN resolution 393, not asking you do do something beyond your abilities, only to acknowledge what is in it.
            …perhaps it is beyond your ability..

          4. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I think resolution 393 is in the Talmud.

          5. and we both KNOW you’re full of it

          6. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Im just letting some of it out on you. Its good for your complexion

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