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Kuwait pledges to help Lebanon overcome the crisis

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Kuwaiti Emir Sheikh Sabah al-Ahmad Al-Sabah voiced Tuesday his readiness to help Lebanon overcome its crisis during a meeting with former Lebanese Prime Minister and Future Movement parliamentary bloc leader MP Fouad Siniora.

“Kuwait is always ready to help Lebanon overcome the problems that it is facing.” According to statement by Siniora office .

Some unconfirmed point to a possible grant from by Kuwait in the near future to help arm the Lebanese army , in line with what Saudi Arabia has already done.

“We hope Lebanon remains stable and moves forward to development and progress in the next phase. Kuwait is willing to do anything it is asked of to help Lebanon and the Lebanese,” the Kuwaiti ruler was quoted as saying

President Michel Suleiman announced towards the end of December that Saudi Arabia pledged $3 billion to buy arms for the Lebanese Army from France to help support and strengthen the military.

“I am pleased to announce to the Lebanese people that Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdel Aziz Al Saud has decided to offer Lebanon a generous grant of $3 billion to help the Lebanese Armed Forces receive new weapons,” the president said in a televised address to the nation on December 29, 2013.

Siniora left for Kuwait on Monday to be the guest of honor for the opening of the fifth Annual Conference of Governance Institutes for Training in the Middle East and North Africa, according to the statement by his office .

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142 responses to “Kuwait pledges to help Lebanon overcome the crisis”

  1. man-o-war Avatar
    man-o-war

    Have they come through with what they pledged for Syria?

    http://www.theguardian.Com/world/2013/feb/28/aid-syria-fails-materialise

    1. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      Meanwhile:

      July 2013–>Saudi prince splashed out 15 million euros on a private three-day extravaganza at Disneyland near Paris to celebrate his degree

      July 2013 report–>Qatar, host of the 2022 World Cup, will spend $200 billion preparing for the event according to a report released by the consulting firm Deloitte

      Formula 1 racing : Bahrain’s government is thought to have spent $40 million to host the event.

      Dubai Fountain – Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Statistics: Dimensions: 1870 square feet Gallons released per minute: 22,000 Cost: 220 million USD Fountains at Dubai

      2013–>Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates say they are seeking $10.8 billion in advanced U.S.-made missiles and other weapons as part of bids by Western-allied Gulf states to stay ahead of claimed military strides by rival Iran.

      2013 Dubai Airshow–>Dubai-based Emirates airline flexed its buying power the hardest, with orders for 150 of the planned Boeing 777x at a combined price tag of $55.6 billion.

      2013–> when you’re a multi-billionaire Saudi Prince, you fly on a mind blowingly lavish$500 million customized Airbus A380. Recently it was revealed that Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, who has a net worth of $18 billion, purchased a $300 million Airbus A380 and is spending an additional $200 million remodeling the plane into a flying palace

      1. Reasonableman Avatar
        Reasonableman

        Champ no matter how much they spend its still like a drop of water in the ocean, if they are spending to help the lebanese army and the lebanese then good. Whatever they spend in their own country and own benifits has nothing to do with lebanese affairs.
        Why you bothered to copy and paste all this defies anybodies mental capacity.

        1. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          It was no trouble at all, just wanted to highlight their hypocrisy. They spend and spend. While at the same time pledging for the Syrian refugees and failing to come through on the pledges.

          All talk, but when its time to pay they are too busy shutting down Disney for 20 million. Most of the funding for the refugees have come from western countries. Silly Arabs!

          Again, it was no bother at all. Does it bother you that I copy and pasted this info?

          1. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Just trying to advise you that your post is irellavent to the story, and to take a chill pill before you have an anxiety attack. Its up to you now how you wish to take it.

            Btw the story is talking about kuwait and lebanon not saudi or dubai.
            Go fishing bro its a good day forget about politics its all lies anyway.

          2. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            You’re advising me? Thanks, but no thanks. It’s not irrelevant, your post is the irrelevant post. Its relevant because the Kuwaiti’s and the other oil rich gulf kingdoms have pledged money before, yet when it comes time to pay up they are not around. Yet they have time and money to support their extravagant spending.

            BTW, my first post was about Kuwait and their pledging. Take your own advice and swallow the chill pill. Once you’re relaxed follow the link and read the story.

          3. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Hence my reply was to this comment and not the previous one. Anyway suit yourself CIAO

          4. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            Finally you are starting to see the bigger picture regarding politics. Speaking of fishing reasonable, caught some beautiful snapper and flat head two nights ago at Rose bay bro. The wife is preparing it tonights dinner. Howell.

          5. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            esh el farq bezabet

          6. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            Think about cookie. Your a smart boy

          7. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            hmm, bafaker fee far2een? hence the 2 in the end

          8. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            You can interpret it anyway you want. Lol

          9. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Ill do a PhD on it

          10. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            Ha ha. Lol. Careful however, you might confuse some people on this site. :)))

          11. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Its all very simple. The world is split into liberals and conservatives. Liberals are a pain. Thats all there is to it. lol

          12. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            We’ll, your a smart cookie After all. :)))

          13. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            If you want some nice kingies try the wedding cake at rose bay, they are breeding around there somewhere.

          14. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            I love my snapper on the BBQ bro, A bit of lemon with garlic and I’m in heaven. As for kinglets, my cousins love them, however I hate the 45 to 1 hour trying to bring the bastards in. I’m getting lazy in my older age bro.

          15. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Your making me hungry. The other day my bro in law told me at monavale you can see the fish swimming underneath the boat, SACK the garbour water from now on!! The catch 22 is 3$ an hour to park the trailer.

          16. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            Tell your bro in law to do the lebo thing, launch the boat then park the trailer in the residential area. Lol. Here’s a little tip however don’t tell to many people. Fish around the boats in Rose bay bro. I always have success there with snapper, taylor and flat head. And the beauty about it is there’s not many people fishing in that area.

          17. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Gotta love lebos, i was working in cessnock one time i seen a lady pointing her finger at me she had 2 kids with her and im sure she was teaching her kids ” LOOKS KIDS ITS A LEBO” because as i was walking past shetried so badly not to make eye contact with me.
            Yea rosebay snappers, brim, flatheads, and tailors, if you go far enough you’ll catch alot of leather jackets. Yalla hows your samka 7ara or 7amda lol?

          18. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            I had the same thing at Nelson Bay last December. I was with my wife and kids as well as my bro in law who happens to built like wall. He’s about 6 foot 4 and very muscly. Bro you should have seen the rednecks shit themselves from us or should I say him. I couldn’t stop laughing at how afraid they were to make eye contact. Are we lebo’s that scary. Lol. If only they knew how friendly we really are.
            Remember the flash flooding that happened in Qld a couple of years ago. My neighbor with about 40 of his family and friends went up there to help out. When they got back he was telling me how the Aussies could not believe that Lebo’s went up there to help for free. I couldn’t stop laughing. If only they knew that most lebanese people are good people.

          19. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Yeah thats alot of “if onlies”… if only our image wasnt ruined by a small number of us.
            Im gonna sound like a nerd but is your name azzam by any chance?

          20. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            Nah bro. I would love to tell you my name, however you know whole line thing. I can tell you I live very close to where you live. I bet I have seen you in the area a few times. Probably at Bass Hill plaza or Cheso square. I always eat at Yasmeens in cheso. On of my favorite places to eat.

          21. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            What you need to do, guys, is walk out there naked. Have a good tan. No-one will look at you then either, but there won’t be fear. :-)))

          22. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            I think your on to something there 5th, sure the white Aussie woman would love that. Only problem is, what do we do about the men who may also enjoy the view.

          23. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Well, Farq2 … there are those of us who think there should be a sign at the bad end of a good beach that says ‘clothed people only’. 😉 Fence those ones in and let them bump their gums – shout at them for being clothed: ‘You don’t like what God gave you …. shame on you.’ 😉
            If you have never been at a nude beach with 1000 or more naked bodies enjoying the sun and surf, then you haven’t understood that admiring other people and enjoying Mother Nature doesn’t mean you should rush someone for a boink anytime you wish – and since everyone is ‘the same’, they barely notice. 😉

          24. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            get us some real numbers about the money for refugees and who the donors are.
            Try to underline Iran’s generous donations.

          25. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            http://www.theguardian.Com/world/2013/feb/28/aid-syria-fails-materialise

            The Yalibnan article that you’re commenting on does not mention Iran and their supposed donations. If you know of billions they pledged to the Syrian refugees and then failed to come through on you should post it.

          26. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            nobody gave money – not Arabs and not others for the simple reason that there are no aid organizations allowed on the ground by non-else than bashar.
            You think people are stupid. Sending trucks full of food so that bashar can hijack them and send them to Lattakia???

          27. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Very true.

            “The officials said the NGO groups that are delivering the aid on the ground are largely independent but acknowledged that their leaders may also have some ties to the Syrian government. Seventy percent of the total international humanitarian aid is going to groups that are supervised by the Syria government, the officials said.”

          28. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            What? ” Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar each pledged $300m. But WHO said it was still relying on funds from traditional sources such as Scandinavia, as well as the UN and EU. On Wednesday, Oxfam said just 20% of the $1.5bn pot had reached aid agencies.” So, some money was given. If the northern part of Syria is rebel controlled send in the aid from Turkey, just a suggestion to your claim that Bashar will hijack food trucks. I wouldn’t put it past him. What about the millions of refugees in surrounding countries? Will he also steal those supplies? How about instead of pledging to do more to ease the suffering the refugees are enduring, they actually do.

            “You think people are stupid.” Funny, because I never claimed anyone to be stupid.

          29. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            One site ….
            http://www.dailymotion.Com/video/xx5cwl_donations-for-syria-aid-exceed-un-target_news

          30. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Thanks for the link. The title of the video is a little misleading, it should be “Promises of donations for Syria aid exceed UN target”, the same thing happened last time. Pledges of 1.5 billion, but when its time to pay only 20% had been collected. They can pledge and promise all they want, looks and sounds good. But promises aren’t feeding the refugees or keeping them warm this winter.

          31. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yes. And every Lebanese NOT working is also a refugee. 🙁

          32. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            How about you ask your buddy bashar to quit the dictatorship and there won’t be civil war and no refugees?

          33. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Do you want to stay on topic? Or have you decided to attack my character now? You said nobody gave any money and I answered you. Knowing you’re wrong you resort to your typical attacks. I will entertain you for a bit longer. Assad is not my buddy and hopefully the war will reach an end soon. If I had the power or connections I would try and talk sense into him. Hopefully somebody will do the same for you soon.

          34. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            I am on topic, you keep forgetting who created all this mess and keep insisting that others patch it! The money has been promised but there are no fair ways to distribute it or have it reach the people who need it. Part of the Geneva II talks is exactly how to get that aid to besieged people in Homs. Besieged by who?? By (I insist) your buddy bashar. No corridors. No aid! Simple. Donors are not going to give the money to organizations that will work under bashar’s supervision. Very simple. As for the surrounding countries, why I said arriving to Turkish and Jordanian refugee camps and not Lebanese? Because Lebanon has NO government! Here’s a billion to the Leb. Gov. To give to refugees. Oh wait, there is no government in place and the money aid will go to some Hezbollah linked pocket. You do think people are stupid. But they’re not. They know what’s going on on the ground much more than your blogger ass do.

          35. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Why do you insist on reminding me and others of who started this? It solves nothing ASS. Homs is not the only place aid is needed, Ass! There are refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan, and Lebanon. They could provide aid to the refugee camps without giving a billion dollars to the Lebanese government. Aid agencies already operate in Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey.

            Maybe ASSad is blocking aid to Homs, I don’t know that and neither do you, ASS. One side claims the rebels are preventing aid from reaching the people, and the other side claims the government is at fault. The Palestinian minister recently said that your buddies the rebels were the ones blocking aid from reaching Yarmouk.

            Your buddies are holed up in these cities and towns in Syria, it makes sense that my buddies wouldn’t want to send in food and medical supplies. Why should my buddies send in medical supplies that will be used to patch up your buddies? Why should he feed your buddies? If my buddy could guarantee that only the innocent non-combatants would be receiving aid, maybe he would make it easier to access those areas. However, in Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon no corridor is needed. The trucks can reach the people there. They shouldn’t be in need of warm clothing, food, and medical supplies.

            I don’t think people are stupid, just you ASS! Don’t you images of children dying and suffering to watch? I know the bombings have been slow lately, but they should be picking up soon. Don’t be discouraged, get your popcorn ready. Your terrorist buddies should come through for you any moment now.

            “Oh wait, there is no government in place and the money aid will go to some Hezbollah linked pocket.”, yeah the boogie man will take all the money. I’m sure they are the only ones fleecing the Lebanese, because everyone nows the other sides are clean and honest.

          36. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Finally manning up and showing your true colors. Yes, raise that yellow flag of yours, stop being ashamed of the side you’ve chosen and hiding behind a fake neutral observer opinion. You are fooling no one. You’re a yellow at heart, a basij lover, a chabih like your brothers and cousins. Aid is arriving to Turkey and Jordan, read the news. The only ones not receiving aid are Syrians in Lebanon ( I explained why) and Syrians under siege in Syria.
            It’s your and yours hands that will be tainted with the blood of Syrian children. My conscious is very clear. These kids will be haunting you and yours.

          37. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Haha, you’re such a turd. There is no point in even arguing with you. I remember clearly how you enjoyed the suicide bombings that your terrorist buddies committed. Don’t try and back track from those statements, douche. Get back on your knees and juggle ASSirs jingle bells. I’m not finally manning up, ask your mother how I’ve been manning up.

            Like I said before, its really a shame she didn’t swallow you.

        2. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          What he’s trying to tell you is Arabs started the Syrian war and when they couldn’t handle the shit they left the refugees for someone else to deal with. No wonder why American people and even all western countries can’t stand them.

          1. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Its a shame that all that oil money goes to some dumb nomads walking barefoot in the desert, imagine what an investment that would make to science

          2. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            But that wouldn’t be in israel’s interest.

          3. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Who made u spokesman off EVERYONE in the west?

          4. libnan1 Avatar
            libnan1

            you made me, go back to your pudding extravaganza.

          5. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Please don’t give up ur day job, comedy isn’t one of ur stronger traits.

          6. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I think he is self employed, an owner operator if you know what I mean.

          7. Reasonableman Avatar
            Reasonableman

            Assad started shooting civillians and assad sent home those poor little boys in peices, if by arabs you mean assad then fine i agree.

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar
    5thDrawer

    How much to the desperate hospitals ??? Especially in Tripoli.

    From the Daily Star ….
    ‘Sabbouh, in a phone call with The Daily Star, refused to discuss the causes of the child’s death, adding that the results of the examination had been given to the general prosecution, which was responsible for making the report’s contents public.
    Tripoli has seen several similar cases before. Toddler Moemin al- Mohammad was denied treatment by several hospitals in the city in April when he was suffering from a fever. He later died at the doors of Tripoli’s Dar al-Shifaa Hospital.
    The child’s parents, who did not have insurance, were told they would have to pay approximately $1,000 to get their son, who was just under 2 months old, into the hospitals, including Dar al-Shifaa.
    The boy’s father eventually managed to secure the necessary funds but by then it was already too late.’

    Pulling bullets out of the gun-men seems not to require the money up-front. 😉

    1. barabie Avatar
      barabie

      That is so sad. I’m at a loss for words.

    2. man-o-war Avatar
      man-o-war

      Sad story. Unfortunately, its a daily occurrence in Lebanon. Too bad that the 3 billion the Saudis want to donate isn’t to provide healthcare for the destitute population.

      1. MekensehParty Avatar
        MekensehParty

        no they should spend these 3 billions paying dahyeh’s electrical bills…

        1. cook2half Avatar
          cook2half

          No need, thats being handled with drug money, lol..

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            not even…
            not a $ in bills to the government in 3 decades

          2. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Its just an Iranian colony. Solution is either bomb it or deport it lol

        2. man-o-war Avatar
          man-o-war

          Wow! Do you have anything useful to add, or you just trying to be your normal antagonizing self?

          Did I even suggest that Richard Cabeza? I suggested they help the health care system thats failing the average Lebanese.

          1. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Everything is failing the average Lebanese, not going to shed crocodile tears.
            Help Lebanon get rid of the militia that calls itself the resistance first, then the Tripoli guys who want an Islamic Emirate in Tripoli and half of the people going to hospitals wont need healthcare.
            By helping the army they’re investing in healthcare

          2. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            “Toddler Moemin al- Mohammad”, he must have been a hardened criminal. I’m not surprised that you won’t shed tears. Maybe this toddler should be killed because his father might be an extremist and we wouldn’t want to feed him and have turn out like his father. Right Richard? Go grab some popcorn and watch Lebanon burn and suffer.

          3. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            If you want to cry on kids dying cry on all of them, not one or two and forget the rest. Hypocrite!

          4. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Ok, Saint Richard Cabeza. I forgot how much you care about the Lebanese, go have some popcorn.

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yes. Just keeping peace would relieve a lot of the ‘stress-related’ disorders.

  3. barabie Avatar
    barabie

    Cook and doron this is a good example of ur Aussie hero the cow bishop.

    “Notorious for her death stare, Julie ‘Medusa’ Bishop, the Australian Foreign Minister, on January 15, speaking for her government, with colonial panache dismissed Israeli settlements as war crimes with this vacuous statement: “I would like to see which international law has declared them illegal.”

    Not a good look coming from the FM of a nation privileged to have a seat on the UN Security Council, when even the gardener at Parliament House has heard of the Geneva Conventions.

    Like its mate, the rogue state of Israel, Australia doesn’t give a toss for honouring its obligations under international law.

    It tossed aside its obligations to the Refugee Conventions with its inhumane offshore asylum seeker policy, forcing asylum seeker boats back to Indonesia, refusal to compensate people who have been held for prolonged periods in mandatory detention, ‘breached its international anti-race discrimination obligations by continuing for almost three years its intervention policies with indigenous communities of the Northern Territory,’ the high instance of Aboriginal deaths in custody, the breaching of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights in the matter of Guantanamo inmate, David Hicks, the unresolved allegations that Australian intelligence officers were complicit in the torture of Mamdouh Habib when he was held in Pakistan, Egypt and Guantanamo Bay, the Queensland bikie laws that fail to meet international fair trial standards.”

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      And yet, Barabie, it is VERY willing (in Beirut) to interview people for immigration – legally under the ‘Aussie Rules’ (like their football) …. So we’d have to assume that like other counties, it wants it’s own ‘rules’ followed – and the within the country there are, as usual, a few ‘dunderheads’ who don’t agree with the rules some previous batch of dunderheads put in place.

      The ‘advantage’ for Aussies, as opposed to Lebanese, is a large body of rough water. 🙂

    2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
      Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Come on barabie, our Julie bishop is an outstanding Australian politician, a great role model for all Australian women. We’ve gone from hundreds of leaking death trap boats carrying cheats into the country to nearly zero, now that’s some good stats. Her along with mr Tony Abbott and joe hockey are kicking some serious butt with these afghani, Iraqi, Iranian, Indian, srilankan so called refugees. I like Australia the way it is, it’s a perfect mix the lifestyle is great and the balance needs to be looked after. No room here for people who hate the west and the culture. So if your a mamdouh habib supporter go listen to his sob of a story he got off lightly he needs to shut up the wortee, what’s he doing here if Australia is so evil. He needs to go back to tahrrir square in Egypt and get his head pounded by the Egyptian army. Good job mr Abbott well done, prime minister.

      1. barabie Avatar
        barabie

        Hopefully u never get treated the same way mamdouh was but of course if u do I will still defend ur right to justice.

        1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Sweetheart if he was clean he wouldn’t of been subjected to what he claims he was, we both know that Australia is the best country too live in and the privilege is all ours, if he decided to enter the no go zone of Islamic extremism then the country has a right to be suspicious and the dues are fair. Finally thank you for your goodwill, very appreciated.

          1. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Really? He wasn’t “clean”? So the government compensates and allows to roam the country freely terrorists who aren’t “clean”?? And u want to live in a country that does that? Haha

            “LAST December 17 in Sydney, officers representing the federal Attorney-General Robert McClelland signed a secret deal with former terror suspect Mamdouh Habib.

            It featured an undisclosed compensation payout in return for Habib dropping his long-running civil suit claiming commonwealth complicity in his 2001 arrest, rendition, detention and torture in Pakistan, Egypt and Guantanamo Bay.”

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Cheaper than court-time on a stupidity, I’d guess. Saved the taxpayers money.

          3. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            So u think bringing out the truth about government complicity in its torture of innocent civilians is “stupidity”? Wow my respect for u continues to diminish.
            Interesting how u rally against torture by assaad but support it being done by the west or at least support its cover up.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Good. But why was he in ‘Pakistan, Egypt and Guantanamo Bay?’
            By the way, do you get to vote ‘down under’?

            Best story of a ‘Real Aussie’ I’ve seen lately:
            A doctor out swimming in a wetsuit feels a shark tugging at his leg. Takes out his knife and beats the shark off. Goes to shore, takes off the suit, inspects, then stitches up his own leg, after which he heads to the nearest bar.
            Bar-man aids with disinfectant – inside and out. :-))
            No cost to taxpayers.

            More than one reason for a bar. 😉

          5. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            I could be wrong, but I think that guy was a Kiwi not Aussie.

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Ahhh … oh well … same temperament … 🙂

          7. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Don’t think so, our beer is much better! I might be biased, but you can’t beat a Crown Lager.

          8. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            He’s as ugly as a hat full of arseholes, not even the kiwis would lay claim to this mug. I have Moslem friends that want to drop him, he’s a nothing. He even had the nerve to run in the local elections one time, and they still complaining at how he was treated by the US

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Wait Mab … we were talking about sharks … hahahahha

          10. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Time out then.

          11. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            So ur assuming he was guilty purely coz he was in Pakistan, Egypt and Guantanamo??
            So there were no innocents in gitmo?? Really 5th?
            Incredible!

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Now you’re assuming that I assumed no innocents in gitmo …
            Or are you assuming they were ALL innocent?
            But that didn’t answer ‘why’ he went to those places ….

          13. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            U used the fact he was held at those locations to question his innocence. As for whether they r all innocent I don’t know but certainly the majority have been proven to be innocent, from memory it was 89% innocent.

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            And then, the innocents proven went ‘home’ … 😉

          15. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            I’m so surprised at ur behaviour today, I honestly expected more from u!!

            “Holding prisoners even after their innocence is known, as President Obama and the present Congress are doing even today, is a moral abomination, and completely contrary to the philosophy of the American framers, who believed that humans were endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If there is something more unAmerican than indefinitely detaining people you know to be innocent I don’t know what it is. Doing so for political reasons may make it even worse. “

          16. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yah … I thought the whole ‘take ’em to Cuba’ bit was stupid anyway. Purpose basically was the concept of ‘digging into the psyches’ to find out what the hell makes them tic. Like asking ‘why’? Should have been in ‘local prisons’. Right?

          17. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Why do men find it difficult to admit they r wrong!? Is it the testosterone?

          18. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Why are we even discussing the ‘Aussie’ psyche?
            But, by the way, did every ‘innocent guy’ who got out of Gitmo get some kind of ‘compensation’ from his government – wherever – when he got back, after taking a ‘holiday’ in a war-zone and stepping through the wrong door?

          19. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            I give up on u!

          20. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Don’t expect a war to have rationality. The Yanks lost theirs one 9/11 morning.

          21. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Atleast us blokes forgive, hell have no fury like a women’s scorn. Is that how it goes?

          22. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Close enough Maboriz … ‘hath no fury like a woman scorned’ … and yet, we have not scorned her, have we?

          23. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yah. We are not enraged so much when the garbage doesn’t get taken out, or the walls painted the ‘perfect colour’ on a changing basis.
            But after three years of ‘EVIDENCE’, one can be pissed off with the stupidity.

          24. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            Not always the case 5th.

            http://www.washingtonpost.Com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/25/kafka-at-gitmo-why-86-prisoners-are-cleared-for-release-but-might-never-get-it/

          25. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Yah .. there was a theoretical ‘Canuk’ who had to be extracted too … took a bunch of us crying ‘foul’ to get him out … but he shouldn’t have been throwing hand-grenades somewhere, and getting ‘caught’, either. Brainwashed at age 14.

          26. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Innocents? No! There were none in gitmo. Not one. All of them were related one way or another to your dear eternal leader may the fish eat the last of his flesh and spit it.
            There were no innocents in gitmo. There were only a variety of Qaeda combatants of different levels.

          27. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Sorry to say but the FACTS say otherwise but of course the truth doesn’t concern u.

          28. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            What facts? The ones you’ve chosen to read on aljazeera? There are millions of pages of these dogs involvement at various levels with a terrorist organization that masterminded an attack on American civilians (doubt you cried for these babies). They were caught on a battlefield and taken as prisoner and interrogated heavily till one of them spit a name, that led to a phone number, that led to an email, that led all the way to Abbottabad were a US made bullet ended the adventure of your hero.
            Cry about gitmo for the centuries to come, who cares of your opinion, a nation beat a monster, that’s what history will remember.

          29. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Please stop being lame with ur al jaz monotone dialogue. Ur really boring me.

          30. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            And of ALL people u have the audacity to talk about babies dying? YOU??? Stfu!

          31. man-o-war Avatar
            man-o-war

            http://www.npr.Org/2013/05/05/181215131/former-detainee-talks-of-desperation-in-guantanamo-bay

            This mekenseh (appropriate name for him) is a troll POS. He thinks children of criminals, Palestinians, HA members, should be killed. He might try and deny it, but I’m pretty sure you read the same comments that I did. He gets off watching the aftermath of suicide bombings, not without his popcorn of course.

          32. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            ” “I have made a personal choice to come forward and discuss the abuses that occurred,” he stated, “because knowledge that I served in an Administration that tortured and abused those it detained at the facility at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere and indefinitely detained the innocent for political reasons has marked a low point in my professional career and I wish to make the record clear on what occurred.””

          33. Btru2u Avatar
            Btru2u

            they re playing mind games with you, it doesn’t seem like their interested in the truth.. don’t let them get to you Warrier Princess
            ive been busy with family work , prayer , sorry I cant join in and smash their flasehoods permanently ….., I’m trying have a balanced life….. you should too….converasations end up in never ending circles….. there are bigger fish to fry, and innocent people to save….

          34. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            So Btru2u … isn’t it ALL about a ‘mind game’ called ‘Religion’??
            The ‘Raison D’etre’?
            The article is about ‘Aid’ to Lebanon … the discussion begins with one thing that NEEDS the aid badly, and all of a sudden we are into Australian Politics. ????
            Might as well have a ‘mind-game’ since no-one can keep the minds on a topic.
            Basic problem of the WHOLE debacle of Lebanese politics. And No Logic.
            Might as well end up comparing BEERS.

          35. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Your our hero, btru…. Mafi metlak…….enti my superman.

          36. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Would he be entitled to compensation in the middle east? I don’t think so! He would be another missing soul somewhere only God knows. You really don’t know how lucky we are. We go to the hospital if we get a sniffle and we get treated like we the most important persons plz don’t diss this country I can handle what ever but not that. We owe this country more than our Lebanon, Syria, or wherever.

          37. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            This is my country and I will speak out against injustice in this country and any other country. Just coz u get ur sniffles treated at a public hospital doesn’t mean u should turn a blind eye to injustice elsewhere.

          38. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You know what I’m saying don’t choose to be stupid your better than that. If injustice occurred he is getting compensated as you said, and if that is not good enough it’s the best you can expect. What if he was in iran or Saudi Arabia he would of had his head detached from his torso by now.

          39. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            One minute u care and the next u r accusing me of being stupid.
            Conveniently u avoided admitting u were wrong when u accused the guy of not being “clean” after I proved he was innocent. U tried to change the subject to how he wouldn’t have been compensated in some other country even tho we r not talking about those countries. Please stick to the topic and when u r wrong be man enough to admit it.

          40. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I thought it was obvious, maybe not. I’ll repeat, he got off lightly he is extremely lucky to be in Australia, now shut up and enjoy the place before we alienate ourselves over here like we managed to do in the homeland.

          41. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Australia IS my homeland.

          42. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Niiiiiiiiiice.

          43. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Smoothie … 😉

        2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Hey I can’t tell some I care about what’s good for them, what’s the world coming to? Typical males are not even cool no more only the fairy rainbow underwear wearing males are acceptable in these times. Ya lateef.

          1. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Awww u care about me?

          2. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I have to and I want to care about you, I’m a Christian and it’s my duty to care about everyone. Except the self exploding ones that kill and take out whoever indiscriminately women, kids or any civilian in the vicinity.

  4. barabie Avatar
    barabie

    ” Israeli soldiers arrested the camel belonging to Moslim Younis Rashaydeh and took it to the Ma’ale Adumim settlement near Bethany.”

    Lol camels must be very dangerous.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      They can’t translate any difference between ‘arrested’ and ‘corralled’. :-))
      Same as ‘wounded’ or ‘injured’.

      1. barabie Avatar
        barabie

        Corralled could work but it wouldn’t be as funny.

    2. cook2half Avatar
      cook2half

      .. ?

      lol

      1. barabie Avatar
        barabie

        What’s the question?

        1. cook2half Avatar
          cook2half

          ya sounds like pallywood, I googled this and only one link came up, dripping with propaganda. Anyway, what happens in Judea and Samaria is none of anyone’s business.

          1. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Looked on the map and can’t find this non existent judea and Samaria. Lol

          2. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            lololol its there

          3. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            U remind me of those Iranians when I ask them where r they from, the say “I’m Persian”. I always say but I can’t find Persia on the map. They say its now Iran, do I say oh ur Iranian. Just to piss them off!
            Same with some Lebanese who would say they r Phoenician.

          4. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            I call myself Iranian and say I speak Farsi. Persia doesnt exist anymore, and was only a region in what is now modern day Iran.

          5. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Just like judea and samaria doesn’t exist anymore.

          6. cook2half Avatar
            cook2half

            Its just a geographical region. Jews call it Judea and Samaria, Jordanians renamed it ‘West Bank’ in 1951, others dont see it as geographically separate from Israel or transjordan.

          7. libnan1 Avatar
            libnan1

            And your point is!!!!!

          8. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            If u can’t see the point then that says heaps about your level of understanding.

          9. libnan1 Avatar
            libnan1

            No I don’t see yu point, that is why I asked. I guess yu can call yourself a philasophy. Again go back to your pudding.

          10. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Even a 20 year old understood better than u

          11. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Ask hind, she’s sure to have them on her map 🙂

          12. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            LOLOLOO I’m still laughing as I type. Omg too funny

          13. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Lol, she is going to crack it as I have typed her name with a small h. It is a sign of disrespect!

          14. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Lol ur on a roll today.

          15. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Yeah, she would be like that Scottish teacher in Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”

            “You! Yes, you! Stand still laddy!”

            “What have we here laddie?
            Mysterious scribblings?
            A secret code?
            No – poems, no less – poems, everybody!
            The laddie recons himself a poet!

            ‘Money gets back
            I’m all right Jack
            Keep your hands off my stack
            New car, Caviar,
            Four star daydream
            twinkle by me
            A football team’

            Absolute rubbish, laddie!
            (smack!)
            Get on with your work!
            Repeat after me:
            An acre is the area of a rectangle whois legs ….

          16. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Lol I don’t know the song but that’s friggin hilarious.

          17. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Lebanon was Phoenicia from Latakiah to Akre.. in history books Ha hah…!

    3. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      did he read the camel’s rights?

      1. cook2half Avatar
        cook2half

        Id question whether this even happened, sounds like more fairy tales from the arabs who call themselves “palestinians”

      2. barabie Avatar
        barabie

        Lol doubt it. Hopefully they didn’t treat the camel the same way they treat humans.

        1. MekensehParty Avatar
          MekensehParty

          Well then pray that it wasn’t a Syrian who arrested the camel

          1. barabie Avatar
            barabie

            Good point. Why r u being civil today?

          2. Farq2 Avatar
            Farq2

            He must have finished his 3 year period. :))))

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