McCain Urges Lawmakers to Back Obama’s Plan for Syria

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mccain 101The White House pushed forward aggressively on Monday for Congressional approval of an attack on Syria as President Obama got tentative support from one of his most hawkish Republican critics, Senator John McCain of Arizona, for a “limited” strike — as long, Mr. McCain said, as the president did more to arm the Syrian opposition.

After an hourlong meeting with Mr. Obama at the White House, Mr. McCain emerged with Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, to say that the two senators’ discussions with Mr. Obama in the Oval Office had been “encouraging.” He also urged Congress to support Mr. Obama in his plan for military action in Syria, saying that a no vote would be “catastrophic” for the United States and its credibility in the world.

The words from Mr. McCain were a positive development for the White House and a critical part of the Obama administration’s lobbying blitz on Syria on Monday. The day got off to a start with a 70-minute telephone briefing to the House Democratic Caucus by Secretary of State John Kerry; Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel; Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Susan E. Rice, the national security adviser; and James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence.

There were 127 House Democrats on the call, nearly two-thirds of their total number. Democrats on the call said the debate was shifting away from whether the Assad government had used chemical weapons in a massacre last week — several Democrats said the material cited as evidence by the administration was persuasive — and more toward how should the administration should respond.

“The debate is shifting away from, did he use chemical weapons, to what should be done about it?” Representative Adam B. Schiff, a California Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a telephone interview.

There was also a strong sense on the call, Democrats said, that Mr. Obama needs to appeal directly to American public, most likely in a prime-time address.

On the call, Mr. Kerry took the lead, portraying the horrors of chemical weapons and underscoring the consequences of inaction. General Dempsey reviewed possible targeting, and how the military is planning strikes that minimize threat to civilians. He also reprised the argument that delay does not help President Bashar al-Assad despite his dispersal of troops and equipment. Mr. Clapper reviewed unclassified intelligence, particularly his view of why rebels could not have launched poison gas attack. Ms. Rice played maestro and traffic cop and assigned questions from lawmakers to the briefers.

Although Mr. McCain and Mr. Graham have been sharply critical of Mr. Obama that a strike he is planning on Syria would not be extensive enough, many more lawmakers in both parties have taken the opposite approach of Mr. McCain and Mr. Graham, saying they were wary of a strike on Syria, no matter how limited.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama is to meet with the leadership of the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and their counterparts in the House.

Administration officials said the influential pro-Israel lobby group Aipac was already at work pressing for military action against the government of Mr. Assad, fearing that if Syria escapes American retribution for its use of chemical weapons, Iran might be emboldened in the future to attack Israel. In the House, the majority leader, Eric Cantor of Virginia, the only Jewish Republican in Congress, has long worked to challenge Democrats’ traditional base among Jews.

One administration official, who, like others, declined to be identified discussing White House strategy, called Aipac “the 800-pound gorilla in the room,” and said its allies in Congress had to be saying, “If the White House is not capable of enforcing this red line” against the catastrophic use of chemical weapons, “we’re in trouble.”

In France, the only nation to offer vigorous support for an American attack, there were rising calls for a parliamentary vote like the one in last week in Britain, where lawmakers jolted the White House with a rejection of a British military attack. But the French government, in an effort to bolster its case, released a declassified summary of French intelligence that it said ties Mr. Assad’s government to the use of chemical weapons on Aug. 21.

In Russia, Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov dismissed as unconvincing the evidence presented by Mr. Kerry of chemical weapons use by the Syrian government. “We were shown certain pieces of evidence that did not contain anything concrete, neither geographical locations, nor names, nor evidence that samples had been taken by professionals,” Mr. Lavrov said in a speech at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations.

In Israel, President Shimon Peres offered strong support for Mr. Obama’s decision to seek the backing of Congress , saying he had faith in the president’s “moral and operational” position. “I recommend patience,” Mr. Peres said in an interview on Army Radio. “I am confident that the United States will respond appropriately to Syria.”

In Washington, the White House’s “flood the zone” effort, as one official called it, will continue. Classified briefings will be held for all House members and senators on Tuesday, Thursday and Friday.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama has invited the Republican and Democratic leaders of the House and Senate defense, foreign affairs and intelligence committees to the White House. But that night, he departs on a long-planned foreign trip, first to Sweden and then to Russia for the annual G-20 summit meeting of major industrialized and developing nations, a forum that is sure to be dominated by talk of Syria, and bring Mr. Obama face-to-face with Mr. Assad’s chief ally and arms supplier, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.

House Democrats on the conference call with administration officials, which lasted 70 minutes, said Mr. Kerry, who has been the most aggressive and public prosecutor for military action, took the lead. Democrats said he portrayed not only the horrors of chemical weapons inflicted on Syrian civilians in the Aug. 21 attacks outside Damascus, but also the potential threat, if left unanswered, that such weapons posed to regional allies like Israel, Jordan and Turkey.

Mr. Kerry argued that inaction could embolden Iran or nonstate terrorists to strike those Middle East allies, and further encourage Iran and North Korea to press ahead with their nuclear programs.

“One of the important propositions that Kerry put to members was, are you willing to live with the consequences of doing nothing?” said Representative Gerald E. Connolly, a Virginia Democrat.

The secretary of state addressed lawmakers’ concern that the United States should have international support. “The United States will not go it alone,” he said at one point, according to a senior Democrat who declined to be identified. Offers of “military assets” have come from France, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates, he said, without identifying the assets, and more are expected.

In the week since the Obama administration began moving toward a military strike on the Assad government, Mr. Kerry said, the Syrian military has seen about 100 defections, including 80 officers.

General Dempsey reviewed the range of possible targets and how the Pentagon is planning strikes that would minimize risk to civilians. Despite reports that Syrian commanders were moving troops and equipment into civilian neighborhoods, General Dempsey told lawmakers, as he had assured Mr. Obama, that delaying military action would not weaken the effectiveness of any military attack. He suggested that military officials would adjust their targets to address changes on the ground.

The general acknowledged that the United States could not prevent the Assad government from using chemical weapons again, but said the military had “additional options” should a first missile strike not deter a retaliatory strike by Mr. Assad, including in defense of critical allies, presumably Israel, Jordan and Turkey. That scenario, however, describes just the escalating conflict some opponents fear.

“My constituents are skeptical that a limited effort will not mushroom into a full-blown boots on the ground,” said Representative Elijah E. Cummings, a Maryland Democrat.

Mr. McCain, who has been arguing for two years that the United States should support a moderate Syrian opposition, said he had strongly urged the president on Monday to provide anti-tank and antiaircraft systems to the opposition and to attack the Syrian air force.

Mr. Obama indicated that “he favorably viewed the degrading of Bashar al-Assad’s capabilities as well as upgrading the Free Syrian Army,” Mr. McCain said in an interview.

Administration officials have told Congress that the C.I.A.’s program to arm the rebels would be deliberately limited at first to allow a trial run for American officials to monitor it before ramping up to a larger, more aggressive campaign. American officials have been wary that arms provided to the rebels could end up in the hands of Islamic extremists with ties to Al Qaeda.

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26 responses to “McCain Urges Lawmakers to Back Obama’s Plan for Syria”

  1. Put your trust in Jesus, The Son of God, who knows the beginning from the end………God Bless…….

    ………“We can sense the beginning signs for the fulfillment of
    Isaiah 17′s destruction of Damascus when we witness the influx of refugees from
    Syria to Jordan as predicted by the prophet Amos: ‘I will break also the bar of
    Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that
    holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go
    into captivity unto Kir, saith the LORD’ (Amos 1:5),” “It is
    here that we find the amazing precision of Bible prophecy: Aven is Damascus
    today, and Damascus is also literally mentioned here by name. Syrians are
    leaving by the droves into Jordan and precisely ‘unto Kir,’ which is Kir-Moab
    (Isaiah 15:1). Today that region is called Kerak. When we review both the ancient
    map and the statistics of the recent influx of Syrian refugees into Jordan, we
    find that over a half million Syrians already fled to ‘the borders of the land
    of Moab now called Kerrek [Kerak].”………

    1. Isaiah 17 A Prophecy Against Damascus.17:1-6
      “See, Damascus will no longer be a city
      but will become a heap of ruins.
      2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
      and left to flocks, which will lie down,
      with no one to make them afraid.
      3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
      and royal power from Damascus;
      the remnant of Aram will be
      like the glory of the Israelites,”
      declares the Lord Almighty.

      4 “In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
      the fat of his body will waste away.
      5 It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
      gathering the grain in their arms—
      as when someone gleans heads of grain
      in the Valley of Rephaim.
      6 Yet some gleanings will remain,
      as when an olive tree is beaten,
      leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
      four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
      declares the Lord, the God of Israel”
      —————————————————-
      Israel is another name of Jacob (peace be upon him) God of Israel is Allah the almighty.The fortified city and the royal power from Damascus will disappear.The glory of Jacob will fade; the fat of his body will waste away. the beating will be similar as the olive tree is beaten. We may read the following verse up to verse 14 for better understanding. Interesting point in the verse is “The glory of Jacob” . I can conclude that the Alawites are a branch of Israelite and could be one of many descendants of Reuben. Gog is also a descendant of Reuben. But Magog is a descendant of Japheth who was a son of Prophet Noa (Peace be upon him)

      1. Our esteemed scholar (do not let it get to your head because I AM BEING SARCASTIC)

        In the Christian religion we closed the book of the Jews (Bible) as it is histories that ALREADY happened… Our ONLY book we do follow is the new testament which comprises the books of Luke, Matthew, Mark, and John, which talks about the life and parables and acts of Jesus. You need to know that the Bible is just a reference and not a prophecy. The bible prophesied about the coming of Jesus (incidentally never mentioned Mohammed)… It stopped there and then with the birth of Jesus. So quote all you want as it is irrelevant to us… The beginning of the age was with Jesus and his acts and ascension was the beginning of the end.

        Isaiah 7:14: Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. Immanuel (3amanu eel) which translates to Al-rabbu ma3akum…

        Psalm 2:7: I will proclaim the Lord’s decree:
        He said to me, “You are my son;
        today I have become your father.”

        Zechariah 12:10: “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

        Psalm 110:1: The Lord says to my lord:
        “Sit at my right hand
        until I make your enemies
        a footstool for your feet.”

        With the birth of Jesus we closed the bible and opened the New Testament as the last book until the End of Times.

        1. A Message About Elam (Present day Iran) in Jeremiah 49

          49:34 This is the word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet concerning Elam, early in the reign of Zedekiahking of Judah:

          35 This is what the Lord Almighty says:

          “See, I will break the bow of Elam,
          the mainstay of their might.
          36 I will bring against Elam the four winds
          from the four quarters of heaven;
          I will scatter them to the four winds,
          and there will not be a nation
          where Elam’s exiles do not go.
          37 I will shatter Elam before their foes,
          before those who want to kill them;
          I will bring disaster on them,
          even my fierce anger,”
          declares the Lord.
          “I will pursue them with the sword
          until I have made an end of them.
          38 I will set my throne in Elam
          and destroy her king and officials,”
          declares the Lord.

          39 “Yet I will restore the fortunes of Elam
          in days to come,”
          declares the Lord.”

        2. A Message About Edom i.e.The descendant of Esau. The Romans.Jeremiah 49

          49:7 Concerning Edom:

          This is what the Lord Almighty says:

          “Is there no longer wisdom in Teman?
          Has counsel perished from the prudent?
          Has their wisdom decayed?
          8 Turn and flee, hide in deep caves,
          you who live in Dedan,
          for I will bring disaster on Esau
          at the time when I punish him.
          9 If grape pickers came to you,
          would they not leave a few grapes?
          If thieves came during the night,
          would they not steal only as much as they wanted?
          10 But I will strip Esau bare;
          I will uncover his hiding places,
          so that he cannot conceal himself.
          His armed men are destroyed,
          also his allies and neighbors,
          so there is no one to say,
          11 ‘Leave your fatherless children; I will keep them alive.
          Your widows too can depend on me.’”

          12 This is what the Lord says: “If those who do not deserve to drink the cup must drink it, why should you go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, but must drink it. 13 I swear by myself,” declares the Lord, “that Bozrahwill become a ruin and a curse,[b] an object of horror and reproach; and all its towns will be in ruins forever.”

          14 I have heard a message from the Lord;
          an envoy was sent to the nations to say,
          “Assemble yourselves to attack it!
          Rise up for battle!”

          15 “Now I will make you small among the nations,
          despised by mankind.
          16 The terror you inspire
          and the pride of your heart have deceived you,
          you who live in the clefts of the rocks,
          who occupy the heights of the hill.
          Though you build your nest as high as the eagle’s,
          from there I will bring you down,”
          declares the Lord.
          17 “Edom will become an object of horror;
          all who pass by will be appalled and will scoff
          because of all its wounds.
          18 As Sodom and Gomorrah were overthrown,
          along with their neighboring towns,”
          says the Lord,
          “so no one will live there;
          no people will dwell in it.

          19 “Like a lion coming up from Jordan’s thickets
          to a rich pastureland,
          I will chase Edom from its land in an instant.
          Who is the chosen one I will appoint for this?
          Who is like me and who can challenge me?
          And what shepherd can stand against me?”

          20 Therefore, hear what the Lord has planned against Edom,
          what he has purposed against those who live in Teman:
          The young of the flock will be dragged away;
          their pasture will be appalled at their fate.
          21 At the sound of their fall the earth will tremble;
          their cry will resound to the Red Sea.[c]
          22 Look! An eagle will soar and swoop down,
          spreading its wings over Bozrah.
          In that day the hearts of Edom’s warriors
          will be like the heart of a woman in labor.”

    2. Amos 1:5. New International Version (NIV)
      5 ” I will break down the gate of Damascus;
      I will destroy the king who is in the Valley of Aven
      and the one who holds the scepter in Beth Eden.
      The people of Aram will go into exile to Kir,”
      says the Lord.”
      —————————-
      Footnotes:
      Amos 1 : ” The words of Amos, one of the shepherds of Tekoa—the vision he saw concerning Israel two years before the earthquake, when Uzziah was king of Judah and Jeroboam son of Jehoash[a] was king of Israel”
      Amos 1:5 Aven means wickedness.

      Does the prophesy talk about Bashar Al-Qaeda?

    3. Amos 3-5
      3 This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Damascus,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because she threshed Gilead
      with sledges having iron teeth,
      4 I will send fire on the house of Hazael
      that will consume the fortresses of Ben-Hadad.
      5 I will break down the gate of Damascus;
      I will destroy the king who is in[b] the Valley of Aven[c]
      and the one who holds the scepter in Beth Eden.
      The people of Aram will go into exile to Kir,”
      says the Lord.”
      ——————————–
      “House of Hazael” : Hazael is a name. His full name meaning, “God has seen” was a court official and later an Aramean king who is mentioned in the Bible. Under his reign, Aram-Damascus became an empire that ruled over large parts of Syria and Palestine.Ben-Hadad was the king of Aram Damascus between 885 BC and 865 BC. He was the son of Tabrimmon and grandson of Hezion and a contemporary of Kings Baasha and Ahab of Israel and Asa of Judah. Valley of Aven is possibly Valley of Baca where Hezbushaitans stronghold and where “poppies grow between the crosses row on row”. “Beth Eden”: “house of pleasure,” a place in Aram (Syria). “Kir” can be Karak (Arabic: Al-Karak الكرك‎) is a city in Jordan that is known for the famous crusader castle Kerak.

    4. Amos 6-8
      6 This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Gaza,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because she took captive whole communities
      and sold them to Edom,
      7 I will send fire on the walls of Gaza
      that will consume her fortresses.
      8 I will destroy the king[d] of Ashdod
      and the one who holds the scepter in Ashkelon.
      I will turn my hand against Ekron,
      till the last of the Philistines are dead,”
      says the Sovereign Lord.
      ——————————–
      “Ashdod” is the fifth-largest city in Israel, located in the Southern District of the country. “Scepter in Ashkelon”: The ruler of Ashkelon: Ashkelon is a coastal city in the South District of Israel. The city of Ekron was one of the five cities of the famed Philistine pentapolis, located in southwestern Canaan. Ekron has been identified as modern Tel Miqne, which lies 35 kilometers west of Jerusalem, and 18 kilometers north of ancient Gath, on the eastern edge of Israel’s coastal plain. Edom/Edomites are the Romans (europeans) i.e. the descendant of Esau the Twine brother of Jacob (Peace be upon him). They are also called Banu Al Asfar (Yellow reddish people due to their hair or skin color)

    5. Amos 9-10
      9 “This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Tyre,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because she sold whole communities of captives to Edom,
      disregarding a treaty of brotherhood,
      10 I will send fire on the walls of Tyre
      that will consume her fortresses.”

      ————————————–
      Tyre is a city in the South Governorate of Lebanon.Southern Lebanon is a shia majority area.

    6. Amos 11-12
      11 “This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Edom,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because he pursued his brother with a sword
      and slaughtered the women of the land,
      because his anger raged continually
      and his fury flamed unchecked,
      12 I will send fire on Teman
      that will consume the fortresses of Bozrah.”

      ——————————
      Edom/Edomites are the Romans (Europeans) who are a descendant of Isaac (peace be upon him). He is Esau who was reddish yellow in his appearance. Teman, or Teiman, the Hebrew for Yemen, homeland of the Temani or Teimani, the Yemenite Jews. Bozrah is an ancient biblical city in southern modern-day Jordan. Bozrah was the capital city of Edom. According to the Old Testament, the city was the homeland of Jacob’s twin brother, Esau.

    7. Amos 13-15
      13 “This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Ammon,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because he ripped open the pregnant women of Gilead
      in order to extend his borders,
      14 I will set fire to the walls of Rabbah
      that will consume her fortresses
      amid war cries on the day of battle,
      amid violent winds on a stormy day.
      15 Her king[e] will go into exile,
      he and his officials together,”
      says the Lord ”
      ———————————
      Ammon/Ammonites and children of Ammon, was an ancient nation described in the Old Testament to be located east of the Jordan River, Gilead, and the Dead Sea, in present-day Jordan.”Rabbah ” the chief city and capital of the Ammonites, among the eastern hills, some 20 miles east of the Jordan

  2. CrossWinds Avatar

    Put your trust in Jesus, The Son of God, who knows the beginning from the end………God Bless…….

    ………“We can sense the beginning signs for the fulfillment of
    Isaiah 17′s destruction of Damascus when we witness the influx of refugees from
    Syria to Jordan as predicted by the prophet Amos: ‘I will break also the bar of
    Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that
    holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go
    into captivity unto Kir, saith the LORD’ (Amos 1:5),” “It is
    here that we find the amazing precision of Bible prophecy: Aven is Damascus
    today, and Damascus is also literally mentioned here by name. Syrians are
    leaving by the droves into Jordan and precisely ‘unto Kir,’ which is Kir-Moab
    (Isaiah 15:1). Today that region is called Kerak. When we review both the ancient
    map and the statistics of the recent influx of Syrian refugees into Jordan, we
    find that over a half million Syrians already fled to ‘the borders of the land
    of Moab now called Kerrek [Kerak].”………

    1. Isaiah 17 A Prophecy Against Damascus.17:1-6
      “See, Damascus will no longer be a city
      but will become a heap of ruins.
      2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
      and left to flocks, which will lie down,
      with no one to make them afraid.
      3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
      and royal power from Damascus;
      the remnant of Aram will be
      like the glory of the Israelites,”
      declares the Lord Almighty.

      4 “In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
      the fat of his body will waste away.
      5 It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
      gathering the grain in their arms—
      as when someone gleans heads of grain
      in the Valley of Rephaim.
      6 Yet some gleanings will remain,
      as when an olive tree is beaten,
      leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
      four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
      declares the Lord, the God of Israel”
      —————————————————-
      The fortified city and the royal power from Damascus will disappear.The glory of Jacob will fade; the fat of his body will waste away. the beating will be similar as the olive tree is beaten. We may read the following verse up to verse 14 for better understanding. Interesting point in the verse is “The glory of Jacob” . I can conclude that the Alawites are a branch of Israelite and could be one of many descendant of Reuben. Gog is also a descendant of Reuben.

      1. Our esteemed scholar (do not let it get to your head because I AM BEING SARCASTIC)

        In the Christian religion we closed the book of the Jews (Bible) as it is histories that ALREADY happened… Our ONLY book we do follow is the new testament which comprises the books of Luke, Matthew, Mark, and John, which talks about the life and parables and acts of Jesus. You need to know that the Bible is just a reference and not a prophecy. The bible prophesied about the coming of Jesus (incidentally never mentioned Mohammed)… It stopped there and then with the birth of Jesus. So quote all you want as it is irrelevant to us… The beginning of the age was with Jesus and his acts and ascension was the beginning of the end.

        Isaiah 7:14: Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. Immanuel (3amanu eel) which translates to Al-rabbu ma3akum…

        Psalm 2:7: I will proclaim the Lord’s decree:
        He said to me, “You are my son;
        today I have become your father.”

        Zechariah 12:10: “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

        Psalm 110:1: The Lord says to my lord:
        “Sit at my right hand
        until I make your enemies
        a footstool for your feet.”

        With the birth of Jesus we closed the bible and opened the New Testament as the last book until the End of Times.

        1. A Message About Elam (Present day Iran) in Jeremiah 49

          49:34 This is the word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet concerning Elam, early in the reign of Zedekiahking of Judah:

          35 This is what the Lord Almighty says:

          “See, I will break the bow of Elam,
          the mainstay of their might.
          36 I will bring against Elam the four winds
          from the four quarters of heaven;
          I will scatter them to the four winds,
          and there will not be a nation
          where Elam’s exiles do not go.
          37 I will shatter Elam before their foes,
          before those who want to kill them;
          I will bring disaster on them,
          even my fierce anger,”
          declares the Lord.
          “I will pursue them with the sword
          until I have made an end of them.
          38 I will set my throne in Elam
          and destroy her king and officials,”
          declares the Lord.

          39 “Yet I will restore the fortunes of Elam
          in days to come,”
          declares the Lord.”

        2. A Message About Edom i.e.The descendant of Esau. The Romans.Jeremiah 49

          49:7 Concerning Edom:

          This is what the Lord Almighty says:

          “Is there no longer wisdom in Teman?
          Has counsel perished from the prudent?
          Has their wisdom decayed?
          8 Turn and flee, hide in deep caves,
          you who live in Dedan,
          for I will bring disaster on Esau
          at the time when I punish him.
          9 If grape pickers came to you,
          would they not leave a few grapes?
          If thieves came during the night,
          would they not steal only as much as they wanted?
          10 But I will strip Esau bare;
          I will uncover his hiding places,
          so that he cannot conceal himself.
          His armed men are destroyed,
          also his allies and neighbors,
          so there is no one to say,
          11 ‘Leave your fatherless children; I will keep them alive.
          Your widows too can depend on me.’”

          12 This is what the Lord says: “If those who do not deserve to drink the cup must drink it, why should you go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, but must drink it. 13 I swear by myself,” declares the Lord, “that Bozrahwill become a ruin and a curse,[b] an object of horror and reproach; and all its towns will be in ruins forever.”

          14 I have heard a message from the Lord;
          an envoy was sent to the nations to say,
          “Assemble yourselves to attack it!
          Rise up for battle!”

          15 “Now I will make you small among the nations,
          despised by mankind.
          16 The terror you inspire
          and the pride of your heart have deceived you,
          you who live in the clefts of the rocks,
          who occupy the heights of the hill.
          Though you build your nest as high as the eagle’s,
          from there I will bring you down,”
          declares the Lord.
          17 “Edom will become an object of horror;
          all who pass by will be appalled and will scoff
          because of all its wounds.
          18 As Sodom and Gomorrah were overthrown,
          along with their neighboring towns,”
          says the Lord,
          “so no one will live there;
          no people will dwell in it.

          19 “Like a lion coming up from Jordan’s thickets
          to a rich pastureland,
          I will chase Edom from its land in an instant.
          Who is the chosen one I will appoint for this?
          Who is like me and who can challenge me?
          And what shepherd can stand against me?”

          20 Therefore, hear what the Lord has planned against Edom,
          what he has purposed against those who live in Teman:
          The young of the flock will be dragged away;
          their pasture will be appalled at their fate.
          21 At the sound of their fall the earth will tremble;
          their cry will resound to the Red Sea.[c]
          22 Look! An eagle will soar and swoop down,
          spreading its wings over Bozrah.
          In that day the hearts of Edom’s warriors
          will be like the heart of a woman in labor.”

    2. Amos 1:5. New International Version (NIV)
      5 ” I will break down the gate of Damascus;
      I will destroy the king who is in[a] the Valley of Aven[b]
      and the one who holds the scepter in Beth Eden.
      The people of Aram will go into exile to Kir,”
      says the Lord.”
      —————————-
      Footnotes:
      Amos 1:5 Or the inhabitants of
      Amos 1:5 Aven means wickedness.

      Does the prophesy talk about Bashar Al-Qaeda?

    3. Amos 3-5
      3 This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Damascus,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because she threshed Gilead
      with sledges having iron teeth,
      4 I will send fire on the house of Hazael
      that will consume the fortresses of Ben-Hadad.
      5 I will break down the gate of Damascus;
      I will destroy the king who is in[b] the Valley of Aven[c]
      and the one who holds the scepter in Beth Eden.
      The people of Aram will go into exile to Kir,”
      says the Lord.”

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      We need to read the whole prophesy. Quoting a prophesy “out of context” is a sin and it can have a entire different meaning.

    4. Amos 6-8
      6 This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Gaza,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because she took captive whole communities
      and sold them to Edom,
      7 I will send fire on the walls of Gaza
      that will consume her fortresses.
      8 I will destroy the king[d] of Ashdod
      and the one who holds the scepter in Ashkelon.
      I will turn my hand against Ekron,
      till the last of the Philistines are dead,”
      says the Sovereign Lord.
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      Edom/Edomites are the Romans (europeans) i.e. the descendant of Esau the Twine brother of Jacob (Peace be upon him). They are also called Banu Al Asfar (Yelloe reddish people due to their hair or skin color)

    5. Amos 9-10
      9 “This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Tyre,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because she sold whole communities of captives to Edom,
      disregarding a treaty of brotherhood,
      10 I will send fire on the walls of Tyre
      that will consume her fortresses.”

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      The sinners who ever they are will be punished for their crime if they do not repent and revert from the wrong doing.

    6. Amos 11-12
      11 “This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Edom,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because he pursued his brother with a sword
      and slaughtered the women of the land,
      because his anger raged continually
      and his fury flamed unchecked,
      12 I will send fire on Teman
      that will consume the fortresses of Bozrah.”

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      This is call the day of reckoning and it applies to the wrong doer. Edom/Edomites are the Romans who are a descendant of Isaac (peace be upon him). He is Esau who was reddish yellow in his appearance and the twine brother of Jacob (peace be upon him)

    7. Amos 13-15
      13 “This is what the Lord says:
      “For three sins of Ammon,
      even for four, I will not relent.
      Because he ripped open the pregnant women of Gilead
      in order to extend his borders,
      14 I will set fire to the walls of Rabbah
      that will consume her fortresses
      amid war cries on the day of battle,
      amid violent winds on a stormy day.
      15 Her king[e] will go into exile,
      he and his officials together,”
      says the Lord “

  3. Abu Umamah says that Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) said: ” There will be four Hudna (truces) between you and the Romans. The fourth (truce) will be mediated through a person who will be from the descendants of (Prophet) Aaron عليه السلام (or ” from the descendants of Heracles “according to Nuaim bin Hammad) and will be upheld for seven years. The people asked: ‘O Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم , who will be the Imam of the people at the time? ‘ He said: ‘( Nuaim bin Hammad mentions ‘The Mahdi ‘) He will be from my progeny and will be forty years of age. His face will be a shining star and he will have a small black spot on his right cheek. He will wear two Qutwaaniataan cloaks as if he is a man from the Israelites. He will reign for 20 years, extract the treasures, and conquer the cities of Shirk (Polytheism).” (Tabrani, Nuaim bin Hammad’sKitab Al-Fitan)
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    John McCain Traces Lineage Back To Charlemange; Claims The Holy Roman Crown.John McCain who claims that he is not just a descendant of the 13th century Scottish King Robert The Bruce, but also of the first Holy Roman Emperor and founder of modern Europe, the 9th century monarch Charlemagne.

    Dr Yaakov Wise at the University of Manchester has traced David Cameron’s ancestry traced right back to a famous Jewish scholar of the 16th century. It was always known that Cameron’s great-great-grandfather was the Jewish banker Emile Levita, who came to Britain as a German immigrant in the 1850s. Dr Wise has discovered that Emile Levita was himself a descendant of Elijah Levita, who lived from 1469-1549 .Levita is the Latin form of the name Levite, a Jew descended from the Tribe of Levi, the son of Jacob (peace be upon him) and one of the original twelve tribes of Israel.He said: ‘It is possible that Cameron is a direct descendant of Moses or, at least, a cousin.
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    “Qutwaaniataan cloaks” are popular among the Pushtuns (Lost tribe of Israel) in Afghanistan. The person here is referring to Al-Mahdi (The guided one). This is an event unfolding so it will take time to be materialized.I am just trying to see if there is any connection.Well, The treaty will be broken by the Romans and they will attack the Muslims later.

  4. John McCain And David Cameron are eager to defend the Syrian people against the Dictator.
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    Abu Umamah says that Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) said: ” There will be four Hudna (truces) between you and the Romans. The fourth (truce) will be mediated through a person who will be from the descendants of (Prophet) Aaron عليه السلام (or ” from the descendants of Heracles “according to Nuaim bin Hammad) and will be upheld for seven years. The people asked: ‘O Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم , who will be the Imam of the people at the time? ‘ He said: ‘( Nuaim bin Hammad mentions ‘The Mahdi ‘) He will be from my progeny and will be forty years of age. His face will be a shining star and he will have a small black spot on his right cheek. He will wear two Qutwaaniataan cloaks as if he is a man from the Israelites. He will reign for 20 years, extract the treasures, and conquer the cities of Shirk (Polytheism).” (Tabrani, Nuaim bin Hammad’sKitab Al-Fitan)

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    John McCain Traces Lineage Back To Charlemange; Claims The Holy Roman Crown.John McCain who claims that he is not just a descendant of the 13th century Scottish King Robert The Bruce, but also of the first Holy Roman Emperor and founder of modern Europe, the 9th century monarch Charlemagne.

    Dr Yaakov Wise at the University of Manchester has traced Cameron’s ancestry traced right back to a famous Jewish scholar of the 16th century. It was always known that Cameron’s great-great-grandfather was the Jewish banker Emile Levita, who came to Britain as a German immigrant in the 1850s. And now Dr Yaakov Wise at the University of Manchester has traced Cameron’s ancestry traced right back to a famous Jewish scholar of the 16th century.Dr Wise has discovered that Emile Levita was himself a descendant of Elijah Levita, who lived from 1469-1549 .Levita is the Latin form of the name Levite, a Jew descended from the Tribe of Levi, the son of Jacob and one of the original twelve tribes of Israel.He said: ‘It is possible that Cameron is a direct descendant of Moses or, at least, a cousin.‘The leader of the Levites at the time of the exodus from Egypt was Moses, who was married, with two sons named in the Bible.
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    I am just trying to see if there any connection.Well, The treaty will be broken by the Romans and they will attack the Muslims later.

  5. I don’t know You guys, But the Americans lost their brains and think that saying stupid lies will convince people, Being Myself Pro Lebanese, and MacCain being a fart of war like Oblabla makes Me think this guys and all those who believe in the Americans are brain fucked, and makes Me mad they think the whole world is as stupid as their sore ass.

  6. I don’t know You guys, But the Americans lost their brains and think that saying stupid lies will convince people, Being Myself Pro Lebanese, and MacCain being a fart of war like Oblabla makes Me think this guys and all those who believe in the Americans are brain fucked, and makes Me mad they think the whole world is as stupid as their sore ass.

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