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Death toll from north Lebanon fighting climbs to 10

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The death toll from fighting between Sunni Muslims and Alawites in Tripoli climbed to at least 10 overnight, medical sources said on Wednesday, in clashes that the city’s residents described as some of the heaviest since Lebanon’s civil war.

More than 100 people have been wounded in the fighting which erupted this week along a sectarian fault line between the Sunni district of Bab al-Tabbaneh and the Alawite area of Jebel Mohsen.

The sectarian tone of the fighting reflects the Syrian conflict that increasingly sets a mainly Sunni Muslim opposition against President Bashar al-Assad’s Alawite minority.

After a lull, Tripoli was rocked by some two dozen explosions between 2 a.m. and 6 a.m., apparently caused by rocket-propelled grenades, witnesses said. The fighters have also been using automatic machine guns.

The area is one of Lebanon’s most volatile and chronic Sunni-Alawite tensions spilled into clashes that killed 15 people in early June. At least 10 soldiers have been wounded in efforts to stop the violence, the army has said.

Reuters

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53 responses to “Death toll from north Lebanon fighting climbs to 10”

  1. Lebguy Avatar
    Lebguy

    Honestly what’s wrong with these guys. We are LEBANESE NOT SYRIANS you want to fight each other because of what’s happening in Syria GO FIGHT EACH OTHER IN SYRIA !!!! Stop messing up our country.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Happy thought, Lebguy … 🙁 
      Two packs of monkeys fighting over one tree. Everyone else suffers, but they don’t care.
      It’s a mental ‘block’ ….
      ‘My cause is more important than anyone else. Their homes, their health, their peace, their lives are not my problem. I will do what I want. I have a gun. Nothing else matters. It is a righteous cause and I will prove it by killing anyone who gets in the way.’

      1. breakthemould Avatar
        breakthemould

         This would make some sense if any of them HAD A CAUSE. By the way does any one know what are the causes? What is each one’s end game?Totally Alawite Lebanon, Totally Sunnis Syria. none can be we are different and we should celebrate the difference and dine over it.

        1. dateam Avatar
          dateam

          true…but when money flows people are bought and sold to do the dirty work…especially when there is poverty….we are not born to hate…..we are taught….whats even sadder especially in that area is that its probably not even hate its probably heres your pay go shoot….as stupid as it sounds thats probably the reality because when its over there they go back to normal business…..i mean think about it…about 30000 alawites they cant live without shopping in downtown tripoli can they?

  2. Lebguy Avatar
    Lebguy

    Honestly what’s wrong with these guys. We are LEBANESE NOT SYRIANS you want to fight each other because of what’s happening in Syria GO FIGHT EACH OTHER IN SYRIA !!!! Stop messing up our country.

  3. Lebguy Avatar
    Lebguy

    Honestly what’s wrong with these guys. We are LEBANESE NOT SYRIANS you want to fight each other because of what’s happening in Syria GO FIGHT EACH OTHER IN SYRIA !!!! Stop messing up our country.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Happy thought … 🙁 
      Two packs of monkeys fighting over one tree. Everyone else suffers, but they don’t care.

      1. breakthemould Avatar
        breakthemould

         This would make some sense if any of them HAD A CAUSE. By the way does any one know what are the causes? What is each one’s end game?Totally Alawite Lebanon, Totally Sunnis Syria. none can be we are different and we should celebrate the difference and dine over it.

        1. dateam Avatar
          dateam

          true…but when money flows people are bought and sold to do the dirty work…especially when there is poverty….we are not born to hate…..we are taught….whats even sadder especially in that area is that its probably not even hate its probably heres your pay go shoot….as stupid as it sounds thats probably the reality because when its over there they go back to normal business…..i mean think about it…about 30000 alawites they cant live without shopping in downtown tripoli can they?

  4. breakthemould Avatar
    breakthemould

    I would be much better if they made socks. Just like the Chinese or the Taiwanese. Then our balance of payment will improve and they can go and watch football in the weekends and spend the money on locally made wine. Dream again, do I hear you say. We are not far from the European Market and socks at the right price can be in demand in Europe. The Aleppo people started that practice minus the wine and the football, which are essential in my formula and that is why things went pear shaped eventually in Aleppo too.   By the way if we take this to extreme they can make socks in the churches and mosques if there are no available properties. We have enough religion to last us to our children and children’s children. Let us leave them money instead. And a simple code … Thy shall not kill each other!

  5. breakthemould Avatar
    breakthemould

    I would be much better if they made socks. Just like the Chinese or the Taiwanese. Then our balance of payment will improve and they can go and watch football in the weekends and spend the money on locally made wine. Dream again, do I hear you say. We are not far from the European Market and socks at the right price can be in demand in Europe. The Aleppo people started that practice minus the wine and the football, which are essential in my formula and that is why things went pear shaped eventually in Aleppo too.   By the way if we take this to extreme they can make socks in the churches and mosques if there are no available properties. We have enough religion to last us to our children and children’s children. Let us leave them money instead. And a simple code … Thy shall not kill each other!

  6. Omeriko Omeriko Avatar
    Omeriko Omeriko

    Lebanese- YOU HAVE to learn from the Israeli experience, despite whatever you think about Israel. 

    The presence of armed militias is a disaster for any country. Israel’s first PM Ben Gurion learned from the tragedy of Irish civil war after their independence from the UK, and he dismantled all of the Jewish and Druze militias – Hagana / Palmah, Ezel/Irgun or Lehi. He had to bomb the Ezel cargo ship Altalena to prevent one radical Jewish organization have his own weapons. Some say Ezel or Lehi were Jewish equivalents of Hizbullah, they were considered terrorists by the UK and many were caught and killed by the British before 1948. 

    Eventually all of those militias became purely political parties, totally unarmed. Hagana was the basis of Labour, Ezel/Lehi was the basis of Likud, some descendents of Ezel/Lehi leaders like Ehud Olmert or Zipi Livni became moderate politicians . 

    The continuation of ethnic or religious militias in Lebanon hurts everybody – including the Shiites. I do believe that if Lebanon was dismantling it’s militias, the next step could be peace with Israel, and even those who fought against Israel would have the chance to enter Israel as tourists, workers or businessmen. Just like ex-Ezel could come to the UK. But maybe some Lebanese just thrive on a never-ending civil-tensions inside Lebanon and never-ending hostilities towards Israel.

    1. Patience2 Avatar
      Patience2

       Could it be possible for the clean-living, ‘ordinary’ Lebanese to learn by observing the Israeli experience?  At least, down there they have a ‘fairly’ smooth-running government — seems to get things done, once-in-awhile!
      You’ll notice I exclude ‘foreign-invaders’ that occupy many places in the Leb.

      1. Marwan Kassem Avatar
        Marwan Kassem

        you should shutup. not one of your posts is relevant.

        1. yalibnan Avatar
          yalibnan

          This  is to remind you  that we welcome comments  but you have to  respect the community. Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

        2. Moe2000 Avatar
          Moe2000

          @yalibnan:disqus  I do not believe @google-b83c572d92ae363a82e8d61a16084a08:disqus  insulted @Patience2:disqus  he just stated that he should not “troll” and post irrelevant comments.

        3. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Freedom of speech at its nadir… Mirror image from Arab despots…

    2. breakthemould Avatar
      breakthemould

       Begin & Shamir were the ultimate supremo terrorists wanted by the British for killing British soldiers in numerous actions including executions and bombing of King David Hotel in Jerusalem, but  went on to become prime ministers of Israel and have tea with the Queen in latter years. When one tells such stories it is honest to tell it all. Forgive me for pointing this out as I did not think it was right to single out the Ezel without mentioning the champion terrorists Israel is famed for amongst many they have had and still have operating without the encouragement of the authorities. Ehud Barak came to Beirut dressed as a woman and went on to apartment blocks and shot numerous people including a famed Palestinian politician whose words he did not like shooting him in the mouth. Later he was voted in to be prime minister of “peace loving democratic” Israel.

      1. Omeriko Omeriko Avatar
        Omeriko Omeriko

        Yes- Shamir and Begin were responsible for the death of several British soldiers (not many) and for several terror acts . However they did not target British civilians. The majority of the Jews were Hagana members, a secular socialist movement that usually cooperated with the British and was even trained by some British officers like Ord Wingate. Hagana members fought under British flag in Europe against the Nazis.

        In any case- what you said proves my theory – Even well known resistance fighters – or terrorists (depends on who you ask) , and their descendents, may become ordinary political leaders and even lead their countries to peace treaties. But such organizations should have the will to become political parties and give their weapons to the central army. 

        1. breakthemould Avatar
          breakthemould

           One is bound to say not British civilians but Arab civilians? otherwise who killed in Deir Yasin? Hagana or Stern or who? Who killed worshipers in the mosque in Hebron and got rewarded by having a statue built for him. There must be an organization in support who has the desire for the statue and the continuation of this hate manufacturing. It is just put in a more subtle way than the Arab way but is just as bad if not worse. As to giving weapons to the army this was done after insuring that the state’s army will continue to commit the same crime on a larger scale including innocent civilians with regrets issued after by who ever from the cabinet stands to face the western media.  It is all bad and very wrong to make out that one is better than the other. Terrorism is bad and there is no such a thing as a bad terrorist and a good terrorist. I dare say that the earlier terrorists of the 40’s gave us this culture in the middle east and planted the world we live in now. I am willing to admit that the European (German in particular) treatment of Jews propelled them into terrorism. So, blame them too.

    3. Leborigine Avatar
      Leborigine

      @Moe2000:disqus Can you please tell me what is so irrelevant in @Patience2:disqus  comment besides replying his personal opinion to Omeriko?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Maybe we can’t use ‘Shutup’ ?? Auto-bots at work … 😉

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Maybe we can’t use ‘Shutup’ ?? Auto-bots at work … 😉

    4. Michael Snowden Avatar
      Michael Snowden

      Don’t listen to this nutcase (Omeriko Omeriko) look  at  Iraq, Syria, Egypt. This is how  problems  should  be
      solved . The enemy must be destroyed till they do not want to fight. There is no room for so many religions
      in a small country like Lebanon, the non belivers must know their place.True victory is priceless ,no matter
      the cost to Lebanon. Fight to the last Lebanese if you have to. 

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Ok … Everyone who wants to commit suicide line up on the left … no need to fight for a space … Michael has a little cup for you to drink, and we’ll guarantee a sign over your grave that says ‘martyr to a fighting cause’ … if you wish.

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          Is there space enough for all the israHELLis? apparently they too want to commit suicide by bombing iran..

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Ok … Everyone who wants to commit suicide line up on the left … no need to fight for a space … Michael has a little cup for you to drink, and we’ll guarantee a sign over your grave that says ‘martyr to a fighting cause’ … if you wish.

      3. rossoferrari Avatar
        rossoferrari

        Sooooooooooooooooooo many enemies, which one are you talking about!!! You have the enemy from within: sunni/sunni, shia/shia, xian/xian,druze/druze, palestinians/palestinians…..then you have syrians against syrians against lebanese,  israelis against lebanese, syrians and the rest of the arab world, hamas/PLO.. where to stop I do not know. Its seems that there are so many enemies that it is hard to define who are the enemies when every two or three people form a clan and then they claim that they have a military branch, then you have zuballah, amal, kataeb, ahrar, koumieh, istirakiah, baathieh, takadomieh, nassrieh, joumhourieh……………So tell  me who is your enemy and who do you want to shoot at. Per your statement, might as well commit suicide

      4. rossoferrari Avatar
        rossoferrari

        Sooooooooooooooooooo many enemies, which one are you talking about!!! You have the enemy from within: sunni/sunni, shia/shia, xian/xian,druze/druze, palestinians/palestinians…..then you have syrians against syrians against lebanese,  israelis against lebanese, syrians and the rest of the arab world, hamas/PLO.. where to stop I do not know. Its seems that there are so many enemies that it is hard to define who are the enemies when every two or three people form a clan and then they claim that they have a military branch, then you have zuballah, amal, kataeb, ahrar, koumieh, istirakiah, baathieh, takadomieh, nassrieh, joumhourieh……………So tell  me who is your enemy and who do you want to shoot at. Per your statement, might as well commit suicide

  7. Omeriko Omeriko Avatar
    Omeriko Omeriko

    Lebanese- YOU HAVE to learn from the Israeli experience, despite whatever you think about Israel. 

    The presence of armed militias is a disaster for any country. Israel’s first PM Ben Gurion learned from the tragedy of Irish civil war after their independence from the UK, and he dismantled all of the Jewish and Druze militias – Hagana / Palmah, Ezel/Irgun or Lehi. He had to bomb the Ezel cargo ship Altalena to prevent one radical Jewish organization have his own weapons. Some say Ezel or Lehi were Jewish equivalents of Hizbullah, they were considered terrorists by the UK and many were caught and killed by the British before 1948. 

    Eventually all of those militias became purely political parties, totally unarmed. Hagana was the basis of Labour, Ezel/Lehi was the basis of Likud, some descendents of Ezel/Lehi leaders like Ehud Olmert or Zipi Livni became moderate politicians . 

    The continuation of ethnic or religious militias in Lebanon hurts everybody – including the Shiites. I do believe that if Lebanon was dismantling it’s militias, the next step could be peace with Israel, and even those who fought against Israel would have the chance to enter Israel as tourists, workers or businessmen. Just like ex-Ezel could come to the UK. But maybe some Lebanese just thrive on a never-ending civil-tensions inside Lebanon and never-ending hostilities towards Israel.

    1. Patience2 Avatar
      Patience2

       Could it be possible for the clean-living, ‘ordinary’ Lebanese to learn by observing the Israeli experience?  At least, down there they have a ‘fairly’ smooth-running government — seems to get things done, once-in-awhile!
      You’ll notice I exclude ‘foreign-invaders’ that occupy many places in the Leb.

      1. Marwan Kassem Avatar
        Marwan Kassem

        you should shutup. not one of your posts is relevant.

        1. yalibnan Avatar
          yalibnan

          This  is to remind you  that we welcome comments  but you have to  respect the community. Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

        2. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Freedom of speech at its nadir… Mirror image from Arab despots…

    2. breakthemould Avatar
      breakthemould

       Begin & Shamir were the ultimate supremo terrorists wanted by the British for killing British soldiers in numerous actions including executions and bombing of King David Hotel in Jerusalem, but  went on to become prime ministers of Israel and have tea with the Queen in latter years. When one tells such stories it is honest to tell it all. Forgive me for pointing this out as I did not think it was right to single out the Ezel without mentioning the champion terrorists Israel is famed for amongst many they have had and still have operating without the encouragement of the authorities. Ehud Barak came to Beirut dressed as a woman and went on to apartment blocks and shot numerous people including a famed Palestinian politician whose words he did not like shooting him in the mouth. Later he was voted in to be prime minister of “peace loving democratic” Israel.

  8. Omeriko Omeriko Avatar
    Omeriko Omeriko

    Lebanese- YOU HAVE to learn from the Israeli experience, despite whatever you think about Israel. 

    The presence of armed militias is a disaster for any country. Israel’s first PM Ben Gurion learned from the tragedy of Irish civil war after their independence from the UK, and he dismantled all of the Jewish and Druze militias – Hagana / Palmah, Ezel/Irgun or Lehi. He had to bomb the Ezel cargo ship Altalena to prevent one radical Jewish organization have his own weapons. Some say Ezel or Lehi were Jewish equivalents of Hizbullah, they were considered terrorists by the UK and many were caught and killed by the British before 1948. 

    Eventually all of those militias became purely political parties, totally unarmed. Hagana was the basis of Labour, Ezel/Lehi was the basis of Likud, some descendents of Ezel/Lehi leaders like Ehud Olmert or Zipi Livni became moderate politicians . 

    The continuation of ethnic or religious militias in Lebanon hurts everybody – including the Shiites. I do believe that if Lebanon was dismantling it’s militias, the next step could be peace with Israel, and even those who fought against Israel would have the chance to enter Israel as tourists, workers or businessmen. Just like ex-Ezel could come to the UK. But maybe some Lebanese just thrive on a never-ending civil-tensions inside Lebanon and never-ending hostilities towards Israel.

    1. Patience2 Avatar
      Patience2

       Could it be possible for the clean-living, ‘ordinary’ Lebanese to learn by observing the Israeli experience?  At least, down there they have a ‘fairly’ smooth-running government — seems to get things done, once-in-awhile!
      You’ll notice I exclude ‘foreign-invaders’ that occupy many places in the Leb.

      1. Marwan Kassem Avatar
        Marwan Kassem

        you should shutup. not one of your posts is relevant.

        1. yalibnan Avatar
          yalibnan

          This  is to remind you  that we welcome comments  but you have to  respect the community. Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

        2. Moe2000 Avatar
          Moe2000

          @yalibnan:disqus  I do not believe @google-b83c572d92ae363a82e8d61a16084a08:disqus  insulted @Patience2:disqus  he just stated that he should not “troll” and post irrelevant comments.

        3. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Freedom of speech at its nadir… Mirror image from Arab despots…

    2. breakthemould Avatar
      breakthemould

       Begin & Shamir were the ultimate supremo terrorists wanted by the British for killing British soldiers in numerous actions including executions and bombing of King David Hotel in Jerusalem, but  went on to become prime ministers of Israel and have tea with the Queen in latter years. When one tells such stories it is honest to tell it all. Forgive me for pointing this out as I did not think it was right to single out the Ezel without mentioning the champion terrorists Israel is famed for amongst many they have had and still have operating without the encouragement of the authorities. Ehud Barak came to Beirut dressed as a woman and went on to apartment blocks and shot numerous people including a famed Palestinian politician whose words he did not like shooting him in the mouth. Later he was voted in to be prime minister of “peace loving democratic” Israel.

      1. Omeriko Omeriko Avatar
        Omeriko Omeriko

        Yes- Shamir and Begin were responsible for the death of several British soldiers (not many) and for several terror acts . However they did not target British civilians. The majority of the Jews were Hagana members, a secular socialist movement that usually cooperated with the British and was even trained by some British officers like Ord Wingate. Hagana members fought under British flag in Europe against the Nazis.

        In any case- what you said proves my theory – Even well known resistance fighters – or terrorists (depends on who you ask) , and their descendents, may become ordinary political leaders and even lead their countries to peace treaties. But such organizations should have the will to become political parties and give their weapons to the central army. 

        1. breakthemould Avatar
          breakthemould

           One is bound to say not British civilians but Arab civilians? otherwise who killed in Deir Yasin? Hagana or Stern or who? Who killed worshipers in the mosque in Hebron and got rewarded by having a statue built for him. There must be an organization in support who has the desire for the statue and the continuation of this hate manufacturing. It is just put in a more subtle way than the Arab way but is just as bad if not worse. As to giving weapons to the army this was done after insuring that the state’s army will continue to commit the same crime on a larger scale including innocent civilians with regrets issued after by who ever from the cabinet stands to face the western media.  It is all bad and very wrong to make out that one is better than the other. Terrorism is bad and there is no such a thing as a bad terrorist and a good terrorist. I dare say that the earlier terrorists of the 40’s gave us this culture in the middle east and planted the world we live in now. I am willing to admit that the European (German in particular) treatment of Jews propelled them into terrorism. So, blame them too.

    3. Leborigine Avatar
      Leborigine

      @Moe2000:disqus Can you please tell me what is so irrelevant in @Patience2:disqus  comment besides replying his personal opinion to Omeriko?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Maybe we can’t use ‘Shutup’ ?? Auto-bots at work … 😉

    4. Michael Snowden Avatar
      Michael Snowden

      Don’t listen to this nutcase (Omeriko Omeriko) look  at  Iraq, Syria, Egypt. This is how  problems  should  be
      solved . The enemy must be destroyed till they do not want to fight. There is no room for so many religions
      in a small country like Lebanon, the non belivers must know their place.True victory is priceless ,no matter
      the cost to Lebanon. Fight to the last Lebanese if you have to. 

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Ok … Everyone who wants to commit suicide line up on the left … no need to fight for a space … Michael has a little cup for you to drink, and we’ll guarantee a sign over your grave that says ‘martyr to a fighting cause’ … if you wish.

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          Is there space enough for all the israHELLis? apparently they too want to commit suicide by bombing iran..

      2. rossoferrari Avatar
        rossoferrari

        Sooooooooooooooooooo many enemies, which one are you talking about!!! You have the enemy from within: sunni/sunni, shia/shia, xian/xian,druze/druze, palestinians/palestinians…..then you have syrians against syrians against lebanese,  israelis against lebanese, syrians and the rest of the arab world, hamas/PLO.. where to stop I do not know. Its seems that there are so many enemies that it is hard to define who are the enemies when every two or three people form a clan and then they claim that they have a military branch, then you have zuballah, amal, kataeb, ahrar, koumieh, istirakiah, baathieh, takadomieh, nassrieh, joumhourieh……………So tell  me who is your enemy and who do you want to shoot at. Per your statement, might as well commit suicide

  9. Fauzia45 Avatar
    Fauzia45

    ¨ The  better to keep their thrones and ease of mind did they arm the Druse against the Arab and stir up the Shiite against the Sunnite and encourage the Kurd to slaughter the Bedoin and put Moslem to dispute with Christian.Until when will brother continue to slay brother,¨¨,,??Khalil Gibran 

  10. Fauzia45 Avatar
    Fauzia45

    ¨ The  better to keep their thrones and ease of mind did they arm the Druse against the Arab and stir up the Shiite against the Sunnite and encourage the Kurd to slaughter the Bedoin and put Moslem to dispute with Christian.Until when will brother continue to slay brother,¨¨,,??Khalil Gibran 

  11. Fauzia45 Avatar
    Fauzia45

    ¨ The  better to keep their thrones and ease of mind did they arm the Druse against the Arab and stir up the Shiite against the Sunnite and encourage the Kurd to slaughter the Bedoin and put Moslem to dispute with Christian.Until when will brother continue to slay brother,¨¨,,??Khalil Gibran 

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