Ya Libnan

STL publishes indictment in 2005 Hariri murder

Share:

The UN-backed tribunal investigating the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri said Tuesday it had published the full indictment.

“The pre-trial judge has ordered that his decision confirming the indictment related to the February 14, 2005 attack, as well as the indictment itself, be made public,” the Special Tribunal for Lebanon said, in order to “proceed to trial.”

The publication Wednesday comes after the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) said last week that Lebanese authorities had been unable to arrest the four suspects or serve them with their indictments, according to The Associated Press.

They are accused of detonating the truck bomb on February 14, 2005, that killed Hariri and 22 others–a number that includes a suicide bomber.

STL Prosecutor Daniel Bellemare, in a separate statement, welcomed making the indictment public.

“This Order will finally inform the public and the victims about the facts alleged in the indictment regarding the commission of the crime that led to charging the four accused,” Mr. Bellemare said. “This unsealing of the indictment answers many questions about the 14 February 2005 attack. The full story will however only unfold in the courtroom, where an open, public, fair and transparent trial will render a final verdict.”

Lebanon’s Shiite armed group Hezbollah has denied involvement in the assassination and said it will never turn over the suspects.

Judge Daniel Fransen last month ordered confidentiality around the names and charges against Salim Ayyash, 47, Mustafa Badreddine, 50, Hussein Anaissi, 37 and Assad Sabra, 34, be partially dropped.

Ayyash and Badreddine face charges of “committing a terrorist act by means of an explosive device” and homicide, while Anaissi and Sabra faced charges of conspiring to commit the same acts.

Al Arabiya

Share:

Comments

99 responses to “STL publishes indictment in 2005 Hariri murder”

  1. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    LETS GO!!!
    I HAVE AGED AND MY HAIR HAS ABANDONED SHIP WAITING!
     PUT IT ON THE PLATE
    WHAT DO YOU GOT?
    SHOULD I PUT M SEATBELT ON?
    IS IT REALLY SPICY?

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Only 7 years, geo … 😉
      Trial still to come.

    2. Kobi Avatar
      Kobi

       I have been waiting too…….I will have to read a copy of it.  I read a few lines of it, admitting that these four worked with others to execute it.

    3. Kobi Avatar
      Kobi

       I have been waiting too…….I will have to read a copy of it.  I read a few lines of it, admitting that these four worked with others to execute it.

  2. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    LETS GO!!!
    I HAVE AGED AND MY HAIR HAS ABANDONED SHIP WAITING!
     PUT IT ON THE PLATE
    WHAT DO YOU GOT?
    SHOULD I PUT M SEATBELT ON?
    IS IT REALLY SPICY?

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Only 7 years, geo … 😉

    2. Kobi Avatar
      Kobi

       I have been waiting too…….I will have to read a copy of it.  I read a few lines of it, admitting that these four worked with others to execute it.

  3. Patience2 Avatar
    Patience2

    Where can I find this indictment, I’d like to read it?

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Go to tayyar website, it is  all there.

      1. Patience2 Avatar
        Patience2

        Thanks.

    2. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Go to tayyar website, it is  all there.

      1. Patience2 Avatar
        Patience2

        Thanks.

  4. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Where can I find this indictment, I’d like to read it?

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Go to tayyar website, it is  all there.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Thanks.

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Thanks.

      3. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Thanks.

    2. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Go to tayyar website, it is  all there.

  5. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Where can I find this indictment, I’d like to read it?

  6. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Where can I find this indictment, I’d like to read it?

  7. Fadi81 Avatar
    Fadi81

    Ah yes…as we have always believed and said…HA and the Syrians are behind Hariri’s death, question is how far did the infiltration go? how many more terrorist dogs are running loose? those who continue to blindly support terrorist dogs should be ashamed of themselves…Lubnan w BASS!

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Ah yes…as we have always believed and said…HA and the Syrians are behind Hariri’s death, question is how far did the infiltration go? how many more terrorist dogs are running loose? those who continue to blindly support terrorist dogs should be ashamed of themselves…Lubnan w BASS!

  9. 2160John Avatar
    2160John

    LMAO. What a load of bullsh*t. Hariri was assassinated from the sky.  It was Death from Above. Look at the crater and ask any expert in the Air Force.

    1. Beiruti Avatar
      Beiruti

      Facts from a donkeys ass look more realistic, literally. 1,000 kg of TNT were detonated as his motorcade drove near the St. George Hotel in Beirut. In 1983, the 5,400 kg of TNT used in the American Barracks Bombings made my apartment shake a little bit and i lived pretty far from the explosion site, when i looked out my window i thought a nuke hit Beirut, seeing the huge mushroom cloud. For the Hariri assassination, the explosion was 1/5 of the American Barrack Bombings, you honestly think 1000 kg isn’t enough to make a crater? You’re a joke. 

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Yah … maybe Allah pointed a bony finger and lightning struck … justice from above in some minds.

    3. master09 Avatar
      master09

      WOW thats all I can say………I can’t rite anything cause I  laugh so hard at the xcuses you people come up with, you sound like hasan nasrallah.

  10. Avatar
    Anonymous

    LMAO. What a load of bullsh*t. Hariri was assassinated from the sky.  It was Death from Above. Look at the crater and ask any expert in the Air Force.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Facts from a donkeys ass look more realistic, literally. 1,000 kg of TNT were detonated as his motorcade drove near the St. George Hotel in Beirut. In 1983, the 5,400 kg of TNT used in the American Barracks Bombings made my apartment shake a little bit and i lived pretty far from the explosion site, when i looked out my window i thought a nuke hit Beirut, seeing the huge mushroom cloud. For the Hariri assassination, the explosion was 1/5 of the American Barrack Bombings, you honestly think 1000 kg isn’t enough to make a crater? You’re a joke. 

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Yah … maybe Allah pointed a bony finger and lightning struck … justice from above in some minds.

    3. Avatar
      Anonymous

      WOW thats all I can say………I can’t rite anything cause I  laugh so hard at the xcuses you people come up with, you sound like hasan nasrallah.

  11. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    After reading A copy of the indictment on other  sites, I came to the  conclusion that  this  whole international investigation  was  not  warranted  at  all. Three different  prosecutors, hundreds of  employees and  detectives, millions  and millions of  dollars, years of waiting, hundreds of  interviews, people jailed for no  reason, others loosing  their  jobs, and tens of innocent  Lebanese  dead  because of  sectarian  tensions, and Mr. Bellemare  publishes an indictment  that Lebanese  authorities  could  have  done  on  their  own.
    Everything  in  this indictment  is  the result of the work of  Lebanese  officer who was murdered   .
    The  whole  indictment  is  based on  communication data that  Wissam  Hassan had  worked on and  concluded in  2006. Even the  Mitsubishi truck was traced by  Lebanese authorities .
    I’m not  a lawyer, but  Bellemare himself stated that  all of  his  evidence is circumstantial  evidence. More than once, Bellmare uses the term  “reasonable  to  conclude” what the  callers  said  to  each  other” or “ reasonable  to  conclude” that  during  a specific phone call, accused  X ordered  accused  Y to” do so and  so. Great conclusions there!! How can it  be  reasonable  to assume what  someone said  based  on  call logs?
    Can anyone  explain  to  us  what  took them  so long  to  come up  with  this  conclusion which  had  already been  reached? Wasn’t this  data dismissed at  the beginning  of the investigation by the  first  two investigator?
    What did they  spend  all of these millions  on? Is that  all  He’s gotten?
    Why was  this  data  dismissed ? and why  was it  found  to be  of  good  value   after  many  years of  investigations? No one  can  answer  that.
    Didn’t  we  all read  this indictment years  ago  in  media leaks,? Secrecy for the sake of truth!!! Professionalism for  sure. How pathetic are these people.
     In  his  indictment, He  blocks  phone  numbers  which  were  published  by  many  media outlets . secrecy at  its  best !!
    If this is  all Bellmare  has,  it  proves that  there was no  need for  an  international  body to investigate this  crime, and that  Lebanese  were  more than  capable  of  doing  the   job  on  their  own.
    I was expecting some beef, but I only found Bones. I was expecting  some indictment which  would repair the credibility  of the STL, and that of Mr. Bellemare, but  instead we  got a refined copy  of what  Canadian and German  media published, with bellow  standard editing.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Yes … all true I suppose … including the well-investigated phone links which, even if considered circumstantial, are significant enough to begin a trial. But you know why it became this huge thing holding Lebanon hostage for 7 years and now into the future. No-one in Lebanon wished to take it on. Especially when more deaths came to those who investigated. Judges ran in fear. The whole concept of justice is warped … not respected by anyone … and it’s impossible to find truth in Lebanon, except in the rough truths of day-to-day living on each little street where justice is meeted out by little corner bullies and everyone wishes blindly for the daily light-bulb to work, some clean water to drink, and a loaf of bread to fall from heaven.
      And now, the fear is palpable …. no thanks to Syria as well.

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Yes … all true I suppose … including the well-investigated phone links which, even if considered circumstantial, are significant enough to begin a trial. But you know why it became this huge thing holding Lebanon hostage for 7 years and now into the future. No-one in Lebanon wished to take it on. Especially when more deaths came to those who investigated. Judges ran in fear. The whole concept of justice is warped … not respected by anyone … and it’s impossible to find truth in Lebanon, except in the rough truths of day-to-day living on each little street where justice is meeted out by little corner bullies and everyone wishes blindly for the daily light-bulb to work, some clean water to drink, and a loaf of bread to fall from heaven.
      And now, the fear is palpable …. no thanks to Syria as well.

    3. libnan1 Avatar
      libnan1

      The STL costed every single Lebanese money they did not have, indebted the country for generations to come. History will judge the Hariri gang for what they have done to Lebanon.
      1. Hariri Sr. (God bless his soul) fueled the war in the 80’s with Saudi $. He paid every single MP to vote for the Taif accord which was the most destructive thing to Lebanon. I strongly believe that was what caused his demise.
      2. He courted and paid the Syrians to give the Salafite more power in Lebanon.
      3. He instigated the war between the Lebanese army and LF.
      4. He went to the Christians (patriarch Sfier) for shelter after the Syrians kicked him out of Damascus. 

      Then Jr. came along trying to finish Lebanon so he can get couple of people talking on the phone……!!!! He spent 5 years in power engulfed by the STL and ignored every need of the ordinary Lebanese. I think the 4 indited should show up to the court and see what the hell they have against them, NOTHING. There are no evidence that they did anything except talking on the phone the day of the explosion.

      Jr., it is much bigger plot than you can imagine. Sr. was not as innocent as you might think. Let it go before the real truth comes out, after that you might need to get a visa signed by Aoun in order for you to come back to Lebanon. 

      1. geo metro Avatar
        geo metro

        i am curious about these  acusations, can you back it up?

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          Probably not …

        2. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          These are not accusations, they are facts that happened. It’s a know fact that he paid every MP $1 Million to sign on to the Taif accord. He asked Geagea to get Aoun out and unfortunately Geagea listened to him and promised him to do so. That war was the biggest mistake Geagea and Aoun for the matter ever committed.
          Patriarch Sfeir was ignored by Hariri throughout the 90’s. Sfeir complained about the treatment of the Christians by the government from appointments to the reconstruction in Christian areas.
          I encourage you to go back and listen to Sfeir’s sermons from the 90’s.      

        3. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          The English translation of the Tayyar in simple terms: GLORY of Lebanon, SAVIOR of Lebanon.

        4. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          geo, Here is a link to the official text of the indictment.
          http://qifanabki.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/stl-indictment.pdf

      2. geo metro Avatar
        geo metro

        i am curious about these  acusations, can you back it up?

    4. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      you have to understand an important point or two:
      1- what has been released is NOT the whole thing yet
      2- the intentional obstruction of STL by HA and others who did not want it in the first place, has contributed in the length of time its course is taking…hence intention to decieve the investigation by “abou 3abss”.
      3- it will costs a lot of money because theses are not ordinary local judges, prosectuers and lawyers..those we used to in the lebanese judicial system.

      at the end of the day, this STL is much much better alternative to the stinking, hypocritical judicial system where its members including judges take bribes here and there and if they refuse they are murdered!…

      give me international tribunal anytime!

      1. AusLeb Avatar
        AusLeb

        I absolutely agree! There is no way it will get anywhere or have real justice if this was done only in Lebanon, we need people on the outside to drive this… people inside the country are all far too busy putting up rockets on hills!

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        Antar,5th drawer,
        I’m not making a judgment on the evidence bellemare presented in his indictment. I will leave that task to those who are trained as lawyers to do so. But with my limited knowledge, I doubt that the scenario presented by Bellemare would stand in court, and I would hold final judgment until further evidence.
        I not sure why present a partial indictment with partial evidence either, unless it is part of a political strategy.
        But I find it hard to believe that so much time wasted, and the end result is what was discovered during the first year of the investigations by Lebanese authorities.
        All the doubts that people had about the STL have been justified but the release of this indictment.
        All the leaks ,when secrecy was supposed to be one of the most important elements of the investigation, has tainted the integrity of the whole process, especially when these leaks turned out to be factual information instead of media speculations as Mr. Bellemare said on more than one occasion.
        My conclusion is that all leaks were done intentionally for political reasons, when the process was not supposed to politicized. So the politicization of the process raises more doubts now than it did before. Bellemare failed to present a credible indictment, failed to repair the credibility of his process, and failed to illuminate doubts about himself and in the eyes of the those who are skeptical.
        Whether the evidence is true or not, the result is a tainted investigation with tainted results. More questions than answers, as if it is meant to doom the Lebanese people with divisive issue to deal with for years to come.

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          it is tainted according to those who already thought it was politicised before the recent release.

          there must be a reason for the partial release and we will find out later on. i can think of one reason, an obvious one, and if you thought really hard about it you would find one too but you cannot because you already have your misconceptions abotu the STL.

          we simply cannot complain and doubt each step the STL before the trial begins and before everything else is laid on the table. it is only idiotic for bellmare to lay everything on the table before the capture of the accused….and their bosses…and before the trial actually begins. hold on a few more months perhaps weeks and will know everything indeed.

          your stance only stresses that unfortunately you have bought baseless m8 propaganda about the STL, something is not suprising because many lebanese take your stance even if it does not mean the correct one.

    5. geo metro Avatar
      geo metro

      is there an english translation on tayyar, i could not find it(cant read arabic 🙁 )

  12. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    After reading the  indictment on other  sites, I came to the  conclusion that  this  whole international investigation  was  not  warranted  at  all. Three different  prosecutors, hundreds of  employees and  detectives, millions  and millions of  dollars, years of waiting, hundreds of  interviews, people jailed for no  reason, others loosing  their  jobs, and tens of innocent  Lebanese  dead  because of  sectarian  tensions, and Mr. Bellemare  publishes an indictment  that Lebanese  authorities  could  have  done  on  their  own.
    Everything  in  this indictment  is  the result of the work of  Lebanese  officer who was murdered   .
    The  whole  indictment  is  based on  communication data that  Wissam  Hassan had  worked on and  concluded in  2006. Even the  Mitsubishi truck was traced by  Lebanese authorities .
    I’m not  a lawyer, but  Bellemare himself stated that  all of  his  evidence is circumstantial  evidence. More than once, Bellmare uses the term  “reasonable  to  conclude” what the  callers  said  to  each  other” or “ reasonable  to  conclude” that  during  a specific phone call, accused  X ordered  accused  Y to” do so and  so. Great conclusions there!! How can it  be  reasonable  to assume what  someone said  based  on  call logs?
    Can anyone  explain  to  us  what  took them  so long  to  come up  with  this  conclusion which  had  already been  reached? Wasn’t this  data dismissed at  the beginning  of the investigation by the  first  two investigator?
    What did they  spend  all of these millions  on? Is that  all  He’s gotten?
    Why was  this  data  dismissed ? and why  was it  found  to be  of  good  value   after  many  years of  investigations? No one  can  answer  that.
    Didn’t  we  all read  this indictment years  ago  in  media leaks,? Secrecy for the sake of truth!!! Professionalism for  sure. How pathetic are these people.
     In  his  indictment, He  blocks  phone  numbers  which  were  published  by  many  media outlets . secrecy at  its  best !!
    If this is  all Bellmare  has,  it  proves that  there was no  need for  an  international  body to investigate this  crime, and that  Lebanese  were  more than  capable  of  doing  the   job  on  their  own.
    I was expecting some beef, but I only found Bones. I was expecting  some indictment which  would repair the credibility  of the STL, and that of Mr. Bellemare, but  instead we  got a refined copy  of what  Canadian and German  media published, with bellow  standard editing.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Yes … all true I suppose … including the well-investigated phone links which, even if considered circumstantial, are significant enough to begin a trial. But you know why it became this huge thing holding Lebanon hostage for 7 years and now into the future. No-one in Lebanon wished to take it on. Especially when more deaths came to those who investigated. Judges ran in fear. The whole concept of justice is warped … not respected by anyone … and it’s impossible to find truth in Lebanon, except in the rough truths of day-to-day living on each little street where justice is meeted out by little corner bullies and everyone wishes blindly for the daily light-bulb to work, some clean water to drink, and a loaf of bread to fall from heaven.
      And now, the fear is palpable ….

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      The STL costed every single Lebanese money they did not have, indebted the country for generations to come. History will judge the Hariri gang for what they have done to Lebanon.
      1. Hariri Sr. (God bless his soul) fueled the war in the 80’s with Saudi $. He paid every single MP to vote for the Taif accord which was the most destructive thing to Lebanon. I strongly believe that was what caused his demise.
      2. He courted and paid the Syrians to give the Salafite more power in Lebanon.
      3. He instigated the war between the Lebanese army and LF.
      4. He went to the Christians (patriarch Sfier) for shelter after the Syrians kicked him out of Damascus. 

      Then Jr. came along trying to finish Lebanon so he can get couple of people talking on the phone……!!!! He spent 5 years in power engulfed by the STL and ignored every need of the ordinary Lebanese. I think the 4 indited should show up to the court and see what the hell they have against them, NOTHING. There are no evidence that they did anything except talking on the phone the day of the explosion.

      Jr., it is much bigger plot than you can imagine. Sr. was not as innocent as you might think. Let it go before the real truth comes out, after that you might need to get a visa signed by Aoun in order for you to come back to Lebanon. 

      1. geo metro Avatar
        geo metro

        i am curious about these  acusations, can you back it up?

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Probably not …

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          These are not accusations, they are facts that happened. It’s a know fact that he paid every MP $1 Million to sign on to the Taif accord. He asked Geagea to get Aoun out and unfortunately Geagea listened to him and promised him to do so. That war was the biggest mistake Geagea and Aoun for the matter ever committed.
          Patriarch Sfeir was ignored by Hariri throughout the 90’s. Sfeir complained about the treatment of the Christians by the government from appointments to the reconstruction in Christian areas.
          I encourage you to go back and listen to Sfeir’s sermons from the 90’s.      

        3. Avatar
          Anonymous

          The English translation of the Tayyar in simple terms: GLORY of Lebanon, SAVIOR of Lebanon.

        4. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          geo, as soon  as I  find an  official  copy , I’ll post it  for  you.

    3. Avatar
      Anonymous

      The STL costed every single Lebanese money they did not have, indebted the country for generations to come. History will judge the Hariri gang for what they have done to Lebanon.
      1. Hariri Sr. (God bless his soul) fueled the war in the 80’s with Saudi $. He paid every single MP to vote for the Taif accord which was the most destructive thing to Lebanon. I strongly believe that was what caused his demise.
      2. He courted and paid the Syrians to give the Salafite more power in Lebanon.
      3. He instigated the war between the Lebanese army and LF.
      4. He went to the Christians (patriarch Sfier) for shelter after the Syrians kicked him out of Damascus. 

      Then Jr. came along trying to finish Lebanon so he can get couple of people talking on the phone……!!!! He spent 5 years in power engulfed by the STL and ignored every need of the ordinary Lebanese. I think the 4 indited should show up to the court and see what the hell they have against them, NOTHING. There are no evidence that they did anything except talking on the phone the day of the explosion.

      Jr., it is much bigger plot than you can imagine. Sr. was not as innocent as you might think. Let it go before the real truth comes out, after that you might need to get a visa signed by Aoun in order for you to come back to Lebanon. 

    4. Avatar
      Anonymous

      you have to understand an important point or two:
      1- what has been released is NOT the whole thing yet
      2- the intentional obstruction of STL by HA and others who did not want it in the first place, has contributed in the length of time its course is taking…hence intention to decieve the investigation by “abou 3abss”.
      3- it will costs a lot of money because theses are not ordinary local judges, prosectuers and lawyers..those we used to in the lebanese judicial system.

      at the end of the day, this STL is much much better alternative to the stinking, hypocritical judicial system where its members including judges take bribes here and there and if they refuse they are murdered!…

      give me international tribunal anytime!

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        I absolutely agree! There is no way it will get anywhere or have real justice if this was done only in Lebanon, we need people on the outside to drive this… people inside the country are all far too busy putting up rockets on hills!

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        Antar,5th drawer,
        I’m not making a judgment on the evidence bellemare presented in his indictment. I will leave that task  to  those  who  are  trained  as  lawyers to  do  so. But  with  my  limited  knowledge, I doubt that  the  scenario presented  by  Bellemare would  stand in  court, and  I would  hold  final  judgment   until  further  evidence.
         I not sure why present a partial indictment with partial evidence either, unless it is part of a political strategy.
        But I find  it hard  to believe that  all this  time  wasted  and the end  result  is what  was  discovered   during the  first  year of the  investigations by Lebanese  authorities. All the doubts that people had about the STL have been justified but the release of this indictment.
         All the  leaks ,when  secrecy was  supposed  to  be  one of the most  important  elements of the investigation, has  tainted  the integrity  of   the whole  process, especially when these  leaks  turned  out  to  be   factual information  instead of media speculations as Mr. Bellemare  said on  more than one  occasion.
         My conclusion is that  all leaks  were done  intentionally for  political  reasons, when the  process was  not  supposed to  politicized. So the politicization of the process raises more doubts now than it did before. Bellemare failed to present a credible indictment, failed to repair the  credibility of  his  process, and failed to illuminate doubts about himself and in  the  eyes  of  the those  who are skeptical.
        Whether the evidence is true or not, the result is a tainted investigation with tainted results. More questions than answers, as if it is meant to doom the Lebanese people with divisive issue to deal with for years to come.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          it is tainted according to those who already thought it was politicised before the recent release.

          there must be a reason for the partial release and we will find out later on. i can think of one reason, an obvious one, and if you thought really hard about it you would find one too but you cannot because you already have your misconceptions abotu the STL.

          we simply cannot complain and doubt each step the STL before the trial begins and before everything else is laid on the table. it is only idiotic for bellmare to lay everything on the table before the capture of the accused….and their bosses…and before the trial actually begins. hold on a few more months perhaps weeks and will know everything indeed.

          your stance only stresses that unfortunately you have bought baseless m8 propaganda about the STL, something is not suprising because many lebanese take your stance even if it does not mean the correct one.

    5. geo metro Avatar
      geo metro

      is there an english translation on tayyar, i could not find it(cant read arabic 🙁 )

  13. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    libnan1 thanks for your reply, i have to confess i am not  familiar with the content of taif or much of the history of sfeir(there is only so much room for rent in my head)

  14. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    libnan1 thanks for your reply, i have to confess i am not  familiar with the content of taif or much of the history of sfeir(there is only so much room for rent in my head)

  15. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    libnan1 thanks for your reply, i have to confess i am not  familiar with the content of taif or much of the history of sfeir(there is only so much room for rent in my head)

  16. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    thanks for the link, i am not an attorney but am  familiar with the process , the content so far only reveals the cause of action and proves only plausable circumstances  for now, however this will be followed  by the process of discoveries,depositions,and many eye witnesses and expert witnesses each with exhibits that may or many not be admissable. the beef that is lacking in the indictment may be reserved untill the accused accept  legal representation  so their fair trial is not prejeduced, i anticipate many more delays and dollars untill the mandate is given to proceed with their trial in absentia, and untill then my biggest suspicions  is the vigorous effort in trying to circumvent the trial and  all the political shifting taking place which may be related to what has not been revealed yet. hope for the best but expect the worst.

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      geo,
      Another observation  to  take  note of ,is that  the  indictment  does not  state anything about the source  or the  authenticity of the data base they  relied  on.
      We all know that the  possibility of data tampering is  there. Many  experts have indicated that   data  could  have been  altered, and I’m not  saying   that   this is  case, but since  it is a  legal  question,  the STL would  have to  prove that  everything  they  have  is authentic.
      Another  simple  question I  have is that since  all these  phone  are  traceable, why  would HA operative use them to plan and  execute  such  a big  operation knowing  very  well that  every phone and  phone  call is traceable?
      It is commonly  knows that HA , during their war against Israel, their  fighters  never  used  cell phones, so they  would not be traced  by  Israel, instead they  used  walkie taklie. Why would they use a technology that could easily be traced in such a critical operation? Are they stupid?
      Even  if  it  is  established that  they  were monitoring Hariri’s movement, it  means  nothing  since  everyone  knows that  HA monitors  every politician movement  in Lebanon anyway. Don’t  you think  that  they  know  what  jumblat  or Gemayle  ate  for  dinner  at  any night?
      THESE  ARE  JUST  QUESTIONS FOR  PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT,AND I’D APPRECIATE ANY INPUT FROM THE  RESPECTED  COMMENTATORS,NO  INSULTS  PLEASE,LOL

      1. geo metro Avatar
        geo metro

        prophet, i sense that there are  many great minds on this forum to provide input  but our culture is very emotional and some times emotions are as bad as drugs or alcohol and this is a very emotional case  for many including my self. i spent a little  time in court rooms as a hobby in my younger years and eventually got involved in pretty complicated litigations that ended up ruling in my favor( no i did not do it for the money  but out of stuborn principles) my strategy was allways a success as long as i had access  to the accused via  lengthy depositions and destroy their credibility  much  later in front of a jury or a judge. one of the problems with this case and many previous assassinations is lack of access to take depositions and put a value on the credibility of the accused on the other hand there is  a loud and clear motive on syrias side  which would easily make hizbollah an accessory or a  co conspiritor as the climate and common ground  between the two was favorable . i  maintain that all things wil be revealed  in due time  and  innocent till proven guilty  but the motive of an israeli  hit is a lot weaker than a syrian one. but then again what do i know i am just a geo metro lol.

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Yes … they are stupid.

  17. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    thanks for the link, i am not an attorney but am  familiar with the process , the content so far only reveals the cause of action and proves only plausable circumstances  for now, however this will be followed  by the process of discoveries,depositions,and many eye witnesses and expert witnesses each with exhibits that may or many not be admissable. the beef that is lacking in the indictment may be reserved untill the accused accept  legal representation  so their fair trial is not prejeduced, i anticipate many more delays and dollars untill the mandate is given to proceed with their trial in absentia, and untill then my biggest suspicions  is the vigorous effort in trying to circumvent the trial and  all the political shifting taking place which may be related to what has not been revealed yet. hope for the best but expect the worst.

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      geo,
      Another observation  to  take  note of ,is that  the  indictment  does not  state anything about the source  or the  authenticity of the data base they  relied  on.
      We all know that the  possibility of data tampering is  there. Many  experts have indicated that   data  could  have been  altered, and I’m not  saying   that   this is  case, but since  it is a  legal  question,  the STL would  have to  prove that  everything  they  have  is authentic.
      Another  simple  question I  have is that since  all these  phone  are  traceable, why  would HA operative use them to plan and  execute  such  a big  operation knowing  very  well that  every phone and  phone  call is traceable?
      It is commonly  knows that HA , during their war against Israel, their  fighters  never  used  cell phones, so they  would not be traced  by  Israel, instead they  used  walkie taklie. Why would they use a technology that could easily be traced in such a critical operation? Are they stupid?
      Even  if  it  is  established that  they  were monitoring Hariri’s movement, it  means  nothing  since  everyone  knows that  HA monitors  every politician movement  in Lebanon anyway. Don’t  you think  that  they  know  what  jumblat  or Gemayle  ate  for  dinner  at  any night?
      THESE  ARE  JUST  QUESTIONS FOR  PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT,AND I’D APPRECIATE ANY INPUT FROM THE  RESPECTED  COMMENTATORS,NO  INSULTS  PLEASE,LOL

      1. geo metro Avatar
        geo metro

         prophet, i sense that there are  many great minds on this forum to provide input  but our culture is very emotional and some times emotions are as bad as drugs or alcohol and this is a very emotional case  for many including my self. i spent a little  time in court rooms as a hobby in my younger years and eventually got involved in pretty complicated litigations that ended up ruling in my favor( no i did not do it for the money  but out of sttubon principles) my strategy was allways a success as long as i had access  to the accused via  lengthy depositions and destroy their credibility  much  later in front of a jury or a judge. one of the problems with this case and many previous assassinations is lack of access to take depositions and put a value on the credibility of the accused on the other hand there is  a loud and clear motive on syrias side  which would easily make hizbollah an accessory or a  co conspiritor as the climate and common ground  between the two was favorable . i  maintain that all things wil be revealed  in due time  and  innocent till proven guilty  but the motive of an israeli  hit is a lot weaker than a syrian one. but then again what do i know i am just a geo metro lol.

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Yes … they are stupid.

  18. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    a lot of hype and publicity and gossip circled around this case and as i started to read the names of the deceased in the indictment i  got an eerie sad feeling about the human side of these people and the hundreds of thousands before. no matter who is implicated  in this case does not make me feel better about our history of successfull killings in lebanon and no acountability  the dillution of our senses as a culture  and people and the continuing cheering and hopes of some  to wipe out the others is still evident  from the words used by some in the comfort of their anonimity behind their keyboard. i  feel ashamed of our culture as we will not get awards anytime soon for our past deeds. its a lose lose anyway you look at it  i dare any single lebanese to point out to me what they gained since 1975.

  19. geo metro Avatar
    geo metro

    a lot of hype and publicity and gossip circled around this case and as i started to read the names of the deceased in the indictment i  got an eerie sad feeling about the human side of these people and the hundreds of thousands before. no matter who is implicated  in this case does not make me feel better about our history of successfull killings in lebanon and no acountability  the dillution of our senses as a culture  and people and the continues cheering and hopes of some  to wipe out the others is still evident  from the words used by some in the comfort of their anonimity behind their keyboard. i  feel ashamed of our culture as we will not get awards anytime soon for our past deeds. its a lose lose anyway you look at it  i dare any single lebanese to point out to me what they gained since 1975.

  20. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

     Private schools in Spain offer small class sizes and pass rates are above average. I would recommend a private school for older children, but, if you have young ones, and considering living permanently in Spain, sending them to a Spanish state school will be more beneficial for them as they will be fluent in Spanish in a very short time and integrated in to the Spanish way of life.

  21. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

     Private schools in Spain offer small class sizes and pass rates are above average. I would recommend a private school for older children, but, if you have young ones, and considering living permanently in Spain, sending them to a Spanish state school will be more beneficial for them as they will be fluent in Spanish in a very short time and integrated in to the Spanish way of life.

  22. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    Javea has many activities, clubs and societies that cater for all tastes. Obviously the summer season has more in the way of outdoor activities. For the sporting type, there is a football team, a rugby team, a netball team and various tennis tournaments. For the water sport lovers you can snorkel, scuba, windsurf, jet-ski or take out a boat for a fishing trip. For the less active there are bridge clubs, computer clubs, sewing and craft clubs and most of the bars have pool and darts teams if you prefer a pint with your chosen sport! In the summer there are volleyball and football tournaments on the beach and a weekly outdoor cinema.

  23. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    For a memorable summer break choose holiday apartment rentals Spain on the Costa Blanca north. The

    Costa Blanca has plenty of reasonably priced holiday accommodation Spain on offer, if you book early!

    You can book a holiday villa to rent in Spain direct with the property owners. Clive Long, the author,

    is a Director of the Holiday-Villa-Select website which offers cost effective holiday rentals in Spain

    booked direct with owners who advertise their holiday villas or apartments on this website no

    commission charged.

  24. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    For a memorable summer break choose holiday apartment rentals Spain on the Costa Blanca north. The

    Costa Blanca has plenty of reasonably priced holiday accommodation Spain on offer, if you book early!

    You can book a holiday villa to rent in Spain direct with the property owners. Clive Long, the author,

    is a Director of the Holiday-Villa-Select website which offers cost effective holiday rentals in Spain

    booked direct with owners who advertise their holiday villas or apartments on this website no

    commission charged.

  25. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    For a memorable summer break choose holiday apartment rentals Spain on the Costa Blanca north. The

    Costa Blanca has plenty of reasonably priced holiday accommodation Spain on offer, if you book early!

    You can book a holiday villa to rent in Spain direct with the property owners. Clive Long, the author,

    is a Director of the Holiday-Villa-Select website which offers cost effective holiday rentals in Spain

    booked direct with owners who advertise their holiday villas or apartments on this website no

    commission charged.

  26. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    For a more conventional museum experience, try the Gravina Fine Arts Museum, with its collection of pieces ranging from the 20th century a far back as the Middle Ages. Alternatively, La Aseguarda Museum features a fine collection of contemporary pieces, from masters including Miro, Dali and Gargallo, as well as some non-Spanish artists.

  27. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    For a more conventional museum experience, try the Gravina Fine Arts Museum, with its collection of pieces ranging from the 20th century a far back as the Middle Ages. Alternatively, La Aseguarda Museum features a fine collection of contemporary pieces, from masters including Miro, Dali and Gargallo, as well as some non-Spanish artists.

  28. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    The opportunities presented by an investment in Spanish property are validated by reputed analysts and data

    available from the government. According to an independent property expert Mark Stucklin, who writes on Spanish

    property for The Sunday Times, the latest government figures point out that the best performing regions in terms

    of property investment lie in the Mediterranean coastal areas. Of these popular areas, the inflation rates in

    Alicante in Costa Blanca are lower than the national average during the latest review period.

  29. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    The opportunities presented by an investment in Spanish property are validated by reputed analysts and data

    available from the government. According to an independent property expert Mark Stucklin, who writes on Spanish

    property for The Sunday Times, the latest government figures point out that the best performing regions in terms

    of property investment lie in the Mediterranean coastal areas. Of these popular areas, the inflation rates in

    Alicante in Costa Blanca are lower than the national average during the latest review period.

  30. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    Benissa is not on the coast but it does have access to an area of the coast which has beautiful, white sand

    beaches. Benissa is always a popular place to book a holiday villa to rent in Spain with holidaymakers who enjoy

    water sports. The weather conditions in Benissa are ideal for scuba diving, snorkeling, windsurfing,

    water-skiing, sailing and fishing. Walking, cycling and horse-riding are also popular activities for those who

    like to get out and about and are great ways to see the mountains and other beautiful scenery around Benissa. In

    the town centre there are a lot of monuments which are worth exploring as are the narrow, cobbled streets.

  31. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    Benissa is not on the coast but it does have access to an area of the coast which has beautiful, white sand

    beaches. Benissa is always a popular place to book a holiday villa to rent in Spain with holidaymakers who enjoy

    water sports. The weather conditions in Benissa are ideal for scuba diving, snorkeling, windsurfing,

    water-skiing, sailing and fishing. Walking, cycling and horse-riding are also popular activities for those who

    like to get out and about and are great ways to see the mountains and other beautiful scenery around Benissa. In

    the town centre there are a lot of monuments which are worth exploring as are the narrow, cobbled streets.

  32. long term rentals Javea Avatar
    long term rentals Javea

    Benissa is not on the coast but it does have access to an area of the coast which has beautiful, white sand

    beaches. Benissa is always a popular place to book a holiday villa to rent in Spain with holidaymakers who enjoy

    water sports. The weather conditions in Benissa are ideal for scuba diving, snorkeling, windsurfing,

    water-skiing, sailing and fishing. Walking, cycling and horse-riding are also popular activities for those who

    like to get out and about and are great ways to see the mountains and other beautiful scenery around Benissa. In

    the town centre there are a lot of monuments which are worth exploring as are the narrow, cobbled streets.

  33. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    for those visitors to Costa Blanca with rental cars highway A7 links Javea throughout Europe with exit ramps at Ondara and Benissa. The latter is located near the milestone mountain peak Montgo. Javea is found on the east Iberian Peninsula about 90 km from Alicante and a little over 100 km from Valencia City. These two cities in Spain each have international metropolitan airports that make your journey very easy.

  34. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    for those visitors to Costa Blanca with rental cars highway A7 links Javea throughout Europe with exit ramps at Ondara and Benissa. The latter is located near the milestone mountain peak Montgo. Javea is found on the east Iberian Peninsula about 90 km from Alicante and a little over 100 km from Valencia City. These two cities in Spain each have international metropolitan airports that make your journey very easy.

  35. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    I was born in Toronto and raised in a small provincial town called Bowmanville – just east of Toronto. I moved

    back to Toronto after high school and attended Humber College in Rexdale where I studied creative arts – like

    fashion design, photography and writing. After college, I opened my first enterprise – a boutique in Toronto’s

    trendy Queen St. area – that sold weird and wonderful wearable art objects.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Ok Javea pusher … does it have a ‘nudist beach’ like Toronto does?  Is it that ‘trendy’ ?
      Or did you buy up the property Spain is kicking the British retirees off of … and now want to flog it?

  36. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    I was born in Toronto and raised in a small provincial town called Bowmanville – just east of Toronto. I moved

    back to Toronto after high school and attended Humber College in Rexdale where I studied creative arts – like

    fashion design, photography and writing. After college, I opened my first enterprise – a boutique in Toronto’s

    trendy Queen St. area – that sold weird and wonderful wearable art objects.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Ok Javea pusher … does it have a ‘nudist beach’ like Toronto does?  Is it that ‘trendy’ ?

  37. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    For those visitors to Costa Blanca with rental cars highway A7 links Javea throughout Europe with exit ramps at

    Ondara and Benissa. The latter is located near the milestone mountain peak Montgo. Javea is found on the east

    Iberian Peninsula about 90 km from Alicante and a little over 100 km from Valencia City. These two cities in

    Spain each have international metropolitan airports that make your journey very easy.

  38. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    For those visitors to Costa Blanca with rental cars highway A7 links Javea throughout Europe with exit ramps at

    Ondara and Benissa. The latter is located near the milestone mountain peak Montgo. Javea is found on the east

    Iberian Peninsula about 90 km from Alicante and a little over 100 km from Valencia City. These two cities in

    Spain each have international metropolitan airports that make your journey very easy.

  39. villa holidays javea Avatar
    villa holidays javea

    For those visitors to Costa Blanca with rental cars highway A7 links Javea throughout Europe with exit ramps at

    Ondara and Benissa. The latter is located near the milestone mountain peak Montgo. Javea is found on the east

    Iberian Peninsula about 90 km from Alicante and a little over 100 km from Valencia City. These two cities in

    Spain each have international metropolitan airports that make your journey very easy.

  40. silvoria.top Avatar
    silvoria.top

    Wow, fantastic weblog layout! How lengthy have you
    ever been blogging for? you made running a blog glance easy.
    The whole look of your website is great, as smartly as the content!

    You can see similar here e-commerce

  41. sklep online Avatar
    sklep online

    I just could not depart your website before suggesting that I actually enjoyed the usual information an individual supply to your visitors?

    Is gonna be again often to inspect new posts I saw similar here: Sklep

  42. sklep Avatar
    sklep

    Hello! This post could not be written any better!
    Reading this post reminds me of my previous room mate! He always kept talking about this.

    I will forward this article to him. Fairly certain he will have a good read.

    Many thanks for sharing! I saw similar here: Sklep internetowy

  43. sklep Avatar
    sklep

    Incredible points. Outstanding arguments. Keep up the good spirit.
    I saw similar here: Najlepszy sklep

  44. sklep internetowy Avatar
    sklep internetowy

    This post is genuinely a good one it assists new internet users, who are wishing for blogging.

    I saw similar here: Sklep internetowy

Leave a Reply