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US, Turkish leaders agree on ‘transition to democrac’ in Syria

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US President Barack Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed during a phone call Thursday on the need for a “transition to democracy” in Syria, the White House said.

The White House also said that Obama and Erdogan had also agreed on the need for an “immediate halt of all bloodshed and violence against the Syrian people” by forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad.

“The two leaders underscored the urgency of the situation, reiterated their deep concern about the Syrian government’s use of violence against civilians and their belief that the Syrian people’s legitimate demands for a transition to democracy should be met,” the White House said in a readout of the call.

While Obama and Erdogan in recent weeks have both deplored the regime’s violent crackdown against protesters, they have stopped short of calling directly for Assad’s departure.

During weeks of hesitation, Washington gradually hardened its stance, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying Assad has lost his legitimacy to rule and the Obama administration pressing for tougher international sanctions on a regime bent on crushing a pro-democracy movement.

On Thursday, US officials said the United States has finally decided to call explicitly for Assad to step down amid broadening pressure to staunch the bloodshed, adding that the announcement could be just hours away.

Erdogan on Saturday said Turkey, which shares a border with Syria and whose ties with Damascus have flourished in recent years, “has run out of patience” with the ongoing violence.

Washington, citing rights activists in Syria, says more than 2,000 people have been killed in the Syrian unrest.

AFP

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58 responses to “US, Turkish leaders agree on ‘transition to democrac’ in Syria”

  1. American Infidels Avatar
    American Infidels

    So do something about it already… People are dying, yet every day all you do is wag the finger..

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Can’t Wag The Dog … Yet.

  2. Iran Aware Avatar
    Iran Aware

    So do something about it already… People are dying, yet every day all you do is wag the finger..

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Can’t Wag The Dog … Yet.

  3. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    assad is isolated  pretty much by now , he feels the heat , the only help he can still  get is from iran but ,iran only willing to backhim up with money and weapons supply to a point and will not risk an allout war against there country by interfeering militalrly
    in another word   if turkey gets  which is a nato memebr and a close ally of the us ,attack assad regeme  with an order from nato, iran will ot dare enter the war with turkey, turkey is on the top 8 most pwerfull military in the world , and they will defeat assad in a few days ; assad will be left alone and isolated and surrendered by all middleeastern countries against him, egypt, saudi,s kwait jordan, all mideast countries with sunni,s governement , so assad only option to survive and maybe his last one if make a deal with the un and us and do it now , take actions ,not only talks because his talking time is out;
    he needs to do what the un and the us wants  immediatley :

    1 – disarm hezbollah in lebanon ,even if he has to send in his tanks to south lebanon to do it;
    2- sign a peace agreement with lebanon and israel ,to guaratee stability in the area
    versus this he will get the sanctions lifted against him and help stay in power and reform to democracy  by giving longer time to reform

    1. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      point one above is wishful thinking…

      lets hope things will settle without war in syria or in lebanon….probably that’s my wishful thinking there.

      1. leobetapar Avatar
        leobetapar

        you start to got it Go in Riyaad to make your revolution guy or the region will be embraced and at the end of the fire the oil will be own by those who have their feet upon it (look at a map where is the arab oil)

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          when i said” wishful thinking” i did not mean that i do not want Hizbollah to be disarmed and its arms and soldiers transfered to the army who much needs arms and well trained soldiers, i meant i hope HA comes to its senses and puts his hands with their fellow lebanese so that there won’t be another civil war coming…7ajjeh ba2a walahi the lebanese cannot cope anymore….

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      He will end up like his General …. is probably trying to avoid that now. Nothing like being between a rock and a hard place, and he deserves that moment to sweat.

      1. leobetapar Avatar
        leobetapar

        LOLOL  usa a rock you mean a sandy rock and what it the hard place Turkey come on/ wait a mm your sheikh ahl shitty has send tanks in Bahrein soon you will know what hard means

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          The rock is the people who want freedom …. the hard place is his own crowd.

          1. leobetapar Avatar
            leobetapar

            i was thinking it’s his own people who want freedom your metaphorismes are shit, sorry

  4. Avatar
    Anonymous

    assad is isolated  pretty much by now , he feels the heat , the only help he can still  get is from iran but ,iran only willing to backhim up with money and weapons supply to a point and will not risk an allout war against there country by interfeering militalrly
    in another word   if turkey gets  which is a nato memebr and a close ally of the us ,attack assad regeme  with an order from nato, iran will ot dare enter the war with turkey, turkey is on the top 8 most pwerfull military in the world , and they will defeat assad in a few days ; assad will be left alone and isolated and surrendered by all middleeastern countries against him, egypt, saudi,s kwait jordan, all mideast countries with sunni,s governement , so assad only option to survive and maybe his last one if make a deal with the un and us and do it now , take actions ,not only talks because his talking time is out;
    he needs to do what the un and the us wants  immediatley :

    1 – disarm hezbollah in lebanon ,even if he has to send in his tanks to south lebanon to do it;
    2- sign a peace agreement with lebanon and israel ,to guaratee stability in the area
    versus this he will get the sanctions lifted against him and help stay in power and reform to democracy  by giving longer time to reform

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      point one above is wishful thinking…

      lets hope things will settle without war in syria or in lebanon….probably that’s my wishful thinking there.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        you start to got it Go in Riyaad to make your revolution guy or the region will be embraced and at the end of the fire the oil will be own by those who have their feet upon it (look at a map where is the arab oil)

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          when i said” wishful thinking” i did not mean that i do not want Hizbollah to be disarmed and its arms and soldiers transfered to the army who much needs arms and well trained soldiers, i meant i hope HA comes to its senses and puts his hands with their fellow lebanese so that there won’t be another civil war coming…7ajjeh ba2a walahi the lebanese cannot cope anymore….

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      He will end up like his General …. is probably trying to avoid that now. Nothing like being between a rock and a hard place, and he deserves that moment to sweat.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        LOLOL  usa a rock you mean a sandy rock and what it the hard place Turkey come on/ wait a mm your sheikh ahl shitty has send tanks in Bahrein soon you will know what hard means

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          The rock is the people who want freedom …. the hard place is his own crowd.

          1. Avatar
            Anonymous

            i was thinking it’s his own people who want freedom your metaphorismes are shit, sorry

          2. Avatar
            Anonymous

            i was thinking it’s his own people who want freedom your metaphorismes are shit, sorry

  5. Leborigine Avatar
    Leborigine

    The transition that they are referring to does no work that easily.
    Ibrahim Mar3ashly once used a good quote in Al Istath wal Mo3alimma for this type of transition, but I could not remember it!!
    What a bloody Dufus!!

    1. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      you are right because the syrian pple want to see the end of him…

      at the same time there is no organised opposition that can take over the country..

      what do you suggest bro?

      1. Leborigine Avatar
        Leborigine

        To be honest with you there are no suggestions at all.
        Unfortunately they will have to go through it the hard way like every other arab country that was run by a dictator.
        The problem with syria though, the opposition is not united, and I do not mean united in a sense that they have to love each other. The opposition in syria is very similar to the four generals of Alexander the Great, each general has its own agenda and its own interests. The scary thing for syria is, which does not concern me, the opposition could break it up and destroy it. The same way the generals destroyed the Greek Empire. 
        Also the same way the Lebanese have created states within states and destroyed Lebanon.

        1. leobetapar Avatar
          leobetapar

          don’t be afraid with the help of the criminals who put Syria on fire it will end up in a great Syria (the same as it was in the ottoman’s empire) in a tight union with Irak and Iran allowing the rightous and the trustworhty to lead the near orient

        2. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          but the protesters seemed genuine for unity…perhaps the opposition will come from these pple…yet how? i dunno…

          LEO your post below stresses your narrow minded thinking…is it believable to you that the salafist/extremist in syria is able to mobilise all these pple around syria for a plan to take over the country?

          come on man, it just nonsensical…there must be a genuine need for the everyday syrian pple to change the political situation in their country to the extent that they are willing to put their life’s at risk in oreder to have freedom..

          the start of the protesting wasn’t calling for Bashaar to step down..[i actually was disappointed with them because as a lebanese i know the syrian butcher’s merciless killings’s way] but they only started to want to see his end when he replied with brutality, killings and torturing of innosent pple…yes innosent pple who have nothing to do with the proptesters but happen to be the relative of this and that….

          he has made a lot of mistakes since the protests began and truely mate, no one believes his story of salafist/extremist propaganda….the countries who say that they believe him are liers they are just interested in their interests…

        3. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          but the protesters seemed genuine for unity…perhaps the opposition will come from these pple…yet how? i dunno…

          LEO your post below stresses your narrow minded thinking…is it believable to you that the salafist/extremist in syria is able to mobilise all these pple around syria for a plan to take over the country?

          come on man, it just nonsensical…there must be a genuine need for the everyday syrian pple to change the political situation in their country to the extent that they are willing to put their life’s at risk in oreder to have freedom..

          the start of the protesting wasn’t calling for Bashaar to step down..[i actually was disappointed with them because as a lebanese i know the syrian butcher’s merciless killings’s way] but they only started to want to see his end when he replied with brutality, killings and torturing of innosent pple…yes innosent pple who have nothing to do with the proptesters but happen to be the relative of this and that….

          he has made a lot of mistakes since the protests began and truely mate, no one believes his story of salafist/extremist propaganda….the countries who say that they believe him are liers they are just interested in their interests…

  6. Avatar
    Anonymous

    The transition that they are referring to does no work that easily.
    Ibrahim Mar3ashly once used a good quote in Al Istath wal Mo3alimma for this type of transition, but I could not remember it!!
    What a bloody Dufus!!

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      you are right because the syrian pple want to see the end of him…

      at the same time there is no organised opposition that can take over the country..

      what do you suggest bro?

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        To be honest with you there are no suggestions at all.
        Unfortunately they will have to go through it the hard way like every other arab country that was run by a dictator.
        The problem with syria though, the opposition is not united, and I do not mean united in a sense that they have to love each other. The opposition in syria is very similar to the four generals of Alexander the Great, each general has its own agenda and its own interests. The scary thing for syria is, which does not concern me, the opposition could break it up and destroy it. The same way the generals destroyed the Greek Empire. 
        Also the same way the Lebanese have created states within states and destroyed Lebanon.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          don’t be afraid with the help of the criminals who put Syria on fire it will end up in a great Syria (the same as it was in the ottoman’s empire) in a tight union with Irak and Iran allowing the rightous and the trustworhty to lead the near orient

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          but the protesters seemed genuine for unity…perhaps the opposition will come from these pple…yet how? i dunno…

  7. Avatar
    Anonymous

    The transition that they are referring to does no work that easily.
    Ibrahim Mar3ashly once used a good quote in Al Istath wal Mo3alimma for this type of transition, but I could not remember it!!
    What a bloody Dufus!!

  8. leobetapar Avatar
    leobetapar

    it will be so interesting if the wife of the turkish’s president was allow to dress as she want.
    How a counrtry who know so little on democracy as turkish where even the wife of the president isn’t allow to cover her head can pretend speak about democracy
    I fthe turk pretend to meddle in Syrian business before the end of the year PKK will proclam secession and we will see who will laugh us or the idiotic slave of the capitalism which is turkey

    1. antar2011 Avatar
      antar2011

      she is allowed to have hijab in fact she was  standing next to her husband when he won the election and saluted his party members…there was no contraversy there..

      what you are talking about is so like turkey ages ago..

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Freedom is knowing that she can either wear it or not – as SHE chooses.
          There is no religious rule on that, except in certain despotic regimes who think women are only baby-factories to produce ‘warriors’, and lower than dirt.

        1. leobetapar Avatar
          leobetapar

          you lie the withe (precedently grey) wolfs forbide her to wear it in official duty ,everyone know that and it’s why the president never appear in official duty with her (it’s very sad because she is truly beautyfull)

      2. leobetapar Avatar
        leobetapar

        poor you ,you know absolutly nothing once she appear on official duty with her hijab the generals (withe wolfs precedently grey )tell her husban next time it’s a coup ,since she never again appear on official duty
        everyone know that you make me loose time

        1. antar2011 Avatar
          antar2011

          stop stalking me

    2. Leborigine Avatar
      Leborigine

      You really have some issues guy!!
      And you definitely must be a ssnp member, as most of your comments include greater syria.
      Forget greater syria mate, it only existed for a brief moment in history and it will never work in modern day society.
      The palestinians being the smallest numbers in the region cannot unit, let alone the Lebanese, the syrians, the Iraqis, the Cypriots, The Jordanians. Its like putting lions, buffalo, hyenas, cheetahs and wilderbeast in the same den and expecting that they will get along together.
      Truthfully, I do not have time for ssnp logic as I have grown up in that environment and have argued with them since i got involved in politics, its like talking to a brick wall. The syrian desert spans wide and long for miles, I suggest to everyone who believes in these theories to go and live there and start the empire from the desert if it succeeds. From most parts of Lebanon, it only takes 6-7 hours driving to the eastern desert in syria, its not that long. All you have to do is pack your bags and hand over the Lebanese ID to your nearest council, apply for a syrian visa from the syrian embassy in Beirut (if you are ssnp, you wont need one as the whole region is one country), fill your car up with fuel and your set. One way ticket to heaven. The heart of your empire. It will be close to Iraq, iran, easy access to weapons and a large landscape for training and setting up missiles. That way they can fight like real men instead of fighting from behind women and children.
      Don’t get me wrong, if you want to be part of greater syria, go ahead, but a great number of Lebanese do not want to have a bar of it and do not want it forced upon us either, the same way you do not like some Lebanese forcing upon you to have peace with israel!

      I conclude my conversation with you leo as I can see this is going to be a waste of time.

      1. leobetapar Avatar
        leobetapar

        very long for someone who haven’t time
        I believe in God one day all the Shia on earth will be one with Nadjaf as luminarie

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          We sure need some luminaries … but you are not one leo … sorry.

          1. leobetapar Avatar
            leobetapar

            i am not with big heel ,read what i say
            the only one luminatie in this world (in eurasia) is Nadjaf it’s why the 3 millenium is for the Shia

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          We sure need some luminaries … but you are not one leo … sorry.

        3. Fadi81 Avatar
          Fadi81

          VEry much who needs righteous and will laugh  from them the enemy! run for are not those salafiste capitalist and can loose for them  time is shia for ever!

          How did I do? this is the best Iranian zionist I can speak…it almost made me dizzy, but it felt good to let that all out.

          1. leobetapar Avatar
            leobetapar

            very good like that no one can spot and understand the murkiest of your though

  9. Avatar
    Anonymous

    it will be so interesting if the wife of the turkish’s president was allow to dress as she want.
    How a counrtry who know so little on democracy as turkish where even the wife of the president isn’t allow to cover her head can pretend speak about democracy
    I fthe turk pretend to meddle in Syrian business before the end of the year PKK will proclam secession and we will see who will laugh us or the idiotic slave of the capitalism which is turkey

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      she is allowed to have hijab in fact she was  standing next to her husband when he won the election and saluted his party members…there was no contraversy there..

      what you are talking about is so like turkey ages ago..

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Freedom is knowing that she can either wear it or not – as SHE chooses.
          There is no religious rule on that, except in certain despotic regimes who think women are only baby-factories to produce ‘warriors’, and lower than dirt.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          you lie the withe (precedently grey) wolfs forbide her to wear it in official duty ,everyone know that and it’s why the president never appear in official duty with her (it’s very sad because she is truly beautyfull)

      2. Avatar
        Anonymous

        poor you ,you know absolutly nothing once she appear on official duty with her hijab the generals (withe wolfs precedently grey )tell her husban next time it’s a coup ,since she never again appear on official duty
        everyone know that you make me loose time

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          stop stalking me

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      You really have some issues guy!!
      And you definitely must be a ssnp member, as most of your comments include greater syria.
      Forget greater syria mate, it only existed for a brief moment in history and it will never work in modern day society.
      The palestinians being the smallest numbers in the region cannot unit, let alone the Lebanese, the syrians, the Iraqis, the Cypriots, The Jordanians. Its like putting lions, buffalo, hyenas, cheetahs and wilderbeast in the same den and expecting that they will get along together.
      Truthfully, I do not have time for ssnp logic as I have grown up in that environment and have argued with them since i got involved in politics, its like talking to a brick wall. The syrian desert spans wide and long for miles, I suggest to everyone who believes in these theories to go and live there and start the empire from the desert if it succeeds. From most parts of Lebanon, it only takes 6-7 hours driving to the eastern desert in syria, its not that long. All you have to do is pack your bags and hand over the Lebanese ID to your nearest council, apply for a syrian visa from the syrian embassy in Beirut (if you are ssnp, you wont need one as the whole region is one country), fill your car up with fuel and your set. One way ticket to heaven. The heart of your empire. It will be close to Iraq, iran, easy access to weapons and a large landscape for training and setting up missiles. That way they can fight like real men instead of fighting from behind women and children.
      Don’t get me wrong, if you want to be part of greater syria, go ahead, but a great number of Lebanese do not want to have a bar of it and do not want it forced upon us either, the same way you do not like some Lebanese forcing upon you to have peace with israel!

      I conclude my conversation with you leo as I can see this is going to be a waste of time.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        very long for someone who haven’t time
        I believe in God one day all the Shia on earth will be one with Nadjaf as luminarie

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          We sure need some luminaries … but you are not one leo … sorry.

          1. Avatar
            Anonymous

            i am not with big heel ,read what i say
            the only one luminatie in this world (in eurasia) is Nadjaf it’s why the 3 millenium is for the Shia

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          VEry much who needs righteous and will laugh  from them the enemy! run for are not those salafiste capitalist and can loose for them  time is shia for ever!

          How did I do? this is the best Iranian zionist I can speak…it almost made me dizzy, but it felt good to let that all out.

          1. Avatar
            Anonymous

            very good like that no one can spot and understand the murkiest of your though

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