Death toll rises to 87 in Norway explosion, camp shooting

A homegrown terrorist set off a deadly explosion in downtown Oslo before heading to a summer camp dressed as a police officer to commit one of the deadliest shooting sprees in history, killing at least 80 people as terrified youths ran and even swam for their lives, police said today.

Police initially said about 10 people were killed at the forested camp on the island of Utoya, but some survivors said they thought the toll was much higher. Police director Oystein Maeland told reporters they had discovered many more victims.

“It’s taken time to search the area. What we know now is that we can say that there are at least 80 killed at Utoya,” Maeland said. “It goes without saying that this gives dimensions to this incident that are exceptional.”

A suspect in the shootings, and the Oslo explosion that killed seven people, was arrested. Though police did not release his name, Norwegian national broadcaster NRK identified him as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik and said police searched his Oslo apartment overnight. NRK and other Norwegian media posted pictures of the blond, blue-eyed Norwegian.

A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that “it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway’s police.

“It seems it’s not Islamic-terror related,” the official said. “This seems like a madman’s work.”

The official said the attack “is probably more Norway’s Oklahoma City than it is Norway’s World Trade Center.” Domestic terrorists carried out the 1995 attack on a federal building in Oklahoma City, while foreign terrorists were responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

The official added, however, “it’s still just hours since the incident happened. And the investigation is going on with all available resources.”

The attacks formed the deadliest day of terror in Western Europe since the 2004 Madrid train bombings, when shrapnel-filled bombs exploded, killing 191 people and wounding about 1,800.

The motive was unknown, but both attacks were in areas connected to the ruling Labor Party government. The youth camp, about 20 miles (35 kilometers) northwest of Oslo, is organized by the party’s youth wing, and the prime minister had been scheduled to speak there Saturday.

A 15-year-old camper named Elise said she heard gunshots, but then saw a police officer and thought she was safe. Then he started shooting people right before her eyes.

“I saw many dead people,” said Elise, whose father, Vidar Myhre,

didn’t want her to disclose her last name. “He first shot people on the island. Afterward he started shooting people in the water.”

Elise said she hid behind the same rock that the killer was standing on. “I could hear his breathing from the top of the rock,” she said.

She said it was impossible to say how many minutes passed while she was waiting for him to stop.

At a hotel in the village of Sundvollen, where survivors of the shooting were taken, 21-year-old Dana Berzingi wore pants stained with blood. He said the fake police officer ordered people to come closer, then pulled weapons and ammunition from a bag and started shooting.

Several victims “had pretended as if they were dead to survive,” Berzingi said. But after shooting the victims with one gun, the gunman shot them again in the head with a shotgun, he said.

“I lost several friends,” said Berzingi, who used the cell phone of one of those friends to call police.

The blast in Oslo, Norway’s capital and the city where the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded, left a square covered in twisted metal, shattered glass and documents expelled from surrounding buildings. Most of the windows in the 20-floor high-rise where

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and his administration work were shattered. Other buildings damaged house government offices and the headquarters of some of Norway’s leading newspapers.

The dust-fogged scene after the blast reminded one visitor from New York of Sept. 11.

Ian Dutton, who was in a nearby hotel, said people “just covered in rubble” were walking through “a fog of debris.”

“It wasn’t any sort of a panic,” he said, “It was really just people in disbelief and shock, especially in a such as safe and open country as Norway.

You don’t even think something like that is possible.”

Police said the Oslo explosion was caused by “one or more” bombs.

The police official who spoke on condition of anonymity said the Oslo bombing occurred at 3:26 p.m. local time (1:26 p.m. GMT), and the camp shootings began one to two hours later. The official said the gunman used both automatic weapons and handguns, and that there was at least one unexploded device at the youth camp that a police bomb disposal team and military experts were working on disarming.

The suspect had only a minor criminal record, the official said.

National police chief Sveinung Sponheim said seven people were killed by the blast in downtown Oslo, four of whom have been identified, and that nine or 10 people were seriously injured.

Sponheim said a man was arrested in the shooting, and the suspect had been observed in Oslo before the explosion there.

Sponheim said the camp shooter “wore a sweater with a police sign on it. I can confirm that he wasn’t a police employee and never has been.”

Aerial images broadcast by Norway’s TV2 showed members of a SWAT team dressed in black arriving at the island in boats and running up the dock. Behind them, people who stripped down to their underwear swam away from the island toward shore, some using flotation devices.

Sponheim said police were still trying to get an overview of the camp shooting and could not say whether there was more than one shooter. He would not give any details about the identity or nationality of the suspect, who was being interrogated by police.

Oslo University Hospital said 12 people were admitted for treatment following the Utoya shooting, and 11 people were taken there from the explosion in Oslo. The hospital asked people to donate blood.

Stoltenberg, who was home when the blast occurred and was not harmed, visited injured

people at the hospital late Friday. Earlier he decried what he called “a cowardly attack on young innocent civilians.”

“I have message to those who attacked us,” he said. “It’s

a message from all of Norway: You will not destroy our democracy and our commitment to a better world.”

NRK showed video in Oslo of a blackened car lying on its side amid the debris. An AP reporter who was in the office of Norwegian news agency NTB said the building shook from the blast and all employees were evacuated. Down in the street, he saw one person with a bleeding leg being led away from the area.

An AP reporter headed to Utoya was turned away by police before reaching the lake that surrounds the island, as eight ambulances with sirens blaring entered the area. Police blocked off roads leading to the lake.

The United States, European Union, NATO and the U.K., all quickly condemned the bombing, which Britain’s Foreign Secretary William Hague called “horrific” and NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen deemed a “heinous act.”

“It’s a reminder that the entire international community has a stake in preventing this kind of terror from occurring,” President Barack Obama said.

Obama extended his condolences to Norway’s people and offered U.S. assistance with the investigation. He said he remembered how warmly Norwegians treated him in Oslo when he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.

Nobel Peace Prize Chairman Thorbjorn Jagland said it appeared the camp attack

“was intended to hurt young citizens who actively engage in our democratic and political society. But we must not be intimidated. We need to work for freedom and democracy every day.”

A U.S. counterterrorism official said the United States knew of no links to terrorist groups and early indications were the attack was domestic. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was being handled by Norway.

At least two Islamic extremist groups had tried to take credit for the attacks. Many intelligence analysts said they had never heard of Helpers of Global Jihad, which took initial credit. The Kurdish group Ansar al-Islam also took credit on some jihadist web sites.

Norway has been grappling with a homegrown terror plot linked to al-Qaida. Two

suspects are in jail awaiting charges.

Last week, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terror charges against an Iraqi-born cleric for threatening Norwegian politicians with death if he is deported from the Scandinavian country. The indictment centered on statements that Mullah Krekar — the founder of Ansar al-Islam — made to various news media, including American network NBC.

Terrorism has also been a concern in neighboring Denmark since an uproar over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad six years ago.

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  • Sebouh80

    It appears that this madman is a conservative right-wing fanatic.

  • Anonymous

    It appears that this madman is a conservative right-wing fanatic.

  • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

    Well you see, after WWII, the only place in Europe that endured denazification was West Germany. In reality, most of Europe collaborated and sympathized with the Nazis.

    • dm9076

      We are in 2011… WWII era is over… US civil war is over too… we have to think for the future…

    • 5thDrawer

      Not sure of ‘sympathy’ … but some collaboration due to fear, which seems a natural phenomenon – yet many pretended that too, just to be able to pass information on to allies. Militarily, Europe could not match the Nazis … would you prefer mass suicides?

    • 5thDrawer

      Not sure of ‘sympathy’ … but some collaboration due to fear, which seems a natural phenomenon – yet many pretended that too, just to be able to pass information on to allies. Militarily, Europe could not match the Nazis … would you prefer mass suicides?

  • Well you see, after WWII, the only place in Europe that endured denazification was West Germany. In reality, most of Europe collaborated and sympathized with the Nazis.

    • Anonymous

      We are in 2011… WWII era is over… US civil war is over too… we have to think for the future…

    • Anonymous

      We are in 2011… WWII era is over… US civil war is over too… we have to think for the future…

    • Anonymous

      We are in 2011… WWII era is over… US civil war is over too… we have to think for the future…

    • Anonymous

      Not sure of ‘sympathy’ … but some collaboration due to fear, which seems a natural phenomenon – yet many pretended that too, just to be able to pass information on to allies. Militarily, Europe could not match the Nazis … would you prefer mass suicides?

  • 5thDrawer

    “We need to work for freedom and democracy every day.”
      Especially when these small-minded idiot/fanatics seem to take it away bit by bit .
    As we attempt to make it ‘more safe’ to fly, boat, drive, walk, or read a book, we also see how they eat away at freedom.
      But real freedom can still exist in the mind … and should. This can never be taken away except by brainwashing. We are born that way.
    Expressing the need to have ‘freedom’ remains paramount to human existence, because people seem to need reminding, even when the ‘soul’ of ‘Man’ tells us all the time what we prefer to live like.

      The problem here was that a sick brain was able to get it’s hands on large amounts of destructive material and weapons.
    Which is why the world worries about Iran … and North Korea …

  • Anonymous

    “We need to work for freedom and democracy every day.”
      Especially when these small-minded idiot/fanatics seem to take it away bit by bit .
    As we attempt to make it ‘more safe’ to fly, boat, drive, walk, or read a book, we also see how they eat away at freedom.
      But real freedom can still exist in the mind … and should. This can never be taken away except by brainwashing. We are born that way.
    Expressing the need to have ‘freedom’ remains paramount to human existence, because people seem to need reminding, even when the ‘soul’ of ‘Man’ tells us all the time what we prefer to live like.

      The problem here was that a sick brain was able to get it’s hands on large amounts of destructive material and weapons.
    Which is why the world worries about Iran …

  • Anonymous

    “We need to work for freedom and democracy every day.”
      Especially when these small-minded idiot/fanatics seem to take it away bit by bit .
    As we attempt to make it ‘more safe’ to fly, boat, drive, walk, or read a book, we also see how they eat away at freedom.
      But real freedom can still exist in the mind … and should. This can never be taken away except by brainwashing. We are born that way.
    Expressing the need to have ‘freedom’ remains paramount to human existence, because people seem to need reminding, even when the ‘soul’ of ‘Man’ tells us all the time what we prefer to live like.

      The problem here was that a sick brain was able to get it’s hands on large amounts of destructive material and weapons.
    Which is why the world worries about Iran …

  • PROPHET.T

    Why do fanatics seem to be certain of themselves,whereas the rest of society seems to be full of doubts? It is because religious fanatics tend to claim God as an ally, and hence act upon that false certainty as an enforcer of “God’s wishes”; while the rest of society is busy trying to figure out God.
    Regardless of which faith they belong to, fanatics are always a short step away from barbarism, and terrorism. Whether one calls it “madman’s work”, “domestic violence, or deranged people gone wild, it is still barbaric and it is still terrorism.
    Religious fanatics, of all faiths, have many things in common, but the most important ones are their willingness to use violence, and kill innocent people in order to enforce their views, and their disregard of the lives of those who disagree with them.

    • dm9076

      It is a mental disorder. See part article I posted on grandiosity disorder.

      • 5thDrawer

        Yes … and an inability for that particular brain to hold ‘debate’ within itself about anything logical. Like a train sitting on one track going in circles, with no round-house to allow it to change direction or find a new track to travel.
        And, (while I ‘hate’ to cast dispersion from minimal contact) …. Our recent experience here with leobetapar may be an example … any subject brought up only had one cause and one conclusion for him/her … and that brain reacted to everything the same way. One to worry about .. or for? Time will tell … but I am sure a very unhappy life there.

        • 316909

          I think in the end the people that truly believe other religions go to hell are the people that will suffer the most. the people that are most religious are the people that will suffer the most. Its like the Anti-Christ is actually being a fanatic. They talk about the riches and how happy you will be if you just follow everything we tell you to do and that includes hating other religions. They dont say hate but if you really think a person from another religion is going to hell no matter what then I call that hate. Imagine if my parents were religious one Muslim and one Christian willing to have sex, get married, have children with you but I think youre going to hell…..

    • 316909

      Thats why Im agnostic buddy! I know for a fact that every religion is based on false information and the truth is we all know it but most are too afraid of letting go. If its all real why is god holding the truth back from us? Why is it a
      secret? If he loves us he wouldn’t want us to go to hell and suffer he
      would tell us what religion to follow (like really just tell us). I think God has lost faith in us and hates us at this point. Its like buying a really cute dog that grow up to be very aggressive towards you no matter how much you love it and always craps and pisses in your house no matter what you do….. 

      1. Christians celebrate Xmass as the day Jesus was born. Truth is Constantine declared it a christian holiday so his Army would back him once he turned christian and for thousands of years before that it was celebrated as the bith day of the War God Pluto. But its in the bible. This is one of a few hundred facts just google for more.
      2.Multiple religions had saviors that were born to a virgin and were supposed to be the son of god. Just google it. Christianity basically united them under the Roman Empire. 
      3.Islam claims the Mohammad wrote the Koran but the truth is it was written a few hundred years after he died by a group of Sheiks (who could have written anything they wanted) it actually say it in the Koran but since Mohammad had told his followers and made them memorize it they basically said it was considered to be written by him. The other distorted fact is in the Koran it says he heard the Koran and memorized it while praying in a cave, but its now claimed he wrote it in the cave as he was hearing it. These stories were spreed by the Sheiks to gain legitimacy since everything needed to have been witnessed by 2 other than the sheiks before it went into the Koran they could not lie about it in the Koran but spread it in the mosques.
      4. Shia-Sunni conflict: Why didnt god just speak to all the Muslims and tell them who he wanted to be Mohammad successor. Better yet why did you even need a successor? the religion was established but it was run as a business. Wars were waged to collect taxes from new citizens and sell slaves to other nations. Not just in this war but the Christian – Muslim wars mainly.
      5.The holy catholic church would sell land in heaven thats how most of its fortune was collected.
      6.the world is not the center of the universe as the pope claimed god said.
      7.king Henry of England wanted a divorce the pope refused to grant it so he made a new church and appointed himself pope and its the Anglican church. He had 6 or 7 wives and killed 2 of them for not having boys….
      8. I dont know much about the Jewish faith but im sure it has its faults too like all other religions.

      this is what comes to me without even making an effort to search or remember.

      • 5thDrawer

        Well … I guess you believe some things, for sure. 🙂
        Have you read ‘The Gnostic Gospels’ – also named ‘Nag Hammadi’ ?
        Very interesting … and philosophically relevant to aeons of ‘man’ on the planet … who most often put the female on the pedestal. (Hmmm .. is that why I like them so? 🙂

        “If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.” — G. K. Chesterton

  • PROPHET.T

    Why do fanatics seem to be certain of themselves,whereas the rest of society seems to be full of doubts? It is because religious fanatics tend to claim God as an ally, and hence act upon that false certainty as an enforcer of “God’s wishes”; while the rest of society is busy trying to figure out God.
    Regardless of which faith they belong to, fanatics are always a short step away from barbarism, and terrorism. Whether one calls it “madman’s work”, “domestic violence, or deranged people gone wild, it is still barbaric and it is still terrorism.
    Religious fanatics, of all faiths, have many things in common, but the most important ones are their willingness to use violence, and kill innocent people in order to enforce their views, and their disregard of the lives of those who disagree with them.

  • PROPHET.T

    Why do fanatics seems to be certain of themselves, and the rest of society seems to be full of doubts? It is because religious fanatics tend to claim God as an ally, and hence act upon that false certainty as an enforcer of “God’s wishes”; while the rest of society is busy trying to figure out God.
    Regardless of which faith they belong to, fanatics are always a short step away from barbarism, and terrorism. Whether one calls it “madman’s work”, “domestic violence, or deranged people gone wild, it is still barbaric and it is still terrorism.
    Religious fanatics, of all faiths, have many things in common, but the most important ones are their willingness to use violence, and kill innocent people in order to enforce their views, and their disregard of the lives of those who disagree with them.

    • Anonymous

      It is a mental disorder. See part article I posted on grandiosity disorder.

      • Anonymous

        Yes … and an inability for that particular brain to hold ‘debate’ within itself about anything logical. Like a train sitting on one track going in circles, with no round-house to allow it to change direction or find a new track to travel.
        And, (while I ‘hate’ to cast dispersion from minimal contact) …. Our recent experience here with leobetapar may be an example … any subject brought up only had one cause and one conclusion for him/her … and that brain reacted to everything the same way. One to worry about .. or for? Time will tell … but I am sure a very unhappy life there.

        • Anonymous

          I think in the end the people that truly believe other religions go to hell are the people that will suffer the most. the people that are most religious are the people that will suffer the most. Its like the Anti-Christ is actually being a fanatic. They talk about the riches and how happy you will be if you just follow everything we tell you to do and that includes hating other religions. They dont say hate but if you really think a person from another religion is going to hell no matter what then I call that hate. Imagine if my parents were religious one Muslim and one Christian willing to have sex, get married, have children with you but I think youre going to hell…..

        • Anonymous

          I think in the end the people that truly believe other religions go to hell are the people that will suffer the most. the people that are most religious are the people that will suffer the most. Its like the Anti-Christ is actually being a fanatic. They talk about the riches and how happy you will be if you just follow everything we tell you to do and that includes hating other religions. They dont say hate but if you really think a person from another religion is going to hell no matter what then I call that hate. Imagine if my parents were religious one Muslim and one Christian willing to have sex, get married, have children with you but I think youre going to hell…..

        • Anonymous

          I think in the end the people that truly believe other religions go to hell are the people that will suffer the most. the people that are most religious are the people that will suffer the most. Its like the Anti-Christ is actually being a fanatic. They talk about the riches and how happy you will be if you just follow everything we tell you to do and that includes hating other religions. They dont say hate but if you really think a person from another religion is going to hell no matter what then I call that hate. Imagine if my parents were religious one Muslim and one Christian willing to have sex, get married, have children with you but I think youre going to hell…..

    • Anonymous

      Thats why Im agnostic buddy! I know for a fact that every religion is based on false information and the truth is we all know it but most are too afraid of letting go. If its all real why is god holding the truth back from us? Why is it a
      secret? If he loves us he wouldn’t want us to go to hell and suffer he
      would tell us what religion to follow….. 

      1. Christians celebrate Xmass as the day Jesus was born. Truth is Constantine declared it a christian holiday so his Army would back him once he turned christian and for thousands of years before that it was celebrated as the bith day of the War God Pluto. But its in the bible. This is one of a few hundred facts just google for more.
      2.Multiple religions had saviors that were born to a virgin and were supposed to be the son of god. Just google it. Christianity basically united them under the Roman Empire. 
      3.Islam claims the Mohammad wrote the Koran but the truth is it was written a few hundred years after he died by a group of Sheiks (who could have written anything they wanted).
      4. Shia-Sunni conflict: Why didnt god just speak to all the Muslims and tell them who he wanted to be Mohammad successor. Better yet why did you even need a successor? the religion was established but it was run as a business. Wars were waged to collect taxes from new citizens and sell slaves to other nations.
      5.The holy catholic church would sell land in heaven thats how most of its fortune was collected.
      6.the world is not the center of the universe as the pope claimed god said.
      7. I dont know much about the Jewish faith but im sure it has its faults too like all other religions.

      this is what comes to me without even making an effort to search or remember.

      • Anonymous

        Well … I guess you believe some things, for sure. 🙂
        Have you read ‘The Gnostic Gospels’ – also named ‘Nag Hammadi’ ?
        Very interesting … and philosophically relevant to aeons of ‘man’ on the planet … who most often put the female on the pedestal. (Hmmm .. is that why I like them so? 🙂

        “If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.” — G. K. Chesterton

  • Fauzia45

    All fanatics are the same!They are a danger to society!They are selfish, frustrated,desperate and insecure  ! They are ready to embrace any cause for they have lost faith in their own selves!They eventually become the most violent extremists and kill and destroy the world they hate!!

  • Anonymous

    All fanatics are the same!They are a danger to society!They are selfish, frustrated,desperate and insecure  ! They are ready to embrace any cause for they have lost faith in their own selves!They eventually become the most violent extremists and kill and destroy the world they hate!!

  • Anonymous

    All fanatics are the same!They are a danger to society!They are selfish, frustrated,desperate and insecure  ! They are ready to embrace any cause for they have lost faith in their own selves!They eventually become the most violent extremists and kill and destroy the world they hate!!