Berri:Talks on forming a new government start on Monday

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The Lebanese president will begin consultations with lawmakers at 12:00 p.m. on Monday January 17 to designate a new prime minister, parliament speaker Nabih Berri said after meeting President Michel Suleiman at the Baabda palace .

“The consultations will start on Monday at noon,” Berri told reporters on Thursday.

Lebanon’s government is dissolved when more than one third of its 30 cabinet members resign, and on Wednesday all 10 ministers belonging to the Iranian backed Hezbollah-led opposition announced their resignations. Hours later, they were joined by an eleventh minister representing Lebanese president Michel Suleiman, forcing the collapse of PM Saad Hariri’s government.

Lebanon’s president asked Hariri to stay on as caretaker prime minister on Thursday after Hezbollah ministers and their allies resigned in a dispute over an investigation into the killing of Hariri’s father. A statement issued by President Michel Suleiman called on the government to “continue in a caretaker capacity until a new government is formed”.

Hezbollah according to reports has someone else in mind to lead the new government . Hezbollah MP Mohammed Raad unveiled on Thursday that the March 8 forces will name a personality with a history of national resistance to head the new government . Raad told reporters after meeting former President Emile Lahoud in response to a question on who will that be : “A personality with a national resistance biography,

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  1. Hannibal Avatar

    It is beyond me how the March 8 bloc loses the election yet they want to decide who becomes premier of Lebanon. In EVERY country in the world losers byendabbo EXCEPT in Lebanon the election loser gets to share the power and dictate terms. Weapons dictate not voices and certainly not the will of the majority of people. Time to arm I guess. Bunch of tribal morons and a failed state.

    1. NAGDELLA Avatar

      I’m not sure what you mean Hannibal. March 14 won parliamentary majority and they elected Saad Hariri as PM. Did March 8 want Saad Hariri as PM? Probably not. How many cabinet meetings did Hariri schedule while acting PM? How much time did Hariri spend in Lebanon while acting PM? And they stress this ‘we are open for dialogue’ factor while the PM spent more time abroad. How? Via video link on msn messenger? Maybe they should take more care in selecting PM material next time around instead of a tourist!

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        NAGDELLA,
        This is a marvelous idea; dialogue via video link or messenger. I bet Hariri would have loved the idea, had he thought of it. If He reads this page, He’ll blame his team for not suggesting it. lol
        I could not resist, lol

      2. Hannibal Avatar

        I am with you 100% as to his performance. Alas, all his efforts were spent on revenge for his martyred father. I have a theory of my own in this regard. I bet he spent time abroad because he feels safer there than in his own country. regardless, whether he is PM material or not, he was elected by the so called majority. After all it is a pissing contest. Sad for Saad! (no Pun intended) 😉

    2. Hannibal If we keep denigrate our nation, we never be proud of it. We need to build on positive. The real Lebanon is synonomous of co-existence not tribes. What is happening is some like HA are regarding their ideaology as been more important. The real problem is fanatic ideaology just like the nazi in germany. The real lebanese is a pacifist capable of adapting in all kind of society.

      We need not to forget that we form a great nation with a great history, losing our pride will not help it will destroy whom we represent in the history of humanity.

      Let be steadfast in our value to live in peace, let confront violence without being violent, lets us seek justice with a strong determination.
      Lets us believe we can overcome all dispute and conflict let be one people one nation one government.

      We should not let our HA brother to destabilize us in our pursue of our ideology which is to live in peace and harmony with all the sect that compose our mosaic nation.

      Peace

  2. It is beyond me how the March 8 bloc loses the election yet they want to decide who becomes premier of Lebanon. In EVERY country in the world losers byendabbo EXCEPT in Lebanon the election loser gets to share the power and dictate terms. Weapons dictate not voices and certainly not the will of the majority of people. Time to arm I guess. Bunch of tribal morons and a failed state.

    1.  Avatar

      I’m not sure what you mean Hannibal. March 14 won parliamentary majority and they elected Saad Hariri as PM. Did March 8 want Saad Hariri as PM? Probably not. How many cabinet meetings did Hariri schedule while acting PM? How much time did Hariri spent in Lebanon while acting PM? And they stress this ‘we are open for dialogue’ factor while the PM spent more time abroad. How? Via video link on msn messenger? Maybe they should take more care in selecting PM material next time around instead of a tourist!

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        NAGDELLA,
        This is a marvelous idea; dialogue via video link or messenger. I bet Hariri would have loved the idea, had he thought of it. If He reads this page, He’ll blame his team for not suggesting it. lol
        I could not resist, lol

      2. I am with you 100% as to his performance. Alas, all his efforts were spent on revenge for his martyred father. I have a theory of my own in this regard. I bet he spent time abroad because he feels safer there than in his own country. regardless, whether he is PM material or not, he was elected by the so called majority. After all it is a pissing contest. Sad for Saad! (no Pun intended) 😉

    2.  Avatar

      I’m not sure what you mean Hannibal. March 14 won parliamentary majority and they elected Saad Hariri as PM. Did March 8 want Saad Hariri as PM? Probably not. How many cabinet meetings did Hariri schedule while acting PM? How much time did Hariri spent in Lebanon while acting PM? And they stress this ‘we are open for dialogue’ factor while the PM spent more time abroad. How? Via video link on msn messenger? Maybe they should take more care in selecting PM material next time around instead of a tourist!

    3. Hannibal If we keep denigrate our nation, we never be proud of it. We need to build on positive. The real Lebanon is synonomous of co-existence not tribes. What is happening is some like HA are regarding their ideaology as been more important. The real problem is fanatic ideaology just like the nazi in germany. The real lebanese is a pacifist capable of adapting in all kind of society.

      We need not to forget that we form a great nation with a great history, losing our pride will not help it will destroy whom we represent in the history of humanity.

      Let be steadfast in our value to live in peace, let confront violence without being violent, lets us seek justice with a strong determination.
      Lets us believe we can overcome all dispute and conflict let be one people one nation one government.

      We should not let our HA brother to destabilize us in our pursue of our ideology which is to live in peace and harmony with all the sect that compose our mosaic nation.

      Peace

  3. Oh so you guys are getting the government back together? Aww shucks, does that mean you won’t be killing each other in the streets again?

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      Not as long we have you to shoot at.

    2. master09 Avatar

      Rite on the mark agree with you, what has happened and what will happen, as long as the Lebanese are a bunch of tribes of different Gods they will point the guns at each other.
      A government is for country and people as one. Under Lebanon’s political system, the government’s top positions are divided among religions and sects. How crazy is this.
      On this site people talk about and support thier sects and groups how about supporting Lebanon as one.

  4. Oh so you guys are getting the government back together? Aww shucks, does that mean you won’t be killing each other in the streets again?

    1. Not as long we have you to shoot at.

    2. Not as long we have you to shoot at.

    3.  Avatar

      Rite on the mark agree with you, what has happened and what will happen, as long as the Lebanese are a bunch of tribes of different Gods they will point the guns at each other.
      A government is for country and people as one. Under Lebanon’s political system, the government’s top positions are divided among religions and sects. How crazy is this.
      On this site people talk about and support thier sects and groups how about supporting Lebanon as one.

  5. Lebman12 Avatar

    This was the waiting and planned opportunity of Hezbollah, next, a Hezbollah favored PM, I agree with Hannibal,, it’s the weapons dictate and not the voices,

  6.  Avatar

    This was the waiting and planned opportunity of Hezbollah, next, a Hezbollah favored PM, I agree with Hannibal,, it’s the weapons dictate and not the voices,

  7. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Any one who is thinking that a new cabinet will be formed is dreaming.
    M8 didn’t bring down the government to allow Hariri to form a new one on his own, Nor did they bring it down so that they could form their own government either.They look at Hamas’s experience with a government on their own and, they know that Government lead by M8 and HA will be doomed for isolation and failure.
    I think Lebanon is heading toward political vacuum. No chance for a transition government either. The situation is too serious to let a transitional government to handle. A transitional government isn’t a choice for either side.
    No new government,the care taking government of Hariri will be replaced by a military government after the president’s resignation.
    Sleiman was the result of Doha agreement. this agreement has collapsed, so will everyone that came with it.
    when the shit hits the fan, everyone will look for another city to host a national meeting .
    I know I sound very pessimistic. Well, pessimistic is an understatement.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      Answer me this: In ANY country where the majority wins they make a government and rule the country while the others join the opposition and prepare for the next election EXCEPT in Lebanon where the loser of the election gets to rule or dictate terms. WHY? The answer is simple: Weapons.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        hannibal,
        I never advocated for such scenario. I always faulted the opposition for joining the “unity government”
        It was the DOHA agreement that made this arrangement. This agreement is gone now, so will everyone who came as a result of it, including the president.
        That being said, You and I know that ,our election and the entire system of government does not really allow for a true majority to emerge and rule.But this is another subject.We’ve visited this subject more than once.

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          We are not ready for an alternate system because we do not really have a majority nor a minority. The Lebanese people are one through the ages. We share the same language, the same skin color, the same culture, the same food, the same customs. Sadly we vote with religion. Religion can never make a country. Look at Israel, a country for the Jews, Saudi Arabia, a country for the Sunnis, Iran, a country for the Shiites… I want a country for the Lebanese without the men of clothes (religious figures) dictating civil and political matters. When you say majority you mean by that the pure number of Lebanese practicing the Shiite faith (or born into the faith without practicing). I have moslem friends who do not give a crap about the religion they are born into and believe me many of them. But sadly if they were to choose politically they without blinking polarize towards a Moslem political system despite their rejection to islamic principles from the way they live everyday. These are educated, expats, moslem Lebanese. WE ARE NOT READY!

        2. Hannibal Avatar

          We are not ready for an alternate system because we do not really have a majority nor a minority. The Lebanese people are one through the ages. We share the same language, the same skin color, the same culture, the same food, the same customs. Sadly we vote with religion. Religion can never make a country. Look at Israel, a country for the Jews, Saudi Arabia, a country for the Sunnis, Iran, a country for the Shiites… I want a country for the Lebanese without the men of clothes (religious figures) dictating civil and political matters. When you say majority you mean by that the pure number of Lebanese practicing the Shiite faith (or born into the faith without practicing). I have moslem friends who do not give a crap about the religion they are born into and believe me many of them. But sadly if they were to choose politically they without blinking polarize towards a Moslem political system despite their rejection to islamic principles from the way they live everyday. These are educated, expats, moslem Lebanese. WE ARE NOT READY!

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Hannibal,
        I’m in total agreement that Lebanese are not ready to jump into an alternative system of government or election. But they are ready for a staged out system where they can begin adopting a new system. What ever process is set in place, will take time for people to get used to. Human behavior and attitude can be changed through laws and processes, not by sitting around waiting for a miracle. There has to be a starting point ,and this starting point will not be taking by Lebanese people on their own, unless you are expecting a revolution. Even a revolution, has objectives that people seek to accomplish; and I don’t see the people of Lebanon outraged over the issue of sectarianism for them to revolt against it, instead, they are becoming more sectarian with every time someone farts and every time (sectarianism is giving a dose of steroid. ) we have a crisis.
        If we sit around waiting fore the day Lebanese are ready for to adopt a new system, that day will never come.
        As long as we have this system in place, you will see the shiia becoming more shiia, the sunni becoming more sunni, Maronite becoming more Maronite, and so on. Educated or not, it makes no difference anymore, because being educated you still need a job which won’t come around unless you submit to the sect’s leadership. An educated secular Lebanese still needs a “wasta” to accomplish everything He needs. You and I know who has the “wasta”.
        A good start would be ; separation of state and religious institutions, forbid the media from airing any religious celebrations, close down any media outlet that speak for any particular sect or faith, and forbid any elected or state official from participating in any religious public activity, be it holiday greetings or celebration. DOES ANYONE HAS BALLS TO DO ANY OF THESE?

  8. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Any one who is thinking that a new cabinet will be formed is dreaming.
    M8 didn’t bring down the government to allow Hariri to form a new one on his own, Nor did they bring it down so that they could form their own government either.They look at Hamas’s experience with a government on their own and, they know that Government lead by M8 and HA will be doomed for isolation and failure.
    I think Lebanon is heading toward political vacuum. No chance for a transition government either. The situation is too serious to let a transitional government to handle. A transitional government isn’t a choice for either side.
    No new government,the care taking government of Hariri will be replaced by a military government after the president’s resignation.
    Sleiman was the result of Doha agreement. this agreement has collapsed, so will everyone that came with it.
    when the shit hits the fan, everyone will look for another city to host a national meeting .
    I know I sound very pessimistic. Well, pessimistic is an understatement.

    1. Answer me this: In ANY country where the majority wins they make a government and rule the country while the others join the opposition and prepare for the next election EXCEPT in Lebanon where the loser of the election gets to rule or dictate terms. WHY? The answer is simple: Weapons.

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        hannibal,
        I never advocated for such scenario. I always faulted the opposition for joining the “unity government”
        It was the DOHA agreement that made this arrangement. This agreement is gone now, so will everyone who came as a result of it, including the president.
        That being said, You and I know that ,our election and the entire system of government does not really allow for a true majority to emerge and rule.But this is another subject.We’ve visited this subject more than once.

        1. We are not ready for an alternate system because we do not really have a majority nor a minority. The Lebanese people are one through the ages. We share the same language, the same skin color, the same culture, the same food, the same customs. Sadly we vote with religion. Religion can never make a country. Look at Israel, a country for the Jews, Saudi Arabia, a country for the Sunnis, Iran, a country for the Shiites… I want a country for the Lebanese without the men of clothes (religious figures) dictating civil and political matters. When you say majority you mean by that the pure number of Lebanese practicing the Shiite faith (or born into the faith without practicing). I have moslem friends who do not give a crap about the religion they are born into and believe me many of them. But sadly if they were to choose politically they without blinking polarize towards a Moslem political system despite their rejection to islamic principles from the way they live everyday. These are educated, expats, moslem Lebanese. WE ARE NOT READY!

        2. We are not ready for an alternate system because we do not really have a majority nor a minority. The Lebanese people are one through the ages. We share the same language, the same skin color, the same culture, the same food, the same customs. Sadly we vote with religion. Religion can never make a country. Look at Israel, a country for the Jews, Saudi Arabia, a country for the Sunnis, Iran, a country for the Shiites… I want a country for the Lebanese without the men of clothes (religious figures) dictating civil and political matters. When you say majority you mean by that the pure number of Lebanese practicing the Shiite faith (or born into the faith without practicing). I have moslem friends who do not give a crap about the religion they are born into and believe me many of them. But sadly if they were to choose politically they without blinking polarize towards a Moslem political system despite their rejection to islamic principles from the way they live everyday. These are educated, expats, moslem Lebanese. WE ARE NOT READY!

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Hannibal,
        I’m in total agreement that Lebanese are not ready to jump into an alternative system of government or election. But they are ready for a staged out system where they can begin adopting a new system. What ever process is set in place, will take time for people to get used to. Human behavior and attitude can be changed through laws and processes, not by sitting around waiting for a miracle. There has to be a starting point ,and this starting point will not be taking by Lebanese people on their own, unless you are expecting a revolution. Even a revolution, has objectives that people seek to accomplish; and I don’t see the people of Lebanon outraged over the issue of sectarianism for them to revolt against it, instead, they are becoming more sectarian with every time someone farts and every time (sectarianism is giving a dose of steroid. ) we have a crisis.
        If we sit around waiting fore the day Lebanese are ready for to adopt a new system, that day will never come.
        As long as we have this system in place, you will see the shiia becoming more shiia, the sunni becoming more sunni, Maronite becoming more Maronite, and so on. Educated or not, it makes no difference anymore, because being educated you still need a job which won’t come around unless you submit to the sect’s leadership. An educated secular Lebanese still needs a “wasta” to accomplish everything He needs. You and I know who has the “wasta”.

  9. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    why do,nt you all divide the country in two states and save it from a complete destruction
    the march 14 state and the march 8 state this just an idea

  10.  Avatar

    why do,nt you all divide the country in two states and save it from a complete destruction
    the march 14 state and the march 8 state

  11. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    the best and only way for lebanon to be safe is to follow the un and the us advise

    1. That would be the worst thing to do. UN and US have their special interests and the care less if we live or die. History is a good teacher. Remember what happened to us Christians when one so called leader followed the US and the other followed France! We killed each other. Just don’t follow anyone. Think of Lebanon as number one, no fighting and no killing. Political disagreements are healthy, governments come and go. I’m happy as long as March 8 comes on top …..

  12. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    the best and only way for lebanon to be safe is to follow the un and the us advise

  13.  Avatar

    the best and only way for lebanon to be safe is to follow the un and the us advise

    1.  Avatar

      That would be the worst thing to do. UN and US have their special interests and the care less if we live or die. History is a good teacher. Remember what happened to us Christians when one so called leader followed the US and the other followed France! We killed each other. Just don’t follow anyone. Think of Lebanon as number one, no fighting and no killing. Political disagreements are healthy, governments come and go. I’m happy as long as March 8 comes on top …..

  14.  Avatar

    the best and only way for lebanon to be safe is to follow the un and the us advise

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