50 years of occupation: A Palestinian’s daily commute through Israeli checkpoints

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Palestinian construction workers fight amongs themselves as they cram into a single lane at checkpoint 300 to enter israeli-occupied Jerusalem from Bethlehem, Israel on April 2, 2017. Thousands of palestinian men who are lucky enough to have work permits to enter the territory begin lining up to enter the checkpoint begining around 4 a.m. (Photo by Linda Davidson/The Washington Post)
Palestinian construction workers fight amongs themselves as they cram into a single lane at checkpoint 300 to enter Israeli-occupied Jerusalem from Bethlehem, Israel on April 2, 2017. Thousands of Palestinian men who are lucky enough to have work permits to enter the territory begin lining up to enter the checkpoint begining around 4 a.m. (Photo by Linda Davidson/The Washington Post)

Under starry skies, a young Palestinian Everyman wakes before dawn to begin his daily commute to work in Israel.

There are thousands like him. They are building Israel. Five or six mornings a week, long before the Muslim morning prayers, before the cocks crow, when packs of dogs still own the dumpsters, his alarm beeps. Today it is 3:30 a.m.

His name is Tarek Al Taweel. He is a Palestinian construction worker, not without skills. He builds modern high-rise apartments in a Jewish settlement in East Jerusalem, where a five-bedroom penthouse sells for $600,000.

The job is okay, he said. He makes 250 shekels, about $68 a day, twice what he would make in the West Bank. He works beside his father, uncles and brothers. They’re proud of their craftsmanship. They keep photographs on their mobile phones of their aluminum work, fine carpentry, elaborate tiling.

It’s not the work. It’s the Israeli checkpoint. “I hate it,” Taweel told us. The daily crossing drains him. It makes him feel that life is desperate and ugly.

“Sometimes I wake up in the morning and I don’t want to go to the checkpoint. Sometimes I put my head back on the pillow,” Taweel said. “My wife will say to me, ‘You have to feed our child. Get up. Get up!’ And I get up and go.”

The Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip began 50 years ago in June.

Taweel turned 30 last year.

Like Taweel, four of every five Palestinians have never known anything but the occupation — an evolving system by which the Israeli military and intelligence services exert control over 2.6 million Arabs in the West Bank, with one system for Palestinians, another for Israelis.

This summer, the Israelis will celebrate their near-miraculous victory in the 1967 war, when in just six days, they took all of Jerusalem and their armed forces crushed the Arab armies thrown against them.

 On the other side, the Palestinians will mark a military occupation going on for so long that many Israelis barely seem to notice anymore, except the young soldiers sent to enforce it.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu refers to it, when he speaks of it at all, as “the so-called occupation.”

Some of his fellow citizens say there is really no occupation, because all the Land of Israel was awarded to the Jews by God. Other Israelis argue that Gaza is no longer occupied, because Israel unilaterally withdrew from the coastal strip a decade ago.

Whatever it is called, it appears to be never-ending. Shelves of books have been written about who is to blame for not making peace. Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama failed to find a “two-state solution.” President Trump says he wants to make “the deal of the century” between Israelis and Palestinians, and just spent two days here.

But what does it feel like? To be “occupied” in 2017, by a country that boasts to be the only democracy in the Middle East?

The first time we saw Taweel he wore dusty jeans and carried a plastic bag with a can of oily tuna fish and a short stack of pita bread. On the spur of the moment he agreed to be a guide of sorts, not only through the chaotic Israeli checkpoint he dreads, but the emotions felt, but not always expressed, at the crossing between his worlds.

His father cautioned him that speaking to two journalists, even for an American newspaper, could jeopardize his permission to enter Israel.

“The permit is life,” the father told us.

The Israeli domestic security service, Shin Bet, keeps voluminous files on Palestinians, and it denies and revokes work, travel and medical permits every day, and need give no more reason than “security.”

“I don’t care,” Taweel said. “It’s okay.”

Embarking in the dark

It is dark outside his family’s three-story home in Hebron when we arrive to follow Taweel on his daily commute.

Although it might take him three or four hours to get to his construction site in East Jerusalem, the entire trip is only 20 miles as the crow flies.

His uncles, brothers and their families live in the kind of extended family compound many Palestinians prefer. A little after 4 a.m., the first lamps appear in the windows, just for a minute, switched on, then off, as if someone is looking for a lost boot and doesn’t want to wake everyone inside.

One of his uncles comes out to offer a cup of coffee. “We leave in the dark and return in the dark,” he said.

“It’s unnatural.”

Taweel has a high school diploma and a handsome face that is hard to read. He’s got hazel eyes, square shoulders and an athletic build.

He is recently married, and when we see him away from the checkpoint, with his family, he doesn’t look anxious, but alive with pleasure. Nine months ago, his wife gave birth to a chubby-cheeked boy they dress in cute little track suits.

Taweel is skilled at stonework, drywall and plaster. His competence got him a job.

But it was his baby that got him his permit.

Israel is closed to Palestinians without travel or work permits, except for residents of East Jerusalem, who have a special status. Palestinian women over 50 and men over 55 may enter for a day without a permit from the West Bank, if the checkpoints are open. All Palestinians living in Gaza need special permission.

Construction workers from the West Bank who seek permits must generally be at least 23 years old, married, and have a child, so Taweel could not get an Israeli work permit until his son was born.

Today there are more than a hundred kinds of permits issued by the Israeli military authority for movement.

A permit to travel or study abroad, pray at the Jerusalem holy sites, visit relatives, attend a wedding or funeral, get medical treatment and work on the other side of the separation barrier.

To get out of Gaza — which is under the control of the Islamist militant movement Hamas, a terrorist organization — is even harder. Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005 but still maintains a land, sea and air blockade with restrictions on travel and trade. No Palestinians from Gaza commute to work in Israel.

Taweel’s work permit allows him to enter Israel in the early morning, but he must leave by the end of the day.

The Israeli intelligence officers assume that family men like Taweel are not only less likely to carry out terrorist attacks, but less likely to commit any crimes — such as smuggling or spending the night in Israel — for fear of losing their permit.

Around 4:20 a.m., Taweel and six co-workers walk to the end of their street and pile into a van for the ride to Bethlehem. Everyone but the driver immediately nods off.

Taweel said, “More sleep is a blessing.”

Heading north on two-lane Highway 60, they pass the Palestinian town of Saer, home to many construction workers and also a dozen of the young stabbers and car-rammers in last year’s wave of violence, which left 35 Israelis dead.

Across the highway is Kiryat Arba, the Jewish settlement infamous as the home to the American-born physician Baruch Goldstein, who massacred 29 Muslim worshipers with a machine gun at the Cave of the Patriarchs in 1994.

Taweel’s van speeds toward a crossing called Checkpoint 300, or Checkpoint Rachel, because it abuts the Tomb of Rachel, the biblical matriarch, a shrine sacred to Muslims and Christians and considered one of the holiest for Jews.

Checkpoint 300 passes through Israel’s high concrete walls, tagged with Palestinian graffiti and Banksy murals, erected during the second intifada, or uprising, in the early 2000s, when Palestinian suicide bombers were targeting Israeli civilians.

The crossing today is the scene of frequent clashes between young Palestinians throwing rocks and burning tires, and young Israeli soldiers who fire tear gas, rubber-coated bullets and live ammunition.

Into the scrum

It’s now almost 5 a.m. Bethlehem is asleep, only the bakeries are bright. But as the convoys of taxis, vans and buses reach the checkpoint, men stir and rush toward Israel’s separation barrier, here a 26-foot-tall cement wall with watch towers.

There are already swelling crowds. It’s a Sunday, busiest day of the week, with thousands of men shoving forward, squirming under fluorescent bulbs.

Taweel was not ready to risk the crush. He is perched above the entrance to the checkpoint on the Bethlehem side, squatting on his heels, elevated on the rubble of an old stone wall, watching the shoving match below.

“It’s too crazy,” he said. “Let’s wait.”

Taweel saw his impatient uncles and brothers shoulder first into the scrum, followed by his father. They pushed on the back of the man in front. His father smiled weakly up at his eldest son through the bars. Father and son looked sad.

Later, Taweel explained that they were ashamed that a foreigner had come to watch such a spectacle.

A few years earlier, Taweel’s father suffered cracked ribs, when he was crushed at the checkpoint. An uncle with high blood pressure once fainted and had to be rescued. During our visit to the checkpoint, one man had a heart attack and another with asthma collapsed.

“You never, ever want to fall down,” Taweel warned.

There are now 70,000 Palestinians working legally in Israel, most of them in construction, plus an additional 30,000 to 50,000 working without permits, who scramble through drainage pipes and scale walls with grappling hooks and handmade ladders, to enter Israel.

There’s no panic this morning. Real panic is rare. But you could see easily how it could happen, like a stampede at a rock concert or a soccer stadium.

It looks a little scary, we said.

“It is scary,” Taweel said.

There are 13 major crossings that allow Palestinians with work permits like Taweel’s to enter Israel. Palestinians will argue which checkpoint is the slowest, fastest, the most crowded, the easiest, with the rudest or most professional soldiers or private security, and the most vile toilets.
Some crossings have vastly improved. But Palestinians say Checkpoint 300 is still one of the worst.Thousands of workers from all over the southern West Bank must squeeze through each morning. There are no real alternatives. If you’re from Hebron and work in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, it is the straightest line.As we watched the crush, the Palestinians we asked conjured fantastical words in Arabic to describe the experience to come.

First the workers say they’re funneled into “cages,” the long barred passageways, then jammed into “chicken pluckers,” the clicking turnstiles. Then they pass through the “aquariums,” where the bored Israeli soldiers sit behind thick bulletproof glass, matching green IDs to faces.

It doesn’t take a psychologist to see the meanings behind the metaphors. The Palestinians say the words all describe animals in a zoo.

The crowds were thinning a bit. The line was moving.

After about 30 minutes, Taweel said, “Let’s go.”

‘They do it deliberately’

The men are wearing work clothes still dirty from the day before. The older ones in coats and the young in hoodies. They are rugged-looking, a lot of them skinny, with hacking coughs. They are carrying table saws and joint knives.

The men move as a kind of wave, back and forth, two steps forward, a step back.

On this side of the separation barrier, there are no Israeli soldiers or security. No Palestinian police either. The movement forward is by remote control of the Israelis watching closed-circuit TV screens. Once into the chute, we stand three shoulders abreast, every part of your body touching someone or something.

The men smoke cigarettes to the filter, even in the lines. Vendors sell paper cups of coffee, which are passed through the bars. The men joke, flash anger, and check their phones.

The later it gets, the more the workers begin to push.

As Taweel gets closer to the turnstiles, Palestinians are climbing over the bars and almost stepping on our heads.

The workers call them “wall crawlers” and “snakes,” the young who jump over and slither under the bars to cut the line. Those who did not cut in lines said the crawlers demeaned themselves — and that this was intentional, that the Israelis wanted this to happen. Why else would they let these conditions persist year after year, they asked.

When ordinary Palestinian workers at Checkpoint 300 are asked what it feels like to be “occupied,” they use three words, consistently. Frustration. Humiliation. Pressure.

With the word “pressure” they sometimes grabbed their chests, mimicking a heart attack, or held their hands together and squeezed, like it felt in the cages.

“I think they do it deliberately, to put us in our place,” said Abu Rafat, 51, a stout barrel of a man with gray hair, a tile worker.

Before we enter the crossing, Abu Rafat points at a scrawny man hovering at the edge of our conversation. The man is growing anxious, keeps looking at his mobile phone, because if he doesn’t make it through the crossing by 7 a.m., his ride to Tel Aviv will leave without him and his boss will dock a day’s wages.

“Look at his eyes,” Abu Rafat said. “Does he want to kill himself? Or somebody else? You can’t tell.”

We reach the turnstile. Three men crowd into a space for one. It is locked, then opened, then locked. You can’t see by whom — a distant security officer or young soldier.

“Watch your hands,” someone shouted.

Taweel and others rush toward the aquariums. They rip off their belts. Their things are scanned. They passed through metal detectors. They press their thumbs on fingerprint readers.

If the workers don’t make it to their job site, they also lose money because most pay a Palestinian broker (who likely pays a cut to an Israeli contractor) 2,000 shekels, or $550, a month in excess “commissions,” charges that both the workers and Israeli government consider a bribe.

The work permit system has been condemned by Israeli human rights groups, as well as the Bank of Israel, as riven by corruption. The Palestinian workers are as likely to blame their own people as the Israelis.

“Permit millionaires,” one laborer described the middlemen.

“Scammers,” said another. “Thieves.”

A worker with a bristly beard and hands like sandpaper, named Abu Omar, 42, said: “We’ve lost our leaders. Our government doesn’t care.”

He waves toward the checkpoint. “Look at us,” he said. “We’re sheep without a shepherd.”

On the Israeli side, Taweel runs toward his ride.

He is late for work.

Washington Post

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438 responses to “50 years of occupation: A Palestinian’s daily commute through Israeli checkpoints”

  1. man-o-war Avatar
    man-o-war

    Human stockyards?

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      InHuman treatment. The sad part is that they are building themselves out of a homeland. The world watches silently. Especially those rich Arab bastards.

      1. Thank goodness they can always rely on their poor “Phoenician” brothers to help them out. Or was it “kick ’em out”, actually? 🙂

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          You got it right… We do not want them and they do not want to stay… They must go back home.

          1. “and they do not want to stay”
            Who can blame them? But then, of course, we both know that their good sense can’t be relied upon. So you have to keep them herded in camps – preferably surrounded by walls – with the hobeikas guiding the entrances. How very brotherly of you. 🙂

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You made Hobeika and then killed him before he went to give you up in the courts of Belgium. How explosive of you 😉

          3. Yawn.

          4. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Yawn means I win ;P

          5. please don’t be ethological, in the end victory is shared by everyone, good you are not aggressive)

  2. Niemals Avatar
    Niemals

    The Palestinian Arabs lack self-esteem, therefore, they work on the Israeli market instead of building their own community – https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bfec126dbe828b5f36cb161ecaa4de4f6f0bf425abb81277f8fef83c63a7b098.jpg House of Palestinian businessman Mohamed Abdel-Hadi. while the top leaders stops the money in their own pocket for their luxury palaces.

    But the ordinary Palestinian Arabs don’t have the same space for their homes… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e925f5d0943d577a27f4ce693b799bc568f9f2a5745f16adf83878fa255656a.jpg as in refugee camp Beit Jibrin in Bethlehem.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f082da3471a933596b3bcb4879bd4178d18cf2be409672e12b7dc0781d609c71.jpg or Deheishe refugee camp in Bethlehem.

    Talking about 50 years of occupation without any solidarity from ONE of the compatriots – like Mohamed Abdel-Had, a businessman….

    By the way, given the UN definition of a refugee is someone “outside the country of his nationality,” how can there be refugees living within the Palestinian Authority?

    1. wargame1 Avatar
      wargame1

      Iran bought “Iron Dome” defense system from Israel via Azerbaijan a majority Shi’ite state in the north. Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev was speaking during a state visit to Baku by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the purpose of which, in part, is to help Israel sell arms, reportedly missile-defense systems. Israel agreed (DECEMBER 13, 2016) to sell nearly $5 billion of its infamous “Iron Dome” defense system to Iran’s northern neighbor, Azerbaijan, in a mutually beneficial trade deal.

      http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-looking-to-sell-missile-defense-systems-to-Azerbaijan-475242

      https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2016/12/15/israel-sells-5-billion-of-weapons-to-irans-neighbour

      1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
        Ilami-Gilaki

        Good 🙂

      2. Rudy1947 Avatar
        Rudy1947

        No where did I see in these articles that Iran bought the Iran Dome systems.

  3. Andre Avatar

    You would think the European Jews – occupying the holy land – of all people, would understand how not to mistreat human beings. But then again hate and ignorance blinds one’s mind.

    1. mental masturbation?

    2. Niemals Avatar
      Niemals

      You must mean American Jews, as we have a lot of Israeli immigrants (mainly in Berlin) and they aren’t European Jews…
      Berlin has a lower cost of living and a growing community of Israelis.

      1. Omega Avatar

        Why do you think so many European Jews go back to where they came from originally?

        1. Omega Avatar

          Israel is England’s vassal state. Jews are the Zionists’ pawns.

    3. You would think that a Lebanese Christian would be considerably less dumb than his Muslim compatriots. Alas, that’s a common misconception (Menachem Begin actually fell for it). 🙂

  4. Ramallah does not paid benefits to terrorists released from Israeli prisons from this month

  5. Omega Avatar

    The Zionists make the Nazis looks like a bunch of amateurs.

    1. You are neoneoNazi OmegaHell corrupted idiot

      1. Not much “neo” about him. I’d say he’s pretty old-school.

      2. Omega Avatar

        Double neo? Do I get more stripes?

    2. Sure those who slaughtered thousands of Palestinian children and women in Sabra and Shatila were Zionist ?????

      OR YOUR NAZI CHRISTIAN BROTHERS !

      1. Actually, Hobeika was the best, holiest kind of Christian: killing Muslims and getting paid by the Assads for his troubles. 🙂

      2. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Exactly … They were zionists led by Ariel Sharon. How did you know?

        1. Yep, Hobeika was a real Sharon groupie. That’s why he insisted on receiving his salary from the Assads. 🙂

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Yep, he changed camp because a low life like him would when he saw that the jooz lost Lebanon and that the Syrians were gaining control. He was a thug and ONLY thugs employed him, namely Syrians and Israelis. You are so much alike it’s uncanny.

          2. “You are so much alike”
            I don’t look like Hobeika at all, retard. But you’re still sweet. 🙂

          3. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Israelis = Syrians 😉

          4. Arameans

        2. Niemals Avatar
          Niemals

          The Sabra and Shatila massacre resulted in a killing of between 762 and 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites.
          The militia close to the Kataeb Party, also called Phalange, a predominantly Christian Lebanese right-wing party in the Sabra neighborhood and the adjacent Shatila refugee camp in Beirut.

          The massacre was presented as retaliation for the assassination of Bachir Gemayel, the leader of the Lebanese Kataeb Party.
          It was wrongly assumed that Palestinian militants had carried out the assassination.

          Ariel Sharon was accused “for ignoring the danger of bloodshed and revenge”.

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            How is Wikipedia doing for you? Copy paste much? I was there and saw. There was NO way the Phalangist could make that jump into the heart of West Beirut. They were brought in by the occupying forces du jour the IADF and set free to kill anything that moves. The forces sent in were the sadem forces. Guys with half brains and used to dope. Sharon knew exactly what he was doing. Shortly after, God put him into a coma and dispatched him with a one way ticket to hell as He did with Ariel’s accomplice Hobayka.

          2. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            Wikipedia is helping me, after all it is a Jewish creation and controlled by the Zionists…

          3. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Wikipedant…the new Babel Tower.

          4. Omega Avatar

            How’s the bold and italicized syntax working for you, leech?

        3. Hannibal – YOUR BROTHERS THE CHRISTIAN LEBANESE slaughtered thousands of Palestinians children and Women, Only Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre, and only a typical asshole like you can make a joke out of it.

          1. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You know jack, Jack. It was ALL Sharon’s doing executed by doped nitwits who did Israel’s bid. The ONLY culprit savage in the history of mankind outdoing Ivan the terrible and Hitler is Israel and its IADF (Israel Attack Dogs Forces).

          2. Hannibal – playing your infantile games want help you
            YOUR BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN EXECUTED THE SLAUGHTER.,up to 3500 Palestinian civilians, mostly women, children, and the elderly, were slaughtered in one of the worst atrocities in modern Middle Eastern history.
            Only The Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre.

            Will you reject that those who execute the slaughter, that shot the children and women were “LEBANESE CHRISTIAN”‘, let see you reject and make an asshole out of you.

          3. Don’t be fake, Hannibal “The only way to make sense of this garbage is to conclude that Sharon
            must have ordered the Phalangists to do it — which obviously he didn’t —
            or that he was clairvoyant — which obviously he wasn’t; and knew in
            advance exactly what was going to happen” https://ukmediawatch.org/2014/01/14/a-typical-guardian-distortion-about-ariel-sharon-and-sabrashatila-massacre/

          4. Want help your desperate attempt to invent the facts:

            YOUR BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN EXECUTED THE SLAUGHTER.,up to 3500 Palestinian civilians, mostly women, children, and the elderly, were slaughtered in one of the worst atrocities in modern Middle Eastern history.
            Only The Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre.

            Will you reject that those who execute the slaughter, that shot the children and women were “LEBANESE CHRISTIAN”‘, let see you reject and make an asshole out of you.

          5. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            I assumes you are referring to the horrible Qana massacre on April 18, 1996, when the Israel Defense Forces fired artillery shells at a United Nations compound.

          6. “On April 11, after initial strikes against Hezbollah positions, the Israeli government, through South Lebanon Army
            (SLA) radio stations, warned residents in forty-four towns and villages
            in southern Lebanon to evacuate within twenty-four hours” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qana_massacre political wikipedia calls war “massacre”

      3. Omega Avatar

        I hope you didn’t blow a facial never when you wrote that. The Sabra and Shatila was perpetrated by degenerate-zealot Lebanese Christians and Israel.

        One incident does not make of a people Nazis. The Zionists’ behavior since the 1930s (terrorism, theft of lands, oppression, segregation, violence, etc) does.

        1. LEBANON Nazi treatment of the Palestinians for the last 70 years:
          *The Palestinians do not have Lebanese citizenship
          * No identity cards,
          * Are legally barred from owning property
          * Legally barred form entering a list of desirable occupations.
          * Are not granted much access to the social services .

          This is Nazi Lebanon..

          1. Arzna Avatar

            Lebanon has given many Palestinians , Lebanese ID cards in the fifties , but , being such a tiny country cannot afford to give all those who escape to Lebanon ID cards .
            Can you imagine giving ID cards to all those who fled to Lebanon? Lebanon would have one million Kurds , 2 million Syrians, 1 million Iraqis and 1 million Palestinians . Being a 4 million people country , the Lebanese will be the minority in their own country .
            You have to have reasonable expectations . take the number of Syrians in Lebanon today they are on capita basis equivalent to having 75 million new immigrants in the US .
            Besides Palestinians’ real country is occupied Palestine and not Lebanon, they were allowed entry into Lebanon on a temporary basis for humanitarian reasons.

          2. Give me a break with all the explanations
            Fact is they are there for 70 Years treated like shit …. those are your ARAB BROTHERS.
            That’s why Lebanon is a Nazi racist state, those are your Arab Brothers, they are there to stay, But Lebanon decided to be a Nazi state .

          3. Arzna Avatar

            Tried to explain situation in a logical manner but obviously you have an agenda of your own and are not willing to accept solid facts .
            Next time I will completely ignore you. You obviously don’t give a shit about Lebanon, and all you care is about Israel and you are in here to sabotage our country

          4. You are totally wrong.

            I am realistic, living in the present and looking for the future, there are PRESENT situation everyone has to deal with and not cover issues.
            In any solutions, the Palestinians in Lebanon are going to stay where they are, Even the Palestinians know that and I am sure Lebanon knows it as well.
            Hopefully if the Palestinians are going to have a state, maybe they will accept some back, in case they would like to go , as those are 4th generation Lebanese.

            BTW – You write “Being a 4 million people country , the Lebanese will be the minority in their own country .” you just named the reason, why Israel will never ever accept the Palestinians back, or is it what’s good for Lebanon, is ONLY good for Lebanon and not for someone else..
            I don’t have to Sabotage Lebanon, Lebanon dose it by itself all the time.
            50 years ago, most Israelis were sure that the first Arab country we will have peace with , is going to be Lebanon………

          5. Omega Avatar

            50 years ago, most Israelis were sure that the first Arab country we will have peace with , is going to be Lebanon………

            You thieving, lying, inbred, pagan thugs may have convinced the dumb Americans that you’re got righteous one on the land but it doesn’t work with the people of the Middle East. Why do you think your filthy kind if so hated? Because we know what you thugs did: stole, kill, rape, displace, oppress, repeat for the past 70+ years.

            Now, let me read your repeat the (non sequitur) Sabra and Shatila incident.

          6. не захлебнись слюной, идиот

          7. I see the Foam coming out of your mouth.
            Take you pills psycho.
            not enough curses …… you should take a cursing course.
            Love and peace senile.
            but not in your time, you will die miserable and bitter……

          8. Omega Avatar

            Keep projecting Jacko. 🙂

          9. Arzna Avatar

            Россия – ваша страна. Вы живете на оккупированной территории. Не притворяйтесь, что вы действительно заботитесь о палестинцах. Вы украли их землю и не обвиняете Ливан в собственных ошибках

          10. Sorry …… but I don’t understand Jiberish

          11. Arzna continuing mental masturbation in Russian

          12. and I thought she is a devoted Lebanese……

          13. But who is really Lebanese, we sorry see Orabization everywhere, also in Lebanon. Thank You for Your comments, Jack)

          14. Omega Avatar

            Lebanon did not steal anyone’s land, falsely claim to descend from a people they have no relations to, did not go on decade-long terror campaign, did not have ties to Nazis in Germany and Fascists in Italy, kill, rape, displace the inhabitants of the land it stole, does not continue stealing lands, does not oppress a people for the past 50 years, does not arrest children randomly, does not kill civilians, does not segregate in prison-like corners, does not lie they have been attacked for the past 50 years, etc.

            IsraHell did, does.

          15. “1 million Palestinians”

            There are 450,000 UNRWA-registered Palestinian Arabs living in Lebanon, most of whom were born there and do not qualify as “refugees” by any normal definition. No need to invent numbers out of thin air.

          16. Omega Avatar

            I understand you’re not much of a man but give it a try and be accountable.

            There would be no Palestinians and/or refugees (in Lebanon and elsewhere in the Middle East) if your filthy, thieving, inbred, pagan, Khazarian parents and grand-parents had respected the 1948 UN Partition and had not stolen 60% of what was given to the Palestinians.

          17. Falsetinians are your wild (sorry widespread) mental masturbation, idiot OmegaHell. They are usual politically corrected Orabians. No need start wars against jews so you will not receive what you have. You are internet idiot continuing war against Israel

          18. Omega Avatar

            The Palestinians did not start a war on the secular Zionist you call Jews. When the Brits left in 1948, the Zionists attacked an unarmed population (Christian and Muslim Palestinians), killed, raped, seized towns/villages (http://bit.ly/2sykIKL) and displaced them. After the give Arab countries stepped in to restore peace, the Zionists went even more mad and repelled them to steal 60% of the land Partition given to the Palestinians in 1948. Educated yourself and be accountable.

          19. still fake, slander and mental masturbation, chosen selected “facts” not in context. stop your war against Israel, idiot

          20. Arzna Avatar

            If Lebanon allowed more Palestinian immigration there would have been much more than one million Palestinians in Lebanon. I was not inventing numbers nor was I talking about those registered by UNRWA in my above post. I am talking about the restrictions imposed on immigration of foreigners into Lebanon

          21. Omega Avatar

            Precisely. Just because you host a guest to help that you have to give them your house.

          22. Omega Avatar

            What did I say? -> Why do I sense you will go on another series or hysterical rants, manic-depressive tantrums and dumb repetitive comments?

          23. OmegaHell, please stop repeat yourself
            almost everytime. But have you something to say except civilization is bad?

          24. Omega Avatar

            This isn’t about civilization, it’s about your body Jack who uses conjectures and/or non sequitur repeatedly because he lacks knowledge on pretty much everything.

          25. Omega Avatar

            I never doubted he was okay for you. He regurgitates the same Zionist lies and distortions.

          26. пнх hateful idiot

      4. Leborigine Avatar
        Leborigine

        Those Christian brothers did not go into Sabra & Shatila just to kill for no reason!! What the palestinians did in Damour was enough to cause rage in any Lebanese Christian. Lets not forget about that. The palestinians started something and then cry foul. I do not see any apologies for the rape, pillaging and theft of our nuns and churches in Damour and Chikka!
        The Sabra & Shatila story is becoming like the holocaust!

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          The Sabra & Shatila story is becoming like the holocaust! LOL
          We should write a book: The Sabra and Shatila Industry

          1. Sadly, you can’t write for shit, so it ain’t happening. 🙂

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Here is a title for you:
            The Sabra and Shatila Industry
            Parallels with the holocaust industry
            By Hannibal and YK

        2. Omega Avatar

          Chekka was in retaliation to the Guardian of the Cedars (ally with the SLA) who had killed Palestinians down south. I know few people in Chekka (friends of my parents) and based on their accounts, the killers who spoke a ‘strange’ Arabic (unlike Lebanese, Syrian or Palestinian) came from Tripoli, went straight through Anfeh without stopping and arrived in Chekka to look for specific people. A rat in town (paradoxically, a Christian) pointed at the houses where members of the Guardian of the Cedars lived. Unfortunately, may innocent people intern (including regrant women) were killed randomly as most of the Guardian of the Cedars were not on town that day/time.

          The Zionist State used the zealot Lebanese Christians like cheap condoms in making them do the dirty work (kill Palestinians). Once done, the Zionists were done with the Lebanese Christians, Ehud Barak garbaged them to the side of the road. I hope the SLA enjoys their Kosher lifestyle in IsraHell with the descendants of pagan Khazarian thugs.

          Most of the chaos in Lebanon can be attributed to the apartheid, Nazi-Fascit-Zionist State of IsraHell. Had they respected the 1948 UN Partition and not stolen 60% of what was given to the Palestinians (after killing, raping and displacing them), there would be no Palestinian refugees in Lebanon (and elsewhere). To add insult to injury, they keep on stealing their lands and the ones of surrounding countries every since their inception.

          1. Why Lebanon started with Orabians war against jews, hateful idiot OmegaHell? не захлебнись слюной

          2. Lebanon did not start a war with Arabs against Jews, you top-class dimwit.

          3. “The Lebanese army joined the other Orab armies in the invasion” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict#1948_Arab.E2.80.93Israeli_War dimwit is you, corrupted hateful idiot

          4. Lebanon did not join to invade anyone or anything. Lebanon joined the other Arab countries to restore peace in Palestine (not Israel) after the Zionists went on a killing spread, raping and displacing upwards of 800,000 Palestinians from their ancestral lands. The five Arab counties publicly that they found “themselves compelled to intervene under Article 10e of the UN Charter for the sole purpose of restoring peace and security and establishing law and order in Palestine.” The Zionists repulsed the Arab nations from parts of the newly occupied territories, thus extending its borders beyond the original UNSCOP partition.

            Israel self declared as a nation and then applied to join the UN in violation of the 1933 Treaty of Montevideo requiring all member states to declare their borders. This was because they were still stealing more land at the time and have never declared their borders ever since.

          5. OmegaHell fairytale

          6. What are you going to tell me next? That Israel was not built on the mass-expuslion of Palestinians?

          7. Idiot, there are 21% of peaceful Orabians of Israeli population not left. F.e. Ibdis inhabitants left: “Formerly village depopulated during 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

            This is one of the many villages that had been deserted by its
            inhabitants during the war of 1948. The vandals Orab leaders, for their
            selfless people, they leave the village with the false promise of
            “rapidly eliminating Israel and return promptly” http://old.wikimapia.org/#lat=31.6210971&lon=34.7235553&z=12&l=0&m=b&show=/5281143/Ibdis So called in Soviet KGB “Falestinians” is your mental masturbation, they are usual Orabians

          8. Deserted? You mean displaced by the Zionist after they went on a rampage, killing, raping, attacked towns and villages.

          9. stop your false slander, idiot, jews are not wild orabians. Concentrate yourself on Syria and Lebanon, but you corrupted idiot OmegaHell everywhere see only jews to blame

          10. Nothing to do with Jews and/or Judaism. It’s about Zionism (a Nazi-Fascist political ideology) and Britain’s Israel-project (where Jews have been used like toilet paper). Historical facts are not slander. They just happen to bother dimwits like you.

          11. dimwit nazi is you, пнх

    3. But I thought the Nazis were actually great guys? They killed ’em Jooz, after all. Not that any of the killings actually happened, as every self-respecting Resister knows. 🙂

      1. Omega Avatar

        I don’t know what you’re raving about but I can tell you that Nazism and Zionism are one and the same. Look at how they each behave, the mentality, etc.

        1. I am only looking at you when I need to go, pal. In order to make sure I don’t miss your face.

          1. Omega Avatar

            I don’t know if you had a rough childhood but your behavior today exhibits serious psychological issues. You should read what you post from time to time – it’s sad.

        2. I don’t know what you’re raving about but I can tell you that the Nazis and Lebanon are one and the same. Look at how they each behave, the mentality, etc.

          CHRISTIAN LEBANESE Nazi’s entered Sabra and Shatila and began a slaughter that caused outrage around the world, up to 3500 Palestinian civilians, mostly women, children, and the elderly, were slaughtered in one of the worst atrocities in modern Middle Eastern history.

          LEBANON Nazi treatment of the Palestinians for the last 70 years:
          *The Palestinians do not have Lebanese citizenship
          * No identity cards,
          * Are legally barred from owning property
          * Legally barred form entering a list of desirable occupations.
          * Are not granted much access to the social services .

          This is Nazi Lebanon.

          1. Omega Avatar

            The Sabra and Shatila massacre was perpetrated by degenerate/zealot Lebanese Christians and Israel. Both were complicit and in fault. One incident does not make of the Lebanese and/or Lebanon Nazis. The Zionists behavior since the 1930s (terrorism, theft of lands, oppression of the inhabitants, segregation, arresting children, attacking civilians, etc) does.

            Palestinians were supposed to be temporary refugees after the Zionists went on a rampage, killing, raping and displacing upwards of 800,000 Palestinians. Lebanon took them. The Lebanese Army does not attack them, arrest them, oppress them, kill them. Just because you invite someone to your house that you have to give him your house and move out. Try harder.

          2. Spare your time with your invented info.
            FACTS:
            YOUR BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN EXECUTED THE SLAUGHTER.,up to 3500 Palestinian civilians, mostly women, children, and the elderly, were slaughtered in one of the worst atrocities in modern Middle Eastern history.
            Only The Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre.

            Will you reject that those who execute the slaughter, that shot the children and women were “LEBANESE CHRISTIAN”‘, let see you reject and make an asshole out of you.

          3. Omega Avatar

            And again. -> Why do I sense you will go on another series or hysterical rants, manic-depressive tantrums and dumb repetitive comments?

            Can’t reject such historical incident but you omit Israel’s complicity. You might want to know the IDF planned the massacre with the Lebanese Phalange and was instrumental in the crime (shot flares in the sky to pinpoint the location of the village and light up the area).

          4. please stop your slander, OmegaHell

          5. You see senile, I care about facts.
            YOUR NAZI BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN EXECUTED THE SLAUGHTER.
            Only The Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre, it was known that they are Nazi’s
            so you better shut up.

          6. Omega Avatar

            And again. Where does Israel fit in that incident? Peace keepers? (laughing)

          7. They were there
            but who were the killers, those who slaughtered the children and women in cold blood.
            YOUR NAZI BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN EXECUTED THE SLAUGHTER.
            Only The Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre, it was known that they are Nazi’s

          8. Omega Avatar

            It’s too funny to see you repeat the same conjecture and/or non sequitur ad nauseam.

          9. That’s the Psycho reaction….. YOUR NAZI BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN EXECUTED THE SLAUGHTER.
            and you think it’s funny.

          10. Omega Avatar

            What’s funny is how you have nothing to say and resort at repeating the same conjectures and non sequitur to cover up your abysmal ignorance and cunningness.

            Here are more correlation between Zionists and Jews:

            • Hitler’s personal driver was Jewish. So were eighteen (18) of his staff officers.

            • After going on a rampage, killing, raping, massacring, attacking towns and villages, the Zionists stole everything they could put their filthy paws on. Here is an account of the early days:

            I’ve received a letter on the subject. I must say that I have known what things have been like for some time and I have raised the issue several times already here. However after reading this letter I couldn’t sleep last night. I felt the things that were going on were hurting my soul, the soul of my family and all of us here. I could not imagine where we came from and to where are we going. . . . But now Jews too have behaved like Nazis and my entire being has been shaken . . . . Obviously we have to conceal these actions from the public, and I agree that we should not even reveal that we’re investigating them. But they must be investigated. The First Israelis, 1949, p. 26

          11. That’s what I wanted.
            To see the real Jew Hater Omega
            You are nothing but a Jew Hater, that’s your Agenda and everything you comment about.

          12. Omega Avatar

            I can almost hear the violin.

          13. I am sure you heard Violin when your Christian Brothers executed the Massacre too.

          14. Omega Avatar

            Keep diverting. Zionism = Nazism.

          15. OmegaHell = mental onanism

          16. Omega Avatar

            I knew:

            – the IDF surrounded the Sabra neighborhood next to the Shatila refugee camp in south Beirut

            – fired flares in the sky to pinpoint the location and lit the area

            – allowed the degenerate Phalange to massacre civilians

            But not that they (the IDF) also played the violin while the killing was happening.

          17. – It was known that Your BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN are Nazi’s

            – Only The Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre, it was known that they are Nazi’s

            – YOUR NAZI BROTHERS THE LEBANESE CHRISTIAN EXECUTED THE SLAUGHTER.
            Only The Christians Lebanese savages were capable to do and execute such a massacre, it was known that they are Nazi’s

            Senile, even if you delete your comment, it is been sent to me so……..
            Keep diverting. Lebanon = Nazism

          18. Omega Avatar

            Do you notice you repeat yourself (read: your non-sense) when you have nothing to say and/or make stuff up? It’s rather comical. Like a child who learns to argue: but, but, but ..

            Correct, I deleted my comment to write a lengthier one. You must have got that one too.

          19. Omega Avatar

            Aliens, Jewish bankers. You sure don’t skip a beat to divert from the topic in hand: that Zionism is Nazism.

          20. You mean Lebanon = Nazism

          21. I don’t mind repeating since you’re slow: Zionists/Zionism had very close ties to Nazism before and during WW2 – they used and abused the Jews (who, paradoxically, ended up worshiping them). After stealing Palestine, the Zionists inspired a Nazi-Fascist-regime on the Palestinians.

          22. You are hateful nazist mental masturbator on jews, OmegaHell, пнх faker

          23. How?

          24. I have seen your Aliens inventions in other Neo Nazi sites you comment in.
            Hitler was a puppet….. the Malta knights….. keep on with your conspiracy bull…..
            Not send over the coin……

          25. I did write that Hitler was a (British) puppet. The Knights of Malta was mentioned in relation to my father’s side of the family. The rest of your comment (aliens, neo-Nazi sites, etc) is nothing but bigger, and sillier lies – but if you have seen, then you should have no problem in showing me. Let me guess, you will divert/dilute some more while having another breakdown.

          26. “Omega to Walter • a year ago
            No offense, it’s nothing against you. I don’t refute the defeat of Nazis by the Red Army but I believe the “official” WWII story needs to be revised – especially when it comes to Jews and Israel. We must take into account 1) that the creation of Israel was in the works since the late 1800s:

            And 2) the major role Zionist bankers (Rothschild et al) played in financing Hitler, Nazis, Communism and the Bolsheviks:

            http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/…”

            Well if you Aint a scum Jew Hater Holocaust denier……

          27. Where do you read anything pertaining to aliens inventions and/or neo-nazi sites and/or Knights of Malta?

          28. Yes. The creation of Israel was indeed in the works since the mid/late 1800s by non-Jews in Britain. Zionist bankers did financed Hitler, Nazism, the Bolsheviks and Communism.

            How is my year old commentof any relevance to what you raved about: alien inventions, neo-nazi sites, Knights of Malta, etc?

          29. You promote and convince people to read theunhivedmind Nazi Site.

            “Omega to Laika Lammerink • a year ago
            “‘ISIS’. (talmudic Jews, Wahhabis, ‘Freemasons’, synagog of Sate)”
            Otherwise known as the Knights of Malta.”

            More of your Lunatic drivel

          30. Can you show me where I promote and convince people to do so? Also, can you send me a link where I supposedly wrote that? I am waiting.

          31. Omega the teacher….
            “Omega to Charlie7777 • a year ago
            You might want to have a look at the Knights of Malta. Zionists, neocons and everyone in between are under that one umbrella.”

          32. “Jack to Niemals • a year ago
            I always admired Hitler.”

            Are you beginning to understand? Where is the link?

          33. where is the link ???

          34. I guess you didn’t understand.

          35. “Omega • a year ago

            World > US (neo-cons) / IsraHell (zionists) > Rothschild > Vatican > Knights of Malta”

            It’s good that the average Lebanese, will get a sense of your psychotic views.

          36. Link?

          37. Thanks for the link but I don’t see anything of the sort.

          38. “Omega to zencowboy61 • a year ago

            There is an even bigger picture than the Rothschild … Knights of Malta.”

          39. Where is the link?

          40. To the readers…… put the string “There is an even bigger picture than the Rothschild … Knights of Malta” and search in google, it will take you to the Link:

            “Proof That Ukraine and Members of the EU Have Given up Their …
            russia-insider.com/en/node/12138
            Feb 15, 2016 – Omega • 1 year ago. There is an even bigger picture than the Rothschild … Knights of Malta. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo • 1 year ago.”

            http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/proof-ukraine-and-members-eu-have-given-their-sovereignty-us/ri12138

          41. Silly, insecure Jacko needs the support of readers. Months ago, you couldn’t provide a single shred of contradictory evidence/argument towards anything I presented and went on a series of ad hominem and manic-depressive tantrums to divert/dilute. You now take it a step further and make more stuff up. May I suggest you see a psychiatrist?

          42. Exactly and not exactly. It is a hidden people. (some will think “aliens”. I haven’t seen that myself, though we are all “aliens”). Linsey Williams knew a dozen of them, few were Judaists, contrary to what people assume (“few” of a dozen. As a pastor he would know all about that, his closest friends were Christians). “Jewish” is what we are supposed to think, to make us blind. Linsey Williams was shocked by their mentality.

            Omega • a year ago
            “it is older than the crusaders”
            “the same mafia wanting to run all countries”
            Knights of Malta come to mind.

          43. No clue what you’re raving about in the first part of your comment.

            Care to send a link for the second part?

          44. Search for it and delete it…… so the readers want expose your psycho conspiracy’s
            But you can never cancel the cashed

            I don’t write it for you senile.

            I write it for the readers, that will expose what a scum you are.

          45. Your lamentable, cowardly and insecure modus operandi is simple: you cannot attack the message with counter-arguments, knowledge, facts, etc so you go after the person. When that fails, you resort at seeking the attention of others. You did/do so with me and others.

          46. I sent you the links and the the message from Google.
            As one who cannot accept that he got exposed…… what are you afraid of that the readers will expose what a psycho you are,
            Get lost Liar.

          47. That’s wonderful but how does that make me a liar, coward?

          48. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3fa5f5a6b609b71a7540e88a4a91bc4055f421c6af39a78b29888cfae8ad4f8.jpg

            There is a person behind the comments ……. so in your case, you are exposed as lunatic conspiracy hater person, with facts based on your Alien psychotic agenda, which are not to be confronted, only as psychotic nonsense, therefor the readers of this blog should know, who is OMEGA, the person behind those psycho comments.
            I have all your comments in cashed and on print screen , so you can go ahead an delete them, as you are a coward, who is afraid to expose his psycho comments in other sites.

          49. it’s been used already by you ten times.
            That’s all you got …….

          50. Niemals Avatar

            He is a scum Jew Hater Holocaust denier!
            Omega claims that the Jooz were not gassed, they died of diseases and hunger….

            However he presents it that he is against Zionist (bankers….), not against Jews.

          51. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/47b2c5ee7ea806c394cefc83d33788f39b6afd88562817924dcc11e6e83c50fb.jpg

            http://russia-insider.com/en/new-israeli-theory-putin-forgot-tell-assad-its-anti-semitic-fire-idf-jets-bombing-syria/ri19251

            Omega writes, see in the print screen “I don’t negate it (since I believe we’re not alone in the Universe)”

            Now do you reject you wrote “we’re not alone in the Universe” psycho ?????

          52. That’s what the whole ‘alien stories’ was/is about? Damn. You should have just asked. Yes, I do not believe the human species is the only living species in the Universe.

          53. Having another breakdown Jacko? I told you many times before my opinion on the Holocaust: that it was a post-war propaganda lie. I never said otherwise.

          54. Having another breakdown Jacko? I told you many times before my opinion on the Holocaust: that it was a post-war propaganda fabrication/lie. I never said otherwise.

            p.s. Where you the person I was addressing that comment to? He ended up being banned. For some reason, he had just signed up and he attacked me (and me only) on Russia Insider.

          55. This is for the readers to know and acknowledge that
            OMEGA = A HOLOCAUST DENIER.

            I bet scums like you are proud

          56. Niemals Avatar

            If you think that the readers don’t know this Arschloch ideology, than you’re naive.

            He is so brainwashed, that he can’t see the difference between reality and a his own picture of the distorted truth.
            He feeds on the conspiracies.

          57. Keep it up Jacko, I can almost hear the violin …

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2DrAzk8yyk

          58. I don’t comment in a Jew Hate sewer like Russia insider.
            It was created for Jew Haters scum like you.

          59. Russia Insider is as much ‘jew hater’ as you are a Jew yourself.

          60. Niemals Avatar

            What do you expect from a Holocaust denier?

            If you could present a document that is a forensic evidence, Omega will claim immediately that it is a forgery.

            The problem with you Jack is that you have been trapped in Omegas cobweb.

            Drop him into the basket, then he will be really pissed off.

          61. I just had fun to expose this scum and watch him wriggles around himself with his denial and lies.

          62. What did you ‘expose’ and what did I deny and/or lie about exactly?

            You threw another manic-depressive tantrum, pointed at irrelevant matters that I discussed a year ago (on another website) to divert/dilute from the topic in hand here (in order cover up for your ignorance) and then concluded that I was a liar.

          63. Just that you are a Conspiracy Psycho, basing all of his Agenda on insane stories that come out of your space creature living among us belief, A Holocaust denier and a Liar.

            This is for All the readers to explore what a Pathetic scum you are.

          64. The thing with lying is that, in order to move forward, the lies need to get bigger. You demonstrate that here. Where do you read me write that “space creatures live among us” and what have I lied about?

            After I called out Zionism for being identical to Nazism (after all, history shows so), you had an emotional outburst and threw a straw man argument that you tried to exploit. When that failed, you changed course and resorted to character assassination (based on distortions and lies). You are pathetic in ways that you probably don’t realize.

          65. again more mental masturbation

          66. Jackie, is that thou?

          67. If you could present a document that is a forensic evidence, Omega will claim immediately that it is a forgery.

            I’d love to see such forensic evidence. To date, nobody has provided anything. There is also zero war document attesting of the Jewish death toll in WW2. Very odd.

          68. LEBANON Nazi treatment of the Palestinians for the last 70 years:
            *The Palestinians do not have Lebanese citizenship
            * No identity cards,
            * Are legally barred from owning property
            * Legally barred form entering a list of desirable occupations.
            * Are not granted much access to the social services .

            This is Nazi Lebanon.

          69. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            This is not Nazi Lebanon, that was purely orchestrated and supervised by Sharon. He was shitty that he lost Sinnai to Sadat and lost Lebanon because Bashir did not follow his instructions. Sharon is the only evil behind Sabra & Shatila. Israel alone will pay for that!

          70. TYPICAL – Pure Holy Lebanon
            Who did the Massacre, who did the killing.
            Don’t play Games, Only the Christians Lebanese savages were able to do such a Massacre, so spare your time with your nonsense and excuses.
            The CHRISTIAN LEBANESE were the killers.

            Who for the last 70 years:
            *The Palestinians do not have Lebanese citizenship
            * No identity cards,
            * Are legally barred from owning property
            * Legally barred form entering a list of desirable occupations.
            * Are not granted much access to the social services .

            This is Holy Lebanon.

          71. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Definitely not pure and we are far from holy! I never said the christians did not do the killings, but it wasn’t the Christians alone. It was definitely barbaric and should not be repeated. However, they should go back to their own country. Lebanon has enough problems on its own.

          72. “but it wasn’t the Christians alone.”
            It was ONLY Christians that did the Massacre, they did the killing and no one else.
            Palestinians are in Lebanon to stay, they know it, Lebanon Knows it.
            But as Lebanon can’t face facts, it always blows up in their face time after time.

          73. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            You have no clue what nazism symbolizes.

            Be careful using the term “Nazi” that stands for Nationalsozialismus and is a radically anti-Semitic, racist, anti-Communist and anti-democratic ideology.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3db7a1dea5ffb3eaa1d4680bdba68ef978c861bf73cbb7e3db2cbdb1fb9533c5.jpg
            An “information plaque” from the exhibition Miracles of Life in Berlin in 1935.

          74. “He was shitty that he lost Sinnai (sic) to Sadat (!?) and lost Lebanon because Bashir did not follow his instructions (?!)”

            Lebanese morons sure have a wild imagination and a non-existent sense of reponsibility for their actions. Well, that’s kinda natural: for all the “Phoenician” bullshit, they are Arabs, after all. 🙂

          75. Leborigine Avatar
            Leborigine

            Jealous, are we?? Well guess what, I totally agree with you!

          76. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Of course it suits you to say that. I will tell you why:
            Not only you stole a land and its culture you also plagiarized your religious books from Babylonian mythology. On top of it your so called” Hebrew letter is plagiarized from the Phoenician. Take a close look and see that the Hebrew letters are named after Phoenician items.
            Nothing original came from you. Even the concept of the One God came from zoroastrian and Egyptian. You are used to stealing, usurping and plagiarizing and in modernity to usury.

          77. Omega Avatar

            you also plagiarized your religious books from Babylonian mythology.

            Babylonian and Canaanite …

            When Canaan died, he left a will to his children, a way of life to follow (known as the Will of Canaan). It read as follow:

            “Love one another (that is, of this tribe only), love robbery, love lewdness, hate your masters, and do not speak the truth.”

            Where else do you find such identical ‘wisdom’ and the only place in all of the world’s theological literature? The Babylonian Talmud:

            Canaan upon his death-bed left to his children the following rules of life: (1) “Let there be mutual love between yourselves.” (2) “Love robbery and unchastity.” (3) “Hate your masters, and do not speak the truth” (Pes. 113b).

          78. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            Stop wasting your time with the “language experts” – Klugscheißer.

          79. Yes, but it is not only replies for OmegaHell and OmegaHell like, i hope may be interesting for someone and my time costs nothing) I understand i’m infringing wisdom do not argue with stupid and do not argue at all. I’m sorry my best “smart” comments detected as spam (!)

          80. What about it? It is suggested that the Phoenician alphabet is reformed from Old Canaanite (Proto-Sinaitic) but you seem to forget that the Canaanites and Phoenicians were the same people.

            The Hebrews who came from Mesopotamia to Canaan pretty much copied everything (the stories, the alphabet, the worship of deities, etc). Most importantly, no neighbouring culture ever mentions trading or diplomacy with any Hebrew kingdom or empire of any kind – although they all mention each other. There is no history to confirm anything about the Hebrews outside the Bible.

          81. Is it another reasons to hate Israel for you, idiot? Please change your ugly motivation, start discover something good so your words will be with good sense, meaning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan_(son_of_Ham) According to archaeologist Jonathan N. Tubb, “Ammonites, Moabites, Israelites and Phoenicians undoubtedly achieved their own cultural identities, and yet ethnically they were all Canaanites” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan lol Canaanites “stole”
            Ghassulian culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghassulian

          82. I see. The Hebrews who came from Mesopotamia (Israelites) are now Canaanites?

            Quit being a lazy bum and educate yourself in reading worthy books instead of copy-pasting Wikipedia links you have neither read or understood. Israel Finkelstein’s monumental The Bible Unearthed is a great start. He shows, based on forensic archeology, how the Exodus never happened, how the all so great Northern and Southern Israelite Kingdoms were actually insignificant and little with small to no armies, how the power, wealth and stories of Saul, David and Solomon were stolen from the Omrides, etc.

            There is no history to confirm the Hebrews’ Empires in Canaan outside the bible. No neighboring culture ever mentions trading or diplomacy with any Hebrew kingdom or empire of any kind – although they all mention each other. Don’t you find that strange?

          83. Stop hate concentrating on Israel, idiot, your words are fake, your out of contexts “facts” are fake, change your ugly motivation, OmegaHell

          84. Is it a coincidence that facts are always out of context with you?

            I could care less about Israel (and it would be at peace with every one in the region) had they not stolen 60% of the 1948 Partition given to the Palestinians, did not steal the Golan Heights and occupy East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza ever since 1968, tried to steal the south of Lebanon in 1982, keep stealing Palestinian lands.

            Man up and be accountable.

          85. Suck dick of Nasrallah, corrupted idiot. So called in 1964 in Soviet KGB “Falsetinians” are usual politically corrected Orabians and your mental masturbation. Orabians started war from the start in 1948 and you idiot still easy blame jews, OmegaHell. Are half of Africa, almost all ME including Lebanon, Judea, Samaria Orabian land, idiot??? It is also Ghassulian land, idiot

          86. The Palestinians genetic markers tell a different story in regards to your (Zionist) KGB myth.

            Arabs didn’t start the war. Israel lied they were attacked after they were caught outside their lines killing, raping, destroying and attaching towns and villages. It wasn’t any different in 1967 and 1982 – they attacked and then lied to be the victims.

            Your latter part of your comment is non sequitur. Try harder.

          87. You are fake and hateful idiot, OmegaHell. So called Falsetinians (chosen selected Orabians) invented in 1964, stop your stupid propaganda. Try harder

          88. use it yourself, idiot OmegaHell

          89. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            And according to the Arab tradition the Arabs belong to the Arab peninsula but that too does not comply with reality. Among the ten of thousands of pre-islamic inscriptions found in “Arabia” only a handful are in Arabic. So my question is how come that the Arabs went from being almost non-existing in “their own homeland” to become the owner of not only the peninsula but also the entire MENA region? When are Arabs willing to give back what they stole? When are Arabs willing to move out of MENA bcos they obviously don’t belong here.

          90. It is ugly to see here, on yalibnan, defenders of Orabian occupants, also pro”falsetinians”

          91. So my question is how come that the Arabs went from being almost non-existing in “their own homeland” to become the owner of not only the peninsula but also the entire MENA region?

            Ever heard of Islam?

            When are Arabs willing to give back what they stole? When are Arabs willing to move out of MENA bcos they obviously don’t belong here.

            Nice try but your questions are non-sequitur. Besides, I am not Arab to answer and I find your concern (read: your support for Israel), as an alleged Iranian, quite intriguing.

          92. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Yes I’m an ‘alleged’ Iranian as if Iranians are somehow obligated to side with Arabs. When did the Arabs ever side with Iran since you expect us to side with you?

          93. Where do you read me write, or insinuate, that Iranians should/must side with Arabs? I jus don’t see you criticize your alleged, sworn enemy much (Israel).

          94. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            When Iran has friends like the Arabs, there is no need for us to have a sworn enemy like Israel.

          95. I can’t disagree there but I’ll reiterate: who’s really running Iran today? The whole US-Israel hatred started with the (Anglo-American puppet) Ayatollah Khomeini.

          96. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Forget about the Ayatolllah and forget about Israel and forget about the Arab leaders for a moment.
            Ordinary Arabs do not like ordinary Iranians and vice versa. Read the comments of posters such danny etc. etc

          97. We can forget but it’s crucial to know.

            As for ordinary people, bigots will be bigots.

          98. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            So are you willing to give Mesopotamia to the Hebrews in exchange for Israel or does that still belong to the Arab bedouins?

          99. Lots of rambling based on ignorance. Mesopotamia did not belong to the Hebrew, they only came from there. Arabia and the Arabs are named after the city of Aram – modern Damascus. They spoke Aramaic like the Hebrews. Like Jesus did. These people arrived at the same time as the Hebrews and WENT to Arabia (Aramia) and founded it not came from there. And please remember Israelites were not Jews. Only the Judans are Jews.

          100. What is your selfidentification, Omegahell?

          101. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Aramaeans are definitely not Arabs.

          102. Again, get your facts straight on who’s Arab and who’s not: http://phoenicia.org/today.html Your definition is based on modern standards only.

          103. also Berbers are not Orabians etc.

          104. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            All religions are plagiarized and made fit to local cultures. Even Babylonian mythology is based on older religions.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBFyrKYI6TU

          105. When you write all religions, do you mean all or is it all minus Pharisaism (known today as Judaism)?

          106. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I meant what I said. Don’t twist it!

          107. Not twisting, just checking.

          108. Omega Avatar

            for all the “Phoenician” bullshit, they are Arabs, after all.

            Spoken like the thick bigot you are. I recommend you read Dr. Frank Salameh’s Language, Memory and Identity in the Middle East, the Case of Lebanon to see how what you wrote is nothing but a myth.

            http://phoenicia.org/Language_Identity_Middle_East.html

          109. “Spoken like the thick bigot you are”

            This is not even the pot calling the kettle black. It’s more like a puddle of puke telling a rose: “You stink!”. 🙂

            Franck (not Frank) Salameh is a good guy (just as Abu Arz is – on a different level). This does not mean, unfortunately, that their theories are not largely wishful thinking.

            Salameh has a book in progress: “Arab Nationalism in the Middle East: A Hundred Years of Folly”. Hope to read it when it gets out.

          110. Omega Avatar

            You calmed ‘bullshit’ but provided no argument. You now call ‘wishful thinking’ and again, fail to provide any substance. I don’t know if you read Salameh’s book and didn’t get it or didn’t read it and make stuff up but Phoenicians are Arabs are distinct groups of people. You can read a good summary on this page: http://phoenicia.org/today.html

            Don’t forget the genetic markers variable: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/science/31genes.html

            I didn’t know about his upcoming book but I checked and he proposed it back in 2012. Phoenician procrastination; or it is Arabic?

          111. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Of course we won’t give them identity cards… That is because they have one, a Palestinian card from an usurped land.

          112. Hannibal – Nazi Lebanon treated the “Palestinian brothers” like shit for 70 year.
            Those Palestinians are there to stay forever, they are not going anywhere.
            The only issue is that at the end, they will take over Lebanon as it was before, as Lebanon is been taken for free every now and then by another regime.

          113. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Nazi and zion rhyme beautifully.

          114. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            NOOOOO I am a full one vs. Damn Sam should have never been born. You’d imagine a world without Arabs and Jews? Paradise. 😛 LOL

          115. Are you Aramean?

          116. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Nope… Phoenician, a society born before judaism.

          117. ???????????????? (Cnaan)
            why don’t you want to learn Phoenician

          118. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            You are blond and blue eyed remember? You cannot be a Kanaanite. At least use the native term if you want people to believe you.

          119. Hi Ilami-Gilaki, can You see Phoenician?
            ????????????????

          120. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            No do you?

          121. Omega Avatar

            The blonde/blue eyed silliness originated in England. It remains that: silliness.

            Phoenicians and Canaanites are one and the same people. Named differently (Canaanite or Phoenicians – even Punic/ Carthaginians) by different people.

            Your people, the Ishtar-worshipping Mesopotamian Hebrews, came to Canaan, stole everything (language, stories, etc) and then wrote fallacious books where they glorified themselves (in order to make up for their insignificance among others and in history). Archeology doesn’t lie.

          122. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            LOL

          123. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I already told you that I’m an Iranian.

          124. Yes, and I am half Japanese and half Congolese.

          125. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Believe it or leave it, I’m an Iranian and considering what the Arabs have done to us most of us side with Israel. At least the Israelis never attacked Iran.

          126. Israel has been seeking to have the US turned Iran to Iraq/Libya and most of you side with Israel? Most of you don’t side with Israel, only the crypto ones (like you) do.

            Israelis never attacked Iran? Forgot Flight 655? Of course you did. You are, like I said, only someone who pretends to be Iranian.

          127. Your home is Hell, OmegaHell

          128. It’s warm and cozy here. You should join, I’ll have a cold beer ready.

          129. This is “Falsetinian” topic, sorry

          130. Not really.

          131. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            “Israel has been seeking to have the US turned Iran to Iraq/Libya and most of you side with Israel?”

            Did any Arab country help to prevent this from happening to Iran? Nope not a single one. In fact the Arabs encouraged the Muricans: You remember the line: Cut the snake?

            “Israel has been seeking to have the US turned Iran to Iraq/Libya and most of you side with Israel?”

            Ok, maybe not most of us.
            But most Arabs side with Israel against Iran.

            “Israelis never attacked Iran? Forgot Flight 655? Of course you did. You are, like I said, only someone who pretends to be Iranian.”

            Saddam with the help of all Arab countries including the Palestianians killed 1M Iranians in the 80s.

          132. Did any Arab country help to prevent this from happening to Iran? Nope not a single one. In fact the Arabs encouraged the Muricans: You remember the line: Cut the snake?

            True.

            Ok, maybe not most of us. But most Arabs side with Israel against Iran.

            Also true. I find it interesting how the Salafi/Wahhabi are siding with the Americans and Israelis against Iran when their alleged sworn enemies are the US and Israel. Now, you’re telling me that many in Iran side with Israel. It’s truly the world upside down. At this rate, Britain’s vassal state in the ME, Israel, might reach super power status.

            Saddam with the help of all Arab countries including the Palestianians killed 1M Iranians in the 80s.

            True. Israel also sold weapons to Iran when they were at war with Iraq and as @wargame1 stated, Israel also sold military parts to Iran (despite the imposed sanctions).

            I never understood why Iran used/use the Palestinians cause as an alibi against Israel. The Ayatollah Khomeini (with a Kashmiri mother and a father with a dubious past linked to British intelligence) was definitely not who he portrayed to be. He seemed more like controlled opposition – he collaborated with the US to hold on to the hostages until Reagan was elected and Iran’s alleged hatred of the US and Israel started with him. All of which only make Israel stronger. Begs the question: who’s really running Iran today?

          133. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I’m sick and tired of the hostility between Iran and the west. It so pointless.

          134. Hostility is profitable. Sad but true.

          135. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            How so?

          136. I’ll rephrase: peace is not profitable.

          137. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I see.

          138. I hope you also see that Iran’s image today (as the bad guy) is the results of Israel’s decades-long demonization campaign.

          139. You are fake, Iranian people are not enemy of Israel like Iranian government started to see Israel as enemy (demonization campaign) from 1979

          140. Yes, I am sure most Iranians love Israel when they change “Death to Israel”.

            Either way, every time I refer to a country, I imply its government, not its people.

          141. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Don’t blame Israel for The negative views harboured by Arabs toward anyone and particularily iranians. This hatred is deeply rooted in Arab culture. Even back when Iran was a sunni country, arabs used derogatory terms such as ajam and movla.

          142. Inter-ethnic animosity is one thing. A decades-long global scale demonization campaign another. Don’t you think?

          143. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Listen, all I’m saying is that nothing good comes outta the Sunnis and they don’t deserve our support. When was the last time that a sunni came out to support any non-sunni community in MENA? They even want to vaporize other sunnis (Qatar vs Saudi).
            Taking into account the fact that so far you have not talked sh!t about any religious or ethnic community in MENA, I guess you are either a Shia or Christian and you know what Lebanon would be just fine w/o the sunnis. For one thing all Lebanese superstars, many of whom are also known in Iran, are either shias (haifa, ragheb) or christians (nancy, elisa). The sunnis even failed to produce a superstar!

          144. I don’t know if you you read what I post but I never said otherwise about the Sunnis (Salafi/Wahhabi). And yes, Lebanon will definitely do better without them.

            I don’t know why you entitle yourself to take such into account when you ‘joined’ about a month ago. There again, I also asked you what was/were you previous/other username(s).

            I was born and raised Christian Maronite but I don’t adhere to religious fallacies or any kind. I believe in the advancement of science, the appreciation of art, law and order.

          145. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            “I don’t know if you you read what I post but I never said otherwise about the Sunnis (Salafi/Wahhabi). And yes, Lebanon will definitely do better without them.”

            Then stop ur support for the Palestinians unless they are Chrisitans. Did you know that George Habash was among the first ones to resist the Jews once the Moslems had sold Palestine to Jews? As if these lands belong to the Moslems. They mess it up and the minorities have to clean up their mess. Instead of thanking us, they hate us.

            “I don’t know why you entitle yourself to take such into account when you ‘joined’ about a month ago. There again, I also asked you what was/were you previous/other username(s).”

            Sorry if my conclusion offends you but my conclusion is true.As for my old username (in singular) was iraniangel. Hind knows me, hinnibal knows me and 5th (RIP) knew me when he was alive.

            “I was born and raised Christian Maronite but I don’t adhere to religious fallacies or any kind. I believe in the advancement of science, the appreciation of art, law and order.”

            Religions have a lot of truth in them actually. Science says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, whereas religions claim that god was never born and is eternal. I bet they are speaking about the same thing w/o realizing it. Besides the benefits of yoga, meditation, and fasting are scientifically well-documented. Even the theory of evolution is based on the vedic narrative on the incarnations of Lord Vishnu. They way I see it is that science is only catching up on religion.
            However, Islam is a different story. A religion born among bedouins that had no history, no civilization, and no culture and then they think they are much better than everyone else when it is exactly the other way around.

          146. Then stop ur support for the Palestinians unless they are Christians. Did you know that George Habash was among the first ones to resist the Jews once the Moslems had sold Palestine to Jews? As if these lands belong to the Moslems. They mess it up and the minorities have to clean up their mess. Instead of thanking us, they hate us.

            Morality is not selective and is unconditional. My opinion/stance for the Palestinian cause is irrelevant of religion and it would have been the very same if the non-Jewish Palestinians did to the Zionists what the Zionists did to the non-Jewish Palestinians. You can sugar coat it as thick as you want, truth of the matter is that the Zionist State of Israel came to fruition in stealing and ethnically cleansing the lands of its inhabitants. Most importantly, Jews, Christians and Muslims co-lived in Palestine prior to the arrival of Zionists. The 1929 Hebron incident is often used as a counter-argument but Jewish accounts of that time depict a different story: http://bit.ly/2rE4EdJ

            You’re making it sound like the whole Palestine was sold to Jews by Muslims. You need to stop lying or educate yourself as that is an aberrant conjecture. Privately owned lands were indeed sold by non-Jews (Muslim and Christian) to Jews but they represented a small percentage of the whole land. By 1945, most of the lands (by 1945) were owned by non-Jews (Muslims at a majority and Christians) – see map: http://bit.ly/2l1cYku

            In 1948, the UN partitioned the land but the Zionists were not happy – they wanted more (all of the land). In the last few months of the British Mandate, they went on a violent rampage against the unarmed Palestinian population (Christian and Muslim); attacking/seizing Palestinians towns and villages (http://bit.ly/2sykIKL), killing, raping and displacing upwards of eight hundred of them. To quote Limor Livnat ((Rightist) Former Israeli Education Minister):

            If Israeli children learned about the mass expulsion of Palestinians, they were likely to turn against the State.

            Sorry if my conclusion offends you but my conclusion is true.As for my old username (in singular), it was iraniangel. Hind knows me, hannibal knows me and 5th (RIP) knew me when he was alive.

            Not sure why would your conclusion (that I am either Shia or Christian) offend me. It’s your thought process (arriving at that conclusion based on your assumption that I didn’t/don’t talk about any religious or ethnic community in MENA) that I found odd. I did and still do talk about other religious/ethnic communities in the MENA.

            I don’t know who/what you are but I am finding it hard to believe that you are Iranian (and should you be (the chances are slim to none), you must be a Trojan Horse type Zionist Iranian). Your blind support and defensive stance towards the Zionist State (who has been demonizing Iran for the past twenty plus years, who has been trying to have the US invade/attack it, who killed Iranian nuclear scientists, etc) and your general comments against Muslims/Islam are indicative of so. I also hear that you have nothing in common with iranianangel.

            Religions have a lot of truth in them actually. Science says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, whereas religions claim that god was never born and is eternal. I bet they are speaking about the same thing w/o realizing it. Besides the benefits of yoga, meditation, and fasting are scientifically well-documented. Even the theory of evolution is based on the vedic narrative on the incarnations of Lord Vishnu. The way I see it is that science is only catching up on religion. However, Islam is a different story. A religion born among bedouins with no history, no civilization, and no culture and then they think they are much better than everyone else when it is exactly the other way around.

            The ancient religions/philosophies (you talk about) are one thing, the three Abrahamic religions (I talked about), another. There is wisdom in religion and it does serves as moral guide but all three (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are retelling older stories. Islam is pretty much a copy-paste of Judaism. Pharisaism (concocted by the Pharisees, an Ishtar-worshipping priesthood of Persian origin), known today as Judaism, and its Scriptures are essentially Vedantic commentaries. They are retelling the tales in the Rig Vedas although the characters they use to illustrate their versions are localized. The essential elements of the Torah/Bible being Genesis and the Deluge are already foretold in the Vedas. These morph over many generations to become the Mahabarata and the Baghvad Gita. The Torah added some local tribal accounts to the mix and also relies heavily on the Hammurabi Codes. The Torah also forms the first give books of the Christian Bible.

          147. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            Iran has managed to piss off just about everybody in the region and their desire for more control is evident by their actions, albeit not always successful.

          148. Because Britain’s vassal state in the ME, Israel, had not pissed off anyone (with their attacks, invasions and never-ending land thefts since 1948) and their desire for more control is not evident? What about Saudi Arabia? Let’s get real: both sides want control of the region.

          149. fairytale

          150. Yes, I know. Anything that exposes Israel’s crimes is fairytale to you. Are you in a perpetual state of vegetation?

          151. пнх

          152. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            Defending oneself is quite legitimate and Israel has done that quite well. So well in fact that the Arabs are still licking the wounds.

            Saudi Arabia has proven that they are smarter and a bit more politically savvy than Iran. Like the PaliArabs, Iran is just inept.

          153. Arabs never attacked Israel; not once. But yes, it must be a coincidence that Israel “defending itself” always ended up in the looting or more lands. (laughing) Read again:

            Israeli Minister of Housing Mordechai Bentov has also acknowledged that “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail, and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”

          154. Is North Africa Orab territory, idiot?

          155. Is non sequitur the only way you argue?

          156. I understand i’m stupid infringing wisdom arguing with corrupted idiot like you. Again, is also Lebanon Orab territory, idiot?

          157. Lebanon is Phoenician, not “Orab”: http://phoenicia.org/index.shtml

          158. I’m glad you are discovering also something good like phoenicia.org So why Lebanese language using Imperial Latin or Orabian script? ?????????????

          159. The answer to you question is: Canaan lived a series of different reign. Some of the latest being the Romans and Islam.

            Can you now answer my question: Why did the Hebrew speak Aramaic?

          160. It was also Imperial Aramaic, the same 22 alphabet letters like in Phoenician, Hebrew ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? We can write it now

          161. That is not what I asked you.

          162. Aramaic was Imperial for Hebrews. Why we writing here in English?

          163. (laughing)

            You repeated the same answer.

            An alphabet being Imperial has nothing to do with the spoken language. My question was/is: why did the Hebrew speak Aramaic? Why not Hebrew?

          164. You confirm what I said: you didn’t/don’t know and resort at sending me a page to read.

          165. I will better write you in Imperial Aramaic
            ???????? ???????????????? ???????????????? But you are not hacker to read

          166. Write in whatever alphabet you want. You’re only diverting some more.

          167. i’m (stupid) diverting you from your hate

          168. Since you can’t stop whining and talk an awful lot about dicks, this should suit you perfectly …

            https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31%2BnHNMQWnL.jpg

          169. You can suck your image yourself, dirty hateful idiot

          170. Allow me to quote you: (10 hours ago): Suck dick of Nasrallah, corrupted idiot.

            I’ll skip the ad nauseam reference to masturbation.

            And I am the dirty idiot. Right.

          171. I will love you when you will stop to be dirty hateful idiot, happily you are not dirty hateful idiot at 100%, we may be can see progress. Mental masturbation is lesser evil than hate, we are all can masturbating mentally

          172. I’m sorry to be a disappointment to you but please understand I have no ambitions to earn your love.

          173. because i’m jew?

          174. Because you’re a bigot.

          175. yes, i’m a bit crazy, may be bigot. my believe is information, i think i guessed it

          176. If you meant to write “u guessed it” instead of “i guessed it” then no, I did not. If information formed your core belief, you would be impartial, apply critical thinking and then make judgment – instead of responding “out of context” and/or “mental masturbation” and/or “fairytale” and/or etc automatically.

          177. Please feel free correct me where i’m wrong, but i will not tolerate where information is corrupted

          178. I have countless of times. You don’t tolerate anything against Israel period. Don’t sugar coat it now.

          179. Israel is home, Noah Arc, refugee camp for jews (not only), not so bad country as you think

          180. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            I’m sorry, African and Asian countries attacked Israel. BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

          181. Tell me what land granted to Israel by the UNSCOP was attacked by the Arabs in 1948.

            Tell me what Arab country attacked Israel in 1967.

            Tell me what Arab country attacked Israel in 1982-2000.

            Tell me what Arab country attacked Israel in 2006.

            Either answer or have another beer.

          182. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            Israel.

          183. Have another beer Roodie.

          184. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            Have 2 fingers or three of your finest malt.

          185. I normally hard alcohol but I might as well as I don’t see an answer coming from you.

          186. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I don’t mind Iran controlling the region bcos as history has shown no one is more qualified to be the regional superpower other than Iran. I suggest every israeli or arab to move away if they disagree. .

          187. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            History has not shown that, Iran doesn’t have qualifications and far too many are opposed. All the Israelis and Arabs will not move away and will continue to put Iran in Iran.

          188. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I didn’t tell you to reply but to move away.

          189. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            Since I’m neither Arab or Israeli your threat doesn’t apply.

          190. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            All the more reason why you must zip it.

          191. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            LOL, make me.

          192. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You can barely control Iran never mind the entire region. How is ISIS doing in Iran? Enjoyed the heart of Tehran attack much? On their way out I heard they yelled khoda hafez.

          193. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Lol Iran is the only place in the region where parents can send their children to school and know for a fact that they will return home in the afternoon not getting killed by American/Israeli bombs or ISIS. In which Arab bedouin confederation including Lebanon is that possible?

          194. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            soon enough they will nuke your collective as$. 😉

          195. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Does that make you a Japolese? lol

          196. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Let me teach you some history:
            Around the Late Bronze Age (~1200 BC) the European maritime society for reasons still unknown (famine? etc.) abandoned their home and headed south with their families in tow. They came by sea and by land and met to throw devastation in any land that was not welcoming. The various Sea Peoples have been proposed to have originated either from western Asia Minor, the Aegean or from Southern Europe. They invaded Anatolia, Syria, Canaan, Phoenicia, Cyprus, and Egypt. They destroyed northern Syria but did not destroy the Phoenician towns where many settled with their families because the Phoenicians welcomed them as they previously were trading with them and had trading colonies established in their land.
            It is not a secret why all of sudden the Phoenicians gained serious knowledge about maritime seafaring where since they together with the new alliance of Phoenician-Sea people conquered the known world and founded Carthage (Phoenician: Qart-ḥadašt “New City”) and established many colonies across the Mediterranean and reached Spain, England and even the Americas. So if you are asking where did the blue eyes come from in this part of the world then here you have it.
            As to people believing me, despite it not being my purpose you may call 1-800-I DONT CARE. ;P

          197. Why are you not supporting Phoenician? What kind of teacher are you? ???????? ???????????????? ????????????????

          198. Niemals Avatar

            You teach English and now you teach some history…, any other hidden talents?

          199. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Plenty more 😉
            My wife speaks German and as much as she tries to teach me I am having hard time learning it despite the fact that I know Arabic, French and English pretty fluently. I guess it is an age thingy with languages or German is tough. I am picking up a little of ASL (American Sign Language) which my son is learning in high school.

          200. Niemals Avatar

            You “know Arabic, French and English pretty fluently”, but you can’t understand a simple question – “any other hidden talents?”…
            “My wife speaks German,” big deal…

          201. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Weird response… Here I am trying to be friendly and whaaam! you hit by attacking me.
            I’m done.
            thank you.
            Moving forward please do not address me as I won’t be addressing you no matter what. Fair?

          202. Niemals Avatar

            “Here I am trying to be friendly “…… what a joke.

          203. Niemals Avatar

            No surprise that you are supporting the Neonazis, (libanesisk…?) Abschaum.

          204. Niemals Avatar

            “Ich habe bisher nie etwas gegen Juden gehabt, aber das hat sich jetzt geändert. Danke.”, must be
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81f55a54465669f04361ef36405ba0e536ba4a4b14b73c49807587f66a784ed6.jpg
            a friend of yours from “The Fatherland”.

          205. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Real jews are my brothers and sisters. Fake jew Khazar zionists are the cancer of humanity. The friend of mine is still derailed as you are.

          206. Niemals Avatar

            No $hit Hannibal, you can’t see any difference between a Jew and a Zionist Jew.

            The cancer of humanity is you and your Muslim brothers and sisters – you can’t have Jewish brothers and sisters.

          207. ???????????????? ???????????????????? ????????????????????????

          208. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            In short you are not Kanaanite.

          209. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            a blessing?

          210. Please, Hannibal, start support Phoenician alphabet at least

          211. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Do you consider it a blessing to be a descendant of the vandals, vikings, and visigoths?

          212. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            as long as they vandalize the Persians? Definitely…
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Prc1UfuokY

          213. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Am I still Lebanese?

          214. Omega Avatar

            In the words of Suleiman, aka Shlomo: Oy Vey Izmir!

            I called 1-800-I-DONT-CARE but couldn’t reach anyone – not even a voicemail. Talk about a (shitty) customer service (!). Where do I send my complaint? 🙂

            Joke aside, is that what they teach you guys in the West? Another story of the White Man did it all before All?

            In no way were the Europeans the first to build ships and sail the seas. Ships were invented in the Eastern Mediterranean, the cradle of civilizations. The Europeans were still savages way after the birth of Christ. Even the Romans themselves considered Northern Europeans and the British to be savages. If you remember, Hadrian built a wall to keep the savages of Scotland out of the Roman Empire which existed long after the civilizations of the East – Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, the Hittites and the Canaanite/Phoenician world were in their high noon. The Phoenicians reached present-day Great Britain, Scotland, Ireland, etc – not the other way around.

            http://phoenicia.org/britmines.html

            http://phoenicia.org/scotland.html

            http://phoenicia.org/Phoenician_Celtic_connections.html

            The light skin/blue eyes is believed to have come with the Crusaders.

          215. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            You are off by 2000 years my friend. To say that you threw away, and aside from the sea people which is etched in stone in Egypt hieroglyphs, the greeks (Europeans, 323 BC-31 BC), the romans (Europeans, 27BC–480AD), and Byzantium (Europeans, 395AD – 1453AD). The first crusade was called in 1095AD. To simply claim that erases about 2000 years of Middle Eastern history. That is not to say that the Phoenicians haven’t roamed the mediterranean and beyond. That is from a historical perspective. From a DNA studies perspective, Lebanon has J1(Arabia), J2(Levantine), and R1b(European) spread equally in thirds.
            R1b originated in the Middle East during the ice age. R1b1a (P297) originated around the Caucasus, eastern Anatolia and northern Mesopotamia, from where they invaded Europe and Central Asia. R1b1b (M335), to which my ancestors belong (Y Chromosome) has been found in abundance in Anatolia from which the marada were sent to annoy Mou3awiya by the Byzantines.
            Looking at all this with a narrow perspective is simple, or is it simpleton? 😉
            As to the Crusaders, they did leave a print, and it is seen in some family names. If you were to dissect the names you will find all types of origins, Franjieh (France, probably crusaders), Antipa (Roman), Chamoun (Blue eyes, Aramaic), Sahyoun (Aramaic), Chihab (Turkey), Jumblat (Kurds), Fellas (Greek), and as recent as first world war (Armenians). To sum up that Lebanon’s blue eyed population are crusaders is false.

          216. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Jumblat is a communist.

          217. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            A rich one 😉

          218. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            lol

          219. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I just google him and it turns out that he is also an Eslamist.

          220. Omega Avatar

            When I wrote “is believed to have come”, I meant to the region and not just Lebanon. I also did not have the Greeks, Romans and Byzantines as “Europeans” in mind when I refered to “light skinned/bleu eyes” – though I know they are portrayed as such in movies today (often with a British English accent). I meant the present-day Brits, Scottish (which I mentioned), Irish, French, etc.

            The main point of my comment (and what I was hoping to discuss further) was the seafaring. Europeans teaching the Eastern Mediteraneans is fallacy.

          221. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            So sad that it went from being the cradle of civilization to the cradle of shit. Reject Arabization and revert back to your roots. Of all people of the region only Iranians kept their pre-Eslamic identity. Even Saudis are not real Arabs.

          222. Omega Avatar

            Iran kept their pre-Islamic identity – yet 99.4% of it is Muslim. Right.

            I told/sent you this before: educate yourself on who’s Arab.

            Section “Who is Arab? The origin of the word “Arab” of http://phoenicia.org/today.html#ixzz4lyPLvjcj

          223. Omega Avatar

            The more you write, the more it becomes evident that you are not from the region.

            Iran kept their pre-Islamic identity – yet 99.4% of it is Muslim. Right.

            I told/sent you this before: educate yourself on who’s Arab.

            Section “Who is Arab? The origin of the word “Arab” of http://phoenicia.org/today.html#ixzz4lyPLvjcj

          224. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Actually you won’t be able to find anyone as passionate about the middle east as I am, hence I’m very sceptical when it comes to Arabs. If that makes you believe that I’m not from this region, then so be it.

          225. Omega Avatar

            Where do you read me question your “passion” (however that’s relevant) for the ME? It’s your assessment of the region, your displaced terminologies and your reluctance at admiring that Iran is today an islamic country that raises doubt.

          226. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            non-Arabian Peninsula is the correct terminology.
            Calling Iran an Eslamic country is definitely wrong when everyone knows that the state religion is Shi’ism.

          227. Omega Avatar

            You can thank the Brits for (Saudi) Arabia. About Iran, last time I checked, Shiism is a branch of Islam.

          228. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            And I checked what the Saudi motfi had to say about this. What a relief it was that he doesn’t consider Iranians to be Moslems.

          229. Yes, I know. You wrote that before and my reply remains the same: some Mofti in Saudi Arabia essentially calls the Iranians donkeys and you agree. Quit trolling and most importantly, stop pretending to be Iranian.

          230. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I would choose to be a donkey rather than the alternative any day. 3ala l 2aleel l 7mar 3ando charaf

          231. Whatever you are, one thing is certain: you’re not Iranian.

          232. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Metel ma baddak.

          233. Oh look, the “Iranian” who writes in (Akl-format) Lebanese, again.

          234. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            What, am I not allowed to learn and speak foreign languages?

          235. Don’t be dramatic now. Only Lebanese wrote what you wrote the way you did.

          236. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            That’s bcos I’m talented.

          237. High 5.

          238. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            1000%

          239. Omega Avatar

            (laughing)

            He did it again. -> Why do I sense you will go on another series or hysterical rants, manic-depressive tantrums and dumb repetitive comments?

          240. Senile, lets see you reject those point.
            Give some real out of space answers and explanations.

            No you can’t, so you comment some stupid words.

          241. Omega Avatar

            At least, be original. Don’t twist, turn and rewrite what I tell you.

          242. Lets see you reject those points.
            You can’t, so you write stupid words.

          243. Omega Avatar

            Ever heard of non sequitur?

          244. Omega Avatar

            Yet, you’re the one diverting/diluting constantly. You must be applying the latter part of Pes. 113b:

            do not speak the truth

          245. So why do you divert from the fact that,
            LEBANON Nazi treatment of the Palestinians for the last 70 years:

            *The Palestinians do not have Lebanese citizenship
            * No identity cards,
            * Are legally barred from owning property
            * Legally barred form entering a list of desirable occupations.
            * Are not granted much access to the social services .

            This is Nazi Lebanon.
            This is the truth…..

          246. How could I have diverted when you’re the one who brought it up?

          247. You are not just Senile, but a typical stupid liar.
            Every comment has a time stamp.
            Go over the comments and you will see that you were the first who brought it up.

          248. see at the mirror, OmegaHell

          249. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Lebanon HAS to turn Nazi to face off zioNazis…

          250. “zioNazis” is your mental masturbation on Israel

          251. Bozo, it dose not have to turn Nazi, as it is always been a Nazi puppet state.

          252. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            you mean does? Are you used to dozing off being high and all? and Jackoff-your-face last I checked it is the Israeli Attack Dogs who treat others as lesser which makes them zioNazi.

      2. Niemals Avatar
        Niemals

        According to the ‘beloved’ Omega the Jooz were not gassed, they died of diseases and hunger….

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Some did some died by other means… Regardless, death is one and caused by your ancestors Kraut… Why don’t you jump from a high rise for what you did to them jooz since your conscience hurts you. The pain will suddenly go away.

          1. The Germans have built a highly successful society for themselves (and for quite a few freeloaders like you) after the war. It’s the Arabs who have created nothing but misery, death and destruction all around them. So it’s they who should be jumping off that ledge, pal, not the Germans. Or at least taking a long, hard look in the mirror. 🙂

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I go there often and the majority still hate your guts 😉 Jewish jokes are common believe me, I was appalled.

          3. “I go there often and the majority still hate your guts ”

            It’s called projection, moron. To make sure you get it, dumbissimo: it’s you projecting your vision of the world on them. 🙂

            In light of the fact you know so little about your own country of origin, I bet your knowledge of Germany is close to zero.

          4. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            Those Hannibal have own country of origin?

            He didn’t meet any Israeli immigrants, if att all.
            Those Jews from Maghreb (Maghrebi Jews) aren’t European Jews…..

            Berlin has a lower cost of living and a growing community of Israelis.

          5. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            I believe you that Jewish jokes are common and appreciated – take for exempel the Americans using them daily.

            If you didn’t heard those jokes, then you are a real Schmok.

          6. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            “Ethnic” jokes are a dime a dozen, heard many in the 50’s and are continually recycled. Italians, Poles, Irish, Blacks, Puerto Rican(now Hispanic), Jews et al.

          7. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            Wear your words properly before emphasizing your stupidities about my ancestors – “Why don’t you jump from a high rise for what you did to them jooz”.
            You have no idea what my ancestors did under the NS-Regime, so don’t make such comments “what you did to them jooz”!

            The follower of the Nationalsozialismus did the crimes, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d62121ef62079c6592b39f3b92112d0def517e1d2bb394951e558afe8287b0d7.jpg
            I hope you heard about Oskar Schindler, a member of the Nazi Party who is credited with saving the lives of 1,200 Jews during the Holocaust by employing them in his enamelware and ammunitions factories.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f98c7a89e18f422396307fe19d730f460e5dcbef4c7fc717881cbde72addb9f.jpg
            Schindler’s grave in Jerusalem. The Hebrew inscription reads: “Righteous Among the Nations”; the German inscription reads: “The Unforgettable Lifesaver of 1200 Persecuted Jews”.

            Do you have any conscience at all?

          8. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            ONE Kraut did a good deed… wuptidiiii… so how about the millions who followed Hitler. If your kind were THAT kind why is it that 7 million Jews perished and only 1200 saved? Because you dumb fuc#s killed them. That’s why. Now go jump a high rise as a sacrifice to all what you’ve done in WW1 and WW2. Thank God you are now contained by the Jewish bankers so you do not unleash another hell on humanity.

          9. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            I’m not intending to list all the Germans that was fighting against the NS-diktatur and paid with their lives, you wouldn’t bother to read it anyway.

        2. Omega Avatar

          It’s not according to me. It’s according to the fact that forensic evidence for the so-called gas chambers does not exist, to date.

          Neither does a single war document attesting of the Jewish death toll. Odd, especially when we keep hearing how the Germans were meticulous at keeping records.

          1. I was in Sachsenhausen, hateful corrupted idiot “However the construction of a gas chamber and ovens by camp-commandant Anton Kaindl in March 1943 facilitated the means to kill larger numbers of prisoners” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsenhausen_concentration_camp

          2. Niemals Avatar

            It is useless to discuss the Holocaust with an Holocaust denial.
            Omega claims that there are no evidence – he can’t find any documented evidence (Deutsches Ordnung…).

            He is convinced that criminals all ways document their crimes, so the Nazis did it too…., and then they destroyed it when it was clear that it can harm them.

          3. The gas chambers fallacy was a post-war fabrication. There is no forensic evidence of such chambers to date. Stop making stuff up.

          4. There is no forensic evidence of the so-called gas chambers and zero war document attesting of the Jewish death toll in WW2. Only an imposed narrative of both that is, strangely, protected by laws.

            The British Israel-project was in the works since the mid-1800s by non-Jewish Brits as a bridgehead in the Middle East. Russians had the Orthodox in Jerusalem. The French had the Catholics. Britain had nobody – hence why they made the protection Jews in Palestine their ‘duty’ (read: a reason to be there). Palmerston sent troops in 1840. With the discovery of oil in the ME, more British troops followed. As Jews were forming strong alliances with Britain’s competitors in Europe, Britain gave the Israel-project momentum in creating an anti-Jewish tensions which culminated with Hitler, Nazism and WW2. Jews would have never migrated out of Europe otherwise.

          5. more mental masturbation on Israel

          6. I read: I cannot contradict.

          7. you are mental masturbating on jews, idiot OmegaHell

          8. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            The Arabs sold out the Middle East to the Western powers on so many occasions:
            1. Morocco was among the first countries to recognize the US.
            2. Lawrence of Arabia.
            3. ISIS.

            You guys have no loyality to your fellow Arabs. Look how Palestinians are treated in Lebanon. Look what Arab countries are doing to Qatar.

          9. Before all, educate yourself on who’s Arab and who’s not: http://phoenicia.org/today.html Then, look at your alleged country, Iran where Mossadegh, the (Jewish) Shah and the Ayatollah Khomeini were all Anglo-American puppets. All enthroned and dethroned as it was seen fit to suit Britain’s agenda. That being said, I can’t disagree the Arabs sold the ME to the West (Britain) many times but the Anglo-American’s nefarious/devastating footprint in the ME can’t also be ignored.

            1. What is the relevance?
            2. More of a Trojan horse.
            3. ISIS is a Western creation.

            Lebanon has done its parts: host the displaced Palestinians (after the Zionists killed, raped, chased them away while destroying their towns and villages (http://bit.ly/2sykIKL)). Nobody bothers them, oppress them, arrest them – like Israelis do. What had your alleged country, Iran, done for them exactly?

          10. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Why on earth would Iran help Palestinians? Do we owe them anything? Every other day some Palestinian talk sh!t about Iran and you expect us to help them?

          11. In that case, stop funding, disarm and dissolve Hezbollah from Lebanon. What is their purpose in Lebanon exactly?

          12. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I definitely agree Iran shouldn’t give a penny to Hezbollah.

          13. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Honestly who is “us”? Your Mullahs rule you with an Iron fist and freedom of speech is a death sentence. I bet you do not even live there.
            Besides, if you owe them nothing why don’t you bud out and worry about yourselves. You keep financing the “other side of terror” because you and the Saudis are afraid to face off. You finance others to do your bid. We’ve seen your likes in Syria… When the shit hits the fan your army runs leaving behind Hezbollah to fend for themselves. If you do not believe me search and see for yourself.
            One more thing… If you have such despise for Arabs, why on Earth do you follow an Arabian prophet and believe an Arabian Quran? Convert to Christianity and be done with it.

          14. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Instead of telling me to go away you should tell the Arabs to move away from the ME. There is nothing to prove that even KSA had an Arab majority prior to Eslam.

          15. I told you this before and I”ll repeat: you need to get your facts in order (read: educate yourself) who what and who is an “Arab” (ethnically vs designation). A good start here: http://phoenicia.org/today.html

            In regards to the latter part of your comment (and from the aforementioned page):

            “The employment of the name Arab for an inhabitant of any portion of the vast peninsula known to us as Arabia, begins somewhere in the 3rd century B.C.” – James Hastings, “Dictionary of the Bible” (ed. by , New York, 1898, 1st vol., p. 135)

            Islam came to be in the 7th century AD.

          16. Iran has never helped anyone. Not the Palestinians, not Lebanon.

          17. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            There you have it.

          18. Got it, thanks for clarifying.

  6. Omega Avatar

    I’ll reiterate:

    The Palestinians are the descendants of the inhabitants of the land (who never left), not Arabs who came from surrounding countries.

    Your dumb, unfounded, propagandist myth was promoted by presstitute fake-scholars like Joan Peter in her book From Time Immemorial but factually ripped apart by Norman Finkelstein (a Jew) in his two books, The Holocaust Industry and Image and Reality of the Israeli-Palestine Conflict.

    Even Ytzak Rabin acknowledged that Golda Mabovich (aka Meir)’s old idea that the Palestinians never existed was an outright lie. Do you think an Israeli Prime Minister would stand on the lawn of the White House and shake Yassir Arafat’s hand if the Palestinians did not exist?

    1. Playing words game, OmegaHell. So called in 1964 in soviet KGB (why difficult for you to google facts, corrupted idiot?) Orabian “Falsetinians” are not ancient Philistines but modern Hamastanians and Fatahlandians in occupied by them Judea and Samaria and Gazaa

      1. Omega Avatar

        No wordplay but facts.

        1. intentionally selected by you idiot out of context

  7. Hannibal Avatar
    Hannibal

    Simple to prove otherwise really… The 1945 UN estimate shows that Arab ownership of Arab land was on average 68% of a district, ranging from 15% ownership in the Beer-Sheba district to 99% ownership in the Ramallah district. THAT was after 25 years of European jewish immigration because of rampant European anti-semitism. In 1920 only local Palestinian Jews owned about 10% of the land on average and they were well integrated within the land in all of the Levant. That is why it was NOT uncommon to see a mosque, a church and a synagogue built SIDE by SIDE NOT on top of the ruins of another entity. Anti-Jewish riots erupted after the mandate when “refugee” Jews started arriving to the “promised land” now that God became a real estate agent. 😉
    Below: Proof from minted currency and passports of Palestine as a country.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2959bf7e20888fdd5b712b6bc0b37b06b0e8dca8d895a0d025480dcb97442933.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e1d1dd575d6e326467fdab73a1e91313bf31b0ff601a74981dd7a612a2b7eb3.jpg

    1. Niemals Avatar
      Niemals

      Simple to prove that in 1927 it was called Land of Israel as well. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4676e60af7ccd3d855f45f79b65e7e98176c9f9798b162001ac04659c5c54d3d.jpg
      On the coin you see in Arabic: فلسطين‎‎ Filasṭīn; in Hebrew: (פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א”י Pālēśtīnā (EY), where “EY” (א”י) indicates “Eretz Yisrael”, Land of Israel.

      1. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        So let me get this straight… There is a Filastin in Arabic and Palestine in English and Palestina in Hebrew and you ignore ALL of that to point out a parenthesis with an aleph ya and it is relevant how? LOL Pathetic.

        1. Niemals Avatar
          Niemals

          My guess is that the “parenthesis with an aleph ya” probably inspired the Jews to call the new established stat Israel and not Palestina in Hebrew, the (פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א”י become relevant in choosing of the name, wouldn’t you agree?

          1. It was written this way only because of Arab objections. The Jews had no use for “Palestine” in Hebrew, the Arabs objected to “Eretz Yisra’el”. The British imposed a compromise mostly to satisfy the Arabs.

          2. Niemals Avatar
            Niemals

            The meaning of those Hebrew letters א”י was interpreted for me, as well as adding the remark you pointed out about “Eretz Yisra’el”.

            After the repeated attacks in England and today in Paris, I think I (we) know how you in Israel feel when you are attacked by cars or knives.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b035fd3a00a1a6c10abecf0594f3d05e08cd71114e1587ee75c636ecca397b32.jpg
            When you kill your attackers (terrorists), criticism from Westerners is heard.

            When you kill your attackers (terrorists), criticism from Westerners is heard.

            No one complain when the police shoot the terrorists – on the contrary, they are praised by the people.

      2. What do you expect from Ignorant Hanibal to know Hebrew…..
        He just reads what his empty mind gets.
        But he dose not understand that by submiting his nonsese he shoots himself in his leg.
        As this Infantile at the end is working for the Zionist, indicating that in 1927 The name was א”י THE LAND OF ISRAEL.

    2. Niemals Avatar
      Niemals

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4676e60af7ccd3d855f45f79b65e7e98176c9f9798b162001ac04659c5c54d3d.jpg On the coin you see in Arabic: فلسطين‎‎ Filasṭīn; in Hebrew: (פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א”י Pālēśtīnā (EY), where “EY” (א”י) indicates “Eretz Yisrael”, Land of Israel.

    3. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      I see Palestine written in 3 languages… Proof enough it existed before Israel’s stillbirth.

      1. Are you even vaguely familiar with the meaning of the word “stillbirth”?

        You’re not that bright as it is, why add totally meaningless stupidity to the mix? 🙂

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          To vex you and it is working 😛

          1. Reality check, pal: I’m perfectly comfortable with you – and your ilk – being stupid. In fact, your stupidity is the Good Guys’ best ally. 🙂

          2. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Personal attack troll. I won’t lower myself to your chosen level 😉

          3. “I won’t lower myself…”
            I can’t imagine how you possibly could. 🙂

          4. Hannibal, please don’t corrupt information, don’t be OmegaHell like

          5. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            I never corrupt… I am fair. I am a centrist in MOST of my politics. There will never be room for extremist views and zionism is an ism with another ism. 😉

          6. Hannibal Avatar
            Hannibal

            Therefore let me answer you in kind: Yes I am familiar with stillbirth and I wish you had been one. 😉

  8. At the request of Israel, Denmark stops financing 24 Falestinian organizations http://www.newsru.co.il/world/05jun2017/dania_0014.html

  9. Israel granted temporary status to 200 refugees from Darfur http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/08jun2017/darfur_102.html

  10. 10.06 Representatives of the Gaza Strip controlling the terrorist
    organization Hamas have condemned UNRWA’s report on the discovery of
    military tunnels under the school building for boys of Al-Maazi.
    The organization’s statement states that there are no tunnels under the schools.
    Night before it became known about the discovery of an
    underground tunnel, passing under the territory of the school,
    operating under the auspices of the United Nations Agency for Assistance
    to Falestinian Refugees (UNRWA).
    The
    agency condemned the laying of the tunnel under the school grounds,
    calling the tunnel an unacceptable threat to children and teachers, as
    well as violating the neutrality of the UN framework

  11. Niemals Avatar

    On the 50th anniversary of the end of the sixth day war, it’s a heavy responsibility that falls on the European Union for Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territories.
    It is time to take responsibility for this absolutely unacceptable situation.

  12. Simply put, the Six-Day War was another Israeli lie.

    The Six Day War and Israeli Lies: What I Saw at the CIA
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/05/the-six-day-war-and-israeli-lies-what-i-saw-at-the-cia/

  13. Simply put, the Six-Day War was another Israeli lie.

    The Six Day War and Israeli Lies: What I Saw at the CIA

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/05/the-six-day-war-and-israeli-lies-what-i-saw-at-the-cia/

    1. Rudy1947 Avatar
      Rudy1947

      Your article seems to concentrate on the Egyptian troops rather than the Syrian, Iraqi and Jordanian troops that were ready and that the Egyptian Air Force was the largest in the area. The article also fails to mention that 8 other countries stood ready and fought in this war. Again, Goodmen fails to meant 30,000 Egyptian troops being taken out of the Yemeni Civil War, 2 or 3 Divisions. Nasser was not the only contributor.

      1. The size of the Egyptian Air Force is irrelevant as Egypt was not readying to attack Israel.

        The CIA, meanwhile, had the benefit of satellite photography that showed Egyptian planes parked on airfields wingtip-to-wingtip, which pointed to no plan to attack.

        Syria, Iraq, Jordan, the seven supporting countries and the PLO were not standing ready to fight the war. That is part of the lie regurgitated, ad nauseam, by the West and its cohort of presstitute ‘historians’ and ‘journalists’. Israel attacked Egypt, played the victim in order to steal more lands.

        Israel Deceived the World in 1967, and Paid the Price for It in 1973
        http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/six-day-war-50-years/.premium-1.793400

        1. Rudy1947 Avatar
          Rudy1947

          “The size of the Egyptian Air Force is irrelevant as Egypt was not readying to attack Israel.”

          Oh dear. The size of the Egyptian Air Force was extremely relevant since they had a 3 to 2 advantage in numbers and were also laden with top line Russian aircraft of the time. The fact that the Egyptian Air Force was not ready was Egypt’s problem. The combined air forces held a 3 to 1 advantage over Israel.

          Egypt had already thrown the UN out and set up a blockade of the Tiran Straits and according to the CIA’s standing US President:

          “If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other, it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed. The right of innocent, maritime passage must be preserved for all nations.”

          The difference between a defensive position and an offensive position is one step forward and cranking up an engine. The Arabs got their collective hind quarters whooped even with a 3 to 1 advantage.

          1. What part of it was not readying to attack don’t you understand? Israel lied, attacked and then played the victim. It is now acknowledged as so.

            The US wanted to get rid of Nasser as much as Israel.

            The difference between defensive and offensive is in your head. Reality was otherwise.

          2. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            The whole purpose of a pre-emptive attack is to surprise the enemy. Egypt’s lack of foresight with a touch of arrogance caused a massive destruction of their AF.

            And Nasser popularity is of little significance since he was quite popular in Egypt.

            Your lack of simple military terms and tactics is glaring.

          3. It was not pre-emptive and Israeli officials admitted so. They decided to attack.

            Where do you read me write on Nasser’s popularity? I said both the US and Israel saw a common objective in getting rid of Nasser.

            Warming benches in Germany doesn’t make you a military expert either. I rely on Israeli officials’ statements:

            • Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged that “In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

            • Yitzhak Rabin, who would also later become Prime Minister of Israel, admitted in 1968 that “I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it.”

            • Israelis have also acknowledged that their own rhetoric at the time about the “threat” of “annihilation” from the Arab states was pure propaganda.

            • General Chaim Herzog, commanding general and first military governor of the occupied West Bank following the war, admitted that “There was no danger of annihilation. Israeli headquarters never believed in this danger.”

            • General Ezer Weizman similarly said, “There was never a danger of extermination. This hypothesis had never been considered in any serious meeting.”

            • Chief of Staff Haim Bar-Lev acknowledged, “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six-Day War, and we had never thought of such possibility.”

            • Israeli Minister of Housing Mordechai Bentov has also acknowledged that “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail, and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”

            Israel went to do the same in 1982: provoked Lebanon, bombed alleged PLO positions, attacked Lebanon, lied and then played the victim: https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2003/06/23/16218181.php

          4. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            It was pre-emptive.

            I wrote it, stop whining.

            Considering how little you know I might be mistaken of an armchair General

            Begin had a choice, they made the choice.

            Nasser got what he deserved for the multiple errors he made.

            Many Israelis have not.

            The IDF strength was such that extermination was deterred, not the attitude of the surrounding Arabs

            The 6 Day War was a brilliant victory for Israel and an embarrassing defeat for the Arabs.

          5. • You say it was pre-emptive, facts, official statements, etc state otherwise. And, I am the one whining. Right.

            • Parroting the mainstream narrative is not knowing much – other than the mainstream/imposed narrative.

            • Begin did have a choice: they decided to attack despite knowing Egypt showed no intention to attack Israel. I’ll re-copy-paste what Begin said; maybe you missed it the first twenty times: “In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

            • Nasser had no intention to attack Israel and neither did other Arab countries. Stop your aberrant lies.

            • There never was a threat of extermination or annihilation. It looks like it’s one of those slow days for you. I’ll re-copy-paste what I quoted earlier:

            Israelis have also acknowledged that their own rhetoric at the time about the “threat” of “annihilation” from the Arab states was pure propaganda.

            General Chaim Herzog, commanding general and first military governor of the occupied West Bank following the war, admitted that “There was no danger of annihilation. Israeli headquarters never believed in this danger.

            General Ezer Weizman similarly said, “There was never a danger of extermination. This hypothesis had never been considered in any serious meeting.

            Chief of Staff Haim Bar-Lev acknowledged, “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six-Day War, and we had never thought of such possibility.”

            Israeli Minister of Housing Mordechai Bentov has also acknowledged that “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail, and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.

            Simply put Roodie: the Zionist slime attacked, stole some more lands and then lied they were the victims.

          6. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            Pre-Emptive, most assuredly.

            Partly anything by anybody is what? Nonsense comes to mind.

            Begin chose with the info at hand, waiting to find out was not an option. Considering the odds of 3 to 1, Begin made the right choice.

            Massing armies of multiple nations along the border of one nation is a definite threat. Firing harassment rounds for months by the Syrians, a blockade, removing the UN. That is a threat of war, not a card game.

            With an IDF force as such, annihilation would be difficult, proven impossible and Israel must also content with the other Arab states politically.

            The Arabs lost tactical, strategically, and politically.

          7. That’s wonderful Roodie. Have another beer.

          8. Rudy1947 Avatar
            Rudy1947

            I just might.

  14. Egypt intends to stop the supply of electricity to Gaza http://www.newsru.co.il/mideast/12jun2017/egipet_710.html

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Now that becomes the worst and the biggest concentration camp humanity have seen. It dwarfs Nazi concentration camps by strides.

      1. But situation in Gaza is better than in Syria?

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Not sure I haven’t been in Syria for a while.

          1. I know good man by internet in Gaza, hope he will be O.K. with electricity

          2. Niemals Avatar

            This good man in Gaza you know via Internet have probably seen this broadcasting about #FakeNews #Gaza makes a movie for the world… ;
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/546713069fada8e9a56fe6c4a87d2f22c83d6a884093b9aed538086b0fa530ac.jpg
            and Abyad Hind have her own contribution about
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b65ce14f91e8933ee73757c777ca9d9ed40bef2b17f52a7e22ee041c97c413d1.jpg
            the supply of electricity to Gaza.

            Given that Hannibal never visited the worst concentration camps in Europe, maybe Hannibal had recently been in Gaza to see the biggest “concentration camp”?
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/455e59ec3541412f08f9e9726b37ac43b282f0c8cbb3a3b0aa50dc8ae9d8e0f9.jpg
            A section of Gaza, the so called “concentration camp”

  15. In the evening on Monday, June 12, the “Falestinian” Orab woman was
    detained at the entrance to the Cave of the Forefathers in Hebron, the
    press service of the police said.

    According
    to published information, she held a knife in her hand, but did not
    have time to apply it, as she was stopped by border guards (MAGAV). Orabian woman threw a knife to the ground and was detained.

    At the first interrogation it turned out that we are talking about a resident of Yatta (district of Hebron). The terrorist was about 25 years old, and during the interrogation she
    said that she intended to commit an act of terrorism to become a
    shahid.

    The detainee was transferred to the general security service (Shin Bet) for the investigation

  16. Niemals Avatar

    Palestinian Authority bans news sites critical of Abbas.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b70e6a46b55b6069c44b9a690bb7588268b7b0d7b76cc18f518e2c82023a0e9.jpg
    Furthermore, ‘Honor killing’: Bedouin woman ‘murdered by relatives,’ body burned in Israel
    Published time: 19 Jun, 2017 13:31
    Three men have been charged with kidnapping and burning their relative, a 19-year-old divorced woman, in a Bedouin town in southern Israel, according to state prosecutors. The accused reportedly believed the woman would shame the family by dating other men.
    Hanan al-Bahiri went missing on May 3 after speaking on the phone to her mother on the way home in the town of Lakiya. Her mother, Dalal al-Bahiri, contacted the police, prompting a search. The woman indicated her suspicion of Hanan’s uncle and two other relatives,
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7b1576b18055394c0ef5f5bb058d3f293c8e593652d9a16bce0a896c5e439efe.jpg Haaretz reports.
    (www.rt.com/news)

  17. Niemals Avatar

    Netanyahu has obviously completely broken mind when laying the foundation for (Beitar Illit) for the ultra-Jordanian settlers in West Jordan. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/963772ac1bbf0fe521d5ef6d9ae1df45dc5341d8d52386d3ed1e03696cfcf39e.jpg Ultra-Orthodox Jews on the way to the Inauguration Ceremony in Beitar Illit in West Jordan

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