Nato: Russia and Islamic State are the 2 main threats

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ISIS , RussiaNato has described Russia and Islamic State (IS) as the two main threats to Western security, but says it can still talk to Russia despite its invasion of Ukraine.

Nato secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen likened Russia to IS in a speech at the Carnegie Europe think tank in Brussels on Monday (15 September).

He said: “Russia considers Nato, and the West more broadly, as an adversary. Russia has trampled all the rules and commitments that have kept peace in Europe and beyond since the end of the Cold War … from Moldova to Georgia, and now in Ukraine, Russia has used economic pressure and military actions to produce instability, to manufacture conflicts”.

He noted that IS “risks exporting terrorists to our countries … [it is] virulent, violent, and viciously anti-Western. They will grasp every opportunity to undermine our values”.

Referring to Russia and IS together, he added: “We are on the frontline of a new battle – a new battle between tolerance and fanaticism, between democracy and totalitarianism, between open and closed societies. In this new age of unrest and revisionism, we must stand strong and we must stand united as a force for freedom”.

Answering questions at the Carnegie event, Rasmussen noted that the two threats are different, however

He said Russia is trying to create a frozen conflict in east Ukraine to prevent it joining the EU or Nato and that “we should never accept that”.

But he ruled out use of force to halt Russian aggression in Ukraine.

“I don’t think Russia poses an imminent threat to Nato allies,” he said.

“For Ukraine, we do believe the right way forward is a political solution and while it’s clear Russia has violated international norms and rules, I still think Russia is capable of this [a political solution] if they decide to do so”.

The Nato head advocated use of force against IS by what he called a “coalition of the willing” inside Nato.

The US-led group includes six EU countries – Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, and the UK – as well as Australia, Canada, and Turkey.

Rasmussen added that UN rules give them the right to attack IS to stop “genocide” in Iraq and Syria and as an act of “self-defence”.

“As far as I can see, there is a basis in the fundamental UN charter principles to conduct a military operation against ISIS [an alternative name for IS]”, he said.

He urged the UN to do more on post-conflict state-building to prevent the kind of disorder which erupted in Libya after Nato strikes toppled the old regime.

He also excused Turkey for not letting the anti-IS group use its air bases, noting that IS is holding hostage several dozen Turkish diplomats.

“I have to say, I consider Turkey a staunch ally”, he said.

Asked about Scotland’s Nato prospects if it splits from the UK in this week’s referendum, Rasmussen said it would have to reapply to join.

“If a new country wants to join Nato it must apply to join and such an application will be addressed in the same way all applications are dealt with and, eventually, it will require consensus, unanimity in the alliance to accept a new member”.

He added that Nato has not discussed the Scottish question.

It normally takes Nato aspirant states several years to join. But he hinted that Scotland’s application might proceed quickly, because pace of progress is based on fulfilment of technical criteria.
EU Observer

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329 responses to “Nato: Russia and Islamic State are the 2 main threats”

  1. $89733098 Avatar

    NATO and the US don’t invade nor torture! Hypocrisy abounds.

    1. They are tried to scare all muslims.The truth the two,Russia and America is in hostile and will remain as enemy to each other.Where is American Zionist armies.Step down you boots in iraq and fight ISIS.You are started this war.planted unstable muslims ,who surrounded Israel.. .and end it.Not being a coward by flying high in the sky.Show you patriotisme on behalf of your master,Zionist Jews.And Iraqis sunnis show theirs.God will judge both of you at after here.What are you scare for ?.if you not fight ISIS all over the world will know you true black face.Hide it by fighting ISIS on the ground.Your master ,Zionist Jews will favor you more money and peace in here ,even at after here.Don,t scare ISIS .They are terrorist,animals and too bad.Zionist Jews and you,White Zionist are very very very kind people and only true human being in the earth. All over the world know this.Fight them at your best.Don,t be scare to die.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Wow Zabada … they booted you TOO ?? 🙂

        1. Trolling through the archives?
          And going back a year just to take a personal dig. Your hypocrisy is equal to daft mare, ya 5th column.

          1. Hind Abyad Avatar

            Liar , it was Patience not 5th, i saw it.

  2. 5thDrawer Avatar

    I assume Putin prefers riding horses bare-chested in Siberia … But, I wonder how Melnichenko and Abramovich feel about Putin’s latest moves and the repercussions in Western sanctions. 🙂
    This is interesting stuff … and Caliph’s Airplanes can’t do much better, I’m sure. :-)))
    I include a Short Video Tour of “A” …. although the Billion-dollar one puts it to shame.
    (Most Ukrainians can’t afford a row-boat …)
    http://www.wsj.com/video/inside-a-russian-billionaire-300-million-yacht/B91C478A-E6BB-4FCA-BD8C-61A1E79AB0B0.html?mod=trending_now_video_1

  3. $89733098 Avatar

    “Russia has trampled all the rules and commitments that have kept peace in Europe and beyond since the end of the Cold War … from Moldova to Georgia, and now in Ukraine”.

    “”(NATO) says it can still talk to Russia despite its invasion of Ukraine”

    Geez what will it take for nato not to talk to Russia.

  4. The IS Caliphate is certainly a great threat. It has occupied/created a black hole in the Middle East and behaving in a barbaric manner . Retaking territory held by it will be horror because that will involve cities with civilian populations.

    Still, the Caliphate is not an existential threat to world order on the scale that Russia is. We know what the Caliphate wants. We are a great deal less sure about Putin’s objectives, only that he is willing to overthrow just about anything to achieve them.

    Some view nuclear Russia under Putin ( as he rotates between presidency and premiership) as being the most dangerous threat the world order faces today and in the foreseeable future.

  5. 9 11 is the work of Zionist Jews and Top American Politicians at the time.and it,s top office officers,who are bribed by Zionist Jews.Than blame muslims in order to destroy them on behalf of Israel.It is too hard to survive in midst of too many Arabs.Israel must plan something to destroy these Arabs.Than America dethrone Saddam are superior at the area.Hence there are wars forever in Iraq,since Sunni will rebel on Syiah,who the new master in Iraq.They know this.To plant democracy is a fake.America not intervene in Syria in order to prolong the war.Otherwise they are .fighting ISIS ,also in order to prolong a war,since Syiah Iraq was defeated by ISIS Sunni.Now America dragged all over the world to fight ISIS.But they will make sure not to fight ISIS to the end in order to prolong wars.There are no too strong force in any side at the area.That is their plan to destroy Arabs.America is hiding it true black face in the name of democracy and it going to show it,s white face all over the world.America is not helping.The worse American now, was Zionist Jew,s slaves.America will drag all nation to fight and die for Jews,including ignorant Arabs,who are only protecting their crown ,not their religion.At the past many Arabs are using religion as a tool to gain politic.They don,t care if they are going to corrupted religious teaching by that,including Persians.That why muslims divided in three.Sunni,Syiah and Wahabi.Their politic also is the same.Some of Arab practice monarchy..some of them practice dictatorship..some times autocracy…some of them practice democracy.Hence there are no single tool can unite all Arabs now,not religion and not politic.The worse Arabs politician is too greedy in politic,even in democracy they don,t like to step down.You know well how these greedy politicians behave in monarchy and dictatorship.All fraction. above can destroy Arabs.Lack of civilization,modernization, turned them to be the weakest nation in the world and make them ,even worse..They turned to the most ignorant people in both religion and worldly life.They are fully blind.That why Jews,who are expert in manipulation,cheating,fooling,enslaving,easily defeated these Arabs with the hand of America, who are already being a slaves to Jews,Zionist Jews.To when these Arabs will slack in their deep long slept.Let we see these Arab,s black white drama.

  6. America killing more people in this century versus others.Count it out.

  7. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
    TheUSequalsTheIS

    to the majority of the world nato is the no. 1 terrorist threat… by the way whats the difference between the US and the IS?

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      I can’t remember the last time American troops dug a big hole, put 500 women into it, and then filled it in. For that matter, I can’t remember the last time they marched hundreds of POW’s into a desert and then shot them all. So … there MUST be a difference. Have you actually looked?
      I’d love to see what you consider ‘the majority’, too.

      Zabada says he has a ‘count’ …. maybe you can ask him.

      1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
        TheUSequalsTheIS

        digging a big hole and bury 500 ppl in it, is not what nato does but nato rather digs a big hole and bury 50000000 in it. like they did in iraq, libya, syria, afghanistan..
        did u know that the west has killed more than 200 millions ppl over the last 100 yrs. can u name one middle easterner that has been any where near that number?????

        1. $89733098 Avatar

          We believe the price is worth it.
          Madeleine Albright.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes. She said that. Not all Americans think it.
            (until maybe you threaten all of them)
            One of those ‘War Statements’ ….. admittedly, not as ‘flowery’ as some that have come out of Iran – or other peoples mouths – with the ‘Fire & Brimstone’ epithets. She could have added:
            ‘The angels will carry the unfortunate innocents and bystanders to a wonderful home in the clouds, and all their sins will be as nothing, and they will eat at God’s table forever’. Etc, etc ….
            But there’s only so much time given for TV speech-making.

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar

          50000000 is the ‘refugee’ count. You read that ‘factoid’ wrong.
          And if you’re going back 100 years, why not 3000?
          I assume you count in the 6 million Jews too, of course. That was a ‘western’ war as we all know … right?

          1. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            How can the IS thrive and prosper in a region where literally no one supports them be it christians, non-israeli jews, shias and even sunnis??

            the US created this craziness to fight assad; a pretty popular president of his country and now 3 yrs later we r to believe the two r arch foes just like that? the US may be very talented in many fields including lying but acting is not one of them which is why i along wid millions of middle easterners are not buying this set up .ur acting skills neither deserve an oscar so spare me ur fake compassion wid the 50000000 refugees in iraq, the 500 buried in a hole and small middle eastern girls who cant go to school when u r the reason why these things – and many more before that – happened in the first place.

            let me refresh ur selective memory a little bit; does abu ghraib ring a bell?
            does the downing of an iranian jetliner?
            does the syrian war?
            does the somali war?
            does the libyan war?
            does the iraqi wars? (in plural)
            does the iran-iraq war?
            does the korean war?
            does the vietnamese war?
            does the cold war?
            does mossadegh?
            does the assassination of iranian scientists?

            and i even didnt go 100 yrs back in time and u have already surpassed the number of crimes against humanity of the entire world combined. 200 millions.

          2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            what is that??? more lies? keep them to urself

          3. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Truth … as you wish it. 🙂

          4. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            twisted truth though

          5. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Your favourite subject. 😉

          6. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            ur major subject 😉

          7. 5thDrawer Avatar

            ‘counterbalanced’ ….. equality … we agree to disagree. 🙂 No gun. ;-)))

          8. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            well as my nick implies: the US equals the IS:
            http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/isis-trained-by-us-government/

          9. 5thDrawer Avatar

            So everyone has their fave theories, don’t they?
            I rather liked the ‘first-hand report’ in newsweek …
            But aside from that, I’m tired of seeing the results … just like you are.
            (ok … that was an assumption about you ..)

          10. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i prefer the truth.
            i’m more first hand than u wud ever be 7abibi! i have lived in the middle east and europe… i know how the west surpresses the ppl of the ME and how the the western leaders manipulate their own populations to believe that they are doing the world a ‘favor’! stupid westerners!

          11. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yup. I guess the ‘occasional tourist’ can’t know much. I don’t pay taxes there.
            And if you can’t believe the guy who lived it, then there’s not much more to say, is there??

          12. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            exactly… ur knowledge about the middle east is so limited and so manipulated and so screwed that i wud appreciate if u refrain from having an opinion about any topic concerning the ME:

          13. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Likewise, I’m sure.

          14. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            seek help blease

          15. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I don’t need any … I do just fine without any of the theories driving me nuts.
            I know what I can do, where I am, and who I am. I’d be happy if the ‘ME-crowd’ just flew away to Mars and didn’t suck up my taxes so often. But I know they can’t, because a Fathead-Wah was written … too bad. eh?

          16. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            why dont u fly to mars?? we the middle easterners built the world remember???? u r just new comers.. now get ur ass flying to mars or i will kick u all the way to mars myself!

          17. 5thDrawer Avatar

            So now that gives YOU the ‘right’ to destroy it? Just great.
            (Not Supreme, however.)

          18. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            u r the one destroying it n this is what i’m trying to tell u but u r absolutely resistant to any form of info:

            i will give it another try:

            let me refresh ur selective memory a little bit; does abu ghraib ring a bell?
            does the downing of an iranian jetliner?
            does the syrian war?
            does the somali war?
            does the libyan war?
            does the iraqi wars? (in plural)
            does the iran-iraq war?
            does the korean war?
            does the vietnamese war?
            does the cold war?
            does mossadegh?
            does the assassination of iranian scientists?

          19. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Oh, like a ‘repeat’ is gonna show me anything … you can’t kick my ass from the ‘other side’ of a border either. All wars begun by some assholery … and Abu Ghraib is just as stupid, but I guess they could have walked them all into the desert and shot them too. Would have saved an awful lot of Yack in that Congress of Politicians, for sure. Screwed up my late-night TV.
            (Including the one somebody thought we should ‘rescue’ because he was just a poor brainwashed-by-his-father boy when he killed a soldier.)
            I could have been watching more sports, maybe.

          20. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            yir go watch some fucks news late night tv… i completely counterbalanced the shit they tell u so u clearly need to get back to the brainwashed state u used to be in

          21. $89733098 Avatar

            U r just as brainwashed with ur support of assad

          22. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            u r more brainwashed wid ur support of isisisisiisis

          23. $89733098 Avatar

            Hey retard if u r going to make absurd claims then back them up. It’s hilarious to watch so called men resort to labelling me Isis supporter when they can’t refute my argument.
            PROVE I support ANY terrorist and I will give u a free bj.

          24. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            u prove that fine by urself

          25. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Tfffff, you are such a lady Barabie.

          26. $89733098 Avatar

            much more of a lady than ur jihad el nikah performing ho of a wife.

          27. $89733098 Avatar

            Repeat this sentence to yourself. A BOY, yes a BOY threw a grenade and killed a SOLDIER!!!
            Well at least that’s what the yanks r saying. We don’t know the full story coz that BOY isn’t allowed to speak to the media.
            And to put a BOY in that torture gulag known as gitmo has to be one of the most despicable acts the yanks have done.

          28. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yes, and it wasn’t Canada that brainwashed him and made him go to war.
            Not my doing either /// Not ‘big’ until the news-hounds made it big.
            Too bad Gitmo is in Cuba … I’d pick a spot nearer to Baffin Island and Do what Stalin did … few guards – let ’em walk if they want.
            Of course, six walked from Siberia to India over 3 years … but then, they had to think along the way. (I think 3 made it … I can check if you need to know)

          29. $89733098 Avatar

            R u saying u support gitmo??
            Btw what that kid did was a right every human has and has been enshrined in the geneva conventions. A foreign entity invaded his land and home so he had every right to resist. U people amaze me with ur hypocrisy.

          30. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Did I say I supported it? No. I just gave an alternative.
            ‘HIS LAND’ and HOME??
            I don’t think so … otherwise he wouldn’t be back here now.
            And ‘Mommy’ wouldn’t have received the ‘child care’ benefits.

          31. $89733098 Avatar

            He was living there at the time so yes his land and home!
            Funny how u show no compassion for a child purely coz he’s the “other”.

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ah, so, by that line of reasoning, when I was in Lebanon I should have grabbed a gun and taken down some Alawite gangster in Tripoli, just to be ‘in’ with the crowd I was living with. Right.

          33. $89733098 Avatar

            If they came to your house and killed your father then u certainly had that right. Stop trying to weasel out of the geneva conventions. The kid had every right to defend his home.

          34. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And the LAF or ‘Security’ people would arrest me for killing someone … no matter WHAT I was defending. I am not a citizen. And THAT ‘kid’ is Canadian.

          35. $89733098 Avatar

            That canadian was living in Afghanistan. stop trying to take away his right to self defense.

          36. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, after some time of questioning, he got his defence, and got out of a hot shitty prison and into a nice cooler one … near Mommy. Ok? Good.
            Another hit on my tax dollars to feed him.

            And I don’t care how he got smuggled into Afghanistan either.

          37. $89733098 Avatar

            was it “questioning” or TORTURE???

          38. $89733098 Avatar

            U built nothing unless u think talking shit builds things.

          39. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i know shit doesnt build stuff bcos that will mean u cud

          40. $89733098 Avatar

            Wow that was original. Did u think that up yourself little man?

          41. $89733098 Avatar

            No they can’t go to mars! I’ve got plans to retire there away from all the hypocritical murderers and their cheer squads.

          42. $89733098 Avatar

            “. i know how Iran surpresses the ppl of the ME and how the Iranian leaders manipulate their own populations”

          43. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i’m no fan of the mollahs but that doesnt mean it will just accept any other idiot who come to our region and acts like he owns it

          44. $89733098 Avatar

            Yes we can’t have anyone else stepping onto the ayatoilets turf. Only the ayatoilets can control the ME. Even if that means getting weapons from the us through Israel.

      2. $89733098 Avatar

        Of course it’s much better killing innocents via DU, white phosphorous, daisy cutters, hellfires etc. in fact one could say Isis is better than the US coz what the yanks drop on civilians keeps killing even AFTER they have left whereas Isis killing ends with their last victim.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Still didn’t get 500 in one shot. (selectively women)
          Acid in a face has killed too … although some were only blinded, because a bit of water was found quickly, to live on with scars they can’t see, yet feel when they try to eat. Are we really doing comparatives by numbers or by horror??
          There’s a long list of horrors visited on body-parts in wars.
          But there’s a longer one of torture-chambers. And living a ‘life’ with various pieces chopped off by sword or bomb is only a matter of differences in the speed with which the bits were cut off. Do we really have preferences??

          1. $89733098 Avatar

            U started the comparatives. When facts don’t support ur argument u scream “comparatives”.

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I didn’t start anything. TUSETIS asked what was the difference between US and IS … I pointed some differences out.
            Maybe I should only have said: ‘ET’

            And I wait to know the numbers who think NATO is the #1 terror organization …. because I think that’s just ‘Balderdash’.

          3. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            Nato = North Atlantic Terror Organisation

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Sure .. two can play THAT game too.
            Irrational Religionists And Nutbars. :-)))

          5. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            if u think that there is anything religious about iran and even the iranian leadership then u r the nutbar… but hey we already knew that

          6. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I’ll drink to that. Cheers.

          7. $89733098 Avatar

            “Still didn’t get 500 in one shot.”

            Two words. Hiroshima Nagasaki.

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Which was also why they decided not to do it again.
            But indeed, you got me there. :-)) A ‘Blast from the Past’ for sure. 😉
            (not selectively women ..)

          9. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            until they used phosphor bombs in iraq…. and gave saddam loads of abc-weapons to use against iran

          10. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Ahhh … Scientific developments those ‘ME’ guys would love to get their hands on, right?? Tsk tsk .. such jealously!
            (I will talk about ‘ME’ people as in ALL from now on, as you do ‘Western’ ones.)

          11. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            its not jealousy but rather revenge and retaliation

          12. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Almost ‘biblical/koranic/watusi’ in nature … wow.

          13. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            and ‘the war on terror’ was not an act of retaliation so it cant be classified as ‘biblical/koranic/watusi’ in nature i guess

          14. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Who likes living in terror ??????
            Seems some of Assad’s ‘happy folks’ didn’t either.

          15. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            the US cant survive a single day widout terror this is why they keep producing them so that they have an excuse to invade and destroy the ME

          16. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            but the scientific developments are just side benefits 😉

          17. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol funny how Iranians never mention the weapons they were getting from the yanks THROUGH ISRAEL to use on Arabs! Hypocrite!

          18. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            arabs in plural??? to the best of my knowledge there are more than 20 arab countries and iran has so far only defended itself against only one arab aggressor wid a population made up of 30% non arabs… u still think iran wasnt entitled to push back that arab scum?

          19. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol yes keep telling yourself u were defending. Haha
            No comment on the fact u got weapons from the yanks through Israel???

          20. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            loleen u think we shud just let it happen widout defending ourselves… i will use any weapon against any one who is keen to make the mistake of attacking my country – even if the aggressor is a palestinian… so the right word is not hypocrite but rather patriot… do u have a problem wid me being a patriot?

          21. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol thank u. That was priceless!

          22. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            iran is priceless 🙂

          23. $89733098 Avatar

            Wake me up when u stop being lame and boring. U remind me of libnan1 in so much as u bored me to sleep. Do u seriously use lines like that in real life?

          24. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            then go to sleep… except for ur zionist masters no one asked u to keep talking shit on yalibnan…

          25. $89733098 Avatar

            I love how u lot keep telling anyone u disagree with to stop doing this or that.
            Note to TUEIS: we r not in Iran u sick twisted fool.

          26. Yeah I bore to sleep until yu feel my shaft.

          27. $89733098 Avatar

            yes ur shaft that is asleep. limp dick

          28. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Well Libnan, unless you have a shaft the size of telegraph poll, you have no chance of IT feeling it. :-)))

          29. $89733098 Avatar

            That definitely rules u out!

          30. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (pssst … no-one else can be a patriot … 😉 )

          31. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Hey 5th, im starting a new army. Looking for someone to lead them againt the jihadists. You interested. :-)))

          32. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Hmmmm …. what Scotch are they carrying? 😉

          33. Anti ISIS Avatar

            The scotch that will blow your mind. :-))

          34. $89733098 Avatar

            “the scotch that will blow your mind” while your wife blows nasty.

          35. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Hahahahahahaha. I love it. Remember, your the one who keeps talking about BJ. You must be good at them, hey. They do say practice makes perfect. At least you found your calling in life. Now open wide and don’t forget to gargle. Good dog.

          36. $89733098 Avatar

            is that how u speak to ur wife? all she was doing was doing her jihadi duties. After all most of her “clients” were named ali. 🙂
            takebeer to ali

          37. $89733098 Avatar

            According to ur “logic” u must b gay and u gargle.

          38. MaImequer0 Avatar

            Remember, you were the one who proclaimed that you roll your eyes up when you ‘worship’ nasty so that you could watch the expression on his face.

          39. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I think today in here already did. :-))))))

          40. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I might need to modify the ‘camouflage’ a little. 😉
            Edible oils … something like that.

          41. $89733098 Avatar

            r u missing your wife while she performs her jihad el nikah?

          42. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Lol, is that your best come back. Please come up with something new you little rat. Remember dog, jihad El nikah is performed by your sunni sisters because of fatwa given by your cleric daddy. Allah Akbar. Takebeer Takebeer. Now go be a good girl and bend over for your brothers.

          43. $89733098 Avatar

            u seem confused my dear ali wee rat. only ali worshiping rats perform slut work. hence your mum and wife bending over non stop for asshead and nasty. now get back to your toilet and pray.

          44. sweetvirgo Avatar

            LOL…..too funny!!

          45. $89733098 Avatar

            yes Arabs in plural! I will not waste my time explaining grammar to you.

          46. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i never asked u to

          47. $89733098 Avatar

            I didn’t say u did o bright one

          48. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i think u have the potential to be as bright as i am

          49. $89733098 Avatar

            And I think u have the potential to b human like me.

          50. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            And then in return Iran and Syria harbored and funded al Qaeda militants during US occupation of Iraq. Who knows what the logic is there.

          51. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Logic was ‘dumped’ in 1400 or so …

          52. $89733098 Avatar

            Ur hatred of Islam is showing again.

          53. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Not at all. He’s not even talking about Islam….

          54. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol so plz explain what other significant event happened 1400 years ago

          55. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It was the ‘schism’ between the two (basic) ‘sects’ …

          56. $89733098 Avatar

            Which still relates to islam

          57. Discuss the good being about Egyptian God’s like Ra, Geb and Nut, Shu, Osiris, Isis, Set, Nephthys, Horus, Bast, Sobek, Serqet, Anubis, Bes, Khonsu, Nekhbet, Babi, Tawaret, etc.
            Especially, sun god Ra, the only important god who was worshiped with consistency, chief of cosmic deities, the god from whom all the early Egyptian kings claimed descent, was the first incarnation of Lucifer on the planet Earth.
            That’s a good topic, he would appreciate it! He is not interested in Abrahamic God sent religions.

          58. $89733098 Avatar

            on a light note. if the sun god ra died, did his son automatically become the next sun god? what if he only had daughters?

          59. 5thDrawer Avatar

            We’d be in the dark. They couldn’t drive the chariot. :-))

          60. He can answer that best. Please check about Lucifer while you are discussing Egyptian gods and goddesses.

          61. No wonder one eye worshippers are waiting for the Light Bearer. It’s still dark out there for them and they could really use his all seeing eye-light and added benefit, he is an excellent chariot rider.:)))

          62. Anti ISIS Avatar

            And you are a true real muslim, aren’t you barabie. I mean with all that beautiful language that spews out of your mouth. And the mocking of Iman Ali (phuh). Yep, a real credit to islam you are.

          63. $89733098 Avatar

            Imam who? I thought Ali was god. A cousin of the sun god Ra. Hail Ali. Hail ur god! Screw u and ur god!

          64. $89733098 Avatar

            And off all on this blog u r the last one that should b preaching about language. Abusing my dead mother then crying when it’s returned in kind. Fuck u and fuck ur god.

          65. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Crying, lol. Swear at god as much as you want you piece of dog shit. You will be judged for every word you say about God. You should be saying hail Satan you animal.

          66. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol I LOVE pissing u off. Hey I wanna know something. If Ali is god and he created mo then does that mean his daughters were gods too?

          67. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Lol, piss me off, you wish. Keep trying however. It’s takes a while to teach stray dogs.

          68. $89733098 Avatar

            Hence why u haven’t learned anything

          69. Hind Abyad Avatar

            In theory, yes.

          70. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol don’t confuse farqed up. It isn’t educated so won’t know the diff between theory and prac.

          71. Comtess di Alba Avatar
            Comtess di Alba

            There goes Madhorny the self proclaimed “anti liar, anti hypocrisy” Salafi desperado.. Comtessa di Alba doesn’t give you “likes”.. it’s just your accomplice Malmequer sheeting (as all Zionist do).

          72. $89733098 Avatar

            “Sheeting”? For the bed?
            As for self proclaimed, HAHAHAHA so neighed the self proclaimed “humanist” (as long as those humans aren’t Sunni) daft mare. Neigh neigh. Now get off ur back u dirty whore.

          73. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            My Dear Mad Cow and your ZioNazi lapdog get off my back.. not interested by in your Sunni -Shia Sects existential problems

          74. $89733098 Avatar

            LOLLLLL
            The sectarian whore is neighing about …., oh who gives a flying fuck what the daft mare is neighing about. The compassionate thing to do when a horse is in pain is to put it down.

          75. $89733098 Avatar

            I’ve already told u that mal and I can’t be on ur back coz u r on ur own back for Assad and nasty and el supremo. How u have the time to blog while “entertaining” ur masters is a mystery.

          76. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            Go to hell with Assad, don’t know who’s nasty et el supremo, take nasty et al supremo with you and don’t forget your caniche the Zio retard, that hastime to stalk two years, to hell with you and FY .

          77. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            You showed everybody here your a whore, hat’s why
            you have so much time to spend waiting for clients
            I was intrigued, what sort of person uses this language with such natural spontaneity.

          78. $89733098 Avatar

            Ur mum uses that language with her clients.

          79. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            Yes of course, the whore has passed on everybody’s
            mother sister brother father uncle religion sect cats and dogs on this blog. GO. The first time you addressed me one year ago i said go away you make me vomit, and i was right it was before you exhibited your whorehouse job.

          80. $89733098 Avatar

            my nephew said he wanted to see a donkey, so i showed him pictures of your wife performing jihad el nikah with ali. Geez she gets around.

          81. Anti ISIS Avatar

            Thanks, but you know who’s picture you should have showed him, right. Grandma. Bwhahahaha.

          82. $89733098 Avatar

            Wow that hurt. Boohoohoo

          83. Hind Abyad Avatar

            This coming from the biggest apostate here. Facing in the direction karbala during prayer will not bring you any answers.

          84. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            true that baby 🙂 n i know what i’m talking about since i used to be that stupid n pray in that direction

          85. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol but u claimed u r a Kurd. Busted

          86. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            and thats contradictory because…..?????

          87. $89733098 Avatar

            Lol if u don’t know then its not up to me to educate u. 🙂

          88. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            especially due to the fact that u r not as bright as i am 🙂

          89. $89733098 Avatar

            Karbala? Is that what he calls his toilet?

          90. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            Malmequer jumping from one ID to the other and the “Iam anti liar, anti hypocrisy” playing the game.

          91. Hind Abyad Avatar

            ali has nothing to do with Islam.

          92. $89733098 Avatar

            What does phuh mean?

          93. MaImequer0 Avatar

            Pharqued Hezzied Up Hypocrite?

          94. $89733098 Avatar

            I like ur pic 😉

          95. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            Faker Malmaquer.

          96. $89733098 Avatar

            U r obsessed with mal. Sorry but mal doesn’t do mutah nor mares!

          97. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            The real Comtessa knows nothing about ali..zio troll

          98. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            MadHorny yesterday proclaimed: “I am anti liar, anti hypocrisy..” Ya lateef..then said to me:”having personalities problems much?” I told her ask that to your partner Zio Malmequer” Anti hypocrisy evaded ..

          99. $89733098 Avatar

            seems u r wrong yet again. he admitted it was about islam. u should learn to think before typing.

          100. 5thDrawer Avatar

            No I didn’t … you only asked about what significant event happened that dumped logic out the window … which had something to do with various methods of killing, before WWII got into it. Not my fault IF it relates to Islam.
            (I can’t even scroll that far back now …. ;-))

          101. $89733098 Avatar

            “not my fault IF it relates to islam”

            there u go admitting it AGAIN. 🙂

          102. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yup .. as it was presented to ‘them’ … the people screwed by it.

          103. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            that applies to the west. in the case of the middle east logical was lost when oil was found about 100 yrs ago… yunno when the west started to kill everybody

          104. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            i think u speak english so u shud understand this:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw

          105. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Exactly. 20 years ago they weren’t al Qaeda and they weren’t Sunni extremists. Us invasion of Iraq they are Sunni extremists and they are funded and harbor end in Iran and Syria.

          106. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
            TheUSequalsTheIS

            hhhhhh i knew u wudnt understand simple english. u need subtitles

          107. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            You need to learn how to spell in english….

          108. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
            Comtessa di Alba

            Born 26 years ago, at the time the US was busy supporting and arming their ally Ben Ladin against
            the Russians. There were no Alqaeda in Iraq..(but
            as usual you’re a stranger to Middle East). The Sharia Moslem Brotherhood for Sharia were everywhere, for generations since the 30ths, the co founder of Al Qaeda is Ayman Al Zawarihi an Egyptian member of the Brotherhood, head of Al Qaeda, many FSA were from the Brotherhood we see Idriss and ISIS posing for pictures, they all united in Sectarian hatred for Shia, Alawite and Christians, Brotherhood had members extending from the Hejjaz to the Maghreb, to America, to Europe, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria Iraq, claiming to unite all Sunni, to stop the spineless Arabs and Christians from creating divisions among Sunni. That’s why Jihad came from all over the world to Syria, Christians were the first killed, all YaLibnan community was interested in was Assads Asshead, ONE MAN..ignoring the ME was burning, that the fire would consume Syria but also Lebanon, that the World could catch on fire in division.

          109. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Ended up actually saving over a million lives. A ground invasion to end ww2 was predicted to be worse than the fight for France.

            They were dropped two days apart, with a warning before the first one, after the first one, and before the second one. The Japanese emperor at the time was slow to realize it was over.

          110. $89733098 Avatar

            Oh u silly boy. I have already posted proof that that excuse was nothing but a lie. Mate educate yourself b4 u open ur mouth. In fact the old broom and 5th can confirm that.

          111. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            What proof? I dont keep up with the site much anymore.

          112. $89733098 Avatar

            Give me a few minutes to find it

          113. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            If its one website in a million with some absurd statement please spare me the time.

          114. $89733098 Avatar

            My name isn’t daft mare or the real lebanese!

            “The US atomic destruction of 140,000 people at Hiroshima and 70,000 at
            Nagasaki was never “necessary” because Japan was already smashed, no
            land invasion was needed and Japan was suing for peace. The official
            myth that “the bombs saved lives” by hurrying Japan’s surrender can no
            longer be believed except by those who love to be fooled. The long-standing fiction has been destroyed by the historical record kept in US, Soviet, Japanese and British archives — now mostly declassified — and detailed by Ward Wilson in his book “Five Myths about Nuclear Weapons””

            http://www.uruknet.info/?p=108894

            Note: bold mine.

          115. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Japan wasn’t already smashed. Japan was completely untouched….. Please look it up so i dont have to explain everything to you. The Japanese were still bombing Island controlled by the US in the Pacific. Claiming that Japan was suing for peace is another bs statement. Japanese soldiers were known to fight to the death.

          116. $89733098 Avatar

            lol those who love to be fooled

            Even old broom doesn’t deny that Japan was already smashed. Keep lying to yourself buddy.

          117. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Your article doesnt even say Japan was smashed. It just says Japan would’ve surrendered without stating why and without stating why they didn’t surrender to the US warnings. People just agree with you to avoid getting in arguments like this.

          118. $89733098 Avatar

            “The US atomic destruction of 140,000 people at Hiroshima and 70,000 at
            Nagasaki was never “necessary” because Japan was already smashed, no
            land invasion was needed and Japan was suing for peace.

            Wow you are so bright.

          119. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Wow the japs must’ve been so bright to wait and see what the second bomb would do. And I was reffering to before the first bomb….

          120. 5thDrawer Avatar

            It depends – many years later – what the present ‘agenda’ is when opening the old documents. Anti-Nuclear? Anti-American? Anti-War? Still need ‘translators’ for 1945 minds. 😉 (Let alone year 1000 ,,,)

          121. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            I need Barabie to translate how Japan was smashed if there were no foreign troops on its soil….

          122. $89733098 Avatar

            LOLLLLLLL
            so a country can’t be smashed unless it has foreign troops on its soil????????
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          123. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, that was a bit of the point there …. only lost 2 cities, and no more soldiers. Either ‘side’.

          124. $89733098 Avatar

            The POINT is there was NO need for the loss of those 2 cities! Something the real brainiac doesn’t seem to comprehend.

          125. 5thDrawer Avatar

            A point, in retrospect. Seeing the results disturbed many on ALL sides.
            Although, ‘some’ happily got into creating more and bigger anyway. 😉
            I think there’s some ‘test zones’ still glowing in Siberia …..

          126. $89733098 Avatar

            ” ‘some’ happily got into creating more and bigger anyway.”

            Or smaller like DU!

            So your claim that they didn’t use nuclear/atomic weapons again is not exactly true.

          127. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Depleted is not going to take out a whole city. Might make some skin itchy. 😉
            I’m just as happy we didn’t accept the stuff the Yanks wanted to install up north. Had to beat them off again. :-)))

          128. $89733098 Avatar

            “Might make some skin itchy”
            Really??? Is that all DU does?

          129. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Gives you time to make out the will.

          130. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Well, really Barabie, that’s the idea behind the ‘financial’ cuts … and now everyone wants the USA to attack instead. IS there any logic??

          131. $89733098 Avatar

            And u still haven’t admitted that that comment was just plain stupid on your behalf.

          132. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            So tell me how Japan was smashed before the atomic bombs then….

          133. $89733098 Avatar

            i already told u. flowers and chocolates.. remember?

          134. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            This is why people just agree with you….

          135. $89733098 Avatar

            ok mate. arguing with you is useless coz u just keep changing the subject and denying facts.
            The best part is where u declare a whole site as untrustworthy coz of one article that u didn’t agree with.
            farqed up has a twin.

          136. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            I’m changing the subject?? I ask you a question and you blabber “flowers and chocolates” because you dont have an answer.

          137. $89733098 Avatar

            “changing the article”???
            excuse me?

            as for the flowers and chocolates, it is called sarcasm!
            If you don’t know how a country can be destroyed without a ground invasion then you r too stupid for me to waste my time on.

          138. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            So you use sarcasm when you dont have an answer? Nice!

            I know countries can get destroyed without a ground invasion, but thats not the case for Japan.

          139. $89733098 Avatar

            but it WAS the case with Japan u fool. whether it was with fighter jets, missiles, bombs etc or with nuclear/atomic weapons. Geez u r seriously not worth arguing with. at least with 5th i get a decent argument, with you it’s childish and not very scholarly.

          140. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Like i said, Japan was never a battlefield. The only casualties its people living there suffered were from the atomic bombs.

          141. $89733098 Avatar

            “The only casualties its people living there suffered were from the atomic bombs”

            OMFG. (g stands for gosh)!!!!!!
            WOWWWWWW
            Just WOW!
            This truly shows how ignorant u r or stupid.

            “The bombing of Tokyo, often referred to as a series of firebombing raids, was conducted as part of the air raids on Japan by the United States Army Air Forces during the Pacific campaigns of World War II. The U.S. mounted a small-scale raid on Tokyo in April 1942. Strategic bombing and urban area bombing began in 1944 after the long-range B-29 Superfortress bomber entered service, first deployed from China and thereafter the Mariana Islands. B-29 raids from those islands began on 17 November 1944 and lasted until 15 August 1945, the day Japan capitulated.[1] The Operation Meetinghouse air raid of 9–10 March 1945 was later estimated to be the single most destructive bombing raid in history.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo

          142. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Ok. Thats it? They couldn’t recover in three years? Key word is small scale. It didnt crush Tokyo. My point is they weren’t near surrendering in 1945. Lets not forgot they dragged the US into ww2 with the Pearl Harbor. Much like Hamas, the attacker loses and gets portrayed the victim by the blind.

          143. $89733098 Avatar

            “The only casualties its people living there suffered were from the atomic bombs”

            “The Operation Meetinghouse air raid of 9–10 March 1945 was later
            estimated to be the single most destructive bombing raid in history.”

            with flowers and chocolates obviously, otherwise how could they have avoided casualties?

            Seriously you r way too stupid for me to waste my time on. I like to debate with honest folks not idiots who don’t know wtf they r babbling about. See the pic? That wasn’t from atomic weapons! That was “operation meetinghouse” air raid which was “estimated to be the single most destructive bombing raid in history.

            Now real stupid will come back with something about hamas or isis. or better yet something about water being found on the moon.

          144. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Then why didnt Japan surrender then? Why did it take two atomic bombs, and not one? BECAUSE JAPAN WAS NOWHERE NEAR SURRENDERING. This actually proves my point even better, showing that they were stubborn and were willing to continue fighting regardless of what the US threw at them. How do you think a ground invasion would’ve played out for 5-6 years?

            Water on the moon http://t.space.com/all/7328-official-water-moon?oswbuild=b0.44&mediaKey=space&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.space.com%2F7328-official-water-moon.html&oswts=1410927102989&width=1024&height=672&size=large&olcts=1410927104709

          145. $89733098 Avatar

            U r a waste of time

          146. $89733098 Avatar

            “Key word is small scale.”

            “estimated to be the single most destructive bombing raid in history.”

            Again, u r an idiot!

          147. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            The link you gave me, Wikipedia said small scale. You’re reffering to another bombing that happend in 1945. Your link was reffering to one that happend in 1942. Who’s the dumb one again?

          148. $89733098 Avatar

            You!

          149. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            From your link

            The first raid on Tokyo was the Doolittle Raid of 18 April 1942, when sixteen B-25 Mitchells were launched from USS Hornet to attack targets including Yokohama and Tokyo and then fly on to airfields in China. The raid was the retaliation against the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. The raid did little damage to Japan’s war capability but was a significant propaganda victory for the United States.[3] Launched prematurely, none of the attacking aircraft reached the designated airfields, either crashing or ditching. One aircraft landed in the neutral Soviet Union where the crew was interned, but then smuggled over the border into Iran on 11 May 1943. Two crews were captured by the Japanese in occupied China and later killed in violation of the 1929 Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War.[4][5]

          150. $89733098 Avatar

            Seriously u need help

          151. 5thDrawer Avatar

            (wow … did I just get an ‘up’ there??)

          152. 5thDrawer Avatar

            And the citizens were happy …. up to this point. Or, at least the point of a tidal wave invasion …. we wait for the ground under Iran to shake at the right spot.

          153. $89733098 Avatar

            ” People just agree with you to avoid getting in arguments like this.”

            Lol even tho i can’t stand the old broom i will give him this, he doesn’t just agree for the sake of argument. In fact the old broom would’ve have tried denying reality just like u r right now.

          154. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            You still havent explained how Japan was smashed before the US came in with atomic bombs… Not denying reality just saying for how it is.

          155. $89733098 Avatar

            They were smashed with flowers and chocolates being dropped from spitfires etc. geez u r not very bright.

          156. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            The US hadn’t even fought in Japan throughout the whole war…!

            Also from your site http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m109378&hd=&size=1&l=e

          157. $89733098 Avatar

            LOLLLLLLLLLL
            HAHAHAHAFUCKINGHAHAHAHAHAHA
            WTF does that have to do with the yanks obliterating two cities in Japan????
            Stick to the subject! ADHD much?

          158. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            You’re going on about how Japan was smashed and the bombs weren’t needed yet you cant tell me how Japan was smashed before the bombs. Stupidity much?

          159. $89733098 Avatar

            lol so u post an article about obama and isis when we r talking about JAPAN! Geez stupidity much describes u perfectly.

          160. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            If you could read im showing you an article from the same site your article was from. Wouldn’t trust it.

          161. $89733098 Avatar

            lol ok farqed up

          162. 5thDrawer Avatar

            So was my 1950’s ‘Manual’ on surviving an Atomic Attack. 😉

          163. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Saw one of those once. Apparently school children had to crouch under their desks and they would be 100% safe

          164. 5thDrawer Avatar

            We practised. Yes. Didn’t you see my posting of the more important notes??
            It was great for the ‘Fear Factor’ …. until we figured out it was rubbish.
            Then we figured it would be better to go watch ‘The Last Show’.

          165. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Haven’t been to active on the site much 🙁

          166. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Wow same article from a site that calls for an anarchist society. That really shows that your links are bs.

          167. $89733098 Avatar

            lol u r truly an idiot!
            uruknet gets articles from everywhere including your beloved jewish media.

          168. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            They not only get articles from anarchist sites but now Jewish sites?! 😮 lord help you. You’re basically telling me it has no validity.

          169. $89733098 Avatar

            yes farqed up.. we know only your jewish media can be trusted.

          170. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Wow LBC and MTV Lebanon are Jewish now?

          171. $89733098 Avatar

            Stop the lies, PLEASE!
            you have paraphrased israeli military personnel numerous times.

          172. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Name once. I’ve paraphrased Hamas officials plenty of time to mock them though 🙂

          173. $89733098 Avatar

            Look at u jumping from one topic to another coz u don’t have answers.

          174. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            Same topic bud.

          175. $89733098 Avatar

            lol yes hamas is the same topic as hiroshima and nagasaki. How could i not have known that. geez

          176. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Basically she’s anti-nuclear. A good thing. She just wants to note the one country who got to try it out, for another reason.

          177. $89733098 Avatar

            so we r clear. I am anti nuclear, anti war, anti capitalist, anti borders, anti stupidity, anti liars and DEF anti hypocrisy.

          178. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Good. Now talk to ME folks too.

          179. $89733098 Avatar

            ummm HELLO! I have been talking to those people but most of the time it’s like talking to a brick wall.

          180. Hind Abyad Avatar

            To avoid getting in “argument” with the insult spam queen..don’t engage, simple.

          181. The real lebanese Avatar
            The real lebanese

            The article doesnt even say anything about wether or not lives would’ve been saved or lost. It just says MacArthur thought the war couldve also been won through a ground invasion.

          182. I’m curious, why are you using language that is designed to sound like it is me that is posting under guest?
            That’s extremely deceptive of you.
            Only cook or daft mare could and would do that.

          183. MekensehParty Avatar
            MekensehParty

            Don’t waste your time, al-Manar and Al-Jazeera have done an excellent job brainwashing the Arab youth. Thankfully all they achieved is radicalizing these kids towards jihad against each other. Let them fight it over between each other they’re doing a great job developing the insults dictionary.

          184. 5thDrawer Avatar

            ‘Poetic’ language to a fault. :-))

          185. That’s exactly why Australia follows ORDERS.

          186. 5thDrawer Avatar

            Yah .. after the Yanks ‘Sunk The Navy’ and all the Zeros fell short, the Military Minds of the Japanese were a little rattled. They were looking for ‘a deal’. But America wanted to finish what they had lined up – just to make a definite demonstration. We can admit that it Got the attention of the Emperor who had been largely mis-led by his army.
            I think, also told China and some others to keep off the irradiated land.
            Everything is, as always, open to interpretation, of course, and anyone who had fought the Japanese didn’t really mind the ‘demo’.
            Some were still entrenched on remote islands many years later, wondering where their supply ships had gone …..
            The Japanese mind of the time needed the Emperor ( a godly position) to be the one to say ‘Hands Up’ … which allowed the 25-yr occupation some smooth sailing, and a shift in the ancient customs somewhat.

          187. 5thDrawer Avatar

            I’d agree with the part that says ‘one’ was enough.
            But I also agree it saved MANY more deaths. And the whole idea WAS to STOP the damn war, wasn’t it? If you enjoy the fighting, join your local ‘fight club’.
            (unless you’re promoting the more modern ‘death club’.)

          188. BULLSHIT propaganda. The Japanese emperor had already agreed to surrender. Go educate yourself

          189. Hind Abyad Avatar

            “Bush Was Set on Path to War, British Memo Says”
            http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/27/international/europe/27memo.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

            “Transcript- The Downing Street Memo”
            Sunday Times of London Thursday, June 16, 2005; 10:00 AM
            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/06/14/DI2005061401261.html

          190. Lol the deceptive slag at it again. Braying then deleting its braying. Your deception has no limits. I spit on the scum that brought you up. Disgusting cheap whore

        2. TheUSequalsTheIS Avatar
          TheUSequalsTheIS

          as much as i hate the IS thats a very good point

        3. Well said. But don’t expect 5th column the senile hypocritical white supremacist to ever bark anything bad about the west.

      3. Igor Chingoski Avatar
        Igor Chingoski

        I am going to refresh Your mind, Immediately after the invasion of Afganistan they locked hundreds of Afghanis and let them die from the heat and asphyxiation, Then they created Guantanamo to take randomly Civilians and Fighters to roast all day under the sun and all night to freeze under the moon, Nice eh? After the Invasion of Irak, They tortured innocent victims with Homosexual soldiers and lesbian officers, added to that the very infamous killing of Iraki Civilians from a U.S. helicopter,
        The Massacre of MI-LAI in Viet Nam they killed Women and Children, In Mexico in 2011 they planted the Swain Flu killing thousands of innocent Civilians, USA always wanted Mexico but without People, They only want the Oil and the Luxury Resorts, They created AL-Qaida to Fight the Soviets in Afghanistan and then they used AL-Qaida to scare people and push them to go along with their voracity for Oil.
        They Radiated in the 30’s their Own people to see the effects before bombing Hiroshima. No 5th You are right the USA is so peachy that Minerva will blush shy.
        YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND A HYPOCRITE SERVILE OF THE AMERICANS YOU SHOULD LIVE WITH SHIT ON YOUR FACE KISSING THEIR ASSHOLE ALL THE TIME.

        ADDED TO ALL THIS ISIS ARE MEMBERS OF SPECIAL USA FORCES TO RALLY THE WORLD TO BOMB SYRIA AND OPEN THE POSSIBILITIES FOR ISRAHELL.

      4. Hind Abyad Avatar

        1-Remember Vietnam, Hiroshima.

        2-ISIS did not exist before the invasion of Iraq.
        (..) It started as a reaction to the attitude of the Left during the 1999 Kosovo war, which was largely accepted on humanitarian grounds and to the rather weak opposition of the peace movement before the 2003 invasion of Iraq: for example, many “pacifists” have accepted the policy of sanctions at the time of the 1991 first Gulf war and even after it, and were favorable to inspections in the run-up to the war, without realizing that this was just a maneuver to prepare the public to accept the war (this became even public knowledge through later leaks, like the Downing Street memos).

        “Ideology of Humanitarian Imperialism”..
        http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/27/the-ideology-of-humanitarian-imperialism/

  8. 5thDrawer Avatar

    Here’s one all the West-Haters will love …. something for everyone these days. :-)))
    http://journal-neo.org/2014/09/17/scottish-independence-and-the-decline-of-the-west/

    Written by a guy who hates ‘Wall-Street’ … a real Brit, I guess … ;-)))

  9. Connected to Russia they could add Iran, Hezbollah, Assad, etc.

    1. Comtessa di Alba Avatar
      Comtessa di Alba

      Hi Malmaquer0..another of the ID juggler

  10. Countess of Alba Avatar
    Countess of Alba

    Idiots – the main threat

  11. What a lie. Russia dont execute their hostages they had like the usa a convention where they subscribed that they wont kill any hostage nit like the americans in iraq or japan ( im japan they killed on a isle all hostages and decapitaded them). What did navy seals do in Vietnam? They killed villags with old people and children. And there is more……

  12. 5thDrawer Avatar

    Careful Scotland … Considering how many in the UN don’t appreciate a good Single Malt.

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      What are you doing in a year old tread for Gods sake?

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Somebody made a comment? I don’t know .. some arguments just go on forever … anyway.

  13. 5thDrawer Avatar

    “virulent, violent, and viciously anti-Western” = ‘No matter how good and peaceful you are, if you are ‘western’ your head is on the block even if you send money.’

  14. Kosovo, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Panama, Brasil, Haiti and many others.
    When you try to point a finger on someone, you should clean that big sh!t in front of your own doors.

    Iraq – war for fabricated reason, true reason: oil. Over 100 000 death innocents, over 3 mil refugees, leaving country for US oil companies and Islamic state warriors
    Libya – invading country (one of main oil producers), supporting terrorists, leaving bombed country for Islamic state fighters
    Syria – supporting terrorists, leaving country for IS
    Kosovo – supporting terrorists, bombing country, leaving for mafia and drugs production.
    and many other crimes

    Russia – “invasion” to region, where is already 60% of Russians and russian base. Without bombing area, without thousands of dead people.

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