Iraq: Thanks Iran, Now Leave

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iraq iranIraqi forces are closing in on the ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) occupied city of Tal Afar (65 kilometers west of Mosul and 150 kilometers east of the Syrian border). The city is the target of most Iraqi airstrikes and more Iraqi artillery units are moving close enough to fire at the city regularly. Iraqi and coalition aircraft and UAVs can be seen over the city constantly, many of them apparently seeking targets for the air strikes and artillery as well as mapping the defenses and location of the defenders. More civilians are risking death (from ISIL gunmen with orders to shoot on sight any such refugees) to get out of the city and are a source of firsthand information on what ISIL is up to in the area.

ISIL has occupied Tal Afar since June 2014 and it was a key transit point for anyone or anything moving to or from Mosul and Syria. Currently about 20,000 civilians, a fifth of the normal population, remain in Tal Afar. Until 2007 Tal Afar was mainly a Turkoman (Turkish) town with large Sunni and Shia Arab minorities. Between 2003 and 2007 al Qaeda terrorized the Sunni Turkomen (for not being Arab), murdered the Shia and used the town as a base for bringing in foreign recruits via Syria. Back then the Shia rulers of Syria (the Assad clan) were willing to tolerate Sunni Islamic terrorists as long as they were just passing through and behaving themselves as they did. Now Tal Afar is even more important to Sunni Islamic terrorists (ISIL) in Iraq because it is the only large urban area they still hold and it still controls the main road from Mosul to Raqqa (the ISIL capital in eastern Syria). The fighting around Tal Afar since 2016 has largely been handled by Iran-backed Shia militia although they were told that only Iraqi army troops would be allowed into Tal Afar itself. That’s why Tal Afar still has several hundred ISIL fighters in it, despite being largely cut off from Mosul and Syria. This isolation is the result of Shia militias spending the last few months shutting down road access between Syria and Mosul. With the main road from Tal Afar to Raqqa now blocked it is more difficult but not impossible to travel between Syria and Tal Afar. With all of Nineveh province free of ISIL the Islamic terrorists will have gone from controlling about 40 percent of Iraq, including Mosul and several smaller cities at its peak in mid-2014 to a few percent three years later. Mosul and Tal Afar are the largest cities in Nineveh province and to the south is Anbar province where nearly thousand or more armed ISIL supporters still operate, most of them near the Syrian and Jordanian borders. Anbar has always been a good source of local recruits for ISIL and a few of them continue fighting. Because of that the Iraqi government relented and allowed some Shia militias to take part in the final assault on the city.

The Mosul Muddle

Mosul is now largely free of ISIL fighters and those that remain now resort to terror attacks. That is facilitated by many still hidden stocks of ISIL weapons and explosives as well as a large amount of cash. Kurdish troops complain that many of the Iraqi soldiers and police guarding access to Mosul will take bribes. The Kurds test this by offering bribes to get someone without ID and in civilian clothes and notes that about a thousand dollars will get you through many checkpoints. A vehicle costs more (about $1,500). It was noted that even guards willing to take a bribe would not do so it if was too obvious that the ones offering it were probably Islamic terrorists. But still, it is a problem.

Journalists in Mosul, especially the foreign ones, are noticing and reporting (often with video) incidents of Iraqi security forces looting, demanding bribes and attacking civilians without apparent reason. A lot of this misbehavior is real, not just being misinterpreted. Cell phone tech has reached the point where it is easy for anyone to take a broadcast quality video with sound and email it around the world. Governments in general don’t like this but it forces Iraqi officials to at least go through the motions of punishing the obviously (via videos) guilty.

This is particularly apt right now because Iraqi leaders are talking about “post-war reforms” and at the top of the list is the popular demand to curb corruption. Mosul needs a lot of that right now since all the government money spent on reconstruction means lots of opportunity for corruption and that generates short and long term problems because a lot of the repairs and new structures will be sub-standard in order to pay for the bribes and theft. While many of the usual offenders see this as a chance to play it straight others see it as a challenge with big financial rewards for those who can pull it off.

Most Iraqis now know there is a connection between corruption and the overall health of the economy, public safety and general welfare. Saddam Hussein and his predecessors were notoriously (and often shamelessly) corrupt and while Iraq is still one of the most corrupt nations on the planet there are some local nations that are living examples of how less corruption means life gets better. Corruption can be measured and one of the more popular examples is the Transparency International Corruption Perception Index where national corruption is measured on a 1 (most corrupt) to 100 (not corrupt) scale. The most corrupt nations (usually North Korea, Somalia or, since 2011, South Sudan) have a rating of under fifteen while of the least corrupt (usually Denmark) is often 90 or higher. The current Iraq score is 17 compared to 13 for Syria, 41 for Turkey, 46 for Saudi Arabia, 48 for Jordan, 28 for Lebanon, 29 for Iran, 66 for the UAE (United Arab Emirates), 64 for Israel, 25 for Afghanistan, 32 for Pakistan, 40 for India, 29 for Russia, 40 for China, 11 for South Sudan, 12 for North Korea, 72 for Japan and 74 for the United States. These rankings demonstrate how a lower corruption score indicates a nation with economic (and many other) troubles. African nations are the most corrupt, followed by Middle Eastern ones. Fixing an existing culture of corruption has proved a most difficult challenge. But the UAE and a few other Middle Eastern nations have demonstrated that it can be done. Making it happen is difficult, but so is retaining the old ways. That means if you want to keep the problems with the Kurds, Sunni versus Shia, the threat from Iran, ineffective police and armed forces plus high unemployment and persistent poverty, then just ignore the corruption. It is now generally recognized that Mosul was lost of ISIL in mid-2014 largely because of corruption in the security forces. Iraqis want change and they have been increasingly open, loud and public about that. Leading the anti-corruption drive have been many Shia religious leaders. These Shia clerics have also noted that Shia run Iran is not doing so well dealing with corruption while the largely Sunni UAE has, even doing better than Israel.

Turning Against Iran

With ISIL no longer a major threat Iraq has surprised Iran (and many others outside the Arab world) by rebuilding relations with Sunni Arab neighbors and telling Iran to back off with any plans it had to dominate Iraqi politics. Senior Shia Arab religious and political leaders have been leaning this way for a long time and Iran thought the war against ISIL was an opportunity to weaken the traditional Shia Arab distrust of Iran. That did not work.

Since 2005, when accurate opinion polls and generally free elections were once again available it became obvious that both in Sunni Arab areas (where there used to be a lot of support for al Qaeda) and Shia areas (where there used to be a lot of support for the kind of religious dictatorship found in Shia Iran) that Iran was seen as the enemy. This was obvious to familiar with Iraqi history. Fear of Indo-European Iran has always been greater than the fact that most Iraqis share their Shia faith with Iranians. Blood is thicker than religion. This is why more there was always so much violence along the ethnic border between Kurds (who are ethnically related to the Iranians) and Arabs, especially in oil rich Kirkuk.

From 2005 on it became increasingly clear that the vast majority of Iraqis, including Kurds and most Shia Arabs, feared increasing Iranian influence. Although most Iraqis are Shia, they are also Arab, and do not want to be ruled by their fellow Shia in Iran. That’s because the Iranians are Indo-European people and have long treated their Arab neighbors with disdain and cruelty. Iraqis could now see this happening regularly in western Iran, where the Iranian Arab minority (about two percent of the population) is constantly being persecuted by the Indo-European Iranians. The Iranian Arabs also get it from the Azeri Turk minority (25 percent of all Iranians). Iraqis have bitter memories of centuries of domination by the Ottoman Turks (who now control only Turkey), whose empire once stretched into North Africa and the Balkans.

One reason Saddam Hussein had some support from all groups in Iraq and from his Arab neighbors was his ability to keep the Iranians out. After Saddam was overthrown in 2003 many Iraqis (and most Arabs) feared that, without a badass like Saddam, there would be no one to motivate Iraqis into blocking Iranian moves to occupy Iraq, or control its rulers. But now the Shia Arab Iraqi leaders (political and religious) appear confident that they can stand up to the Iranian threats. The is one thing all Iraqis can unite behind and apparently one of many reasons why Iraq is openly demanding that Iran back off while just as publically establishing economic, political and military links with Saudi Arabia and other Sunni Arab states in the region to oppose Iranian plans for expansion and domination of Arabia.

The new alignment means more technical and economic aid from the Sunni Arab states to the south and more vigorous efforts by those Sunni Arab rulers to ensure their Shia Arab minorities (or, in the case of Bahrain, majority) are treated well and that there is little support for Sunni Arab Iraqis. The Saudi leaders had always tried to maintain good relationships with their Shia minority but that had become more difficult as radical Sunni Islam (as in al Qaeda and ISIL) became more popular. Now that form of religious zeal has become less popular in Arabia, at least for a while. But that’s another problem that is less pressing hat the immediate ones posed by Iran.

August 17, 2017: The Iran backed Shia militias are accused of continuing to recruit, train and sent into combat teenagers 17 and under. Iraq has agreed not to do that but there is evidence that the militias have deliberately done so. Several hundred such “child soldiers” were apparently recruited this year. This makes it easier for Iraq to cut Iranian support for these militias.

August 16, 2017: In the northwest (Tal Afar) troops ambushed eight ISIL men trying to sneak out of the city at night. One of the dead was the ISIL mayor of Tal Afar and another was the police chief. Elsewhere in the area Kurdish forces report that in the last four days they have captured 30 ISIL men near Tal Afar. Most of these ISIL men were attempting to hide among nearly a thousand civilians who fled Tal Afar towards Kurdish territory in the north. Most of the several thousand civilians fleeing Tal Afar head east, towards Mosul and this Kurdish report motivated the Iraqi Arab troops to screen the refugees more carefully.

In the northeast (Erbil province) Iranian artillery fired several dozen shells at rural areas on the Iraqi side of the border. It is believed the Iranians were (for the second month in a row) firing on suspected Iranian Kurdish separatist group based in camps in Kurdish controlled northern Iraq. There were no casualties this time but the July shelling left three dead.

General Mohammad Hossein Baqeri, commander of the Iranian armed forces, visited Turkey for the first time, met with senior Turkish political and military leaders and that was a bad sign for Iraq. Most of what was discussed was not disclosed, but Baqeri and Turkish leader Recep Erdogan met together for a press conference and agreed that the Iraqi Kurds holding a referendum on Kurdish independence was a bad thing. Iraqi Arabs agree with that.

August 15, 2017: In the northwest, 90 kilometers south of Mosul in Salahuddin province an Iraqi air strike killed an ISIL leader who had been in charge of finding wives for ISIL fighters. Further south, west if Ramadi in Anbar province, ISIL executed five of its own leaders for trying to desert.

August 14, 2017: Saudi Arabia announced it will open the Arar border crossing permanently after it had been closed since 1990. Arar is a major crossing between the two countries and the crossing was only opened once a year to allow Iraqis going on the annual Haj pilgrimage to Mecca. Those pilgrims were carefully screened coming and going.

August 13, 2017: In northern Iraq two American soldiers were killed and five wounded when a 155mm artillery shell they were using went off prematurely. Such incidents are rare but they do still happen. The army is investigating the incident to see if it could have been prevented. The American troops were part of an artillery unit providing support for Iraqi troops.

August 11, 2017: In the south, Majid Al Nasrawi, the former governor of Basra Province illegally crossed the border into Iran. Nasrawi had resigned as governor the day before after being accused of corruption and told not to leave the country. Although Nasrawi insisted he was innocent he took advantage of corrupt security officials to get out of the country. This confirmed to Iraqi Shia Arabs that Iran was not a friend.

August 10, 2017: In the northwest ISIL was reported searching Tal Afar for the son of an ISIL leader who had killed his father and fled.

August 8, 2017: In the northwest troops outside Mosul encountered a group of ISIL men who were killed apparently defending a large hidden workshop for building explosive vests and rockets. Hundreds of these devices were found in the workshop, most of them apparently ready for use. Over the last month Iraqi troops have found six similar workshops hidden in areas ISIL had apparently retreated from.

August 4, 2017: Senior Iraqi Shia cleric Moqtada al Sadr called on the Iraqi government to dismantle the Iran backed Shia militias and incorporate loyal (to Iraq) members into the armed forces. For the moment the Iraqi government is allowing Iraqi Shia militias to take part in the battle for Tal Afar but generally agrees with Sadr. However Haidar al Abadi, the Iraqi prime minister, wants to dismantle these Iran backed Shia Arab militias with more care and take more time doing it.

August 2, 2017: UN observers report that 241 civilians were killed during July. This only included those Iraqis in government controlled areas. It will be a while before it is possible to get an accurate idea of how many Iraqis died in the battle for Mosul and other ISIL controlled areas. The military has been reluctant to disclose its loss summaries but the Kurdish intelligence analysts estimate (largely from interviews with refugees from the city) that about 10,000 civilians a month died during the last four months of fighting in Mosul. That was a combination of ISIL executions and murders plus the tremendous firepower the Iraqi forces used to keep their own losses down. While the use of human shields had some impact on non-Iraqi (especially American) air strikes, Iraqi air or artillery attacks generally ignored the use of human shields. This was done because all the fighting was being done by Iraqi, mostly those belonging to the elite army and police special operations units. This troops felt they had to keep their losses down any way they could.

Meanwhile the impact of terror attacks in government controlled has been steadily falling, indicating ISIL was weakening throughout the country. After rising in March civilian (and police) deaths declined 42 percent in April to 317. About half those casualties were in or near Mosul (Nineveh province). Baghdad suffered 17 percent of the dead while Salahaddin province (between Baghdad and Mosul) and western Iraq (Anbar province) accounted for most of the remaining fatalities. The pattern was similar in March when 543 civilians and five police were killed by Islamic terrorist related activities compared to 392 civilians and 26 police in February and 382 civilians and 21 police in January. The civilian deaths were up 42 percent in March compared to February and this is largely because of the fighting in and around Mosul. Two-thirds (67 percent) of the civilian deaths were in or near Mosul (Nineveh province). Baghdad suffered 15 percent of the dead while Salahaddin province (between Baghdad and Mosul) and western Iraq (Anbar province) accounted for most of the remaining 18 percent. Most of the deaths in Nineveh province were related to the effort to drive ISIL out of Mosul. Baghdad was usually where most civilian deaths took place and it still a major target for suicide bombing efforts, usually in Shia neighborhoods. Not surprisingly there have been fewer ISIL bombings in Baghdad and other usual targets because ISIL was in bad shape. Prisoners and deserters report low morale and panic among many of the less resolute ISIL members.

In July the government finally allowed the security forces commanders to discuss losses among the 100,000 soldiers, commandos (both army and police) involved in the eight months of fighting to regain control of Mosul. The military reported that it had killed about 25,000 ISIL members during the fighting. This included nearly 500 suicide bombers. The offensive destroyed 1,247 vehicles fitted with explosives to be used for suicide bomb attacks or roadside bombs. These vehicles were often spotted by aerial surveillance and destroyed by smart bombs or missiles. In addition another 1,500 ISIL vehicles were destroyed, mostly from the air or with artillery fire. The attackers shot down at least 130 ISIL UAVs (all of them commercial models). After the July 9th declaration of victory troops carefully searched for tunnels (many of them revealed by civilians or captured ISIL members or supporters), often using robots. This is something the Iraqis learned from the Americans. It is good for soldier morale and scares any hostile folk down there. That effort will continue for months.

The government is still reluctant to release full data on casualties among the security forces. The U.S. did confirm that the elite Iraqi Counter Terrorism Force of about 20,000 personnel suffered about 40 percent casualties (dead, wounded and missing) during the nine months they were fighting in Mosul. The Americans had this data because the U.S. offered to assist in training replacements and they had to know who and how many had to be replaced. On the plus side Iraqi civilian deaths from Islamic terrorist attacks are way down in June and that is largely attributed to the collapse of ISIL in Iraq. But there are still ISIL supporters in Iraq, and elsewhere, and it’s only a matter of time before the local ISIL gets organized and starts killing again. They are already doing that and the Iraqi government is under a lot of pressure to stop the ISIL attasks.

July 31, 2017: Over the last week Iraqi aircraft have dropped millions of leaflets in western Anbar province warning civilians that a major offensive against the remaining ISIL forces there was about to begin. Over a thousand ISIL gunmen (it could be a few thousand) control portions of western Anbar, mostly near a few key (on main roads) border crossings with Syria. There are also three towns (Annah, Qaim and Rawa) that ISIL still holds (and has led since 2014). These ISIL controlled areas still have about a quarter million civilians. Anbar comprises about a third of Iraq in terms of territory but less than ten percent of the population. Anbar is largely desert with most of the people living in the Euphrates River valley in the eastern part of Anbar. Many of those civilians are kin to pro-government Sunni tribal militias that will be part of the offensive. Once Tal Afar is taken the Iraqi armed forces will move as many troops as it can to Anbar.

July 30, 2017: American intel analysts report that attacks against key ISIL personnel in the last few months appear to have crippled the ISIL media (especially Internet distribution) network. The ISIL Amaq News Agency appears to be out of business because of these losses. ISIL is currently killing any of these civilians they catch trying to escape to government territory.

July 29, 2017: Outside Mosul Iraqi troops encountered and killed three ISIL leaders who were trying to get away via the Tigris River. Some apparently have made but most have not.

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310 responses to “Iraq: Thanks Iran, Now Leave”

  1. No such thing as “free lunch”. Iran did not intervene in Iran (a former enemy) out of love. It did so to further its influence in the region. Influence that is backed by Russian; and China. Today’s reality in the Middle East (for as long as Russian and Chine see eye to eye and remain allies) will bring balance to world hegemony in taking a big chunk of it from the hands of the British Empire.

    1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
      Ilami-Gilaki

      Iranians are gonna love the Arabs, the day Arabs love other Arabs. I promise.

      1. No clue what your comment has to do with what I wrote but I suspect that you needed to vent out some Phalange-SLA fumes.

        1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
          Ilami-Gilaki

          Ya harram you never get me. You said that Iran didn’t intervene in Iraq out of love and then I was like: Iranians are gonna love Arabs when Arabs love their Arab brothers.

          1. Considering your history of rethorics about Arabs, you’ll forgive me for jumping to such conclusion. Thanks for clarifying.

          2. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            That is exactly my point. I’m justifiably harsh when it comes to Arabs bcos they don’t even care about their fellow Arabs. The other day there were even clashes among Iraqi Christians…. As if the are not facing enough threats already.

          3. Iran too doesn’t care about its fellow Iranians. Look how Iran treats the minorities specially the Arab people pf Ahwaz and the Baha’is

          4. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Yeah it is so sad…. Maybe the Arabs should be allowed to relocate to your country, Israel.

          5. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad
          6. I don’t know why you, cunningly, try to put words in my mouth. I made no personal opinion, statement or observation about the Arabs for you to advance that it “is exactly your point”.

            The rest of your comment is your Zionist facet speaking: Arabs kill each other. Facet that omits England’s devastating century-long imperial policy in Iraq:

            • in arbitrarily craving up the land that encompassed three rivals groups (Sunni, Shia, Kurds) in the 1910s.

            • in killing 9,000 when Sunnis and Shia united against Britain in the 1920s.

            • in maintaining its politicical/economical influence despite Iraq’s independence in 1932.

            • in establishing the IPC (Iraqi Petroleum Comoany) to loot Iraq’s oil.

            • in helping Saddam’s Ba’ath Party take power in 1963.

            • in backing Saddam against Iran in the 1980s by proving traditional and biological/chemical weapons.

            • in funding Iraq’s secret chemical weapons factory (code named: Falluja 2) in 1985.

            • in imposing sanctions in the 1990s – which caused the death of 1.7M people (500K of which were children) – after Saddam nationalized Iraq’s oil industry.

            • in lying about WMDs in 2003 to illegally invade and destroy Iraq – which led to the rise of ISIS.

          7. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Far from a century long imperial policy. Any British influence began in 1918 after the fall of the Ottoman Empire and was gone by 1958, arguable sooner. Let’s keep the math correct.

          8. Rather, it began in 1912 with the Conference in Cairo to carve the ME. Britain gave Prince Abdullah, Jordan and his brother Faisal, a piece of the desert that became Iraq.

            I believe you’re playing with semantics (“policy”) to try to make a point that doesn’t exist. England’s influence continues throughout today in Iraq and the region.

            Following your play on semantics, the same can be said about Yemen – that it is KSA – when it’s entirely about the British Empire’s hegemony in the Gulf.

          9. Rudy1947 Avatar

            If you wish to add 6 years that’s fine, doesn’t add up to 100.

            Semantics? I was referring to math.

          10. 2017 – 1912 = 105

          11. Rudy1947 Avatar

            1956.

          12. In 2003 the Guardian reported that a chemical plant, which the United States said was a key component in Iraq’s chemical warfare arsenal, was secretly built by Britain in 1985 behind the backs of the Americans. Documents show British ministers knew at the time that the $14 million dollar British taxpayer funded plant, called Falluja 2, was likely to be used for mustard and nerve gas production.

            1985 – 1912 = 73

            Tony Blair recently admitted to CNN that the 2003 invasion of Iraq played a part in the rise of the Islamic State militant group, and apologized for some mistakes in planning the war.

            2003 – 1912 = 91

            I can continue until it reaches the 100 you’ve been dwelling on to cover up your ignorance.

          13. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I see. So Iraq under Iraq rule chose to associate with other countries to build their own country with the assistance of foreign “powers” or contractors and now that’s considered “imperialism”. Nice, not great, but nice. Squeeze the sponge some more and make new math more exciting.

          14. You confirm what I said: you pick on a word to invalidate the entire comment.

            I can edit to: “the Anglo and then the Anglo-Americans’ imperialist policy/influence” if it will make you feel better.

          15. Rudy1947 Avatar

            zzzzzzz

          16. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Useless..humm..and useless.

          17. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Who are you???? You upvoted Rudy’s post????

          18. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            I noticed that too, and as far as I’m aware she isn’t fond of Rudy. Changing meds maybe?

          19. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Must have been the Eclipse.

          20. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            She must be confused.

          21. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Are you on drugs? It was a mistake.
            You did up there
            ‘Rudy1947 Omega • 2 days ago
            1956.
            3 •Reply•Share ›’

          22. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I upvoted their comments bcos you did.

          23. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Ilami-Gilaki – Rudy1947
            Who are you???? You upvoted Rudy’s post????
            7:11 a.m., Tuesday Aug. 22 | Other comments by Ilami-Gilaki

          24. Rudy1947 Avatar

            ???

          25. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            HaHa.. who started WW1, WW2? Here comes WW3, idiots last War.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8&t=31s

          26. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Are you related to Ben?

          27. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            1961 is diabolically actual seams as it never changed.

          28. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I was referring to you saying that Iran didn’t intervene outta love based on my anti-Arab comments.

          29. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Arab means nothing.
            A Lebanese Arab is not a Saudi Arab.
            Very racist. Zionists call Palestinians ‘Arabs’ no identity..like if you say Jews! What Jews?

          30. FaLIEstinians are 1964 KGB Orabians

          31. Hannibal Avatar

            and blah is the blah of the blah blah blah… You get my gist?

          32. Gist is FaLIEstinians are political correct blah of the blah blah blah Orabians… Are you get it?

          33. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            And you upvoted Danny’s post.

          34. Hannibal Avatar

            Incredible answer… You rock lady. :*

          35. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            😉

        1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
          Ilami-Gilaki

          Iranian Jews are loyal while you upvoted Danny’s post. That’s very loyal of you.

          1. Niemals Avatar

            Is it time for Britain to practice tolerance with Jews like Iran – or is Iranian tolerance with the Jews just a game for the galleries?

            “Earlier this year the Community Security Trust, another organisation which monitors anti-Semitism, recorded 1,309 incidents of anti-Jewish hate last year, compared with 960 in 2015 – a rise of 36%.

            They included 107 violent assaults and 65 incidents of damage and desecration to Jewish property, as well as more than 1,000 incidents of abusive behaviour in person and on social media.

            Responding to the survey, Communities Secretary Sajid Javid said: “Our Hate Crime Action Plan sets out how we will tackle these crimes, boost reporting to the police and Community Security Trust and help victims rebuild their lives.

            “We are also providing an extra £13.4m to protect Jewish faith schools and synagogues.” (news.sky.com)

          2. Niemals Avatar

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/191b9a86f25c8f85cc5ff4b5f783e5307a06a93741e571eaeeac5e64924b1c22.jpg Oh my gosh! – no verbal attacks against Jews, AbyadHind must be sick…. ????????‍♀️

            According to “Rouhani’s Jew” (Siamak Morsadegh) “the No. 1 Jew” in Iran – Iran is safer for Jews than France.
            Could it be because Arabs have difficulty in practicing attacks against Jews in Iran – Arabs are detected immediately ????????.

          3. What a load of propagandist crap. Jews have co-lived with Christians and Muslims for centuries before the British cult of Zionism infected the Middle East.

          4. Irans mullahs supresse other religions to prevent their spread. And others like Bahia are persicuted because of relious belief.
            Not to mention it is against the law to change your religion. Mullahs take that shiite way to serious.
            https://www.bic.org/focus-areas/situation-iranian-bahais/current-situation

          5. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            It’s none of your business who is suppressed by whom in Iran.

          6. Iran is on the world stage. It is everyone’s business. Do you not care how your fellow country men are treated? To be objective, Iran is an Islamic state/republic, and they are progressive in many areas. But real change moves at a snails pace and the central government is stuck in a loop trying to preserve the glory days of Khomenei.
            I was impressed with the Green revolution and the sheer numbers that came out to oppose the government, it was astonishing to watch. Many paid with their life, but it was not in vain, change will come. Iran’s leaders will have to evolve or die out when the majority of tech savvy and motivated youth inherit the land.

          7. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            I don’t see Danny here? So childish

          8. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            You did on the other thread.

      2. Iranians have been emulating Arabs since Arabs blessed you with Islam and and destroyed the existing culure. Cyrus the Great is turning in his grave.

        1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
          Ilami-Gilaki

          Eslam was founded by Salman Parsi.

  2. Rudy1947 Avatar

    The tentacles are not long enough in the cartoon. Iran’s tentacles extend further into Syria and Lebanon.

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      Zionist tentacles

      1. Rudy1947 Avatar

        Was that a comedic skit?

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          Keeping you entertained…

          1. Rudy1947 Avatar

            It was funny. Not worth anything more.

          2. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            Go to bed…

          3. Hannibal Avatar

            She is so very ugly… I pity her husband LOL

        2. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          Yolu are paid to comment on line easy money, entertainment; change the subjects, deny and divert
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nW1A6r3jgo

          1. Hannibal Avatar

            Fight fire with fire… Their lies are at an end.

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Fire with Fire.. hatta yrouhu la Jhannam.

          3. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Are you paid to comment?

          4. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            0 tolerance for parasites

  3. I can’t imagine Iran leaving Iraq on its own , for the same reason I can’t imagine it leaving Lebanon.
    Just like Hezbollah’s Nasrallah feels he owns Lebanon , his boss in Iraq Qassem Suleimani feels the same about iraq

    1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
      Ilami-Gilaki

      Civilizations rise and fall, rise and fall, rise and fall…. Only Iran remains.

  4. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
    Ilami-Gilaki

    Iraq belongs to Iran.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      You are wrong… The whole world belongs to Iran. Why stop at that? Let’s all be Shiites and wear turbins.

      1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
        Ilami-Gilaki

        I know.

  5. Arzna take out your Hijab…… you are next……..

    1. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      The Jackal is back another Zionist troll.
      Niemals aka-Matrix-Guest loves them all.

      1. Hannibal Avatar

        Niemals is a schizophrenic person.

        1. Schizophrenia would be a perfect diagnosis. He posted/posts under several usernames while altering the personality associated with each.

      2. That’s if Jack is not Niemals aka O’Matrix, O’Yeah, Matrix, AnnoDazumal, etc.

    2. Hind Abyad Avatar
      Hind Abyad

      Blocked assap no questions asked..Oow of course Niemals aka-Matrix-Guest likes

      1. I see now Arzna and Hind Abyad are the same person………

        1. You better see an eye specialist urgently , since you seem to have double vision problems. I am concerned you may hit someone if you don’t deal with this issue quickly

          1. You better see a Psychiatrist urgently….. since you seem to have 2 personalities……
            I mention you in the comments and your other personality Hind answers…..
            Take you pills……

          2. Hannibal Avatar

            LOL… Jackoff is a conspiracy theorist. Oh wait a minute aren’t all Israelis conspiracy theorists as well?

        2. Niemals Avatar

          Was it Omega that helped you with the text patterns analyze?

          1. I Ignore this Holocaust denier racist Jew Hater omega, it’s Ya Libnan problem that they host this creature.

          2. Hannibal Avatar

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e57943a44e19651bb9f7c70bba783641ed16ae97cdd3311a359ebaabca226f4.jpg It’s YaLibnan problem they allow racist pigs like you in here. Go back trolling on some zionazi site and leave us Lebanese be. We are busy cleaning the crappy cousins of yours your ilk brought in to Syria.

          3. kannibal —- You are not Lebanese…. you escaped, so mind the business where you are coward..
            BTW Omega declares he is a Holocaust denier…..

          4. Hannibal Avatar

            Well Holocaust did happen… It hit the entire world. That is why it is called “World War”. Too bad the zionists usurped it like they usurp everything else. You cannot deny that the Germans killed the Jews of Europe. You cannot deny that the Russians wiped each others in a Bolshevist revolution masterminded by the zionist Russians. You cannot deny the Armenian holocaust at the hands of the Turks. You cannot deny the Maronite Christian genocide perpetrated by the Turks and your Arab cousins. You cannot deny the current ongoing holocaust against the Palestinians by the state of Israel… and so on… So yes Omega is wrong at denying ANY holocaust. Shame on him.
            Signed: The Phoenician Lebanese Roman Byzantine Aramaic Hannibal from the Kingdom of Aram.

          5. Some correcto mundo: while I do deny the Joollywood portrayal of WW2 and the Holocaust, I don’t the deportation, theft of personal property (especially gold, ask the BIS) and the mass-killing of Jews.

            Ask Jackie to show you forensic evidence of the so-called gas chambers and war documents attesting of the death of Jews (their non-existence is confirmed) and see how he throws a manic-depressive tantrum calling you “Jew hater”.

          6. Correcto mundo: while I do deny the Joollywood portrayal of WW2 and the Holocaust, I don’t the deportation, theft of personal property (especially gold, ask the BIS) and the mass-killing of Jews. The “six million” death toll is fallacy that came up over a hundred times in the press, decades before WW2.

            Ask Jackie to show you forensic evidence of the so-called gas chambers and war documents attesting of the death of Jews (their non-existence is confirmed) and see how he throws a manic-depressive tantrum calling you “Jew hater”.

            p.s.: Your depiction of the two world wars, the Boslehvik Revolution, the Third Reich, the Armenian genocide, etc omits most of the facts.

          7. Omega writes to you – “see how he throws a manic-depressive tantrum calling you “Jew hater”.”

            The coward try’s to escape from his “Jew Hater” comments.
            so he writes that I called you a “Jew Hater”
            Well ….. where did I call you a “Jew Hater”
            Another of Omega pathetic attempts to clean himself……

          8. You already said that, wuss.

            Yes: the Holocaust as depicted by Joollywood is a sham.

          9. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/302077ce738e82e9b4b5217152db4aa02eaf8ebf5f810fe79062db24c02f9bca.jpg

            Read his comment, he writes that there was no Holocaust.

            Ya Libnan must be proud to host a Holocaust denier.

          10. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/38d3a2b0c48eecd6f3c6c6588f5ce18d36a53f34093d6222a07ee8133da4a04c.jpg

            Jew Hater Omega promotes Jew Hate propaganda that ” Jewish March toward the death of MANKIND”/

            Ya Libnan must be very proud to host this Racist Jew Hater Omega.

          11. You took that from Russia Insider I believe. What does it have to do with YaLibnan?

          12. See Omega’s comments “You took that from Russia Insider I believe. What does it have to do with YaLibnan?”

            Well he admits he is a Jew Hater in Russia Insider…….but he is not in Ya Libnan????
            That’s Logic….. been exposed as a Jew Hater in Another site……. makes him clean in this site….. meaning he can be a Jew Hater in Russia Insider…… but cannot afford to be A Jew Hater in Ya Libnan…….
            Omega should know….. A Jew Hater is a Jew Hater….. no matter where he writes comments.

          13. Keep working it boy, you can do it.

            My stance is clear: anti-Zionism/Zionists, not Judaism or real Jews.

          14. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            “Jew Hater”? haha believe it or not Jews are collectively a dot in the universe of most people in the world. No one would know about the existence of Jews had they not moved from Europe to Western Asia.

          15. Rudy1947 Avatar

            And no one would have heard of the US until the Europeans moved. Same for Australia.

          16. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Except for the fact that those places had been populated 1000s of yrs before the Europeans arrived. Besides, there is a hypothesis that the ancient Egyptians went to Americas and taught them how to build their structures.

            Btw I also heard that the native people thought the Europeans were ugly when they first encountered.

          17. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Places were Jews moved to were also populated. Btw it also hypothesized that glass was created by aliens using nuclear weapons.

          18. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Go back home.

          19. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I am. USA.

          20. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            That’s is not your home.

          21. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Born and raised. 70 years minus military service in Germany.

          22. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            That doesn’t mean you belong there. It belongs to the native people.

          23. Rudy1947 Avatar

            LOL, and how many native people have been removed or assimilated throughout the world in our history?

          24. Niemals Avatar

            I can not figure out the roots of Ilami-Gilaki.

          25. Niemals Avatar

            Do you think that Hannibal or Donald Duck Trump belong there?

          26. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I don’t know if you have noticed but I repeatedly encourage Oriental Christians to move back to Western Asia bcos most of them are rich and educated.

          27. Niemals Avatar

            One more time – try harder this time to answer my question; https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a12f998a38bf245d84734300bb5441ed131bd108016e59e3f195bf5f9e5ba6ac.jpg Do you think that Hannibal or Donald Duck Trump belong there?
            My question have nothing to do with your encouraging Oriental Christians to move back to Western Asia.

          28. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Go teach in Germania not here, Hittler

          29. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            My answer was clear.

          30. Niemals Avatar

            ????????

          31. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ????????

          32. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Again?

          33. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Haida akbar hmar ma tefham?

          34. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You deleted your post below.. for what.. did you ever get an IQ test?

            “Niemals Ilami-Gilaki • 20 hours ago

            One more time – try harder this time to answer my question; https://uploads.disquscdn.c… Do you think that Hannibal or Donald Duck Trump belong there?

            My question have nothing to do with your encouraging Oriental Christians to move back to Western Asia.

            One more time – try harder this time to answer my question; https://uploads.disquscdn.c… Do you think that Hannibal or Donald Duck Trump belong there?

            My question have nothing to do with your encouraging Oriental Christians to move back to Western Asia.”

          35. Hannibal Avatar

            I can tell you about your roots though: Queerdom

          36. Niemals Avatar

            After Ilami-Gilaki told you 2 days ago “It’s not your home.”
            I became curious if it was a specific offense against you, or something else in his words.

            A day ago I put out this question; “Do you think that Hannibal or Donald Duck Trump belong there?”
            Ilami-Gilak answer had nothing to do with my question.

            Still after my last request to answer my question, Ilami-Gilaki claimed in his answer; “My answer was clear.”

            I need to revise my opinion about the stateless Ilami-Gilaki.

          37. Hannibal Avatar

            Blah Blah Blah Blah… Go away you queer….

          38. Rudy1947 Avatar

            No offense was taken and just considered his statement somewhat silly. I’ve been told to get lost many times. Something about an American on a Lebanese media site I guess.

          39. Niemals Avatar

            Indeed a silly statement.

          40. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You claim you blocked me did you answer silly boring Niemals aka-Matrix?

          41. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Blablabla

          42. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            2-Its critics have stated it acts as an agent of the Israeli government with a “stranglehold” on the United States Congress with its power and influence.[8] The group has been accused of being strongly allied with the Likud party of Israel, and the Republican Party in the US, but an AIPAC spokesman has called this a “malicious mischaracterization.”[6] The Washington Post described the perceived differences between AIPAC and J Street: “While both groups call themselves bipartisan, AIPAC has won support from an overwhelming majority of Republican Jews, while J Street is presenting itself as an alternative for Democrats who have grown uncomfortable with both Netanyahu’s policies and the conservatives’ flocking to AIPAC.”[9]

          43. Rudy1947 Avatar

            “Was”. But AIPAC is one of 12000 Federal lobbies, not the most powerful.

          44. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Trolltrolltroll
            1-“From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
            The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC /ˈeɪpæk/ AY-pak) is a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the Congress and Executive Branch of the United States. The current President of AIPAC is Lillian Pinkus.[3]

            One of several pro-Israel lobbying organizations in the United States,[4] AIPAC states that it has more than 100,000 members,[5] seventeen regional offices, and “a vast pool of donors.”[6] Congressman Brad Sherman of California has called AIPAC “the single most important organization in promoting the U.S.-Israel alliance.”[7] In addition, the organization has been called one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the United States.[6] The group does not raise funds for political candidates itself, but its members raise money for candidates through PACs AIPAC helped establish and by other means.[6]

          45. Rudy1947 Avatar

            How special. Now you have approximately 11,999 to go.

          46. Niemals Avatar

            Ya Libnan sets rules for the readers, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a963d38689f062c901ee4b81c166b79d79e9da64ffebd0036ccc280eb32b5da8.jpg but does not live up to these parameters ????

          47. Well you know could be that they endorse personas like Omega……who knows maybe they share the same agenda…

          48. Freedom of expression (done respectfully) does not infrigues YaLibnan’s note to readers.

            Insulting people the way vs, Rainbow Sponge and others do, does.

          49. Hannibal Avatar

            They insult because they are so very frustrated that the lies they worked so hard to spread are at an end…
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4uwyctYy0s

          50. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Dont you worry about YabLibnan, comic.

          51. Who cares, Omega is an Iranian stooge. He is entitled to his hate and ignorance. It defines who he is and what he represents. Puppet of Assad/Iran.
            And highly entertaining and very predictable.

          52. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You live in tha twilight zone

          53. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Israeli stooge.

          54. Niemals Avatar

            I have taken one step further, blocked Omega’s (as well as Hannibal & HebAlba) comments.

            In practice, my e-mail account is free of message from this trio. ????

          55. Yet, you can read my comments.

            Once again: as long as you convince yourself.

          56. Hannibal Avatar

            What a loss… NOT. Do not let the door hit you on the way out.

          57. He can pretend to block and not to be able to read. He posts under other usernames and is only fooling himself.

          58. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            I believe in free speech.

          59. Niemals Avatar

            Blocking Omega’s (as well as Hannibal & HebAlba) comments does not stop free speech.

            I don’t like the trio’s ideology.

          60. Don’t block people, it cuts the entertainment value if you do that.

          61. Niemals Avatar

            I do not intend to contribute to the trio’s entertainment.

          62. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            You’re the biggest entertainment

          63. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Liar
            “Dogs bark the caravan passes.
            Matrix aka niemals

          64. The Holocaust as depicted by Jewllywood is a sham. The mass-murder of Jews during WW2 did happen. So did the mass-killing of non-Jews.

          65. Hannibal Avatar

            LOL Jewllywood LOL it should be zionywood.

          66. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66136dab35c33a66c780dc0dcb79616f5bf80fa7a76c87ac77e6b40d3e5c4467.jpg

            Your Omega changes his version….. afraid of been labeled as a Holocaust denier….
            But he has been exposed, in another site.

            And you Hypocrite….. just a few comments ago you mentioned “So yes Omega is wrong at denying ANY holocaust. Shame on him”
            What Happened…. Arab mentality to lick each other as* and then stab him in the back…..

          67. I am neither afraid nor have I changed my version. My past and present comment attest so: it was a Holohaox.

            Hannibal disagreeing with me (or me with him) does not mean licking back ass followed by back stabbing – it’s simply disagreeing. What you want to achieve is turning people on each other. Something your British masters taught your filthy ilk well.

            The ideologies, mythologies, and geopolitical strategies of the State of Israel, down to the minutest details, are the handiwork of a handful of Britons. In particular there was Orde Wingate, a repre- sentative of the Amery and Rothschild interests in the 1930s and a top British intelligence officer in Palestine. Moshe Dayan recently said of Wingate: “I remember Orde Wingate. And I salute him. He taught me and many another Israeli soldier everything we knew.”

            Part: The British Spook who built the ‘Army of Zion’
            http://wlym.com/archive/campaigner/7812.pdf

          68. Rudy1947 Avatar

            The Brits had influence in many areas of the ME as did the French during the thirties and forties. Didn’t we go over an Iraqi scenario recently? Wingate’s help was greatly appreciated even though it cost Wingate his job. One countryman helping another countryman is NOT rare.

          69. We went over nothing with the Iraqi scenario. You stepped in, said nothing, wasted your and my time and, as usual, stepped out with a “zzzzz”. Go ahead and negate, the discussion is there.

            This isn’t any different. You’re saying nothing and are twisting reality.

            “The ideologies, mythologies, and geopolitical strategies of the State of Israel, down to the minutest details, are the handiwork of a handful of Britons.” Is not helping a country. It’s setting to foundation of a puppet-state.

          70. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Oh yes we did and the zzzz’s described the your last response perfectly.

            As far as your reference to the Brits being the catalyst for the Israeli State, others including the US were also involved. Accepting good advice and strategies are acceptable to many people, the Jews of the thirties got better advice.

          71. I don’t know if you’re purposely lying or too much of a cretin (forgive me for the usage of such word but in the light of your obvious condition (cretinism), it is accurate) to realize that “we did” nothing. I am going to asssume the later and briefly reiterate what happened:

            • I responded to Illakmi-Gillaki with Britain’s century-long imperial policy in Iraq.

            • You stepped in and argue that such influence began 1918 and ended in 1958.

            • When I advanced that you were playing on words, you insisted it was about the math.

            • I contradicted your claim with Britain’s funding of Iraq’s chemical weapon factory (funded with British taxpayers money) in 1985, the 1990s sanctions that left 1.7M death in Iraq and the illegal invasion of 2003. All of which did equate to a 100 year period.

            • You then diverted the topic with the following: So Iraq under Iraq rule chose to associate with other countries to build their own country with the assistance of foreign “powers” or contractors and now that’s considered “imperialism”. The 1990s sanctions and the illegal invasion of 2003 are not what any sane person would consider “building”.

            • You ended with your usual “zzzz” as you were cornered and had nothing left to say.

            The content I presented are hard pressed historical facts. You contradicted absolutely nothing. As ever, you made noise, said nothing and left making more noise.

            As far Israel is concerned, I suppose that cretinism kicked in again – the US is completely irrelevant. You, again, try to make a point that doesn’t exist like you did with Iraq in using the same exact dumb argument: support.

            Israel was created by Britain and is its puppet-state (read: it serves the oligarchies who founded it). From the same article:

            London manipulates Zionism internally by a combina- tion of means. Inside Israel, Tavistockian methods are used to split the parties and factions of that tiny nation into the most exotic hodge-podge of special sectarian concoctions. By playing on this Hobbesian frenzy, using the leverage of “outside” controlling support conduited through international Zionist organizations, London can ordinarily set Israel onto any policy course London desires, and can wreck any Israeli leader who tries to adopt a policy of national interest contrary to London’s whims.

            That’s not what I call a free and democratic country. And hence why Rabin was killed in 1995 for taking serious steps at making peace with the Palestinians.

            I can understand how this may come to a surprise to you – that Israel is Britain’s prostitute – (in the same way a child finds out Santa Claus doesn’t exist) but it remains very much reality (in the same way Santa Claus doesn’t exist).

          72. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Do you type all this yourself or do you have a an administrative assistant that takes dictation?

          73. By myself (minus the copied-pasted italicized parapraph) – took less than three minutes. You should see the content I present on scientific and financial sites – it pales next to the bs I waste my time with in here and similar sites. Additionally, I lead a research lab as my primary job, frequently consult overseas for energy companies and teach at a major university in Lebanon once a week (at my cost). I used to volunteer quite a bit in the community but it’s been impossible lately. Add to the lot a most beautiful wife, three more beautiful children, family, friends, hobbies, outdoor activities and luckily not much need for “zzzz”.

            That being said, I believe it’s time for me to apply the cost of opportunity more efficiently.

          74. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Over sharing. Not interested in your bio.

          75. Almost forgot: you’re anti-social.

          76. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Just not interested in personal lives on a forum. I deal with real social amenities.

          77. Barely shared anything but alright.

            As far as “dealing” with real social amenities, I have yet to see an impartial and analytical statement coming from you. You mostly repeat the mainstream narrative you are accustomed to without applying that slightest critical thinking. Not judging but stating.

          78. Rudy1947 Avatar

            And you repeat media that agrees with your bias. You can load a “bibliography” of non MSM and you have a load of crap.

          79. Let’s take the recent “discussion” on Iraq: what was “non-MSM”?

          80. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Yes you do..

          81. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Yup, thanx.

          82. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ?%*

          83. Rudy1947 Avatar

            I know you would be confused.

          84. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ?%*+$ means paid troll

          85. Rudy1947 Avatar

            zzzzzzzz

          86. Hannibal Avatar

            LOL

          87. Hannibal Avatar

            Nope Rudy he believes in his cause while you troll just to justify your existence.

          88. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Thank you handfullofbull. I will give your diagnosis all the consideration it deserves.

          89. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It took you 2-3 year of monologues with a Zionist who’s not here for dialogues only diversion & propaganda…zzzzzzz..

          90. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Diversion and propaganda? The two of you are experts. In Omega’s case quantity does not equal quality.

          91. Each and every skgle point I presented is historical. You contradicted nothing and made noise as usual.

          92. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Each point is an opinion, mine differs.

          93. You just confirmed your ignorance. I rephrase the content from the following article:

            From Churchill to Blair: How British Leaders Have Destroyed Iraq for Over a Century
            https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/08/from-churchill-to-blair-how-british-leaders-have-destroyed-iraq-for-over-a-century/

          94. Rudy1947 Avatar

            And how Saddam destroyed Iraq?

          95. Serious or trolling?

            Saddam destroying Iraq is news to me. Last time I checked, it’s the illegal Western invasion that destroyed it; which then gave room for IS to grow.

          96. Rudy1947 Avatar

            LOL. Riiiiiight. First you’ve heard.

          97. Yes, how did Saddam destroy Iraq? Do tell. This is an honest question.

          98. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Where is Saddam now? How did Iraq fare after his ambitions were foiled?

          99. How does that answer my question?

            Iraq had no WMDs. The US knew but invaded anyway.

            Seriously; what are you talking about?

          100. Rudy1947 Avatar

            How Saddam fared.

          101. That’s how he destroyed Iraq?

          102. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Pretty much.

          103. Okkkkkaaaayyyyy.

            You basically have no clue what you’re taking about; again.

            Good night.

          104. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Ta ta.

          105. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Taratata

          106. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Having 8 years ot war with his neighbor is one example and committing a genocide against the Kurds is another.

          107. You seem to forget the Anglo-Americans fully backed him up.

          108. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Why did he accept the support of the West? Bcos he enjoyed waging wars, I guess.

          109. Wasn’t he on the West’s payroll?

          110. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Couldn’t he refuse to be? Or did he enjoy being?

          111. Like all Western puppet, he enjoyed it and then was back stabbed.

          112. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            So focus your attention to the puppets, they are the problem and only problem. Had they not been in place, the West would have no say in Western Asia. This whole different and better strategy.

          113. Not sure if I should laugh or shake my head in disdain. Do you seriously believe that if Saddam Hussein had rejected the Anglo-Americans’ support, that would would have packed their bags and left? Don’t be ridiculous. They would have found another thick-mustached macho man.

            Look at the case of your imaginary country of origin (Iran). The very same happened with the Mossadegh, Pahlavi and Khomeini succession – minus the mustache in the first two cases but a thick beard at the end – each and every single one of them were enthroned and dethroned by the Anglo-Americans. Which begs the question: who really runs Iran today? Are they real adversary or just laying the ground for what Kissinger/Schlesinger called the doctrine of “limited nuclear warfare” and “theatre nuclear war” at the behest of London’s Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA) and the London Inter- national Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS).. Otherwise interpreted as:the state of Israel was, test-tube-like, to become the first live model of the effects of a regional nuclear war.?

            Considering the US’ reluctance at cooperating with Iran’s nuclear deal, I let you ponder.

          114. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I know, honey. Nothing you said is against my statement. There are too many collaborators: ISIS + puppets. Maybe people in Western Asia should learn in school how not to screw over one’s home country bocs people clearly don’t know.

            If Iran is too a puppet, I don’t get why you would support Hezzy then?

          115. You and vs have a strange way of talking to the male gender: honey, sharmuta, etc. Anyway, that is not the point of my comment.

            My point is that you should work on your pathetic sophistry.

            When, 12 days ago, I presented facts to Danny about the Anglo-Americans’ long and proven history of meddling around the world, you responded:

            These are undeniable facts. Even Danny can’t deny them

            You now go back to your true Zionist vermin self.

          116. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            Maybe he thought you’re a female? Or he’s gay, whatever.

            Btw, who even uses the term ‘Anglo-Americans’? You just made that up, probably in one of your lectures.

          117. I am not interested in his (read: your) sexual orientation.

            Anglo-American is an adjective to refer/designate both British and the US. It’s neither made up nor taught by me.

          118. Why are you responding to a comment addressed to him? Alternating or Freudian slip?

            I am not interested in his (read: your) sexual orientation.

            Anglo-American is an adjective to refer/designate both British and the US. It’s neither made up nor taught by me.

          119. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            I replied to a comment on a public forum, wasn’t gate crashing one of your lectures.

          120. Let me know when you have something to say.

          121. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Americans originated from Britain,

          122. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            Not all

          123. Niemals Avatar

            The one uses the term ‘Anglo-Americans’, is definitely not referring to ‘Latino-Americans’ ???????? …..

          124. info sharmuta

          125. You and vs have a strange way of talking to the male gender: honey, sharm0uta, etc. Anyway, that is not the point of my comment.

            My point is that you should work on your pathetic sophistry.

            When, 12 days ago, I presented facts to Danny about the Anglo-Americans’ long and proven history of meddling around the world, you responded:

            These are undeniable facts. Even Danny can’t deny them

            You now go back to your true Zionist vermin self.

            I made no statement about Iran.

          126. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Those are facts that can’t be denied. The US did all those things and will continue to do so. All you and the rest of the Arabs do is to complain and whine about it while others try to stand up for their countries. Since you went back in time and found an old post, this is what I told you 2 months ago:

            “Russia, China, India, the Philippines, North Korea and others successfully repelled/keep repelling Western hegemony.
            Iran and few South American countries somewhat successfully did the same.
            Arabs and Moslems totally failed!”

            Honestly, don’t you think that the US would love to invade China and Russia RIGHT now? But they don’t bcos they know that the Chinese and the Russians actually would defend their respective countries.
            On the countrary, when the US decides to invade an Arab country, other Arab countries assist the invasion. This is the problem of the Arabs that needs to be addressed if that part of the world is to change for the better.

          127. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            You’re not an arab

          128. • The discussion had nothing to do with Arabs – it was strictly about about Iraq. You, being the squinted one-eyed SLA-Phalange troll you are, take every chance you get at bashing the entire Middle East while pretending to be Iranian. Iraq was getting back on its feet and made it clear that they wanted to rebuild a mutually beneficial relationship with the US in offering exclusive commercial/industrial contracts to the US: the purchase of one million American vehicles per year for ten years, all telecom/pharma/etc contracts to American companies, etc. The Anglo-Americans had other plans. Iraq was destroyed by the West, not Saddam or the Iraqis. On a related note, the invasion of Iraq was also motivated by Saddam wanting to drop the US petro-dollar in favor of the Euro. Dumb move. He should have partnered with Iran, Russia and China before thinking to do so. The same applies to Qaddafi – another one who wanted to drop the petrodollar and who thougth was untoucheable

            The mainstream narrative with the Middle East – repeated by those who are bent over to the Anglo-Americans and Israel (you for instance) is that the “Arabs kill each others and then blame everyone but themselves”. What most forget is that the Middle East was mostly a vast bordless territory with different clans living on it (Sunni, Shia, Kurds, Druze, Christians, etc). When the Brits stepped foot in it to randomly carve it, they created problems that they did not exist before. The case of Iraq is examplary. Also, the Brits have always shafted everyone in the Middle East – promise one thing, do another. They are cold blooded, experienced colonialists who only serve the oligarchies they represent. See another example with the Ottoman Empire and Palestine:

            The Arab cause was severely handicapped because it had no voice at the heart of the Secret Elite and no champion in Parliament. Financial and industrial powers wanted control of the resources under the sands and cared little for the indigenous population. In fact the Arabs were mere pawns in a larger game of international chess. Even at the lesser levels of power, they had no influential advocate. They were disadvantaged at every turn. T E Lawrence, who fought side by side with Faisal and the Husseins, knew that he was merely part of a conspiracy.https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/the-balfour-declaration-9-ignoring-the-facts/

            That being said, I agree that Iran, Russia (minus British Bolshevism), China (minus British Maoism) and some others have resisted similar faith due to being old or ancient nationa unities. If only Iran had reclaimed most of Iraq. When Babylon was playing with trigonometry almost four thousands years ago, the white man was playing his siblings’ dirty balls. Another crucial factor in repelling the Anglo-Americans is for the targeted country to have tight control on what’s going on internally. If you look at Iran, Russia, the Phillipines, China and the similar others, the governments applies often apply, what can be considered by the West, draconian measures on the people (question of keeping them in check). All of which is used by the West against the targeted countries. The Anglo-Americans’ “color revolutions” are precisely aimed at disturbing that order: everything goes, do what you want, rebel, revolt against everyone and everything including your government. I side with order.

            • I don’t think the Anglo-Americans would love to invade Russia and China, I know so. The series of of post-9/11 events (Iraq, Arab Spring, Syria, etc) in the ME are all aligned for that: get to Iran, then Russia and ultimately, China. You might want to familiarize yourself with Mackinder’s Heartland Theory:

            British policy is a policy of geopolitics, and this is a longstanding policy. In 1919, Halford Mackinder wrote a paper entitled “The Geographical Pivot of History.” What he wrote there, in summary, is as follows: Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland. Who rules the Heartland commands the World Island. Who rules the World Island commands the World. Russia is the pivot area, the heartland. Surrounding it is an area which is called the Inner Crescent, which today would be called the Arc of Crisis, as defined by another geopolitician, Bernard Lewis, who was born in Britain but later became an American citizen. That’s the policy that we’ve been carrying out. Who rules East Europe? Think about the move eastward by NATO to the very borders of Russia. Think about the policy of regime change in the entire Arc of Crisis area surrounding Russia.

            http://larouchepub.com/graphics/2017/4433-lpac_webcast-pic6-world_island-map-lg.jpg

            The British geopolitical view of the world as described by Halford Mackinder. This is the policy that was implemented under Zbigniew Brzezinski during the Carter Administration. It’s continuing today, with the regime change policies in Libya, and in Egypt, before it was reversed by el-Sisi against Morsi. We see it in Iraq beginning in 2003; we see it today in the attempt in Syria. Before that, we saw it in Afghanistan, and that’s still a crisis today. We see it in Ukraine, today. This is the geopolitical policy of the British, which led to World War II by the way, because this was the policy of Hitler. The Mackinder policy was picked up by Haushofer, who was instrumental in defining Hitler’s policy of marching East to Russia—the Soviet Union at that time. So this is the geopolitical policy which is operative today.

            • The US (who’s economy is in the hands of England) invading Canada (part of the a British Commonwealth)? Not a chance. If the looting of Canada’s ressources happen, it will be done like in Brazil: privatization.

            • I would argue that puppet leaders, the fifth column and cliques assist the US with their invasions, conflicts and wars. Most of the people in respective countries want to live in peace.

          129. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I’m not bent over for any one. I actually agree with most of you posts but the point at which the two of us differ is how to approach the problem. You go on criticizing the West endlessly, while I point out the many reasons that the US has been successful in destoying the region. What are we to achieve by criticizing the West? Do you think the US is gonna stop bombing the c*ap outta the world, just bcos we tell them not to? The US is a superpower and doesn’t give a sh!t what the rest of us think. So either the Western Asians work together and back each others up or we are gonna see one country after the other turning into dust. In the past, I had long been in favor of cooperation across sectarian, ethnic, and cultural lines in the region. I know many others from different sects including Shiites, Christians, and Druze who would agree on this. Unfortunately the Sunnis for the most part don’t consider the non-Sunnis as their peers. Hence they are none of my concerns. When was the last time that the Sunnis expressed their sorrow for the bombings of Shiites across Iraq? When did any Sunni ever expressed their sorrow for the Oriental Christians who are about to get extinct? Not many Sunnis are around on Yalibnan, but on other sites, there are numerous Turks whom I almost never heard supporting any country but Turkey. Not even Palestine was their priority. To be fair a lot of them actually care about the Syrians, but that is probably due to the fact that Assad is an Alawite.

          130. To clarify my point of view: I look at history the way I do science. While you see me criticize the West endlessly, I observe the present and reverse-engineer it. It’s simply to undersand how we got where we are – for as long as we don’t know and understand the cause, the very same result will recoccur. I grant you that some experiments are not worth dwelling on – Sunnis for instance. I also agree that most Sunnis don’t see non-Sunnis are their peers. The fact that I am interested in understanding the cause of the problem in the ME doesn’t mean I sympathize with them.

            The US bombs the Middle East because it’s a military might. I’d like to see them try the same with Russia and/or china. Notice how they only attack people who can’t fight back – nothing but a bunch of cowards who’s balls are in the hands of oligarchs across the Atlantic.

            The British Empire (and its military arm, the USA) has had a devastating effect on most of the world. Their modus operandi was/is resumed at subjugating the inhabitants of the lands they target (with violence and terror), loot the ressources and then blame the mayhem they caused on all sorts of made-up nonsense.
            The world needs (and has) new powers who believe and most importantly apply win-win situations – like Russia and China.

            p.s. Our “friend” Rainbow Sponge also converses quick a bit with Turks on another site.

          131. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Are you suggesting that I’m Rainbow Sponge?
            I don’t think you realize that you and I are actually on the same side. Instead of trying to bust me as some kind of troll, you should start with your compatriots such as Danny, Arzna, MerkshenParty, Master09, Leborigin or whatever they call themselves. Even the dear Hannibal isn’t fully in agreement with you concerning basic matters such as Hezzy. First and foremost you should try to bring those people to your side, instead of wasting your time on trolls. Good luck on that one.

          132. Niemals Avatar

            Omega downgraded you to some kind of troll – Good luck on that one.

            Abyad Hind apparently annoyed some high-ranking Zionists, now they hack her Twitter account…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4d2fd8690d1cc6b708da3c08364c6bb332b5529bd201334bff5ff0e4f3a1940.jpg

          133. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            I don’t need luck cuz I’m done here.

          134. Niemals Avatar

            I should have pointed out that the “Good luck on that one.????” was relevant with your pointing out, “… to your side, instead of wasting your time on trolls. Good luck on that one.”

            Omega downgrade everyone that isn’t playing his ‘ tune’ of going on criticizing the West endlessly.

          135. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            No i don’t think so, i said i know you.

          136. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Lonely?

          137. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            ??

          138. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            The US is run by bigger Zionist powers than the President of America..
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTiHkPWuxqA&feature=youtu.be

          139. That’s smokes and mirrors to divert the attention from the real rulers: oligarchies in Europe.

          140. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Busybody types for both

          141. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Shuddup.

          142. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            wahaha

          143. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Only pan-Arabists like Hind and yourself would say such things.

          144. I am realist. Iraq was destroyed by the West’s illegal invasion. It was no where near where it is today prior to that.

            One tiny example: there wasn’t a single suicide bombing before 2003. There were/are thousands ever since that killed so far, 12000 people.

          145. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            Wikipedia: In January 2004, Human Rights Watch stated: “Having devoted extensive time and effort to documenting [Saddam’s] atrocities, we estimate that in the last twenty-five years of Ba’th Party rule the Iraqi government murdered or ‘disappeared’ some quarter of a million Iraqis, if not more.”
            Oh and a million Iranians killed after 8 years of war.

            But no suicide bombings. Lmao.

          146. Where do you read me negate Saddam’s crimes – fully backed by the Anglo-Americans?

          147. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            Omega Rudy1947 • 17 hours ago

            “Saddam destroying Iraq is news to me. Last time I checked, it’s the illegal Western invasion that destroyed it; which then gave room for IS to grow.”

          148. I suspected you had reading comprehension problems. You confirmed it.

            I don’t remember Saddam bombing the hell of Iraq that led to its complete destruction.

            p.s.: Since you’re at it, don’t forget the Anglo-American sanctions that ended up killing 1.7M people (among which were 500K children).

          149. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            Did the so-called “Anglo-Americans” kill all those Iraqi Kurds? Or was that just collateral damage by uncle Saddam?

          150. Quit playing dumb; or do but work on your cunningness. There was/is nothing “so-called” about the Anglo-Americans. They who and why we’re clear.

            A chemical plant which the US says is a key component in Iraq’s chemical warfare arsenal was secretly built by Britain in 1985 behind the backs of the Americans, the Guardian can disclose.
            Documents show British ministers knew at the time that the £14m plant, called Falluja 2, was likely to be used for mustard and nerve gas production.

            Britain’s dirty secret
            https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/mar/06/uk.iraq

          151. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            You are an apologist. It’s common among Western Asians as no one wants to take responsibility.

          152. The Zionist-(Phalange) in you has spoken again.

          153. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Are you sure you are in a position to call anyone anything? What do you call a person who defends Saddam?

          154. Where do you see me defend him? It’s about historical accuracy.

          155. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Saddam did not destroy Iraq

          156. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Where is Saddam now?

          157. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Paid troll.

          158. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Money is not much use to Saddam now.

          159. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Parasites always want to have the last word that’s how stupid they are

          160. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Is that why ramble on?

          161. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
            Ilami-Gilaki

            Are you a pan-Arabist? Only pan-Arabists would say such things. I guess you think the Kurdish genocide didn’t take place and that he did a good job invading Iran.

          162. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Your article has an interesting gap from 1958 to 2003. Brief mention of nationalizing oil in 1972 with a description of a new overly wealthy Iraq and British support for Iraq against Iran. I was off by 2 years.

          163. I am afraid the “gap” is in your cranium. From the article:

            Ample new evidence shows that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he was part of a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi leader Abd al-Karim Qassem.

            British and US intelligence helped Saddam’s Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963.

            During the 1980s, the United States and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, providing Iraq with weapons, funding, intelligence, and even biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction.

            the Guardian reported that a chemical plant, which the United States said was a key component in Iraq’s chemical warfare arsenal, was secretly built by Britain in 1985 behind the backs of the Americans. Documents show British ministers knew at the time that the $14 million dollar British taxpayer funded plant, called Falluja 2, was likely to be used for mustard and nerve gas production.

            The Guardian article:

            Britain’s dirty secret
            https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/mar/06/uk.iraq

            During the 1990’s, Britain supported severe economic sanctions against Iraq because of Saddam’s increasing resource nationalism. The United Nations estimated that 1.7 million Iraqis died as a result of the sanctions. Five hundred thousand of these victims were children.

            Tony Blair recently admitted to CNN that the 2003 invasion of Iraq played a part in the rise of the Islamic State militant group, and apologized for some mistakes in planning the war.

            See summary of Chilcot report: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/iraq-inquiry-key-points-from-the-chilcot-report

          164. Rudy1947 Avatar

            From 1958 on Iraq was master of their own destiny. Any negotiation with other countries was their right of self determination. any cooperation with other countries was between Iraq and those other countries. Iraq can’t blame their failures on someone else.

          165. I don’t need to tell you what they say about opinions.

          166. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Opinions? What did Iraq do under Iraqi rule?

          167. Correct, all you did is express your opinion. You have not contradicted any of th historical facts I presented.

          168. Rudy1947 Avatar

            And you haven’t contradicted mine.

          169. I did several times; with facts. Read the thread. Over and out.

          170. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Not a chance.

          171. Nothing to do with chance. All with facts.

            When the US invaded Iraq, it violated the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions and almost every principle of international law and order.

          172. Rudy1947 Avatar

            And what did Saddam violate?

          173. Another lamentable, Tavistockian diversion.

          174. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Really. Afraid to answer?

          175. You continue your lamentable Tavistockian diversion.

          176. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            It’s 3:00am go to bed!!

          177. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            It differs from reality

          178. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Whatever you say haha

          179. Rudy1947 Avatar

            Okay.

          180. Heh, can’t disagree. Time to move on.

          181. Hannibal Avatar

            His habit of divide and conquer did not work well for Jack.

          182. Hannibal Avatar

            If I disagree with him (or you for that matter) I do not want to be his enemy. You see the world as black and white and I see shades of grey. After arguing with you about certain topics I am convinced now that you have a hearing problem. Despite the fact of Arabization attempts to the Levant many words of our common Levantine language and culture is unique to the area. Many of our commonly used words are Phoenician/Aramaic. Also the slang we use is not comprehensible to anyone but the Lebanese. It is almost cryptic and not Arabic. Say what you will but we Lebanese know that Lebanon is NOT an Arab country. Lebanon is an amalgam of cultures with its Phoenician/Aramaic/Canaanite being the MOST dominant. So if you want to label Lebanon or myself as Arab that is your right but know this: You will always be a foreigner in the Land of Palestine because you do not belong there. Your as Jewish as I am Arab.

          183. Jewllywood or Joollywood has a better ring to it. 😉

          184. You should study further. Hitler and others in power did in fact have a particular agenda to depose of the jews, among other groups that also died in mass, and that is a fact. Germans blamed loosing WW1 on the jews also, which is a clue for your studies. You can find your own info if you care to really study history. Your version of history only fits the Iranian agenda. Was the amount of jews not enough for you? Apparently not. But you can not remove the real history no matter how much Iran pays you to spread disinformation.
            The Nazi, sounded much like the present day Iranians and their puppets with all the jew hate they peddle daily. While most countries (including Iran’s so called allies) have full relations with Israel, including most muslim countries. Iran continues to hang on to its 37 years of failed policy to simply rant and chant with little substance, while the world passes them by.

            Iran is the ultimate pariah state, in league with other ultimate losers like NK and dearest Assad.

          185. Each and every single time, you start a response in relation to the discussion, then shift to your propaganda. You should work on your cunningness.

            I have studied both world wars quite a bit. Who are the “others in power”? You started on the right foot as I agree with that part: most of the western powers colluded with, either overt or covert, the Third Reich. Suggesting that each did so to kill Jews is conjectural without evidence to back it up.

            You lost me with the rest of your comment. There again, the objective of your comment and your presence here is to demonize Iran (and some others) ad nauseam. Only a complete dumb of a troll would find a way to associate Iran with either world wars.

            If you want to know the who and why of WW1, I recommend you read Doherty and Macgregor’s “Hidden History, The Secret Origins of the First World War”. It’s probably the best, archived-based, book written on the topic. The also have an excellent blog:

            https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/2017/05/23/america-1917-1-he-kept-us-out-of-war/

            Simply put, it was instigated by the British ruling class in collusion with American oligarchs to destroy industrious Germany. On a directly related note, the secretive Sykes-Picot plan to reform the ME and end Germany’s hegemony in the region with their railroad to Baghdad was not coincidental.

            WW2 was also instigated by the same ruling class in Britain with American and German oligarchies (including the Jewish Elite) to have Germany and the Soviet Union destroy each other (making more room for Britain’s quest to world hegemony) and create the necessary hostile environment against the Jews to have them migrate to Palestine (a late 1800s/early 1900s British plan) – something traditional migration would have never achived.

            Jews and non-Jews were indeed mass-murdered. It’s the “6 million” (which occurred 140 times in the press before WW2) number (and gas chambers) that is fallacy. That being said, no Jews, no non-Jews, nobody should have died in wars orchestrated by oligarchs who seek to continue enriching themselves.

            While you chase a ghost (Iran), you completely ignore Britain’s role in financing and supporting Hitler and Nazism. For instance:

            • Britain financed Hitler with £6M in gold, six months before the war.

            • Neville Chamberlain (relative of Houston Chamberlain who inspired/indoctrinated Hitler and Goebbels to exterminate Jews) prevented Hitler’s generals from attacking his quarters when he was readying to invade Czechoslovakia.

            I’d go on but I’m not here to educate you.

          186. Niemals Avatar

            Will not be astonished if this Holocaust denier never visited any of the KZ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52127b44db3475ce1738b8c5222e8130f3d4c5297f797efd0438269ba16fba89.png KZ (Concentration camp) in the time of Nationalsozialismus.

            I wouldn’t be surprise if Omega is claiming that the Appellplatz (place of appeal), on the morning and in the evening the counting process (appeal) of the prisoners took place was orchestrated by Hollywood….
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9cfdf18ca890a3ed148bae869c28a6a9f2733f2cf1b385edb3c02134c6511666.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3674715c43949c3606fed990b0bdb9a05c1d0d8b140faf08077c4d7a7df6c80.jpg Prisoners KZ Sachsenhausen 1938

            You will perhaps understand why I detest this “Omega”.

          187. I thought you had blocked me and thus couldn’t see what I write?

            What did I tell you? -> As long as you convince yourself.

          188. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            Nobody bothers with you inepcia.. so come 2 Guests

  6. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
    Rainbow Sponge

    Get out, right now,
    It’s the end of you and me
    It’s too late, and I can’t wait for you to be gone, cause I know…
    About her, and I wonder, how I bought all the lies…
    You said that you would treat me right but you was just a waste of time

      1. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
        Rainbow Sponge

        götüne koyarim

        1. Hind Abyad Avatar
          Hind Abyad

          YaLibnan

          “Rainbow Sponge – Hind Abyad • 3 hours ago
          götüne koyarim”

          Literally, i’ll stick it up your pussy in Turkish.

          1. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
            Rainbow Sponge

            Yuck, you made it more graphic than it should. It just means up yours.

          2. Hind Abyad Avatar
            Hind Abyad

            “götüne koyarim” is for females

  7. Hind Abyad Avatar
    Hind Abyad

    TRUMP AND AMERICAN HISTORY HAVE BEEN ASSASSINATED

    “When Trump was elected I wrote that it was unlikely that he would be successful in accomplishing the three objectives for which he was elected—peace with Russia, the return home of off shored US jobs, and effective limits on non-white immigration—because these objectives conflicted with the interests of those more powerful than the president.

    https://southfront.org/paul-craig-roberts-trump-american-history-assassinated/

    1. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
      Rainbow Sponge

      Is he your pimp?

      1. Hannibal Avatar

        Behave or else…

          1. Hannibal Avatar

            Ugly AND filthy…

    1. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
      Rainbow Sponge

      Time for your evening pills.

      1. Niemals Avatar

        No pills will help this serpent (the fake christian), Hind Abyad is a lost case.

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          The only serpent I see is you Niemals… hiding in Germany, a zionist troll in a nazi cover.

    1. Niemals Avatar

      You should seen Hind Abyad‏ @AbyadHind tweets the last 9 Std. ……

      1. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
        Rainbow Sponge

        Only 2 people are awake tweeting at 3:00am Washington DC/Toronto time: Hind Abyad and Donald Trump.

        1. Ilami-Gilaki Avatar
          Ilami-Gilaki

          looooool… In hind’s defence, Western Asians don’t sleep that much actually.

      2. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Obsessed stalker didn’t you block me?

        Niemals Jack • 3 days ago
        I have taken one step further, blocked Omega’s (as well as Hannibal & HebAlba) comments.
        In practice, my e-mail account is free of message from this trio. ????

      3. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Didn’t you say you blocked me; cuckoo’s nest?..;-))))

      4. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Hind Abyad – Niemals • 3 hours ago

        Didn’t you say i was blocked; cuckoo’s nest?..;-))))

      5. Hind Abyad Avatar
        Hind Abyad

        Didn’t you say i was blocked; cuckoo’s nest?..;-))))

  8. Rainbow Sponge Avatar
    Rainbow Sponge

    Assad will never rule northern Syria ever again. Euphrates Shield and SDF areas are free.

    https://twitter.com/IbrahimAlAssil/status/900807860623421446

  9. Yalibnan revolution, 293 Comments not Israeli topic

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