Body of former Jerusalem archbishop arrived in Lebanon

Monsignor Hilarion Capucci
Monsignor Hilarion Capucci
BEIRUT, LEBANON — The body of Monsignor Hilarion Capucci, the former Greek Melkite Catholic archbishop in Jerusalem who was exiled to the Vatican for his pro-Palestinian activism, has arrived in Lebanon where he will be buried.

A native of Aleppo, Syria, Capucci died in Rome on Jan. 1 at the age of 94. A funeral is expected Monday.

Appointed in 1965 as the Bishop of Jerusalem, Capucci was convicted in 1976 of using his diplomatic status to smuggle weapons from Beirut to the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Sentenced to 12 years, Capucci was released and deported after two years following intervention by the Vatican.

He tried to return in 2009 aboard a Lebanese aid ship defying Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip. Israeli vessels intercepted the ship and towed it to Israel’s Ashdod port.

NY TIMES

  • Y K

    I bet this repulsive creature is HeBlabla’s kind of Christian! 🙂

    • HebAlba

      He resisted your repulsive fascists Begin-Shamir terrorist gangsters..

      • Rudy1947

        He failed.

        • HebAlba

          Truth never failed
          Lenni Brenner *** Zionist Deals with Nazis and Fascists (part 1)
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gUwqKBfUgs

          • Rudy1947

            Well known, but what happened when in 1939 when Germany unleashed the Wehrmacht?

          • HebAlba

            Zionists ordered US, UK, Canada, Cuba to refuse boats of Jews fleeing the the Nazis.

          • Y K

            You must be pretty happy they died, so where’s the problem? 🙂

          • HebAlba

            These people Zionists sacrificed were returned to Germany and died..how can you talk like this you psychopathic useless parasite

          • Rudy1947

            I guess that’s what happened in 1939.

          • Rascal

            You seeing Zionists in your sleep again? I pitty you and your disturbing level of hate for Jews/Israel.
            I expected you, as a self-professed artist, to have a more enlightened understanding, rather than a bitter hate-monger. I expect your level of hate from the likes of Omega, but even he is more rational at times. I think of you when I see old WW2 Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda pictures, and you are part of the Ministry of Disinformation right next to Goebbels.

          • HebAlba

            I don’t hate Jews illiterate ignorant Ratscal..Not the brightest bulb out of the factory..i.can’t stand your daily rant Hesb-Iran-Shia hatred. Educate yourself before making accusations. Israel is a criminal regime the Zionists are today Nazi.

            The U.S. Government Turned Away Thousands of Jewish Refugees, Fearing That They Were Nazi Spies
            http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousands-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6504fd830e45621ea7580fe50e6e347620eba0a626a25d0e0faea3bc9f27430d.jpg

          • Zev_disqus

            You claimed that Zionists ordered US, UK, Canada, Cuba to refuse boats of Jews fleeing the the Nazis. Your quote here is irrelevant.

          • HebAlba

            Zionists didn’t represent All Jews not at that time (WWI), nor today. .
            Churchill hoped for Jews a National home in Palestine (which it was not his to give).. he sold Palestine to Rothschilde British Petroleum interests.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b34a8ebb75aeddda4585a975f

          • Zev_disqus

            To defend an irrelevant quote, you post another one.
            Isn’t this silly?

          • HebAlba

            I deleted it, don’t like talking to walls.
            “On 13 May 1939, more than 900 Jews fled Germany aboard a luxury cruise liner, the SS St Louis. They hoped to reach Cuba and then travel to the US – but were turned away in Havana and forced to return to Europe, where more than 250 were killed by the Nazis.

            “The US (and other countries in the Western Hemisphere) could have saved thousands of Jews from the Nazis. They didn’t. At one point, the US literally turned away a ship of 900 German Jews. Shortly afterward, it rejected a proposal to allow 20,000 Jewish children to come to the US for safety.”

            “It was 1939 and 907 Jewish refugees aboard the German transatlantic liner St. Louis were seeking sanctuary from Nazi Germany. Canada refused to take them in and the ship sailed back to Europe, where 254 would later die in concentration camps.” etc.. e Worl Zionist mouvement’s Gurion was Brilliant..

          • Zev_disqus

            I know the story. I’m not saying your charges don’t make some sense, Zionist leaders certainly wanted escaping Jews to go to Palestine and nowhere else. But you haven’t proven that those leaders made a concerted effort to *prevent* them from going anywhere else.

          • HebAlba

            “While European Jews were hostage to the Nazis, Zionist leaders in America deliberately provoked and enraged Hitler. They began in 1933 by initiating a worldwide boycott of Nazi goods.”
            Rabbi Shonfeld says the Nazis chose Zionist activists to run the “Judenrats” and to be Jewish police or Kapos. “The Nazis found in these ‘elders’ what they hoped for, loyal and obedient servants who because of their lust for money and power, led the masses to their destruction.” The Zionists were often intellectuals who were often “more cruel than the Nazis” and kept the trains’ final destination a secret. In contrast to secular Zionists, Shonfeld says Orthodox Jewish Rabbis refused to collaborate and tended their beleaguered flocks to the end.

            Rabbi Shonfeld cites numerous instances where Zionists sabotaged attempts to organize resistance, ransom and relief. They undermined an effort by Vladimir Jabotinsky to arm Jews before the war. They stopped a program by American orthodox Jews to send food parcels to the ghettos (where child mortality was 60%) saying it violated the boycott. They thwarted a British parliamentary initiative to send refugees to Mauritius, demanding they go to Palestine instead. They blocked a similar initiative in the US Congress. At the same time, they rescued young Zionists. Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist Chief and later first President of Israel said: “Every nation has its dead in its fight for its homeland. The suffering under Hitler are our dead.” He said they “were moral and economic dust in a cruel world.”

          • Zev_disqus

            The countries you mentioned wouldn’t have accepted large number of Jews, and you have no proof that Zionists prevented their acceptance in those countries, although they certainly wanted Jewish refugees to go to Palestine.

          • HebAlba

            Ok..this is more easy to read?

            “There is a huge amount of literature describing how the Zionists made it very difficult to save Jews during and after World War II. As various individuals and organizations were trying to arrange departures of Jews to western countries, the Zionists worked overtime to prevent this from happening. They expressed the opinion that building up the Jewish population of Palestine was more important than enabling Jews to go to third countries, and they insisted to western powers that Jews should not be accepted anywhere other than Palestine. Indeed, Yitzhak Gruenbaum, a famous Zionist, proclaimed that “one cow in Palestine was worth more than all the Jews in Poland.”

            The infamous David Ben-Gurion said in 1938:
            “If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel.”
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a1f509fed1e0cb81ace86a9aab484e6031ee0578f8124f05fa2e0c08cffa509c.jpg

          • Zev_disqus

            Your quotes show that Zionists wanted Jewish refugees to go to Palestine.
            Brilliant.

          • HebAlba

            Your not brilliant. “A cow in Israel is worth all the Jews of Poland”.. thus spoke ben Gurion.
            Zionist are a very sick evil cruel people. No religion have
            so little love, Zionist were atheist, they hijacked Zion the religion to speak for all Jews, is Jew a race or a religion..also you admit your founding fathers let them return to Germany to die in the holocaust rather than go to other countries.
            It’s Israel Original Sin.

          • Zev_disqus

            Haughty statements by politicians before the Holocaust began don’t prove much.

          • HebAlba

            The inconvenient truth. How convenient..

          • 5thDrawer

            …. and no matter at what personal costs to them.

          • Zev_disqus

            You can’t conquer the peak, without leaving graves on the slope.

            And btw, you may be right, but a quote from 1938 doesn’t prove it.

          • HebAlba

            Didn’t read above?
            “They blocked a similar initiative in the US Congress.
            At the same time, they rescued young Zionists. Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist Chief and later first President of Israel said: “Every nation has its dead in its fight for its homeland. The suffering under Hitler are our dead.” He said they “were moral and economic dust in a cruel world.” How hypocrite

          • Zev_disqus

            Rabbi Dr Solomon Schonfeld Saved thousands of Jews, mostly by bringing them to England. Zionists didn’t prevent him from doing so.

          • HebAlba

            Because of Balfour Declaration..but in 1940 Zionists terrorists groups offered Hitler to fight alongside third Reich against the British, after Begin’s bombing King David hotel, British Headquarters, they left
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cedfef2cfeb2bd15baa393921b3ce50069f1b94c21980bc5e94f02996838c2b1.jpg

          • Zev_disqus

            “…offered Hitler to fight alongside…”

            Only Lehi, too small to actually do it, made the offer.

          • HebAlba

            Lehi offered 50,000 men trained in Europe.
            The ‘offer’ was refused

          • Zev_disqus

            A number like that meant training European Jews in Germany or German controlled areas. There was zero chance of it being accepted

          • HebAlba

            “Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis. During World War II, it declared that it would establish
            a Jewish state based upon “nationalist and totalitarian principles”
            On 11 January 1941, Vice Admiral Ralf von der Marwitz, the German Naval attaché in Turkey, filed a report (the “Ankara document”) conveying an offer by Lehi to “actively take part in the war on Germany’s side” in return for German support for “the establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich.”
            Stern also proposed recruiting some 40,000 Jews from occupied Europe to invade Palestine with German support
            to oust the British”. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/44d3f9b1deb99a155867ea01067feaf15ce80854ca01c5e067748e395e85cd39.jpg

          • Zev_disqus

            Jan. 11, 1941 was a year before the Wannsee conference of Jan. 20, 1942. The offer was absurd, but its acceptance could have saved the lives of millions of Jews.

          • Omega

            Schonfeld is an unheard of hero.

            I don’t know if the Zionists prevented Schonfeld from bringing Jewish Europeans to England but they did obstruct two of his endeavors to save more Jews in 1942. Schonfeld attributed it to petty jealousy and tragic inability to appropriately prioritize the immediate cause of rescue and important but longer-term initiatives which could have waited until after the war – in reference to the Zionists who controlled most of the Jewish organizations and the money.

          • Y K
          • Niemals

            Wow, the mossad have time over for such practical jokes.

          • Y K

            Arab/Muslim idiocy is Mossad’s best asset. 🙂

          • HebAlba

            Zionists act like Nazi talk like Nazi because they’re Nazis.
            What Jews-Israel? Converted from Europe have claim to the land ..huh..they cry for money cause they live encircled by enemies who want their distruction, meanwhile by proxies they have destroyed the Middl East, created millions of dead and refugees, we’re eternaly in War. I pity your intellect

          • Rascal

            I pity your blind support for the evil dictator Khamenei and the shiite mullah bastards killing so many of their own people in Iran and sunni across the middle-east. BTW, many real WW2 Nazi seemed to feel very comfortable to take refuge in Syria next to the dictator Assads father. Look it up if you can face the truth.

          • Omega

            Recently declassified documents also attest Hitler was escaped to South America. He and many other Nazi officials lived long there. There are remains of Nazi ‘camps’ in many South American countries. There is also evidence that the Vatican helped the Nazis. All to say what? That the rise of the Third Reich was supported by the ruling class and governments. WW2 didn’t happen, wasn’t triggered from a natural cause and effect.

            Besides, where do you see HebAlba writing support for the Khomeini? What is this lousy diversion?

          • HebAlba

            Shut up already..pity yourself, ISIS killing Shia Sunni Kurd Alawit Yazidi , beheade Palesitinian 12 years boy, crucifying Christians in Syria Iraq Libya Africa but never Zionists cause they fight alongside them….
            I don’t support you either..count the assasinations

            Former Newspaper Editor Who Exposed CIA Found Dead
            http://yournewswire.com/german-newspaper-editor-exposed-cia-dead/

          • 5thDrawer

            Many more ‘revelations’ are needed – with the accurate grains of basic truth.

          • Niemals

            Are you referring to the Nazi war criminal Alois Brunner that died in a squalid Damascus cellar (in a basement) in 2001?
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70bb24385149922ba81fc7114e506f47831f259b7b9d46acc7b6c9aa1b92cf95.jpg
            Brunner, who was found responsible for the deaths of an estimated 130,000 Jews during World War Two, lived his last days locked up in a Syrian jail cell.

          • 5thDrawer
          • Niemals

            Friend of yours?

          • Rascal

            Most of the standing army and Wehrmacht were common soldiers, the nasty bunch came after in the form of the Schutzstaffel. Where as regular soldiers were more likely to surrender, the SS would fight to the death. Those were the political and radical jew hater elements that were feared. As you know, through the form of early indoctrination and brainwashing to create the perfect superior racist soldier.

          • Y K

            Does the father of your children look like Lenny Brenner? Something tells me he does. 🙂

          • HebAlba

            He’s your tribe VakOv

          • Y K

            He’s from the tribe of mental patients, of which you are a standing member.

          • HebAlba

            Are you in playschool?

          • 5thDrawer

            Part 4 is interesting too 😉

    • HebAlba

      Good news Discussion on News for Everyone 75 comments

      “Scradje Hoping for Peace 2 hours ago
      Dear HFP, sorry to go off topic: I was wondering if you could post to focusser or Larissa for me on UTUSA asking why I have been banned? I attempted to comment on your latest piece but was informed that I have been banned. It is baffling since I am a supporter of the site and its objectives.”

      • Y K

        I’m pretty sure he will live, retard. You pissing the pants in joy over this is just another indication of how pathologically stupid you are. Rest assured, if you get banned from a site – or get run over by a bus, for that matter – I’m not throwing a party in your honour. 🙂

        • HebAlba

          I don’t give a damn it’s just funny, don’t get on your high horses YYKK..not my fault if you Hasbarin make me curious.. humm..even in Malasia? You provoque me everyday Wahhaha!

          • Y K

            “I ran three miles to tell I don’t give a damn about you”. (c)

          • HebAlba

            How stupid, you look like a rejected monkey i can’t stop laughing..

          • Y K

            You have no idea how I look, garbled-brains. If you weren’t as clinically dumb as you are, you’d have known it.

          • HebAlba

            OK, you sounded…pfffhhhahah…

          • Rascal

            I think HezbAlba has the hots for you and look how much she promotes Jewish interest. Someday she will come out of the closet. The secret Jew !

          • HebAlba

            Ratscal.. as cretin as always..your colleague is here to harass i have no hots for Zionists (they have low IQ).

          • HebAlba

            My name is not Hezb.
            Heb = love, you degenerated
            non-Semitic Zionist disease..

          • Rascal

            “Heb” is entirely not fitting for you and your hate mongering ways.

          • HebAlba

            The abused became the abusers
            I consider them Nazis get it in your Zio head; anti-Semitism and Zionists Fascism were born in Europe not the Middle-East, have a nice rats day.

    • HebAlba

      You repulsive creature kind Khazar Jew.

      • Y K

        I have no real issue with you hating Jooz. After all, that’s what defines you. But why the hell the “Khazar” obsession? If they were “real” Jooz, would you suddenly love them? 🙂

        • HebAlba

          I have no issue but your stupid coward cretin low life harassement.

          Y K • 3 days ago
          I bet this repulsive creature is HeBlabla’s kind of Christian! 🙂
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  • Omega

    R.I.P.

    • Y K

      If by “man” you mean this sack of shit’s rotting dead body, and by “resting” you mean being eaten by maggots, then I certainly don’t disagree. No reason to stand in the way of the Reaper’s good work. 🙂

      • Omega

        A ‘man’ is something you never were, are not and will never be.

        • Y K

          That’s actually not a bad – albeit vaguely misogynistic – comeback, especially taking into account how swift it was. You see, even a generally worthless piece of genetic garbage like yourself can sometimes contribute to the debate. 🙂

          • HebAlba

            YaLibnan we’ve had enough of this language, you call it discussion?

            Y K “You see, even a generally worthless piece of genetic garbage like yourself..”

            “Taking mangled-English lessons from HeBlabla now, moron?”

            “If by “man” you mean this sack of shit’s rotting dead body, and by “resting” you mean being eaten by maggots, then I certainly don’t disagree. No reason to stand in the way of the Reaper’s good work. :-)”

        • HebAlba
          • Omega

            You can’t reason why madness.

          • Omega

            You can’t reason why madness.

            I’d replace Jew with: descendant of degenerate inbred Khazarian thugs.

          • Y K

            “You can’t reason why madness.”

            Taking mangled-English lessons from HeBlabla now, moron?

            If you believe what you’re doing is “reasoning”, then you’re even dumber than I thought. (Well, got to admit that’s actually impossible). 🙂

          • Omega

            Damn. If a simple typo bends you backwards this much …

          • Y K

            “so full of hate he’s a danger to humanity”

            Arab Nazi projection at its worst.

            “Here’s a real jew”

            Who is a “real Jew” – me or Solzhenitsyn? Due to your general illiteracy and stupidity, it’s sometimes not so easy to figure out what you mean. 🙂

          • HebAlba

            I’m comparing your hysteric hatred to the Bolsheviks Khazar Jews. Today’s Zionists.

            The Russians were the Christians.

            Your crass illiteracy is diverting from the subject..no more “skills”?

      • HebAlba

        Sharon must be buried upside down..

        • Omega

          He, somehow, grew a conscience in his last years.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgGvpkUMp4

          • HebAlba

            Netanyahoo looks as mad as hell..maybe Sharon was poisoned after this..

          • 5thDrawer

            Speeches ARE important. And few seem to have mentioned Obama’s ‘farewell’ – which I was felt was one of the the best. I wonder how many really listen? Or consider all he said.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnnj8Pajk4Q

            And yes, it was ‘American’ … but from the soul. And accurate in emulating Kennedy’s ‘Ask what you can do FOR America’ … not what you can take away from it … Or away from the ‘democracy’, and some honesty in that.
            There has been MUCH done in the last 8 years, which is trivialized or negated in media which ‘ignores’ finding the ‘real’ of stories pumped out for ‘reactions’ – or simply not reported at all. And some things, of course, can’t be accurate until all the ‘numbers’ are finally crunched. A few ‘Tweeters’ throwing out ‘one-liners’ against ‘popular concepts’ which they don’t want to hear, has certainly mucked up and caused a lot of ‘angst’ among ‘the people’ who never listen with any depth of understanding.
            Add in the ‘lines’ which come from ‘outsiders’ wishing to cause ‘upsets’ to ‘parties’ AND countries AND some other ‘working-well’ systems – propagated as ‘news secrets’, AND THAT even within the country – and today’s pandemoniums are bound to break out.
            ‘The Sky Is Falling’, said Chicken Little. Do they ever read that story to kids anymore??

          • Y K

            Wanted to say something positive and uplifting, then so that HeBlabla upvoted this, and thought better of it. 🙂

  • Niemals

    Why a native of Aleppo, will be buried in Lebanon?

    • Y K

      The only proper place of burial for him is a garbage dump. Lebanon has quite a few of those. 🙂

    • Barry

      No way they want to travel to that hell hole.

  • kirby1

    The biggest lie of all. Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the “Palestinians”:
    “Masri” = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word “masri” littelery means “the egyptian” in arabic !).
”Khamis”= Bahrain “Salem Hanna Khamis” “al-Faruqi”= Mosul, Iraq
”al-Araj” = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty “Hussein al-Araj”
”al Lubnani” = the Lebanese
”al-Mughrabi” = the Moroccan (Maghreb” – meaning “West” in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
”al-Djazair” = the Algerian
”al-Yamani” = the Yemeni “Issam Al Yamani”
”al-Afghani” = the Afghan
”al-Hindi” = the Indian “Amin al-Hindi”
”Iraqi” = from Iraq.
”halabi” = from Aleppo, Syria
”El Baghdadi” = from Baghdad Iraq.
”Tarabulsi”= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
”Hourani” = Houran Syria.
”al-Husayni” = Saudi Arabia.
”Saudi” = Saudi Arabia.
”Metzarwah”= Egypt.
”Barda—wil” = “Salah Bardawil” HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
”Nashashibi” = Syria.
”Bushnak” = Bosnia
”zoabi”= from Iraq: “Haneen Zoabi”.
”Turki” = Turkey “Daud Turki”
”al-Kurd” = Kurdistan.
”Haddadins” = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
”Arab Abu-Kishk” = Egypt.(Bedouins)
”Arab al shakirat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
”Arab al zabidat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
”Arab al aramsha” = Egypt (Bedouins)

    • HebAlba

      Normal, Mesopotamia (that West changed the name to Iraq after WWI), was Syria from the Nile to the Euphrates for 6000 years, the land of the Semites. There were no frontiers, it became Christian from Syria to Egypt 2000 years before Islam. 400 yrs before the Ottomans conquest.
      Palestinians where in Mesopotamia.
      Moslem names from the North Africa (Maghreb) or other started after the 7th century.

      Pierre Gemayel, the founder of Maronites phalanges was born in Egypt, his parent were staying at friends. He was Lebanese.

      • kirby1

        Zahir Muhse’in, a member of the PLO’s Executive Committee, stated:
        The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.

        In addition to verifying that the “Palestinians” are an invented people, Muhse’in also tells us why they were invented: “Only for political and tactical reasons…to oppose Zionism.”
        Palestinian ambassador reiterates call for a Jew-free Palestinian state.

        • HebAlba

          AIPAC booklet is worn out..i’ve read this passage from every Zionist troll..
          BTW. Zionists call for a Palestinian free Israel 😉

          • kirby1

            Yeah, that’s why the Palestinian diplomat said Jew twice ;-)))))

          • Omega

            Anything is possible. Abu Nidal was allegedly Palestinian but was a Mossad asset.

            Abbas (with his dubious KGB past) has always favored the Israeli cause. Why would he care? He’s wealthy and lives well.

        • Omega

          Shlomo Sand said the very same about the Jews/Israelis/Israel: that they are an invention. What is your point?

          • kirby1

            Shlomo Sand is a film historian, jackass.

          • Omega

            I see: anyone who critiques the Jewish, Israeli story is a clown but anyone who does the same about Palestine and the Palestinians is right.

            How do you explain …

            – The Hebrew Book’s depicts the homeland of the Jews in Mizraim, Yemen. Its translation, which serves as the basis for the old Latin, Slavonic, Syriac, old Armenian, old Georgian and Coptic versions of the Christian Old Testament, or simply the Bible, places the homeland of the Jews in Palestine.

            – To date, there is not a single shred of archeological of the Exodus of 600,000 families (2,000,000 people) from Egypt to Palestine.

            – Dr. Ernest Martin’s (American archeologist and professor) archeology research in Jerusalem concluded that Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of Rock are not built on top of the Temple Mount and that the Western Wall (the wall on which Jews pray) is the remain of a Roman fortress. Benjamin Mazar’s (professor and former President of the Hebrew University) research reaches the same conclusion. Many other historians and archeologists attest the same.

            – The UNESCO concluded (more than once and based on forensic archeological research) that there is no Jewish connection to Jerusalem. http://bit.ly/2eeLq4e

            – The J1 vs J2 haplotype and its specific markers in Semitic people and non-Semitic people (Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews)

            – The modern invention of the terminology ‘Judaism’: “Among the innumerable misfortunes which have befallen… the most fatal in its consequences is the name Judaism… neither in biblical nor post-biblical, neither in Talmudic nor in much later times, is the term Judaism ever heard…” – Rabbi Adolph Moses & Rabbi H.G. Enlow , “Yahvism and Other Discourses”.

        • Niemals

          Have you reflected over some newly released documents about the British that –encouraged Arabs to oppose partition?
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/44c1ee793f0960d398b45486e9af0f493fb659fe2b8111e7e4cf28456035d874.jpg
          According to this documents recently released by the CIA, the British Government was actively encouraging the Arab leadership to oppose partition, turning a blind eye enabling Arabs to acquire arms to attack Jews.

          Furthermore this document, which is dated January 1947 – ten months prior to the partition of Palestine – details a meeting between the Grand Mufti and Afif Tibi, owner of a Lebanese newspaper and – according to the document – “a former Nazi collaborator.”

          • kirby1

            Thanks

          • Niemals

            Another peculiar news;
            An unusual conference held in Amman brought professors from four countries to discuss a particular topic – teaching Hebrew to students at universities from Saudi Arabia to Egypt; speakers say Israelis know more about Arabs than the Arabs know about Israel and Jews.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c37387e634804b6f2553763f1314c7ea65e7599b951fb99ef42a747883d6214e.jpg Egyptian, Jordanian, Saudis, and Iraqi students gathered for a workshop in Amman last week to discuss what to many may seem like a surprising issue; the future of the Hebrew language in the Arab World.

          • Omega

            What is your post supposed to say? Especially the Israelis know more about Arabs than the Arabs know about Israel and Jews. part? If Israel knows more about Arabs than Arabs about Israel, it’s because of their spying capabilities.

            As far as the Hebrew language is concerned, modern Hebrew is not based on ancient Hebrew. Interestingly enough, it was the Rothschild who financed the revival of the language (I wonder if they speak it) – question of creating a falsified identity for the Zionist Europeans who migrated to Palestine.

            Its acceptance by the early Jewish immigrants to Ottoman Palestine was primarily due to support from the organisations of Edmond James de Rothschild in the 1880s and the official status it received in the 1922 constitution of the British Mandate for Palestine.[12][13][14][15] -Wikipedia

          • HebAlba

            “Peculiar” to you we already know the news you post..

          • Y K

            “Israelis know more about Arabs than the Arabs know about Israel and Jews”

            Sadly, most Arabs don’t know much about anything. Especially the “educated” ones. They are truly the worst. 🙂

          • Omega

            I don’t think you comprehend the meaning of that declassified document.

          • kirby1

            You don’t think and you definitely don’t comprehend.

          • HebAlba

            Haida akbar majnoun aktar min kol il majnounin houn, ma’trud aleihu

          • HebAlba

            Oh Yeah?.. Really?

          • HebAlba
          • Omega

            Good post.

            It wasn’t the first time that England played both sides (the thesis and anti-thesis) to reach their planned/desired anti-thesis. Having the Muslims reject the partition not only make the Jews look good but it also led to further action to grab as much land as possible. The Zionists never had any intention to share but to take it all.

            I have said this many times before: the Mufti was very much in bed with the Brits who supported him.

            Loftus also spoke about another prominent member of the Brotherhood, Haj Mohammad Effendi Amin al-Husayni, who was both the organization’s representative in Palestine and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (a position that was appointed by the British, while Palestine was under British occupation, 1917-48). Before becoming Grand Mufti in 1921, al-Husayni had been a principal organizer of the 1920 “Bloody Passover” massacre of Jews who were praying at Jerusalem’s Wailing Wall.

            While the Grand Mufti’s Nazi connection is widely known, his rise to power was British-Zionist handiwork. Though himself a Jew, Sir Herbert Samuel, the British High Commissioner of the Palestine Mandate and a Zionist (his appointment as High Commissioner was welcomed by the Zionists at the time), appointed al-Husayni in spite of vigorous protests from most Palestinian Arabs, as well as from Jewish settlers.

            Following a failed attempt to create a pro-Nazi uprising in Iraq, the Grand Mufti fled to Europe to organize Arab forces disguised as SS divisions for the Third Reich. Though a war criminal, the Grand Mufti and his troops were spirited away from prosecution in Egypt by the British secret service, Loftus noted.[3]

            The Muslim Brotherhood: The Many Faces of Their Majesty’s Service
            http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2013/4031mb_hms.html

          • Omega

            Yes.

            It wasn’t the first time that England played both sides (the thesis and anti-thesis) to reach their planned/desired anti-thesis. Having the Muslims reject the partition not only make the Jews look good but it also led to further action to grab as much land as possible. The Zionists never had any intention to share but to take it all.

            I have said this many times before: the Mufti was very much in bed with the Brits who supported him.

            Loftus also spoke about another prominent member of the Brotherhood, Haj Mohammad Effendi Amin al-Husayni, who was both the organization’s representative in Palestine and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (a position that was appointed by the British, while Palestine was under British occupation, 1917-48). Before becoming Grand Mufti in 1921, al-Husayni had been a principal organizer of the 1920 “Bloody Passover” massacre of Jews who were praying at Jerusalem’s Wailing Wall.

            While the Grand Mufti’s Nazi connection is widely known, his rise to power was British-Zionist handiwork. Though himself a Jew, Sir Herbert Samuel, the British High Commissioner of the Palestine Mandate and a Zionist (his appointment as High Commissioner was welcomed by the Zionists at the time), appointed al-Husayni in spite of vigorous protests from most Palestinian Arabs, as well as from Jewish settlers.

            Following a failed attempt to create a pro-Nazi uprising in Iraq, the Grand Mufti fled to Europe to organize Arab forces disguised as SS divisions for the Third Reich. Though a war criminal, the Grand Mufti and his troops were spirited away from prosecution in Egypt by the British secret service, Loftus noted.[3]

            The Muslim Brotherhood: The Many Faces of Their Majesty’s Service: http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2013/4031mb_hms.html

          • HebAlba
          • HebAlba
          • kirby1

            Looks like your post has gotten the attention of the Hezbollah troll Omega and HebAlba.

          • Niemals

            It must be very frustrating for Omega and HebAlba since I stoped paying any attention to both of them.

          • HebAlba

            Hahahahahaha..haahh ..you have niemans choice retard Guest Matrix likes.

          • Omega

            As long as you convince yourself of your own bs, that is what matters. (wink)

          • Omega

            Once every hundred posts, he posts (read: copy paste) something of value.

          • kirby1

            You never posted anything of value.

          • Niemals

            He always attached propaganda reruns circulating about his favorite subject – the hatred of Westerners and their masters the Zionists…..
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7db23909ba9e46cd93ceb5a1f54f07ec92bf80d94e7747677490818cf8416bf5.jpg
            The core of the entire world’s misery.;-)

          • Omega

            Said the copy-past hasbara-sayanaim.

          • kirby1

            Hezbollah propaganda troll destroying Lebanon.

          • Omega

            Hahaha! Another vermin pretending to care for Lebanon and its people. Get real.

          • kirby1

            Another Iranian proxy pretending to care about Lebanon and its perople, and that is a FACT.

          • Omega

            Born, raised and live in Lebanon. Try harder and quit mumbling like you have the slightest clue.

          • kirby1

            For Hezbollah, Lebanon and its people are expendable you are the worst type of traitor

          • Omega

            Hezbollah and the Lebanese Army are the first to show up at the borders to repel your Wahhabi sub-human brothers (supported by the UK and her two whores, the USA and IsraHell).

            Drop you act and stop pretending to give a shit about Lebanon and its people.

          • kirby1

            CASABLANCA – Lebanese daily Al-Mustaqbalpublished an article claiming that Hezbollah has morphed from being a resistance organization to a “Frankenstein’s monster” controlled by Iran and an occupier of Arab lands.
            The writer, poet and literary critic Paul Shaoul, asserts that Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon took with it Hezbollah’s raison d’etre, leaving the Shi’ite terror organization to replace Israel with new Sunni Arab enemies that include Saudi Arabia. It has since become a “mercenary” that seeks to destroy Lebanon and redraw borders across the Arab world.
            “Hezbollah’s existence depends on the existence of a permanent enemy, imaginary or not,” Shaoul writes, explaining that Iran originally created the group to resist its enemies – chiefly, Israel.
            “In the natural course of things, when the enemy withdraws the resistance withdraws as well, for it is no longer needed. But in the absence of an enemy, the slogan of ‘resistance’ must still be maintained in order to maintain legitimacy,” the article, translated by MEMRI, continues.
            Even though the newspaper belongs to Hezbollah’s rivals in Lebanon, the March 14 Forces, the article marks an unusual challenge in the Lebanese news media to Hezbollah’s legitimacy as a so-called resistance organization.
            Shaoul further charges that rather than uniting the country, Hezbollah is benefiting from being a dividing and destructive force.

            “It became a militia without any identity [of its own], a mercenary, but possessing very large ambitions, starting with destroying its country, which it has begun to pulverize with its weapons,” he writes, adding that Hezbollah “has turned Lebanon into military base … from which to attack the Arab world, which has become its enemy instead of Israel.”
            The group, according to Shaoul, is now occupying several Arab countries including Syria, Yemen, and Iraq. It no longer views the “Americans as the Great Satan, Israel as absolute evil, or Russia as the imperialist regime of the Orthodox” Church.
            Instead, the enemy is now “Sunni Islam, represented by Saudi Arabia, and Arabism, represented by the majority of the Arab nation – which [according to Iran] must both be dismantled in order to redraw the borders and create new states or mini-states, or even new peoples.”
            Finally, Shaoul blasts Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah and Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei for deserting the Palestinians despite their pledges to the contrary.
            “Well, what have you done for Palestinians except thwart any solution of establishing an independent [Palestinian] state with its own borders and government?” he writes. “You have done nothing for them worth mentioning, but only harmed them and plotted against them.”
            Shaoul ends by noting that parts of the Arab world are starting to take note of Iran and Hezbollah’s plot to “wipe them off the map,” as evidenced by the Gulf states recent designation of Hezbollah as a terror organization.
            “It has become a battle of life and death,” he concludes.

          • Omega

            You really take the cake with copy-pasting. There again, you lack the slightest critical thinking and thus, reasoning. Keep it up.

          • kirby1

            It’s 4:00 am in Lebanon so obviously you’re from another area.

          • Omega

            Deny what?

            I am sure you heard of: ‘Opinions are like assholes…everyone has one’. The one of a writer, poet and literary critic, Paul Shaoul in this case is not any different.

            I am not from another area, I am posting from a different time zone. Leave your mom’s basement and leave the neighborhood for a change to see what it’s like. Besides, what does it have to do with Hezbollah? ps – I am not Shia Muslim and I only support Hezbollah’s military stance against the Zionist cancer. The Shia don’t want to make of Lebanon an Islamic State. The Gulf and your Wahhabi/Salafist cousins do.

          • Omega

            Can’t deny what? Ever heard of ‘Opinions are like assholes…everyone has one’. The one of a writer, poet and literary critic, Paul Shaoul (and yours) in this case, is not any different.

            I am not from another area, I am posting from a different time zone. Leave your mom’s basement and leave the neighborhood for a change to see what it’s like. Besides, what does time/area have to do with Hezbollah? I support Hezbollah’s military stance against the Zionist cancer.

            I don’t see you ever criticize Wahhabi Arabia and their cockroaches – why is that? The are the ones spreading Sharia Law, beheading anyone who’s not Sunni/Wahhabi/Salafist, raping children/women, destroying historical artifacts, killing Christians, etc.

          • kirby1

            “I am not from another area, I am posting from a different time zone.”
            – try a different country.

          • Omega

            Sure, lets try somewhere in Asia. Pick a country.

          • kirby1

            “Born, raised and live in Lebanon”
            – you really need to keep your story straight Hezbollah troll.

          • Omega

            I don’t know if I should laugh or shake my head in disdain. Are you serious?

            Ever heard of travel? It’s defined as: make a journey, typically of some length or abroad.

            I told you and I’ll repeat: get out of your mom’s basement, leave the neighborhood for once and try it.

          • kirby1

            LOL never hear of the past tense “lived” compared to your present tense “live”, fvcking moron

          • Omega

            What are you talking about?

            never hear? lives vs live? What?

            I live in Lebanon, why would I write ‘lived’?

          • kirby1

            Try learning some english, fvcking moron.

          • Omega

            You seem angry.

            I believe my English is good enough. Now, try to articulate.

            When you tell people that you live in your mom’s moldy basement, do you write ‘lived’ in the past tense? No, you do so in the present: ‘live’.

          • Omega

            You seem angry.

            I believe my English is good enough. Now, try to articulate.

            When you tell people that you live in your mom’s moldy basement, do you write ‘lived’ in the past tense? No, you do so in the present: ‘live’.

          • Rudy1947

            Did you take out your trash and use the recycle bin?

          • Omega

            You too, quit mumbling like you have the slightest clue and most importantly, don’t pretend you give a shit about Lebanon and its people.

          • Rudy1947

            But did you take out your trash and use the recycle bin?

          • Omega

            What are you talking about? Seriously.

            I live with my wife and kids in an apartment with garbage chutes on each floor. The bags end up in bins in the basement. The bins are picked up twice a week. Does that satisfy your garbage fetish you deviant lonely fvck? Or do you want to know what was inside each garbage bag?

            Look at the bigoted American imposing his way on the world. Take care of your own decaying country before meddling in others’. I hope you’re ready for what’s coming your way in ‘Murica.

            Last but most importantly, you (and Americans) need to drop the French words. It looks beyond ridiculous and only make you look stupider than you already are. Passé – (laughing).

          • Rudy1947

            French words??? Anyway, you didn’t’t mention any recycling which would have reduced the trash. Recycling is not a ‘Murica thing it’s a world thing. But you don’t care about Lebanon or the world, just the convenience of leaving your crap everywhere.

          • Omega

            Yes du con, ‘passé’ is French.

            Has it crossed your bigoted mind that I may not have anything to recycle?

            Where do you read me write that recycling is an American thing?

            Resorting at making more stuff up (that I don’t care for Lebanon or the world) makes you a even bigger idiot than when you use French words. Nobody leaves crap everywhere in Lebanon. The waste crisis in Beirut was/is entirely attributable to corrupt politicians. I’ve always told you and I’ll reiterate: you mumble from afar without having the slightest clue.

          • HebAlba

            eltellak ma tehke ma’ou, haida majnoun

          • Omega

            Ba3ref.

      • Zev_disqus

        “it became Christian from Syria to Egypt 2000 years before Islam.”

        You think so? Are you mad?

        • Y K

          She (it?) is a clinical idiot. Like in the “moron-imbecile-idiot” classification. 🙂

        • Niemals

          Who/what became Christian from Syria to Egypt 2000 years before Islam?

          Christianity exist 2017 A.D., Islam was created some 1600 years ago.
          How come that “it became Christian from Syria to Egypt 2000 years before Islam.”?!
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09909476be43703e025923251eb38dd0dc7673ed392487be8818fd308ad4e279.jpg
          It can be only in the logic of the real ‘Christian’, a Christian derived from the 2000 years before Islam Christians…..
          Christianity is over 4000 years old…… Did I get it correct?

          • HebAlba

            We know that.

    • Niemals

      Only recently the Polizei in Köln start using this new knowledge that many Arabs identify their origins by their family names, the result was astonishing.
      In total, the police identified the identity of 674 people.
      Up to now, the nationality of 425 persons has been ascertained.
      Of these, 99 were Iraqis, 94 Syrians, 48 Afghans, 17 were Moroccans and 13 Algerians.

      • Y K

        The German Police should adopt the original idea of letting all these “Kulturbereicherer” discover their origins at their places of origin. 🙂

        • Niemals

          The identification of incoming refugees without a passport was a nightmare.

          However according to the Vorsitzender des Bundestags-Innenausschusses Ansgar Heveling (CDU) a gap in the german law will allow the use of the smartphone carried by the incoming refugees.

          A gap in the law makes it possible to follow the whole trekking path through smartphone positioning log – from the starting point all the way to Germany. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a0b2473f31d711228252d98fa7755a37686d61ca04ffa8769bebaece861f5bb.jpg Flüchtlinge fotografieren eine Landkarte auf der griechischen Insel Lesbos. © Iakavos Hartziavrou/AFP/Getty Images

    • Omega

      Since your comment isn’t a response to someone’s comment, what does it have to do with the article itself?

      What is the biggest lie of all you talk about?

    • HebAlba

      Herodotus 500 BC.
      “Thence they went on to invade Egypt; and when they were in Syria which
      is called Palestine, Psammetichos king of Egypt met them; and by gifts and
      entreaties he turned them from their purpose, so that they should not
      advance any further: and as they retreated, when they came to the city of
      Ascalon in Syria, most of the Scythians passed through without doing any
      damage, but a few of them who had stayed behind plundered the temple of Aphrodite Urania.

      That this was so I conjectured myself not only because they are dark-skinned and have curly hair (this of itself amounts to nothing, for there are other races which are so), but also still more because the Colchians, Egyptians, and Ethiopians alone of all the races of men have practised circumcision from the first.

      The Phenicians and the Syrians[88] who dwell in Palestine confess
      themselves that they have learnt it from the Egyptians, and the Syrians [89] about the river Thermodon and the river Parthenios, and the
      Macronians, who are their neighbours, say that they have learnt it lately
      from the Colchians. 106. The pillars which Sesostris of Egypt set up in the various countries are for the most part no longer to be seen extant; but in Syria Palestine I myself saw them existing with the inscription upon them which I have mentioned and the emblem.”

      • kirby1

        Today’s Palestinians are immigrants from many nations: “Balkans, Greeks, Syrians, Latins, Egyptians, Turks, Armenians, Italians, Persians, Kurds, Germans, Afghans, Circassians, Bosnians, Sudaneese, Samaritans, Algerians, Motawila, Tartars, Hungarians, Scots, Navarese, Bretons, English, Franks, Ruthenians, Bohemians, Bulgarians, Georgians, Syrians, Persian Nestorians, Indians, Copts, Maronites, and many others.” (DeHass, History, p. 258. John of Wurzburg list from Reinhold Rohricht edition, pp. 41, 69).

        There are villages populated wholly by settlers from other portions of the Turkish Empire in the 19th century. There are villages of Bosnians, Circassians, and Egyptians. -Parkes, James William, History of the Peoples of Palestine, Hammondsworth, Great Britain, 1970, p. 212.

        There are very large contingents from the Mediterranean countries, especially Armenia, Greece, and Italy, Turkomen settlers, a fairly large Afghan colony, Motawila, immigrants from Persia, tribes of Kurds, a Bosnian colony, Circassian settlements, a large Algerian element, Sudanese… -Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1911 ed.
        [Ibrahim Pasha, the 1831 Egyptian conquerer of Palestine] “left behind him permanent colonies of Egyptians at Besian, Nablus, Irbid, Acre, and Jaffa. Into Jaffa alone, “at least 2,000 people have been imported.” -Ernst Frankenstein, Justice For My People, London, Nicholson and Watson, 1943, p. 127.

        In 1860, entire Algerian tribes immigrated en masse to Safed. The Muslims of Safed, are “mostly descended from these Moorish settlers and from Kurds that came earlier to the city.”
-De Haas, Jacob, History of Palestine, The Last Two Thousand Years, New York, 1934, p. 425.

        • Omega

          And the Palestinians were Muslim, Christian and Jewish. What is your point? Quit copy-pasting ad nauseam and try to reason for a change.

  • HebAlba

    Can’t believe YaLibnan a Middle Eastern site would use Western propagandist article fake information – unless it was sold to Zionists media Corp groups of course- to inform us with this: “A native of Aleppo, Syria, Capucci died in Rome on Jan.1 at the age of 94. A funeral is expected Monday.”
    Former Jerusalem Archbishop was not a native of Aleppo, what kind of journalism is this, he was a native of Palestine born in 1914. Shame !!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/319f61046332f0e351826ac832788d306e2f1782004b5ea6ab7455a088e1a93b.jpg !

  • HebAlba

    That’s why this place is dying, publishing non-stop biased Zionist News Corp made
    for stupids..which make stupids more stupid.

    “A native of Aleppo, Syria, Capucci died in Rome on Jan.1 at the age of 94. A funeral is expected Monday.”

    Palestinian Bishop was a native of Palestine.

    • Y K

      “why this place is dying”

      Sadly, only you refuse to. Need any help? 🙂

  • kirby1

    Hilarion Capucci (2 March 1922 – 1 January 2017) was a Syrian Catholic bishop who served as the titular archbishop of Caesarea in the Melkite Greek Catholic Church. He was born in Aleppo, Syria.

    • kirby1
      • HebAlba

        “Born in 1922 in Aleppo to Syrian Christian parents, George Khayyat Kabouji’s love for Palestine was evident from the priestly name he adopted for himself. Hilarion was a Christian saint born in South Gaza in 32AD during the Byzantine era. Remnants of the St Hilarion Monastery, known in Arabic as Tell Umm Amer, stand today in the Gaza Strip as testimony to the fourth-century monk.”

        PALESTINE was in Syria. What is it to you?

        “Hanan Ashrawi, a Christian member of the PLO executive committee, noted that the late bishop was a reminder of the days when priests were actively engaged in political struggles – from opposing the Vietnam War, to leading liberation movements in Latin America.”

        • kirby1

          Bu||$hit.

          • HebAlba

            Bull$hiter blocked

          • kirby1

            Drop dead

          • kirby1

            The biggest lie of all. Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the “Palestinians”:
            “Masri” = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word “masri” littelery means “the egyptian” in arabic !).
            
”Khamis”= Bahrain “Salem Hanna Khamis” “al-Faruqi”= Mosul, Iraq
            
”al-Araj” = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty “Hussein al-Araj”
            
”al Lubnani” = the Lebanese
            
”al-Mughrabi” = the Moroccan (Maghreb” – meaning “West” in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
            
”al-Djazair” = the Algerian
            
”al-Yamani” = the Yemeni “Issam Al Yamani”
            
”al-Afghani” = the Afghan
            
”al-Hindi” = the Indian “Amin al-Hindi”
            
”Iraqi” = from Iraq.
            
”halabi” = from Aleppo, Syria
            
”El Baghdadi” = from Baghdad Iraq.
            
”Tarabulsi”= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
            
”Hourani” = Houran Syria.
            
”al-Husayni” = Saudi Arabia.
            
”Saudi” = Saudi Arabia.
            
”Metzarwah”= Egypt.
            
”Barda—wil” = “Salah Bardawil” HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
            
”Nashashibi” = Syria.
            
”Bushnak” = Bosnia
            
”zoabi”= from Iraq: “Haneen Zoabi”.
            
”Turki” = Turkey “Daud Turki”
            
”al-Kurd” = Kurdistan.
            
”Haddadins” = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
            
”Arab Abu-Kishk” = Egypt.(Bedouins)
            
”Arab al shakirat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
            
”Arab al zabidat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
            
”Arab al aramsha” = Egypt (Bedouins)

            Even Yasser Arafat, the most famous “Palestinian” and leader of the P.L.O terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a “Palestinian refugee” but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini. “Al-Qudwa” tribe origin?

            Yasser Arafat also proudly stated in his authorized biography that, “If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them.”l

          • Omega

            Why do you keep copy-pasting the same bs over and over again? Do you really think all the people from within a country all have the same name? Besides, Jewish Egyptian, Jewish Jordanian, Jewish Iraqis, Jewish Iranian, etc were Egyptian, Jordanian, Iraqi, Iranian, etc – they were very much Arab, Persian and what not.

          • Zev_disqus

            Both facts are true. Jews admit it. Palestinians don’t.

          • Omega

            What both facts?

          • Zev_disqus

            Most of both peoples have ancestors who lived somewhere else.
            OTOH, there’s a difference. The Jews were always identified, in one way or another, with Palestine. An Arab who lived in the places in kirby1’s list had no connection with Palestine whatsoever.

          • Omega

            The inhabitant of the land in question were the Palestinians. Regardless of their religious faith, they were Palestinians. It was one people, not two or three. Religion is not an ethnicity.

            What do you mean by Jews were always identified, in one way or another, with Palestine? How so? Demographically speaking, the Jewish Palestinians have always been a minority (~4% of the population) for centuries. Other Arab countries had far more:

            http://i65.tinypic.com/mn109e.png

            Despite kirby1 copy-pasting that comment twice, I don’t understand the relevance. It’s taken for granted that the people mentioned in the list do not belong in Palestine. Therefore and based on that premise, only the inhabitant of Palestinian have the right to the land – regardless of their faith. Those who came outside do not. The comment also brought up the case of born-in-Egypt Arafat. The very same applies to the Easter European Jews:

            Golda Mabovich, aka Golda Meir – born in Ukraine
            Szymon Perski, aka Shimon Perez – born Poland
            David Gruen, aka David Ben-Gurion, born Poland
            Menachem Wolfovitch Begin, aka Menachem Begin, born Russia
            Etc.

          • Omega

            The inhabitant of the land in question were the Palestinians. Regardless of their religious faith, they were Palestinians. It was one people, not two or three. Religion is not an ethnicity.

            What do you mean by Jews were always identified, in one way or another, with Palestine? How so? Jews always identified to one another with faith before 1948 and with a land aftewards. Demographically speaking, the Jewish Palestinians have always been a minority (~4% of the population) for centuries. Other Arab countries had far more:

            http://i65.tinypic.com/mn109e.png

            Despite kirby1 copy-pasting that comment twice, I don’t understand the relevance. It’s taken for granted that the people mentioned in the list do not belong in Palestine. Therefore and based on that premise, only the inhabitant of Palestinian have the right to the land – regardless of their faith. Those who came outside do not. The comment also brought up the case of born-in-Egypt Arafat. The very same applies to the Easter European Jews:

            Golda Mabovich, aka Golda Meir – born in Ukraine

            Szymon Perski, aka Shimon Perez – born Poland

            David Gruen, aka David Ben-Gurion, born Poland

            Menachem Wolfovitch Begin, aka Menachem Begin, born Russia

            Avigdor Lieberman – born Moldova

            Etc.

          • Zev_disqus

            “It was one people,
            Yes, they were all Arabs, except for some Jews, and others the Ottomans brought it.

          • HebAlba

            That’s right for “Kirby1′ list” 😉

    • HebAlba

      Palestine was in Syria for 7,000 years till Zionists in WW1.