Cooperation with Russia in Syria not based on trust: U.S. general

U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter (L) and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph F. Dunford hold a joint news conference at the Pentagon in Washington, U.S. July 25, 2016. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas
U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter (L) and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph F. Dunford hold a joint news conference at the Pentagon in Washington, U.S. July 25, 2016. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas

Any military or intelligence cooperation between the United States and Russia to strike targets in Syria would include measures to ensure U.S. operational security and would not be based on trust, a top U.S. military official said on Monday.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Friday that he would meet his Russian counterpart in the coming days to discuss an American proposal for closer military cooperation and intelligence sharing on Syria.

The proposal, which Kerry hopes to conclude within weeks, envisions ways in which Washington and Moscow would share intelligence to coordinate air strikes against the al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front and prohibit the Syrian air force from attacking moderate rebel groups.

The proposal has met with deep skepticism by top American military and intelligence officials.

“We’re not entering into a transaction that is founded on trust,” Marine General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford said at a news conference with U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter.

“There will be specific procedures and processes in any transaction we might have with the Russians that will account for protecting our operational security.”

The negotiations Kerry is having with the Russians, Carter said, are based on “mutual interest to the extent and when and as we are able to identify that with the Russians.”

Many U.S. officials are concerned that sharing intelligence with Russia could risk revealing U.S. intelligence sources, methods and capabilities.

 

DOESN’T TRUST THE RUSSIANS

Dunford said Monday that he doesn’t trust the Russians to live up to agreements and was wary of plans to cooperate with them on ending Syria’s civil war.

Should Kerry’s negotiations with Moscow be successful, the U.S. should be mindful that “We’re not entering into a transaction that’s founded on trust,” Dunford said.

REUTERS/MILITARY.COM

  • Michaelinlondon1234

    The only thing to expect from the USA is their interests take preference over every one else. They are quite happy to slaughter whole countries to acheive it.

    • 5thDrawer

      By this time neither side can be ‘trusted’ to do a real job for all humanity. And the generals who played together not so many years ago will have had their instructions.
      Both of the bastards want Canada’s Northern islands and the north pole, now that they caused the warming that’s opening it up. I think the floating city which all the ‘Tops’ want to cruise through it on, should just be allowed to really experience it … polar bears and all.

      • Michaelinlondon1234

        I hear one of the local “Villages” is expecting a cruise ship next month.
        I tried working -15 in St Andrews. Expect upgrades to Canada’s fleet of Ice breakers. Interesting since I grew up in +40 degrees C in my childhood. I have done from deserts to coldish climates.

        Interesting the way vegetation shapes climate/Land and vice versa. The US seems to have done as good a job gradually turning the USA in to desert as every one else in the middle east.(levant etc) (Aquifers/Californian…Mid east drought/ Logging/Hunting etc) And all in a couple of centuries.

        A group sailed the east passage 2 or three years ago with out to much difficulty. And the more intrepid from the UK sailing fraternity have done runs to Greenland. Nice photos of snow on deck.

      • Hind Abyad

        How’s that? Russian Empire sold Alaska to US in 1867.
        “A petition calling for Russia’s annexation of Alaska that was posted on the White House website gathered more than 35,000 signatures before it was cancelled. Many people still think that the Americans either stole Alaska from the Russians or leased it and did not return it. Despite the widespread myths, the deal was an honest one, and both sides had valid reasons to make it.”

        “Alexander Baranov cannily made a profitable share agreement with Americans – allowing the “Boston men” to share the risks as well as the profits. He also made an agreement (1809) with John Jacob Astor’s Pacific Fur Company.”

        • Rudy1947

          And Sarah Palin is grateful because she can see Russian on a clear day.

        • 5thDrawer

          Yes .. we know that it was a ‘Money Deal’ – and like Louisiana, so that wars could be funded and carried on.
          I’m taking the recent news of THIS century to heart.

          • Hind Abyad

            Me too i take This century to heart.
            In Wikipedia Alexander Boganov is “a great man”.
            Read his biography below.

          • Rudy1947

            The purchase of Alaska was a strategic move for the US to be between Britain and Russia.

          • 5thDrawer

            Didn’t like The Mounties overseeing things on the Gold Rush trail, eh? :-))

          • 5thDrawer

            A book to recommend for accuracy.
            “Many documents about Russian-America have never been translated, but their training and knowledge make it possible for them to read primary sources in the original languages. Their sources include the Yudin Collection and the Records of the Russian American Company, as well as all Baranov’s correspondence.”

          • Hind Abyad

            ‘Yudin’ Jew in Russian.
            A Russian dedicate his life stealing Russian territory for US. OK.. what else is new..
            “cannily made a profitable share agreement with Americans – allowing the “Boston men” to share the risks as well as the profits. He also made an agreement (1809) with John Jacob Astor’s Pacific Fur Company.”

          • Barry

            Not that you are a Jew hater or anything.

          • Matrix

            It was very well formulated!

            Now to our ‘language professor’ “I know…”, “Yudin is Jew in Russian.”

            Well, well her German friend (I know..a friend is visiting me during this week, she’s German live and work in Bruxelles. …) was on the go, Jüdin is (I presume you knew it) a german word referring to a Jewess.
            Jew in russian is ‘Yevrey’, ‘Zhid’ or ‘Iudey’ (Kyrgyz).

            Have myself mentioned to Abyad that she is obsessed with everything that touches and is about Jews.
            Altogether Jew-hater.

          • Hind Abyad

            Yudin is a Russian word! Bolshevism was created by Russian Khazar Atheists, Baltic region and Europe, no Bible Jews. So calling me ‘Jew hater’ makes no sense..

            Calling Palestinians ‘Pallies’ is Hate.
            Palestinians referred to as Arabs is Hate.
            Arabs are referred to as Muslims..no nationality..no ethnicity. ‘Palestinians don’t exist’. ‘Never existed’. Is Hate!
            You Hasbara impose open hatred on this site.

            “Lenin was heavily sponsored by the angloamericans and payed the debt by allowing the americans a huge offshore industrial region to produce entirely with and for the western capitalists. But unlike Trotsky Lenin turned out to be disobedient and a British agent plotted his assassination. Watch out for the disinfo-trolls who try to mess everything up by mixing in lies…”
            Peter Grafström

          • Barry

            No Bolshevism was created by elves. Everyone knows that.
            My point is that you bring up Jews in every article. It is tiresome.
            You are a Jew hater extraordinaire. And then you have the gall to lecture about hatred. Amazing.

          • Hind Abyad

            Excuse me?
            You bring up everything that’s not of “your likes”, even the truth. Even free speech.
            You’re in denial extraordinaire. And then you have the gall to lecture about hatred. Amazing.

            “The Bolsheviks, founded by Vladimir Lenin and Alexander Bogdanov, were by 1905 a major organization consisting primarily of workers under a democratic internal hierarchy governed by the principle of democratic centralism, who considered themselves the leaders of the revolutionary working class of Russia.
            Lenin revived his polemics against the Mensheviks,[95] who objected to his advocacy of violent expropriations and thefts such as the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery.[96] Lenin also became very critical of Bogdanov’s view that Russia’s proletariat had to develop a socialist culture in order to become a successful revolutionary vehicle. Instead, Lenin favoured a vanguard of socialist intelligentsia who would lead the working-classes in revolution[97]

            Although Bogdanov and Lenin holidayed together at Maxim Gorky’s villa in Capri in April 1908,[98] on returning to Paris, Lenin encouraged a split within the Bolshevik faction between his and Bogdanov’s followers, accusing the latter of deviating from Marxism.[99]….Wikipedia

          • Hind Abyad

            @Barry. Learn history
            “The 1907 Tiflis bank robbery, also known as the Yerevan Square expropriation,[1] was an armed robbery on 26 June 1907[a] in the city of Tiflis (now Georgia’s capital, Tbilisi)
            Tiflis branch of the State Bank of the Russian Empire.
            The attack killed forty people and injured fifty others, according to official archive documents. The robbers escaped with 341,000 rubles (equivalent to around US 3.4 million in 2008).The robbery was organized by a number of top-level Bolsheviks, including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Maxim Litvinov, Leonid Krasin, and Alexander Bogdanov, and executed by a gang of revolutionaries led by Stalin’s early associate Ter-Petrosian (Kamo).

            Because such activities were explicitly prohibited by the 5th Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP), the robbery and the killings caused outrage within the party against the Bolsheviks (a faction within the RSDLP). As a result, Lenin and Stalin tried to distance themselves from the robbery.”

            The events surrounding the incident and similar robberies split the Bolshevik leadership, with Lenin against Bogdanov and Krasin. Despite the success of the robbery and the large sum involved, the Bolsheviks could not use most of the large bank notes obtained from the robbery because their serial numbers were known to the police. Lenin conceived of a plan to have various individuals cash the large bank notes at once at various locations throughout Europe in January 1908, but this strategy failed, resulting in a number of arrests, worldwide publicity.” Wikipedia
            Photo of Bogdanov and Stalin.

          • Barry

            Nice copy paste. Very talented. Has nothing to do w anything, like all of your copy paste jobs. Cheers.

          • Hind Abyad

            Frustrated? Lean history or chut up, your one liners are irrelevant.
            Have a nice day. Paranoi Jeremiades

          • 5thDrawer

            To have a real accounting, it is necessary to have the words from at least 2 libraries, if not more, pulled together to paint the scene with accuracy. For more ancient history, it has also been necessary to combine several sciences to have the archeological record understood. It is probably extremely rare that one civilization succumbs to another, without helping to do itself in … as humans are wont to do. The one that creates the best flies in the ointment of the history books may not be found out for centuries … new ‘conclusions’ arise only for those who are willing to listen.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Sp7oavH74

          • Hind Abyad

            What i posted is recent history..the Tzar family graves were found.

          • 5thDrawer

            Archeology is getting a boost from ‘info-speed’ these days .. The Spaniards had to wait a year for a note to be sent and a reply made. 😉

          • Hind Abyad

            OK..i will watch it tomorrow, very late here..good night 😉

          • Hind Abyad

            Fascinating video i always wandered about the conquistadores, when i was 11-12 in Brasil.
            Never stops..Turkish Army devastates Kurdish offensive
            30/07/20160today