About 30 hostages being held in Sydney, Australia cafe, update

A police helicopter hovers over the Opera House after the building was evacuated. Photograph: ABC
A police helicopter hovers over the Opera House after the building was evacuated. Photograph: ABC

More than two dozen hostages are reportedly being held inside a central Sydney, Australia cafe where a black flag with white Arabic writing could be seen in the window, local television showed on Monday, raising fears of an attack linked to Islamist militants.

Live television footage showed patrons inside the Lindt Chocolate Café in Martin Place standing with their hands pressed against the windows. A black-and-white flag similar to those used by Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria was also visible.

A police spokeswoman said no injuries had been reported from the incident. Heavily armed officers were lined up outside the cafe, and a man with a backpack inside the cafe could be seen walking back and forth in front of the glass doors.

“We don’t know if this is politically motivated, although there are some indications it could be,” Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott told reporters at a news conference. “The point of politically motivated violence is to scare people out of being themselves … I would urge all Australians today to go about their business.”

Part of Martin Place, home to the Reserve Bank of Australia, commercial banks and close to the New South Wales (NSW) state parliament, was closed off by armed police.

“Specialist officers are attempting to make contact with those inside,” New South Wales Police said in a statement on the force’s official Facebook page.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper tweeted that Canadians’ thoughts and prayers are with those in Australia.

Sky Business quoted Lindt Australia CEO Steve Loane as saying there were “probably 30 customers” in the cafe.

australia hostages  lindt  cafe 1Abbott said he was being briefed by New South Wales Police and Australian Federal Police, and would leave it to them to provide operational details as they become available.

“The normal operation of business must go on,” Abbott said. “Our thoughts and prayers must above all go out to the individuals who are caught up in this.”

Zain Ali, the head of the Islamic Studies Research Unit at the University of Auckland, said it was difficult to read the message on the banner because media images showed only the lower part of the flag. But he believed it was the Shahada, or declaration of faith, largely because a black flag with white writing in a contemporary context often contains that message. He said he could make out the word “Muhammad.”

Ali said the Shahada translates as “There is no deity of worship except God [Allah], and Muhammad is the messenger of God.” It is considered the first pillar of Islam’s five pillars of faith, and has been used by groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS jihadists but wasn’t invented by them, Ali said.

SWAT team on site

This image taken from a live video feed shows police in Sydney in a standoff outside a cafe where hostages are being held. (Seven/ABC)
This image taken from a live video feed shows police in Sydney in a standoff outside a cafe where hostages are being held. (Seven/ABC)

Dozens of police including a SWAT team were setting up and a couple of hundred people were being held back by cordons.

Trains and buses were stopped and roads were blocked in the area, with train operators saying there had been a bomb threat at Martin Place. Airspace over the area has also been closed.

Staff at the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) are safe and accounted for, a spokeswoman said. The RBA headquarters in Martin Place was locked down with everyone safe inside.

An Australian Broadcasting Corporation reporter said gunfire had been heard at the scene, the BBC reported, but this has not been confirmed. Major landmarks in the city such as the Sydney Opera House have been evacuated.

U.S. consulate issues warning

The U.S. consulate issued a statement warning its citizens “of a security incident involving at least one armed person at Lindt Chocolate Café in Martin Place in Sydney. New South Wales and Australian Federal police are addressing the threat. Please avoid the area around Martin Place until further notice.”

Daily Mail Australia reported that just moments before the hostage situation at Martin Place began, police announced the arrest of a 25-year-old man from north-western Sydney as part of a major counter-terrorism investigation.

The Australian Federal Police apprehended the terror suspect at a home in Beecroft in Sydney’s leafy north-western suburbs this morning. Seven News identified the arrested man as Ali Al Talibi, but police would not confirm this information to Daily Mail Australia.

A NSW police spokeswoman said at the moment there was nothing to indicate a link between the two events.

Australia, which is backing the United States and its escalating action against Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, is on high alert for attacks by radicalized Muslims or by home-grown fighters returning from fighting in the Middle East.

CBC. CA

Update 1
: The Grand Mufti of Australia has issued a statement in which he condemns the siege in Martin Place.
“The Grand Mufti and the Australian National Imams Council condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part and in whole in Islam.
“His Eminence the Grand Mufti, the Australian National Imams Council and the Muslim community express their full support and solidarity with their victims and their families and aspire to a peaceful resolve to this calamity.”
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Lindt has issued a statement on the siege at its cafe in Sydney via its Facebook page.
“We would like to thank everyone for their thoughts and kind support over the current situation at the Lindt Chocolate Café at Martin Place. We are deeply concerned over this serious incident and our thoughts and prayers are with the staff and customers involved and all their friends and families.”

  • Maborlz Ez-Hari

    Dirty rotten coward mongrels are knocking on our doors, shove your beliefs up your arses and go back to the shit holes of Arabia where the sand flies enjoy your smell. The onus is on the Sunni moslems to wrap up This extremist fad and eliminate the growing resentment the west has towards their faith. As we see it and understandibly so, islam is a scourge on society and needs to be revised to suit today’s civil expectations. Otherwise go back to your place of origins and stay there. The hostages are innocent people who are working for a living and couldn’t give a rats asshole about some messenger or shahadadadadadadadada. Grab your AK’S and go home OR have a shower and use deodorant on your brains if you wish to stay.

  • Btru2u

    Those suggesting Islam creates extremism, it doesn’t.
    Invading , attacking and oppressing the Middle East , not to mention the racist marginalisation of Muslims in the west ,
    That will tend to do that.

    • Maborlz Ez-Hari

      There you go again shifting the blame on others instead of accepting the fact that extreme Islamic apples are the product of severe Islamic idealistic teachings. The only invading, oppressing and attacking going on in the middle east is by moslems of all denominations. When the west is exposed to your rotten and filthy ways such as the Lindt coffee shop today how do you expect them to react? Are they being racist and marginalising against moslems? Or should they not mention the beard, the flag, the head band, the identity of the fuckers involved? If you want to be true to anyone be true to yourself first then start speaking to members of the normal society. Until then admit your errors and sort out your bugs cos they are your responsibility not ours.

      • Btru2u

        we all knew this day could happen , when Tony Abott indirectly declared his support for Assad, and joined in the bandwagon of the killing, which mind you results in mainly mass civilian fatalities.
        But this is not worthy news of the western mass media propaganda machine.

        • Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Your a sick example of a human being, your clutching in desperation for any excuse to justify the acts of bastardry carried out by these extremist Islamic criminals. Instead you should be asking your clerics and your shieks to stand up and strongly condemn these acts that are ruining the Islamic image and stand shoulder to shoulder with all Australians not blame them for your standard religous practices. This is a pure act of indiscriminate terror you need to cease practising in peaceful countries.

        • Anti ISIS

          You are one sick SOB. This piece of shit in the coffee shop needs to be taken out asap and be an example to the rest of you animals which is if you try and bring your shit Australia, you will be dealt with accordingly. For once admit what these animals isis are doing is wrong. And stop trying to justify their satanic ways. WTF do these poor hostages have to do with what is going on overseas. Wake up you fool, for god sake

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Khayyy, a breath of fresh air.

          • Anti ISIS

            I can’t believe WTF is happening Mab. We fleed our war torn countries to leave that shit behind. Yet here we are witness what most in this country despise. I can not tell you how ashamed and embarrassed I fell at this very moment. May God protect each and every one of those hostages. Inshallah.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Nothing better than having a laugh or hanging out with our brothers from wherever they come from but the lack of respect and lack of sensitivity expressed by some of these people ruins the friendships and sourers the atmosphere. You cant expect people not to have a negative view of Islam if no one stands up against this behavior, then straight away some one blames Tony Abbott? No religion has a clean history but at the moment no religion has been subject to this amount of scrutiny and we can’t blame people for doing so.

          • Hannibal

            lol

      • TheUSequalsTheIS

        as far as i know u r a christian from the ME living in the US, but do not let the fact that u r a christian fool u into thinking that the westerners consider u as one of them. in their eyes u will be as low as any other middle easterner be it moslems or christians. they also dont even consider eastern europeans as real westerners eventhough most of those countries r EU and NATO members.

    • 5thDrawer

      I don’t see where a pile of people trying to get into Turkey out of Kobane relates to a theoretical ‘western marginalization’ which frankly doesn’t exist or hasn’t for many years – even when they begin bombing or shooting people in those countries they ‘escaped’ to. Other than that, they are no different than any other immigrant, who finds there is some adjustment of thought to be made because the life and style are different. And how could it be otherwise? It’s a different country! Maybe one should read the brochures before getting on a boat. In all of history immigrants have to work their asses off to become ‘part of’. That simple. It would be the same for ‘Lebanese’ falling into Brazil …. or Nunavut.
      If the guy couldn’t be a ‘Grand Ayatolla’ in Iran, why should he expect to be one in Australia???

      And don’t tell me that not allowing ‘Sharia Law’ is ‘marginalization’.
      A soldier stands on guard-duty at a Cenotaph in ‘Dress Uniform’ representing his fallen countrymen who gave lives for the society – albeit without a functional gun because no-one wants any accidents – and some brain-dead jerk-off mad at the whole world because he couldn’t make any adjustment in his own thinking runs up and kills him, then runs off to try the same elsewhere, still didn’t ‘marginalize’ the rest of the crowd his ‘belief’ was aligned with. Damn good thing, however, that someone has a loaded gun handy, to uphold a Law which says it’s ILLEGAL to Kill …. otherwise we’d have had to wait until the jerk ran out of bullets. But there ARE re-actions to the event, for it’s perceived implications.
      In the nicest way, we can also say, If you don’t like it here, you can go.

      As for that British Army pic you threw in, the ‘soldiers’ should have read the handbook of military rules before they signed up for the steady pay. Disobeying a command is the same as desertion. Especially in 1914. And for an example of the thought behind a question of ‘why’, one only has to see Iraq – when ISIS first floated in with few weapons – to know the answer.
      Either you become ‘Part Of’ …. or leave.
      No-body is stopping you from praying. My question is, What are you praying FOR?

  • cook2half

    Looks like a PLO terrorist attack

    • Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Don’t use this to your advantage, thats a cheap shot and doesn’t help no one. Australia is not israel and is a welcoming country to all peoples.

      • cook2half

        The Munich massacre was in Israel?

        • Maborlz Ez-Hari

          What’s your point?

          • cook2half

            Just considering all possibilities

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            These poofters are savage animals who don’t belong in a civil society, don’t use today’s incident to prop up the Israeli treatment of Palestinians.

          • cook2half

            I guess so

    • Hind Abyad

      ..!

      • Maborlz Ez-Hari

        That’s what I was thinking?

        • Hind Abyad

          no..that was a smile for cookie’s PLO up there..

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Thats what i was thinking.

  • Reasonableman

    I pray for the innocent families and of those innocent involved. I also pray for the innocent families in the middle east and the innocent involved. This is not a time for politics rather a time to spread peace and pray this luni gunmen lets these people go and hug their families.

    There demands are being met by the hostages propergating for them over social media. There demands will be louder if the couragesly give up the hostages and explain why where who what and how before a court.

    • Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Amen. Inshallah this is the outcome.

      • Reasonableman

        The perpetrator is known to police. He is mentally unfit.
        There has been talk about him in the community. This is his public profile.

        http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Haron

        • Anti ISIS

          I hope they kill the SOB and send him back to Iran in pieces.

          • Reasonableman

            Nah man so far no one has been killed, chillax. The guy has been pretty calm just make dua nobody gets hurt.

          • Anti ISIS

            Bro, I really can’t believe this is happening. This shit needs to stop. We live in the best country in the world and need to get along. I’m just disgusted with the whole situation.

          • Reasonableman

            Its unfortunate if I had the power I would swap myself for a hostage. Whats done is done though. Alhamdulilah every second we breath is something we should be thankful for.

            Goodnight.

          • Hind Abyad

            The young guy holding the flag at the window looks Asian, Himalayan.. something like that

          • 5thDrawer

            If Australia is anything like Canada, there’s more than 157 brands.
            But It’s ended now ….
            http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-30485355

            Nothing but interminable ‘talking’ left. :-( (or is that ‘dialogues’ .. hmmm)
            (Impressive sound-track on the video …)

          • Hind Abyad

            I can’t presume who’s the hostage in that picture, i thought the terrorist was holding the flag, sorry

          • Hannibal

            Why to Iran? They have a country now called IS :P lol

          • 5thDrawer

            Won’t be long before IS, WAS. :-)

          • Hannibal
          • 5thDrawer

            Just keep lining them up, eh?

          • Anti ISIS

            Oh 5th, wont that be a dream come true.

          • Hind Abyad

            WAS, IS. :-)

          • Hind Abyad

            Oh no, i hope IS has no country…

        • Maborlz Ez-Hari

          I remember this guy. He is not the full quid but he can be coaxed into a surrender inshallah and it ends well.

          • Hind Abyad

            I don’t understand anything..why a Shia goes to ISIS if ISIS kill Shia..anyway i’ve had it, going out.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Have fun give coffee a miss.

          • Hind Abyad

            Ma befham ktir il Inglizi (give ahweh a miss)…

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Yeah like skip the coffee.

          • Hind Abyad

            and why i should skip the ahweh..giving me orders?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            No no not an order, just advice but it was intended as a joke but it flew way above and is long gone. Maybe next time.

          • Hind Abyad

            I don’t understand American slang..jokes:)

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Lucky you.

          • 5thDrawer

            I have noticed … although you managed to get a couple of your own in, over time. ;-)))

          • Hind Abyad

            You talking that i can make jokes?

          • 5thDrawer

            Well .. a couple. ;-)

          • Reasonableman

            His not isis or nusra just a thug.

          • Hind Abyad

            Yes, i read about it.

          • Anti ISIS

            Ain’t that the truth.

        • sweetvirgo

          Good Morning Reasonableman. First and foremost inshallah nobody is killed or get hurts during this crisis. I read the link you posted and of course there is so much information coming out as the hostage has been identified. My question is what did you read that made you think he is unfit? This man definitely has issues but his issues has nothing to do with a chemical imbalance. What he has done in the past and now is a clear reflection that he is jihad plain and simple. He is nothing but a criminal who is pure evil.

          • 5thDrawer

            Of course sweetie … (shhh) .. we could say they’re all mentally unfit. ;-)
            But reading the ‘stats’ that Reasonable supplied, you have to wonder who would actually give the guy a gun …. right?

          • sweetvirgo

            LOL….very true. It’s just so disturbing to see innocent people being a victim of these Islamists. I’m sick of them. And then you get some people who are on this site defending these pigs.

          • Reasonableman

            Good morning to you too :-) glad its all over the hostages deserved better would be interesting to see the report on who shot who though.

            My respect to your opinion. I had a think about it and all I could think of is that what I know is very different then what I can prove and I shouldn’t of have posted something I can’t prove. I guess we can say that just how the community identified and dobbed the gunmen into the police they also knew he was crazy. That is up up to your research now.

            Now back to copping flack for what happened yesterday at work have a good day.

          • Anti ISIS

            Good Morning Reasonable, I have a suggestion for you, Do what I have done a wear a helmet and a bullet proof vest.

          • Reasonableman

            LoL. Walking around these areas I always wear those even carry spares

          • 5thDrawer

            (you must look really weird on the nude beach …. one is supposed to blend in …)

          • sweetvirgo

            Hey Reasonable…go kick some tiza ;))))

          • 5thDrawer
          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            We can micro examine the details as much as we like and we should do so to the smallest degree, but the reality is the incident is a side effect of twisted interpretations of Islam itself. If the result of investigations lead us to the conclusion that the deceased was caught in cross fire or at the hands of the police then by no means is any officer at fault but the deranged sheik himself. We need to support our police not point the finger at them and accuse them off the death and let the twisted hate preacher escape the blame he has single handedly bought on himself and members of his community. Police are human and we all get things wrong but the situation arose through the fault of the wicked, twisted cleric who took matters into his own already tarnished hands.

  • Btru2u

    Also as predicted the haters will thrive on this and hope for a bloody end. They wish to destroy the good will between the majority of good muslims in the community. I hope the good folk can rise above this.

    • Anti ISIS

      Tell me Btru2u, according to what reasonable has posted, this animal terrorist is a Shiite. Will this change your mind now you know this. You see for me a terrorist is a terrorist irrespective of what religion he or she is. To hell will all fucking terrorist.

      • Btru2u

        A madman is a madman , no matter what religion or sect he claims to belong to .
        Unfortunately this will take the spotlight off the atrocities committed by the enemies of humanity .
        May This adverse event be a cause for greater unity between people of all faiths.

        • Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Wow, I don’t believe my eyes.

          • Btru2u

            This guys emotions from his past experiences and events, had been so magnified , that his logic had become distorted , thus becoming insane,
            For those who think that he was a jihadist, the rules of jihad are very clear. Do not fight non combatants, children or kill trees (ie environment).
            Acting the way he did is against the very teaching of Islam.

          • 5thDrawer

            As is isis.

          • Anti ISIS

            Yet you support ISIS who have pretty much done everything that goes against Islam.

          • Hind Abyad

            Do you know about Btru2u kind of Jihad he’s talking about? It’s the contrary with ISIS it’s Abd el Wahhab teachings.
            I read about him to understand the crazy Wahhabi sect.

          • Btru2u

            Please show where I have declared my support for Isis..
            I am anti assad, , i am not pro ISIS, I also don’t know what to believe in this propaganda war, so I remain on the sidelines until things are clear,
            I am pro KHILAFAH RASHIDAH, (RIGHTLY GUIDED KHILAFAH),
            I want Freedom of religion in a rightly guided Islamic super state.
            Wahabi is not a sect or religion. it is a derogatory western and Shiite term describing the man who revived the old and true message of the prophet, when it went astray 100 years ago. At that time people used to worship graves, which is also against the teachings of islam. a practise which some of the mentioned people still do today.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ok btru2u, you don’t support Isis or any other violent groups who wage terror acts on innocent people, but there have been numerous occasions where you give reasons why they do it instead of condemning their actions. I know you feel like you have to always defend Islam but if we sound like we are anti Moslem you need to see where people are coming from and be understanding of why they feel that way. Trust me most people cant be bothered hating for long it uses up a lot of energy but the constant issues society is facing from these groups keeps the image in the back of our minds that Islam equals anguish, fear, terror, and many other negative emotions. Take this as an honest opinion most people in the west don’t harbour vengeance, hatred or any other bad will to minorities living amongst them infact it’s the Arabs who think little of them and their culture. If people want to worship graves let it be on their conscience, if they want to worship a flag or stone or picture or statue let God deal with them, worry about how you think God wants you to do to please him.

          • Btru2u

            Fair call , you have some valid points. And it is hard not to hate with all the evil that’s going on in the world. That’s the challenge that we face that will test our character , to see if we can rise above the evil.
            yesterday and today Australians ware shocked the actions of a single madman.
            To the Aussies credit they will turn this evil event into a cause

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Peace brother.

          • Anti ISIS

            Oh please, not condemning their acts and justifying why they are so brutal is just the same as saying you out right support them. This is something you have constantly done when it comes to isis.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Yallah Anti, we all have our own version of what’s right and who’s wrong. These differences exist in the same households at times what do you do? As long as we don’t harm each other the debate is fun.

          • Hind Abyad

            you call this debate ..fun?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Were here arent we, no one has a gun to your head you can leave if you like. How many times have you looooooool’ed even some of the assholes are humorists at times.

          • Hind Abyad

            Anti ISIS is not an (asshole), just saying..and no, this discussion is supposed to be serious, everything is fun for you. Please do not bother answering old posts of mine..
            maa salame

          • 5thDrawer

            Well, after everything is known and said about the incident in a story, and all the facts are out there bleeding onto the sand, the serious side becomes a bore. Most of it’s been said before, and wargamers gave us all the prophetic backgrounders. What’s left??
            We’d need to switch topics anyway. Might as well take pot-shots at each other. :-)))

          • Hind Abyad

            My post was a day ago, i don’t know why he’s replying to an outdated discussion..looks like “a pot-shot” :)).. but when it happened it was perplexing..

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            So what if it was a day ago, it was still there to be read they don’t dissapear. What’s perplexing is you getting offended by replies and people having FUN.

          • ¶•

            Her Look is Wild –
            Her look is wild.
            Her look is Manly.
            Her voice is Manly.
            Her appearance is Manly.
            She scares Manly Men.
            Her name is Hind.
            Her hair completely hides her head.
            Take a peek.
            (Show no surprise.)
            You cannot even see her eyes.
            Oh no, it must be as I feared.
            Her mouth is covered by her beard.
            How does she breathe?
            How does she eat?
            How does she write hilarious posts?
            How does she make out right or wrong?
            How does she see to cross the street?
            Perhaps she can’t see people stare
            and cannot find the barber chair.
            Until she makes a barber stop
            she will remain less woman than mop.
            Her look is wild.
            Her name is Hind but she not Butch, is she!?

          • 5thDrawer

            Dork.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Dont be creating scandal, i didnt say anti is an asshole.

          • Hind Abyad

            Sorry..

          • Hind Abyad

            1-He was out on bail after allegedly killing his wife and all sort of crazy things..no one in his right mind would have let him out…who paid the bail??
            2- Sheik is Arabic not Iranian, he converted to Sunni
            http://spectator.org/blog/61245/sydney-terrorist-self-styled-iranian-sheik-out-bail

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            He was a banana before he converted to Sunni, why are you so protective of the Shiite? Even if he converted to Christianity he would still be a scum from Iran. Not that Iranians are scum just making a point. Him getting bail is the fault of the judicial system that’s so weak in this place. Time for a change.

          • 5thDrawer

            And when the ‘system’ tries to tighten up some of the rules, the ‘bleeding hearts’ take over and try to flip it back … or someone yells ‘discrimination’ again. Society bounces back and forth and never finds a balanced middle approach.
            But for a ‘gone out to lunch’ brain, there should be no middle. Wrong is wrong.
            And ‘society’ can put it away safely without having to kill it – although, that’s tax dollars, and one main reason for attempts to just supply a drug to the crazies. The institutions cost a lot to run.

            Hind just can’t imagine the guy is out loose, or has been such a religious flip-flop.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            A gone out for lunch brain usually returns just in time to prevent these acts, even my own brain has wondered off at times, but it’s the brains with the runs that get shit all over the place.

          • Hind Abyad

            Don’t worry, it won’t.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            does that mean that mohammad atta was a german scum?? or is there some kind of double standard that must be applied here as usual when it comes to such matters?
            of course the answers r known. mohammad atta has always been refered to as muslim scum not a scum from germany so long live double standards

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Double standards is double standards, the only time it is permissible in my opinion is when a guy can flirt around town and good on him but a lady who does the same is you know held in a little less esteem. All other instances of double standards especially relating to religious debates should be avoided.

          • Hind Abyad

            He was a pineapple for all i care before he converted to Sunni, are you serious? You’re less genius than i thought.
            He converted just one month ago, he’s insane. What credence i give for the converting.. bla bla..?? Hmar (inta)
            I asked who was crazy enough to give him bail, the system? Who payed and how much $$$.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Your the only genius here it seems you have the goods and we are hameer, keep being one sided your as bad as the extremists even if your on the opposite end of the same stick.

          • Hind Abyad

            Really I am? So you think like him..deblablrry..ex-two dot man? You think i didn’t have enough from his filth?
            No man stood by me a woman called a Butch Mr Misogynist, i had to be my man.

            ¶• to doron 7 days ago

            doron, why you entertain hypocrites like her n her kind when you very well know they don’t care about Muslims, Jews,… leave aside Palestine in Peace ?? Their heroes are ha, ass, Iran, basijs, fatso, Isis,…

            ¶• to doron 5 days ago

            Lol, so very True…you know her quite well don’t you. People like her, Mab n rest of their kind in here are the worst kind of Islamophobes Jewophobes Hypocrites Bigots… !! Don’t you feel sorry for them, when you see they live with so much hatred bigotry hypocrisy…??
            It seems so obvious they love n enjoy being all that !!
            I can bet you that she (Butch) n her fellow haters will deny n redirect it back like usual !!

            ¶• to doron 3 days ago

            Just like you said, seems (you know who) don’t like to be called a Butch, Islamophobe, Jewophobe, Hypocrite, Bigot, Christian Zionist, Right Wing Extremist, …

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Im not bothered what people say, it won’t get under my skin. Sometimes i am an Islamophobe, jewaphobe and im always a homophobe and misogynists. Big deal its just letters and words on my screen no need to get your knickers in a knot. Give it back but the art is in staying level headed.

          • Hind Abyad

            I don’t fell this here, what your doing with the fanatic Salafist Against me is low class, not art in staying level headed..

          • ¶•

            Carry on with your Hind Games…hope you touched based or say tried Hind Gaming with them all…

          • ¶•

            Her Look is Wild –
            Her look is wild.
            Her look is Manly.
            Her voice is Manly.
            Her appearance is Manly.
            She scares Manly Men.
            Her name is Hind.
            Her haior completely hides her head.
            Take a peek.
            (Show no surprise.)
            You cannot even see her eyes.
            Oh no, it must be as I feared.
            Her mouth is covered by her beard.
            How does she breathe?
            How does she eat?
            How does she write hilarious posts?
            How does she make out right or wrong?
            How does she see to cross the street?
            Perhaps she can’t see people stare
            and cannot find the barber chair.
            Until she makes a barber stop
            she will remain less woman than mop.
            Her look is wild.
            Her name is Hind but she not Butch, is she!?

          • Hind Abyad

            Hind to ¶•

            Your mama Look is Wild –
            Her look is wild.
            Her look is Manly.
            Her voice is Manly.
            Her appearance is Manly.
            She scares Manly Men.
            Her name is 3 dot woman
            Her son hair completely hides his head.
            Take a peek.
            (Show no surprise.)
            You cannot even see her eyes.
            Oh no, it must be as I feared.
            Her mouth is covered by her beard.
            How does she breathe?
            How does she eat?
            How does she write conman posts?
            How does she make out right or wrong?
            How does she see to cross the street?
            Perhaps she can’t see people stare
            and cannot find the barber chair.
            Until she makes a barber stop
            She will remain less man than mop.
            Her look is empty
            Her name is guest majoos dblabla mama

            She made a mess when he exited

          • dblarry

            Iran. You should know more than anyone that he was their very own and Iran cares about their dogs, ask Hezbollah, Assad, Isis, Shiite terrorists, etc.
            They (Iran and its dogs) are the International brand of terrorism.

          • Hind Abyad

            ¶• to doron 7 days ago

            doron, why you entertain hypocrites like her n her kind when you very well know they don’t care about Muslims, Jews,… leave aside Palestine in Peace ??

            (Their heroes are ha, assad, Iran, basijs, fatso, Isis,…)

          • Reasonableman

            Because we love ya ill help you out.
            He is a self proclaimed sheikh not a real shiekh.
            He is self proclaimed ayatolla not a real ayatollah.

          • dblarry

            Is she a Shiite? She seems so hell bent to twist that the Takfiri Iranian Shiite Ayatullah Terrorist was not an Iranian and a Shiite.

          • 5thDrawer

            No, Christian. That’s why she can’t comprehend the ‘backgrounds’ , and none of us can really appreciate all those Fighting Tribes. One needs to live that dream. ;-)

          • dblarry

            Hope you are right. Never you see a good Christian vouch so much for hezbollah, assad, iran, alcaida, isis, etc. Are all Christians like her pro Iran and Shiites terrorists like Hezbollah, etc.? No one can except for those who are living in them.

          • 5thDrawer

            Hind is Pro-Palestine. And we know Palestinians are a mix of all the three main ‘one-god’ theories …. so it can be a confusion, especially if a guy flips only one sect.
            If he likes it so much, as Reasonable’s backgrounder says, then why not a quantum leap to Christianity??
            Beyond that, I might venture that we know what ‘Guilt Trips’ can do to a mind … and the ‘Ultimate Guiit Trip’ could be found in the ‘God-Belief’ confusions …. where there is sincere doubt, but a feeling that you can’t doubt or something bad will happen to you.
            In that great Fear of Ungodliness people become what they fear the most. ;-)

          • dblarry

            But how can a Christian who is pro Iran and Shiite Terrorists be pro Palestine and not a Zionist Christian?
            Does she not vouch for Iran’s terrorist proxies like Hezbollah, Assad, Alcaida, isis, etc. the same way like she did for that dead Iranian Takfiri Shiite Ayatullah terrorist?
            It’s really confusing and making Christians like her Zionists like you said. Then they become like what the world fear the most an Iranian Takfiri Shiite Ayatullah terrorist.

          • 5thDrawer

            I just hit the beach naked, listen to the waves, and sip a fine scotch.
            Dark chocolate at night, perhaps …. ;-)
            AND … just in case … a little prayer that the sun will come up tomorrow.

          • dblarry

            Don’t forget to ask her prior eating the Dark Chocolate. If not you could make the Shiite Ayatullah in her go I-ran-ian.

          • 5thDrawer

            Oh, yes, indeed … must …. always. :-))
            (sometimes, from the knees …. ;-) )

          • Hind Abyad

            Have a Merry Christmas anyway Drawer..we see he has no respect for Eid el Said.

          • Hind Abyad

            It’s ex-guest-majoos, ex-two dot man..again.. after me Non-Stop, I’m his only subject no need to say he’s stalking me, his ‘dblarry’ new discus is 10 posts old. Can you ask that simplistic sectarian low IQ brain if not calling people “Shiits”, means pro-Iranian..

          • Hind Abyad

            All this about me, for a new comer?
            It’s ex-guest, ex-majoos, ex- two dot man, I’m his obsession. He goes around this site complaining to everybody..i would appreciate if you stop taking the liberty of talking behind my back with the sick sectarian bigot stalker.
            His new discus”dblarry” is just 10 posts old. I don’t answer his insults anymore, the last one was ” You Shiit Butch”.

            Explain to that low life low IQ misogynist that because i don’t call Iranian Shiits, it doesn’t mean I’m not a Christian, that’s disgusting.. he has the most vile dirty language from the gutter, that i have ever seen on YaLibnan since the moderator retired. Also i advised him to write a letter of complaint to YaLibnan and leave my friends alone..

          • dblarry

            Don’t know what you yapping about? Dont even know you or them. How can a new comer in one instant become them soon in another? Seems you are mentally challenged like that dead Iranian Shiite Takfiri Ayatullah Terrorist. No difference whatsoever. Anyways, if we take your logic then every person who likes Iran, Hezbollah, Isis, Assad, Shiite terrorists, their International brand of Terrorism, Christian / any Zionists, etc. is and must be “Hind”!!
            It’s seems your logic fits well in generalizing and assuming when it comes to people like you.
            It’s blind obvious that you are a Sunni Muslim Hater.

          • Hind Abyad

            Will you get the hell off my back? Christ…Shitt…Sunni..Wahhabi ..GET AWAY FROM ME.
            If there’s not a mini-man on this site, that can talk to an insufferable miserable lonely Kalb that’s following me, after all the outrages i endured from you barabie and Malmequer.

            I was here before you, go to hell if you don’t like it, I’m not sectarian not extremist i was raised to have some class, unlike you people dirt from the gutters that calls me
            “Shiit BUTCH”!! I have to endure your endless stalking violating my posts, meddling in my conversations, interfering in every single post i make, complaining to everybody about my shitt this, shitt that, also a lot of labeling against Malborlz.
            So i will be the man. FUCK YOU!!

          • dblarry

            I don’t know what’s your history with them but you really seem mentally deranged. May be its your illusion that there is only one like him or few honest souls like them who dislike Iran’s International Terrorism, Hezbollah, Isis, Assad, Takfiris, Khawarijis, Shiite Terrorists, etc. then you are living in “Hindland” as they are in Billions.

            Now to your unneeded profanity, it won’t be wise to stoop below your level but would be only FAIR to return the favor as you or anyone just can’t use profanity, abuse, threat, etc. people without any retribution. So FUCK YOU but who would!! ? GO TO YOUR BUTCH MOTHER you mentally deranged Sunni Muslim Hater !!!!

          • Hind Abyad

            already the 20th post of your new discuss, yet another useless new name each time i tell you; you can change names but the blood thirsty vampire vomiting his Salafist hate discourse don’t change..

          • Hind Abyad

            ¶• is no where but the fool up-votes bulbberrys posts.

          • 5thDrawer

            Too much & You escalated it …..

          • ¶•

            No need to waste your energy on “Yalibnan’s Jester”. By now you may have noticed that she calls everyone who hates Iran, Hezbollah, Assad, Isis, Shiite Terrorists, … the names of those people who she can’t stand. She assumes anyone who are honest like them to be them. It’s like her vs them. If you don’t agree and side with her then you are them. She can’t comprehend that there could be people who stand for Truth and likes to expose Iran, Hezbollah, Assad, Shiite Terrorists, Christian Zionists,… She did the same which she did with you. Like you noticed in such a short while being on here that she is just another Hypocrite, Bigot, Liar, Sectarian Maniac, Islamophobe, Sunni Muslim Hater, Jewophobe, … but you begin to feel sorry for her that she has to lead such a Multi Personality life.
            You will soon see she will try to brand us as them.
            Anyways you can’t get angry at “Yalibnan’s Jester” !!!

          • dblarry

            Yes you are right. Thank You !!!

          • 5thDrawer

            You guys keep teaching the words, you’re going to hear them coming back at ya.

          • dblarry

            It seems like everyone has been telling her that…sigh…but may be she don’t like to listen.
            Thanks for noticing but seems like she will keep doing it again n again n again… !! She thinks she is being smart by using such silly ploys. It’s obvious she likes to play victim n cry about how she is being treated to her assumed n so called friends but sure people who know her knows very well that she is always the Instigator not the victim which she tries n likes to portray !!

          • Hind Abyad

            Yawnn…

          • Hind Abyad

            He took away one guest.. what an influenseable specie..

          • Hind Abyad

            2 guest likes and two dots, me myself and I..:)

            That’s what they are capable of.
            http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/17/390705/230-bodies-found-in-syria-mass-grave/

          • ¶•

            Who?? Anyways it seems you meant…Hindafist, HindButch, and HindYalibnan’sCircusJester !!!
            No wonder that’s what they are capable of, LAUGHTER !!!

          • Hind Abyad

            how influenseable, he took away dblablly and fixed things up now…hhh..

          • ¶•

            Hope you Enjoyed the Laugh, So Long until next time, dear Hindafist, Yalibnan’s Circus Jester !!!

          • Hind Abyad

            what an influenceable specie, he deleted his dedblabla and rewrote as 2 little dotties .bahaha..:)))

          • Hind Abyad

            What a Broadway comedy..:))

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Go Hind, wow dont want to be in your way when your pissed. No wonder why there are no more real men around these days they too scared of our angry sisters. Letting off some steam aye.

          • Hind Abyad

            No wonder there are no more real women around these days, they are surrounded by too feeble men..they don’t feel as men .. sorry i feel as a real woman that can make piglets of little men, they have to stand up so i don’t feel pity for them.

          • Hind Abyad
          • 5thDrawer

            Great Link …. but I see one of their problems, in the typically ‘over-flowery’ language which may have appeared in their promotional advertising.
            “They came from their schools driven by a love of music, dancing, and singing to follow up on their rigorous and persistent training under the management of this self-made artist [Ismail Ojeili], and worshipper at the altar of art, …..”
            (Large Gasp from ‘Purists’)
            OOooopsie. They should know no-one is allowed to worship anything, especially at an altar …. only killing of lambs is allowed on altars. :-)))))
            (or if you really want a favour, an Ox)

          • ¶•

            Hmmm some Manly words there, no wonder they were right !!

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Oink oink baby.

          • Hind Abyad

            Yes barabie

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I think you need a break.

          • Hind Abyad

            You say oink oink baby? You need a break..

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Your right, time to move on from this typically overdone topic and start fresh on a new sorry.

          • Hind Abyad

            ma behke inglizi, shou haida “new sorry”..

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Story new story like a different article.

          • Hind Abyad

            That’s what dear Drawer said, but no, you were not in accord..

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ive never seen your mail box honey and i don’t intend to.

          • Hind Abyad

            I think you needed a break (Oink Oink?) what’s that…

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Beats your black chocolate. Khalinie eshtaklic bye.

          • Hind Abyad

            ..bye.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Whats with the dots? Is it morse code for “I want you” ?

          • Hind Abyad

            haha you’re funny, did you read halak up there?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ashou ‘halek up there’?

          • Hind Abyad

            i don’t want to remember bad times like…oinoink..ok?
            Hali mniha, merci.

          • Hind Abyad

            Share ..ashou?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            ‘Share’ yanni there’s enough for everyone.

          • Hind Abyad

            Blease be more clear..

          • Hind Abyad

            Blease be more clear..my post disappeared..

          • Hind Abyad

            hmmm.. dbubllrry retook his ¶• name, you’re his best convert

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            He must be good to convert me. I didn’t even realise he must have a tiny donga.

          • ¶•

            Falling for her games, are we?? BTW, how would you know??…oh I forgot…oops…Misogynist…LOL

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Do you think i fell for her games, ive been playing for a while now she needs to get up pretty early to get one over me. If i sound soft that’s only because i am, if i prefer to be friends with people doesn’t mean i won’t speak my mind, but when conversing with a she-male or shim or hind you need to offer them room to allow them to feel good about themselves. Poor creatures hold themselves in high regard but there’s no harm with that.

          • ¶•

            Her Look is Wild –
            Her look is wild.
            Her look is Manly.
            Her voice is Manly.
            Her appearance is Manly.
            She scares Manly Men.
            Her name is Hind.
            Her hair completely hides her head.
            Take a peek.
            (Show no surprise.)
            You cannot even see her eyes.
            Oh no, it must be as I feared.
            Her mouth is covered by her beard.
            How does she breathe?
            How does she eat?
            How does she write hilarious posts?
            How does she make out right or wrong?
            How does she see to cross the street?
            Perhaps she can’t see people stare
            and cannot find the barber chair.
            Until she makes a barber stop
            she will remain less woman than mop.
            Her look is wild.
            Her name is Hind but she not Butch, is she!?

          • Hind Abyad

            Hind to ¶•

            Your mama Look is Wild –
            Her look is wild.
            Her look is Manly.
            Her voice is Manly.
            Her appearance is Manly.
            She scares Manly Men.
            Her name is 3 dot woman
            Her son hair completely hides his head.
            Take a peek.
            (Show no surprise.)
            You cannot even see her eyes.
            Oh no, it must be as I feared.
            Her mouth is covered by her beard.
            How does she breathe?
            How does she eat?
            How does she write conman posts?
            How does she make out right or wrong?
            How does she see to cross the street?
            Perhaps she can’t see people stare
            and cannot find the barber chair.
            Until she makes a barber stop
            She will remain less man than mop.
            Her look is empty
            Her name is guest majoos dblabla mama

            She made a mess when he exited

          • ¶•

            Who?? Anyways, Lol…no wonder where Hind got it from, her Mama !! Is she a he-she too, geez it’s understood !?!

          • Hind Abyad

            Saker boozak.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I dont get on here to do kindergarten playground duties between you and your friends pumpkin. If you guys are calling each other names like bitch, butch or whatever your complaining to the wrong person cos maborlz really don’t care. I don’t talk about no one let alone girls like you. To answer your question, no you don’t look like a butch but you sound like a butch ‘saker bouzak’?, ‘go to hell’?
            Ciao bella, the sooner the better.

          • Hind Abyad

            You deserved what i said.. i was unable to discus anything loosing my time defending myself – BY MYSELF from this maniac stalking, interfering in my posts, meddling in my conversations.. no one encouraged him, except doron, it’s cheep persecuting the only woman here.. very cheep.
            I never addressed him so started his sik “campaign” posting all over the place, mendaciously seeking others preaching his sick sectarian hatred i despised, inversing it on me..till the Butch thing. I certainly didn’t need anyone to Encourage this, never expected you (to whom i never did anything wrong), to confide and talk against me in my back..
            You were the only one to do this..(beside Doron:)), i couldn’t recognize your sense of justice anymore.
            I was hurt. That’s the human condition..mysterious always surprising

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Hind don’t take things so personal, mud gets thrown in here it always has as far as I remember. If you get a bit on you it’s no big deal throw some back. In all honesty I don’t know who that third person is, if it’s a guy or a girl, if It’s a Jew or a Moslem or Christian really I don’t care. Go back and read the offending posts you will find you’ve blown things out of proportion. In general when people continuosly pick at you it’s usually a sign of jealousy or envy so take it as a compliment however, your reactions encourage them to keep it going.
            Finally, like I always say Stay beaudiful baby.

          • Hind Abyad

            What about what you said..

            “Do you think i fell for her games, ive been playing for a while now she needs to get up pretty early to get one over me. If i sound soft that’s only because i am, if i prefer to be friends with people doesn’t mean i won’t speak my mind, but when conversing with a she-male or shim or hind you need to offer them room to allow them to feel good about
            themselves. Poor creatures hold themselves in high regard but there’s no harm with that.”

            I’m not in mood for ¶• Islamic hatred on Christmas..

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Poor Moslems getting mud thrown at them cos of me, sorry guys. Merry Christmas Hind.

          • Hind Abyad

            i never threw mud at anyone…except Zionists

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You know if we ever get married we will be inviting everyone on this blog.

          • Hind Abyad

            Majnoun :)))

          • 5thDrawer

            You better !! :-)))))

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            5th is the best man.

          • Hind Abyad

            Ya haram, rouh maa sahbak majnoun metlo

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            El ashab ktar, when you are a majnoun.

          • Hind Abyad

            ha ha

          • ¶•

            Playing Hind games…hmmm. Who?? Are you not !?? Anyways, please don’t go Butchy…oops Manly on us.
            Like the ones from Californian…interesting.

          • Hind Abyad

            Go to hell shartmout

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You make a good caliph.

          • Hind Abyad

            that’s old.

          • Hind Abyad

            I said that’s old, humm.. my post disappeared.

          • 5thDrawer

            (my lady-friend says charmouta … hmmm …)

          • Hind Abyad

            ..i was dishonoured not because of it the 2 dotiot.. but because of a friend.
            Sharmouta is not for men.

          • MaImequer0

            Wow sweetie, you were ‘dishonoured’ simply for being yourself. ☻

          • Hind Abyad

            You are hateful, unsufferable man not doing Sunnis a favor and frankly.. i don’t care about crazed Islamism as for crazed Zionism, Rabbis and Salafists scare me..you’re scaring

          • dblarry

            Yawnnn…what??

          • 5thDrawer

            Thought I would save you a few words this time. Sorry. :-/

          • Hind Abyad

            :))).. good bye

          • Hind Abyad

            Two dot is no were to be seen, yet he up votes dbublberry.

          • 5thDrawer

            Need some Extra AMMO ??? :-))))

          • Hind Abyad

            I didn’t see that..phhhhhaha hh.. can not stop laughing we call them “commères” in French, there is one like them comères here..

          • Hind Abyad

            “Because we love ya ill help you out”??
            You just made a very unfriendly remark, i used to respect you my dear Daddy Reasonableman, i know:
            “He is self proclaimed Sheik not a real Chiekh”.
            “He is a self proclaimed ayatollah not a real ayatolla”.

            His name is inspired from an Iranian story, “The Iron Sheik” from the times of the Shah, t was all over the media yesterday. Thank you and your friend ex-guest ex-majoos dblablabarry

          • Reasonableman

            Don’t jump the gun. I was just being friendly for a change and trying to keep reviving the chat and information because its something so close to home.

            It’s ok I learned my lesson I won’t joke with you. Have a good one

          • Hind Abyad

            Thank you Reasonableman i respect you, sorry for misunderstanding:))

          • Reasonableman

            No need to be sorry, thankyou for understanding

          • ¶•

            Her Look is Wild –
            Her look is wild.
            Her look is Manly.
            Her voice is Manly.
            Her appearance is Manly.
            She scares Manly Men.
            Her name is Hind.
            Her hair completely hides her head.
            Take a peek.
            (Show no surprise.)
            You cannot even see her eyes.
            Oh no, it must be as I feared.
            Her mouth is covered by her beard.
            How does she breathe?
            How does she eat?
            How does she write hilarious posts?
            How does she make out right or wrong?
            How does she see to cross the street?
            Perhaps she can’t see people stare
            and cannot find the barber chair.
            Until she makes a barber stop
            she will remain less woman than mop.
            Her look is wild.
            Her name is Hind but she not Butch, is she!?

          • Hind Abyad

            Hind to ¶•

            Your mama Look is Wild –
            Her look is wild.
            Her look is Manly.
            Her voice is Manly.
            Her appearance is Manly.
            She scares Manly Men.
            Her name is 3 dot woman
            Her son hair completely hides his head.
            Take a peek.
            (Show no surprise.)
            You cannot even see her eyes.
            Oh no, it must be as I feared.
            Her mouth is covered by her beard.
            How does she breathe?
            How does she eat?
            How does she write conman posts?
            How does she make out right or wrong?
            How does she see to cross the street?
            Perhaps she can’t see people stare
            and cannot find the barber chair.
            Until she makes a barber stop
            She will remain less man than mop.
            Her look is empty
            Her name is guest majoos dblabla, mama

            She made a mess when he exited

          • ¶•

            Lol…no wonder where Hind got it from, her Mama !! Is she a he-she too, geez it’s understood !?!

          • Hind Abyad

            Hind to ¶•
            Lol…no wonder where 2dotman got it from, his mama Is he a he-she, geez it’s understood !!
            Homos are very much attached to their momy !!

          • ¶•

            Hehehe…Lol…no wonder where Hindafist, “Yalibnan’s Circus Jester” got it from, her mama who is a he-she, geez !! Butch’s are very much attached to their mommy !!

          • Hind Abyad

            sorry parrot, i never say Lol…geez..
            never said Butch except for you to stuff it.

          • Hind Abyad

            I’m sorry, it’s really because of this person your friend stalking me.

          • ¶•

            So At-last you admitted that you are the one and only “Yalibnan’s Circus Jester” !!!
            Don’t worry no one will or can take your, “Yalibnan’s Circus Jester” Job !!! It is and will remain yours until Yalibnan… !!!

          • Reasonableman

            Umm hi? Thanks for sharing the webpage.
            I believe they are more neurotic then average. I don’t believe you can be born racist or gay so to speak. We are all different yet all the same.

          • Hind Abyad

            True, it’s what the study say we’re not born racist, it’s the environment.. (family).. (childhood)..my family was snobbish, racist, i couldn’t discuss with them they lacked intelligence, so now i go crazy when i meet people like them..

          • 5thDrawer

            I guess, now, he’s a self-proclaimed martyr. ;-)

          • Reasonableman

            He’d be busier then a cucumber in a womens jail with 72 self proclaimed women :-)

          • Reasonableman

            Who Created This Character “Man Haron Monis” the Lunatic Behind “Sydney Siege” ?

            Fadi El Haje 16DEC14

            I searched around this crazy man and came across some interesting Information!! You won’t believe who was behind the creation of this monster. Previously an outspoken critic of Iranian government, was interviewed by Australian media in 2001, loved Western society… 

            As predicted, the suspect amid the “Sydney Siege,” has long been on the radar of Australian law enforcement, as well as a frequent visitor to Australia’s court system. 

            Before that, however, he came to Australia as a political refugee, an opponent of what he called the “Iranian regime,” and was even interviewed by Australia’s ABC network in 2001 as part of an ongoing anti-Iranian propaganda campaign. 

            It has been revealed that long-time agitator, alias “Man Haron Monis,” also known as “Manteghi Boroujerdi,” was the suspect amid the so-called “Sydney Siege” hostage crisis. Monis/Boroujerdi claims to be a Shia’a religious leader and is often seen in press photos dressed as one.

            Despite this, he was at the center of a hostage crisis requesting the flag of the “Islamic State” terrorist organization be delivered to him while claiming association with other ISIS “brothers.”

            Monis/Boroujerdi rose to infamy amid two notable incidents 

            – one being his involvement in the stabbing death and burning of his ex-wife 
            – the other being his controversial campaign of sending hate-letters to the families of dead Australian soldiers killed during the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. The latter was used extensively to stir up division across the pro and anti-war political divide.

            The Australian in a September 2013 article titled, “‘Cleric’ Man Haron Monis punished for offensive letters written to families of dead Diggers,” reported that:

            A SELF-styled Muslim cleric has been sentenced to 300 hours of community service for penning “grossly offensive” letters to families of soldiers killed in Afghanistan. 

            Man Haron Monis, also known as Sheik Haron, was also placed on a two-year good behaviour bond. 
            So too was his co-accused and partner, 34-year-old Amirah Droudis, who pleaded guilty to one count of aiding and abetting him.

            In December of 2013, the Australian Daily Telegraph would report in an article titled, “‘Hate’ sheik Man Horan Monis and girlfriend Amirzh Droudis granted bail on murder charges,” that:
            Monis is charged as an accessory before and after the fact to the murder of Noleen Hayson Pal, 30, who was stabbed 18 times and set alight outside a western Sydney unit in April.
            Monis/Boroujerdi’s Origins Story 

            But before Monis/Boroujerdi’s recent run-ins with the law and his role as chief “Muslim boogeyman” in Australia, he was “Manteghi Boroujerdi,” a “victim” of the “Iranian regime” who was in love with Western society.

            Australia’s ABC in its “Religion Report” dated January 31, 2001, introduced Monis/Boroujerdi as follows:
            …while in Sydney we talk to Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi, an Iranian cleric espousing a liberal brand of Islam – dangerously liberal, as his views have led to his wife and two daughters being held hostage in Iran.

            The interview itself is used as yet another vehicle to carry along Western propaganda long-aimed at Iran. It claims Monis/Boroujerdi’s family is in grave danger and that Monis/Boroujerdi himself would be executed should he ever return to Iran. It quotes Monis/Boroujerdi several times including claims he was formally associated with Iranian intelligence:

            “In Iran, mostly I have been involved with the Ministry of Intelligence and Security.
            And was in contact with the UN regarding security issues”

            “in Iran: …more than four years I have not seen my family, and the Iranian regime doesn’t let them come out. In fact I can say they are hostage; as a hostage the Iranian regime wants to make me silent, because I have some secret information about government, and about their terrorist operations in the war. I sent a letter to the Secretary-General of the United Nations and somebody on behalf of Mr Kofi Anan sent the answer, and they want to do something. I have hope and always I pray and ask God to solve my problem.”

            At one point during the interview Monis/Boroujerdi professes his love of Australia, Canada, the US, and UK claiming:

            “…we can say Australia, Canada, England, USA, so many western countries, they are religious societies. They don’t say ‘We are religious’, but in fact the spirit of religion, we can see the spirit of religion in these societies. And some other countries in the Middle East, in Asia, they say ‘We are Islamic’ they have a name of Islamic, but in fact they are not religious societies and religious governments. Whenever I walk in the street, whenever I go out in Australia, I feel I am in a real religious society. I don’t want to say it is perfect, we don’t have a perfect society on the earth, but when we compare, if we compare Australia with Iran and other countries in the Middle East, we can say it is heaven.”

            However, later in 2008, Monis/Boroujerdi’s activities drew the attention of real Shia’a religious leaders in Australia who asked Australian security agents to investigate him. In an Australian article titled, “Call to probe mystery Shia cleric,” it was reported that:
            FEDERAL agents have been urged by the nation’s senior Shia leader, Kamal Mousselmani, to investigate an Iranian man purporting to be a prominent Islamic cleric. 
            Sheik Mousselmani told The Australian yesterday the mystery cleric – who has been identified as Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi on his website after appearing under the name Sheik Haron 

            – was not a genuine Shia spiritual leader. He said there were no ayatollahs 
            – supreme Shia scholars – in Australia and none of his fellow spiritual leaders knew who Ayatollah Boroujerdi or Sheik Haron was. 

            “We don’t know him and we have got nothing to do with him,” Sheik Mousselmani said. “The federal police should investigate who he is. It should be their responsibility.”

            But it was the Australian media itself who introduced him publicly as an “Ayatollah” and the Australian government that vetted him and allegedly granted him political asylum. He was allegedly in contact with the UN and was used to stir up anti-Iranian sentiment in Australia. It is then highly suspicious that now both the Australian media and the Australian government appear to have no knowledge of who he is or where he came from.

          • dblarry

            Hope the world is rid of Iranian International Terrorism so people can see Peace! Are there more of such Shiite Ayatullahs in Australia? Feel sorry for the good Australians who have to deal with such Iranian Takfiri Shiite Terrorists.
            Iran seems to always get away with their evil acts as they are so use to shifting the blame on someone else. Even now they are denying and shifting the blame. When will they realize they are one of the biggest reason for the worlds current state and own up for their actions instead of shifting the blame on others and non-shiites?
            Reports from Iran are stating that he can’t be a Shiite and from Iran as Iranians and Shiites are not extremists but peace loving and this was the work of the powers who cant stand Iran and Shiites integrity and want to malign them. They will not succeed in their evil designs as Iran and Shiites will expose the real perpetuators behind this and stopped from saying it was an Inside Job to defame Iran and Shiites. They are claiming him to be a Zionist tool who converted to Sunni from Shiism before he died.
            That’s what they are saying. Going by what happened they must be very disappointed that it was not a non-shiite like the world is accustomed seeing but a Shiite. They may come back with a ploy of their own shortly to get back even with their defamers for defaming Iran and Shiites.
            Even blogs are quiet as the bloggers are disappointed that it was a Shiite and not a non-shiite. If not by now you would see tons of hate filled posts floating around tormenting the non-shiites, their religion and their religious entities.
            Would a non-shiite have got the same leniency like this Iranian Takfiri Shiite Ayatullah Terrorist, who is being let off by just being called a Thug, Luni, Not a Ayatullah or Sheikh, Not an Iranian but an Arab, Not a Shiite, etc. say if he were a Sunni?
            Would Iran and Shiites as always conveniently keep claiming every terrorist of their very own to be a Sunni and not a Shiite like this Iranian Shiite Takfiri Terrorist instead of owning it up and not shifting the blame in all their International acts of Terrorism, its Terrorists, and proxies?
            It seems the world like the bloggers is OK with Iran and Shiites being the perpetuators of international terrorism.
            This was a heinous act against humanity and the actor(s) and its sponsors should be brought to justice.

          • Hind Abyad

            Thank you for this..:)) Very strange. So he’s not just an unknown.
            Did you know he admired this Iranian “Iron Sheikh”, another criminal
            they say.

          • Reasonableman

            I will add to that, as much the media makes out sunnis hate shiites sufficient proof is out thrre in “usul l kahf ” that it is halal for shias to kill sunnis under any circumstances. Whereas in sunni teachings they make takfir on shiites but do not give permission to strike or rob any shia.

          • 5thDrawer

            So …. maybe a Headline … ‘Aussi Ayatolla – Terror In Deep Dark Chocolate’. :-))
            Apparently ‘the family’ back in Iran is another ‘well-to-do’ backgrounder. Perhaps they were happy not to be in touch with him. Like Bin Laden, these guys who don’t need to make a living and create their own little worlds in a brain. Look at Kimmy in N.Korea….

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Or look at Kanye in čaliphornye.

          • Hind Abyad

            I know the Iranian story about “The Iron Sheikh” was all over the press yesterday.

          • Hind Abyad

            Thank you for this..:))

          • Hind Abyad

            Thank you for that story:)

          • ¶•

            You’re welcome Hindafist, “Yalibnan’s Circus Jester” !!!

      • Hind Abyad

        see my link below:
        “While he was widely known as a practicing Shia Muslim, Monis is believed to have converted to Sunni Islam just last month when he posted a message on his now-suspended website rejecting Shiism and pledging allegiance to the Islamic State’s terrorist leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.”

        • arzatna1

          This is what Iran is claiming too.
          After 50 years of being a Shiite he died one month after converting to Sunni .
          But he committed all the previous 40 crimes for which he was wanted , while he was a Shiite.
          Lets admit he was a criminal regardless of his religion , and not because he was a Sunni or Shiite.
          All these criminals , be it Christians, Muslims, Jews etc..etc. do not have a God . If they did believe in any God they would never be criminals .

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Spot on.

          • Reasonableman

            A little valuable info to know what made this guy tick. He was granted political asylum in 1996 because he was opposed to iranian rule.
            Australia aswell as America allow anybody who are anti Iran onto their soil (obviously after procedures).

          • arzatna1

            It is tough to check the criminal record of people who come from third world countries , because of corruption. This guy may have committed crimes in Iran and escaped, but some officials could have cleaned up his criminal record for few rials . Remember, Iran is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and anything can be done for a fee.
            This guy comes from a prominent Iranian religious family of several ayatollahs. One of these ayatollahs is now serving a prison sentence .
            I disagree with your last statement …many never make it even after waiting for years.

          • Hind Abyad

            That’s gratitude..Disgusting..

          • dblarry

            Very well said. Now Iran will turn around and use it to their advantage. They will never own up and admit even if you show them visual proof but will twist, deny, lie, shit blame, etc. and claim it to be fabricated like this Iranian Shiite Ayatullah’s case who they are claiming not to be an Iranian Shiite.

          • Hind Abyad

            I never said the contrary i read all about his stupid life.
            It’s much to do about nothing regarding the sense of conversion, he wanted was to join ISIS so he converted..ISIS sent messages asking Moslems to create ISIS cells to attack in Australia.

    • Maborlz Ez-Hari

      Are you some kind of prophet? You keep mentioning predictions. The good folk are not haters but they have had a gut full already.

    • Reasonableman

      Sallam allaykom

      There are those who will take out their anger and fear on the Muslim community. There are those who will blindly scare and terrify even more people, in the misguided belief that they are making some sort of point about the kind of Australia they want to live in.

      There are those who will yell at, swear at, physically intimidate or attack and abuse peace-loving Muslims who are simply going about their daily business. There are those who will target their homes and places of worship.

      But there is still good people out there who think logically and willing to support his breatherin.

      #illridewithyou

      • Btru2u

        Alaikum asalaam ,
        Well said brother

    • 5thDrawer

      Chocolate can have a calming effect … and if they don’t run out of coffee, it should all be fine.
      At least the folks helped the guy put his advert in the window. I imagine a chat near the beginning…
      ‘Oy, Mate. A bit of Choco with a cuupa?? And ‘ere we go, I found some tape. We can mount the sign properly, mate, all straight ‘n proper. And ‘ere, have a cream-filled …..’

  • Reasonableman

    Confirmed by 9 news and police at the scene sheikh haron the crazy irani is the gunman.

  • Hannibal

    I thought Chocolate was healthy ;)

    • 5thDrawer
      • Hannibal

        Yup
        A rafidi turned jihadi au chocolat :P

    • Hind Abyad

      Black chocolate is healthy.:))

      • Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Your bad. ……

        • Hind Abyad

          Didn’t you know about black chocolate?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I’ll take your word for it.

          • 5thDrawer

            I think she means ‘Dark’. Saying ‘black’ about anything these days could be a problem too. Even if you say it in a ‘gay’ way.
            :-)))))))

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Lol now I’m spooked by ‘Dark’ as well, I have a weak stomach.

          • Hind Abyad

            In French it’s Black in English it’s Dark, no problems with English we are bilingual here.

          • 5thDrawer

            Cafe Noir, avec chocolate …. mmmmmm

          • Hind Abyad

            beautiful.. depends of the coffee machine.
            (chocolat:)

          • Hind Abyad

            No I’m fed up with ignorance read about the Black chocolate anti oxidant qualities, not milk chocolate, in health food. Bah…

          • 5thDrawer

            70% Cacao …. c’est assez. Baking chocolate is a little dry …. (not sweet ..comme vous)

          • Hind Abyad

            70% cacao is the top i enjoy eating..a propos i got a box of truffle au Champagne (only once a year).. if i start, the box will empty on the first day..umm..here is bad Christmas atmosphere this year :) for me

          • 5thDrawer

            Frankly, I don’t feel it’s great anywhere … world at war, friends in troubles, news from everywhere is crappy, colds, flus, wet, cold, snow, ice ….. and who can afford truffles?
            How decadent !!
            But just think … they would melt in Australia. ;-) :-))))

          • Hind Abyad

            It was a present..(not from Salafists).

          • ¶•

            Present from Hindafist, “Yalibnan’s Circus Jester” !!!

          • Hind Abyad

            parrot

          • 5thDrawer

            Deadly day shopping … they had the Marachino Cherry-filled ones on sale. Irresistible.
            My budget suffers … but …. mmmm .. cherries …..

        • Hind Abyad

          ??

        • Hind Abyad

          Ask Hannibal. ……

  • TheUSequalsTheIS

    this the proof why the US must be stopped. as long as no one speaks out against it the US will fund terrorism and terrorist organizations such as al-qaeda, taliban and the IS.

  • 5thDrawer

    In the end, and overall, a typical ‘bureaucratic’ boondoggle – mixed with ‘liberal’ law.
    Iran & Australia don’t have ‘friendly’ relations … so, whatever Iran says couldn’t be implemented anyway.
    It’s a world of politics. Politics are often not very good for individuals.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-30502094

  • Reasonableman

    I dedicate this photo to man-o-war

    • Reasonableman

      Mr Daoud ( on the right ) came in the spotlight in early 2013 accusing our beloved Sheihk Shaheed Mustapha Al Majzoub of being a terroist few months later he copped that amazing hook from the brother in bankstown on ACA accusing the ASWJ of being terroist but the tables have turned now on day 1 of the siege he went viral accusing Sunni wahhabi extremist of the act but now thats its his friend and bbq buddy he has kept silent.

      • 5thDrawer

        Interesting … you folks are having fun down there now, I assume. ;-)

        • Reasonableman

          Could definitely be aerated and fertalized :-) how are you? Are you winning or is the snow?

  • Hind Abyad