Biden calls Israel’s house demolition policy ‘collective punishment’

biden brookings institutionUS Vice President Joe Biden called on Israel to stop the demolition of homes of militants’ families, which he described as “collective punishment.”

Biden also criticized expansion of Jewish settlements “in the West Bank and East Jerusalem” and called on the government to do more to stop “vigilante justice” attacks against Palestinians.

Appearing at the Brookings Institution’s Saban Forum, he focused on US support for Israeli security and said that the Obama administration had provided Israel with over $17 billion in aid since it came into office six years ago, including $1 billion for the Iron Dome anti-missile system.

Biden included in his speech lavish expressions of love and support for Israel and for Prime Minister Netanyahu “although we drive each other crazy.” He said

Addressing the Iranian nuclear talks he estimated that the chances for an accord were “less than even” and insisted that a “good deal” that would make the world safer is entirely possible.

According to Israeli professor Yossi Mekelberg ” in the occupied West Bank and the blockaded Gaza, Palestinian’s rights are constantly and continuously violated. Beyond the green line there is no trace of Israeli democracy, only a very harsh occupation. A source of particular concern is the implementation of collective punishment policy by the Israeli security forces, on the Palestinian population in contravention of international law.”

He added in a recent article :”The phenomenon is taking place not only as a specific response to Palestinian militants’ attacks on Israeli targets. It is a daily occurrence aimed to deter the population from any form of resistance out of fear and to ensure the security (not to mention control of the territories) of Jews at the expense of Palestinians’ basic rights.”

The last few weeks witnessed the return of the Israeli practice of collective punishment, especially house demolitions, of entirely innocent Palestinians, for acts, deplorable as they might be, that were carried out by others.

Mekelberg says the” Israeli government argues that house demolitions, as other forms of collective punishment, are actually not punishments but aim to deter others from carrying out similar attacks on Israelis. However, there is no evidence that collective punishment deters would be assailants.”

Mekelberg concluded that ” the demolition of houses of the families of Palestinians, who killed Israelis in terror attacks, can only be regarded as an act of punishment and revenge.”

  • doron

    “Beyond the green line there is no trace of Israeli democracy, only a very harsh occupation…” the guy is a genius…all he has to add is that a state’s obligation to democracy applies only inside it’s own borders..
    also he can mention that ruling an occupied territory is not subject to same rules as your own state..hypocrisy to demand Israel to follow a non existing code that no one else does

    finally, the revered professor would do good to expose the reasons why he is being hypocrite towards Israel (that is unless the news paper chose to publish only some of his words, in this case i apologizing in advance :))

    • man-o-war

      “also he can mention that ruling an occupied territory is not subject to same rules as your own state..hypocrisy to demand Israel to follow a non existing code that no one else does”, fair enough. Does this logic apply to the People living under occupation? They shouldn’t be judged by normal international law. According to you both sides are free to continue breaking international laws and are free to commit war crimes.

      • doron

        no my friend..
        acts committed by an occupying force are not subject to same set of rules as ruling your own country- therefor comparing the 2 is false and biased by the root of it.
        as for international court.. :))))
        we’re still waiting for the PA to file some complains..can’t you see? they always threat and do nothing . the PA & Hamas knows better then to open this can of worms.
        they will threat till they turn blue so they can show a fiction of action for their people but they will do nothing cause they fit the definition of war criminals and wish no one to look into that..
        it’s all a game, an act, a show..played in order for them to maintain their control of the people while continue receiving donation money..it’s crystal clear, how can you not see it?

        • man-o-war

          Ok, I can see we won’t agree here, but thats ok. One question, how are the Palestinians war criminals? They are an occupied people, so they don’t have to play by the same rules. Right?

          • doron

            right, they can act as they wish as long as they understands there is a reaction to every action- if they chose the violence path they should understand in advance they will encounter ten folds stronger violence.
            i’m not here to fix the world, I only live in it

          • Arafat

            Indigenous Palestinians are a false claim, they are Arabs who took Palestine form the Cannanites, so they are imperialists
            and should be carted off to jail.

          • Hind Abyad

            Arafatus. You’re an uneducated Western Jew with no links to the Middle East. Canaan was the land of the Semitic TRIBES, roaming in the desert of Shem (Sham- Damascus in Arabic till this day), Abraham lived in tents in the Desert..he married two women, David had 500 wives.

            Jews are a race not a religion, you’re semi-crazy, the AshkeNazim think Jews are the only Semitic people in existence in the World, it’s surreal.. Not in history, science, anthropology, genealogy..

            The apostles and first Christians in Palestine prayed in Synagogues and Knesset (gathering place), Church is Knisseh in Arabic till this day.
            Coptic manuscripts 41AD relate to the history due to the proximity of Palestine
            Paul killed followers of Jesus (all Jews as Jesus).later he created Christianity, Moslems who converted to Islam were Jews or Christians.

          • Arafat

            Earth to Hind…come in please. On second thought, do not.
            But do answer one question for me. Why did your prophet, you know the sadist clown Mohammed, have intercourse with a nine year old girl when he was 54. Is this normal behavior among Muslims?

          • Hind Abyad

            I’m a Christian, call wargame sir Arafatus..

          • Arafat

            I’m a Christian from Iraq. My entire family was killed by Muslims. My cousin is a Christian from Lebanon – a prominent family – all killed by Muslims and their houses and businesses stolen by Muslim scum.

          • man-o-war

            Too bad they left you breathing and kicking. I know of many Muslims that have been killed by Christians, Jews, and other Muslims. What’s your fucking point? Evil knows no religion

          • Arafat

            Trying to help Muslims is like trying to help a rabid dog.
            Regardless of how good your intentions are, you’re going to get bitten——-

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Therefore, dont cast your pearls before swine and when leaving their village wipe the dust off the bottom of your sandals.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You cant see the point its as plain as the bacon and eggs on that ass.

          • man-o-war

            No, I can’t. His family was killed by Muslims, Ok. That makes all Muslims murdering terrorist devil worshipers? Give me a fucking break.

            No Christians have killed Muslim families? No Jews have killed Muslim families? No Muslims killed Muslim families? No Buddhist killed Muslim families? No Hindu killed Muslim Families? Evil knows no religion. Humans are violent by nature, especially when it comes to resources.

            P.S. That ass is far from plain.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ok man but we kinda feel superior cos we are, i generally agree with you most times but that Arafat person kind of makes a bit of sense aswell. Far out even cook makes sense at times, im confused.

          • 5thDrawer

            Actually Maborlz, I’m glad if you see some of the little truths, which are too often hidden in a pile of general crap that wraps it. The trick is to separate out the realities of life from the ‘belief’ bits … the things all the religions fall back on to attempt giving ‘reason’ to inhumanities. Laying ANY of the ‘crap’ on God is where they are all wrong.
            And ‘The Tribalists’ seem to be the worst.
            I note that Arafat said: “I’m a Christian from Iraq.” He didn’t say ‘I’m an Iraqi, and happen to be Christian.’
            You can see why they all walked away and left ISIS to pick up the weapons.
            Problem was, that move didn’t protect the little Tribal ‘lands’ with gratitude either.

          • 5thDrawer

            One ‘up’ for the ass, for sure. :-)))

          • vs
          • MekensehParty

            How about evil and religions know each other very well?

          • man-o-war

            True as well, religion makes people think they’re superior to others. When that happens you begin to think others are lesser peoples (ex. Jews and goyim, Muslim & infidels). Sometimes evil is used to prove the point.

          • 5thDrawer

            Actually Arafat, this ‘blog’ has been through all the sickening stuff already – you’re coming in late with the diatribes, and we really don’t need it, sad as your own ‘personal’ history may be.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ahlan bi no.5, this blog is boring wiz out you and your input plz stay tuned.

          • 5thDrawer

            Oh well Mab, I can’t be ‘on’ all the time … and I have a cold … dammit.
            Problem was, I went out and actually met some real people for ‘festivities’ …. bugs all over the place … know what I mean? Season to be ‘jolly’. Right. :-))

            Not, of course, that you are not real people … even if I think a few are a little unreal in here.
            (excuse me while I disinfect the keyboard ….)

          • Hind Abyad

            Soo true my computer was becoming a donkey..

          • 5thDrawer

            Next Hard Drive for Christmas? 😉 (external storage – best idea.)
            These days you can get a Terrabyte for peanuts ….
            Even a 2-terrabyte ‘portable’ will fit in your purse.

          • Hind Abyad

            i embarrassed, don’t know, is it simple to install?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            You haven’t done it before? :))))))

          • Hind Abyad

            Something burning in the kitchen excuse me.

          • 5thDrawer

            (oh no … her cooking is like mine …)

          • Guest

            But im not finished!

          • Hind Abyad

            Malbrough why are you Guest? Never mind not finished.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I tried to delete that post, oops.

          • Hind Abyad

            I have a simple hmar computer..i’m an artist not a tech.

          • 5thDrawer

            Hind. Does it have a USB slot? A spot to plug in a ‘memory stick’ ??

          • Hind Abyad

            Yes, i have to create memory stick…or is it in hmar?

          • 5thDrawer

            It’s not in hmar … but hmar should have USB slot to plug one into.
            Which is also where one could plug an external hard-drive for storage.
            (sigh ….)

          • Hind Abyad

            OK i found the USB stick in, so that’s easy.. thank you 🙂

          • 5thDrawer

            Good girl. I hate scrolling … let’s do ‘lessons’ in articles no-one cares about. ;-))
            (more ‘private’ … wink, wink … ) … 8-|?)

          • 5thDrawer

            You will be more embarrassed, Dear, when you plug one into your USB slot.
            And anyone in a store will tell you how.
            (I could come to help. :-)) xox

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Bad man bad man you sir are a bad man just like the rest of us.

          • 5thDrawer

            hehehehe .. yes .. and she knows … :-))))

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Poor lady is surrounded by misogynistic apes.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Baddaddy got a terrorbite for peanuts they’re pretty effective.

          • 5thDrawer

            (hard nut …. 😉 )

          • Hind Abyad

            Bigddadddy is allergic to peanuts..good

          • Hind Abyad

            Itzhak Shamir travelled to Baghdad in 1952 to blow up his own people Synagogues so they flee to Israel.
            You’re fake, maybe Evangelical but not Arab Christian.

          • Hind Abyad

            Wich year?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Comments like these are only intended to create more angst and conflict. Even though they are a true and accurate description of events calling him a clown is not fair on the clowns of today and will only further the tension in this blog’s community.

          • 5thDrawer

            If playing with little girls is the only thing you can keep whacking at, come into the ‘modern’ age with the examples of those who do.

          • MekensehParty

            Hind will never reply when you corner her, but it’s not her fault, her brain was conditioned to evade when it faces reality. Let me answer the question though. In the 7th century, before and all the way till the 20th and among all cultures and civilizations, a girl was considered ready for marriage and therefore intercourse as soon as she has her first period. Only recently did it become pedophelia to have sex with a minor (less than 18).
            Not to say that it was right, pedophelia has been scientifically proven to be extremely damaging, but it was the norm. Many Jews and non Jews “raped” 9 years old not for thousands but for millions of years. Heck, Mary mother of Jesus was 12 to 14 when God “forced” himself on her. Lot of examples in the Old Testament too of what is today outright criminal.
            What Mohamed did by marrying and bedding all these girls of all ages was nothing’s abnormal.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Mek you need to invest in silence.

          • 5thDrawer

            Little realities of ‘human progress’ are rather scary, eh Mab. ?? ;-))

          • MekensehParty

            Silence won’t hide the truth ya maborlz
            As I said in the past
            Nowadays if a guy named Gabriel slips in the room of teenager Mariam in the middle of the night and makes her pregnant he goes to jail no matter the length of his wings or his connections with the king of paradise.

          • 5thDrawer

            In time periods when average life expectancy was 35, perhaps at best, unless one was coddled and protected and fed well, what we would consider ‘too young’ now was ‘old’.
            Some ‘Rulers’ – born with the silver spoons in their mouths – were leading armies at age 14 because their own parents had passed on from a disease, or a sword.
            I think ‘age’ is part of the problem with all the ‘ancient fairy tales’, that the ‘old storytellers’ and balladeers carrying the tales were actually filled with the imaginings of young minds, and embellished them accordingly.
            No-one has ever been able to define, with a mathematical certainty, the number in a horde. Although a lot of people (or sheep) were attacked by them it seems. :-)))
            MOST of humanity wore itself out simply working to death attempting to survive by scratching the land, when it finally figured out how to cultivate an edible.
            Most, cultivated it FOR a King … for example like the ‘famous’ Solomon … who managed to live quite a long time because he had MANY women ‘taking care’ of him. 😉
            http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/biblicalhistory/qt/020511-Wives-of-Solomon.htm

            He ‘reigned’ for 40 years … perhaps that makes his life a touch over 50?. Wow.
            Our problem is that there wasn’t a recording device around to chronicle events in the ‘inner sanctums’, to see how all those ladies kept him alive for so long. :-))))

          • Hind Abyad

            Dear McCarthy when did Arafoot corner me, why would i evade the Koran it’s not my domain, but his insistence was weird especially that man-no-war already explained it to him, he’s obsessed with pederasty, your skin is too thick to notice.
            If you have read my reply further down you would have stopped barking at Hind, as Arafoot had the chance to benefice by reading quotes from the Talmud.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Jews and Christians a few but mostly pagans.

          • Arafat

            Hind,
            Why did your prophet rape a nine year old girl? Was he really just a perverted megalomaniac like all the leaders found throughout the entire Muslim world?

          • man-o-war

            What were you trying to say? I couldn’t understand you. Try talking with out a mouthful of shit.

          • Arafat

            Silencing debate by name-calling.

            Silencing debate by rioting.

            Silencing debate by making stuff up.

            Silencing debate by spinning jihad.

            Silencing debate by beheading.

            Silencing debate by death threats.

            Silencing debate by theft and rape.

            Silencing debate by cold shoulder.

            Silencing debate by taqiyya.

            Silencing debate by throwing acid.

            Normative Islam, rather than an aberration.

          • man-o-war

            Learned from the best ; ) jackass!

          • Arafat

            1. If you refine heroin for a living,

            but you have a moral objection to liquor,

            You may be a Muslim.

            2. If you own a $3,000 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher,

            but you can’t afford shoes,

            You may be a Muslim.

            3. If you have more wives than teeth,

            You may be a Muslim.

            4. If you wipe your butt with your bare hand

            but consider bacon to be unclean,

            You may be a Muslim.

            5. If you think vests come in two styles:

            Bullet-proof and suicide.

            You may be a Muslim

            6. If you can’t think of anyone

            you haven’t declared jihad against,

            You may be a Muslim.

            7. If you consider television dangerous

            but routinely carry explosives in your clothing,

            You may be a Muslim.

            8. If you were amazed to discover that cell phones

            have uses other than setting off roadside bombs,

            You may be a Muslim.

            9. If you have nothing against women

            and think every man should own at least four,

            You may be a Muslim.

          • man-o-war

            You’re a fucking moron and are doing a disservice to the Jewish people by claiming to be standing up and defending them. Now go ahead and go suck some baby pènïs. Just wipe the blood off your lips when you’re done.

          • Arafat

            If you want to understand the enemy “Read what they say”.
            They constantly justify their acts with accurate and apt citations from the Koran and Hadith.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Your killing me. Looooooool

        • Hind Abyad

          Report submitted to the United Nations Security Council by UN observers in the Golan Heights over the past 18 months shows that Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) have been in regular contact with Syrian rebels, including Islamic State (ISIS) militants.Israeli soldiers stand near the border with Syria in the occupied Golan Heights as they prepare to evacuate a wounded Syrian. Reuters Citing the UN report. Haaretz noted that there have been several instances detailed in th3D59

          • doron

            answered you on the post to wargame :)))

          • Hind Abyad

            You mean this?
            UN Report: Israel in Regular contact with Syrian rebels including ISIS”
            http://linkis.com/www.ibtimes.co.in/NYVZI

          • Arafat

            Israel should also withdraw immediately from the United Nations (whose full name seems more accurately to be UNAI, the United Nations Against Israel) and help found a robust league of democracies, a new body where human rights violators don’t preside over human rights councils and where blocs of Islamists and communists don’t dictate to progressive republics. The UN might have arguably been the greatest endeavor man ever embarked upon; instead, it is a tiresome farce run by malevolent circus clowns. This is one club to which the Jew, and the Jewish State, should not belong and not wish to belong.

          • Hind Abyad

            Israel can do as they want as they always did.

          • Arafat

            Muslims can do as they want as they always did.
            Be it killing one million animists in Sudan, or killing one million of one another as they did in the Iran/Iraq War, or killing 70 million Hindus which they did in their many jihads of southern Asia.
            What a murdering group of thugs Muslims are.

          • Hind Abyad

            WE in the Middle East have nothing to do with Sudan, Iran, Hindus, or Asia. Israel is allied with Saudi Arabia that helped foreign Jihad go to Syria. The first massacred by “rebels” were Christians who were born there and Armenian Genocide grandchildren, millions of Christians are gone from the Levant thanks to the West and allies. See UN Report below, before i go, thank you for exterminating our Christians by proxie$$$.. We will never forget. They were living in Irak and Syria for 2000 years. Gone with the Wind.

          • Arafat

            Hind, are you a reenactment of Pavlov’s dogs? But your response being the propaganda that’s been beaten into your brain for your entire life.
            Muslims are killing Christians in Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon. Is this close enough to home for you. Of course, Christians are not allowed to carry bibles or wear crosses in countries like Saudi Arabia and they are not even allowed in Mecca.
            Your bullsh*t about Islam is first class taqiyya and I’m sure your Muslim masters are proud of you for it.
            Why do you avoid the question about the 54 year old misogynist Mohammed raping a nine year old girl?

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Whats wrong with being a misogynist?

          • Arafat

            If you’re a Muslim, apparently, there is nothing wrong with hating women, but for the civilized world there is.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Oufffft, cant a Christian guy have no fun!

          • 5thDrawer

            No. Everything fun or pleasurable is a sin. THAT’s why they Tax it. 😉

          • Hind Abyad

            They love women, they don’t shave their head, extract their teeth, Arab women don’t wear wigs and dentures to go out

          • Hind Abyad

            What you want of me, Israel is aiding them, Israeli planes violates Lebanon’s air space everyday, spying on Lebanese Army barraks taking data for ISIS. Israel does what it want’s. I know all about Saudi Arabia Wahhabi hate Christians. Jews write “Jesus mother was is a whore”, on monastery’s walls. You seam to know Islam a lot but i don’t..we never discuss religion with friends, that’s all you talk about (another Zionist troll)..
            “Muslims killing Christians in Syria”, yes since 2011 with the Jihads invasion, the Levant was Christianity Chateau Fort.. millions are gone.
            As for your Mohamed raping a nine year old, you didn’t read the Talmud.

          • Arafat

            No. I read the Qur’an and hadiths and there I learned all about the pedophile prophet named Mohammed.
            Are you OK with a prophet who rapes little girls?

          • Hind Abyad

            Why so interested in Quran..why not in the Talmud?
            Are you OK with Rabbis who rape 3 years old?
            Sorry for the audience.

            First- Yalkut 245c (about Christians)
            Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.

            Zohar, Shemoth
            Tob shebbe goyyim harog – Even the best of the Goyim
            (Gentiles) should be killed.
            ————
            Avodah Zarah 36b
            They decreed in connection with a heathen child that
            it should cause defilement by seminal emission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit pederasty with him…. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen girl [communicates defilement] from the age of three years and one day, for inasmuch as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious!
            ———
            Avodah Zarah 36b-37a
            R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition [intercourse], and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. The penalty of adultery may be incurred through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him who has connection with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea].
            ——-
            Sanhedrin 55b
            Rab said: Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed as pederasty with a child above that. Samuel said: Pederasty with a child below three years is not treated as with a child above that.
            (24) I.e., Rab makes nine years the minimum; but if one committed sodomy with a child of lesser age, no guilt is incurred. Samuel makes three the minimum.

          • 5thDrawer

            Ahh, yes, that ‘good old’ ancient stuff … :-))))

          • Hind Abyad

            That’s nothing, the horror is unbearable..

        • Arafat

          Palestinians are a miserable and pathetic people. They slit the throats of innocent Israeli families, then whine when
          Israel sets up check points to prevent this. They blow
          themselves up on crowded Israeli buses, then whimper when Israel prevents this with a wall. They shoot rockets at Israel by the thousands, then kvetch and moan
          when Israel deploys Iron Dome defenses to prevent this, too.
          ==

          They forced the construction of the wall. They necessitated
          the checkpoints. All of their misery is their own doing. But they will never acknowledge that truth; because that would mean self-reflection and intelligence (decency and kindness) on their part– all characteristics they and their
          leadership know nothing about.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Your another person who has taken the Israeli story hook, line and sinker. The Palestinian people are ruled by either the PLO, FATAH or HAMAS these entities have given israel reason to get away with cold blooded murder for decades. How do these groups get continuous funding and continuous supply of weapons? Israel knows more about HAMAS than the Palestinians and they have been using the same CARD for decades to justify their always increasing land/water/natural resource grabs and occupation of Palestinian, Syrian, lebanese, Jordanian and Egyptian land. Make no mistake the only people to benefit from the middle eastern turmoil are the instigators of this mess.

          • Arafat

            Support civilization and reject Islam.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ok point taken.

          • man-o-war

            You’re a bigot! You want to know why? Go back and read the first sentance of your comment jackass. You lost what ever little credibility you had with that one line. The point you were trying to make was lost. Crawl back under the rock you came out from, and please take cooked2long with you.

          • Arafat

            ISLAMOREALISM means I know why I cannot publish an book critical of Mohammed and his child marriage without hiring fulltime armed guards.

          • man-o-war

            Why are you trying to educate Muslims about the prophet? They know that he married a 6 year old and had sex with her at 9. Your point? What year did this happen? you do realize that this was not uncommon during those times. As soon as a girl had her 1st period she was good to go.

            Are there Jewish practices that are strange and considered immoral? Maybe the practice of a Jewish mohel?

          • Arafat

            So it’s OK for a prophet to rape a nine year old girl. I guess that explains a lot about why Islam treats women like dirt.

          • man-o-war

            From todays perspective it’s certainly not OK, lot got drunk and impregnated his daughters, and God forgave them. Would that be OK today? Of course not! I think you’re broad generalizations are offensive and it’s really hard to take you seriously. There are hundreds of millions of good hardworking Muslims all over the world, and they’re not out there plotting world domination.

          • Arafat

            There are two basic camps of Muslims:

            ~ the “jihadist”, who wants to hack
            our heads off.

            ~ the “moderate”, perfectly content
            with the jihadist hacking our heads off.

          • man-o-war

            Alright, obviously you’ve convinced yourself that Muslims are evil and its your duty to save the world. You seem to have it all figured out. You’ve tapped into the minds and hearts of 1 billion Muslims worldwide. Two basic camps, so simple. Cool, good luck on your endeavors.

            You’re Christian? What will happen to people that refuse to except Jesus Christ as their lord and savior?

          • Arafat

            Muslims are not evil. Islam is evil. It is supremacist with the goal of Muslims ruling over all others, including killing those who do not acquiesce to Islam.
            Muslims are evil, most of them not knowing any better, in their blind submission to this death cult.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Absolutely

          • Hind Abyad

            Mazbout

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Aiwa.

          • man-o-war

            “Muslims are not evil”…”Muslims are evil”, ummm…Ok.

            You’re not really a moron, but really you’re a moron.

          • man-o-war

            You’re Christian? What will happen to people that refuse to except Jesus Christ as their lord and savior?

          • Arafat

            Nothing. They become atheists or whatever it is they want.
            Muslims, on the other hand, when they turn their back on Islam are often killed.
            Do you understand the difference or is this too difficult for you to comprehend?

          • man-o-war

            Religious people blindly believe, its called faith. Is it not true that its a Christians duty to spread Christianity, and that “all shall know” of Jesus Christ? What will happen If you know and still refuse to except him as your lord and savior? Will they burn in hellfire? lol, so peaceful. I’m not an expert in religion, so let me know if I’m getting it wrong.

          • Hind Abyad

            More or less copied from Marco Polo (copyrights).

          • Hind Abyad

            Wha’ts that Arafatus doing here..Christmas time invasion??

          • 5thDrawer

            I think so … hates Christmas trees. 😉

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Ok, if God forgave them, are you admitting that the Prophet needs forgiveness?

          • 5thDrawer

            Indeed … he was just a man … assume all the prophets needed forgiveness… :-))
            (some more than others … all events considered…)

          • man-o-war

            No, I’m not. Lot and his daughters committed incest, the prophet did what was the norm during those times.

          • 5thDrawer

            That isn’t what he said.

          • Hind Abyad

            Go to Talmud try to publish a book on child marriage..enough already.

          • Hind Abyad

            Why would an Iraqi Christian have so much hatred for Palestinians, you have the Aipac manual talking points.

      • cook2half

        There is no occupation

        • man-o-war

          ??

          • cook2half

            Judea and Samaria is a part of Israel

          • Hind Abyad

            Yes..but some Jews became Christians others became Moslems, Sephardi are Semites, i don’t know about Ashkenazim and Khazar, they have Slavic genealogy with no link to the Middle East 🙂 ?

          • cook2half

            Middle Eastern Jews are 50% of Jewish Israelis

          • Hind Abyad

            ^:^ true, it’s halfcooked :)))..hh..hum sorry..

          • Arafat

            Hind,
            Why did your prophet rape a nine year old girl? What lesson did he teach when he committed that cruel act?

          • man-o-war

            Hind is Christian, but anyone that is critical of Israel is automatically labeled Muslim fanatic, anti-Semitic , self hating Jew, and so on. Get off your effing high horse

          • Arafat

            Know islam, no peace.

            No islam, know peace.

          • man-o-war

            Are you mentally challenged?

          • Arafat

            What a “master stroke” of Satan the Islamic faith truly is.

            A faith so blatantly misogynistic and spiritually dead as this, could only come from a diabolical source.

            Expose this faith by telling the truth about it as much, and as often as you can, in all areas of the media.

            Only by doing this can this demonic ideology be defeated, and eradicated for good.

          • 5thDrawer

            (must be a ‘re-born again’ type)

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Dragon whips his tail.

          • Hind Abyad

            sounds like (..) diatribes crosswords..yawn..

          • MekensehParty

            she knows nothing of Christianity…

          • doron

            I label her Anti Israel fanatic, does it fit the way you see her as well?

          • vs

            Hind is liberal fundamentalist or mental masturbating

          • 5thDrawer

            Don’t say ‘Your’ to Hind, Arafat … of you’ll be labelled a Fathead along with several others.
            I mean, have you been here long enough to know anyone??

          • Watch Dog

            They have a link they are there .They are not going any were cry all you want.You attack them in the six day war you lost.You are luck they didn’t take all Palestinian from you traders.You people can not be trusted this has been proven Time and time again .Maybe if you keep praying to Mohammed he will forgive you for your sins ..You people are cry baby’s Isreal developed a beautiful country.Now you want it .

          • Hind Abyad

            You’re a very poor blind watching dog…fhhh..

          • Hind Abyad

            Invading is not a “link”, they have no genetic link also means they have zero knowledge of the Middle East and it’s history.

          • man-o-war

            What is Israel?

          • Arafat

            Israel is a country. Next question.

          • man-o-war

            Really? When did it become a country?

          • Arafat

            1948.
            When did your brain turn to mush?

          • man-o-war

            When i started reading your comments.

            What was Israel before 1948?

          • Arafat

            “Why is it Muslims are free to violently conquer lands
            anywhere and everywhere without a word of protest from American Muslims, or any Muslims or any liberals?

            But if Jews have a legally established homeland Muslims and Liberals and their ilk will never stop protesting against it? Why is this do you suppose? What explanation can be given other than as the Qur’an states
            repeatedly that Islam’s goal is to establish a worldwide caliphate in which all non-Muslims are subjugated.

            For instance, Mohammed was born around 571 AD thousands and thousands of years after Hinduism, Buddhism and Judaism existed. But within a
            few centuries of Mohammed’s birth Islam had violently conquered vast sections of Asia, all of North Africa and smaller sections of Southern Europe.

            Now Muslims tell us that all this land belongs to them even
            though, for instance, in Afghanistan they killed every last Buddhist who once lived there. According to Muslim logic per Israel shouldn’t this land belong to
            the Buddhists?

            Or in North Africa all the Berbers have been forcibly
            converted to Islam or have been killed and now we’re told all this vast landmass belongs to Islam. That’s interesting, if not completely hypocritical.

            And what about Southern Thailand. Did anyone know that in the last several years something like 5,000 Buddhists have been killed by Muslims because, or so we’re told, the land the Buddhists are on belongs to Islam.

            And Southern Russia? Muslims are relentlessly waging a slow reign of terror in Russia because, you guessed it, Russians are treating Muslims poorly and they should give up the Southern section of that country to
            Muslims since Islam deserves all lands.

            Or, let’s take Sudan as another example. How many millions have been killed in Sudan? How many babies and children have starved in Sudan while Islamists steal the food from aid compounds? How many women have Muslims gang-raped in Sudan all because that land belongs to Muslims and only Muslims. All other people can go somewhere else to live, I guess. They can go to South Sudan, but wait a minute, now Muslims are killing the people of South Sudan too.

            And Kashmir? The same. Despite Hindus having lived there for 3,000 years – something like 2,000+ years before Mohammed was born – Muslims tell us Kashmir belongs to them. Amazing logic isn’t it? Muslim logic, I guess.

            And that brings us to Israel. Israel also belongs to Islam
            too. Did you know that? It’s true. Just ask a Muslim or a liberal if you prefer. Even though it’s no bigger than a small pimple on the caliphate’s ass it is still their land and they will fight to the death to prove their point.

            Doesn’t the logic here make a lot of sense. Isn’t it as
            clear as day? Of course it does. The world belongs to Islam and we’re mere players on their stage.

          • doron

            STOP CONFUSING THEM WITH LOGIC!!!!!!!!!

          • cook2half

            Long before your quran was written

          • man-o-war

            Really?

          • cook2half

            I was just now watching a documentary on the New Testament. Yes there was a Temple and Jerusalem was their capital.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            yir and it was also wiped out long before the quran was written bcos everybody in the world hates israel

          • 5thDrawer

            Catching up after a week of ‘study’ somewhere else??

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            yir pretty much.

          • cook2half

            They can hate Israel, but they will only hurt themselves

            Zachariah 12:3 – “On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves.”

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            keep telling that to urself. but dont be surprised when israel is tossed in the garbage once again like it has been several times in history.

          • cook2half

            The Bible is better than your opinion lol

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            the bible is shit just like israel lol

          • cook2half

            Your quran is hated more than anything

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            my quran?

          • 5thDrawer

            Interestingly, Cookie, inside the Great Mosque in Damascus ….
            http://www.3dmekanlar.com/en/umayyad-mosque.html
            …. is the The tomb of the prophet Yahia (St. John the Baptist), in the eastern hall.
            (at least, his head)
            When I toured it, it was explained, that each time someone tried to move that tomb, for whatever reasons they wanted to, they simply could not. And thus, it is still there……
            DO the ‘downloads’ for a ‘modern’ tour, which I could not then …. but I see the ancient covered ‘souk’ was still there when they shot these ….

          • cook2half

            Nice stuff

          • 5thDrawer

            Yes Cookie. It is. Great Tech …. and I can take a tour of MANY places now without the risky and overly-aggravating airplane flights. :-)))

          • Hind Abyad

            IS destroyed it.. and many more..sad..
            Saint Maroun skull is in Syria.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            who said israel is a country? the happy swedish ppl dont for a fact

          • doron

            really ? :))))
            it’s more of the lefties in there who court the Muslim voters .and it’s temporary anyways
            the Happy Norwegian people already made a hard turn right, deporting i-legal immigrants and re opening Emigration cases for review, many Muslims lied on their asylum applications, so i hear (and so you know..)those are going out.
            it’s a new dawn coming to Europe and it’s always darkest just before it comes

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            i’m all for the deportion of illegal immigrants in any country – including illegal jewish immigration to palestine.
            now tell me more about the happy european countries. didnt they just yesterday voted for the recognition of palestine? i’m not denying that it was a token vote.

          • doron

            there was never a Palestine ..how can be an emigration to it?
            oh yeah and i’m pro that 🙂 was never against a land for the pretend people , on the contrary..the only way this balloon can burst is by letting it over inflate…short sighted people might not understand this but the easiest way to do it is give them the chance to do it themselves.
            plus, it will be an interesting war next one- fighting a state who is responsible for it actions instead of a group of gang members that international community does not hold responsible for their actions :))
            double plus- we can now stop giving them all this free electricity they take from us and not paying, we will not be forced to supply them water as we are now when the law say they are depended on us.
            I really don’t mind that, on the contrary I’m looking forward for the day they truly are a state.
            i’m not kidding- i truly believe that it’s a good thing for Israel.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            there was never an USA before it was created. There was never an australia before it was created. there were no countries in south america such as brazil before they were created. there were no arab countries before they were created. as for paelstine it had never the opportunity to get created but it wud be there if the country israel was that gentle to move back to a bundeslalalalaland.
            israel was there thousands of yrs ago, but it was also wiped out thousands of yrs ago bcos no one likes you. the only ones who actually treated u like humans (which u r not) were the muslims that u kill.
            as far as the “gang members” are concerned they r removed from the black list.
            if there r so many pluses then why didnt u go for it long time ago?

          • doron

            so when there will be a palistine- then we’ll talk 😉

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            🙂

          • doron

            palistine had every opportunity to be created- it started from the same spot as israel. the only difference is that they decided to “get arab” on us and kill us all..you know the rest..they lost and bitching about the “unfairness” of it all till today

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            if u dont wanna get killed by arabs then move back to europe

          • doron

            hmmm..i never belonged in Europe, i’m rooted i’m ME.me and my predecessors.
            and I’m not dead yet ,any arab that comes to kill me needs to know that it’s a highly likely possibility that he will be the one laying underground- simple
            which brings me back to your other comment- if you start a war, don’t complain when it ends in a different manner then you imagined 😉

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            Maybe u belong to the ME but the majority of the israelis came to the ME from Europe.
            No one wid start a war wid Israel if it moved back to Europe. Plain and simple

          • doron

            not true, most are ME, if you do the math it makes sense- most European Jews died in WWII and from the ones that left, only a fraction came to Israel.
            ME jews on the other hand were not harmed & came mostly to Israel, including the entire jewish population of Iraq, Maroco, Yeman..whole comunities

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            go to europe anyways.. how does it makes sense to leave one arab state be it iraq/marocco/ yemen due to anti-semitisme and go to another arab state palestine. they hate u all over the arab world. in europe they love u.

          • doron

            i would not go to Europe these days even if i had a EU passport, too many Muslims there right now that kill people- it’s safer where i was born, in the Jewish state.
            the Muslim’s wold’s hate don’t bother me one way or another..that’s all they are- haters and i’m not going to get offended by that anymore then i’d be offended of the sun raising in the east- it’s a fact of life and we got to live with it.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            i thought u were born in iraq? Now u were suddenly born in the jewish state?
            i donno why u think only muslims hate the jews? i have already told u that not only muslims hate u guys.
            b4 u started to kill muslims and muslim babies in particular they were the only ones who defended and protected the jews – a hugeeeeeeee mistake in retrospect. what else cud explain the fact that jews r still around in the ME. in fact muslims r excellent in terms of coexisting as opposed to europeans and jews. while their were no minorities other than christians in europe until recently and while the jews r cleansing muslim and christian palestinians alike the diversity in the majority muslim world has survived for well over 1000’s of yrs.

          • doron

            besides, it’s kind of hypocrite on your behalf, don’t you think..”in the name of justice”you want to deport me the “European Jew” to Europe, when you find out i’m from ME, you still want to deport me to Europe but now cause you “care for me” and don’t want me to be where there are anti Jews feelings… (what would be your pre-text when i contradict that?)
            yet, you are speaking from Europe right now.it is flooded by the same Arabs/Muslims you want to “protect” me from :))
            well no thank you, I’ll stay where i am and not leave for a place i will never be at home .

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            give palestine back to the palestinians and i wont deport u.

          • cook2half

            Its the thing that made those loud explosions in Damascus yesterday.. lol

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Looooooooooool, but your still an assssshole, loooooooooooòl

          • cook2half

            :-))

          • 5thDrawer

            According to Cookie, it’s ‘Judea and Samaria’ …. hohohohoho

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            israel is a part of germany. get a gps!

        • Hind Abyad

          Hi cookie.. Gaza engineer develops new technology to replace cement..cooked up “stuff” from their roots to the land, (looks Biblical)… http://linkis.com/almon.co/VHdr6
          I hope Netanyahu wont shoot the engineer :))

          • 5thDrawer

            Nice Link. Paraphrasing ….. “Necessity … the Mother of Invention.”
            Wonder if Syria has the same base materials.
            ‘Give a man a Brick Press, and a bit of food, and you shelter him for life.’ :-))

          • 5thDrawer

            Looks better than new homes in Damascus … although the ‘dome’ motif still shows.

        • Abu Hannibal

          Keep telling lies and hopefully one day they will become reality. Perhaps you need to adjust your understanding of reality and stop living in a fantasy land where you don’t see Israel as an occupier.

          • cook2half

            The only fantasy is the existence of a “Palestinian people” created and spread by Arafat in the 70s. There was no Palestinian people or nation when Jordan had the West Bank, was there you hypocrite

          • Hind Abyad

            In 1882, the Jewish population of Palestine was about 24,000. In 1914, the entire population of Palestine was estimated at 634,133 Muslim and Christian Arabs and 45,413 Jews. In 1920, after the British mandate, the official census showed the Arab population, both Muslim and Christian, at nearly 600,000, still greatly exceeding the Jews, who numbered 66,574. Until 1948 the Arab population continued to exceed the Jewish by roughly 2:1. Ibid., p.25. “the last official British census in 1931 found Arabs in Jerusalem outnumbered Jews 2:1 with surrounding areas averaging 98% Arab!
            The Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question in the United Nations found in 1948 that, except for Haifa, ‘the Arabs have a clear majority over the Jews.’ Ibid., p. 26. “So much for the Israeli.. claim that for centuries Jews in Jerusalem and surrounding areas have outnumbered a tiny Arab population!
            Let’s be fair, they were promised independence as Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan..they had no army they were peaceful people

          • Watch Dog

            pallastine is made up there all refugees From Jordan..They only want Israeli because it is developed not like the slums they live in. They take all the billions from USA..And make bombs and tunnels..While leaders of Hammas live like billionares..You are very misinformed ..You don’t want peace you want Israel you will have to die trying

          • Hind Abyad

            Maybe this will shut your doggy mouth and the man’s doggy copy pastes: I don’t want peace with mental diseased Zionists i would never trust them…go tell your father not to make children if he can’t afford education ..tell your father: “The dogs bark, but the caravan passes on..”

          • vs

            “Palestinian people” created in KGB in Soviet Union http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=29207

          • Arafat

            Abu proves the following…

            “The Muslim ignorance of history is just jaw dropping.”

            Zealots don’t care very much about reality.

          • Hind Abyad

          • Watch Dog

            Occupier the Arabs sided with The Nazi In world war 1 and Two.You are lucky Israel doesn’t take all Palestinian.You people are traders this has been prove in history.You lost the six day war you got destroyed.You are lucky They didn’t take all of Palestine..Keep pushing and you will be leveled..

          • Hind Abyad

            To paraphrase Arafatus who should stop being a moron;

            “The Zionist knowledge of history is jaw dropping.

            “Zealots don’t care much about reality”.

            The Pompous little Watching Dog: Occupiers the Arabs sided with The Nazi In world war1 and two. (?)

            Zionism was created by Russian Fascist Jabotinsky in 1916, the Fascists Russian Jews killed the Romanoff family. Anarchists and Nihilists rejected religion and morality “The Possessed”, in Dostoevsky.
            ISIS are Moslem Nihilists.

            Fyodor Dostoyevsky helped popularize this sense of nihilism by offering up the savage caricatures of left-wing political operatives that we see, above all, in The Devils (also called The Possessed; 1871).
            The chief “devil” in this book, Peter Verkhovensky, is a self-described nihilist notable for his desire to bring about terrible destruction and for his utter lack of concern about what might follow that destruction. Peter Verkhovensky’s real-life prototype, the notorious anarchist Sergei Nechaev (1847–1882), had written in the Catechism of a Revolutionary (1869). “The revolutionary disdains all doctrinairism and repudiated all peaceful science. He knows one science only: the science of destruction.” Third, the term nihilism came to be used, again in political life, in a sympathetic sense to denote the Russian revolutionary movement broadly peaking termed nihilism. Anarchists Emma Goldman (1869–1940) and Alexander Berkman… (1870–1936), both Russian immigrants to the United States, used the term nihilist in their memoirs to refer to the heroes of the Russian revolutionary movement.

            Emma Goldman-“Comrade Reynolds resents the contention of the Jews that Palestine had been their homeland two thousand years ago. He insists that this is of no importance as against the Arabs who have lived in Palestine for generations.
            I do not think either claim of great moment, unless one believes in the monopoly of land and the right of Governments in every country to keep out the newcomers.

            Surely Reginald Reynolds knows that the Arab people have about much to say who should or should not come into their country as the under-privileged of other lands. In point of fact our friend admits as much when he states that the Arab feudal lords had sold the land to the Jews without the knowledge of the Arab people. This is of course nothing new in our world.

            The capitalist class everywhere owns, controls and disposes of its wealth to suit itself. The masses, whether Arab, English or any other, have very little to say in the matter”

            NB. Nothing has changed and we know who sold Palestine in WW1.

          • Watch dog

            They Arabs sided with the Nazis .The third axis ..There were on Hitler side ..They Over throne buy The English and USA.You side with The Nazis .And lost the Middle East was Over Throne.Just like the Moslems have been doing for years taking land from the weak .They tryed to take over the whole World..Now the tides have turned and you cry like babes the Zionist took my land .You lost the six day war …This is Israel land get that through you head..They are not giving you anything .You keep trying to take it with forse..But you are the week ones now..Give out some candy when you kill innocent people..You only understand one thing .

          • 5thDrawer

            This is, of course, why some education is not done. 😉
            Not, of course, that anyone can go back in time and change a history. (even if we dream of that with ‘Time Machines’.) Going forward requires, however, SOME knowledge of what caused all the past screw-ups, and what kind of thinking did it.
            True Anarchists, for instance, are folks we could all do without.

          • Hind Abyad

            Education is now controlled, Israeli government decides school curriculum, they even forced France to take out the word “Nabka” from school books..but leave the word “Shoa”
            explaining don’t remember how..i think people are afraid to be labelled antisemitic, the editor would have his business wrecked.

          • 5thDrawer

            Probably some kind of ‘retaliation’ for all the ‘piggy’ cartoons Hamas pumps out for their kids. But of course, wrong to make ‘printers’ change what was written in what is supposed to be a text-book … imagine if later in life they find an earlier edition. 😉
            It’s shoa gonna confuse them, at the least, when the neighbour asks what nabka they used… Assuming the neighbour recognizes that these were the same folks who were supposed to look like Porky.
            I agree that ‘antisemitic’ labelling is SUCH a crock, when used to vilify someone else’s little customs – for instance like wine and Christmas trees and actually saying the word prefixed by ‘Merry’ in a greeting of goodwill. It tends to kill the ‘goodwill’. Or even makes some of us shout it back when the retailer’s slave says ‘Happy Holiday’.
            I am old enough to be an irreverent bastard – and I’m not on holiday anyway.
            MERRY CHRISTMAS! :-)))
            On (Hanika,Hanukkah,Chanukah) and Ramadan I’ll return their ‘Happy&Peaceful’ greetings – in the time-periods they occur.
            (none make sense – like Easter – changed that one to Spring Break. 😉
            But isn’t this just like the ‘new-talk’ of nasty ‘Phobes’??? Or that real old gem, ‘Racist’?
            Yup, A word used most often where it doesn’t apply at all.
            The ‘Business Heads’ only worry about losing a shekel. Idiots.

          • 5thDrawer

            Furthur note. In Lebanon there are no history books.
            No-one knows what the right words are. :-))))))))

          • Hind Abyad

            I don’t like this Party atmosphere about Christmas, shopping like crazy, money making, money spending folly, there is nothing religious about it. It became clownishness pagan thing.

          • 5thDrawer

            I skipped tonight’s ‘party’ – even if it’s a pile of family – the kids especially don’t need the cold germs. (Damn Nose…)(the snacks might have been better than my cooking however)
            I was always the ‘last gasp’ shopper … had to be ‘in the mood’ – and only for certain individuals. I felt it more as I experienced it – in youth – a ‘child’s day’ and moments of a time in life. The ‘Magic’ of Christmas was real enough … in ‘my’ time … and I attempted to pass some on. Now, it’s memories and sad reflections. What can we say?
            The ‘shopping shows’ and crazy drivers and crowds are a pain in the …
            Avoided always as much as possible. 🙂
            There are ‘good moments’ in life. But life changes.
            And the important ‘gifts’ can’t always be shopped for. If one lights a face, it’s good.
            There’s nothing I wish …. but some smiles I can’t give where they are needed.

          • Hind Abyad

            Christmas was nice in Lebanon when i was a child, It’s for children. I think Lebanon today looks more and more like the ..ooops..(the West)
            PS. When you light a face it can do miracles, i swear.
            Bonne nuit.

      • doron

        it’s not true – PA has the option to apply to Hague and if it happens, so would Israel .(Israel can’t file a complain till PA applies and accepted)
        the option is there, but the PA chose is not to do it .
        I imagine (assume ;)) that PA will not do it cause :
        a: the court will burst the bubble PA cultivating about “war criminal Israel” and leave the PA with no more illusions to sell the people
        b: PA itself, including it’s Hamas & PLO leaders would find themselves charged with real war crimes.
        they say one thing and act the other way around for 10 years now, doesn’t it make you wonder about their true intentions?

        • Arafat

          While Israelis laud their scientists, their artists, their
          doctors and multiple Nobel Prize nominees and recipients, Palestinians have a long and ignominious tradition of extolling the virtues of those who commit mass murder, slaughter
          innocents on buses and hijack commercial airliners. Public squares and streets are named after them and their children are taught to emulate them. The contrast between
          Israeli and Palestinian society could not be starker. One society celebrates and encourages progress and life while the other has morphed itself into a death cult, steeped in perverted traits that are an anathema to Western civilization.

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Theyre both death cults, wake up oolair.

          • Hind Abyad

            Nobel Prize are Noble when they support Zionism, Einstein was not.. Albert Einstein, on April 17, 1938, in a speech at the Commodore Hotel in New
            York City, said:

            “I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from practical consideration, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain — especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state. ” [1]

            In January, 1946, in a reply to the question of whether refugee settlement in Palestine demanded a Jewish state, Einstein told the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry,

            “The State idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with narrow-minded and economic obstacles. I believe it is bad. I have always been against it.” [2]

            PS. We see now the prophecy…what a mess.

          • Hind Abyad

            Seams you don’t follow Israeli actions, you’re not trustworthy.

        • Hind Abyad

          I said About This?

          UN Report: Israel in Regular Contact with Syrian rebels including ISIS.

          Then This
          http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/12/lebanon-israel-violation-airspace-army-atatck.html

          “At this particular time, the Israeli air force flew over the Riyaq airport and the two barracks of the Lebanese army in charge of security in the region, to spy on this particular site. Israel was spying on a Lebanese
          military location, which may be targeted by Syrian armed opposition fighters. This happened amid Western media reports about the cooperation between Israeli authorities
          and some armed Syrians in southern Syria. This raised legitimate concern among the Lebanese that Israel is spying on them to serve the fighters. The transfer of data collected from the Israeli fly overs of main locations of the Lebanese army, to armed groups, may be of great
          service to the latter in their attacks against the army and their attempts to breach its bases. This might also benefit Israel itself, as these steps will increase pressure on Hezbollah through terrorists, from the northeast to Hezbollah’s areas of deployment where it confronts the
          Israeli army. Thus, the routine Israeli airspace violations turned into a hostile and serious step that required an anti-aircraft response by the Lebanese army, which is a rare step to be taken in Lebanese airspace and territory…..continue

          Jean Aziz
          إقرأ باللغة العربية

    • Perhaps you should review the fact that this “temporary” occupation has now lasted for nearly five decades and that Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Conventions has been broken nearly 600,000 times.

      As far as being hypocritical, you might want to examine the fact that the state of Israel pretends to be a democracy when really it is a colonial ethnocratic-theocracy.

      • doron

        even though i might agree with you on the first paragraph, i can only smile a tolerant smile at the second one.

        • Arafat

          As for tolerance – the only tolerance Muslims are being taught – is that others tolerate their intolerance!

          • Abu Hannibal

            Arafat sure has grown senile in his after life – perhaps Yassir and Ariel became gay lovers in hell and their skewed political views are starting to rub off…

          • Arafat

            Silencing debate by name-calling.

            Silencing debate by rioting.

            Silencing debate by making stuff up.

            Silencing debate by spinning jihad.

            Silencing debate by beheading.

            Silencing debate by death threats.

            Silencing debate by theft and rape.

            Silencing debate by cold shoulder.

            Silencing debate by taqiyya.

            Silencing debate by throwing acid.

            Normative Islam, rather than an aberration.

          • Hind Abyad

            copy paste from JP

        • Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Dont smile you smug creep, just because moslems have the violent stereo type doesn’t make you people instant angels. On the contrary, they are open, honest and straight forward warmongers whereas you guys are deviant, sneaky and instigators of violent wars. You’re actions are catching up with you its just a matter of time.

          • Arafat

            This me smiling. 🙂

            ==

            The
            problem with being a Muslim

            They’re not happy in Gaza …

            They’re not happy in Egypt ..

            They’re not happy in Libya …

            They’re not happy in Morocco …..

            They’re not happy in
            Iran ….

            They’re not happy in
            Iraq ..

            They’re not happy in
            Yemen ….

            They’re not happy in
            Afghanistan ..

            They’re not happy in
            Pakistan ..

            They’re not happy in
            Syria ..

            They’re not happy in
            Lebanon ..

            SO, WHERE ARE THEY
            HAPPY?

            They’re happy in
            England .

            They’re happy in
            Canada .

            They’re happy in
            Australia ..

            They’re happy in
            France …

            They’re happy in Italy
            ..

            They’re happy in
            Germany ..

            They’re happy in
            Sweden ..

            They’re happy in the
            USA ..

            They’re happy in
            Norway …

            They’re happy in
            Holland ..

            They’re happy in
            Denmark .

            Basically, they’re
            happy in every country that is not Muslim and unhappy in every country that is!

            AND WHO DO THEY BLAME?

            Not Islam.

            Not their leadership.

            Not themselves.

            THEY BLAME THE
            COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

            AND THEN; They want to
            change those countries to be like….

            THE COUNTRY THEY CAME
            FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY!

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Amen.

          • Hind Abyad

            😉

          • 5thDrawer

            An oldie, but a goodie … hehehe … although happiness seems a myth when people are starving in any place.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            in the happy scandinavia 20% of the population is on antidepressants

          • 5thDrawer

            Looking down on a world at war, I’m surprised more of them are not.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            first of all “down”????? when there is no up and down in the universe howcome they are “up”??
            second, as if they are affected by the horrors their governments commit.

          • 5thDrawer

            Have you seen the height of the cliffs around fiords ?? I’d say ‘down’. Certainly higher than me, a lot of those Scandinavians. At least they have a few alluvial plains to launch a boat from. When all the ice melts, they will still have the Reindeer high and dry. 😉
            (Santa Klaus is safe.)
            By the way, I hope you’re not in Florida …..
            Perhaps I should have used the terms .. ‘over’, and ‘under’. ‘Top’ and ‘bottom’.
            Mind you, if it was conventional to hang a map with the South Pole at the top, you would have to take the time to flip all the names over so you could read them … a huge task.
            (hmmmm … unless written in Arabic and Hebrew ‘characters’ … in which case it probably wouldn’t matter ….)
            :-)))))))))

          • Hind Abyad

            The new Israeli generation..

          • MekensehParty

            In happy Iran 90% of the population wishes it had antidepressants.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            really? even if that was the case its pretty funny that u compare the happy west wid unhappy iran just for the sake of feeling better about urself

          • MekensehParty

            are you talking to a mirror while reversing words?

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            are u? financially and politically life may be more challenging for iranians and all middle easterners for that matter but even so they r far more happy than westerners bcos everyday they r surrounded by family and friends… what do westerners do after a long day at work? they go home to an empty one room flat all alone.

          • MekensehParty

            Success, your brainwashing is now fully complete.
            May time and reality show you one day how stupid your words were.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            i pointed out that despite all ur “secularism”, “democracy” and “freedoms” 20% of the westerners r on antidepressants. 20% is such a huge number proving that ur system is no where near perfect as u claim it to be why i dont want u to bring the ME any of those.
            i’m not saying the iranian model is perfect either, what i’m saying is that if u take care of ur own 20% depressed, we’ll take care of our 90%. and we dont need u nor ur democracy to fix that for us. all we need is u to take care of ur 20% and let us alone!

          • MekensehParty

            delusion is a perfect side-effect of brainwashing
            google the letter A and start learning from there
            oops I forgot, they banned anti-brainwashing google in your prison of a country.

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            talk about side effects. i believe that ur forgetfulness among other shortcomings that u suffer from is the side effect of the antidepressants that u r addicted to.

          • 5thDrawer

            Alcohol is their biggest ‘under the table’ trade … 😉

          • doron

            I heard it was Opium

          • doron

            LOL

          • doron

            why do muslim have violate stereotype? 🙂

          • 5thDrawer

            Your English violates my eyeballs ….

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            :))))))

          • doron

            sorry 5th,
            sometimes my best is not good enough

          • 5thDrawer

            Me sorry too Doron … :-))) … but you threw a new word in and I just HAD to use it. :-))))

          • doron

            didn’t take it the wrong way.. 😉

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            israel in a nutshell

          • doron

            2 cents arguments :))

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            correct… sprelling lol

          • doron

            1 cent argument..

          • TheUSequalsTheIS

            it was no argument, it was a statement 😉

          • doron

            1 cent statment then 🙂

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Because they are easily influenced by you guys to be so.

          • doron

            they also stereotyped as cry babies who blame all their shortcomings on other people, can you imagine why?

          • Hind Abyad

            Just transfer the stereotypical ‘cry babies to you’… there will be no misunderstanding.

          • doron

            but it’s about arabs, not jews.
            i.e:
            you* start a war with israel, israel kick your butts , you* run crying and blame anybody but yourself.you never even attempt to rise above this, you* just keep crying

            * “you” applies to all Arabs through out the years since 1948 war Egyptian/Syrians/Jordanians/Iraqis/Lebanese/PLO/Hamas etc etc etc

          • Hind Abyad

            It’s about you..

          • doron

            lol…
            kindergarten arguments ..congrats, you just convinced every 5 years old around here.

          • ¶•

            That’s too big of an age now or you meant her and her supporters in here are of that age !?? If so then its better they talk among themselves. They are too old for others !!

          • watchdog

            You sound like member of iss or maybe hammass.honest you are a hypocrite. They take money from USA.billions live in Paris with arafats wife live like kings while .they steal all the money and build tunnels .and bombs.fire rockerts from schools playgrounds.and cry when Israel says enough and responds.feed your kids..then they give out candy name streets when the kill innocent people..You are member of the devil you will see 67 virgins in hell..

          • Maborlz Ez-Hari

            I thought it was 76?

          • 5thDrawer

            hehehe … maybe 666 or 999 ?? (Ask the Chinese which house number to buy …. ;-))

      • Arafat

        Let’s see. Out of the 22 Arab countries, zero are democracies. The Arabs say that the one democracy in the picture -Israel — is evil, and that if only the Arabs in the vicinity (the Palestinian Arabs) were allowed to set up their own nation next to Israel, they would suddenly stop attacking Israel and would become nice and democratic. Yeah, right.

        • MekensehParty

          It is a defeat for Israel to start comparing itself to Arabs. Israel must be comparing itself with modern, democratic and free countries. If it’s portraying itself as a step better than the Arabs then the whole idea of a state of Israel has failed miserably.
          PS: Tunisia is an Arab democracy.

        • TheUSequalsTheIS

          democracy is overestimated.

      • watchdog

        You are a iss in wolfs clothing.The Arabs attached Israel in the 6 day war ..You you lost under the rules of war Israel doesn’t have to give anything back..They could of took all Palestine…They gave back Gaza.You thank them by firing 500 rockets a day.They try too make peace .You call for there destruction.You don’t even recognize them..You don’t want peace .You look like a over weight loser …with A Nazi background.

        • MekensehParty

          Your reply has nothing to do with what he said. He stated undeniable facts, you’re stating assumptions and insults. When you defend the Jewish state blindly what’s the difference between you and the ISIS guy who is defending his Caliphate (a Muslim state) blindly?
          Wrongdoing must be pointed out. The truth must be said. What Michael said is very true and was said with respect. You ought to learn from him instead of insulting him.

          • watchdog

            I state facts you don’t want to hear the truth..You don’t want peace the only thing you understand is IDF response..To your war crimes…

          • MekensehParty

            More assumptions that limit your analytical skills.
            I recognize israel’s right for existence more as a de facto presence rather than a just or divine one. History is full of such examples where populations moved from one place and grabbed the lands of others and settled in their homes. It was never fair but so is life.
            I don’t defend palestinians who tried to do exactly the same as the Israelis did, moved to another land and (tried) to grab it and settle as in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria…
            Both Israelis and Palestinians have done the same unfair and unjust things, saying one is better than the other is wrong.
            While many Palestinians do not want peace, many Israelis do not want peace either. I like to support those on BOTH sides who want peace and after the next elections I’m hoping that the balance will tilt in the favor of that group.
            If not… Well popcorn ain’t Gona kill me watching the warmongers continue the fight.

          • Hind Abyad

            I wonder who began that infernal circle…

          • vs

            orabs

          • Hind Abyad

            Yes Israeli pro-Phoenicia Lebanon…have a nice stay.

    • Arafat

      Modern Muslims have religious conflict with: Hindus in Kashmir;
      Christians in Nigeria, Egypt, and Bosnia; atheists in Chechnya; Baha’is in
      Iran; Animists in Darfur; Buddhists in Thailand; each other in Iraq, Pakistan,
      Somalia, and Yemen; Jews in Israel; Why is Islam involved in more sectarian and religious conflicts than any other religion today? In fact, why is Islam the
      only religion in conflict with every single one of today’s major world
      religions?

      But you think belligerent pugnacious Islam has legitimate grievances in this
      constant conflict, and that, for example in Palestine, Islam is just defending
      its own reasonable interests?

      No, not at bottom. At bottom what we have in Islam is a violent,
      expansionist totalitarianism. That’s why Islam is in conflict all over the
      world with every other religion.

      • Maborlz Ez-Hari

        Your stating the obvious, if you ask wargame they are only doing as the prophet did and are only being obedient as the prophet taught them to fight. It’s not the moslems who are at fault, its the creed they follow.

        • TheUSequalsTheIS

          exactly. it went wrong the minute some muslims groups such as al-qaida, boko haram, isis and others started to follow the orders of the US

      • TheUSequalsTheIS

        the west also has conflicts with russia, china, india, south east asia, the entire ME and the entire south america.

        • 5thDrawer

          Well, I guess you’ll be happy that EVERYONE including the USA is now kissing Fat-Kimmy’s ass in N. Korea …. the one western comedy film he doesn’t want to see is not going to be shown. They all caved in, to his VIRUS …. :-)))))
          ALL BOW TO THE ULTIMATE CODERS
          (Neo would have been impressed…)

    • doron is a moron

      Is it unorthodoxed for a jew to criticize Israel’s inhumane practices? Why the blasphemy over someone simply doing what any member of a democracy would do? Oh wait, I forgot, we have to give Israel special treatment, and there are always caveats that apply in their interpretation of “Democracy”.

      Doron, I call you a moron because I expect you to know better. Instead you come across as a tired, broken record apologist who sanctions the daily genocide undertaken by the government of Israel.

      • Guest

        Moron makes a good point, Nothing gets Israelis more pissed than Jews who side with humanity.

      • Watch Dog

        Why is always Israelis fault.The have been trying to make peace.You fire 500 rockets a day .Blow up busses.Slit innocent people throat.Blow up bars restaurants.Call for there destruction.Dont even recognize them .They gave Gaza back you thank them buy increasing rockets.Then when they respond you cry .Talk is cheap lets see you make a afford..

      • doron

        haha..apologistic????
        you confuse educating with apologizing,
        have no idea who you are and don’t really care .

  • 5thDrawer

    ” ‘Love and support’ …. although small events like beating a protester to death with rifle-butts yesterday sort of drives me nuts.”

  • watchdog

    This why there is know peace in Israel.Because of these trouble makers.The same type of extremest that are holding people hostage in Australia…When will you people stand up .Quit blaming everybody and look in the mirror..