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Islamic State Training Pilots in Military Jets, report

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ISIS release a video in which it showed captured Syrian Air Force MiG-21
ISIS release a video in which it showed captured Syrian Air Force MiG-21

Former Iraqi military officers who have joined Islamic State are training pilots to fly three captured Syrian military jets, a monitoring group said Friday.

The officers, who served in the Iraqi military during the 24-year rule of Saddam Hussein, are conducting the training at the captured al-Jarrah military airport east of Aleppo in northern Syria, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

The Observatory, citing unnamed sources, said the aircraft were believed to be MiG-21s and MiG-23s that were seized at Syrian air bases in the provinces of Aleppo and Raqqa after the bases were captured by Islamic State forces. The organization didn’t report what weaponry, if any, the aircraft were carrying.

The claims, which the Observatory said were based on eyewitness reports to monitors, couldn’t be independently confirmed.

The Observatory is a U.K.-based group that has a network of antigovernment activists in Syria who supply accounts on fighting in the country, now in the fourth year of a civil war.

WSJ

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24 responses to “Islamic State Training Pilots in Military Jets, report”

  1. Btru2u Avatar
    Btru2u

    Imagine the embarrassment if they were to take down nato planes.

    1. MekensehParty Avatar
      MekensehParty

      That’s what Saddam said about his army

      1. Btru2u Avatar
        Btru2u

        I remember saddam saying , the war in IRAQ (also know as the sham) will be the mother of all battles.” could prove very true” especially if the kuffar alliance are defeated…

        1. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
          Maborlz Ez-Hari

          Your a lousy waste of existance aren’t you. Dissapear your using up the air other animals could use. The only kaffir is you, the kaffir is everything that you write, keep dreaming the world powers are toying with your false hopes get ready for a sad ending and more humiliation you dumb arse camel turd.

          1. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            That word, ‘Defeat’, is strangely used, isn’t it? I think it’s another translation problem there. Something like the word ‘resist’, the concept in the meaning really doesn’t match how it is used. I really believe that translators must do a better job, or try to find words that mean something ‘real’.
            For example …
            Israel sits around in Tyre for a few years … then agrees to go ‘home’.
            That translates into ‘Defeat’.
            Israel stays at home. That is translated as resisting it.
            The same translations are used about Americans in Iraq. They agree to go home, they are ‘defeated’.
            I have a feeling there is no real Arabic word for either of these English words to be translated from … although there must be one which is handily used for ‘Attack’ since everyone does it all the time …. but even there, using it properly in concept is a little ‘off’. America is begged to return to Iraq, and that seems to be an ‘attack’ in translation …. but throwing rockets at Israel is ‘resisting’.
            Rudyard Kipling may have been quite correct.
            There are no translatable words to be used for the meetings.

            I don’t think there’s one for ‘kuffar’ either. It really doesn’t exist.
            Hmmmm .. perhaps it’s only slang …

          2. Btru2u Avatar
            Btru2u

            Defeat just like in the days of the crusades, is not only military , but also ideological, , even tough it took 2 centuries to fulfill.
            And FYI , Kuffar means the denier of Allah and his prophet (peace be upon him).
            I hope that clears things up for you.

          3. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            That means the kuffar are mostly a group of people who are more intelligent than non kuffars.

          4. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            Thank you Btru2u … defeat is just that .. and the acceptance of it, defines it.
            Now .. that kuffar bit … I see it’s problem in the definition …
            That ADDED line … ‘and his prophet’.
            Since everyone believes there’s a God/Allah, they could probably get along if they didn’t also need to believe that prophets had some variation OF equality ‘from&of’ God.
            Could we then say that using that line makes just everyone everywhere ‘kuffar’ because they all have different prophets that they like?
            I know it’s meant in a derogatory way … but hell, they used to say it in that way about garbage-men too. Now it’s a great job to do.

          5. Btru2u Avatar
            Btru2u

            The Difference is simple, Jews were the chosen people until they strayed from the righteous path , Then Jesus was sent to reestablish Gods law, as the prophet of God , when some of the Jews rejected him they became kafir (deniers), Christians then held the right message of God through Jesus, until they strayed by changing Gods word with their own hands, and destroying the old laws, through his alleged ” cruci-fiction”.. So then Mohammed was sent as the “Last Prophet” in the middle of the Dark ages as a mercy and final chance /Messenger to mankind , and to take humanity from darkness into the light, (which did happen) and by sealing an unchanged permanent message to mankind through the quran and the prophet”s (PBUH)Sunna (example)’so whoever rejected that has rejected the word of God and became kafir. In the end no other religion will be accepted except Islam. This is a direct message to mankind from God .
            You can take the word Kafir how you like but at the end of the day, if you reject any one of God prophets , you have condemned yourself to hell.
            So I would probably say Kuffar is not a derogatory term as much as it is one of pity, as no one wishes eternal hellfire even to his worst enemy.
            So be warned ,reject God’s word and prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him ) at your own peril, or accept him for eternal salvation, that is a no brainer to me. But people who have crossed the line might never be allowed to receive guidance from the almighty, , as they have associated partners with God , gave him a son which they used as a sacrificial lamb and excuse to do major sins , and rejected his word.
            May Allah save his sincere followers,

          6. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Isaias (Isaiah) 2:3
            And many people shall go, and say: Come and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob, and he will teach us his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall come forth from Sion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

            1 John 4:1
            Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

            Romans 10:9
            For if thou confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him up from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

            John 3:18
            He that believeth in him is not judged. But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

            Galatians 1:8
            But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.

            Matthew 18:6
            But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.

            1 John 5:13
            These things I write to you, that you may know that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the Son of God.

            Acts Of Apostles 10:43
            To him all the prophets give testimony, that by his name all receive remission of sins, who believe in him.

            John 20:31
            But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God: and that believing, you may have life in his name.

          7. Btru2u Avatar
            Btru2u

            I glad you know what you are is as you described, and thanks for showing us who we don’t want to be.

          8. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            You’re welcome, sweetie. 😉 I’m sure Maborlz doesn’t mind me replying … :-)))

          9. Maborlz Ez-Hari Avatar
            Maborlz Ez-Hari

            Not at all, 5th.

      2. Btru2u Avatar
        Btru2u

        I don’t think they will take on the combined kuffar airforces, more logical target could be latest technology weapons manufactures such as

        AAI Corporation
        Alliant Techsystems
        Auto-Ordnance Company
        BAE Systems Inc.
        Boeing
        Bushmaster Firearms International
        Colt’s Manufacturing Company
        General Atomics
        General Electric (primarily through GEAE)
        General Dynamics
        Honeywell
        Lockheed-Martin
        Northrop Grumman Corporation
        Raytheon Corporation
        Royal Aquarius Empire Corporation
        Smith & Wesson
        Springfield Armory, Inc.
        THOR Global Defense Group
        United Technologies (primarily through Pratt and Whitney, Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation
        BAE Systems
        Cobham plc
        MBDA
        Rolls-Royce
        Babcock
        GKN
        QinetiQ[2]

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar
          5thDrawer

          And all THEIR stocks are going up. :-))
          Nice listing … did you tell your broker??

          1. Btru2u Avatar
            Btru2u

            GOOD TIME TO SELL, …. or switch superannuation funds,

          2. 5thDrawer Avatar
            5thDrawer

            If I could do either buy or sell, I would.

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Imagine that these planes can actually fly. :-))))
      But at least they won’t be able to fly 747’s ….. we don’t need the tourists.

    3. nagy_michael2 Avatar
      nagy_michael2

      I am sure Nato is watching them too.. i am sure ISIS have some Iraqi pilots who can fly them as well. But also they would be destroyed the moment they try to attack american or Nato Planes.. ISIS arrogance getting the best of them. I hope them, Iran and Hezbollah get what they all deserve. vanish from this planet.. and I hope they take Bashar and Nassrallah and all the freakin ayatollahs.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        All yah gotta do is slash the tyres … the spares were burned up in Lebanon. :-)))))

        1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
          nagy_michael2

          Good one..

    4. doron Avatar
      doron

      not likely, i would worry more of kamikazi attacks. not easy stopping a suicide jet targeting an oil field or electricity plant

      and regardless, even if they can’t fly the damn thing and only pretending to- it forces IS enemies to adjust to this possibility as well, clever.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        Well, they at least love the paranoia the news-story sets up. :-)))

  2. The real lebanese Avatar
    The real lebanese

    Now a no fly zone is of even greater importance if this is true.

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