Hezbollah Is NOT "Resistance".

by Ghassan Karamhezbollah parade 10

Every once in a while there is an attempt to confute what is otherwise clear. That usually occurs when an entity is not well served if the clear and unobstructed understanding of an idea or concept is to prevail. This is when it becomes essential to manipulate the truth and spin the facts in an effort to obstruct clarity and replace it by an intentionally false interpretation of reality that is masquerading as the truth. This type of obfuscation has been the primary rationale behind the self serving use of the term resistance by Hezbollah and its allies.

The unfortunate thing is that they appear to have succeeded in their effort to such an extent that very few if any, bother to call them on their misuse and even abuse of the term resistance. It is ironic that no one in the Lebanese political structure has found it important to set the record straight and to challenge Hezbollah on its misuse of the term that it seems to have monopolized.

The right to oppose any power be it a domestic leader or an invader can be traced over 2000 years. Historians speak of the Chinese who have initially solidified the right of people to rebel against their rulers when such rulers lose legitimacy and rule unjustly. This same right can also be seen in Islamic jurisprudence where it is said that “there is no obedience in sin”. The right to resist and wage revolution was also articulated clearly by Thomas Aquinas and later on by both the American and the French revolution about 250 years ago. If this is not enough then we must never forget the teaching of Thoreau about the right to use civil disobedience that was later adopted and applied successfully by Gandhi in India and Nelson Mandela in South Africa.

It is no secret that the right to self determination and the right to resist abuse, injustice and exploitation have been recognized as an inalienable right. Yes resistance is important and it is intrinsic. What it is not is the attempt to monopolize it by abrogating it to a subgroup of people who are intent on using pure raw military power to disenfranchise and even subjugate others. The right to resist, to dissent, to rebel and disobey belongs to all people, it is the most universal of ideas. It does not belong to one race, one religion, one subgroup or what is worse to one political party. Resistance as an idea is as close to sacred as one can get and any attempt to transform it to a provincial concept must be viewed as nothing short of sacrilege.

The Lebanese political system, an almost perfectly dysfunctional one to start with because of its sectarian base and political feudalism has been rendered perfectly dysfunctional by the Hezbollah PR machine that seems to have convinced practically everyone that the term “resistance” has only one meaning and that is to describe every kind of activity by the political party Hezbollah whether in the political, social, economic or even the military field. That is obviously totally flawed use of the term.

The cost of such a misuse of the term is great. One could easily suggest that the deep divisions in the current Lebanese body politic are directly attributable to this confusion. Those who are strongly opposed to the phrase “people, resistance, army” do so NOT because they do not believe in their right and in the right of all people all over the world to resist but because they do not believe for a second, and they are right to have such a belief, that resistance is not to be treated as a pure monopoly that belongs to a small group and that the group in question insists that it is entitled to be treated as a special entity that is above the law and that it can and does use its military privilege to dictate to the state. They demand support from everyone and are obligated to no one.  Once the concept of resistance is no longer used as if it is the private property of a sub group of society then I assure you that there would be no need to disagree about the meaning of a phrase whose meaning can be deduced from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Resistance belongs to all and is as intrinsic as any right can be. It is not the property of Hezbollah despite all its sacrifices in fighting the Israeli occupation forces.  The concept is what justifies the acts and not the reverse. Exclusivity in resistance is a contradiction , it is in its universality that resistance attains its sacredness.

  • 5thDrawer

    THANK YOU GHASSAN. Absolutely ‘right on’ article.
    Freedom to think, is freedom to resist.
    The ‘right’ of the individual.
    Not enough are allowed that.

    • ghassan Karam

      5thDrawer,
      Thank you for the kind words. To argue, as Hezbollah does, that resistance belongs to only one group and that the group is above the law is similar to saying that freedom belongs to only one group and all others are to remain un free. That is flawed logic.

      • MekensehParty

        I have called on Christians to form their own resistance against Israeli occupation for years, to arm themselves and stand ready to “defend” Lebanon. Unfortunately the Christians are a bunch of cowards led by idiots. Some even surrendered their god given right for resistance to Hezbollah and made it official by signing a document granting that right to the Shia.
        It’s a country that deserves everything that’s happening to it…

        • ghassan Karam

          MeknesehParty,
          Great observation.

  • Guest

    One cannot accept this so called “Resistance” if by its very nature it is somehow resisting the government of Lebanon by being a force onto itself outside and independent of government control which has led the Lebanese Resistance into fighting against the Syrian Resistance at all costs in Syria. Thus, the question to ask is what makes the Lebanese Resistance more legitimate than the Syrian Resistance? Answer: Ayotollah Komeni of Iran said that every resistance in the Arab Spring is legitimate except the one in Syria. Who is he to decide for all of the Arabs what is legitimate or not?

    • ghassan Karam

      Guest
      you are right on both points and that is why I ended the short column by suggesting that “resistance” cannot , by definition, be made exclusive.

    • ghassan Karam

      Guest
      you are right on both points and that is why I ended the short column by suggesting that “resistance” cannot , by definition, be made exclusive.

  • nagy_michael2

    Thank you Ghassan for a great article.. The only thing Hezbollah is not resisting is chaos and destruction. they seem to embrace this mentality and never let go. I have not seen them other than being obstructive to every government that was formed. Nassrallah want to decide war and peace as if he owns Lebanon. That’s why we see the Rise of Hajj Assir and many others. Unfortunately Al Nusra is exploiting the anger of Sunnis and capitalizing on it being trying to be their champion and protectors. Now we have to handle two extreme organizations instead of one. Unfortunately Hezbollah do not admit it, but IMO they made Al Nusra in Lebanon and Fatah Al Islam. Of course the keep blaming the funding of Qatar and Saudi to help create the feud. But I really doubt the majority of the Sunnis want to be aligned with Al Nusra with the exception of the few. Unfortunately Hezbollah is very happy to push the Sunnis into the fold of Al Nusra so they can present themselves as the sole Protector of Lebanon. Nassrallah have no respect for the army despite the formula, army and resistance. the last one Hezbollah do not even recognize i am afraid to say..
    I know what Hezbollah has been doing is scaring the Shiites communities. But Nassrallah and Iran tactics have monopolized their heart and their mind and take over their souls. The Shiites do not want to confront them cause of fear first. Second Hezbollah showing how al Nusra can be acting like animals and Shiites are confused here. There are several extreme sunnis groups but i just selected Al Nusra but hezbollah want and is taking charge of Lebanon then when Israel carpet Lebanon with their rockets and bombs. Then i blame no one but Hezbollah. I am sure Syria and Iran the head of the Snake is the main culprit here. The Shiite community need to rise in anger against Nassrallah and maybe sacrifice some in order to save their community and Lebanon. God help us from the next war.. because once Israel tears into Hezbollah, the Sunni extremists will feast on the Shiite community. In fact I see great danger lying ahead and Lebanon will be torn apart so much it will take over a decade or more to heal. if it ever does..

    • ghassan Karam

      nagy_michael2
      I am glad that you mentioned that being critical of Hezbollah does not imply support for JAN or ISIS kind of groups and furthermore I think that you are right in your estimate that probably only a small segment of Sunnis support such groups. That is why I would hope that the Lebanese Sunnis as a group will not “tear” into either Hezbollah or the Shia if they get a chance.That would be a mistake since an eye for an eye will create a blind world.

      • nagy_michael2

        No good lebanese would support any extremists that are especially bent on destruction and creating chaos. I am christian but was against any extremism in any sect for its create unhealthy environment and division and tip the balance. I do not care what the president or PM or any ministers what religion as long as they serve the interest of Lebanon. The problem is since long not just in Lebanon but in third world countries they created the fear of certain sect being in control. When Lebanon becomes a true democracy there is no need to say the President has to be a Christian but Maronite only.. wooh what about Greek Orthodox then? why can’t he be a she and why can’t this president be a Druze, a shiites or sunnis.. or PM can be a christian and vice versa. right now we’re a joke of a country despite all the formalities of a government. most third world countries have electricity and running water. Lebanon has abundance of these but can’t seem to turn it on. Hezbollah can be better off to help the government build power plants and pave roads and install good water system instead of going around please Iran, Syria and trying to control Lebanon as if its own entity. either they help us or leave us alone in peace.
        And thank you for your reply..

        • libnan1

          The answer to all your meaningless yapping is this

          • nagy_michael2

            yah the same women who slept with Hezbollah guards during the sit-in in their tents in downtown beirut. how naive and stupid you all are.

          • libnan1

            You just can’t deny they are HOT. I bet they are hotter than the Colombian stuff you get on ….

          • nagy_michael2

            the way they have their arms up as if they’re saying take me I am yours..yah the middle one is looking fine.. I am moving to filipinas now.. just kidding.

          • libnan1

            Filipinos are fine too, they have sideways tan on the outside and very pink on the inside. Watch out it doesn’t take much for them to drip…..:)

          • nagy_michael2

            for a married men you must be cheating on your wife it seems.. well do i expect from Aoun followers who has been cheating Lebanon with sister Syria..

          • libnan1

            No you’r wrong. No cheating, I got a hot wife. Those observations are from my single days while traveling for work. Having said that I wouldn’t mind a strange or two, maybe this summer …:) No

          • barabie

            You are a typical example of a Lebanese male chauvinistic pig!! Would you speak like that about your mother, sister, nasty or ur master aoun? Toufoo.

          • Geo

            I have to admit he was asking for trouble with that post,,,,not just saying that so my beatings from you stop either :-

          • barabie

            Geo I still like u no matter what has occurred between us. Friends can disagree and even berate each other without it being the end of that friendship. I have always liked u as a person but that doesn’t stop me from disagreeing and getting upset with u about different views.

          • Geo

            Thanks for your reply Barabie, it is difficult to read me or to come to any certainty of what my views are and how they come to be, even upon meeting me in person many people find me unusual in many ways but at least they get to see me in a different venue than a political chat room, I am a humanist and not political but the people I interact with are political and sometimes it paints me with a political brush when I am someone who truly is capable of falling in love with people regardless of political affiliation. I am guilty of my serious side and my humorous side overlaping and fogging up where I stand in my values. I am not perfect but I have never been in the hurting business people physically or with my words, for that part I felt horrible for making you feel the way I did. living in peace maybe too much to ask but dying in peace would be nice.

          • libnan1

            My mother and sister are not filipinos plus I was just sharing my experience and observations, nothing more. It’s an art you know, STOP READING MY COMMENTS.

  • Fauzia45

    Hi Ghassan!I agree with you!Their meaning of the word ,^resistance^ and its use has helped them achieve what they have been aiming for !And now it is unfortunately,^I want what I want and when I want ^!

    • ghassan Karam

      Fauzia45,
      As is often the case, we are in agreement.

  • libnan1

    Ghassan, You went on to lecture how much you dislike the resistance and the Chinese history and on but you failed to present a solution.
    Well the resistance started because of the Israeli occupation, it paid the ultimate sacrifice while the other militias in Lebanon were busy killing innocent people and destroying the Lebanese state. The only two entities that resisted occupiers were the Resistance and the Lebanese army under the commander of our Great General Aoun hence their present alliance.
    If the Lebanese are so afraid and so concerned like you are about the resistance then why don’t they stand up and resist the resistance? The reason they don’t is that the resistance is the People, the Army is the people therefore the term “Resistance, army and people”.
    Demanding the elimination of the resistance is like demanding the eliminating of the people. The resistance represented by HA military and our support politically liberated the south and now preventing the Wahabi’s rule of Lebanon. Just imagine what would have happened in Lebanon if the Takfiris were to control Lebanon, Hariri and company will be singing the Blues.

    • ghassan Karam

      libnan1,
      Please pay me the courtesy of representing what I said correctly . The essential point is not one of hating the resistance as you claim but since the column is about the concept of resistance. The idea of resistance becomes meaningless if one group is to claim it as their own and to proclaim themselves above the law of the land. My point ,if you would reread the short column, is that for over 2000 years the idea that people have the right to resist injustice has been established and accepted by all cultures all over the world. But for that right to have anymeaning it must belong to all. It just cannot be monopolized simply because doing that sucks the life out of the idea.

      BTW, I am opposed to the philosophy behind the political Party called Hezbollah for many reasons but essentially because I do not approve of theocracies.

      • Hind Abyad

        Lebanon was never all united in it’s History.

        • ghassan Karam

          Hind,
          No state is ever totally united. That would be an impossibility and would not be healthy. That is not my point. I am not asking for unity. I am simply pointing out that “resistance” is an essential concept that belongs to all and so it cannot be privatized. In the same way that freedom and liberty belong to all so does resistance. It cannot belong to any group.

          • Hind Abyad

            True, it should belong to all, Lebanon would be a miracle, it stems
            sectarian divisions (even between Christians), i’m not a politician,
            some country have been inciting civil war, investing in Lebanon sectarin intolerance, hate will never solve it but continue the tradition, they should
            ship away feudal vestiges in order to enter a new age make Lebanon strong..

          • MaImequer0

            Why don’t you run for election?

        • master09

          So lets all carry a gun and resist each other, that might unit us.

          • Hind Abyad

            Nothing to do with that.

          • master09

            So please xlplain to me what it has got to do with.
            So also tell me why HA never resisted SYRIA when they occupied Lebanon or its hit nothing to do with that Either. Please xlplain.

          • Hannibal

            Me Me Me I know the answer Me me me… tiizeyn be fard elbees? Shia – Alawi?

          • master09

            Back of the class please write 100 times WHY.

          • Hannibal

            lol

          • Leborigine

            Don’t waste your breathe Master09. I have requested an answer to this question on a few occasions in Ya Libnan in the past 4-5 years, and I think you might get a more reasonable answer from a brick wall than a syrian sympathiser!
            A syrian bullet does not hurt as much as an israeli bullet.
            A syrian bomb does not destroy as badly as an israeli bomb.
            An arab occupier respects you better than a zionist occupier
            We have special ties with syria, so that gives them more of a “right” to occupy Lebanon than israel.
            This is a good one: We were critical of the syrian occupation, but do not forget who invited them!!!
            The best one is that Lebanon was part of that shithole, so we should not reject their advances!! Little do they know that this shithole was also a part of a region called greater or natural Syria, but they do not have enough brain cell capacity to distinguish between the two!
            To be honest, these people like to have a boot continuously on their necks!! If that’s what they want, then let them have it.
            I also love the way that everyone here is talking about the resistance, but they have all forgotten the resistance that the late President of the Lebanese Republic Bachir Gemayel offered to the Lebanese against the syrians. For a few good men, they gave syria a whopping! That is what you call a true resistance. Despite his alliance with Israel, he never accepted that they step foot in Lebanese territory.

          • Hannibal

            Or part of a greater Turkey 😉

          • Hind Abyad

            Sit down breed deeply and listen.. i am not interested in the 1982 dirth does that xlplain?

          • master09

            You bring history into everything but Not Syria or HA. Lol I don’t give a shit about any of it but just to show how some can support one action and not the other by same group. Very funny.

          • Hind Abyad

            I’m so sorry but your metaphor is the wrong analogy, i don’t have two kids so
            i don’t know how i would react, i think each keeps and protect one of two kids.

          • master09

            Lol I don’t have kids either but how funny to see a person run from a question. I. Really can not stop laughing.
            You see you don’t have to have kids or a country or a resistance but its called the truth. Good day to you I must go get a life.

          • Hind Abyad

            Good day.

          • MaImequer0

            1982??? A strange year.

          • Hind Abyad

            Sit down breed deeply and listen.. i am not interested in the 1982 dirth, does that xlplain?

          • master09

            That is just the point A RESISTANCE is against ALL . When Syria was in Lebanon we never saw Resisting by HA did we. But I wait for someone to come up with some crap to make HA look good. The army is and should be the ONLY form of resistance if need be. Full stop.

          • Hind Abyad

            Stop shouting at me..you tell me Israel offered 90% to Palestinians, only an Israeli would say it (cause it’s 18% of 90%), they feed it to the Westermedia.
            In all subjects you’re aligned with the Zionists even on Ukraine, you heil madMcCain, who posed with the kinnapers of the two Syrian Orthodox Bishops ,
            still missing…. why you all come to speake in the name of Lebanese?
            You don’t have a Lebanese Soul, that is unmistakeble..
            Never the less i wish you peace you have right to you’re opinion, as i have to mine..

          • master09

            But answer my ? Rather than go to the moon and back and talking about another subject. Why didn’t HA resist Syria. Or can the turn a blind eye to some. That is hardly a resistance. That’s like saying blacks can not go into certain places again. Who is shouting just putting a spot light to our saviours. Lol also tell me who did Israel support in the 80s in Lebanon giving them arms. It is not what my point is, it’s about giving someone a title and using it no matter who it was involved in equal way.

          • MekensehParty

            Don’t waste your time
            As soon as you corner hind with a question doctor maher didn’t teach her to answer her brain goes all crazy with error warnings and she needs to reboot.

          • Hind Abyad

            I don’t know what he’s talking about, i don’t want insult him, generous of you helping your friend.

          • master09

            But answer my ? Rather than go to the moon and back and talking about another subject. Why didn’t HA resist Syria. Or can the turn a blind eye to some. That is hardly a resistance. That’s like saying blacks can not go into certain places again. Who is shouting just putting a spot light to our saviours. Lol also tell me who did Israel support in the 80s in Lebanon giving them arms. It is not what my point is, it’s about giving someone a title and using it no matter who it was involved in equal way.

          • master09

            So not going to tell me the diff between resisting Israel or Syria is . Will they resist if Syria attack Lebanon again or sit back like they did last time.

          • Hind Abyad

            Did you reply to annything i said?

          • master09

            What where going to argue the % side of what Israel offered in the past. “it is clear” that Israel is “willing in principle to give up” control of 90% of the West Bank.
            US Secretary of State John Kerry is expected to present in the near future the so-called “framework agreement,” a nonbinding document intended to outline a final-status agreement, the principles of which have been agreed upon by the two sides.
            Under the proposal, Israel would return to the Palestinians 93 percent of the West Bank, plus all of the Gaza Strip, when the Palestinian Authority regains control over the Gaza Strip, which the militant group Hamas seized from forces loyal to Abbas in June 2006.

            “The Israeli proposal is not acceptable,” Abbas’s spokesman said. “The Palestinian side will only accept a Palestinian state with territorial continuity, with holy Jerusalem as its capital, without settlements, and on the June 4, 1967 boundaries.”

            What ever you give they want 100% tell me would you give back and leave your people. Come on Hend we are talking real life staff not dream Layla land.
            No your turn the HA Syria situation. What you think.

          • Hind Abyad

            Did you reply to annything i said?

          • master09

            What where going to argue the % side of what Israel offered in the past. “it is clear” that Israel is “willing in principle to give up” control of 90% of the West Bank.
            US Secretary of State John Kerry is expected to present in the near future the so-called “framework agreement,” a nonbinding document intended to outline a final-status agreement, the principles of which have been agreed upon by the two sides.
            Under the proposal, Israel would return to the Palestinians 93 percent of the West Bank, plus all of the Gaza Strip, when the Palestinian Authority regains control over the Gaza Strip, which the militant group Hamas seized from forces loyal to Abbas in June 2006.

            “The Israeli proposal is not acceptable,” Abbas’s spokesman said. “The Palestinian side will only accept a Palestinian state with territorial continuity, with holy Jerusalem as its capital, without settlements, and on the June 4, 1967 boundaries.”

            What ever you give they want 100% tell me would you give back and leave your people. Come on Hend we are talking real life staff not dream Layla land.
            No your turn the HA Syria situation. What you think.

          • Leborigine

            24 hours later and no one can give you an answer – lol.

          • master09

            Hind is doing her best to run from the ? . It is simple but oh so hard.

          • Hind Abyad

            HA is Sharon legacy..

          • Hind Abyad

            HA is Sharon legacy..

    • 5thDrawer

      You need a better ‘translator’. Dork. Didn’t understand him at all. And I’m turning up the fans ….

      • libnan1

        Yes I did understand him, you need to read the title before you start name calling. As they say “el maktoob youfam min 3inwanoh”. He dislikes the resistance and it’s supporters. Stop you fans 12 inches are in the forecast for tonight.

        • 5thDrawer

          Much better than the little bit we got … you’ll be able to make a new snow-man.

    • MekensehParty

      Hallucinations…
      No wonder why Lebanon is in deep shit with Lebanese like you

      • libnan1

        I don’t think you completed your training yet so B.I.G S.H.I.T will call you into his office.

        • Hannibal

          Between an orange autocrat and a militant theocrat you are running the risk of becoming an…. and Orangocrat? or is it an Orangutan? lol

          • libnan1

            This thing looks muscular with maroon hair color, I bet he hits the gym every morning also he looks tall and got some European blood in him. Hmmmm

          • Farq2

            That poor Geagea doesn’t age very well Hannibal, Does he. At least his growing his hair back.

          • Hannibal

            Geagea’s colors are green… May be a lizard or a chameleon? Nope I will leave the chameleon for Walid Jumblatt 😛

          • Hannibal

            Geagea’s colors are green… May be a lizard or a chameleon? Nope I will leave the chameleon for Walid Jumblatt 😛

    • MekensehParty

      Hallucinations…
      No wonder why Lebanon is in deep shit with Lebanese like you

  • cook2half

    The shaitan is a resistance against civilians in Syria, Israel and Lebanon who are just trying to live in peace. Marg bar khamenei

    • Hannibal

      Khamenei rahbar 😛

      • cook2half

        :-))

    • Hind Abyad

      crook2halfSatan “Lebanon and Israel who are just trying to live in peace” iiiihh sweeet
      So lebanon is already a satelite country, Israel illegaly annexes the West Bank, East-Jerusalem the Golan heights (shares of oil-gas sold to Murdoch and Rothschild since 2009), Israel decides Palestinian Christians are not Arabs, to create sectarianism between Palestinians wich never existed in history unlike Lebanon.

      Israel does what their heart desire, but dont desire peace cause with peace Israel can’t grab more piece of land. Lapid said this won’t help peace talks, next day he got warning he could
      be killed like Rabin (Haha-retz).

      • cook2half

        Here we go again ! ROFLOL Israel never annexed the West Bank

        “Palestinians” are invented and dont have a history, unless you mean Arabs which ill agree

        Haaretz is leftard propaganda which only 5% of Israelis read

        • Geo

          crook2halfSatan lmao 🙂 I wish I had a dollar for every name you get called… I could retire young 🙂 I will ad it to the names on the T shirt…if there is any space left =D

          • cook2half

            Here’s what someone wrote to me on Daily Star today 😛

            “…. You are not a peacebringer dove, but a war mongerer provoking the Russian Bear. Stop that”

          • Geo

            people are so unfair and judgemental, I am sorry cookie not everyone knows how wonderful you are. I hope this will cheer you up.
            ROSES ARE RED
            VIOLETS ARE BLUE
            COOKIE IS IRANINAN
            BUT THINKS HE IS JEW =D

          • cook2half

            Nice one. Zionism is an inspiration, makes you write poetry in your free time.

          • Geo

            Free time I wish, trying to convince an injured bird to eat on my shoulder instead of pooping on it, so I distract myself by reading the hopelessness and cant help resorting to humor as nothing good will come out of all the conflicting missions on the page.

          • 5thDrawer

            Better then to stick with Ghassan’s thoughts. 😉

          • 5thDrawer

            Better then to stick with Ghassan’s thoughts. 😉

          • 5thDrawer

            Better rhyme than libnan1. ;-}

          • Geo

            But it has to rhyme I am a perfectionist 🙂 besides Zionism is an inspiration!

          • …some guy

            people are so unfair and judgemental, I am sorry cookie not everyone knows how wonderful you are. I hope this will cheer you up.
            ROSES ARE RED
            VIOLETS ARE BLUE
            COOKIE IS IRANINAN
            BUT THINKS HE IS JEW =D

        • Hind Abyad

          Israel annexed West Bank.
          Boring broken record, you’re invented shosen people.

          • cook2half

            Wrong

      • cook2half

        Here we go again ! ROFLOL Israel never annexed the West Bank

        “Palestinians” are invented and dont have a history, unless you mean Arabs which ill agree

        Haaretz is leftard propaganda which only 5% of Israelis read

        • Hind Abyad

          Israel annexed West Bank.
          Boring broken record, you’re invented shosen people.

          • cook2half

            Wrong

  • Super_habib

    Lebanese need to incite a revolution in Iran to cut the stream of money. The hzb would shrivel up and disappear, kids like the SLA after funding was cut.

  • MekensehParty

    Ghassan, allow me to take what you said one step further, not only did they convince everyone that they should be called the resistance, they also stole the acknowledgment that they are indeed the party of God!!!
    Before denying them the title of resistance, the Lebanese should start first by taking away the name of the party itself!
    Who gave Hassan Nasrallah the right to lead the party of God? Who is that little punk, and the gang he leads to have the eternal blessing of the Creator in the very name of an impure party?
    The Lebanese have slept with this monster for too many years. They have surrendered to Hezbollah (by fear or conviction) so much that it is now extremely hard if not impossible to usurp all these titles.
    They run the country today and whoever opposes them is a Zionist and even if they win and liberate Lebanon and Jerusalem and stop being the resistance, whoever opposes them later will simply be called a heretic.

  • Prophettttt

    There was never a consensus on the idea of resistance in Lebanon,let alone the definition of resistance. When a large number of Lebanese were in bed with the aggressors and occupiers ,the resistors resisted ,defended,and liberated the south from the occupiers. The same people who didn’t believe in resistance back then are at it again,and won’t recognize the resistance .If the resistance was to wait until it was able to establish a national consensus on the resistance before it launched its war on Israeli occupation,it would have had to wait until every Lebanese village was renamed a Hebrew name. In reality, Resistance is there whether some like it or not.Ask those who were liberated from 20 years of occupation and humiliation who liberated them?. Who defended them?They would tell you that it was not those who doubted the idea of resistance. It was not those academics and so called politicians who split hair in analyzing the obvious,it was not the takfeeries ,it was not the state of Lebanon,but it was the resistance. I doubt that the resistance even cares what and how some describe it now because it didn’t when it first started.
    who ever believed in the resistance 22 years ago ,still does.whoever didn’t believe in the resistance 22 years ago ,still doesn’t,and is not expected to do so. It is what it is, so be it.

    • Geo

      Only you Prophetttt can drag me back in here maybe one last time 🙂 However I need a 50 % discount on the like unless I can give Half a like lol.

      Damn the occupiers of any kind!!! Hezbollah is made up of shia and braves who fought Occupiers, Occupiers came in due to lebanons losing its parental rights for doing a horrible job at taking care of business during the civil war that was sucumb to civilians becoming militants whether muslim or christian they destroyed the country that meant nothing to the plo or all who fed them military foods instead of long term solutions.

      Today Hizbollah disqualifies normalcy in lebanon exactly as 2 united parents would provide normal conditions for their children if they are in a healthy marriage but when they are divided due to commitments develop to outsiders instead of resolving and mending internaly, strangers are now making decisions what is good for the children, same as a familly divided lebanon is divided too and lacks normalcy largely because of two factors that lebanon as a whole is entitled to to opine about and that is the issue of weapons and the issue of conflicting interests the resistance has now with more than just keeping israel at bay. Hezbollah in its actions is depriving lebanon as a whole of its parental rights to be a strong government and a military that provides normalcy for citizens to simply live as citizens instead of the constnt worry of what Hezbollah does next a rogue entity that is exempt from having to listen to any one…..I will give you the half like when you visit lol.

      • 5thDrawer

        The whole concept of having to ‘keep Israel out’ would have been a moot point after they had agreed to leave and the UN set up the blue line. They wouldn’t be back. But Idiots with ‘resistance’ that turns always into assaults and chest-beating grand speeches, mostly over some farm-land that Syria ostensibly gave to Lebanon, constantly invite the angst and anger from what could be a ‘neighbourly’ trading partner after some peaceful years.
        Simply Resist being dragged into manufactured conflict – a better idea.

        • Geo

          5th, I am almost certain that if any other lebanese militia or sect had the same position as Hizbullah they would NOT give it up any easier, lets be honest about it men+power+control would have the same effect on any other lebanese group, the concept and idiosyncrasies that go with its power is what I dont agree with but as a people there is zero reason to to think they are any worse than other citizens.

          • 5thDrawer

            Aside from Hind flying off the handle as usual, and barely understanding what I was saying, since I had not named anyone in that little statement and was not suggesting any ‘party’ SIDE with Israel, I was only stating the fact that ‘peace’ with some business could be a better way to go.
            Now, if everyone thinks that to do business with Israel or the USA means allowing them to run all over you at the same time (as Hind seems to imply), then I guess we’d just have to drop the concept and leave everything as it is for the next 1000 years or so. Perhaps because there can be no written constitution or actual trade laws made by a non-existent government, you are both correct in that. After all, the smugglers seem to have had a good game going for a while.
            One needs to know exactly what one wants to resist, after all.
            And yes, I guess if ‘money talks’ Geo, any of the ‘gang-heads’, religious or otherwise, would sell their mothers … but one could make a ‘rule’ against it.

          • Hannibal

            You are either with us or against us… 😛 LOL

          • 5thDrawer

            One thing, Hannibal, you know I’m against is laws and rules that don’t apply to ALL the citizens. But no-one seems to want that really – they go with sectarian dictatorship all the time. The ‘Me over everyone’ concept. I resist it.

          • Hannibal

            It’s OK… It is cyclical… What goes up MUST come down. The Maronites tried it and it blew in their face. Now it is the Shia’s turn. We never learn… (It rhymes :P)

          • Geo

            5th, yes Hind flies off the handle and she is unconventional but I will say that although I don’t share all her views I am certain that she did not wake up one day and decide that she will be the Hind that we know for no reason at all. while I do not know exactly why she feels the way she does completely, I respect the fact that her pains and scars are not invented and I have no right to judge her without knowing exactly what she or her family had endured, I consider her a friend and I am comfortable and proud of the friendship regardless of her views.

          • Hind Abyad

            Thank you 🙂

          • MekensehParty

            It certainly wasn’t overnight
            Doctor Maher’s brainwashing techniques take a good month to stick

          • Hind Abyad

            Ow it’s not to his heart desire…5th was certainly overnight.
            I love Mahler..do you like Brahms?

          • 5thDrawer

            Late-Romantic Austrian composer; Gustav Mahler was born into a Jewish family in Kaliště Pelhřimov District, Bohemia, in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Strange dreary love you have there …. 😉

          • Hind Abyad

            I know Mahler history.. what has this to do with my past..most if not all great composers of the romantic era had tragic lives..

          • 5thDrawer

            Late-Romantic Austrian composer; Gustav Mahler was born into a Jewish family in Kaliště Pelhřimov District, Bohemia, in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
            Strange dreary love you have there …. 😉
            Something close to your past? Hmmm …
            “Gustav was the second of twelve children, of which five died in infancy and three others did not live to mature adulthood. The constant conflicts between Gustav’s domineering and abusive father and his weak mother helped to shape his compositional style, always reflecting on the struggle between good and evil, happy and sad, strong and weak, etc.”
            The age of no health-care-plan …. sad indeed.

          • 5thDrawer

            Tchaikovsky, actually.

          • 5thDrawer

            Tchaikovsky, actually.

          • 5thDrawer

            Well Geo, I’m happy we don’t need to agree on everything to be friends. Seems sort of normal, that bit … really. 😉
            But Ghassan – and I in my little additions – attempt to talk about a way of thinking. About a ‘concept’ of living, as well as governing a country which promotes positives FOR the country – not governing based solely on always being AGAINST ONE THING.
            If Hind must relate everything bad she sees in life to Israel (or Jews in general) – then that’s probably a great waste of talent and energy, since Israel can’t make all it’s own people think the same either – which is why some of us think democracy is the better way. The trick about democracy is to have everyone, of course, agree to accept the results … at least until the next election. But beginning with the concept that only resistors can make anything happen for the common good seems a little off to me. If try to pass electricity through enough resistance you end up blowing the circuit, after all.

          • Hind Abyad

            Talking about Democracy, apartheid i a great Democracy, dictating the race
            for the Palestinian Christians.. for Gods sake, as if religion makes a race.
            That’s the Zionist IQ.
            I see bad, the Middle East is in ruins Israel destroys and create refugees.
            2014.. still destroying Arab countries and creating more refugees, while they
            build condos, luxury hotels in Holyholding investment, uprooted, buldozed land. This year the number of refugees will mount to 10 million counting from 1947-48. I relate everything bad to Israel (or Jews in general), well the Zionist Mouvement was founded by Fascists=Nazis, i never in my life included Jews
            in General, how old are you?.

          • callmeback

            Former Vice President Mohammad Ali Abtahi referenced American-Iranian cooperation in a speech he made in 2004: “Were it not for Iran, Baghdad and Kabul would not have fallen.” – They insisted on Democracy and the De-Baathification of Iraq while they are refusing the same in Syria.

          • Hind Abyad

            I don’t understand, you call Irak a Democracy?
            And “they” are refusing the same in Syria.?

          • 5thDrawer

            Great Philosophy Poster. Could be any Depotic regime mentioned there. Pick one? Hmmm …. needs to be one with white skins, I guess. 😉

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            I’m a Zionist and my IQ is 136. I don’t post random opportune propaganda pictures as ‘evidence’ and I don’t spout crazy conspiracy theories. Oh well. I’m sure you’ll say that the IQ tests were created by ‘zionists’.

          • Hind Abyad

            Lebanorigin, Cook4half, MekekhenzirParty, Master, Doron (anice guy)
            oh yes, 5th Ass & 5th Drawer..all pro-Zionists call me crazy.. hallucinating.
            Is there still a little fredom of speech left here? Thank yoouu

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            You are crazy. And prejudiced against Jews.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            You are crazy. And prejudiced against Jews.

          • master09

            You can freedom anything you want, but when we all say something we are all Zionist. Speaking for my self, I can’t wait for peace and a home state but it has to be on two terms not one and both sides are making trouble not one but you always point the finger at one . Second the people you mention above shat happen to there freedom of speech. All you do is post crap photos. I can show you photos of what the Pslestinians are doing to thier own people and what Arab countries are doing to them in camps. Tell me if the Arabs love them so much why want they let them come out of these camps and work. No body is saying not to say what you want the funny shit is you get upset when we do not agree with you and all we are doing is arguing our point. Zionist this Zionist that. When someone calls you Syrian lover you jump up and down. Take the heat. Freedom. Give peace a chance on both sides not one.

          • Hind Abyad

            If i’m not aligned in war on Syrian..then i’m a Syria?
            All you want is peace, i wish, i don’t understand you don’t get these news in Israel. 4 Mars, Amnesty video highlights “trigger happy” Israel ambush of a school boy Samir Awad was 16, was shot repeatedly and killed.
            You will tell me he was a terrorist i will send you another picture.

          • master09

            I’m sorry Hind your in your own world, did you even read what I said because your reply has nothing to do with what I said. You still post pictures, I said I can give you pictures 100 times worse of what the PO do to their own people. These pictures are your way of saying Isreal is evil. Every government around the world do like and even worse so are the all Zioist. Get over your hate and spend your energy on peace and love you will understand better. When you hate something so much you will never ever see the good even if it hit you in the FACE. Lol

          • master09

            You can freedom anything you want, but when we all say something we are all Zionist. Speaking for my self, I can’t wait for peace and a home state but it has to be on two terms not one and both sides are making trouble not one but you always point the finger at one . Second the people you mention above shat happen to there freedom of speech. All you do is post crap photos. I can show you photos of what the Pslestinians are doing to thier own people and what Arab countries are doing to them in camps. Tell me if the Arabs love them so much why want they let them come out of these camps and work. No body is saying not to say what you want the funny shit is you get upset when we do not agree with you and all we are doing is arguing our point. Zionist this Zionist that. When someone calls you Syrian lover you jump up and down. Take the heat. Freedom. Give peace a chance on both sides not one.

          • 5thDrawer

            OK, crazy.. hallucinating. 🙂 Too cute to mention. And definitely too fast to do name-calling. But I’d happily ‘educate’ a Jew to my way of thinking too, if he got in my way … or just as happily pass him by if he didn’t, but couldn’t understand me. Why argue? It’s a waste of time when it’s about theories. And fighting is detrimental to the general health.
            You SURE you wouldn’t like a ‘Glen’. ?? 😉

          • 5thDrawer

            One reason I never took one … I had met some ‘smart’ people. 😉

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            There are many useful idiots and idiots in positions of power. Hind was saying though that Zionists have low IQs. Einstein was a Zionist.

          • 5thDrawer

            One reason I never took one … I had met some ‘smart’ people. 😉

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            No. Religion is ONE of a number of things that define ethnicity. Another is that until about 100-200 years ago, Jews read and wrote in the Hebrew alphabet. Another is that we had a shared narrative of history. Another is that they corresponded in Hebrew by writing. Another is that EVERYONE considered them one group until the 20th century. Another is that their dialects were infused with Hebrew, Another is that almost all communities are half Israelite by descent.

          • Hind Abyad

            You don’t need to, i know all that.
            Many Jews are against Zionism right wing Fascist mouvement.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Many? It’s not so hard to count them. There are very few and if Jews still did excommunication then they’d be gone very quickly. There are many self haters, that’s what happens after thousands of years of persecution due to Christian and Muslim insecurity. Also, go and learn some history. Zionism comes from the left originally.

          • Hind Abyad

            Beginning of dementia..it’s ok ..you’re right.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            I think you’re well past the beginning.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Many? It’s not so hard to count them. There are very few and if Jews still did excommunication then they’d be gone very quickly. There are many self haters, that’s what happens after thousands of years of persecution due to Christian and Muslim insecurity. Also, go and learn some history. Zionism comes from the left originally.

          • Hind Abyad

            Beginning of dementia..it’s ok ..you’re right.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            I think you’re well past the beginning.

          • …some guy

            5th, yes Hind flies off the handle and she is unconventional but I will say that although I don’t share all her views I am certain that she did not wake up one day and decide that she will be the Hind that we know for no reason at all. while I do not know exactly why she feels the way she does completely, I respect the fact that her pains and scars are not invented and I have no right to judge her without knowing exactly what she or her family had endured, I consider her a friend and I am comfortable and proud of the friendship regardless of her views.

          • Hind Abyad

            Thank you 🙂

          • 5thDrawer

            Well Geo, I’m happy we don’t need to agree on everything to be friends. Seems sort of normal, that bit … really. 😉
            But Ghassan – and I in my little additions – attempt to talk about a way of thinking. About a ‘concept’ of living, as well as governing a country which promotes positives FOR the country – not governing based solely on always being AGAINST ONE THING.
            If Hind must relate everything bad she sees in life to Israel (or Jews in general) – then that’s probably a great waste of talent and energy, since Israel can’t make all it’s own people think the same either – which is why some of us think democracy is the better way. The trick about democracy is to have everyone, of course, agree to accept the results … at least until the next election. But beginning with the concept that only resistors can make anything happen for the common good seems a little off to me. If we try to pass electricity through enough resistance you end up blowing the circuit, after all.

          • 5th ass

            Please take hindi’s comments with a grain of salt – it is only a measure of comprehension –

        • Hind Abyad

          Open the last drawer..never minde it’s empty.
          1-Hezbollh didn’t exist !!
          2-Sharon succeded in radicalizing Lebanon’s Shia.
          How can parties aligned with Israel defend Lebanon in future (?)
          Lebanon in future.. if not already (Israelis working for it here),
          become a satelite country to Israel..the chesthate-beating is you.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Oh God it’s the Nazi wench again.

          • Hind Abyad

            French dictionary; “salope”.English; “low life, “sexual promiscuity”,
            “guther life”, “in transit”. Good Zionists IQ for vulgarities you have indeed…

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Are you suggesting that there are two types of standardized IQs?

          • Hind Abyad

            High IQ don’t ingage in Low arguments

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Sometimes one is forced to defend oneself. In today’s age of mass online media where any moron can say what they like and majority opinion rules, there is little choice but to engage. Case in point. You’re a paranoid, racist, hateful person and I am engaging you.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Sometimes one is forced to defend oneself. In today’s age of mass online media where any moron can say what they like and majority opinion rules, there is little choice but to engage. Case in point. You’re a paranoid, racist, hateful person and I am engaging you.

          • Hind Abyad

            French dictionary; “salope”.English; “low life, “sexual promiscuity”,
            “guther life”, “in transit”. Good Zionists IQ for vulgarities you have indeed…

          • MaImequer0

            How can parties aligned with iran defend Lebanon in future???

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Well you see, they want to defend it not as Lebanon but as ‘Lebanon’.

          • MaImequer0

            How can parties aligned with iran defend Lebanon in future???

      • Prophettttt

        Geo, I missed the sale and had to buy you a full like.I’m honored to be able to drag you back in here again,but I didn’t think I could compete with the fine ladies of yalibnan but it could be my terrorist-like features that drew you back in. I do have the look, as you know-and hopefully to barabie satisfaction, All I have to does shave my mustache,and my look would be perfect for terrorists,lol
        Your analogy is not too far off, yet nations building is much more complicated than marriages, especially when 17 members are married to each other;This is a “seventeensome” like no other “some” we have ever witnessed. lol. your points are valid to some extend,but can not be looked at with such simplicity.
        My point is that the dysfunction of this marriages{s} has been going on since the establishments of the state of Lebanon,and it was the reason we had a civil war ,and it was the reason we have a state that could not,and can not,and will not be allowed to defend its citizens. For years people were defenseless.Too bad they had to rely on themselves,but they had to do what needed to be done.
        My main point of my first comment was that those ,who all of a sudden, decided that HA is no longer a resistance,or that HA has just lost its legitimacy ;are being hypocrites because they never did believe in resistance, they never believed it HA legitimacy,and their newly discovered enlightenment that HA was ,but, no longer is a legitimate resistance is just a lie.

        My views of ha theology are well known and you know that I can not and will not support or agree with such theology. But My support for the idea of resistance has been there before the creation of HA,and I will always support any resistance which would defend Lebanon from Israeli aggression.
        When I visit I will get a full like from you, I hope,and I will bring the wine,I promise,and I promise not to drag you back into politics anymore,lol

        • Geo

          well prophetttt, 17teen some pretty much sais it all, soon this page will be so crowded with comments that the errors and smoke will plume out of the servers again, we will continues when you bring the wine and I will have the clippers ready, first the mustache for a salafi photo shoot and then beard goes too so I can make some nests for the coming spring 🙂

          • Prophettttt

            Deal! Just make sure you have Armani aftershave,please,lol

          • Geo

            Oh stop, now you make it sound like we are going on a trip to san fransisco with a rainbow sticker on the bumper listening to ricky martin music lol

          • Prophettttt

            Sorry bro,lol that did sound bad.blame it on my sleeping pills

          • 5thDrawer

            You guys could probably pull that trip off. ;-)))))
            But you really should try a splash of a favourite single-malt. It’s less expensive than Armani. 😉

          • libnan1

            Now you’re trying to get a buzz on Armani aftershave!!!! use old spice it has the same effect ….

          • Prophettttt

            Took it back, bro.Give me some credit at least.lol

        • …some guy

          well prophetttt, 17teen some pretty much sais it all, soon this page will be so crowded with comments that the errors and smoke will plume out of the servers again, we will continues when you bring the wine and I will have the clippers ready, first the mustache for a salafi photo shoot and then beard goes too so I can make some nests for the coming spring 🙂

        • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

          A terrorist is a non-state actor who attacks non-combatants (including soldiers who are on leave in uniform) for leverage and/or fear for political purposes.

          • Prophettttt

            No interest in your definitions or in anything you have to say.Bla bla bla until the end of time.I know where I stand and I know where people like you stand. Thanks for taking the time,however,I suggest you don’t do it again.I gave you the courtesy once,but won’t happen again.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            That’s cause you’re a big fat racist like Hind. That’s not my definition, that’s the proper, academic definition. GFY

          • libnan1

            Ok Mr academia, since you know what the definition of terrorist please educate us about the definition of occupier or occupation.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            It’s a tricky one. The Geneva Convention definition is rather odd. I would invite you to discuss it. It states that the definition applies to (i) the territory of another state, (ii) territory at war, (iii) territory not at war. It is forbidden to transfer your population into a territory of one of those definitions under your military control.

            Regarding (i) The West Bank is not the territory of another existing sovereign country. It was previously under Jordanian rule which wasn’t recognized by anyone but the UK and Pakistan. The UK didn’t recognize Jordanian rule of East Jerusalem though. Before that, it was under British rule, before that Ottoman. Jordan renounced all claims in 1988.

            Regarding (ii) There isn’t a war going on in the traditional sense that would be covered by this definition.

            Regarding (iii) What on earth does this mean? Are all places built since the Geneva Convention illegal? Is it just things that were built under military rule? If you annex the territory, is it legal to build there?

            The preamble makes a statement against the acquisition of territory by war. There is debate on whether this war was a war for territory or not. What if it wasn’t? (Are you able to consider the possibility?).

            Furthermore, the resolutions in question were formulated during (or just after?) WWII in the context of Nazi Germany. It was less in the context of Germans settling Poland etc and more in the context of them forcefully transferring Jews, Roma, homosexuals and other people they didn’t like, to foreign territory for extermination or hard labour. One may apply it elsewhere but does encouragement to settle count? If it does, it cannot possibly apply to those who move somewhere without permission.

            We can see that Turks moving to Northern Cyprus falls under definition (i) but were they encouraged, moved forcefully? Is it illegal due to Cypriot sovereignty and as totally separate from Geneva?

            What about Western Sahara? Is the area West of the berm an illegally occupied and settled territory? It doesn’t fall under sections one or two. I’m pretty sure they annexed it too.

            East Jerusalem was annexed (so was the former Israeli – Jordanian no man’s land around the Latrun Salient). Is this not like Western Sahara perhaps?

            The Golan Heights (including the so called ‘Shebaa Farms’) falls under definition (i) but according to international law, a country may occupy a territory for defense purposes until the time that a peace deal is signed to the satisfaction of their security requirements. Settling (and annexing) the Golan may be a candidate for illegality depending on how you see those elements pertaining to ‘transferring’ one’s population as stipulated in Geneva.

          • libnan1

            “(i) The West Bank is not the territory of another existing sovereign country.” The definition of a country is what people that live on a given piece of land identify themselves. In the case of west bank the people identify themselves as Palestinians not Jordanians even though they might had been occupied by Jordan at one time, so the transfer of occupation from one state to another does not make the people lose their identify as an entity.

            Shaba farms were occupied at one time by Syria but it is Lebanese territory by which people that live there identify themselves and hold Lebanese identity. Lebanon had a truce agreement with Israel after 1948, therefore it was not at war with Israel was Israel occupied that land regardless.

            I don’t consider myself as a scholar in international law but what I know about individual rights in the US applies to people. Example my house is called the “Jones” house NOT an american territory where the Joneses’ live. If you take that and expanded to bigger scale it will the Palestinian sovereign place not Israel where Palestinians live.
            I guess this discussion could go on depending on ones view of but think about million of people living under occupation where they have no say. The occupation of Lebanon Shaba farms is like your neighbor chopping part of your back yard and holding on to it because they have bigger guns.

            All this will come back to the definition of a terrorist, A person that uses his body as way to defend himself is not terrorist as you defined him. The ones the flew airplane to kill American people for no reason what so ever are indeed terrorists as you defined them.

          • 5thDrawer

            Let us agree that ANY government, even your own, can ‘Annex’ anything you think you owned … ostensibly ‘for the common good’ … and some allow you to fight an extradition, some don’t. Mostly, if you are out-voted, you lose. Some allow what they think is ‘fair compensation’ by tricky economic figures – but no-one can compensate feelings. Most of us walk away sad … a few haul out a gun and get their heads blown off for the effort. The ‘Common’ don’t really care. :-))))
            ‘Law’ can help … if it’s made ‘for’ all people. Then we see it as ‘luck of the draw’.
            (you picked a bad spot to live – eventually something was going to get you)

          • 5thDrawer

            Let us agree that ANY government, even your own, can ‘Annex’ anything you think you owned … ostensibly ‘for the common good’ … and some allow you to fight an extradition, some don’t. Mostly, if you are out-voted, you lose. Some allow what they think is ‘fair compensation’ by tricky economic figures – but no-one can compensate feelings. Most of us walk away sad … a few haul out a gun and get their heads blown off for the effort. The ‘Common’ don’t really care. :-))))
            ‘Law’ can help … if it’s made ‘for’ ALL people.
            Then we see it as ‘luck of the draw’. (you picked a bad spot to live – eventually something was going to get you)
            When ‘Mother Nature’ swells a river and washes away the land and your house, all you can do is re-build somewhere else … and cry … (although many think they they should be compensated for nature, I guess, but then it’s people helping people) … and you get on with life as best you can.
            (And some idiots try to re-build on the flood-plain … what can I say?)

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            ” The definition of a country is what people that live on a given piece
            of land identify themselves. In the case of west bank the people
            identify themselves as Palestinians not Jordanians even though they
            might had been occupied by Jordan at one time, so the transfer of
            occupation from one state to another does not make the people lose their
            identify as an entity.” + “I don’t consider myself as a scholar in international law but what I
            know about individual rights in the US applies to people. Example my
            house is called the “Jones” house NOT an american territory where the
            Joneses’ live. If you take that and expanded to bigger scale it will the
            Palestinian sovereign place not Israel where Palestinians live.”
            *That isn’t how international law works. I didn’t say that settling the land was good or bad. I think we can agree that it is problematic at the very least. I never said that the status quo is something I support but it is far more complicated than many people would have you believe.

            “Shaba farms were occupied at one time by Syria but it is Lebanese
            territory by which people that live there identify themselves and hold
            Lebanese identity. Lebanon had a truce agreement with Israel after 1948,
            therefore it was not at war with Israel was Israel occupied that land
            regardless.”

            * The Lebanese army did technically cross the border and fire a few shots etc in 1948. Nevertheless, the territory in question was taken from Syria in 1967. It was under Syrian rule. The matter never came up from the early mandate years until Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon. Even if you are a FPM supporter or Hezbollah sympathizer, it is very difficult for me to swallow that you won’t face the fact that this Shebaa Farms issue is a complete red herring. Also, no one even lives there.

            “All this will come back to the definition of a terrorist, A person
            that uses his body as way to defend himself is not terrorist as you
            defined him. The ones the flew airplane to kill American people for no
            reason what so ever are indeed terrorists as you defined them.”
            * Of course. Nelson Mandela was also a terrorist. The Etzel and Lehi of pre-state Israel were terrorists too. Sometimes one may agree with the ultimate goal of some terrorists. They may fight for something one considers to be just. However, the big watershed be considered by some to be 9/11 in that the USA (supposedly) and her western allies decided that it is never justified to use those tactics. I would say that killing non-combatants is never justified even when I agree with the goals.

          • 5thDrawer

            Would YOU live there?? You want to be a farmer??
            To me, the greatest danger is that some asshole ‘developer’ thinks it would be a great place to pave over and plant only concrete hovels for the future starving idiots who would buy them up for ‘profits’. (my lonely opinion)

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            I really don’t know anymore Drawer. It’s a big mess. Moving to somewhere rural has crossed my mind but not necessarily there. I probably won’t. Tel Aviv is such an extreme urban area and other towns are so provincial by comparison. What I’d like is a happy medium.

            In all honesty, the settlements would be much less of a problem if their inhabitants would be safe, secure and equal as Palestinian citizens.

          • 5thDrawer

            Well Adam … that’s a truism everywhere … the ‘citi-folk’ vs the ‘country folk’ live life at different paces, for sure. We now need to have ‘course’ and ‘programmes’ in the ‘mega-cities’ to teach kids that corn doesn’t grow in cans, and that meat actually comes from an animal. Too weird. ‘They’ buy up houses that used to have room around them for gardens, and plant towers-of-life cramming in as many as possible – who rarely talk to each other on an elevator. Did you ever drive behind someone who thought gravel would be hard on their car?? They have forgotten what shocks and springs were designed for – and cause you to slam on a brake for their fears.
            :-)))) (yah .. I have a lot of gripes about ‘too many’ 😉

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Most people here seem to be blissfully unaware of the fact that they aren’t the only person on earth. They walk straight into you!

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            ” The definition of a country is what people that live on a given piece
            of land identify themselves. In the case of west bank the people
            identify themselves as Palestinians not Jordanians even though they
            might had been occupied by Jordan at one time, so the transfer of
            occupation from one state to another does not make the people lose their
            identify as an entity.” + “I don’t consider myself as a scholar in international law but what I
            know about individual rights in the US applies to people. Example my
            house is called the “Jones” house NOT an american territory where the
            Joneses’ live. If you take that and expanded to bigger scale it will the
            Palestinian sovereign place not Israel where Palestinians live.”
            *That isn’t how international law works. I didn’t say that settling the land was good or bad. I think we can agree that it is problematic at the very least. I never said that the status quo is something I support but it is far more complicated than many people would have you believe.

            “Shaba farms were occupied at one time by Syria but it is Lebanese
            territory by which people that live there identify themselves and hold
            Lebanese identity. Lebanon had a truce agreement with Israel after 1948,
            therefore it was not at war with Israel was Israel occupied that land
            regardless.”

            * The Lebanese army did technically cross the border and fire a few shots etc in 1948. Nevertheless, the territory in question was taken from Syria in 1967. It was under Syrian rule. The matter never came up from the early mandate years until Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon. Even if you are a FPM supporter or Hezbollah sympathizer, it is very difficult for me to swallow that you won’t face the fact that this Shebaa Farms issue is a complete red herring. Also, no one even lives there.

            “All this will come back to the definition of a terrorist, A person
            that uses his body as way to defend himself is not terrorist as you
            defined him. The ones the flew airplane to kill American people for no
            reason what so ever are indeed terrorists as you defined them.”
            * Of course. Nelson Mandela was also a terrorist. The Etzel and Lehi of pre-state Israel were terrorists too. Sometimes one may agree with the ultimate goal of some terrorists. They may fight for something one considers to be just. However, the big watershed be considered by some to be 9/11 in that the USA (supposedly) and her western allies decided that it is never justified to use those tactics. I would say that killing non-combatants is never justified even when I agree with the goals.

          • 5thDrawer

            Does the word ‘Annex’ (to seize territory; to add or ‘attach’ something) give any hint as to the ‘feelings’ of what it is, regardless of whether by ‘war’ or not? Putin has recently tried to create new meanings, of course, and is failing miserably at it ALSO.
            AND It does not refer to people, but to objects.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            To annex is to officially add an area to the country. Legal or illegal, right or wrong. We could argue all day as to whether the Six Day War was really defensive. I’ve taken classes on it. I can see both sides of that one but obviously I think it was defensive all in all and there was a real popular hysteria here just preceding it.

          • 5thDrawer

            I’m simple. I use the dictionary meanings. Of course, I can understand the reasons for ‘hysteria’. Anything that leaves people out of control and in doubt of future produces that – and unlike earthquakes, for instance, war is a great people-manufactured way to produce hysteria. If they can never get back to the ‘simple’ afterward, they ALL lose.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Surely but it has been discovered that the Egyptians had a detailed war plan. They were prevented from carrying it out previously due to Soviet intervention. Unfortunately, a series of screw ups and the Soviets sticking their noses in again led to a stupid military situation on the eve of the Israeli strike and Nasser gave the go ahead at the last minute. In terms of how it happened, it was the most ridiculous of ridiculous wars. Rabin had a nervous breakdown after Ben Gurion told him that he’s an idiot for tough talking without having any backup. PM Levi Eshkol went on the radio to calm people down who were clamoring for Moshe Dayan to be made DM. He insisted on doing it live and then mixed up his sheets. It sounded to the nation like the PM was stuttering and talking rubbish which only increased the hysteria in the face of Nasser and co’s aggressive rhetoric.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            To annex is to officially add an area to the country. Legal or illegal, right or wrong. We could argue all day as to whether the Six Day War was really defensive. I’ve taken classes on it. I can see both sides of that one but obviously I think it was defensive all in all and there was a real popular hysteria here just preceding it.

          • 5thDrawer

            I’m simple. I use the dictionary meanings. Of course, I can understand the reasons for ‘hysteria’. Anything that leaves people out of control and in doubt of future produces that – and unlike earthquakes, for instance, war is a great people-manufactured way to produce hysteria. If they can never get back to the ‘simple’ afterward, they ALL lose.

          • Farq2

            Then the Geneva Convention definition would make Israel one of the biggest terrorist in the world.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Actually, according to the proper definition of a terrorist, a state cannot be a terrorist. I’m not justifying anything, I’m just talking semantics. I do think though that if a Palestinian state could protect a Jewish minority as full Palestinian citizens then it wouldn’t be such a problem.

          • 5thDrawer

            I think Somalia came close to it … but then, it didn’t have government. 😉

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Sure, sure. Syria is currently war criminals vs. terrorists for the most part.

          • 5thDrawer

            I think Somalia came close to it … but then, it didn’t have government. 😉

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Sure, sure. Syria is currently war criminals vs. terrorists for the most part.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            It’s a tricky one. The Geneva Convention definition is rather odd. I would invite you to discuss it. It states that the definition applies to (i) the territory of another state, (ii) territory at war, (iii) territory not at war. It is forbidden to transfer your population into a territory of one of those definitions under your military control.

            Regarding (i) The West Bank is not the territory of another existing sovereign country. It was previously under Jordanian rule which wasn’t recognized by anyone but the UK and Pakistan. The UK didn’t recognize Jordanian rule of East Jerusalem though. Before that, it was under British rule, before that Ottoman. Jordan renounced all claims in 1988.

            Regarding (ii) There isn’t a war going on in the traditional sense that would be covered by this definition.

            Regarding (iii) What on earth does this mean? Are all places built since the Geneva Convention illegal? Is it just things that were built under military rule? If you annex the territory, is it legal to build there?

            The preamble makes a statement against the acquisition of territory by war. There is debate on whether this war was a war for territory or not. What if it wasn’t? (Are you able to consider the possibility?).

            Furthermore, the resolutions in question were formulated during (or just after?) WWII in the context of Nazi Germany. It was less in the context of Germans settling Poland etc and more in the context of them forcefully transferring Jews, Roma, homosexuals and other people they didn’t like, to foreign territory for extermination or hard labour. One may apply it elsewhere but does encouragement to settle count? If it does, it cannot possibly apply to those who move somewhere without permission.

            We can see that Turks moving to Northern Cyprus falls under definition (i) but were they encouraged, moved forcefully? Is it illegal due to Cypriot sovereignty and as totally separate from Geneva?

            What about Western Sahara? Is the area West of the berm an illegally occupied and settled territory? It doesn’t fall under sections one or two. I’m pretty sure they annexed it too.

            East Jerusalem was annexed (so was the former Israeli – Jordanian no man’s land around the Latrun Salient). Is this not like Western Sahara perhaps?

            The Golan Heights (including the so called ‘Shebaa Farms’) falls under definition (i) but according to international law, a country may occupy a territory for defense purposes until the time that a peace deal is signed to the satisfaction of their security requirements. Settling (and annexing) the Golan may be a candidate for illegality depending on how you see those elements pertaining to ‘transferring’ one’s population as stipulated in Geneva.

          • Farq2

            Then the Geneva Convention definition would make Israel one of the biggest terrorist in the world.

        • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

          A terrorist is a non-state actor who attacks non-combatants (including soldiers who are on leave in uniform) for leverage and/or fear for political purposes.

          • Prophettttt

            No interest in your definitions or in anything you have to say.Bla bla bla until the end of time.I know where I stand and I know where people like you stand. Thanks for taking the time,however,I suggest you don’t do it again.I gave you the courtesy once,but won’t happen again.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            That’s cause you’re a big fat racist like Hind. That’s not my definition, that’s the proper, academic definition. GFY

    • ghassan Karam

      Prophettttt,
      No one has ever suggested , not in this short column, that Hezbollah did not play a crucial role in resisting occupation and injustice. The essential point that I am making; and I have no choice but to repeat myself :-); is that resistance is a universal idea, it is an intrinsic right, just like liberty and freedom. Resistance belongs to all and thus it would not make any sense to use the term in an exclusive way. Either citizens have the right to resist or they do not. But since they definitely do then it is folly to treat it as a personal commodity and as a means for exceptionalism.

      • Geo

        Ghassan, Since I was a shaken baby and dropped baby I can only think and speak in illustrations 🙂 the concept of an open ended a state within a state is no different than a marriage being revised to be an open marriage…..for only one of the spouses! How long can that marriage be healthy enough to last? exclusivity works both ways!!!

        • ghassan Karam

          Geo,
          I like that analogy. I really do.

      • barabie

        Well said Ghassan. As for prophetttt who is obviously blinded by his love do nasty, in 2006 I supported the hezzies but in 2014 I say they are terrorists and anyone who supports them is a terrorist sympathiser.

        • MekensehParty

          More proof of what a hypocrite you are

          • 5thDrawer

            Everybody gets an ‘up’ … hahahahahaha

          • MekensehParty

            Here’s one for you

        • Farq2

          Lol, who cares what you say. Certainly not me

      • Guest

        In other words, if some Lebanese group decided to resist Hezbollah then they also have the right to be called “resistance” since Hezbollah should hold no monopoly on the resistance name.

      • nagy_michael2

        Ghassan I totally agree with you response and the South had suffered a lot and still is. But just because the resistance then won a war against Israel. Then doesn’t give Hezbollah to keep the south in fighting forever. there were no need to kidnap and kill israeli soldiers in 2006 in order to prove Iran new war tactics.. and also because of Nassrallah ego to free Samir Quntar. I know Israel had done brutal acts against Lebanese and Palestinians. But as civilized human being we should not approve of baby killer like Quntar. we should not have sacrified 1000 people plus thousands of wounded and destruction of insfracture because hezbollah wanted to wage war. just because you fought and won against Israel that doesn’t give them the right to control Lebanon. Anyone denies that is my opinion is a traitor and peace of crap.

      • man-o-war

        I don’t really see how a group calling itself the “resistance” is monopolizing resistance. Other groups can just as easily start a resistance group to the resistance or anything else they want to resist. There is no fee you have to pay them to be able to call yourself a resistance (as far as I know). People in Lebanon are still free to resist. If you’re not resisting anything, why would anyone call you a resistance? I agree that everyone has a right to resist, that right has not been taking away from anyone that wants to resist. I also agree they use the term to try and win sympathy from the masses, but thats just politics in my opinion.

        Does the Free Patriotic Movement have an exclusive right on patriotism?

        • cook2half

          Invading Syria to keep a butcher in power is not Lebanese resistance

          • man-o-war

            Ok, not sure how that has anything to do with my comment. Just because I call myself the resistance and try to win support under that slogan, doesn’t mean I have to actually resist anything. Have you ever followed a political race?

            Maybe they think they are a Lebanese resistance by acting preemptively to stop the establishment of a caliphate in Lebanon, they had to “invade” Syria. You know lots about preemptive attacks. Right?

          • cook2half

            “You know lots about preemptive attacks. Right?” lol………………….

            I agree they are a resistance movement for Iran. The Iranian army is quite resistant to fight a battle themselves after how that clown Saddam Hussain embarrassed them.

          • man-o-war

            haha, ok. Well, I guess you do think they’re a resistance group. Maybe the US weapons were better than the Russian weapons.

          • cook2half

            Ukraine will destroy the Russian terrorists. The old empire is crumbling.. from Tartous to Crimea. AIPAC is on board with this.

          • Farq2

            HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa, Ukraine will destroy the Russians. It’s time for you to go back to day care. Children shouldn’t be interacting will the grown ups when it come to politics. Stick that pacifier back in your mouth and find a corner for your afternoon nap.

          • cook2half

            +20 =/= children

          • libnan1

            You must be getting good at playing Angry Birds !!!

          • cook2half

            מה פתאום 😛

          • Farq2

            I think he plays with something else, If you know what I mean.

          • Farq2

            I think he plays with something else, If you know what I mean.

          • Hind Abyad

            Aipac, Israel, voltures and scarecrows..

          • 5thDrawer

            Natzi-Shmatzie …. the poor and suffering had had enough. They had thought there was a chance with some new trading partners – which their President had arranged too, along with the parliament – but Putin stuck in extra $$ (and maybe a did a little stick-handling) and the despot changed his mind. And that’s when the starving decided to have a look at his rambling home and various collections of treasures he had grown accustomed to. Ooopsie.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            You know, prior to emancipation, in the Christian world, it was always the Jews who were accused and blamed. Did you go to a medieval school?

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            You know, prior to emancipation, in the Christian world, it was always the Jews who were accused and blamed. Did you go to a medieval school?

          • ghassan Karam

            man-o-war,
            Allow me a very brief response to your above statement. (1) When George Bush introduced the concept of preemptive strikes the whole world including all Arab countries criticised it. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. (2) even if we are to accept the right for preemptive strike then we have to also accept the fact that in all states there is an authority that acts on behalf of the people. Hezbollah has no right to wage preemptive strikes on behalf of the Lebanese. (3) I have no problems if Lebanese citizens want to join the fight in Syria. It is their privilege. (4) Hezbollah however was part of a cabinet that declared its neutrality on this issue and so they could not have it both ways.

          • man-o-war

            I understand what you’re saying, but my response to cook2long was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. He’s a zionist and the Israelis use the “preemptive” strike often as the reason they had to act. Honestly, I think HA should have stayed out of Syria. If the groups who’s desire is to establish a caliphate in Lebanon started acting on those desires, then HA would have been more justified in taking action. They would have also had more public support in Lebanon. They took a gamble and acted more to protect an ally. They saw a realistic threat to their alliance and pipeline for weapons. I think that was the main reason they acted. By acting alone and outside the government approval they undermined the Lebanese government and military, thus making them look weak and impotent.

          • cook2half

            Make that takfiri-zionist.

            Lets be honest, the shaitan didnt want to get involved at the beginning of the conflict. Even Nasrallah was quoted of telling Assad to take it easy on the protesters. But master Khamenei back in Tehran decided its time to for Nasrushaitan to make tough choices. Thats right, all Iran’s orders. 1979 was a lie.

          • libnan1

            Completely disagree, HA acted properly because it would be too late if you thousands of Takfiris on the Lebanese borders and countless inside who support them. That would have been a disaster. They only people that don’t support their role in Syria are the few meaningless M farteen.

          • man-o-war

            Are you saying that M14 want the takfiris to take over Lebanon?

            It’s hard for us to say exactly why they acted, we don’t know. We are guessing and going off what HA has said. It’s true however that if Syria fell, the alliance between HA, Syria, and Iran would have been disrupted. This would have made getting supplies and resources to HA much more difficult. I agree with you that if thousands of “takfiris” were at the border it would have been a more difficult task for HA, but on the other hand they would have had more sympathy and support from some of the ones against them at the moment. It would have been a clear and present danger to Lebanon and our way of life. If you think about it, there are still thousands of “takfiris” at Lebanon’s door step and many thousands of sympathizers already inside. However, now some could argue that HA is spread thin and not focused on the home front.

          • libnan1

            I don’t think M 14 want takifies and most of them agree with HA but there public positions are politics. Look what happened Saudi, they replaced the dude who was supporting takfieis.
            The flow of weapons along a whole bunch of things would be interrupted if Syria was to fall. The war was started to weaken the Syrian position for complete comprehensive peace in the ME and taking Golan heights out of the picture.
            Trust me HA is working for the interest of Lebanon, the Shia population don’t like to be in a state of war all the time. They are like us have families and they want to raise them in peace.

          • man-o-war

            I think the resentment for the ruling party has been there for a long time in Syria. This resentment was used by outside influence that wants to weaken the HA, Iran, Syria alliance , so they stirred the hornets nest. It was the right moment to seize the opportunity, just make it look like the natural progression of the Arab spring uprisings.

          • libnan1

            I don’t think M 14 want takifies and most of them agree with HA but there public positions are politics. Look what happened Saudi, they replaced the dude who was supporting takfieis.
            The flow of weapons along a whole bunch of things would be interrupted if Syria was to fall. The war was started to weaken the Syrian position for complete comprehensive peace in the ME and taking Golan heights out of the picture.
            Trust me HA is working for the interest of Lebanon, the Shia population don’t like to be in a state of war all the time. They are like us have families and they want to raise them in peace.

          • man-o-war

            I think the resentment for the ruling party has been there for a long time in Syria. This resentment was used by outside influence that wants to weaken the HA, Iran, Syria alliance , so they stirred the hornets nest. It was the right moment to seize the opportunity, just make it look like the natural progression of the Arab spring uprisings.

          • Geo

            The resistance can do no wrong PERIOD, that is my story and I am sticking to it lol, hope you are doing well Mano, still hoping to make it to Miami to clear my head for a couple of days… will let you know 🙂

          • Hind Abyad

            Did you try red Margarita?

          • Geo

            No not yet 🙁 do you have a recipe for me? I hope it is not to strong…. I am a light weight and a trouble maker just on caffeine alone :)P

          • Hind Abyad

            Yes and i can’t find that picture, it’s called Red Bloody Margarita, sitting by the swiming pool…

          • MaImequer0

            lol.. why don’t you post your recipes on-line? Try foodie dot com.. I suggest you post
            Baked Zucchini Boats With Cherry Tomatoes

          • MaImequer0

            lol.. why don’t you post your recipes on-line? Try foodie dot com.. I suggest you post
            Baked Zucchini Boats With Cherry Tomatoes

          • Hind Abyad

            Did you try red Margarita?

          • …some guy

            No not yet 🙁 do you have a recipe for me? I hope it is not to strong…. I am a light weight and a trouble maker just on caffeine alone :)P

          • man-o-war

            Doing well, thank you. Hope all is well with you too. You’re welcome anytime. I’ll be here until mid April.

          • MekensehParty

            Ahahaha would have been a disaster you say?
            What do you call a suicide bombing a week? fireworks?

          • man-o-war

            I understand what you’re saying, but my response to cook2long was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. He’s a zionist and the Israelis use the “preemptive” strike often as the reason they had to act. Honestly, I think HA should have stayed out of Syria. If the groups who’s desire is to establish a caliphate in Lebanon started acting on those desires, then HA would have been more justified in taking action. They would have also had more public support in Lebanon. They took a gamble and acted more to protect an ally. They saw a realistic threat to their alliance and pipeline for weapons. I think that was the main reason they acted. By acting alone and outside the government approval they undermined the Lebanese government and military, thus making them look weak and impotent.

          • libnan1

            The resistance is not fighting in Syria to keep a butcher, it’s fighting to keep Lebanon safe from the Takfiris.

          • cook2half

            There were no car bombs in Lebanon before Iran’s proxy made its way to Damascus and Aleppo

          • libnan1

            There would have been a lot more car bombs if HA did not interfere in Syria. You think Takfiris were just gonna stay in Syria !!!!

          • cook2half

            Hezbushaitan has lost at least 500 men fighting in Syria, lots of commanders included. Hope Al Qaeda and Hezbushaitan the very best.

            Meanwhile, Assad must step down and a new government must be formed through dialogue

          • Farq2

            Yes, a new government made up of puppets who are controlled by the west to serve Israel. lol. In your dreams Cookie, In your dreams.

          • cook2half

            Gotta build a relationship with Israel at some point already. Nothing better than peace and stability. Its important for the people to familiarize themselves with each other especially. Not like now that Mubarak got overthrown, both Sisi and the MB accuse each other of being Jewish and we go back to stage 1.

          • Hind Abyad

            Are running for an election? Nobody will vote for you

          • cook2half

            Silly little weasel, go run to the bathroom

          • cook2half

            Silly little weasel, go run to the bathroom

          • libnan1

            You know that is up to the Syrians to decide as long as there are no Al queda/takfiris/wahabies are in power alone.

          • Hind Abyad

            The Saudi Rats jailed a woman driving her father to the hospital.

          • MaImequer0

            OK, you don;t like KSA, what country do you suggest to be a role model in the ME?
            LOL… FYI, the answer is not iran.

          • cook2half

            Hezbushaitan has lost at least 500 men fighting in Syria, lots of commanders included. Hope Al Qaeda and Hezbushaitan the very best.

            Meanwhile, Assad must step down and a new government must be formed through dialogue

          • Farq2

            And yet all these idiots including the one who wrote this bull shit biased piece can’t see that. Makes you wonder, hey Libnan.

          • libnan1

            Yeah added it to a slew of articles, one days it’s Aoun the next day it’s HA. It’s all paid for my man.

          • Farq2

            Doesn’t make a difference brother, Aoun will be President and HA is here to stay. And the rest of these clowns will need to get used to it.

          • libnan1

            yep they can write all the articles they want. Neither Aoun nor HA going anywhere after all they have 3/4 of the people behind them.

          • MekensehParty

            You ladies done liking each other’s comment?
            Done applauding the nonsense you utter and only idiots like you believe?
            Cause the world is turning outside the little room you call your minds and it’s turning totally in the other direction you hope it would.

          • Farq2

            This coming from a lunatic who follows the ideologies of that other lunatic McCain. Look around my friend, it seem your beloved US is falling apart. Tell me, hows the poverty in your almighty country going. Have you got enough food stamps to feed your family. It must tear you apart to know that no matter what the west does, they can never get ride of HA. No my friend, I most certainly know which direction the world is turning. The question is, does that one brain cell you think with know the direction.

          • MekensehParty

            Ah yes, the aljazeera poverty in the US report or should I call it the bible of the anti-US propagandist?
            What the article failed to mention is the definition of poor in the US which is totally different from the definition of poor in Qatar.
            Know this little basij
            A poor person in the US lives better than a middle class European.
            What’s poor in your region we call it misery, or to be more accurate dark age level misery, look at the streets of Tehran and you can understand what I’m saying (if your basij buddy doesn’t slap you immediately for opening your eyes to reality).
            Keep believing the refrain that you have learned from the mouth of Khomeini and repeated since you started pronouncing: dar dar Amrika! Dar dar Amrika!
            For now 300 million Americans are eating their fill while you and your buddies in the revolutionary guard are eating your words!

          • MekensehParty

            You ladies done liking each other’s comment?
            Done applauding the nonsense you utter and only idiots like you believe?
            Cause the world is turning outside the little room you call your minds and it’s turning totally in the other direction you hope it would.

          • libnan1

            Yeah added it to a slew of articles, one days it’s Aoun the next day it’s HA. It’s all paid for my man.

          • MekensehParty

            And what a great job they’re doing keeping takfiris out…
            You are so ridiculous.

          • MekensehParty

            And what a great job they’re doing keeping takfiris out…
            You are so ridiculous.

        • libnan1

          Affirmative FPM does not have an exclusive right on patriotism, we invite all Lebanese parties to join us. Lebanon is for all Lebanese including the resistance which paid along with the Lebanese army the ultimate price.

          • cook2half

            Oh good so the SLA can move back in?

          • libnan1

            Most of the innocent that left because they were afraid had returned already and no one bothers them.

          • cook2half

            I meant into government though, would be nice to have a pro-Israel lobby in Beirut

          • libnan1

            No that would not happen.

          • Hind Abyad

            It’s like they already own it..ha ha..!

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Yeah so much that the only thing you can’t do in Lebanon is speak about peace with Israel. Moron.

          • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

            Yeah so much that the only thing you can’t do in Lebanon is speak about peace with Israel. Moron.

          • MekensehParty

            Sure sure
            Paid in TNT in downtown Beirut

        • ghassan Karam

          man-0-war,
          Of course you bring up an excellent point and of course I thought about it when I was writing the column. But you must admit that a resistance that is not open for all violates the very principle of what a resistance should be especially when a group insists on bearing arms despite the laws of the land and would prevent others from joining. The issue is not only what a group calls itself but the way that it sees itself. Hezbollah has the right and the facts support this to think of themselves as having resisted but they are not exclusively “resistance”. That is discriminatory and by the way it is their insistence on being treated exceptionally that has resulted in what amounts to blackmail of the authorities. Had it not been an exclusive treatment then they would not have the power that they do. It would not do for another group to resist because no one else would be allowed to smuggle weapons, defy laws, maintain an army… The special construct of Hezbollah is totally grounded in its being looked upon as the exclusive resistance.

          • MekensehParty

            Not true, only Hezbollah was allowed to keep its weapons. No other resistance was allowed.

          • man-o-war

            Maybe not allowed, but they all kept them anyway. Every group in Lebanon is armed to the teeth. HA might be the one with the biggest and most powerful arsenal, but thats just because their allies are willing to supply them.

          • MekensehParty

            They kept nothing,
            Where would artillery pieces, tanks and armored vehicles + all their ammo and parts be hidden? Who has missiles or was allowed to get missiles by “allies” to fight and resist? Can the LF open port Jounieh and get missiles and all kind of weapons in the name of resisting Israel like Hezbollah is doing with the airport and all ports?
            Firearms, sniper rifles, grenades and rpgs don’t fight wars, you need the heavy stuff and only Hezbollah was allowed to have it because it’s an Iranian controlled tool who was riding on just Lebanese causes.
            But the masks have fallen a long time ago, and more and more recently for others…
            Of course there’s you and yours (lol) who refuse to see this reality still defending hezbollahs title of resistant when you’ve all seen with your own eyes and do recognize that he extended his resistance “responsibilities” beyond the mandate given to him by the Lebanese people. Therefore, the people today, no longer supports the resistance role and that beautiful equation you dictated in Doha no longer stands.

          • man-o-war

            HA has tanks and armored vehicles?
            Maybe HA has “allies” that are willing to provide them with the weapons and LF doesn’t.
            It’s hard saying who has what, unless you have some inside intel that none of us are privy to.

          • man-o-war

            HA has tanks and armored vehicles?
            Maybe HA has “allies” that are willing to provide them with the weapons and LF doesn’t.
            It’s hard saying who has what, unless you have some inside intel that none of us are privy to.

        • MekensehParty

          Some Lebanese were not allowed to resist Syrian occupation…
          What are you talking about?
          Aoun and his clique were silenced for opposing Syrian rule. MTV was closed because aoun was interviewed criticizing Syrian hegemony.
          Other more honorable went to jail for resisting the Syrian occupation.
          Only Iran’s army was allowed to arm itself.
          Enough falsification of history!

          • man-o-war

            “Some Lebanese were not allowed to resist Syrian occupation” , did I say this or are you saying this? I’m pretty sure I didn’t say this. What time period are you talking about here? Didn’t the Lebanese unite and resist Syrian occupation? Forcing them to leave. Where is the false history? Are you saying that anyone that tried to resist was silenced? If thats the case, maybe they should have resisted harder. Resisting doesn’t mean the aggressor is obliged to accommodate. There are going to be periods of trials and tribulation. Israel didn’t leave overnight because HA resisted.
            I’m also not buying into the idea that HA was the only group arming itself. Every group had its backers and every group had/has an arsenal.

            It’s getting confusing, because the comment is not next to the post you’re replying to.

        • MekensehParty

          Some Lebanese were not allowed to resist Syrian occupation…
          What are you talking about?
          Aoun and his clique were silenced for opposing Syrian rule. MTV was closed because aoun was interviewed criticizing Syrian hegemony.
          Other more honorable went to jail for resisting the Syrian occupation.
          Only Iran’s army was allowed to arm itself.
          Enough falsification of history!

      • MekensehParty

        That’s the problem with Lebanese journalism, you guys are simply scared and end up contradicting yourselves only to appease the bully.
        Life for southerners, Shia included, was much better under the Israeli occupation than under Hezbollah occupation. The Israeli justice was much better than hezbollah’s present justice. Why did you have to antagonize a beautifully written article only to throw eulogy words for the resistance you just wiped the floor with? Why did you go and gave them credit contradicting all you have said?
        Stop being afraid!!!

        • man-o-war

          Haha, you didn’t like his response to the comments. So you attack him and basically call him a coward, nice. I think its okay for him to clarify himself and defend his article. I also didn’t see him contradicting himself.

          Just exactly who are you to speak for all the Lebanese living in the south? It’s silly to pretend that you know what was good for all Lebanese (Shia included, lol). It’s impossible to even pretend to back up this statement with facts.

          Sounds like you would be happy if Lebanon was just annexed by Israel. Should we go ahead and just surrender south Lebanon to the Israelis? Up to the Litani or to Beirut? lol

          • MekensehParty

            Of course he contradicted himself. When he acknowledges that the resistance did resistance work how can he later write that the resistance is NOT a resistance?
            It is also naïve to believe that it was Hezbollah who got the Israelis out of south Lebanon. Israel would have never ever left. It was a deal that would benefit the state of Lebanon and its prestige, and bring back all the weapons under the official armed forces. Both the Syrians and Hezbollah did not want it. The first because it remained the only Arab country with territory occupied by Israel and clearly had no intentions of creating a Hezbollah of its own, and the second because it removed the legitimacy of its weapons. That’s why they ran and found a parcel of land they claimed is still occupied to keep Lebanon in the resistance axis and keep an Iranian army in the levant.
            The Israeli withdrawal was a plan of Hariri
            go get some lessons in politics for god’s sake

          • man-o-war

            Once again, we can agree to disagree on that. He stated that they can claim to have resisted and that there are facts to back it up. Having resisted (past) and still being a resistance NOW is different.

            When things get too costly for Israel to hold they tend to leave. For example Gaza and South Lebanon. You think they left Gaza as a kind gesture to the Palestinians? Not surprised if you do, since you seem to believe they left Lebanon as an olive branch to Hariri. How kind of them to leave land that never belonged to them. Maybe all we need is a pro-Israel military and government to get the illegal incursions to stop. I’m sure they would be more than willing to allow us our fair share of oil and gas off the coast.

            “The Israeli withdrawal was a plan of Hariri go get some lessons in politics for god’s sake”,whatever you say, politics and history is only one sided with you. If the version doesn’t match yours it must be lies and propaganda. Are you given any political lessons anytime soon? I just want to prep and make sure I get the right textbook ; )

          • MekensehParty

            Of course he contradicted himself. When he acknowledges that the resistance did resistance work how can he later write that the resistance is NOT a resistance?
            It is also naïve to believe that it was Hezbollah who got the Israelis out of south Lebanon. Israel would have never ever left. It was a deal that would benefit the state of Lebanon and its prestige, and bring back all the weapons under the official armed forces. Both the Syrians and Hezbollah did not want it. The first because it remained the only Arab country with territory occupied by Israel and clearly had no intentions of creating a Hezbollah of its own, and the second because it removed the legitimacy of its weapons. That’s why they ran and found a parcel of land they claimed is still occupied to keep Lebanon in the resistance axis and keep an Iranian army in the levant.
            The Israeli withdrawal was a plan of Hariri
            go get some lessons in politics for god’s sake

      • MekensehParty

        That’s the problem with Lebanese journalism, you guys are simply scared and end up contradicting yourselves only to appease the bully.
        Life for southerners, Shia included, was much better under the Israeli occupation than under Hezbollah occupation. The Israeli justice was much better than hezbollah’s present justice. Why did you have to antagonize a beautifully written article only to throw eulogy words for the resistance you just wiped the floor with? Why did you go and gave them credit contradicting all you have said?
        Stop being afraid!!!

    • MekensehParty

      You are very wrong! It is not the “resistance” or its Mahdi fighters that allowed the liberation of the land. It was one person that set a plan for rebuilding a state and that name is Rafic Hariri. It was that name that the Israelis counted on when they left in 2000. Whether you like him or not, he put an illegitimate country back on the map, his friends were presidents and kings, and as long as he was in power the international community trusted him to hold the country together. The Israeli exit from Lebanon was meant to exactly remove the reason d’être of a resistance and allow for the state takeover of the liberated land and the whole land.
      It was then that the mask finally fell and the “resistance” revealed their true intentions which was and always will be to be an Iranian army in the levant. They took credit for an INCOMPLETE liberation by their acknowledgment. Your resistance sir has NOT liberated Lebanon. They came out with the chebaa farm bullshit, made it swallow to the stupid population and remained under the title of resistance. Lately they declared that they will remain the resistance until the liberation of Jerusalem… So please spare us the heroics where there are none. This is no “resistance”, it’s a bunch of Lebanese mercenaries fighting for Iran and its interest in the region.

      • master09

        When they liberate Jerusalem,well they never will or have a zero chance of doing so than they will come up with some other shit to brainwash the people and say something like, we have to resist the lost space creatures. Lol

      • Hind Abyad

        Yes Sharon sir..

      • Prophettttt

        I assure you that i only read few words of your reply,and that was enough, thank you for taking the time anyways.

        • Farq2

          lol, I must admit, what he writes is usually pretty pathetic anyway.

          • cook2half

            You call art pathetic?

          • Farq2

            And there’s another pathetic comment.

        • MekensehParty

          Typical Hezbollah behavior, not listening to anyone.

          • MekensehParty

            But that’s changing as your capital Dahyieh is rocked weekly by those sounds you love.
            Try to read a couple of words only of the next boom!
            No need to be prophet to predict that!

          • MekensehParty

            But that’s changing as your capital Dahyieh is rocked weekly by those sounds you love.
            Try to read a couple of words only of the next boom!
            No need to be prophet to predict that!

        • 5thDrawer

          Yah .. Hariri got a whole … errr … 6 years?

          • Prophettttt

            Thanks to you too, your whole comment is few words,and I only read few letters,lol

          • 5thDrawer

            Shorts feeling cool there, Prophetttttt ?? 😉

          • 5thDrawer

            Shorts feeling cool there, Prophetttttt ?? 😉

        • 5thDrawer

          Yah .. Hariri got a whole … errr … 6 years?

    • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

      HAHAHAHA rename Lebanese villages? What have you been taking???
      Also, the majority of Sunnis in power in Lebanon want Saudi tutelage and the majority of Shia want Iranian. This isn’t much better if better at all.

    • Adam Yonatan Ben Yoel

      HAHAHAHA rename Lebanese villages? What have you been taking???
      Also, the majority of Sunnis in power in Lebanon want Saudi tutelage and the majority of Shia want Iranian. This isn’t much better if better at all.

  • Guest

    Since Hezbollah is pro-Assad in Syria and they are currently helping Assad against the Syrian Resistance and Assad’s Syria has occupied Lebanon before, it can’t really be a pure Lebanese Resistance since it is only against Israel occupying Lebanon and not Syria (or Iran) occupying Lebanon. Since Hezbollah is only selectively biased against just Israel and not against others like Assad’s Syria that has occupied Lebanon, it really does make one question whether the Lebanese Resistance (Hezbollah) is really 100% pro-Lebanese and puts all of Lebanon’s interests first regarding Syria.

    • master09

      That is just the point A RESISTANCE is against ALL . When Syria was in Lebanon we never saw Resisting by HA did we. But I wait for someone to come up with some crap to make HA look good. The army is and should be the ONLY form of resistance if need be. Full stop.

    • Hind Abyad

      Another who is stranger to Middle East history..

  • Andre

    WOW, some people are drunk on the HA resistance Kool-Aid!

    A resistance fights all foreign occupying forces, including the Syrian occupation of Lebanon. HA is NOT a Lebanese resistance, it is an Iranian and Syrian tool that was marketed as such – and people bought it! This group is only concerned with its militia interests and not Lebanon’s. It serves its masters in Iran and Syria, Lebanon is merely a stage for HA.

    It was a joke then, when HA declared victory after getting pummeled by Israel in 2006 (and destroyed Lebanon), and they are still a joke today – to hide behind the “resistance” brand.

  • cook2half

    Imagine if the biggest army in the U.S. was not the U.S. army.

    This is Hezbushaitan in Lebanon.

    • 5thDrawer

      Imagine 4 million NRA make the ‘law’ for 350 mil …. 😉

      • cook2half

        🙂

  • callmeback

    Iran gave a few hundred millions to Hamas in Gaza while it will get trillions of Dollars and control over Iraq in return by siding with Bush in the war on Iraq. Best deal of the century for Iran. Not only that. They even get sympathy of the illiterate Anti-war and peace movement and leftist Hipsters in the west although Maliki is a sectarian iranian Puppet who himself rode on american Tanks to power. I love how the Hands off Syria bastards use the Iraqi scenario to argue against arming the syrian rebels. They still don´t get that Iran participated in the War against Saddam to get Iraq´s Oil. And they still don´t get that sectarian Bashar used to torture for Busch junior in his “war on Terror” and they still don´t get that Hafez Al Assad took part in Bush senior´s war on Iraq after Saddam invaded Kuwait.

    • Hind Abyad

      I read nothing, i the first 2 “your fucking”? I saw long four long letters you should write
      a book. But seriously must be mistaking me with someone else, i Absolutly Know Nothing
      of what you’re writing, i’m not in politics war acitivism militantisme jounalism, i never read the Coran, Bible, ancient or the testament. I like History, Jungian psychology and Art

      • MaImequer0

        lol…. really?

    • Hind Abyad

      I read nothing, i saw the first words “your fucking”. I saw four long letters..you should write
      a book. But seriously, you must be mistaking me with someone else, i Absolutly Know
      Nothing of what you’re writing, i’m not in politics, war, acitivism, militantisme, jounalism,
      i know nothing about Islam, i have some Moslem friends they never talk religion, i never
      read the Coran, Bible, ancient or new testament. But i like History, Opera, Jungian psychology Art, and i’m clostrophobic. Englsh is not my first language.

  • callmeback

    Since the “Oslo-distraction” where the arab “cow” got slaughtered Iran and Hezbollah cooped and monopolized not only the palestine cause but also the arab cause in general. There was basically no alternative. No true Nasserist nor MB and no Baathists and not even an arab Bourgeoisie challenging the Resistance fake Narrative. You had a few Bordello Arabs warning against Iran´s intentions for there own selfish reasons but Bordello Arab´s are seen by the arab street rightfully as sell outs living not in countries but in Petrol-stations of the globalized world . The fake “resistance” have forced with there media outlets an iranian strategic worldview on arabs in the levant. I always wondered for example why the Nasrallah and Assad mouthpiece Al Akhbar mouthpiece have such an Interest in the Armenian Christians. Syria took a lot of Armenians from turkey before the sectarian Assad regime toppled the government 4 decades ago. Arabs have no special Sympathy for Armenians and visa versa. They are neither pro nor contra Armenians. Like Armenians are not especially Sympathetic to Arabs or arab causes like Palestine. So why did Al Akhbar has such a key Interest in the Armenian genocide or alleged genocide discourse?. The Answer lies in Turkey and Erdogan´s government that started to compete with Iran for the hearts and minds of the arabs. Al Akhbar english is pushing the Armenian genocide because of the Turks who challenge the Iran´s monopole over arabs. The same with the Kurdish Question in Turkey. I mean Al Akhbar never talks about the Kurds in Iran for example. Nor does it talk how syrian kurds themselves were badly treated in Syria or the joint military Interventions of Iran and turkey against the PKK. Al Akhbar is pure propaganda. Advanced propaganda.

  • callmeback

    Since the “Oslo-distraction” where the arab “cow” got slaughtered Iran and Hezbollah cooped and monopolized not only the palestine cause but also the arab cause in general. There was basically no alternative. No true Nasserist nor MB and no Baathists and not even an arab Bourgeoisie challenging the Resistance fake Narrative. You had a few Bordello Arabs warning against Iran´s intentions for there own selfish reasons but Bordello Arab´s are seen by the arab street rightfully as sell outs living not in countries but in Petrol-stations of the globalized world . The fake “resistance” have forced with there media outlets an iranian strategic worldview on arabs in the levant. I always wondered for example why the Nasrallah and Assad mouthpiece Al Akhbar mouthpiece have such an Interest in the Armenian Christians. Syria took a lot of Armenians from turkey before the sectarian Assad regime toppled the government 4 decades ago. Arabs have no special Sympathy for Armenians and visa versa. They are neither pro nor contra Armenians. Like Armenians are not especially Sympathetic to Arabs or arab causes like Palestine. So why did Al Akhbar has such a key Interest in the Armenian genocide or alleged genocide discourse?. The Answer lies in Turkey and Erdogan´s government that started to compete with Iran for the hearts and minds of the arabs. Al Akhbar english is pushing the Armenian genocide because of the Turks who challenge the Iran´s monopole over arabs. The same with the Kurdish Question in Turkey. I mean Al Akhbar never talks about the Kurds in Iran for example. Nor does it talk how syrian kurds themselves were badly treated in Syria or the joint military Interventions of Iran and turkey against the PKK. Al Akhbar is pure propaganda. Advanced propaganda.

  • callmeback

    Hezbollah and the “resistance” learned a lot from the Zionist Hazbara´s. For example. As the Zionist use the Anti-semite card to silence critic against the zionist entity hezbollah is using sectarianism or the Wahabi-Takfrir card in the same manner although Iran is as sectarian as Saudi Arabia. This is the funny thing about. It´s quite comfortable for them to use it as it´s a dead end argument. They are playing also with sentiments and political slogans like “foreign Intervention”. The strange thing is that only western “intervention” is somehow considered as foreign Intervention. Russian and iranian Intervention is somehow fair game. But Iran is even for “classical” american intervention when it´s in Iran´s favor like in Iraq. The same with foreign fighters in Syria. You have shia jihadist from Afghanistan and Pakistan and they are not referred to as foreign interventionist. In fact they are not even discussed in Al Akhbar english.

  • callmeback

    Hezbollah and the “resistance” learned a lot from the Zionist Hazbara´s. For example. As the Zionist use the Anti-semite card to silence critic against the zionist entity hezbollah is using sectarianism or the Wahabi-Takfrir card in the same manner although Iran is as sectarian as Saudi Arabia. This is the funny thing about. It´s quite comfortable for them to use it as it´s a dead end argument. They are playing also with sentiments and political slogans like “foreign Intervention”. The strange thing is that only western “intervention” is somehow considered as foreign Intervention. Russian and iranian Intervention is somehow fair game. But Iran is even for “classical” american intervention when it´s in Iran´s favor like in Iraq. The same with foreign fighters in Syria. You have shia jihadist from Afghanistan and Pakistan and they are not referred to as foreign interventionist. In fact they are not even discussed in Al Akhbar english.

  • callmeback

    Here is your fucking Resistance. And maliki cousin just died in Syria fighting for “great Persia”. Maliki himself rode on american tanks to power with the approval and help from iran. Former Vice President Mohammad Ali Abtahi referenced American-Iranian cooperation in a speech he made in 2004: “Were it not for Iran, Baghdad and Kabul would not have fallen.” – They insisted on Democracy and the De-Baathification of Iraq while they are refusing the same in Syria.

  • johngilbert

    Technically, in any other country resistance is not necessary to mention if army is already mentioned. It should be more like the people, the army and the land. If you have an army why do you need a resistance unless it is a useless impotent army? If you didn’t have an army you would need a resistance. Adding resistance only reinforces that you have two different armed forces that are different (not united) from each other. It is army redundant to mention both army and resistance together since it’s one or the other. Occupied country: the people, the resistance and the land, Unoccupied sovereign country: the people, the army and the land.

    • man-o-war

      The Lebanese army is neutered and not allowed to arm itself with any modern weapons, even for defensive purposes. As a legitimate military they are forced to abide by these restrictions that have been imposed by the west at Israel’s request.

      If they went to Russia or China for weapons there would be consequences. However, a “resistance” or a non-state sponsored militia doesn’t have to abide by the same rules and regulations. One of the main reasons why the west and Israel hate HA, they can’t control the arms they have. Leaving Israel vulnerable and always having to think twice before acting against Lebanon.

      • Guest

        Does the same apply to other countries in the Middle East including Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc?

        • man-o-war

          Egypt and Jordan have a peace treaty with Israel. Saudia Arabia just recently got an arms package approved, only because they are seen as hostile to Iran. Anyway, any of the weapons these countries receive also have to be approved by Israel first. No matter what, they have to be sure they maintain a military edge. Even the jets sold to the Saudis are being downgraded compared to the Jets Israel receives.

          Syria receives its weapons mostly from Russia and China. Even then Israel blocked the delivery of S-300 that Russia was bringing.

          Iran is feared right now because they are making their own weapons and possibly working on a nuclear bomb. The last and ultimate deterrent Israel has is being challenged.

        • man-o-war

          Egypt and Jordan have a peace treaty with Israel. Saudia Arabia just recently got an arms package approved, only because they are seen as hostile to Iran. Anyway, any of the weapons these countries receive also have to be approved by Israel first. No matter what, they have to be sure they maintain a military edge. Even the jets sold to the Saudis are being downgraded compared to the Jets Israel receives.

          Syria receives its weapons mostly from Russia and China. Even then Israel blocked the delivery of S-300 that Russia was bringing.

          Iran is feared right now because they are making their own weapons and possibly working on a nuclear bomb. The last and ultimate deterrent Israel has is being challenged.

      • MekensehParty

        that’s not true at all
        don’t throw in things in the conversation without making sure of what you’re saying
        the Lebanese army, when there is one, because today it’s overshadowed by Hezbollah, can buy any kind of weapon it wants just like any other army in the world.

        • Guest

          You are right. They are being encouraged to buy sophisticated weapons from France as a counter to Hezbollah’s weapons which Hezbollah does not want to share with the Lebanese army.

          • man-o-war

            Funny, we all know that any weapons sales to Lebanon have to be approved by Israel first. It’s not much of a secret.

          • man-o-war

            Funny, we all know that any weapons sales to Lebanon have to be approved by Israel first. It’s not much of a secret.

        • man-o-war

          “the Lebanese army, when there is one, because today it’s overshadowed by Hezbollah, can buy any kind of weapon it wants just like any other army in the world.” are you sure about that?

          • MekensehParty

            Lebanon signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and the chemical weapon convention the army has the right to buy anything it wants.

          • man-o-war

            Not true and you know that.

          • MekensehParty

            You’re not differentiating between weapons on the market and weapons off the market. Every seller can demand assurances that the weapons delivered will not be used against the seller’s own interest. That’s business 101 before being military strategies 101. This is not a monopoly game where everyone starts with $200 dollars and a pair of dice. This is war and when you’re at war it’s kill or be killed. You happen to be the losers. Grab peace enjoy your lives stop throwing stones.

        • man-o-war

          http://www.meforum.Org/1824/augmenting-israels-qualitative-military-edge

          “Concern within the Lebanese government over military procurement was heightened after what it said were efforts by Israel to block or hamper future defense equipment purchases in the United States and France.

          “The Lebanese government is also concerned about reports by the Central News Agency that the French Senate’s French-Lebanese friendship committee claims there is a delay sending arms and equipment to the Lebanese army.Delayed equipment includes helicopters with air-to-surface missiles, an agreement ratified in January by Prime Minister Saad Hariri and his French counterpart Francois Fillon.

          http://www.upi.Com

          • MekensehParty

            and…?
            Do you expect the Israelis will let you have advanced weapons when you’re at war with them?
            Seriously?
            Make peace with Israel and get whatever you want like the Saudis, Jordanians, Egyptians…

          • man-o-war

            So you concede? You claimed what I posted was not true and that Lebanon can buy any weapons it wants just like any other country in the world.

            So now its about the peace treaty, okay. Maybe you should have led with that.
            It’s funny that you think the Saudis, Egyptians, and Jordanians get whatever they want. Peace treaty or not, Israel will never allow these countries to get weapons that could be considered “game changing” or “equalizers”

            Did you read the article? The weapons systems are always downgraded before delivery. Even the twenty billion dollar Saudi care package.

          • MekensehParty

            Why do you need game-changing weapons if there is no game?
            When you are at war, your enemy is not going to let you have weapons that will allow you to win on him, that’s simple logic not conspiracy! They will use their influence and friends and sometime force to deny you these weapons. But when at peace your enemy is no longer your enemy and the weapons you’re buying are no longer meant to be used on him so yes, advanced weaponry will be sold to you if you need it.
            I repeat, when this Lebanese Army becomes a respectable army and not half sold to a terrorist organization it can and will receive weapon of choice. They’re not going to sell it B2s because little Lebanon does not need B2s to keep the country safe. Heck they don’t sell France B2s!!! Don’t ask for the moon and remember your size and they will provide you with the weapons you need to keep the country safe. And if someone as big as Russia invades your country they will kick their ass just like little putin’s.

          • man-o-war

            So you concede? You claimed what I posted was not true and that Lebanon can buy any weapons it wants just like any other country in the world.

            So now its about the peace treaty, okay. Maybe you should have led with that.
            It’s funny that you think the Saudis, Egyptians, and Jordanians get whatever they want. Peace treaty or not, Israel will never allow these countries to get weapons that could be considered “game changing” or “equalizers”

            Did you read the article? The weapons systems are always downgraded before delivery. Even the twenty billion dollar Saudi care package.

    • man-o-war

      The Lebanese army is neutered and not allowed to arm itself with any modern weapons, even for defensive purposes. As a legitimate military they are forced to abide by these restrictions that have been imposed by the west at Israel’s request.

      If they went to Russia or China for weapons there would be consequences. However, a “resistance” or a non-state sponsored militia doesn’t have to abide by the same rules and regulations. One of the main reasons why the west and Israel hate HA, they can’t control the arms they have. Leaving Israel vulnerable and always having to think twice before acting against Lebanon.

      • MekensehParty

        that’s not true at all
        don’t throw in things in the conversation without making sure of what you’re saying
        the Lebanese army, when there is one, because today it’s overshadowed by Hezbollah, can buy any kind of weapon it wants just like any other army in the world.

        • man-o-war

          “the Lebanese army, when there is one, because today it’s overshadowed by Hezbollah, can buy any kind of weapon it wants just like any other army in the world.” are you sure about that?

    • Guest

      The Iranians act like they liberated Iraq from Saddam Hussein when it was the U.S. that did it. It was one of the stupidest things that the U.S. ever did because the Iranians suddenly felt emboldened and invincible without Saddam in Iraq. Also, Israel by bombing Osirak reactor in Iraq in 1982 during the Iraq-Iran War helped Iran survive this war. Otherwise Saddam Hussein would have had the advantage of a nuclear Iraq to win the war. Again, Iran thinks it did it on its own and acts like it is the most almighty nation on the face of the earth.

  • Ali abdallah

    The “Resistance” is BS.

    In Lebanon anyone calling themselves a “resistance” is a criminal who has killed Arabs, and behaves like a mafia who wants to be above any law.

  • Ali abdallah

    The “Resistance” is BS.

    In Lebanon anyone calling themselves a “resistance” is a criminal who has killed Arabs, and behaves like a mafia who wants to be above any law.