U.S. ties with GCC at risk after Russia’s Syria initiative

GCC countriesThe United States risks damaging relations with Persian Gulf states as it warily embraces a Russian initiative for Syria to relinquish its chemical arsenal, analysts say, with Sunni monarchies fearful that the U.S. pullback from military strikes will bolster President Bashar al-Assad and the influence in the region of his ally Iran.

Disappointment at the decision could further cool relations with gulf countries already frustrated by a lack of U.S. leadership on Syria during the 21 / 2-year-long conflict there. Increasingly sharp statements from the normally imperturbable gulf nations reflect the growing sense of unease.

Saudi Arabia, which is spearheading military support for the Syrian rebels, hadpublicly backed the idea of U.S. strikes, and the rebels themselves had said they hoped to capitalize on any action — however narrowly targeted — to gain ground against government forces.

For gulf states including Saudi Arabia, a longtime U.S. ally, the fight to oust Assad plays into a wider regional struggle against the influence of Shiite Iran. And many in the region fear that capitulating to Russia’s plan may do the opposite, bolstering Assad and his allies. Kuwait and Qatar are among those that have signed a White House-sponsored statement condemning Syria for the alleged chemical weapons attack Aug. 21 and calling for a robust international response.

“The gulf feels misled,” said Mustafa Alani, a Geneva-based security analyst with the Gulf Research Center, referring to the U.S. shift. “Certainly, there’s a fear that this means Iran will be much stronger. Strategically speaking, the Iranian position is going to be enhanced in the region.”

One of the main worries for the Gulf Cooperation Council, he added, is “that Syria and its allies have gained the upper hand.”

At a summit of the council’s six member countries in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, on Tuesday night, Bahraini Foreign Minister Khalid bin Ahmad al-Khalifa called for “deterrent measures” against Syria, telling reporters that the Russian proposal is “all about chemical weapons but does not stop the bloodshed.”

The statement issued at the summit “expressed deep disappointment and could be taken as an indirect criticism of the U.S.,” Alani said.

The cooling comes as the United States finds its other traditional alliances in the region weakened in the wake of the Arab Spring. The gulf countries, long mistrustful of the Muslim Brotherhood, have backed Egypt’s new interim government, while the United States has greeted it with caution.

Although analysts see little likelihood that economic and defense ties between Washington and its allies in the region will change significantly, some say gulf states, including Saudi Arabia, might attempt to diversify their strategic relationships and strengthen regional ties in an effort to counter Iran.

“This de-escalation has proved that the priorities for these states and the U.S. are different,” said Ayham Kamel, an analyst with the New York-based Eurasia Group. “Privately, it will reinforce existing tensions between the gulf and the U.S. regarding their partnerships and what they entail — there will be questions over the U.S. ability to help counter Iran, protect the structure of these regimes and provide broader security.”

The Gulf Cooperation Council’s skeptical position on the Russian plan contrasts with that of the wider 22-member Arab League, which has voiced support for it. The proposal has also won initial backing from Europe, but Turkey, a staunch supporter of the Syrian opposition, has said it would amount to a “green light” for more massacres, according tocomments by Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu published in the local media Wednesday.

Washington Post

  • The stage is being set for the 10 nation confederacy and its leader called the anti-Christ, who will attack Israel, and persecute and kill Christians……..

    ……….Revelation 17:12-14………. 12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast……….

    • Guest

      Take ur pills regularly pls

    • Hannibal

      Prophesying about the one minded Islamic Nazism… The followers of the beast, 666, satan himself… Saint Michael will slay him with one blink from Jesus…
      Under the feet of St. Michael, goat-like creatures resembling the faces of Islamic fuzzy-face (as7aab el lou7a) Nazis…

      • jaballubnan

        Ija Hannibal Ba3doolu!~

  • CrossWinds

    The stage is being set for the 10 nation confederacy and its leader called the anti-Christ, who will attack Israel, and persecute and kill Christians……..

    ……….Revelation 17:12-14………. 12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast……….

    • Guest

      Take ur pills regularly pls

    • Hannibal

      Prophesying about the one minded Islamic Nazism… The followers of the beast, 666, satan himself… Saint Michael will slay him with one blink from Jesus…

      • jaballubnan

        Ija Hannibal Ba3doolu!~

  • 5thDrawer

    The money ‘promised’ by the wonderful ‘Gulf States’ for refugee relief funds TO the UN hasn’t arrived either – why should anyone worry about how they feel ??

    • dateam

      In the world of politics there is no room for sentiment or feeling…look around you..the arab world is a mess…some dictators have gone and replaced by fundamentalists….The arab armies are all fighting internally now….yet who funds the people they fight against? Meantime the circus rolls on and the military establishments sit back and count the money….people come last. No money for the refugees but enough guns and bullets for everyone.

  • 5thDrawer

    The money ‘promised’ by the wonderful ‘Gulf States’ for refugee relief funds TO the UN hasn’t arrived either – why should anyone worry about how they feel ??

    • dateam

      In the world of politics there is no room for sentiment or feeling…look around you..the arab world is a mess…some dictators have gone and replaced by fundamentalists….The arab armies are all fighting internally now….yet who funds the people they fight against? Meantime the circus rolls on and the military establishments sit back and count the money….people come last. No money for the refugees but enough guns and bullets for everyone.

  • MekensehParty

    They need to criticize the US in every one of their statement; that no longer hurts US diplomat’s feelings.
    We know they have to put a face and say these words to keep their popularity.
    In fact, there was never a time where they needed the Americans more.
    That said the Saudis remain the clear victors of the Arab Spring, I don’t think they’re really pissed at the US who is playing along willingly or unwillingly.
    Quick facts:
    Tunisia an ally is lost.
    Mubarak ally also falls.
    Libya enemy falls and ghaddafi gets killed
    Syria falls into a civil war where Assad-enemy will eventually fall
    Hamas is neutralized funded by Qatar instead of Iran
    Hezbollah enemy enters the Syrian conflict
    Fall of the Muslim Brotherhood-enemy
    Fall of the Qatar Emir – not enemy, worse, the thorn in the back
    Realignement of Qatar with the GCC
    Erdogan takes a PR hit with the total failure of his support to the MB is Syria and Egypt
    Egypt is retaken by the Army
    A pro-Saudi leads the Syrian opposition
    Tunisia’s MB is shaken by peaceful protests
    Nouri al maliki under pressure internally
    Sunnis in Iraq retaking the offense
    Hamas soon to be bankrupt
    New Iranian president – a moderate who’s showing signs.
    All of this with the timid “ok” of the USA and its much stronger protection
    Now if you want to portray all this as a victory for Iran-Syria-Hezbollah, we’re used to “divine” victories with very different sorts of real victories on the ground.

    • dateam

      Add to that since the “arab spring” how now all the arab armies are tied up internally???

      • MekensehParty

        What do you mean?

        • 5thDrawer

          He means none of them understand ‘secular democracy’ and the need for it.

      • dateam

        Look around…all the arab armies are fighting internally…egypt against mb bordering on civil war after overthrowing them…tunisia after islamists came into power now islamists are attacking the army…the islamist dominated government is shaky after the secularists started protesting and at the same time you have islamists fighting the army? Libya …they attacked the foreign ministry the other day….iraq a mess army occupied against terrorism…lebanon same….and obviously syria….even turkey experiencing protests again…yemen as well….saudia arabia against mb…qatar supports mb…..erdogan supports mb but wants democracy…..so who is for who and who is funding who? yet they all speak of sectarianism? I wont even start with the palestinians.

    • jaballubnan

      You wrote all of that ! wow

  • MekensehParty

    They need to criticize the US in every one of their statement; that no longer hurts US diplomat’s feelings.
    We know they have to put a face and say these words to keep their popularity.
    In fact, there was never a time where they needed the Americans more.
    That said the Saudis remain the clear victors of the Arab Spring, I don’t think they’re really pissed at the US who is playing along willingly or unwillingly.
    Quick facts:
    Tunisia an ally is lost.
    Mubarak ally also falls.
    Libya enemy falls and ghaddafi gets killed
    Syria falls into a civil war where Assad-enemy will eventually fall
    Hamas is neutralized funded by Qatar instead of Iran
    Hezbollah enemy enters the Syrian conflict
    Fall of the Muslim Brotherhood-enemy
    Fall of the Qatar Emir – not enemy, worse, the thorn in the back
    Realignement of Qatar with the GCC
    Erdogan takes a PR hit with the total failure of his support to the MB is Syria and Egypt
    Egypt is retaken by the Army
    A pro-Saudi leads the Syrian opposition
    Tunisia’s MB is shaken by peaceful protests
    Nouri al maliki under pressure internally
    Sunnis in Iraq retaking the offense
    Hamas soon to be bankrupt
    New Iranian president – a moderate who’s showing signs.
    All of this with the timid “ok” of the USA and its much stronger protection
    Now if you want to portray all this as a victory for Iran-Syria-Hezbollah, we’re used to “divine” victories with very different sorts of real victories on the ground.

    • dateam

      Add to that since the “arab spring” how now all the arab armies are tied up internally???

      • MekensehParty

        What do you mean?

        • 5thDrawer

          He means none of them understand ‘secular democracy’ and the need for it.

      • dateam

        Look around…all the arab armies are fighting internally…egypt against mb bordering on civil war after overthrowing them…tunisia after islamists came into power now islamists are attacking the army…the islamist dominated government is shaky after the secularists started protesting and at the same time you have islamists fighting the army? Libya …they attacked the foreign ministry the other day….iraq a mess army occupied against terrorism…lebanon same….and obviously syria….even turkey experiencing protests again…yemen as well….saudia arabia against mb…qatar supports mb…..erdogan supports mb but wants democracy…..so who is for who and who is funding who? yet they all speak of sectarianism? I wont even start with the palestinians.

    • jaballubnan

      You wrote all of that ! wow

  • Reasonableman

    What a load of RUBBISH instead of setting the example and pushing for arab diplomacy and unity, you shake hands with the devil.(to do the dirty work) When the devil don’t give you what you want (didnt want to struggle and work hard for) you say “you feel played” and all the devil will say is “i am free from you, i didn’t make you do anything by force.”
    Instead of worrying about joining the 2016 olympics think about joining the battle that you *seek* to win and have poured petrol all over.
    Nobody can love a kid more than a mother and nobody can want arab unity more than an arab. Not the US not the UN and certainly not RUSSIA.

    • Hannibal

      Does your Arab unity include ALL Arabs? or the select Sunni Islamist Nazis?

      • Reasonableman

        What part of arab dont you understand?

        • master09

          The lot

  • Reasonableman

    What a load of RUBBISH instead of setting the example and pushing for arab diplomacy and unity, you shake hands with the devil.(to do the dirty work) When the devil don’t give you what you want (didnt want to struggle and work hard for) you say “you feel played” and all the devil will say is “i am free from you, i didn’t make you do anything by force.”
    Instead of worrying about joining the 2016 olympics think about joining the battle that you *seek* to win and have poured petrol all over.
    Nobody can love a kid more than a mother and nobody can want arab unity more than an arab. Not the US not the UN and certainly not RUSSIA.

    • Hannibal

      Does your Arab unity include ALL Arabs? or the select Sunni Islamist Nazis?

      • Reasonableman

        What part of arab dont you understand?

        • master09

          The lot

  • Btru2u

    The Reality on the ground is that in the Middle east and beyond, there is an IDEALOGICAL STRUGGLE,
    A STRUGGLE between KUFR and ISLAM. The fact is that democracy is KUFR . The Kufaar know that divided muslim are easy to control, and they continue to suck us in. READ
    “You are the best nation ever raised up from mankind; you enjoin the good and forbid evil, and you believe in Allah.” (EMQ 3:110). M

    I’m a Muslim and I want to change the world. I want to unite all Muslim countries and make one super Muslim state of Khilafah as prophet Muhammad wanted us to be. If you are also a Muslim and want the same this poem might help you on the way as it helps me inshallah.

    “When I was a young man, I wanted to change the world.

    I found it was difficult to change the world, so I tried to change my nation.

    When I found I couldn’t change the nation, I began to focus on my town.

    I couldn’t change the town, so I tried to change my family.

    Now, as an old man, I know the only thing I can change is myself.

    And suddenly I realize that if long ago I had changed myself, I could have made an impact on my family.

    My family and I could have made an impact on our town.

    Their impact could have changed the nation and I could indeed have changed the world.

    • master09

      Well you should get yourself a sword by the sounds of YOUR UNITING MUSLIMS. How about wanting to unite people to live in peace and love and forgiveness not to rule over people and that’s what Mahmoud did and wants you to do…Jesus always looked at LOVE, PEACE HARMONY AND TO LIVE WITH YOUR NEIGHBOUR, HELP YOUR FRIEND, BE IT A THEIF OR A SAINT….
      How about giving charity to humanity and that means muslim, Christians and who ever they might be…It is funny that you are not able as A Christian to take an orphan 3 year old muslim and adopt them unless you are muslim..WOW they would rather see him/her dead than feed and looked after from harm….GO GO AND UNITE YOUR ISLAM WITH YOUR SWORD….

      • Btru2u

        Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. (19) So if they argue with you, say, “I have submitted myself to Allah [in Islam], and [so have] those who follow me.” And say to those who were given the Scripture and [to] the unlearned, “Have you submitted yourselves?” And if they submit [in Islam], they are rightly guided; but if they turn away – then upon you is only the [duty of] notification. And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants. (20) Those who disbelieve in the signs of Allah and kill the prophets without right and kill those who order justice from among the people – give them tidings of a painful punishment. (21) They are the ones whose deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and for them there will be no helpers. (22) – Al-i-Imran – Qur’an

        • master09

          What because your book says so that makes it rite. The book is a copy,was written by Christians forced my the man with the sword words changed to suite the like. Prove otherwise.

          • Guest

            In reality the onus is on you 09

          • master09

            How can it be just on me. Burden is on everyone as you prove the Facts not just from a book. Tell me why is your book rite and mine not. You as a child has been made to believe and that is ok but that does not make it the only rite thing. So the anus lol is on all.

          • Reasonableman

            And if they submit [in Islam], they are rightly guided; but if they turn away – then upon you is only the [duty of] notification.
             
            I really don’t see any force infact only free speech and freedom of choice in practise and warning that being unjust will bring punishment from allah.(could mean in this world or hereafter) our reason tells us be good you will be treated good be bad and you will be treated bad and even the law says do the crime do the time, you reap what you sow , everything that happens to you, you have created with your own hands. Want me to keep going lol?
            Islam does not say force or kill christians lets stay within reason infact it says to all those who disagree with its teaching. Lakum dinakum waliya deen (surat kafirun) you go your way we go ours. Infact it is forbidden to hold you back from worshipping in the church.
            Infact mohommed peace be upon him is honoured in the western system he is known in america as among the prophets in the american supreme court..
            Now prove why would he peace be upon him need to force anybody to practise when he couldve just killed those who disagreed with him? Why do you claim as such we can learn to respect eachothers opinions if you within reason want to respect the man that respected your freedom of religion.

          • master09

            I would not want you to say one bad word about your mother father or brother. You missed the big point and I do not think you wl ever get it.

          • Hannibal

            NOPE he won’t as his head is wrapped with a towel made of Islam orthodoxy! A towel head indeed!

          • Reasonableman

            I guess we can see who is wronging who here i appreciate your feedback.

          • Btru2u

            Allah has made it clear , the hate they harbour in their hearts for Islam.
            Compromising with such people is not an option.

          • master09

            But you both reasonable man and you head in the sand have not answer my ????. I do not have hate for the people I have hate for the ACTIONS. BIG diff boys. It is Islam who wants people to be Muslims so tell me if that is hate or not.

          • 5thDrawer

            And how anyone could hate a fine Scotch is beyond me …..

          • master09

            What if we come up with halal 12 year old will that do.

          • 5thDrawer

            Yes master09 … although … I know I hadn’t mentioned, I recently had a happy moment to nose AND imbibe some 30-Year ‘Highland Park’ … and if you’re going to bless anything you need to get past the level of some of the food and medicine they may have been serving in Tripoli lately, Halal or not.. 😉

          • Hannibal

            Philip said to Him, Lord, show us the Father; then we shall be satisfied. Jesus replied, Have I been with all of you for so long a time, and do you not recognize and know Me yet, Philip? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say then, Show us the Father? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in Me? What I am telling you I do not say on My own authority and of My own accord; but the Father Who lives continually in Me does the (His) works (His own miracles, deeds of power). John 14:8-10

      • Btru2u

        But they who believe in Allah and His messengers and do not discriminate between any of them – to those He is going to give their rewards. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. (152) The People of the Scripture ask you to bring down to them a book from the heaven. But they had asked of Moses [even] greater than that and said, “Show us Allah outright,” so the thunderbolt struck them for their wrongdoing. Then they took the calf [for worship] after clear evidences had come to them, and We pardoned that. And We gave Moses a clear authority. (153) And We raised over them the mount for [refusal of] their covenant; and We said to them, “Enter the gate bowing humbly”, and We said to them, “Do not transgress on the sabbath”, and We took from them a solemn covenant. (154) And [We cursed them] for their breaking of the covenant and their disbelief in the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, “Our hearts are wrapped”. Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few. (155) And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander, (156) And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. (157) Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. (158) And there is none from the People of the Scripture but that he will surely believe in Jesus before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be against them a witness. (159) – An-Nisa – Qur’an

      • Hannibal

        Well said! They will never win… not today, not tomorrow, not EVER! Destruction is their fate… St. Michael watches over the just.

        • master09

          Jesus is the ONLY way.

          • 5thDrawer

            But He wouldn’t have worn sandals in a winter snow-storm either.

    • Hannibal

      EMQ 3:110 is a photocopy of Judaism’s chosen people… Another form of Nazism… A world with one color is boring… God IS NOT A TYRANT! Mohammed IS.

  • Btru2u

    The Reality on the ground is that in the Middle east and beyond, there is an IDEALOGICAL STRUGGLE,
    A STRUGGLE between KUFR and ISLAM. The fact is that democracy is KUFR . The Kufaar know that divided muslim are easy to control, and they continue to suck us in. READ
    “You are the best nation ever raised up from mankind; you enjoin the good and forbid evil, and you believe in Allah.” (EMQ 3:110). M

    I’m a Muslim and I want to change the world. I want to unite all Muslim countries and make one super Muslim state of Khilafah as prophet Muhammad wanted us to be. If you are also a Muslim and want the same this poem might help you on the way as it helps me inshallah.

    “When I was a young man, I wanted to change the world.

    I found it was difficult to change the world, so I tried to change my nation.

    When I found I couldn’t change the nation, I began to focus on my town.

    I couldn’t change the town, so I tried to change my family.

    Now, as an old man, I know the only thing I can change is myself.

    And suddenly I realize that if long ago I had changed myself, I could have made an impact on my family.

    My family and I could have made an impact on our town.

    Their impact could have changed the nation and I could indeed have changed the world.

    • master09

      Well you should get yourself a sword by the sounds of YOUR UNITING MUSLIMS. How about wanting to unite people to live in peace and love and forgiveness not to rule over people and that’s what Mahmoud did and wants you to do…Jesus always looked at LOVE, PEACE HARMONY AND TO LIVE WITH YOUR NEIGHBOUR, HELP YOUR FRIEND, BE IT A THEIF OR A SAINT….
      How about giving charity to humanity and that means muslim, Christians and who ever they might be…It is funny that you are not able as A Christian to take an orphan 3 year old and adopt them unless you are muslim..WOW they would rather see him/her dead than feed and looked after from harm….GO GO AND UNITE YOUR ISLAM WITH YOUR SWORD….

      • Btru2u

        Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. (19) So if they argue with you, say, “I have submitted myself to Allah [in Islam], and [so have] those who follow me.” And say to those who were given the Scripture and [to] the unlearned, “Have you submitted yourselves?” And if they submit [in Islam], they are rightly guided; but if they turn away – then upon you is only the [duty of] notification. And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants. (20) Those who disbelieve in the signs of Allah and kill the prophets without right and kill those who order justice from among the people – give them tidings of a painful punishment. (21) They are the ones whose deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and for them there will be no helpers. (22) – Al-i-Imran – Qur’an

        • master09

          What because your book says so that makes it rite. The book is a copy,was written by Christians forced my the man with the sword words changed to suite the like. Prove otherwise.

          • Reasonableman

            In reality the onus is on you 09

          • master09

            How can it be just on me. Burden is on everyone as you prove the Facts not just from a book. Tell me why is your book rite and mine not. You as a child has been made to believe and that is ok but that does not make it the only rite thing. So the anus lol is on all.

          • Reasonableman

            And if they submit [in Islam], they are rightly guided; but if they turn away – then upon you is only the [duty of] notification.
             
            I really don’t see any force infact only free speech and freedom of choice in practise and warning that being unjust will bring punishment from allah.(could mean in this world or hereafter) our reason tells us be good you will be treated good be bad and you will be treated bad and even the law says do the crime do the time, you reap what you sow , everything that happens to you, you have created with your own hands. Want me to keep going lol?
            Islam does not say force or kill christians lets stay within reason infact it says to all those who disagree with its teaching. Lakum dinakum waliya deen (surat kafirun) you go your way we go ours. Infact it is forbidden to hold you back from worshipping in the church.
            Infact mohommed peace be upon him is honoured in the western system he is known in america as the founder of law.
            Now prove why would he peace be upon him need to force anybody to practise when he couldve just killed those who disagreed with him? Why do you claim as such we can learn to respect eachothers opinions if you within reason want to respect the man that respected your religion.

          • master09

            I would not want you to say one bad word about your mother father or brother. You missed the big point and I do not think you wl ever get it.

          • Hannibal

            NOPE he won’t as his head is wrapped with a towel made of Islam orthodoxy! A towel head indeed!

          • Reasonableman

            I guess we can see who is wronging who here i appreciate your feedback.

          • Btru2u

            Allah has made it clear , the hate they harbour in their hearts for Islam.
            Compromising with such people is not an option.

          • master09

            But you both reasonable man and you head in the sand have not answer my ????. I do not have hate for the people I have hate for the ACTIONS. BIG diff boys. It is Islam who wants people to be Muslims so tell me if that is hate or not.

          • 5thDrawer

            And how anyone could hate a fine Scotch is beyond me …..

          • master09

            What if we come up with halal 12 year old will that do.

          • 5thDrawer

            Yes master09 … although … I know I hadn’t mentioned, I recently had a happy moment to nose AND imbibe some 30-Year ‘Highland Park’ … and if you’re going to bless anything you need to get past the level of some of the food and medicine they may have been serving in Tripoli lately, Halal or not.. 😉

          • Hannibal

            Philip said to Him, Lord, show us the Father; then we shall be satisfied. Jesus replied, Have I been with all of you for so long a time, and do you not recognize and know Me yet, Philip? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say then, Show us the Father? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in Me? What I am telling you I do not say on My own authority and of My own accord; but the Father Who lives continually in Me does the (His) works (His own miracles, deeds of power). John 14:8-10

      • Btru2u

        But they who believe in Allah and His messengers and do not discriminate between any of them – to those He is going to give their rewards. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. (152) The People of the Scripture ask you to bring down to them a book from the heaven. But they had asked of Moses [even] greater than that and said, “Show us Allah outright,” so the thunderbolt struck them for their wrongdoing. Then they took the calf [for worship] after clear evidences had come to them, and We pardoned that. And We gave Moses a clear authority. (153) And We raised over them the mount for [refusal of] their covenant; and We said to them, “Enter the gate bowing humbly”, and We said to them, “Do not transgress on the sabbath”, and We took from them a solemn covenant. (154) And [We cursed them] for their breaking of the covenant and their disbelief in the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, “Our hearts are wrapped”. Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few. (155) And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander, (156) And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. (157) Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. (158) And there is none from the People of the Scripture but that he will surely believe in Jesus before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be against them a witness. (159) – An-Nisa – Qur’an

      • Hannibal

        Well said! They will never win… not today, not tomorrow, not EVER! Destruction is their fate… St. Michael watches over the just.

        • master09

          Jesus is the ONLY way.

          • 5thDrawer

            But He wouldn’t have worn sandals in a winter snow-storm either.

    • Hannibal

      EMQ 3:110 is a photocopy of Judaism’s chosen people… Another form of Nazism… A world with one color is boring… God IS NOT A TYRANT! Mohammed IS.