Hezbollah’s death toll 28, largest in a single Syrian battle

hezbollah funeralBEIRUT, Lebanon — Fighting raged for the second day on Monday in the strategic Syrian city of Qusayr, as government forces, backed by Shiite fighters from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, unleashed new airstrikes and rebels fought back fiercely in parts of the city, Syrian opposition activists said.

The toll of dead and wounded continued to rise for Hezbollah, which is fighting its biggest battle yet on the side of President Bashar al-Assad. Both sides have depicted the fighting in Qusayr as a turning point in the war that is raising regional tensions as Hezbollah plunges more deeply into the conflict.

Funerals for Hezbollah fighters were being planned in the group’s strongholds in the Bekaa Valley and southern Lebanon, relatives of the dead said. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an opposition watchdog group, reported that at least 28 Hezbollah guerrillas had died in the fighting. If confirmed, that would be by far the largest toll for Hezbollah in a single Syrian battle.

After heavy fighting throughout Sunday, in which regime forces appeared to be gaining ground, Syrian state media and pro-opposition sources gave widely divergent versions on Monday of the battles which raged in the city and left scores of fighters dead.

Jad, an activist from Qusayr who declined to be identified by his full name, reached through Skype, said that rebels killed 30 members of Hezbollah and regime forces on Monday at dawn in an ambush when the government soldiers were trying to retrieve the bodies of the group’s commanders. A video posted online, which could not be independently verified, showed an activist pointing to seven damaged vehicles apparently belonging to Hezbollah and listed the losses inflicted on the group.

In the video, fighters then seize the arm of a dead man on the floor and point out a tattoo of Imam Ali, the cousin and son-in-law of prophet Muhammad, a religious figure revered by Shiites. This, the fighters said, proved the body was that of a Hezbollah fighter.

On Monday, SANA, the Syrian official state news agency, reported that army units “restored stability and security to the full eastern area” of Qusayr, killing large numbers of “terrorists and destroying their hideouts”. It published four photographs of a battered vehicle that it said was found in Qusayr, and quoted a “media source” as claiming the vehicle belonged to Israeli forces and was used by “terrorists” in the city, proving “the scale of Israel’s military and intelligence involvement.”

On Sunday, Syrian government troops backed by Hezbollah fighters pushed into parts of Qusayr, hammering the city with airstrikes and artillery, killing at least 52 people and wounding hundreds as civilians cowered, unable to flee, activists said. By the end of the day on Sunday, about 60 percent of the city, which is in Homs Province, was under the army’s control for the first time in months, one activist said.

Mr. Assad, according to people who have spoken with him, believes that reasserting his hold in the province is crucial to maintaining control of a string of population centers in western Syria, and eventually to military campaigns to retake rebel-held territory in the north and east. Many analysts say that it is unlikely that the government will be able to regain control of those areas, but that it could consolidate its grip on the west, leading to a de facto division of the country.

Echoes of the battle in Qusayr have rippled across neighboring Lebanon, which is deeply divided between supporters and opponents of Mr. Assad. In the northern city of Tripoli, from which many Sunni Muslim militants have joined the Syrian rebels, residents held a candlelight vigil late Sunday in support of Qusayr’s rebels. In Shiite areas, residents worried about relatives fighting in Syria and prayed for victory in a battle Hezbollah has framed as a proxy fight against its main foe, Israel, and an intervention to defend Shiites in Syria, of both Lebanese and Syrian descent, and other minorities they say are threatened by the uprising led by Syria’s Sunni majority.

Recapturing the strategic rebel-held town, located in the province of Homs, has been a long-held goal of the Syrian regime as Qusayr constitutes a major supply conduit regularly used by rebels to smuggle weapons from Lebanon into the province of Homs.

The Joint Command of the Free Syrian Army, the loose-knit United States-backed rebel umbrella group, has said that hospitals in Baalbek and the Hezbollah-controlled southern suburbs of Beirut had accepted many Hezbollah wounded. It issued a rallying cry that supporters of Hezbollah were bound to see as inflammatory, calling the group “impure,” in a phrase that could resonate as a sectarian slur against Shiites.

It congratulated rebels holding out in Qusayr, calling them “brave heroes whose victories will be highlighted by history in letters made of light as they have defended their land and their honor from the impurity of the criminal terrorist members of Hezbollah.” It also taunted Hezbollah’s leadership, saying, “We know very well how their gang is constructed and we know how to take it apart and we will take it apart. We see heads that are ripe for the picking.”

In a dig at Lebanese families sending Hezbollah fighters to the battle, the Free Syrian Army said, “We can now say that every single family or neighborhood in Baalbek or Hermel has a dead family member among their sons who fought in Qusayr.”

One relative of a slain Hezbollah fighter spoke in equally strong terms about the battle, saying in an interview that it was as crucial for the party as the struggle against Israel.

According to activists, Hezbollah fighters on Sunday swept into villages that had been controlled by rebels but met with fierce resistance there. State media and opposition activists reported that regime forces, backed by Hezbollah, managed to recaptured more than half of Qusayr including the municipality building.

“Battles are still raging between the jihadists and Hezbollah,” said Malek Ammar, an anti-regime activist in Qusayr, referring to the fighting on Monday. “All their attempts yesterday to advance from several fronts failed. For two days now, they’ve been trying to advance deeper into the town but, praise be to God, a large number of their fighters were killed and 16 vehicles were destroyed. Their plan has failed. Now there’s a new plan”.

Mr. Ammar added that rebels found out, through an informant, that Hezbollah fighters have decided to shift tactics and infiltrate the outskirts of the city through small alleyways in order to turn the battle into a more traditional guerrilla war which they have been trained for. Regime forces have been besieging the town from all sides to prevent supplies from reaching rebels, according to activists in Qusayr.

Tarek, another activist in Qusayr reached through Skype, said he was filming events unfolding in the city from a centrally located building, and that regime forces have been pounding Qusayr relentlessly since Sunday.

NY Times

  • Beiruti

    Someone give them a map fast! I think they forgot where the Galilee is, someone hurry fast!

    • 5thDrawer

      Oh, I think they thought they could take a leisurely stroll to Gaza to create the ‘new resistance’ there … didn’t expect a real war-scene along the way using the long route. ;-)

      • AntiFSA

        5th, can you now understand why I support Hezbollah and Assad. Just look at the way these people think. If they have it their way, the ME as a whole will be dictated by Sharra law. I would rather be ruled by Assad than some Psychopathic Sunni Shiekh.
        I ask that you and rest do not judge Islam because of a few lunatics. Islam goes against the way these people think. They keep mention you drinking Alcohol, Well I can tell you that most of them drink as well. However they do it in secret. I have seen it first hand. For them, they can do what they want as long as they go to Hajj each year. Apparently going to Hajj for them each year wipes out all the sins they have done in the previous year which allows them to do what ever they want in the following year This is according to some of the conversations I’ve had with Sunni’s. I have chosen my side 5th and as the saying goes, Its better the devil you know. :)

        • Leborigine

          Hehehe, there is a saying “al mahroom, bil sirr mohallall’
          I think the majority of non muslims here do not have any problems with Islam. Unfortunately the terrorists are giving it a bad name.
          I can understand why you support HA, but assad is a big NoNo. The FSA, a larger NoNo. Anything with a syrian label is unwanted in the Holy Land Of the Cedars!

          • AntiFSA

            That’s what I mean, If I had to choose between the two, well Assad would win hands down. Lets hope it does not come down to us choosing.

          • Hannibal

            Your bias Anti is not healthy… While us, real Lebanese, never sided with the FSA we recognize that Assad is a criminal. The sad part is that you cheer for him because he is from your sect. There are bigger and more important figures in your sect who deserve to be acknowledged over this criminal. You may stay the course being ANTI- FSA but the right thing to do is to abandon Assad. The days of dictatorships are over… HA dictates the fate of our nation… It HAS to STOP! Either we are ONE nation or NOT… There is no in between.
            Finally, this game of Palestine and using it as a reason to carry weapons is so over… It was over since Assad and the Shiites slaughtered them in cold blood and still are. Enough kezib wu tenfii2… We see through them all. Time for a new generation and new blood to rule.

          • AntiFSA

            Hannibal, you have got me wrong, I don’t support Assad because he is from my sect. All I’m saying is if I had to choose between the two, Assad is the one I will side with. let’s be serious with each other Hannibal all of us have chosen a side. I’m just outspoken as to who I have chosen. I am also a staunch supporter of Aoun and Franjieh. And both are not even Muslim let alone from my sect. I agree with you though, we Lebanese need to stand as one. However this information should be directed to the Salifi’s. They are the ones who want to turn Lebanon into a Muslim state and rule with an iron fist.

          • Leborigine

            We should stand together and be proud of our country, and any serpent that disrespects our sovereignty should have its head cut off!

          • AntiFSA

            I completely and utterly agree with you Leborigine. I have never thought otherwise. The sad thing is, there are many serpents in Lebanon at the moment. Most have long beards with no Moustache’s. They can also be identified from an absolute disgusting smell. A bit like a sewer smell. :)

          • Hannibal

            Syrians will remain our enemies until they officially apologize to Lebanon and the Lebanese for their hegemony years over Lebanon and pay monetary retributions for years to come to the Lebanese people for stealing their wealth. Then and only then we may forgive them. Until then burn in hell Syria. You never wept when our kids lived in fear from your Russian-made weaponry, you never cried when our civilians were killed and our leaders slaughtered in cold blood by the despot regime’s Bashar the long necked Hyena and his father who is in Hell where he has his ass raped by demons every day.

          • Leborigine

            That’s what I’m talking about :-)

        • master09

          I do not support any side they all did bad in Lebanon and are doing it now. I reply because when someone has no idea you try to open up the brain even if takes you 100 years and even if you are talking to someone who says they believe the book but no one should read all of it. I mean how can that make any sense, its like someone saying I count to 100 but I chose to not say 3 6 8 9 17 and I don’t want to learn to say them because someone said I should not say them. How funny is that shit ….

          • AntiFSA

            Like I said Master, the wall is looking good. lol

        • 5thDrawer

          Wow Anti … found this one on a fast over-reading of what wargame describes as too long way back up there. :-) And yes, better to know the devils. Even the alcohol ones – there are good and bad scotches too. (all about taste ;-)
          I think it’s horrible in this day and age if the only way to straighten out sunnis is for shiias to shoot them and beat reporters in coffee shops all the time. But I can see logic in many of your arguments here as well.
          And basically you are saying that the countries with muslims will never function properly for all the people in them because the muslims can’t stop that pile of theoretical theology being debated – running off at the mouths with unrelated religious arguments – before getting down to doing some logical thinking about function. (Not saying christians don’t debate the silliness – they simply agree to keep it out of gov’t debate on fixing a road, or where to place a hydro-pole.) Which is why more than some of us want the ‘secular’ government and laws that don’t have everyone living in fear all the time … especially in Lebanon because we all seem to love the place – illogical as that IS most of the time when you really think about it. How many times do we hear: ‘Who needs this crap’. ??
          The problem is that the lunatics are running the place.
          And they ALL use religion to hold the power they will not give to the people.
          With equality under law for women as well, I will add.
          Democracy, as it has evolved – hated obviously by too many here – is about people agreeing to abide by majority rule. Peacefully accepting the immediate results of a vote – which they know in future can be changed with logic and consensus – for the good of a whole society.
          There has NEVER been good logic in ANYTHING past a few (theoretically 10 – not sure of that either) commandments.

          • 5thDrawer

            Adding to my own thoughts…..
            I can understand why Moses threw 2 stone tablets down in disgust. He had an epiphany experience alone on a mountain in peace and quiet surrounded by Nature – and then returned to the noisy cavorting masses – and instantly felt the insanity of the multitude crying in the wilderness that they wanted MORE.
            There had been no-one telling them they had to work for it.

        • Patience2

          ‘I would rather be ruled by Assad than some Psychopathic Sunni Shaikh.’ Now … that’s a very interesting statement(Sp. corrected). You might find a quick read of the book ‘Islam Dismantled’ by Sujit Das would give you new insight on what it means to be a ‘Psychopathic Shaikh’, Sunni or otherwise. Probably get it from Amazon. Try reading it BEFORE you choke up or consider suicide.

          • AntiFSA

            Patience, why would I want to read a book to find out what a Psychopathic is, All I need to do is read the shit you spin and this will clearly indicate to me what a Psychopathic person is. And not to mention how a Psychopathic person behaves.

          • Patience2

            Your programming appears to be relatively complete.

          • AntiFSA

            And your stupidity appears to be relatively complete. We hope. We wouldn’t want it to get any worse.

  • Beiruti

    Someone give them a map fast! I think they forgot where the Galilee is, someone hurry fast!

    • 5thDrawer

      Oh, I think they thought they could take a leisurely stroll to Gaza to create the ‘new resistance’ there … didn’t expect a real war-scene along the way. ;-)

      • sunniWAbass

        oh please dont think too much, you dont have a head of someone who thinks; i would rather say you look like someone who sinks or in the sinks

        • wargame1

          ” Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book (The Christians and the Jews) are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration.

          They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.

          Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right ” Quran 3:113-115

      • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

        5th, can you now understand why I support Hezbollah and Assad. Just look at the way these people think. If they have it their way, the ME as a whole will be dictated by Sharra law. I would rather be ruled by Assad than some Psychopathic Sunni Shiekh.
        I ask that you and rest do not judge Islam because of a few lunatics. Islam goes against the way these people think. They keep mention you drinking Alcohol, Well I can tell you that most of them drink as well. However they do it in secret. I have seen it first hand. For them, they can do what they want as long as they go to Hajj each year. Apparently going to Hajj for them each year wipes out all the sins they have done in the previous year which allows them to do what ever they want in the following year This is according to some of the conversations I’ve had with Sunni’s. I have chosen my side 5th and as the saying goes, Its better the devil you know. :)

        • Leborigine

          Hehehe, there is a saying “al mahroom, bil sirr mohallall’
          I think the majority of non muslims here do not have any problems with Islam. Unfortunately the terrorists are giving it a bad name.
          I can understand why you support HA, but assad is a big NoNo. The FSA, a larger NoNo. Anything with a syrian label is unwanted in the Holy Land Of the Cedars!

          • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

            That’s what I mean, If I had to choose between the two, well Assad would win hands down. Lets hope it does not come down to us choosing.

          • Hannibal

            Your bias Anti is not healthy… While us, real Lebanese, never sided with the FSA we recognize that Assad is a criminal. The sad part is that you cheer for him because he is from your sect. There are bigger and more important figures in your sect who deserve to be acknowledged over this criminal. You may stay the course being ANTI- FSA but the right thing to do is to abandon Assad. The days of dictatorships are over… HA dictates the fate of our nation… It HAS to STOP! Either we are ONE nation or NOT… There is no in between.
            Finally, this game of Palestine and using it as a reason to carry weapons is so over… It was over since Assad and the Shiites slaughtered them in cold blood and still are. Enough kezib wu tenfii2… We see through them all. Time for a new generation and new blood to rule.

          • AntiFSA

            Hannibal, you have got me wrong, I don’t support Assad because he is from my sect. All I’m saying is if I had to choose between the two, Assad is the one I will side with. let’s be serious with each other Hannibal all of us have chosen a side. I’m just outspoken as to who I have chosen. I am also a staunch supporter of Aoun and Franjieh. And both are not even Muslim let alone from my sect. I agree with you though, we Lebanese need to stand as one. However this information should be directed to the Salifi’s. They are the ones who want to turn Lebanon into a Muslim state and rule with an iron fist.

          • Leborigine

            We should stand together and be proud of our country, and any serpent that disrespects our sovereignty should have its head cut off!

          • AntiFSA

            I completely and utterly agree with you Leborigine. I have never thought otherwise. The sad thing is, there are many serpents in Lebanon at the moment. Most have long beards with no Moustache’s. They can also be identified from an absolute disgusting smell. A bit like a sewer smell. :)

          • Hannibal

            Syrians will remain our enemies until they officially apologize to Lebanon and the Lebanese for their hegemony years over Lebanon and pay monetary retributions for years to come to the Lebanese people for stealing their wealth. Then and only then we may forgive them. Until then burn in hell Syria. You never wept when our kids lived in fear from your Russian-made weaponry, you never cried when our civilians were killed and our leaders slaughtered in cold blood by the despot regime’s Bashar the long necked Hyena and his father who is in Hell where he has his ass raped by demons every day.

          • Leborigine

            That’s what I’m talking about :-)

        • master09

          I do not support any side they all did bad in Lebanon and are doing it now. I reply because when someone has no idea you try to open up the brain even if takes you 100 years and even if you are talking to someone who says they believe the book but no one should read all of it. I mean how can that make any sense, its like someone saying I count to 100 but I chose to not say 3 6 8 9 17 and I don’t want to learn to say them because someone said I should not say them. How funny is that shit ….

          • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

            Like I said Master, the wall is looking good. lol

        • 5thDrawer

          Wow Anti … found this one on a fast over-reading of what wargame describes as too long way back up there. :-) And yes, better to know the devils. Even the alcohol ones – there are good and bad scotches too. (all about taste ;-)
          I think it’s horrible in this day and age if the only way to straighten out sunnis is for shiias to shoot them and beat reporters in coffee shops all the time. But I can see logic in many of your arguments here as well.
          And basically you are saying that the countries with muslims will never function properly for all the people in them because the muslims can’t stop that pile of theoretical theology being debated – running off at the mouths with unrelated religious arguments – before getting down to doing some logical thinking about function. (Not saying christians don’t debate the silliness – they simply agree to keep it out of gov’t debate on fixing a road, or where to place a hydro-pole.) Which is why more than some of us want the ‘secular’ government and laws that don’t have everyone living in fear all the time … especially in Lebanon because we all seem to love the place – illogical as that IS most of the time when you really think about it. How many times do we hear: ‘Who needs this crap’. ??
          The problem is that the lunatics are running the place.
          And they ALL use religion to hold the power they will not give to the people.
          With equality under law for women as well, I will add.
          Democracy, as it has evolved – hated obviously by too many here – is about people agreeing to abide by majority rule. Peacefully accepting the immediate results of a vote – which they know in future can be changed with logic and consensus – for the good of a whole society.
          There has NEVER been good logic in ANYTHING past a few (theoretically 10 – not sure of that either) commandments.

          • 5thDrawer

            Adding to my own thoughts…..
            I can understand why Moses threw 2 stone tablets down in disgust. He had an epiphany experience alone on a mountain in peace and quiet surrounded by Nature – and then returned to the noisy cavorting masses – and instantly felt the insanity of the multitude crying in the wilderness that they wanted MORE.
            There had been no-one telling them they had to work for it.

        • Patience2

          ‘I would rather be ruled by Assad than some Psychopathic Sunni Shaikh.’ Now … that’s a very interesting statement(Sp. corrected). You might find a quick read of the book ‘Islam Dismantled’ by Sujit Das would give you new insight on what it means to be a ‘Psychopathic Shaikh’, Sunni or otherwise. Probably get it from Amazon. Try reading it BEFORE you choke up or consider suicide.

          • AntiFSA

            Patience, why would I want to read a book to find out what a Psychopathic is, All I need to do is read the shit you spin and this will clearly indicate to me what a Psychopathic person is. And not to mention how a Psychopathic person behaves.

          • Patience2

            Your programming appears to be relatively complete.

          • AntiFSA

            And your stupidity appears to be relatively complete. We hope. We wouldn’t want it to get any worse.

  • Beiruti

    They are soon about to liberate the land from the Zionists!

    • 5thDrawer

      And SANA reporters are foaming at the mouth …. ;-)
      “praise be to God, a large number of their fighters were killed and 16 vehicles were destroyed. Their plan has failed. Now there’s a new plan” … And that line from one of theirs. Amazing.
      So now they will move through the alleys and get bombed by Assad’s ‘air defence’ too.

      • sunniWAbass

        the day the saudis will kick your ass, fruit-flies would prove more intelligent than you

    • Patience2

      Yah … they’ll smother the Zionists with their HA dead bodies.

  • Beiruti

    They are soon about to liberate the land from the Zionists!

    • 5thDrawer

      And SANA reporters are foaming at the mouth …. ;-)

      • sunniWAbass

        the day the saoudis will kick your ass, fruit-flies would prove more intelligent than you

    • Patience2

      Yah … they’ll smother the Zionists with their dead bodies.

  • wargame1

    Protect your loved ones with a prepaid funeral plan.

    What is a prepaid funeral plan?

    By deciding to pre plan and pre pay for the funeral, family and loved ones are relieved of the responsibility at a time when their grief and distress will be more than enough of a burden. In addition, because they are paid at today’s prices, funeral plans guarantee a fixed cost funeral service that will not be changed by future price increases or inflation.Flags will be provided.

    • 5thDrawer

      Geezz wargame … people need to work a while to be able to afford the plot.

      • wargame1

        undertakers can provide more information about the cheapest land.

        • 5thDrawer

          Somewhere in the Sheeba Farms area of Syria perhaps?? ;-)
          (a bit of a drive to put flowers on it – but could be part of a camping-holiday .. hmmmm)

  • wargame1

    Protect your loved ones with a prepaid funeral plan.

    What is a prepaid funeral plan?

    By deciding to pre plan and pre pay for the funeral, family and loved ones are relieved of the responsibility at a time when their grief and distress will be more than enough of a burden. In addition, because they are paid at today’s prices, funeral plans guarantee a fixed cost funeral service that will not be changed by future price increases or inflation.Flags will be provided.

    • 5thDrawer

      Geezz wargame … people need to work a while to be able to afford the plot.

      • wargame1

        undertakers can provide more information about the cheapest land.

        • 5thDrawer

          Somewhere in the Sheeba Farms area of Syria perhaps?? ;-)
          (a bit of a drive to put flowers on it – but could be part of a camping-holiday .. hmmmm)

  • Patience2

    Why even report this sort of trivia! Who cares?

    • 5thDrawer

      Gotta keep the Twits twittering, Patience. ;-) The Saudis don’t like twits – that’s a reason in itself.

      • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

        ya ghabi try to understand what wargame is teaching here before making nonsense comments; shuddup and learn

    • sunniWAbass

      you are right brother, shia are as kouffar as christians ans jews

      • AntiFSA

        You and who thinks like you are an embarrassment to Islam. Which piece of shit Sheikh issued this Fatwa. Now you know why we are so hated. Its because of uneducated fools like yourself. Please explain to me why Shia, Christians and Jews are kouffar

        • Leborigine

          Hey Anti, don’t get so fired up, this thing is on your side. Its that syriansyphillis thing and it is just being sarcastic. It is actually a Aoun/HA supporter and it is just creating a fitnee. Ignore it and it will go away.

          • AntiFSA

            I have to disagree with you Leborigine, my side as you put it, even if trying to create a fitnee would not say something so low. This animal is a brainwashed piece of shit. And has nothing to do with Islam. Take my word on that brother.

          • wargame1

            What are you doing in Syria reflects in your shia holy book teaching

            “ The money of the Al-Nasib (the Sunni) is Halal (permissible to be stolen) and every thing he owns is Halal.” ( Al-Tusi, Tahzeeb Al-Ahkam, Vol. 2, p. 48 and Al-Hur Al-Amili, Wasil Al-Shia, Vol. 11, p.60)

            So you are doing a halal business in Syria

          • wargame1

            In the Quran and from the hadis we learn that the wives of the prophet is called the Mother of the Believers. But in Shia book you learn something which goes against the Quran and sunnah. Read this shia teaching

            Abd-Rahman Al-Qaseer reported that Abi Ja’far (a. s.) said: “When our Qa’im (Shia’s 12 imam) rises, Al-Humaira (Aisha, Prophet Mohammad’s wife) will be returned (resurrected) so that he flogs her according to the law of hudud, and takes revenge for the Umma (nation or people) of Fatima (meaning the Shia).”

            So, I (Abd-Rahman Al-Qaseer) said: “How come Allah (God) delays this punishment to (be performed by) the Qa’im (12 imam) ?”

            He said: “ Allah sent Mohammad (p) as a Mercy, and sends Al-Qa’im (Mahdi) as a Vengeance (Revenge).” (Baqir Al-Majlisi, Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 314-315)

          • wargame1

            Do you read Quran or do you read Talmud??? I have this question because the following shia teaching has some evidence

            Abu Obeida Al-Hazza attributed to Imam Abu Abdullah [a.s.] (Shia’s 6th Imam) saying: “O Abu Obeida when Qa’im (Imam Mahdi) of the House of Muhammad (s.a.w.) rises up, he will rule according to the law of David and Solomon and he will not be asked for evidence.” (Al-Kulayni, Usul Al-Kafi, Vol. 1, p. 397 , Al-Mufeed Al-Tusi, Al-Irshad, p. 413, and Alam Al-Wara, p. 433 )

          • wargame1

            The source of Shia’s knowledge is from the Israelites, most probably, the Talmud

            The Imam (a.s.) remained silent for a while and then said, “(Held) With us, there is Al-Jifr (the parchment). Do you know what Al-Jifr is?” I then asked, “What is Al-Jifr ?” The Imams (a.s.) said, “It is a container made of leather that contains knowledge of the prophets and the executors of their wills and the knowledge of the scholars of the past from the Israelites.” (Al-Kulayni, Al-Kafi, Vol. 1, Chapter 40, p. 635)

            Hey you call yourself Muslim tell us about your tire headed Mullahs whether they read Quran or Talmud

          • wargame1

            Shia’s Mahdi will call God by God’s Hebrew name !!! Why not in Farsi or Arabic???I am getting suspicious ………

            Al-Mufadhal ibn Umar is reported to have said that Abu Abdullah [a.s.] (Shia’s 6th Imams) said: “When the Imam (12 imam) makes a call (for prayer), he will supplicate to God using God’s Hebrew name…” (Al-Numani, Al-Ghayba , p.326)

          • Hannibal

            God’s Hebrew name has no name… Yahweh translates to I am HE… The God with NO NAME… Because if HE had a name He would have a predecessor to name Him. Since He is the beginning He has NO NAME…

          • wargame1

            When Shia’s Imam Mahdi appears, Shia’s Taqiyyah will be annulled i.e. End of Taqiyyah.

            Taqiyyah is something compulsory to be practiced by one who is following the Shiism .In a narration attributed to the 8th Shia Imam, Ali bin Musa, he said,“ The one who is not wari (pious) has no religion and the one who does not practice Taqiyyah has no Iman ( deep faith).” So he was asked, “O grandson of the Messenger, until when (is one required to practice Taqiyyah)?” He replied, “Until a certain day (i.e. the day Imam Mahdi appears). Whoever does not practice Taqiyyah before the appearance of Imam Mahdi, is not one of us.” (Al-Ardabili, Kashf al-Ghummah , p. 341).

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            coming from a mitwali 7akir, i wont comment; when assad will be massacred soon, your turn will come inshallah

          • wargame1

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:17

            “But We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:22

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:32

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:40

            ARE YOU BRAIN DEAD??????

          • wargame1

            Yes Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets. and the best Scholors are the companions of the Prophet. So bring evidence from the sahabas first.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            It is a Book We have revealed to you abounding in good that they may ponder over its verses, and that those endowed with understanding may be mindful. (Saad 38:29)

            So to ponder and contemplate over his creations and verses is what we are meant to do but we should always first refer to reliable scholarly tafsir of the particular verses just to make sure we have a correct understanding of those verses and then we can use our own knowledge and experiences of life to ponder and contemtplate upon those verses.

        • master09

          Thank you Anti the hate is not at Islam and you, my point always it is these looney bins that give Islam a bad name, just like the 500 priest that rape little boys out of 500,000 Christian priest . Peace to those that want peace and I would be happy to be at peace with the Jews rather than war at our door step every day.

          • AntiFSA

            agreed

          • wargame1

            The Shia Holy book hate speech preach that who ever differ with the Shias are subject to kill . Please read this

            “For those in our (Shia’s) State who differ with us, there is a punishment. God has made their blood Halal (permissible to be shed) when our Qa’im (Shia’s 12 imam) emerges.”( Baqir Al-Majlisi’s Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 50, p. 373)

            Explain this teaching

          • Hannibal

            The teaching is bullshit: As God said THOUGH SHALT NOT KILL!
            Your blood should be Halal… Wulak toz 3ala heyk fiker… Heathen Saracen.

          • wargame1

            Digging up the graves of the Prophet’s Sahabahs (Companions) by the 12 Imam!! We never heard such thing from the prophet or his companions but some one wrote shia holy book and preaching this for centuries

            “(When Shia’s Mahdi) Will come to Yathrib (Medina’s old name), and destroy the Al-Hujra Al-Nabawiyya (the Room of Aisha in which Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w.) was buried and later Abu Bakr and Omar were also buried there) and will dig out who is in it while they are lean and will order them to be sent to Al-Baqi and order two pieces of wood to be crucified on them…” (Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 53, p. 104 -105)

            The graves of Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq (r.a.) and Umar bin al-Khattab (r.a.) (Prophet Mohammad’s companions and successors as Caliphs) are to be dug up, and they are to be crucified and flogged in front of the crowds. Both of them will be resurrected to receive their sentences. (Ni’matullah Al-Jazairi, Al-Anwar Al-Numaniyah, Vol.2, p. 85 and Baqir Al-Majlisi, Haq al-Yaqeen, Vol. 2, p. 242)

            Isnt it sick? if you call yourself Muslims then do not follow this teaching please

          • Reasonableman

            Subhanallah an 3aqida based on hatred. They say ali r.a didnt beat up abu bakr and unar radiallah w 3an so he doesnt start fitna between the muslims but then they go and cause fitna between the muslims the 3aqida is trash and based on hatred.

          • Btru2u

            According to the Shia version of events. Ali must have been a coward not to defend or even speak up against the caliphate that he should have taken.
            No Ali(ra) was not a coward , he told his followers to support the chosen caliphate, but it was his supposed followers (kharijeen) that apostated from Islam and disobeyed Ali, and divided the Muslims.

          • Reasonableman

            Ali radiallah w 3an is free from there shirk they are the cowards

          • wargame1

            “Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration.

            They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.

            Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right.” Quran 3:113-115

            I have no reason to call them Kafir as Allah in the Quran told us about them. Any innovation is an act of Kufr.

          • Hannibal

            So why do I care? Can’t you guys leave this in history and build a modern society without the stories of 1001 nights?

          • 5thDrawer

            I have a 4-volume complete unabridged of the 1839 Calcutta edition – Shahrazad had to be knowledgeable – it was worth her life. ;-)
            Certainly NOT the nicey-nice children’s tales – but largely informative of customs of a time … which many seem not to have left behind.

          • 5thDrawer

            Not only sick, a little far-fetched. I must say you ARE laying it out there very well. One up for that, wargame. ;-)

          • wargame1

            Shia’s 12 imam will Rule according to the Law of David i.e. TALMUD !!!!!!!!!!

            Muhammad ibn Ahmad attributes to Jaeed al Hamdani asking Ali ibn Al-Hussein [a.s.] (Shia’s 4th Imams): “I asked him by which law will you (the 12 Imams) rule?” Ali ibn Al-Hussein [as]: said: “By the ruling (law) of the family of David, and if we encounter something perplexing, Ruh Al- Quds ( Holy Spirit, meaning Angel Gabriel ) will solve it for us.” ( Al-Kulayni , Al-Kafi, Vol. 1, p. 397)

            can you explain this please

          • Hannibal

            That will be the day when we abide by the ruling of the family of David… We abide with the rule of the Son of Man Son of God… The ONE and ONLY yesuu3 el malak.

          • wargame1

            I agree with you but you need to be informed more about the Shia teaching against the sunnis. Here is an example. This is coming from their book so as long as this teaching continuse the problem stays

            “Take the money (meaning by stealing or rip-off) of Al-Nasib (the Sunni) wherever you find it and pay to us Al-Khums (one fifth of the money).” (Al-Tusi, Tahzeeb Al-Ahkam, Vol. 1, p. 384, Ibn Idriss, Al-Sarair p. 484, and Al-Hur Al-Amili, Wasil Al-Shia, Vol. 340, p.6)

            So you pay Khumus to your tire headed Mullahs after robbing a sunni and it is halal!!!

          • wargame1

            Shia’s Imam Mahdi will be an Anti-Arab bigot who will massacre the Arabs. The shia mullahs are creating hatred against the Arabs . Take a look…

            “There will be nothing left between us and the Arabs, except slaughter.” (Baqir Al-Majlisi, Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 349 and Al-Numani,Al-Ghaiba, p. 155)

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            inta kafer mitlak mitl al yahood

          • wargame1

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:17

            “But We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:22

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:32

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:40

            NOW if you dont understand it then look for the tafsir which also compiled with hadis and the related incident when any particular verse were revealed. Bring Evident from the Quran and the hadis only. Tell us what the companions said about each verse. NO IMAM PLEASE

          • wargame1

            You need to learn that when you post a hadis or Quran verse you must give reference such as the number of the verse or the hadis book . Now look how you present hadis

            “The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said: One who interprets the Quran according to personal opinion he makes his place in fire (Hell).

            One who interprets the Quran according to his view,even though it may be right, yet he has committed a sin.”

            Where is the reference? insert the reference. Well the Quran was revealed with a span of 25 years and the most closest people who not only recorded it but also acted upon it are the Prophet and his companions and they made all record as when it was revealed and what was the circumstances etc and many hadis regarding it which are al recorded. Now your so called Imams are trying to give a new interpretation only to burn in hell. Like you said the Jews and Christians are supposedly Kafirs but you cant prove it from the Quran and the hadis then you said they deserve death penalty which also you can not prove from the hadis and from the Quran ,so will you please bring evidence from the Quran and hadis and keep those Imams aside? Why cant you say what the sahabs say about a verse? Why do you ignore the sahabas and bring those so called Imams?

          • wargame1

            In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (s) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai. It consisted of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war.

            An English translation of that document is presented below.

            “This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
            Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
            No compulsion is to be on them.
            Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
            No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.
            Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
            No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
            The Muslims are to fight for them.
            If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
            Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
            No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”

            DO YOU SEE THIS COMMANDMENT APPLIES “TILL THE LAST DAY” SO DONT CALL THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS KAFIRS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT

          • Hannibal

            However the acts of the many moslems do not follow Mohammed’s teachings… Iraq? Egypt? Lebanon? Syria? and the rest of the world. In Saudi Arabia Christians are not allowed to erect a church… Hell Swiss Air had to remove its national emblem to be allowed to land in their airports.

        • wargame1

          I have found some hate preaching in the Shia Holy Book..Here is one

          Sayid Sadr states: “Indeed, most the killings (by the 12 imam & his followers) that happen to mankind will be directed against the Muslims. Then, he (Shia’s 12 imam) will distribute a copy of his book (a new scripture, not the current Quran)…” (Sayyid Husein Al-Musawi, Li Allah Thumma Li Tarikh, p.137)

          Now explain this why your 12 imam would kill the Muslims and from where he gets his new scripture?

        • wargame1

          “Al-Muntazar (the Awaited One, meaning Shia’s 12 imam) will walk amongst the Arabs and kill them.” (Baqir Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 318)

          So we know where you get the inspiration in killing the Arabs. Israel must be happy reading this book

        • wargame1

          Shia’s 12 imam will supposedly destroy the Ka’bah and the two Holy Mosques of Mecca and Medina including the Mosque of the prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him). Well we dont know who insert this teaching in your holy book but hey calling yourself Muslim and intending to Break the Kaaba and the Mosque of the Prophet is not normal. Please read this

          “Al-Qaim (Shia’s Mahdi) will demolish Haram Mosque (in Mecca) down to its foundation and the Messenger’s Mosque (Prophet Mohammad’s s.a.w. Mosque in Medina) down to its foundation.” (Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 52, p. 338, and Al-Tusi, Al-Ghaibah, p. 282)

          “When 12 imam rises up, he will demolish Al-Haram Mosque ( in Mecca) …’” (Al-Mufid, Al-Irshad. p. 411 and At-Tusi, Kitab al Ghaibah, p. 282)

      • wargame1

        In the whole Quran and from All the hadis of the Prophet you can find that the Christians and the Jews are called “People of the book” Ahlul Kitab. So calling them Kafir is an act of Kufr. If they are not hostile against us then we have no problem with them. Since the Quran and the hadis is clear about the Jews and the Christians as People of the book therefore its our duty to follow the teachings of Allah and his messenger.

        • Btru2u

          Salaam Akihi. We don’t have to be hostile against them, but don’t give more credit than they are due. Kuffar means deniers or rejectors of the Prophet (pbuh) and the holy Quran. They hate our prophet and they hate us secretly and openly. They Are called people of the book but the book has been changed with their own hands. God curses those who change his word to suit themselves.
          That is why they will remain in ignorance, remain hard hearted , and will continue to wander in distraction with no purpose except a damned grizzly fate. Hold fast to your Islam brothers and sisters, and don’t mingle with the devils.

          • wargame1

            “Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” Quran 5:82

            “And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.”
            Quran 5:85

            The Quran is sufficient for me to get the guidance and I dont like to invent thing which has no base in Islam

          • Btru2u

            Salaams Akhi war gamer please also quote the two ayat you missed in between other wise you will not get the full meaning. Let me help you.

            Quran 5:83 “and when they listen to the revelation received by the messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray”our lord we believe;write us down amongst the witnesses.

            5:84 what cause have we not to believe in Allah, and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long for our lord to admit us to the company of the righteous”

            These verses seem to be talking about some Christians who were so moved that they became Muslims. They did not deny the truth. As a matter of fact the “sincere Jews and Christians found in the holy prophet a fulfilment of their own religion. As a generalisation , Jewish and Christian people’s as they existed in the 7th century of the Christian Era have been mainly absorbed by Islam. Remnants of them built up a nuclei. The Roman Catholic Church conquered new lands among the northern Germanic pagans and the Byzantine church among the eastern Slavonic pagans.

          • wargame1

            You should read Quran to get out of your ignorance. I dont want your definition of Kafir and if you wish to give those defination then do not invent from your ignorance in the name of Islam rather go to the Quran and the Hadis and Quote from there as I did. Your statement has no value but the Quran and the Hadis has and that is credible source.

            There are some Qutubis who identify themselves as sunnis are the one who invent this new term ,these are Al-Qaeda secretly sponsored by Iranian Majoosis regime. Among them are Iman Al Zawaheri(SOB) these group of people mimic end time prophesy and carry black flag ,their front organization is called “Hezbuttahrir” invented by a sufi and a former Baath party member Taqyuddin Al Nabahani back in 1950s .these people do not believe in the punishment of the grave, reject the existance of Dajjal, They even curse the sahabas,Rejects those hadis which expose their evil agenda.

            These pigs claim responsibility of 911 and London 7/7 bombing.They Support Iranian regime as their Amir in London Omer Bakri Muhammad send their delegation to Khomenie and asked him to be the Khalifa. They have a “sharia court” in the UK under the nose of the British Government. This group has influence on Al Nusra front. They have managed to recruite the sunni foot solders and brain wash them but this group is now in trouble as they are having internal dispute. This hadis mimicking Black Flag holders i.e. Al-Qaeda are FAKE and they will be destroyed in Syria. The original Black Banner holders are the lost ten tribe of Israel i.e. The Pushtuns in Afghanistan who are the true followers of Moses(peace be upon him)

          • Reasonableman

            Sallam 3allaykom akhi can you send me the hadith of the black flag holders and the fake black flag holders i am at work and dont have my books with me. If you want i can send you my email or post it here sallam

          • wargame1

            There are some hadis about the Black Flag holders coming from Khorashan(Afghanistan) who will conquer Jerusalem. Several other hadis mentioned about the Black Flag but all of them applies in the end time event. But the Abbasid Dynasty exploited these hadis for political reason and used this flag during the Abbasid era in order to gain popularity.

            If you look at the current Syrian rebel flag which is the Syrians “Flag of independence” during the French invasion. Notice the color Black ,White and Green.
            The flag’s green colour stood for the Rashidun,
            white represented the Umayyad and
            black symbolized the Abbasid.
            Originally, the three red stars represented the three districts of Syria, Aleppo,Damascus, and Deir ez-Zor. The rebels are using this flag simply to oppose the Syrian Red flag. This rebel flag has no connection with the Al-Qaeda black flag.

            Our Focus is on the “Black Flag” and who is behind this flag in the current conflict. I will demonstrate the Iranian connection with the Al-Qaeda Flag. Since there is a hadis of black flag the extremist group is trying to exploit the current situation. It is very difficult to challenge them as they are carrying the flag of the “Shahada” and talking about sharia! Therefore we need to do some back ground check on this group. You may watch this video where the Syrian Al Nusra spokesman says ….Shias are our brothers and we Sonnis and Shias must unite under the “Khilafah” of the Jordanian King and that the son of King Abdullah is the Mahdi! Here is the youtube link

            /watch?v=7jyYWU-6IE8

            p.s.I will post those hadis of the black flags soon as I am off to work now

          • Reasonableman

            Allah yowik brother
            The video is private. Jazakallahw5ayron

          • 5thDrawer

            The only logical Hadith possible about black is the absence of light.

          • wargame1

            I have checked the video it is gone. After the video was released there were heavy criticism so those Al-Qaeda quickly brought it down. This group will create fitnah in Syria but will be punished hard and will be destroyed inshallah. Please send your email so I will compile them all and send you. This place has too many comments already.

          • Reasonableman
          • 5thDrawer

            Maybe time you all went back and re-read the Nag Hammadi.

          • Hannibal

            LOL hahahahahahahahahaha

          • master09

            We do not follow a man that lived and killed by the sword simple. We follow our lord who preach nothing but peace love and charity. Who is the devil the one that kills our the one that loves and spreads peace. Which one would you follow a killer or the peace maker.

          • Hannibal

            Strangely we say the same about you heathen…

            Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed in the beginning with God.”
            Jesus said: “Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad.”
            The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?”
            Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”

            Then He goes on saying:
            “The Father and I are one.”
            Once again the people picked up stones to kill him.
            Jesus said, “At my Father’s direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?”
            They replied, “We’re stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God.”
            Jesus shouted to the crowds, “If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me. For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me. I have come as a light to shine in this dark world, so that all who put their trust in me will no longer remain in the dark.”
            “I am the way, the truth, the life”

            Believe in Jesus for He will be back to judge you heathen…

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            when you go to beirut, no worries, i will go to the airport with an official escort to receive you; i will get you out of the plane in the diplomatic route

          • Hannibal

            tel7as

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            speaking your christian slang: manu militari

          • master09

            And tell me what evidence is there that Mohamed wrote the book. NON. But he did hold prisoner many who where scholars . That should give you a clue.

          • Btru2u

            , there is no exuses in this Information Age. You can search for the truth ,just google . The “sealed nectar(the life of the prophet”,), “science and the Quran”, and “Quran translation and commentry by yusuf Ali,” are just a few , to study the message that is the last word from The Almighty , that is easy for us to understand. Islam will take over the world brother, not by force , but through the realisation of the wisdom of its teachings. Als google “bible found in turkey”The oldest Bible (the gospel of barnabas) was found recently in turkey and it prophecies the coming of Mohammed (PBUH). Try to deny the proof that is staring you in the face. We believe if you follow the TRUE teaching of Jesus ,then you will be saved. But most Christians follow the teachings of the church. You should study for yourself if your intention is pure , you have nothing to fear and you will be protected by God. There is nothing wrong with searching for the truth. May you be guided brother .

          • 5thDrawer

            There I agree with you about searching … but only-googling is perhaps not the best way.

          • master09

            Your kidding you want me to do google your not joking rite. I am guided by the light Jesus the one and only . How has Islam grown your kidding again Muslims are becoming Christians by the millions google that one . I am not going to google an article writen by some man who translates what he wants people to hear. Google wow . You keep your prophet. Jesus was not a prophet but the light the spirit and the guiding light to eternal life. Mohamed was just a man who lived by war. Tell me he did not wage war on to people and kill thousands. Peace and Jesus the almighty will save your soul.

          • master09

            For 12 years it has been held and even they say it was written around 600 years after Jesus . So don,t get your hopes too high.

          • Constantin7

            Btru2u, you are a true muslim, bidoun laf wou dawaran. But let me, the kafir, clarify one thing to you: we christians do not hate muslims, after all your ancestors may be christians who converted to live in peace, but yes we do not believe in your prophet and hate him and hate his instructions. You and all muslims are victims of this man’s confusing and contradictory instructions. I do not expect any credit from you and do not ask for any. If you think we are in ignorance, look around you in the world and compare muslim observant societies and christian observant societies and you (the educated person – using your brain) tell me who seems / looks / is ignorant. Who is more ignorant the saudis or the germans, the afghanis or the british, the turks or the swiss, you compare….Finally if you do not want to mingle with the devils (as you consider christians as devils), then I suggest that you do not use or buy anything they produce (the cars, the tv, the phone, the cloth you are wearing, the glasses, the computer, the internet, etc…) like that you will be completely PURE from the devils we are. I pity you when I see how Islam affected you and brainwashed you and transformed you in a negative person hating anyone who is not muslim, but specifically christians and jews, who are ahlu el kitab afterall, and knew God before muslims or mohammad knew him.

      • wargame1

        “Those who have caused schism (splitting or division) in their religion and they have become Shia (sects or groups), you (Prophet Mohammad) are not one of them in any way. Their case (for judgment & punishment) is up to Allah. Then, He (Allah) will tell (confront) them about what they used to do.” (Quran 6:159)

        The Shias themselves separated from the main stream Islam and all these small sects such as shia sufi alawite druzi, kadiani ismayli etc are 7% combined and the sunnis are 93% world wide.These small sects do not grow but the sunni Islam grow and the sunni islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet. Allah will expose those who identify themselves as Muslims and destroy Islam from within.

      • wargame1

        “Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” Quran 5:82

        “And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.”
        Quran 5:85

        • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

          Muslim scholars and commentator of Quran are unanimous on the view that no one has the right to interpret the ayats of Quran according to ones personal view and opinion. Many traditions are narrated in this regard. We present below a few examples of the same:

          1. The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said: One who interprets the Quran according to personal opinion he makes his place in fire (Hell).

          2. One who interprets the Quran according to his view,even though it may be right, yet he has committed a sin.

      • LEBANON101

        god dosnt even know who u r

        • AntiFSA

          No LEBANON101, gods does know very well who they are. After all God gave man the vision to create a Zoo so they can have some where warm to sleep. What a generous God he is.

          • LEBANON101

            the shia in lebanon are phoneican who converted to Christianity then to shia islam. they fled to the south after facing persecution by newly established sunni caliphates. in that time more Christians and and shias converted to sunni. up until recent times shia and maronited have gotten together very well and to this day their is no issues between the chritians and shia in the south and bekka valley. other than political differences . so to say lebanon is a sunni country is a very dumb thing

          • AntiFSA

            It will never become a Sunni country. It should be a country for all to live in and have peace. (A little electricity wouldn’t hurt either) The Christians, Shia and Alawites will kick theirs asses if they even try to sing that song. The funny thing about it is they know to well that this will be the outcome if they try. I tell you what though, it would be funny to see them try.

          • MossadAgent

            you need to read Tanach; looks like quran

      • Hannibal

        Time for another Crusade and let us see who the kouffar are? You got a beating in Afghanistan… Are you itching for another?

        • MossadAgent

          you christians are cowards, foufou zouzou and toutou; i see you are like a toutou

          • Hannibal

            You are the same “agent” who calls himself sunniWAbass, MossadAgent, SunnaRepublic, etc. etc. You are the guy Hariri and Geagea sexually abused in some kind of an orgy and became disillusioned with your own identity. So every other day you come back to create a “fitna”. You are nothing but a fart bag low life scum. Get a life will you?

  • Patience2

    Why even report this sort of trivia! Who cares?

    • 5thDrawer

      Gotta keep the Twits twittering, Patience. ;-) The Saudis don’t like twits – that’s a reason in itself.

      • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

        ya ghabi try to understand what wargame is teaching here before making nonsense comments; shuddup and learn

    • sunniWAbass

      you are right brother, shia are as kouffar as christians ans jews

      • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

        You and who thinks like you are an embarrassment to Islam. Which piece of shit Sheikh issued this Fatwa. Now you know why we are so hated. Its because of uneducated fools like yourself. Please explain to me why Shia, Christians and Jews are kouffar

        • Leborigine

          Hey Anti, don’t get so fired up, this thing is on your side. Its that syriansyphillis thing and it is just being sarcastic. It is actually a Aoun/HA supporter and it is just creating a fitnee. Ignore it and it will go away.

          • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

            I have to disagree with you Leborigine, my side as you put it, even if trying to create a fitnee would say something so low. This animal is a brainwashed piece of shit. And has nothing to do with Islam. Take my word on that brother.

          • wargame1

            What are you doing in Syria reflects in your shia holy book teaching

            “ The money of the Al-Nasib (the Sunni) is Halal (permissible to be stolen) and every thing he owns is Halal.” ( Al-Tusi, Tahzeeb Al-Ahkam, Vol. 2, p. 48 and Al-Hur Al-Amili, Wasil Al-Shia, Vol. 11, p.60)

            So you are doing a halal business in Syria

          • wargame1

            In the Quran and from the hadis we learn that the wives of the prophet is called the Mother of the Believers. But in Shia book you learn something which goes against the Quran and sunnah. Read this shia teaching

            Abd-Rahman Al-Qaseer reported that Abi Ja’far (a. s.) said: “When our Qa’im (Shia’s 12 imam) rises, Al-Humaira (Aisha, Prophet Mohammad’s wife) will be returned (resurrected) so that he flogs her according to the law of hudud, and takes revenge for the Umma (nation or people) of Fatima (meaning the Shia).”

            So, I (Abd-Rahman Al-Qaseer) said: “How come Allah (God) delays this punishment to (be performed by) the Qa’im (12 imam) ?”

            He said: “ Allah sent Mohammad (p) as a Mercy, and sends Al-Qa’im (Mahdi) as a Vengeance (Revenge).” (Baqir Al-Majlisi, Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 314-315)

          • wargame1

            Do you read Quran or do you read Talmud??? I have this question because the following shia teaching has some evidence

            Abu Obeida Al-Hazza attributed to Imam Abu Abdullah [a.s.] (Shia’s 6th Imam) saying: “O Abu Obeida when Qa’im (Imam Mahdi) of the House of Muhammad (s.a.w.) rises up, he will rule according to the law of David and Solomon and he will not be asked for evidence.” (Al-Kulayni, Usul Al-Kafi, Vol. 1, p. 397 , Al-Mufeed Al-Tusi, Al-Irshad, p. 413, and Alam Al-Wara, p. 433 )

          • wargame1

            The source of Shia’s knowledge is from the Israelites, most probably, the Talmud

            The Imam (a.s.) remained silent for a while and then said, “(Held) With us, there is Al-Jifr (the parchment). Do you know what Al-Jifr is?” I then asked, “What is Al-Jifr ?” The Imams (a.s.) said, “It is a container made of leather that contains knowledge of the prophets and the executors of their wills and the knowledge of the scholars of the past from the Israelites.” (Al-Kulayni, Al-Kafi, Vol. 1, Chapter 40, p. 635)

            Hey you call yourself Muslim tell us about your tire headed Mullahs whether they read Quran or Talmud

          • wargame1

            Shia’s Mahdi will call God by God’s Hebrew name !!! Why not in Farsi or Arabic???I am getting suspicious ………

            Al-Mufadhal ibn Umar is reported to have said that Abu Abdullah [a.s.] (Shia’s 6th Imams) said: “When the Imam (12 imam) makes a call (for prayer), he will supplicate to God using God’s Hebrew name…” (Al-Numani, Al-Ghayba , p.326)

          • Hannibal

            God’s Hebrew name has no name… Yahweh translates to I am HE… The God with NO NAME… Because if HE had a name He would have a predecessor to name Him. Since He is the beginning He has NO NAME…

          • wargame1

            When Shia’s Imam Mahdi appears, Shia’s Taqiyyah will be annulled i.e. End of Taqiyyah.

            Taqiyyah is something compulsory to be practiced by one who is following the Shiism .In a narration attributed to the 8th Shia Imam, Ali bin Musa, he said,“ The one who is not wari (pious) has no religion and the one who does not practice Taqiyyah has no Iman ( deep faith).” So he was asked, “O grandson of the Messenger, until when (is one required to practice Taqiyyah)?” He replied, “Until a certain day (i.e. the day Imam Mahdi appears). Whoever does not practice Taqiyyah before the appearance of Imam Mahdi, is not one of us.” (Al-Ardabili, Kashf al-Ghummah , p. 341).

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            coming from a mitwali 7akir, i wont comment; when assad will be massacred soon, your turn will come inshallah

          • wargame1

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:17

            “But We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:22

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:32

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:40

            ARE YOU BRAIN DEAD??????

          • wargame1

            Yes Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets. and the best Scholors are the companions of the Prophet. So bring evidence from the sahabas first.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            It is a Book We have revealed to you abounding in good that they may ponder over its verses, and that those endowed with understanding may be mindful. (Saad 38:29)

            So to ponder and contemplate over his creations and verses is what we are meant to do but we should always first refer to reliable scholarly tafsir of the particular verses just to make sure we have a correct understanding of those verses and then we can use our own knowledge and experiences of life to ponder and contemtplate upon those verses.

        • master09

          Thank you Anti the hate is not at Islam and you, my point always it is these looney bins that give Islam a bad name, just like the 500 priest that rape little boys out of 500,000 Christian priest . Peace to those that want peace and I would be happy to be at peace with the Jews rather than war at our door step every day.

          • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

            agreed

          • wargame1

            The Shia Holy book hate speech preach that who ever differ with the Shias are subject to kill . Please read this

            “For those in our (Shia’s) State who differ with us, there is a punishment. God has made their blood Halal (permissible to be shed) when our Qa’im (Shia’s 12 imam) emerges.”( Baqir Al-Majlisi’s Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 50, p. 373)

            Explain this teaching

          • Hannibal

            The teaching is bullshit: As God said THOUGH SHALT NOT KILL!
            Your blood should be Halal… Wulak toz 3ala heyk fiker… Heathen Saracen.

          • wargame1

            Digging up the graves of the Prophet’s Sahabahs (Companions) by the 12 Imam!! We never heard such thing from the prophet or his companions but some one wrote shia holy book and preaching this for centuries

            “(When Shia’s Mahdi) Will come to Yathrib (Medina’s old name), and destroy the Al-Hujra Al-Nabawiyya (the Room of Aisha in which Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w.) was buried and later Abu Bakr and Omar were also buried there) and will dig out who is in it while they are lean and will order them to be sent to Al-Baqi and order two pieces of wood to be crucified on them…” (Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 53, p. 104 -105)

            The graves of Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq (r.a.) and Umar bin al-Khattab (r.a.) (Prophet Mohammad’s companions and successors as Caliphs) are to be dug up, and they are to be crucified and flogged in front of the crowds. Both of them will be resurrected to receive their sentences. (Ni’matullah Al-Jazairi, Al-Anwar Al-Numaniyah, Vol.2, p. 85 and Baqir Al-Majlisi, Haq al-Yaqeen, Vol. 2, p. 242)

            Isnt it sick? if you call yourself Muslims then do not follow this teaching please

          • Reasonableman

            Subhanallah an 3aqida based on hatred. They say ali r.a didnt beat up abu bakr so he doesnt start fitna between the muslims but then they go and cause fitna between the muslims the 3aqida is trash and based on hatred.

          • Btru2u

            According to he Shia version of events. Ali must have been a coward not to defend or even speak up against the caliphate that he should have taken.
            No Ali(ra) was not a coward , he told his followers to support the chosen caliphate, but it was his followers that apostates from Islam. That is the truth.

          • Reasonableman

            Ali radiallah w 3an is free from there shirk they are the cowards

          • wargame1

            “Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration.

            They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.

            Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right.” Quran 3:113-115

            I have no reason to call them Kafir as Allah in the Quran told us about them. Any innovation is an act of Kufr.

          • Hannibal

            So why do I care? Can’t you guys leave this in history and build a modern society without the stories of 1001 nights?

          • 5thDrawer

            I have a 4-volume complete unabridged of the 1839 Calcutta edition – Shahrazad had to be knowledgeable – it was worth her life. ;-)
            Certainly NOT the nicey-nice children’s tales – but largely informative of customs of a time … which many seem not to have left behind.

          • 5thDrawer

            Not only sick, a little far-fetched. I must say you ARE laying it out there very well. One up for that, wargame. ;-)

          • wargame1

            Shia’s 12 imam will Rule according to the Law of David i.e. TALMUD !!!!!!!!!!

            Muhammad ibn Ahmad attributes to Jaeed al Hamdani asking Ali ibn Al-Hussein [a.s.] (Shia’s 4th Imams): “I asked him by which law will you (the 12 Imams) rule?” Ali ibn Al-Hussein [as]: said: “By the ruling (law) of the family of David, and if we encounter something perplexing, Ruh Al- Quds ( Holy Spirit, meaning Angel Gabriel ) will solve it for us.” ( Al-Kulayni , Al-Kafi, Vol. 1, p. 397)

            can you explain this please

          • Hannibal

            That will be the day when we abide by the ruling of the family of David… We abide with the rule of the Son of Man Son of God… The ONE and ONLY yesuu3 el malak.

          • wargame1

            I agree with you but you need to be informed more about the Shia teaching against the sunnis. Here is an example. This is coming from their book so as long as this teaching continuse the problem stays

            “Take the money (meaning by stealing or rip-off) of Al-Nasib (the Sunni) wherever you find it and pay to us Al-Khums (one fifth of the money).” (Al-Tusi, Tahzeeb Al-Ahkam, Vol. 1, p. 384, Ibn Idriss, Al-Sarair p. 484, and Al-Hur Al-Amili, Wasil Al-Shia, Vol. 340, p.6)

            So you pay Khumus to your tire headed Mullahs after robbing a sunni and it is halal!!!

          • wargame1

            Shia’s Imam Mahdi will be an Anti-Arab bigot who will massacre the Arabs. The shia mullahs are creating hatred against the Arabs . Take a look…

            “There will be nothing left between us and the Arabs, except slaughter.” (Baqir Al-Majlisi, Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 349 and Al-Numani,Al-Ghaiba, p. 155)

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            inta kafer mitlak mitl al yahood

          • wargame1

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:17

            “But We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:22

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:32

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran 54:40

            NOW if you dont understand it then look for the tafsir which also compiled with hadis and the related incident when any particular verse were revealed. Bring Evident from the Quran and the hadis only. Tell us what the companions said about each verse. NO IMAM PLEASE

          • wargame1

            You need to learn that when you post a hadis or Quran verse you must give reference such as the number of the verse or the hadis book . Now look how you present hadis

            “The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said: One who interprets the Quran according to personal opinion he makes his place in fire (Hell).

            One who interprets the Quran according to his view,even though it may be right, yet he has committed a sin.”

            Where is the reference? insert the reference. Well the Quran was revealed with a span of 25 years and the most closest people who not only recorded it but also acted upon it are the Prophet and his companions and they made all record as when it was revealed and what was the circumstances etc and many hadis regarding it which are al recorded. Now your so called Imams are trying to give a new interpretation only to burn in hell. Like you said the Jews and Christians are supposedly Kafirs but you cant prove it from the Quran and the hadis then you said they deserve death penalty which also you can not prove from the hadis and from the Quran ,so will you please bring evidence from the Quran and hadis and keep those Imams aside? Why cant you say what the sahabs say about a verse? Why do you ignore the sahabas and bring those so called Imams?

          • wargame1

            In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (s) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai. It consisted of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war.

            An English translation of that document is presented below.

            “This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
            Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
            No compulsion is to be on them.
            Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
            No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.
            Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
            No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
            The Muslims are to fight for them.
            If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
            Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
            No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”

            DO YOU SEE THIS COMMANDMENT APPLIES “TILL THE LAST DAY” SO DONT CALL THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS KAFIRS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT

          • Hannibal

            However the acts of the many moslems do not follow Mohammed’s teachings… Iraq? Egypt? Lebanon? Syria? and the rest of the world. In Saudi Arabia Christians are not allowed to erect a church… Hell Swiss Air had to remove its national emblem to be allowed to land in their airports.

        • wargame1

          I have found some hate preaching in the Shia Holy Book..Here is one

          Sayid Sadr states: “Indeed, most the killings (by the 12 imam & his followers) that happen to mankind will be directed against the Muslims. Then, he (Shia’s 12 imam) will distribute a copy of his book (a new scripture, not the current Quran)…” (Sayyid Husein Al-Musawi, Li Allah Thumma Li Tarikh, p.137)

          Now explain this why your 12 imam would kill the Muslims and from where he gets his new scripture?

        • wargame1

          “Al-Muntazar (the Awaited One, meaning Shia’s 12 imam) will walk amongst the Arabs and kill them.” (Baqir Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 52, p. 318)

          So we know where you get the inspiration in killing the Arabs. Israel must be happy reading this book

        • wargame1

          Shia’s 12 imam will supposedly destroy the Ka’bah and the two Holy Mosques of Mecca and Medina including the Mosque of the prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him). Well we dont know who insert this teaching in your holy book but hey calling yourself Muslim and intending to Break the Kaaba and the Mosque of the Prophet is not normal. Please read this

          “Al-Qaim (Shia’s Mahdi) will demolish Haram Mosque (in Mecca) down to its foundation and the Messenger’s Mosque (Prophet Mohammad’s s.a.w. Mosque in Medina) down to its foundation.” (Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 52, p. 338, and Al-Tusi, Al-Ghaibah, p. 282)

          “When 12 imam rises up, he will demolish Al-Haram Mosque ( in Mecca) …’” (Al-Mufid, Al-Irshad. p. 411 and At-Tusi, Kitab al Ghaibah, p. 282)

      • wargame1

        In the whole Quran and from All the hadis of the Prophet you can find that the Christians and the Jews are called “People of the book” Ahlul Kitab. So calling them Kafir is an act of Kufr. If they are not hostile against us then we have no problem with them.

        • Btru2u

          Salaam Akihi. We don’t have to be hostile against them, but don’t give more credit than they are due. Kuffar means deniers or rejectors of the Prophet (pbuh) and the holy Quran. They hate our prophet and they hate us secretly and openly. They Are called people of the book but the book has been changed with their own hands. God curses those who change his word to suit themselves.
          That is why they will remain in ignorance, remain hard hearted , and will continue to wander in distraction with no purpose except a damned grizzly fate. Hold fast to your Islam brothers and sisters, and don’t mingle with the devils.

          • wargame1

            “Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” Quran 5:82

            “And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.”
            Quran 5:85

            The Quran is sufficient for me to get the guidance and I dont like to invent thing which has no base in Islam

          • Btru2u

            Salaams Akhi war gamer please also quote the two ayat you missed in between other wise you will not get the full meaning. Let me help you.

            Quran 5:83 “and when they listen to the revelation received by the messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray”our lord we believe;write us down amongst the witnesses.

            5:84 what cause have we not to believe in Allah, and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long for our lord to admit us to the company of the righteous”

            These verses seem to be talking about some Christians who were so moved that they became Muslims. They did not deny the truth. As a matter of fact the “sincere Jews and Christians found in the holy prophet a fulfilment of their own religion. As a generalisation , Jewish and Christian people’s as they existed in the 7th century of the Christian Era have been mainly absorbed by Islam. Remnants of them built up a nuclei. The Roman Catholic Church conquered new lands among the northern Germanic pagans and the Byzantine church among the eastern Slavonic pagans.

          • wargame1

            You should read Quran to get out of your ignorance. I dont want your definition of Kafir and if you wish to give those defination then do not invent from your ignorance rather go to the Quran and the Hadis and Quote from there as I did. Your statement has no value but the Quran and the Hadis has and that is credible source.

            There are some Qutubis who identify themselves as sunnis are the one who invent this new term ,these are Al-Qaeda secretly sponsored by Iranian Majoosis regime. Among them are Iman Al Zawaheri(SOB) these group of people mimic end time prophesy and carry black flag ,their front organization is called “Hezbuttahrir” invented by a sufi back in 1950s .these people do not believe in the punishment of the grave, reject the existance of Dajjal, Support Iranian regime as their Amir in London Omer Bakri Muhammad send their delegation to Khomenie and asked him to be the Khalifa. They have a “sharia court” in the UK under the nose of the British Government. This group has influence on Al Nusra front. They have managed to recruite the sunni foot solders and brain wash them but this group is now in trouble as they are having internal dispute. This is NOT the Black Flag holders and they will be destroyed in Syria

          • Reasonableman

            Sallam 3allaykom akhi can you send me the hadith of the black flag holders and the fake black flag holders i am at work and dont have my books with me. If you want i can send you my email or post it here sallam

          • wargame1

            There are some hadis about the Black Flag holders coming from Khorashan(Afghanistan) who will conquer Jerusalem. Several other hadis mentioned about the Black Flag but all of them applies in the end time event. But the Abbasid Dynasty exploited these hadis for political reason and used this flag during the Abbasid era in order to gain popularity.

            If you look at the current Syrian rebel flag which is the Syrians “Flag of independence” during the French invasion. Notice the color Black ,White and Green. The flag’s green colour stood for the Rashidun, white represented the Umayyad and black symbolized the Abbasid. Originally, the three red stars represented the three districts of Syria, Aleppo,Damascus, and Deir ez-Zor.

            Our Focus is on the “Black Flag” and who is behind this flag in the current conflict. I will demonstrate the Iranian connection with the Al-Qaeda Flag. Since there is a hadis of black flag the extremist group is trying to exploit the current situation. It is very difficult to challenge them as they are carrying the flag of the “Shahada” and talking about sharia! Therefore we need to do some back ground check on this group. You may watch this video where the Syrian Al Nusra spokesman says ….Shias are our brothers and we Sonnis and Shias must unite under the “Khilafah” of the Jordanian King and that the son of King Abdullah is the Mahdi! Here is the youtube link

            /watch?v=7jyYWU-6IE8

            p.s.I will post those hadis of the black flags soon as I am off to work now

          • Reasonableman

            Allah yowik brother
            The video is private. Jazakallahw5ayron

          • 5thDrawer

            The only logical Hadith possible about black is the absence of light.

          • wargame1

            I have checked the video it is gone. After the video was released there were heavy criticism so those Al-Qaeda quickly brought it down. This group will create fitnah in Syria but will be punished hard and will be destroyed inshallah. Please send your email so I will compile them all and send you. This place has too many comments already.

          • Reasonableman
          • 5thDrawer

            Maybe time you all went back and re-read the Nag Hammadi.

          • Hannibal

            LOL hahahahahahahahahaha

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            brother, you are attacking a brother in islam and unjustly so, you deserve the satour punishment for creating fitnah; you are not more knowledgeable than imam kortobi and buhayri and muslim; so please go study first and ask your imam or another ulema before uttering stupidities unless if you are practising taquyya to mislead these kouffars

          • wargame1

            imam kortobi and buhayri and many such people are not not more knowledgeable than the Prophet and his companion. So you study the Quran and the hadis and keep those imams aside. The bring evidence direct from the Quran and the hadis. Asking your Imam? Who Khomenie? Who is your Imam? Dont you have the Quran and the hadis to read? Why do we need to go to a imam? Did you make a background check of those Imams? Read from the original source i.e. The Quran and the Hadis.

          • wargame1

            Ignorance is fitnah therefore read my comment and learn the Quran and Hadis. I know your kind who jump to certain Imams and ignore the teaching of the Prophet and the Quran. Dont look for a short cut. Islam is not for the layman who gobble up everything from some so called imam and never go and check it up with the Quran and Hadis.According to the Quran the Christian and the Jews are never called Kafir so who you to tell them kafir or who is your socalled Imams who are practicing Taqyyaa? Get out from Taqyyaa

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            understanding the holy koran on your own is blasphemous; haram ya rajol

          • wargame1

            “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran54:17

            This above verse is repeated many times in Sura 54 (54:17, 54:22, 54:32 & 54:40).

            Now you say its haram to learn on my own ? Who told you that? Is it your Imam? How about Allah who said it is easy ? If you bring any reference of Islam strictly stick with the Quran and the Hadis and do not fall in to the trap of those so called Imam.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation, but none knows its’ interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding]

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            i follow picktall shakir or youssof ali not a wargamer

          • master09

            Everything to you guys is blasphemous even reading the Quran my My LORD Jesus help these poor lost soul find peace and the truth

          • master09

            It is all upside down what you think an imam has all the answers .

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            And ye know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: Be ye apes, despised and hated! Quran 2:65

            “And they say: Our hearts are hardened. Nay, but Allah hath cursed them for their unbelief. Little is that which they believe. And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession – though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved – and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. Evil is that for which they sell their souls: that they should disbelieve in that which Allah hath revealed, grudging that Allah should reveal of His bounty unto whom He will of His slaves. They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom.” Quran 2:88

            Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. Quran 3:110

          • Hannibal

            You moslems broke the Sabbath as well… It means 7 which is Saturday. Don’t you consider the Sabbath to be Friday? the 6th day of the week?

            Now riddle me this… If Mohammad was not yet born how come his father’s name was Abdullah? Wasn’t Mohammed biased to name God Allah?

            Besides when Moses asked God what is your name? He answered him I am HE with no name. Incidentally, Jesus always said I am He, and I am who I am.

            God has no name… He is God and through the Holly Spirit He walked among men as Jesus.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            sabbat ya aflaton 3asrak is too difficult for you to understand; to simplify it to your level, some consider sabbat sunday even others monday

          • 5thDrawer

            (I’m glad they left me Tuesday for the sun-tan …)

          • Hannibal

            you itching to be banned ya ayyour?

          • wargame1

            ” those of you who broke the Sabbath” they were a particular group and not all the Jews. You have brought those examples which do not apply to all jews and Christians. These are example of the wrong doers only.

          • master09

            We do not follow a man that lived and killed by the sword simple. We follow our lord who preach nothing but peace love and charity. Who is the devil the one that kills our the one that loves and spreads peace. Which one would you follow a killer or the peace maker.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            prophet mohammad PBUH did everything by order of allah

          • master09

            And he changed his mind every time it suited him. God does not change his mind he is not human as his words and deeds are forever. How. Many times did your man change hie mind when he wanted something for himselfike a women or a young girl.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            yislam hal temm, you are a wise man

          • master09

            Your not going to kiss him on the mouth are you , that is kifer.

          • 5thDrawer

            :-)))

          • Hannibal

            Strangely we say the same about you heathen…

            Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed in the beginning with God.”
            Jesus said: “Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad.”
            The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?”
            Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”

            Then He goes on saying:
            “The Father and I are one.”
            Once again the people picked up stones to kill him.
            Jesus said, “At my Father’s direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?”
            They replied, “We’re stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God.”
            Jesus shouted to the crowds, “If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me. For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me. I have come as a light to shine in this dark world, so that all who put their trust in me will no longer remain in the dark.”
            “I am the way, the truth, the life”

            Believe in Jesus for He will be back to judge you heathen…

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            when you go to beirut, no worries, i will go to the airport with an official escort to receive you; i will get you out of the plane in the diplomatic route

          • Hannibal

            tel7as

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            speaking your christian slang: manu militari

          • master09

            And tell me what evidence is there that Mohamed wrote the book. NON. But he did hold prisoner many who where scholars . That should give you a clue.

          • Btru2u

            , there is no exuses in this Information Age. You can search for the truth ,just google . The “sealed nectar(the life of the prophet”,), “science and the Quran”, and “Quran translation and commentry by yusuf Ali,” are just a few , to study the message that is the last word from The Almighty , that is easy for us to understand. Islam will take over the world brother, not by force , but through the realisation of the wisdom of its teachings. Als google “bible found in turkey”The oldest Bible (the gospel of barnabas) was found recently in turkey and it prophecies the coming of Mohammed (PBUH). Try to deny the proof that is staring you in the face. We believe if you follow the TRUE teaching of Jesus ,then you will be saved. But most Christians follow the teachings of the church. You should study for yourself if your intention is pure , you have nothing to fear and you will be protected by God. There is nothing wrong with searching for the truth. May you be guided brother .

          • 5thDrawer

            There I agree with you … but only googling is perhaps not the best way.

          • master09

            Your kidding you want me to do google your not joking rite. I am guided by the light Jesus the one and only . How has Islam grown your kidding again Muslims are becoming Christians by the millions google that one . I am not going to google an article writen by some man who translates what he wants people to hear. Google wow . You keep your prophet. Jesus was not a prophet but the light the spirit and the guiding light to eternal life. Mohamed was just a man who lived by war. Tell me he did not wage war on to people and kill thousands. Peace and Jesus the almighty will save your soul.

          • master09

            For 12 years it has been held and even they say it was written around 600 years after Jesus . So don,t get your hopes too high.

          • Constantin7

            Btru2u, you are a true muslim, bidoun laf wou dawaran. But let me, the kafir, clarify one thing to you: we christians do not hate muslims, after all your ancestors may be christians who converted to live in peace, but yes we do not believe in your prophet and hate him and hate his instructions. You and all muslims are victims of this man’s confusing and contradictory instructions. I do not expect any credit from you and do not ask for any. If you think we are in ignorance, look around you in the world and compare muslim observant societies and christian observant societies and you (the educated person – using your brain) tell me who seems / looks / is ignorant. Who is more ignorant the saudis or the germans, the afghanis or the british, the turks or the swiss, you compare….Finally if you do not want to mingle with the devils (as you consider christians as devils), then I suggest that you do not use or buy anything they produce (the cars, the tv, the phone, the cloth you are wearing, the glasses, the computer, the internet, etc…) like that you will be completely PURE from the devils we are. I pity you when I see how Islam affected you and brainwashed you and transformed you in a negative person hating anyone who is not muslim, but specifically christians and jews, who are ahlu el kitab afterall, and knew God before muslims or mohammad knew him.

        • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

          you do not understand islam brother; they are all apostates; we all all born muslims and christians and jews are apostates (by leaving islam becausetheir parents pervert them to other pagan beliefs) and deserve the death penalty

          • wargame1

            I do understand Islam from the Quran and the hadis not from some Imams. Keep you religion with you and bring evidence from the Quran and the hadis rather than beating around the bush. There are no reference in the Quran and the hadis that they are kafirs so thinking like this is an act of kufr.

          • master09

            Yes all humans are Muslims, that is a very smart thing to rite in a book for all to believe. So are you doing any killing on the non believers today. This is the only way Islam is because there are millions of Muslims who want to leave the faith but know that death waits for them . That is not a religion . This is why in the last 10 in AFRICA 60 million Muslims have become Christians . The light came to them the spirit is in their heart. While Islam is by force. Take the haram and the death from leaving Islam and see what will happen. In Iran you g people by thousands are now praying secretly with Christian after leaving Islam. Go figure if you say death to those who leave and off course people will shit their pants. Lol but it was a good law he told them to write. Because he wrote Nothing .

      • wargame1

        “Those who have caused schism (splitting or division) in their religion and they have become Shia (sects or groups), you (Prophet Mohammad) are not one of them in any way. Their case (for judgment & punishment) is up to Allah. Then, He (Allah) will tell (confront) them about what they used to do.” (Quran 6:159)

        The Shias themselves separated from the main stream Islam and all these small sects such as shia sufi alawite drugi, kadiani ismayli etc are 7% combined. They do not grow but the sunni Islam grow and the sunni islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet. Allah will expose those who identify themselves as Muslims and destroy islam from within.

      • wargame1

        “Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” Quran 5:82

        “And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.”
        Quran 5:85

        • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

          Muslim scholars and commentator of Quran are unanimous on the view that no one has the right to interpret the ayats of Quran according to ones personal view and opinion. Many traditions are narrated in this regard. We present below a few examples of the same:

          1. The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said: One who interprets the Quran according to personal opinion he makes his place in fire (Hell).

          2. One who interprets the Quran according to his view,even though it may be right, yet he has committed a sin.

      • LEBANON101

        god dosnt even know who u r

        • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

          allah knoweth it all

          • wargame1

            Bring evidence from those translation and there are Tafsir of the Quran too. Allah gave us gurantee that the Quran is easy so dont tell me about those Imams. Tell us what the companions of the prophet used to learn from the prophet and what the prophet used to teach them. NO IMAM

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            The Quran has two kinds of verses. Some of them are decisive, clear and fundamental. They need no interpretation, as they are clear and easy to understand. They should be taken to mean what we find stated in them.

            There are, in the Quran, some allegorical verses as well. No one should try to interpret them in order to understand their true or close-to-true meaning. Attempting to interpret them is what Allah has called to be a perversity in the hearts of those who seek to do so, as their meaning is known only to Him. No matter how hard we humans try, we can never decipher their true import and meaning.

            Instead of trying to understand what was, or still remains, within Allah’s knowledge, those Muslims who are knowledgeable should contend themselves by saying: We believe in it [both the decisive and fundamental verses as well as the allegorical ones], it is all from Allah and that this belief is enough for us to retain our faith in Him and in what He has revealed to us through His Quran.

            In other words, Allah has prohibited all the humans from interpreting the Quran. This restriction applies more stringently to the Muslims. They should never try to interpret anything that the Quran contains for, attempting to do so would prove that they are perverts and perverts Allah did not like in the past, nor is He going to like them in future.

            Perverts and those who mislead the Muslims will become, on the Day of Judgment, the fire of Hell. The Quran is clear on this point.

          • Constantin7

            It amuses me to read the back and forth between you and wargame, Btru2u and Reasonableman. Of course all this means nothing to me, however a point drew my attention when you say: “Some verses of the Quran are allegorical and no one should try to understand them or interpret them”, otherwise “they will be perverts and going to burn in the fire of Hell”.
            Now my comment: God gave us a brain to use it. All studies say that humans use 2 to 3% of their brain. What sort of God dictates to mohammad verses that are incomprehensible to humans ? These verses are intended to humans and for humans, aren’t they ? What is the point of giving verses that nobody understands and nobody should question ? These incomprehensible verses and the forbidness of interpreting them (trying to understand them) is a flagrant proof that they are not from God. God gave us our brain to use INFINITELY, not to limit its use. Islam is limiting muslims from using their brains, hence muslims and arabs in particular are the least educated people on earth. Muslims have contributed nothing to the human civilization in the last 1000 years. They did contribute at the time of the Ommeyyads and Abbasites dynasties because plenty of christians and jews lived among them in bilad Al-Sham and bilad ma bayn al-nahrayn.
            Wargame: When you say take the good out of the Quran and Hadith and leave the bad…..How can there be good and bad in a book that is supposed to be from God ? Anything from God should be always good. How could a surah eliminate another contradictory surah ? Did God make a mistake in the first Surah ? Another proof that the Quran cannot be from God.
            What you stated about christians and jews in the Quran may be true, but as you said : you took the good and rejected the bad.
            Another proof that Islam is not “al-tariq al-mostaquim”, this specific discussion among you 3 or 4 muslims who do not agree on Islam. Each one of you has his own interpretation of Islam and at the end Allahu Aalam who is right …..!!!!
            Meaning Islam has planted the seeds of confusion and division amongst you, anything from GOD is clear and obvious without any shadow of a doubt, anything from the devil is confusing, causing division, not clear, disturbing, causes rift and wars and hate, because evil feeds on evil. Anything from God creates instant peace, salam, love, honesty, clarity, simplicity, and assurance….not wa allahu aalam !!!!!
            May you all see and experience the love, light, simplicity, and assurance that Jesus Christ gives you when you accept him as your lord and savior.

          • Reasonableman

            Im sure you meant me i am the one who sad take the good and leave the bad and what i meant and why i said it like that is because it is common what puts his own ooint of view into a matter so everything good Is from god everything bad is opinion

          • 5thDrawer

            But reasonably then, not all opinion is bad, and not all good is from God. ;-)

          • Reasonableman

            Islam is perfect there is no room for opinion in its doctrines, opinion anywhere else is welcomed when not deficit or in other words cons outweight pros.
            For somebody who sits on the news all day im sure you know what i mean, they say it in courtrooms all the time behind the perfect lie is alot of truth. So when you have a pure teaching and then add a little spice(opinion) to suit your needs , it can come off to some people as the truth

          • 5thDrawer

            Now you’re being unreasonable. You must hate that I’m retired and can waste hours doing this or bouncing around the news-sites. :-)
            But YES, great propaganda, as with great fiction, must be Very close to the truth. Otherwise it wouldn’t be believable. (Fairy-tales are for entertainment value only.)
            “Truth is eternal, knowledge is changeable. It is disastrous to confuse them.” – Madeleine L’Engle
            Perfection is perhaps only for God … however, in finding those ‘rules’ difficult for us, do you think someone may have slightly altered the 10 commandments a little – to suit the occasion, shall we say, a few more times?
            Close, but no cigar?
            “Striving for perfection is the greatest stopper there is… It’s your excuse to yourself for not doing anything. Instead, strive for excellence, doing your best.” – Sir Laurence Olivier
            The propagandist alters … and then presents the new as verifiably better truth.
            I’m sure you remember the book ‘Animal Farm’.
            We are largely the horse … we try our best … in all circumstances. We consider the grains of truth, but like the horse have trouble remembering exactly … AND YET, as the movie ‘The Matrix’ noted; “There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.”
            So, I go back to Aristotle – who has his own little place in the Nag Hammadi curiously enough – and one of my personal favourite quotes:
            “A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious… they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side.”

          • Reasonableman

            Dude now your being unreasonable i didnt say nobody should strive for their best ofcourse the can its there intention to do good most of the time somestimes they have an understanding of something different or even forgotten somethings but they think that they havnt which may cause that opinion or statement to be abrupt. There is always room for people to gain knowledge and we dont go locking up or killing him because he spoke his opinion we take the good aand leave the bad and bring him back to the straight path through knowledge. Lol yes i do hate it you and anti both try to find ways to push different motives into a statement i have made which i myself havnt even thought about. Ahwell thats the internet to much doctors on here.

          • 5thDrawer

            Hehehe .. Sounds reasonable. ;-))) Enjoy. :-)

          • Hannibal

            Islam is perfect? Hmmmmm. So why is it that all moslem countries are so fuçked up? Ah yes Israel…

          • master09

            That is why you will always be in the dark and blind to truth according to you God does not want you to know the whole truth how can that be. God gives words for people to follow not to put under the mattress. Jesus wanted the world to hear the word of God every one of them. How can a book be all truth when you can not read it all and understand it all. Only Jesus will give you the truth. May he save all of the lost people’s souls.

          • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

            Master, can I just ask why you keep responding to these fools. You keep mentioning Jesus (PBUH) to them. They don’t believe in him, They only believe in hadith written by some dickhead. You would be better off talking to a brick wall. At the very least, the response would make more sense. When you mention Jesus (PBUH) to these fools, sorry to say, however I feel he is being degraded.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            shuddup you yahoudi

          • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

            Learn to communicate properly before you respond stupid. You do know what communicate means rite. Ask one of your extremist brothers to help if you don’t. Actually don’t, their way of communicating is with an AK 47.

          • MossadAgent

            one is proud to be yahoodi; ask the king of saudi arabia

          • Hannibal

            What is wrong in being yahoudi? It is better than being a 5th column…

          • 5thDrawer

            Haram haram …. (clearing throat) … YOU should remember that then.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            you need to clear your mind and soul

          • MossadAgent

            by snorting

          • MossadAgent

            can you snort by blocking a nostril with your thumb?

          • wargame1

            Perverts and those who mislead the Muslims will always take the back door approach like Hey you wont be able to understand these verses let me make easy for you…..,so you need to go to some Imam right ?

            How about the Prophet and his companion ? Didnt they recite the Quran and act upon it. The Quran was revealed with a span of 25 years and those Sahabas has practical experience and they have noted down all the incident relevant to the verse.

            When you said the Jews and Christians are kafir and will have death penalty ” it clearly shows your perverseness and possibly your pervert Imam from whom you learn, Prove it from the Quran and the Hadis there is nothing hidden about those verse about the Jews and the Christians as the People of the Book.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            rasulullah PBUH said: Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets. [Tirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Nasai, and others]

          • Reasonableman

            Brother take the good from the teachings and throw out the bad dont limit yourself to what one or two imams say go and read and seek knowledge, ive read and believe in some of qutubis books he has some real good stuff even sheikh al albani quotes from him but only the stuff that isnt molested with opinion. I agree with wargamer that ahlul kitab means christians and jews its clear as day light in saying that it doesnt mean every single one akhi there are same bad and some good ones ya ayuhal nabi la ta2ta5oozoo fil nasara wal yahud owliya2, they are people to make peace with but before them comes your rub your family your ummah trust allah when in practise you cant go wrong.

          • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

            meaning dont befriend christians and jews

          • Reasonableman

            “And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender.” S. 29:46

          • MossadAgent

            except when you need us we the jews

          • wargame1

            “Reliable scholarly tafsir” ARE from the sahabas. Which is the most reliable because they learned it from the Prophet and they were there in every incident. The Quran didnt fall from the sky like a book ,it took 25 years to complete and the sahabas are the witness of all the incident when those verse were revealed and why. They made note on every incident so we dont invent new things from some imam rather we learn it from the sahabas who are the best scholors
            Now tell me which Sahaba said about Jews and christians are kafir and which verse they use in the Quran. There are NONE because the Jews and the Christians are NEVER called Kafir rather a word People of the Book was used. Dont bring the Tafsir from Al-Qaeda

        • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

          No LEBANON101, gods does know very well who they are. After all God gave man the vision to create a Zoo so they can have some where warm to sleep. What a generous God he is.

          • LEBANON101

            the shia in lebanon are phoneican who converted to Christianity then to shia islam. they fled to the south after facing persecution by newly established sunni caliphates. in that time more Christians and and shias converted to sunni. up until recent times shia and maronited have gotten together very well and to this day their is no issues between the chritians and shia in the south and bekka valley. other than political differences . so to say lebanon is a sunni country is a very dumb thing

          • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

            It will never become a Sunni country. It should be a country for all to live in and have peace. (A little electricity wouldn’t hurt either) The Christians, Shia and Alawites will kick theirs asses if they even try to sing that song. The funny thing about it is they know to well that this will be the outcome if they try. I tell you what though, it would be funny to see them try.

          • MossadAgent

            you need to read Tanach; looks like quran

      • Hannibal

        Time for another Crusade and let us see who the kouffar are? You got a beating in Afghanistan… Are you itching for another?

        • MossadAgent

          you christians are cowards, foufou zouzou and toutou; i see you are like a toutou

          • Hannibal

            You are the same “agent” who calls himself sunniWAbass, MossadAgent, SunnaRepublic, etc. etc. You are the guy Hariri and Geagea sexually abused in some kind of an orgy and became disillusioned with your own identity. So every other day you come back to create a “fitna”. You are nothing but a fart bag low life scum. Get a life will you?

  • nagy_michael2

    28 hezbollah fighters died but how many rebels died also? I think the rebels are weakend and down. The arabs are helpless and cannot help them. Supplies are not reaching the rebels and according to Al Akhabar Newspaper once the rebels are pretty much tamed. The next war will turn against Israel. this will force the rebel not to fight further the Syrian army. and in return they will be called traitors and also the army of the sunnis sect would feel more obliged to fight Israel. Syrian rulers will make sure the sunnis are the front first and foremost. Israel, Iran and Syria will turn the gulf in flames for sure.. This summer is going to be 1000000 Fahrenheit and more I am afraid. While Obama and the arabs are just feeding and send arms to the rebels is not enough. If the US and the arabs have created air zone where they shoot down syrian jets. The war would have been won by the rebels eventually. Too late now and all parties will get what they want in return. Bashar will still be in power but he will not forget who dealt against him..so sad story ending..

  • nagy_michael2

    28 hezbollah fighters died but how many rebels died also? I think the rebels are weakend and down. The arabs are helpless and cannot help them. Supplies are not reaching the rebels and according to Al Akhabar Newspaper once the rebels are pretty much tamed. The next war will turn against Israel. this will force the rebel not to fight further the Syrian army. and in return they will be called traitors and also the army of the sunnis sect would feel more obliged to fight Israel. Syrian rulers will make sure the sunnis are the front first and foremost. Israel, Iran and Syria will turn the gulf in flames for sure.. This summer is going to be 1000000 Fahrenheit and more I am afraid. While Obama and the arabs are just feeding and send arms to the rebels is not enough. If the US and the arabs have created air zone where they shoot down syrian jets. The war would have been won by the rebels eventually. Too late now and all parties will get what they want in return. Bashar will still be in power but he will not forget who dealt against him..so sad story ending..

  • Reasonableman

    The founder of shias nane is abdullah ibn saba a jew, ofcourse there doctrines are directly from the talmud. He was a jew whose motive was to cause fitna between muslims to destroy them as was the jewish practise from the time of islam until now.

  • Reasonableman

    The founder of shias nane is abdullah ibn saba a jew, ofcourse there doctrines are directly from the talmud. He was a jew whose motive was to cause fitna between muslims to destroy them as was the jewish practise from the time of islam until now.

    • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

      abdallah ibn saba3 was a jew who fled medina al mouawwara when Prophet Mohamed PBUH cleaned it from jews; he and his gang claimed to be muslim to escape from the Prophets sword and founed shiism; the father of ayatollah khomeini was yahood from englandi ; the actual iranian president comes from yahoodi father…… google it please

  • 5thDrawer

    How many today?

    • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

      you seem sadistic enjoying to count death, then you accuse islam

      • 5thDrawer

        Isn’t it all about ‘body counts’?? On all the sides, of course.
        Don’t want to play favourites.
        Same as ‘more of us, less of them’ sort of thing. Everybody is doing it.

        • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

          the difference is that you keep on calling the others big names like idiots criminals terrorists…while you are behaving worse; another lesson for the future

          • 5thDrawer

            WAR is idiocy. A lesson of life. I won’t say it’s a good thing anytime, anywhere. And thus, those who happily run off to do it are idiots. My opinion, of course.
            The ones who simply get dragged in for self-defence may be a little less stupid.

      • MossadAgent

        we are counting on you when we attack khizbolla; king of saudi arabia said you will attack khizbolla from inside (assir, geagea khariri and annusra)

  • 5thDrawer

    How many today?

    • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

      you seem sadistic enjoying to count death, then you accuse islam

      • 5thDrawer

        Isn’t it all about ‘body counts’?? On all the sides, of course.
        Don’t want to play favourites.
        Same as ‘more of us, less of them’ sort of thing. Everybody is doing it.

        • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

          the difference is that you keep on calling the others big names like idiots criminals terrorists…while you are behaving worse; another lesson for the future

          • 5thDrawer

            WAR is idiocy. A lesson of life. I won’t say it’s a good thing anytime, anywhere. And thus, those who happily run off to do it are idiots. My opinion, of course.
            The ones who simply get dragged in for self-defence may be a little less stupid.

      • MossadAgent

        we are counting on you when we attack khizbolla; king of saudi arabia said you will attack khizbolla from inside (assir, geagea khariri and annusra)

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    This is to remind all our readers to respect the community. Comments that contain personal attacks or inappropriate language will be removed.

    • AntiFSA

      Yalibnan, this will always be the result when extremist are commenting on this blog.

      • 5thDrawer

        Freedom of Expression, Anti … freedom of expression. ;-)

        • MossadAgent

          unidirectional freedom of expression is notorious amongst you arabs

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    • http://twitter.com/AntiFSA AntiFSA

      Yalibnan, this will always be the result when extremist are commenting on this blog.

      • 5thDrawer

        Freedom of Expression, Anti … freedom of expression. ;-)

        • MossadAgent

          unidirectional freedom of expression is notorious amongst you arabs

  • Ahle Bayti

    The civilians were given forewarning to leave the city. It seems the Al Nusra Front did not let them leave Qusayr so the people could be used as human shields? Otherwise why not let them go?

    • 5thDrawer

      Sure Ahle …. think about it … a little ‘corridor’ to a refugee camp in Lebanon?
      ‘The people’ – it HAS been said – were afraid of what the Shabiha and Hezzy would do to them while the Syrian Army looked the other way … a trap is a trap … and you could be too old or too young to walk that line in the first place. Where were the ‘evacuation busses’ overseen by the UN and the Red Cross ??

  • Ahle Bayti

    The civilians were given forewarning to leave the city. It seems the Al Nusra Front did not let them leave Qusayr so the people could be used as human shields? Otherwise why not let them go?

    • 5thDrawer

      Sure Ahle …. think about it … a little ‘corridor’ to a refugee camp in Lebanon?
      ‘The people’ – it HAS been said – were afraid of what the Shabiha and Hezzy would do to them while the Syrian Army looked the other way … a trap is a trap … and you could be too old or too young to walk that line in the first place. Where were the ‘excavation busses’ overseen by the UN and the Red Cross ??

  • wargame1

    ” Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book (The Christians and the Jews) are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration.

    They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.

    Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right ” Quran 3:113-115

  • Hannibal

    You moslems broke the Sabbath as well… It means 7 which is Saturday. Don’t you consider the Sabbath to be Friday? the 6th day of the week?

    Now riddle me this… If Mohammad was not yet born how come his father’s name was Abdullah? Wasn’t Mohammed biased to name God Allah?

    Besides when Moses asked God what is your name? He answered him I am HE with no name. Incidentally, Jesus always said I am He, and I am who I am.

    God has no name… He is God and through the Holly Spirit He walked among men as Jesus.

  • wargame1

    ” those of you who broke the Sabbath” they were a particular group and not all the Jews. You have brought those examples which do not apply to all jews and Christians. These are example of the wrong doers only.

  • wargame1

    imam kortobi and buhayri and many such people are not not more knowledgeable than the Prophet and his companion. So you study the Quran and the hadis and keep those imams aside. The bring evidence direct from the Quran and the hadis. Asking your Imam? Who Khomenie? Who is your Imam? Dont you have the Quran and the hadis to read? Why do we need to go to a imam? Did you make a background check of those Imams? Read from the original source i.e. The Quran and the Hadis.

  • wargame1

    Ignorance is fitnah therefore read my comment and learn the Quran and Hadis. I know your kind who jump to certain Imams and ignore the teaching of the Prophet and the Quran. Dont look for a short cut. Islam is not for the layman who gobble up everything from some so called imam and never go and check it up with the Quran and Hadis.According to the Quran the Christian and the Jews are never called Kafir so who you to tell them kafir or who is your socalled Imams who are practicing Taqyyaa? Get out from Taqyyaa

  • master09

    It is all upside down what you think an imam has all the answers .

  • wargame1

    I do understand Islam from the Quran and the hadis not from some Imams. Keep you religion with you and bring evidence from the Quran and the hadis rather than beating around the bush. There are no reference in the Quran and the hadis that they are kafirs so thinking like this is an act of kufr.

  • master09

    Yes all humans are Muslims, that is a very smart thing to rite in a book for all to believe. So are you doing any killing on the non believers today. This is the only way Islam is because there are millions of Muslims who want to leave the faith but know that death waits for them . That is not a religion . This is why in the last 10 in AFRICA 60 million Muslims have become Christians . The light came to them the spirit is in their heart. While Islam is by force. Take the haram and the death from leaving Islam and see what will happen. In Iran you g people by thousands are now praying secretly with Christian after leaving Islam. Go figure if you say death to those who leave and off course people will shit their pants. Lol but it was a good law he told them to write. Because he wrote Nothing .

  • wargame1

    “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?” Quran54:17

    This above verse is repeated many times in Sura 54 (54:17, 54:22, 54:32 & 54:40).

    Now you say its haram to learn on my own ? Who told you that? Is it your Imam? How about Allah who said it is easy ? If you bring any reference of Islam strictly stick with the Quran and the Hadis and do not fall in to the trap of those so called Imam.

  • master09

    Everything to you guys is blasphemous even reading the Quran my My LORD Jesus help these poor lost soul find peace and the truth

  • wargame1

    Bring evidence from those translation and there are Tafsir of the Quran too. Allah gave us gurantee that the Quran is easy so dont tell me about those Imams. Tell us what the companions of the prophet used to learn from the prophet and what the prophet used to teach them. NO IMAM

  • 5thDrawer

    Haram haram …. (clearing throat) … YOU should remember that then.

  • wargame1

    Perverts and those who mislead the Muslims will always take the back door approach like Hey you wont be able to understand these verses let me make easy for you…..,so you need to go to some Imam right ?

    How about the Prophet and his companion ? Didnt they recite the Quran and act upon it. The Quran was revealed with a span of 25 years and those Sahabas has practical experience and they have noted down all the incident relevant to the verse.

    When you said the Jews and Christians are kafir and will have death penalty ” it clearly shows your perverseness and possibly your pervert Imam from whom you learn, Prove it from the Quran and the Hadis there is nothing hidden about those verse about the Jews and the Christians as the People of the Book.

  • wargame1

    “Reliable scholarly tafsir” ARE from the sahabas. Which is the most reliable because they learned it from the Prophet and they were there in every incident. The Quran didnt fall from the sky like a book ,it took 25 years to complete and the sahabas are the witness of all the incident when those verse were revealed and why. They made note on every incident so we dont invent new things from some imam rather we learn it from the sahabas who are the best scholors
    Now tell me which Sahaba said about Jews and christians are kafir and which verse they use in the Quran. There are NONE because the Jews and the Christians are NEVER called Kafir rather a word People of the Book was used. Dont bring the Tafsir from Al-Qaeda

  • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

    you need to clear your mind and soul

  • MossadAgent

    can you snort by blocking a nostril with your thumb?

  • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

    The Quran has two kinds of verses. Some of them are decisive, clear and fundamental. They need no interpretation, as they are clear and easy to understand. They should be taken to mean what we find stated in them.

    There are, in the Quran, some allegorical verses as well. No one should try to interpret them in order to understand their true or close-to-true meaning. Attempting to interpret them is what Allah has called to be a perversity in the hearts of those who seek to do so, as their meaning is known only to Him. No matter how hard we humans try, we can never decipher their true import and meaning.

    Instead of trying to understand what was, or still remains, within Allah’s knowledge, those Muslims who are knowledgeable should contend themselves by saying: We believe in it [both the decisive and fundamental verses as well as the allegorical ones], it is all from Allah and that this belief is enough for us to retain our faith in Him and in what He has revealed to us through His Quran.

    In other words, Allah has prohibited all the humans from interpreting the Quran. This restriction applies more stringently to the Muslims. They should never try to interpret anything that the Quran contains for, attempting to do so would prove that they are perverts and perverts Allah did not like in the past, nor is He going to like them in future.

    Perverts and those who mislead the Muslims will become, on the Day of Judgment, the fire of Hell. The Quran is clear on this point.

  • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

    rasulullah PBUH said: Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets. [Tirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Nasai, and others]

  • Reasonableman

    Brother take the good from the teachings and throw out the bad dont limit yourself to what one or two imams say go and read and seek knowledge, ive read and believe in some of qutubis books he has some real good stuff even sheikh al albani quotes from him but only the stuff that isnt molested with opinion. I agree with wargamer that ahlul kitab means christians and jews its clear as day light in saying that it doesnt mean every single one akhi there are same bad and some good ones ya ayuhal nabi la ta2ta5oozoo fil nasara wal yahud owliya2, they are people to make peace with but before them comes your rub your family your ummah trust allah when in practise you cant go wrong.

  • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

    meaning dont befriend christians and jews

  • Reasonableman

    “And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender.” S. 29:46

  • MossadAgent

    except when you need us we the jews

  • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

    sabbat ya aflaton 3asrak is too difficult for you to understand; to simplify it to your level, some consider sabbat sunday even others monday

  • master09

    And he changed his mind every time it suited him. God does not change his mind he is not human as his words and deeds are forever. How. Many times did your man change hie mind when he wanted something for himselfike a women or a young girl.

  • 5thDrawer

    (I’m glad they left me Tuesday for the sun-tan …)

  • Hannibal

    you itching to be banned ya ayyour?

  • Constantin7

    It amuses me to read the back and forth between you and wargame, Btru2u and Reasonableman. Of course all this means nothing to me, however a point drew my attention when you say: “Some verses of the Quran are allegorical and no one should try to understand them or interpret them”, otherwise “they will be perverts and going to burn in the fire of Hell”.
    Now my comment: God gave us a brain to use it. All studies say that humans use 2 to 3% of their brain. What sort of God dictates to mohammad verses that are incomprehensible to humans ? These verses are intended to humans and for humans, aren’t they ? What is the point of giving verses that nobody understands and nobody should question ? These incomprehensible verses and the forbidness of interpreting them (trying to understand them) is a flagrant proof that they are not from God. God gave us our brain to use INFINITELY, not to limit its use. Islam is limiting muslims from using their brains, hence muslims and arabs in particular are the least educated people on earth. Muslims have contributed nothing to the human civilization in the last 1000 years. They did contribute at the time of the Ommeyyads and Abbasites dynasties because plenty of christians and jews lived among them in bilad Al-Sham and bilad ma bayn al-nahrayn.
    Wargame: When you say take the good out of the Quran and Hadith and leave the bad…..How can there be good and bad in a book that is supposed to be from God ? Anything from God should be always good. How could a surah eliminate another contradictory surah ? Did God make a mistake in the first Surah ? Another proof that the Quran cannot be from God.
    What you stated about christians and jews in the Quran may be true, but as you said : you took the good and rejected the bad.
    Another proof that Islam is not “al-tariq al-mostaquim”, this specific discussion among you 3 or 4 muslims who do not agree on Islam. Each one of you has his own interpretation of Islam and at the end Allahu Aalam who is right …..!!!!
    Meaning Islam has planted the seeds of confusion and division amongst you, anything from GOD is clear and obvious without any shadow of a doubt, anything from the devil is confusing, causing division, not clear, disturbing, causes rift and wars and hate, because evil feeds on evil. Anything from God creates instant peace, salam, love, honesty, clarity, simplicity, and assurance….not wa allahu aalam !!!!!
    May you all see and experience the love, light, simplicity, and assurance that Jesus Christ gives you when you accept him as your lord and savior.

  • master09

    That is why you will always be in the dark and blind to truth according to you God does not want you to know the whole truth how can that be. God gives words for people to follow not to put under the mattress. Jesus wanted the world to hear the word of God every one of them. How can a book be all truth when you can not read it all and understand it all. Only Jesus will give you the truth. May he save all of the lost people’s souls.

  • AntiFSA

    Master, can I just ask why you keep responding to these fools. You keep mentioning Jesus (PBUH) to them. They don’t believe in him, They only believe in hadith written by some dickhead. You would be better off talking to a brick wall. At the very least, the response would make more sense. When you mention Jesus (PBUH) to these fools, sorry to say, however I feel he is being degraded.

  • Reasonableman

    Im sure you meant me i am the one who sad take the good and leave the bad and what i meant and why i said it like that is because it is common what puts his own ooint of view into a matter so everything good Is from god everything bad is opinion

  • SunnaRepublicOfLebanon

    shuddup you yahoudi

  • AntiFSA

    Learn to communicate properly before you respond stupid. You do know what communicate means rite. Ask one of your extremist brothers to help if you don’t. Actually don’t, their way of communicating is with an AK 47.

  • MossadAgent

    one is proud to be yahoodi; ask the king of saudi arabia

  • Hannibal

    What is wrong in being yahoudi? It is better than being a 5th column…

  • 5thDrawer

    But reasonably then, not all opinion is bad, and not all good is from God. ;-)

  • master09

    Your not going to kiss him on the mouth are you , that is kifer.

  • Reasonableman

    Islam is perfect there is no room for opinion in its doctrines, opinion anywhere else is welcomed when not deficit or in other words cons outweight pros.
    For somebody who sits on the news all day im sure you know what i mean, they say it in courtrooms all the time behind the perfect lie is alot of truth. So when you have a pure teaching and then add a little spice(opinion) to suit your needs , it can come off to some people as the truth

  • 5thDrawer

    :-)))

  • 5thDrawer

    Now you’re being unreasonable. You must hate that I’m retired and can waste hours doing this or bouncing around the news-sites. :-)
    But YES, great propaganda, as with great fiction, must be Very close to the truth. Otherwise it wouldn’t be believable. (Fairy-tales are for entertainment value only.)
    “Truth is eternal, knowledge is changeable. It is disastrous to confuse them.” – Madeleine L’Engle
    Perfection is perhaps only for God … however, in finding those ‘rules’ difficult for us, do you think someone may have slightly altered the 10 commandments a little – to suit the occasion, shall we say, a few more times?
    Close, but no cigar?
    “Striving for perfection is the greatest stopper there is… It’s your excuse to yourself for not doing anything. Instead, strive for excellence, doing your best.” – Sir Laurence Olivier
    The propagandist alters … and then presents the new as verifiably better truth.
    I’m sure you remember the book ‘Animal Farm’.
    We are largely the horse … we try our best … in all circumstances. We consider the grains of truth, but like the horse have trouble remembering exactly … AND YET, as the movie ‘The Matrix’ noted; “There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.” (they worked the horse to death)
    So, I go back to Aristotle – who has his own little place in the Nag Hammadi curiously enough – and one of my personal favourite quotes:
    “A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious… they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side.”

  • Hannibal

    Islam is perfect? Hmmmmm. So why is it that all moslem countries are so fuçked up? Ah yes Israel…

  • MossadAgent

    by snorting

  • Reasonableman

    Dude now your being unreasonable i didnt say nobody should strive for their best ofcourse the can its there intention to do good most of the time somestimes they have an understanding of something different or even forgotten somethings but they think that they havnt which may cause that opinion or statement to be abrupt. There is always room for people to gain knowledge and we dont go locking up or killing him because he spoke his opinion we take the good aand leave the bad and bring him back to the straight path through knowledge. Lol yes i do hate it :-) you and anti both try to find ways to push different motives into a statement i have made which i myself havnt even thought about. Ahwell thats the internet to much doctors on here. With opinions.

  • 5thDrawer

    Hehehe .. Sounds reasonable. ;-))) Enjoy. :-)