Syrian Rebels Capture Air Base Near Damascus

Syrian rebels captured a helicopter base just outside Damascus Sunday in what an activist called a “blow to the morale of the regime” near President Bashar Assad’s seat of power.

The takeover claim showed how rebels are advancing in the area of the capital, though they are badly outgunned, making inroads where Assad’s power was once unchallenged. Rebels have also been able to fire mortar rounds into Damascus recently.

The director of the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Rami Abdul-Rahman, said rebels seized control of the Marj al-Sultan base on the outskirts of Damascus on Sunday morning. He said at least 15 rebels and eight soldiers were killed in the fighting that started a day earlier. The rebels later withdrew from the base.

Rebels appear to be trying to take over air bases and destroy aircraft in order to prevent the regime from using them in attacks against opposition forces around the country.

The rebels have no protection against the attack helicopters and fighter jets that have been blasting their positions.

Rebels have been attacking air bases in different parts of Syria, mostly in the northern regions of Idlib and Aleppo.

In the battle at the base outside Damascus, Abdul-Rahman and Damascus-based activist Maath al-Shami said rebels destroyed two helicopters with rocket propelled grenades and captured a tank. They say the base, which is on the eastern outskirts of Damascus, houses several radar positions.

“This is a blow to the morale of the regime, because it is close to the heart of the capital,” said Abdul-Rahman, referring to the base that is about 15 kilometers (10 miles) from Damascus.

Al-Shami said the rebels withdrew from the base after they captured some ammunition. He said they feared counterstrikes by regime aircraft.

An amateur video posted online showed rebels walking next to two destroyed helicopters. At least three other helicopters appeared undamaged. Black smoke billowed in the distance.

Another video showed several radar posts on hills inside the large compound. Parked military trucks stood inside as rebels roamed freely.

The activist videos appeared genuine and corresponded to other AP reporting about the events depicted. Syria restricts the access of reporters.

The Observatory also reported violence in other parts of Syria, including the country’s largest city of Aleppo in the north and the capital itself.

It said rebels on Sunday captured a training base for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command near the Damascus suburb of Douma. The PFLP-GC is one of the Palestinian factions most loyal to Assad.

The PFLP-GC said in a statement late Saturday that the base was under attack. It said that thousands of activists and fighters who fought against Israel were trained at the base over the past 30 years.

Also Sunday, the Observatory said a bomb targeted a bus in the southern village of Othman, killing at least five people and wounding dozens. It said rebels and troops clashed in the southern region of Quneitra on the edge of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

The Local Coordination Committees, another activist group, said residents found 12 bodies in the Damascus suburb of Daraya, scene of heavy clashes between rebels and government troops over the past few days.

State TV said troops clashed with al-Qaida militants in Daraya, killing some of them and confiscating a mortar that they were using in their attacks.

The station said that troops killed an al-Qaida affiliated Palestinian militant known as Abu Suhaib in the Damascus suburb of Hajira. It said his group was behind several bombings in Syria that killed and wounded dozens of people.

Assad’s regime blames the revolt on a foreign conspiracy. It accuses Saudi Arabia and Qatar, along with the United States, other Western countries and Turkey, of funding, training and arming the rebels, whom it calls terrorists.

Syria’s conflict erupted in March 2011 with an uprising against President Bashar Assad’s regime, inspired by other Arab Spring revolts. It quickly morphed into a civil war that has since killed more than 40,000 people, according to activists.

 

ABC/ AP

 

  • breakthemould

    Some of these rebel successes are a bit out of character considering limited training they are supposed have had. Could it be that the British SAS is giving a lending hand? As well as American and who knows who else. Some of these success are spectacular to say the least. Any input from any one else?

    • wargame1

      Allah helps the Mujaheddin and the help can come in any form. During the Soviet Afghan war it was Allah who helped the mujaheddin in defeating the Russians. 

      Certainly there were plenty of European arms given to the mujaheddin. That also happened by the will of Allah.The victory was given by Allah. The Non Muslims can take credit for supplying arms but it is Allah who made the mujaheddin victorious against the Russians.

      The argument for the non Muslim is it was Europeans who helped the Mujaheddin win against the Russian. Yes true but it happened by the will of Allah. The Europeans who once helped the Afghans gathered 70+ countries and attacked those mujaheddin but after 11 years of fighting they are unable to defeat the mujaheddin and that is happening by the will of Allah. Here those mujaheddin are not getting any stinger missile like those days rather they are facing a huge army much more stronger than Russia. The current Afghan war brought all the European countries,Russia,America,Iran,India on the same platform against the Taliban. Now you may bring the argument here that who is helping the Afghan Mujaheddin?

      It is Allah who help them. Take notice about the Chechen Mujaheddin ,Iraqi Mujaheddin and Syrian Mujaheddin and their effort with small arms. Throughout the history the trend was always the same. When ever the Muslims are oppressed  the help of Allah is there and military might of the wrongdoer can only help them prolonged the war to face the eventual defeat.  

      If you want to study the Muslim war then one of the best example can be “battle of Yarmouk” (google it for more information) when the 40000 Muslim fighters in Syria fought against the well equiped Roman 250000 strong and defeated the Romans under the command of Khalid Ibn Walid. 

      The following verse of the Quran states it beautifully

      ” (O Unbelievers!) if ye prayed for victory and judgment, now hath the judgment come to you: if ye desist (from wrong), it will be best for you: if ye return (to the attack), so shall We. Not the least good will your forces be to you even if they were multiplied: for verily Allah is with those who believe!” Quran 8:19

       “The Unbelievers spend their wealth to hinder (man) from the path of Allah, and so will they continue to spend; but in the end they will have (only) regrets and sighs; at length they will be overcome: and the Unbelievers will be gathered together to Hell;-” Quran 8:36

      Please note that the unbelievers are those who disobey the commandments of Allah and they can be any one including Muslims.So do not take it personally. All these invasions were based upon lie and deceit and this war in Syria is also unjust therefore the wrath of Allah will be fall on every party of wrong doer sooner or later.

      A great example of the help of Allah to the Bani Israel against the mighty Egyptian ferro is a lesson to all mankind.

      • breakthemould

         Wargames you are living in another planet. Where was Allah when the children of Gaza were being killed. Why did Allah not save them? Was it the will of Allah that they die or get hurt. Some wisdom in Allah’s wish? They have not lived yet or committed a sin as quiet a lot of them were babies. Not yet had time to commit a sin. I should be most grateful for a rational or in any way convincing reply. Thank you

        • FreetheME

          Breakthemould, it all depends on which Allah you are talking about. If you are referring to the Allah that Wargame believes in, then he also goes by the names of Lucifer, Satan and Dajjal.And yes just to answer your Question, Wargame most defiantly lives on another planet. Which BTW is not even in our solar system. lol 
           

        • wargame1

          The world is a testing ground and here if the Punishment of Allah comes instantly then the world would be like heaven where there would be no crime and people would not dare to commit any crime. 

          The world is a transitory place and the hereafter is eternal. Now when we see the crime being committed and nothing happens to the criminal and start asking ” where was Allah” then it makes us unbeliever. Now if you see the Syrian slaughter by Assad thugs then you may ask the same question but look at those families who lots their children and relatives what they say?

          They say Allah Hu Akhbar, or Hasbunallah wa neimal wakil . Here is the difference between the people of faith and disbelief. They endure and pray and their men fight against the tyrant. The hereafter is the ultimate destination so when ever we pass away from the transitory world the eternal journey begins and the one with faith and righteous deed prevail. This is faith and you can bring any logic to refute it but it wont work because if with worldly logic with out limited imagination could penetrate the truth of the hereafter then we wouldnt have any non believer. 

          How do you know that you have brain in your head? an you see it? this is a simple example of faith. The criminals are given respite to pile up their crime and at the same time let the believer put their trust on Allah and Allah will make them victorious in the world and in the hereafter.Yo are not obliged to agree with it but this is how the Muslim faith works. I live in this planet but with a faith which is unique and no one is oblige to follow it.

          At the moment the fastest growing religion on the planet is Islam where woman reverts to Islam more than man! This is a phenomena  in Europe ,America or else where. You will find people with high education revert to Islam i.e. Mainstream Sunni Islam which is 93% worldwide.

          You have some important question and suggest you to read the Quran where you will have answer and yes the wisdom of Allah is not readily comprehensible. faith is reinforced by the teaching from the Quran and from the Hadis i.e. Saying of the prophet.

          Let us observe the Syrian revolution and within 3 years you will have few answers of your questions inshallah.

      • Moe28

        Mujiahdeen = Al Qaeda garbage
        Inshallah they will be wiped of this planet because they are all murderers. That kill and behead anyone that is not Wahhabi.

        • FreetheME

          Don’t worry brother, every dog has its day. Only a matter of time.

        • Hannibal

          How are you going to wipe them… They are 85% of the Moslem world… I am interested. 

        • wargame1

          Mujaheddin will punish the Al-qaeda which is run by Iranian Majoosis ans this Syrian regime. The Mujaheddin has nothing to gain by beheading journalist but the majoosis and the invading pigs have some thing to gain by demonizing the resistance and legitimizing the illegal invasion . Dont play too much Al Qaeda as Bashar tried to play. You dont have any other reason to attack so you need to manufacture one. Well you are loosing any way . 

        • wargame1

          THE COMING ATTACK ON IRAN ACCORDING TO THE PROPHET
          Abdullah bin Masud said that the Prophet(Peace be upon him) said: ” Between the Muslims and the Romans, there will be a Hudna (truce) and reconciliation treaty to the extent that they will fight together against their  enemy (probably Russia)and they (Muslims & Romans) will split the war acquisitions.  Then, the Romans with the Muslims will invade Persia (Iran).” (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          Please note than there are several hadis regarding Iran attack and I have read all of them. This will happen after the advent of Al Mahdi. In short after defeating Iran the Roman and the Muslim will have a dispute over war booty and the Romans will break the treaty then gather 80 banner against the Muslims and each banner will have 10-12000 solders andthey will invade greater Syria where the final battle between the Romans and the Muslims will happen. 

          This one single hadis is not enough to know the clear picture but it is worth noting that Muslims and the Romans will jointly attack Iran. End of Majoosi regime Inshallah.

        • nagy_michael2

          Al Qaada garbage who are trained and stationed in Iran. If Al Qaada was outraged at the Syrian regime they would have protested everywhere. And did you forget Al Qaada garbage who used to be trained and allowed to use Syria against the US in Iraq and at the same time bomb Shiites holy places and market areas? you can curse al qaada all you like but Syria and Iran been in bed with them for a long time and still to some extents. Al Qaada have thousands of fighters and if they want to send to Syria, the war would be even more favorite of Syrian rebels. WHo is fighting i Sahra desert? its al Qaada trained and equiped by Iran? who is fighting along Hamas in Palestine? Muslims extremists whom they rely heavily on Iran and hezbollah for arms and training.  so they’re garbage when they’re against your sweethearts but not when they’re killing somebody else..

        • Moe28

           @nagy_michael2:disqus  @hbarca:disqus  Al Qaeda is funded by Saudi Wahhabi Arabia that is a fact they  are mostly Saudi Wahhabi. I have no problem with Sunni’s but i do have a problem with Wahhabi’s that want to kill Shia.

        • nagy_michael2

          Moe28 I am not against Shiites and I am not Pro M14 either. I am just pointing out facts what hezbollah has been doing since 2005. No one can dispute and deny them their scarifices in the South. But just because you have done that it doesn’t give you say so and be the rulers of Lebanon and kill everyone who do not agree with you. Please spare me the denial part I am not going to believe that israel is behind all these assasinations of M14. Syria publicly been threatening them before and they have committed to these threats by killing them thru hezbollah. Let’s face it hariri was going to work behind Syria and was trying to marginalize hezbollah. they didn’t want any of it. yes he was supporter of hezbollah in the beginning  but I am sure hezbollah would not do him just because he was only anti-syrian regime. Iran is big player and these guys without its approval and its major planning in these attacks. they denied too much syrian interference. Yet they keep saying we’re there and even admitted to be lebanon for a long time. They even boast that Hezbollah is their right arm basically. no one is against the shiites as a sect and I am totally against salfists and wahabis period. even lots of sunnis do not like them but they’re scared of them just like some Shiites are apprehensive of hezbollah and you can deny it all you like. all we want is for the killing to stop.. No one wants a shiites controlled gov’t and I don’t want a Christian controlled gov’t either. let it be proportional and balanced. As Christians we need assurance from the majority of Shiites and Sunnis and other non-christians that we will not be denied our homeland. either we will fight back unlike other christians in ME area. 

      • Hannibal

        You Say: “During the Soviet Afghan war it was Allah who helped the mujaheddin in defeating the Russians. ” 
        Everyone knows the Americans helped the Mujahidiin to defeat the Soviets NOT the Russians and win the cold war… God wages no wars… 
        As for the story about Allah and bani Israel, be assured that the Israelis were never in Egypt… There is absolutely NO record that they were ever there. The Israelis already know it… The Koran plagiarized from the Torah those stories which turned out to be myth. Spare me Noah putting on a ship all the species of the earth… Even a U.S. warship plane carrier won’t hold 1% of the species of the Earth.
        God is not in your books…
        He is in the heart of men… Look there and through love you will find Him.
        Now since you like to read, read the following:
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/staks-rosch/the-biblical-exodus-story-is-fiction_b_1408123.html
        Comments are welcome…

        • wargame1

          “Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;And there is none like unto Him.”Quran112

          Say “La Ilaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah”  i.e. There is No one worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is His messenger.
          No one die for others sin and we must not look for a scapegoat for our sin , thats a criminal thinking and open the ways of committing sin without feeling guilty.

        • wargame1

          The following hadis has some unique point of the Christian Muslim truce in order to attack their common enemy

          Zu Mukhammar said I heard the Messenger of Allah(Peace be upon him) say, ” You will make a Hudna (Truce Agreement) with the Romans (Europeans), and together you and them will invade an enemy (located) behind you. You will be victorious, take much booty, and you will leave. Then, you will camp on a hilly pasture. When one of the Romans will approach (the Muslim army), raise a cross and says “The Cross has won”, one of the Muslims will get angry and take off the Cross. Then, the Romans will trick (bluff or deceive) you, and gather (prepare) for the Malhama (War). They will gather an army against you and come against you with eighty banners, each banner followed by 10,000 (or 12,000) men.” (Ahmad, Abu Dawud, and Ibn Majah)

          According to the Hadis there will be 4 treaty with the Romans and the Romans will break four of them and Attack the Muslims later. One of those treaty  is to attack Iran and Russia. 

          The breaking of truce after the Soviet Afghan war and the future breaking of the truce after defeating Iran have the same consequence. The Roman will break the truce and attack the Muslims.  As far as I know there are more than 70+ countries coalition force attacked the Afghan mujaheddin. 

          Now you may expect a “reconciliation” between the Romans and the Muslims where the Romans will ask for a truce to attack Iran and Russia. Please remember that American administration is totally owned by the Russian Jews from the get go. Thats why the Americans are Roman too but they are unable to function due to the influence of the Khazars. 

          Please remember the word “reconciliation”

        • wargame1

          The “reconciliation” it clearly indicates that there were truce and then it was broken and again it was restored.

          Abdullah bin Masud said that the Prophet(peace be upon him) said : ” Between the Muslims and the Romans, there will be a Hudna (truce) and reconciliation treaty to the extent that they will fight together against their  enemy (probably Russia)and they (Muslims & Romans) will split the war acquisitions.  Then, the Romans with the Muslims will invade Persia (Iran).” (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          Yunus bin Saif Al-Khulani said: ” You will reconcile with the Romans through a reconciliation treaty. Then, together, you will invade the (lands of the) Turks (possibly Russia) and Kerman (a region currently in Iran) and Allah will  conquer them for you…”  (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          It is not clear on how this event will unfold but before this event happen there will be another event which might trigger this and that is called a “Eastern Fitna” coming from Iran on the Arabs where the Arabs will be humiliated similarly the Syrian sunnis. 

          Iran and the Syrian regime is secretly planning to invade Saudi Arabia and the other oil rich nation and once they try this the Sunni majority army will be free from the command of the puppet rulers just like in Syria and there will be a total mess in this region where the Roman interest will be affected. This situation possibly will force the Romans to reconcile and punish Russia and Iran.

          There are much more about this and when the time is near I will bring them on Inshallah. 

        • wargame1

          We the Muslim believe the events of Noa(peace be upon him) and Boni Israel and we rely on Quran and the additional information from the Bible provided it agree with the Quran and the Hadis. Since you are not a Muslim you will have all these thoughts and I am not interested to make useless argument on this matter.And you must try to stick to one point rather than jumping here and there. I can deal with all the false allegation you bring but it is worth for me to tell those who have a open mind to accept the truth or I can invest this time to watch some video on how the Mujaheddin kicking some butts in Syria.You must believe as they way you want and that will have no effect on the Muslim belief not a least bit.

        • wargame1

          Among the functions of Yahweh called into play by Israel’s needs, the leading place in the earlier times was held by war…Hence, Yahweh is constantly represented as a war-god. He it is who marches at the head of Israel’s armies (Deut. 33:27); his right arm brings victory to Israel’s banners (Exod. 15:6); Israel’s wars are “the wars of Yahweh” himself (Num. 21:14; I Sam. 18:17, 25:28); Israel’s obligation is to “come to the help of Yahweh, to the help of Yahweh against the mighty” (Judg. 5:23); Israel’s enemies are Yahweh’s enemies (Judg. 5:31; I Sam. 30:26); Yawheh is Israel’s sword and shield (Deut. 33:29); yea, he is a “a man of war” (Exod. 15:3) As the leader of a nation of war, Yahweh was credited with the military practices of the day.  He shrank not from drastic and cruel measures. Indeed, he lent his name and influence to the perpetration of such deeds of barbarity…Yahweh orders the total extermination of clans and towns, including man, woman, and child (I Sam. 15:3; Josh 6:17 f.).

        • wargame1

          This is what Bible tells us about God and the war
          Yahweh is a mighty warrior who defeated Pharaoh at the Red Sea…God appeared to Pharaoh as a mighty warrior, carrying a fiery bow, with a sword of lightning, traveling through the heavens in a chariot…God took a cherub from His Throne fo Glory and rode upon it, waging war against Pharaoh and Egypt, as it is said, He mounted a cherub and flew (Ps. 18:11). Leaping from one wing to another, God taunted Pharaoh, “O evil one, do you have a cherub? Can you do this?”
          When the angels saw that God was waging war against the Egyptians on the sea, they came to His aid. Some came carrying swords and others carrying bows or lances. God said to them, “I do not need your aid, for when I go to battle, I go alone.” That is why it is said that Yahweh is a man of war (Exod. 15:3).
          Now you find some garbage in huffington post and want me to wast my time reading those nonsense? When did huffington post become your latest version of Bible?

        • 5thDrawer

          Wargame’s problem is that he keeps reading those damn ‘super-books’ and is, like many others, taking it all literally and trying to make poetic prophecies come true. Jason’s quest for the golden fleece and Homer’s Illiad and Odyssey could just as well become the religious bases for some …. they ARE wonderful stories too. Even if no-one has ever seen a Hydra, it might have existed at one time …. right?
          ;-)

        • Hannibal

          @5thDrawer:disqus Wargame spammed me overnight that I almost converted to wahabism… ;)
          Woke up to find a slew of emails waiting for me… By the time I was done reading I felt like an imam.
          BTW Welcome back!

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/QUHCMQH262LEGPZCMEGORVMP2I Preview

           I read the article u linked and all i can say LMFAO.
          Are you serious???
          That was your proof? Give us something more scientific than some guy who thinks it might possibly maybe be not true.
          Btw i’m starting to think u r one of the most racist people on this blog but u tend to hide it better than most.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/QUHCMQH262LEGPZCMEGORVMP2I Preview

          Btw wargame tends to make more sense than either u or 5th, except maybe for the part about the religion.
          I don’t think religion should b brought into matters as it complicates matters but each to his/her own.
          The part that is incredible is you people attack him/her personally but yet wargame never does the same in return and that is a big plus in wargame’s favor.
          Maybe you and 5th and others should take a leaf out of wargame’s book.

        • Hannibal

          @yahoo-QUHCMQH262LEGPZCMEGORVMP2I:disqus ah ya preview ya psychologist enta ya wa7esh… How so racist? Because I expose your religious myth and lies? Give me one race I spoke against… Arabs? It is not a race, may be a culture… Islam? It is not a race but a religion… But you my Preview Sunni compatriot Lebanese you my friend are hiding behind your finger… ba2uuse I see you.
          That being said, I can show you proof in Lebanon that the Phoenicians existed some 3000 years BC… Show me ONE trace of Judaic evidence in Egypt and I will yield… OH YES THAT simple… I have been studying the history of the Middle East for a long time to know what is true and what is not… and I only accept the truth if it is backed by archeological evidence… 
          As for the Noah story pullleaaase enlighten me… 10,000,000 species pairs in a single boat… Oh yeah right… Now the fun part: What if the pair had all females for offsprings… Hmmmmm an entire species annihilated…

          Now answer me that: I am just curious…
          How on Earth was the name of the father of Mohammed Abd allah before Mohammed was born… How convenient that His name is Allah…
          As for Yahweh does Wargame know where the name came from? wu 7terna, is His name Yahwe or Allah?
          Riddle me this Riddle me that… But grow up already…

      • FreetheME

        Wargame, I read a hadith that the avengers including Superman, Batman, and Spiderman as well as the Fantastic 4 will come and save man kind from an evil so destructive that just the thought of this evil would make the strongest man shit himself. You know where I read this hadith, It’s called Hollywood, the very same place your mind is when you start typing. You are a poor soul.

        • wargame1

          You have seen them in cartoon TV series. Do not be frustrated rather take the hadis as a reference so when it start to happen then you will forget those cartoon .

  • breakthemould

    Some of these rebel successes are a bit out of character considering limited training they are supposed have had. Could it be that the British SAS is giving a lending hand? As well as American and who knows who else. Some of these success are spectacular to say the least. Any input from any one else?

    • wargame1

      Allah helps the Mujaheddin and the help can come in any form. During the Soviet Afghan war it was Allah who helped the mujaheddin in defeating the Russians. Certainly there were plenty of European arms given to the mujaheddin. That also happened by the will of Allah.The victory was given by Allah. The Non Muslims can take credit for supplying arms but it is Allah who made the mujaheddin victorious against the Russians.
      The argument for the non Muslim is it was Europeans who helped the Mujaheddin win against the Russian. Yes true but it happened by the will of Allah. The Europeans who once helped the Afghans gathered 70+ countries and attacked those mujaheddin but after 11 years of fighting they are unable to defeat the mujaheddin and that is happening by the will of Allah. Here those mujaheddin are not getting any stinger missile like those days rather they are facing a huge army much more stronger than Russia. The current Afghan war brought all the European countries,Russia,America,Iran,India on the same platform against the Taliban. Now you may bring the argument here that who is helping the Afghan Mujaheddin? It is Allah who help them. Take notice about the Chechen Mujaheddin ,Iraqi Mujaheddin and Syrian Mujaheddin and their effort with small arms. Throughout the history the trend was always the same. When ever the Muslims are oppressed  the help of Allah is there and military might of the wrongdoer can only help them prolonged the war to face the eventual defeat.  If you want to study the Muslim war then one of the best example can be “battle of Yarmouk” (google it for more information) when the 40000 Muslim fighters in Syria fought against the well equiped Roman 250000 strong and defeated the Romans under the command of Khalid Ibn Walid. The following verse of the Quran states it beautifully” (O Unbelievers!) if ye prayed for victory and judgment, now hath the judgment come to you: if ye desist (from wrong), it will be best for you: if ye return (to the attack), so shall We. Not the least good will your forces be to you even if they were multiplied: for verily Allah is with those who believe!” Quran 8:19 “The Unbelievers spend their wealth to hinder (man) from the path of Allah, and so will they continue to spend; but in the end they will have (only) regrets and sighs; at length they will be overcome: and the Unbelievers will be gathered together to Hell;-” Quran 8:36Please note that the unbelievers are those who disobey the commandments of Allah and they can be any one including Muslims.So do not take it personally. All these invasions were based upon lie and deceit and this war in Syria is also unjust therefore the wrath of Allah will be fall on every party of wrong doer sooner or later.

      • breakthemould

         Wargames you are living in another planet. Where was Allah when the children of Gaza were being killed. Why did Allah not save them? Was it the will of Allah that they die or get hurt. Some wisdom in Allah’s wish? They have not lived yet or committed a sin as quiet a lot of them were babies. Not yet had time to commit a sin. I should be most grateful for a rational or in any way convincing reply. Thank you

        • FreetheME

          Breakthemould, it all depends on which Allah you are talking about. If you are referring to the Allah that Wargame believes in, then he also goes by the names of Lucifer, Satan and Dajjal.And yes just to answer your Question, Wargame most defiantly lives on another planet. Which BTW is not even in our solar system. lol 
           

        • wargame1

          The world is a testing ground and here if the Punishment of Allah comes instantly then the world would be like heaven where there would be no crime and people would not dare to commit any crime. 

          The world is a transitory place and the hereafter is eternal. Now when we see the crime being committed and nothing happens to the criminal and start asking ” where was Allah” then it makes us unbeliever. Now if you see the Syrian slaughter by Assad thugs then you may ask the same question but look at those families who lots their children and relatives what they say?

          They say Allah Hu Akhbar, or Hasbunallah wa neimal wakil . Here is the difference between the people of faith and disbelief. They endure and pray and their men fight against the tyrant. The hereafter is the ultimate destination so when ever we pass away from the transitory world the eternal journey begins and the one with faith and righteous deed prevail. This is faith and you can bring any logic to refute it but it wont work because if with worldly logic with out limited imagination could penetrate the truth of the hereafter then we wouldnt have any non believer. 

          How do you know that you have brain in your head? an you see it? this is a simple example of faith. The criminals are given respite to pile up their crime and at the same time let the believer put their trust on Allah and Allah will make them victorious in the world and in the hereafter.Yo are not obliged to agree with it but this is how the Muslim faith works. I live in this planet but with a faith which is unique and no one is oblige to follow it.

          At the moment the fastest growing religion on the planet is Islam where woman reverts to Islam more than man! This is a phenomena  in Europe ,America or else where. You will find people with high education revert to Islam i.e. Mainstream Sunni Islam which is 93% worldwide.

      • Moe28

         Mujiahdeen = Al Qaeda garbage
        Inshallah they will be wiped of this planet because they are all murderers.

        • FreetheME

          Don’t worry brother, every dog has its day. Only a matter of time.

        • Hannibal

          How are you going to wipe them… They are 85% of the Moslem world… I am interested. 

        • wargame1

          Mujaheddin will punish the Al-qaeda which is run by Iranian Majoosis ans this Syrian regime. The Mujaheddin has nothing to gain by beheading journalist but the majoosis and the invading pigs have some thing to gain by demonizing the resistance and legitimizing the illegal invasion . Dont play too much Al Qaeda as Bashar tried to play. You dont have any other reason to attack so you need to manufacture one. Well you are loosing any way . 

        • wargame1

          THE COMING ATTACK ON IRAN ACCORDING TO THE PROPHET
          Abdullah bin Masud said that the Prophet(Peace be upon him) said: ” Between the Muslims and the Romans, there will be a Hudna (truce) and reconciliation treaty to the extent that they will fight together against their  enemy (probably Russia)and they (Muslims & Romans) will split the war acquisitions.  Then, the Romans with the Muslims will invade Persia (Iran).” (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          Please note than there are several hadis regarding Iran attack and I have read all of them. This will happen after the advent of Al Mahdi. In short after defeating Iran the Roman and the Muslim will have a dispute over war booty and the Romans will break the treaty then gather 80 banner against the Muslims and each banner will have 10-12000 solders andthey will invade greater Syria where the final battle between the Romans and the Muslims will happen. 

          This one single hadis is not enough to know the clear picture but it is worth noting that Muslims and the Romans will jointly attack Iran. End of Majoosi regime Inshallah.

        • nagy_michael2

          Al Qaada garbage who are trained and stationed in Iran. If Al Qaada was outraged at the Syrian regime they would have protested everywhere. And did you forget Al Qaada garbage who used to be trained and allowed to use Syria against the US in Iraq and at the same time bomb Shiites holy places and market areas? you can curse al qaada all you like but Syria and Iran been in bed with them for a long time and still to some extents. Al Qaada have thousands of fighters and if they want to send to Syria, the war would be even more favorite of Syrian rebels. WHo is fighting i Sahra desert? its al Qaada trained and equiped by Iran? who is fighting along Hamas in Palestine? Muslims extremists whom they rely heavily on Iran and hezbollah for arms and training.  so they’re garbage when they’re against your sweethearts but not when they’re killing somebody else..

        • Moe28

           @nagy_michael2:disqus  @hbarca:disqus  Al Qaeda is funded by Saudi Wahhabi Arabia that is a fact they  are mostly Saudi Wahhabi. I have no problem with Sunni’s but i do have a problem with Wahhabi’s that want to kill Shia.

        • nagy_michael2

          Moe28 I am not against Shiites and I am not Pro M14 either. I am just pointing out facts what hezbollah has been doing since 2005. No one can dispute and deny them their scarifices in the South. But just because you have done that it doesn’t give you say so and be the rulers of Lebanon and kill everyone who do not agree with you. Please spare me the denial part I am not going to believe that israel is behind all these assasinations of M14. Syria publicly been threatening them before and they have committed to these threats by killing them thru hezbollah. Let’s face it hariri was going to work behind Syria and was trying to marginalize hezbollah. they didn’t want any of it. yes he was supporter of hezbollah in the beginning  but I am sure hezbollah would not do him just because he was only anti-syrian regime. Iran is big player and these guys without its approval and its major planning in these attacks. they denied too much syrian interference. Yet they keep saying we’re there and even admitted to be lebanon for a long time. They even boast that Hezbollah is their right arm basically. no one is against the shiites as a sect and I am totally against salfists and wahabis period. even lots of sunnis do not like them but they’re scared of them just like some Shiites are apprehensive of hezbollah and you can deny it all you like. all we want is for the killing to stop.. No one wants a shiites controlled gov’t and I don’t want a Christian controlled gov’t either. let it be proportional and balanced. As Christians we need assurance from the majority of Shiites and Sunnis and other non-christians that we will not be denied our homeland. either we will fight back unlike other christians in ME area. 

      • Hannibal

        You Say: “During the Soviet Afghan war it was Allah who helped the mujaheddin in defeating the Russians. ” 
        Everyone knows the Americans helped the Mujahidiin to defeat the Soviets NOT the Russians and win the cold war… God wages no wars… 
        As for the story about Allah and bani Israel, be assured that the Israelis were never in Egypt… There is absolutely NO record that they were ever there. The Israelis already know it… The Koran plagiarized from the Torah those stories which turned out to be myth. Spare me Noah putting on a ship all the species of the earth… Even a U.S. warship plane carrier won’t hold 1% of the species of the Earth.
        God is not in your books…
        He is in the heart of men… Look there and through love you will find Him.
        Now since you like to read, read the following:
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/staks-rosch/the-biblical-exodus-story-is-fiction_b_1408123.html
        Comments are welcome…

        • wargame1

          “Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;And there is none like unto Him.”Quran112

          Say “La Ilaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah”  i.e. There is No one worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is His messenger.
          No one die for others sin and we must not look for a scapegoat for our sin , thats a criminal thinking and open the ways of committing sin without feeling guilty.

        • wargame1

          The following hadis has some unique point of the Christian Muslim truce in order to attack their common enemy

          Zu Mukhammar said I heard the Messenger of Allah(Peace be upon him) say, ” You will make a Hudna (Truce Agreement) with the Romans (Europeans), and together you and them will invade an enemy (located) behind you. You will be victorious, take much booty, and you will leave. Then, you will camp on a hilly pasture. When one of the Romans will approach (the Muslim army), raise a cross and says “The Cross has won”, one of the Muslims will get angry and take off the Cross. Then, the Romans will trick (bluff or deceive) you, and gather (prepare) for the Malhama (War). They will gather an army against you and come against you with eighty banners, each banner followed by 10,000 (or 12,000) men.” (Ahmad, Abu Dawud, and Ibn Majah)

          According to the Hadis there will be 4 treaty with the Romans and the Romans will break four of them and Attack the Muslims later. One of those treaty  is to attack Iran and Russia. 

          The breaking of truce after the Soviet Afghan war and the future breaking of the truce after defeating Iran have the same consequence. The Roman will break the truce and attack the Muslims.  As far as I know there are more than 70+ countries coalition force attacked the Afghan mujaheddin. 

          Now you may expect a “reconciliation” between the Romans and the Muslims where the Romans will ask for a truce to attack Iran and Russia. Please remember that American administration is totally owned by the Russian Jews from the get go. Thats why the Americans are Roman too but they are unable to function due to the influence of the Khazars. 

          Please remember the word “reconciliation”

        • wargame1

          The “reconciliation” it clearly indicates that there were truce and then it was broken and again it was restored.

          Abdullah bin Masud said that the Prophet(peace be upon him) said : ” Between the Muslims and the Romans, there will be a Hudna (truce) and reconciliation treaty to the extent that they will fight together against their  enemy (probably Russia)and they (Muslims & Romans) will split the war acquisitions.  Then, the Romans with the Muslims will invade Persia (Iran).” (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          Yunus bin Saif Al-Khulani said: ” You will reconcile with the Romans through a reconciliation treaty. Then, together, you will invade the (lands of the) Turks (possibly Russia) and Kerman (a region currently in Iran) and Allah will  conquer them for you…”  (Nuaim ibn Hammad’s Kitab al-Fitan)

          It is not clear on how this event will unfold but before this event happen there will be another event which might trigger this and that is called a “Eastern Fitna” coming from Iran on the Arabs where the Arabs will be humiliated similarly the Syrian sunnis. 

          Iran and the Syrian regime is secretly planning to invade Saudi Arabia and the other oil rich nation and once they try this the Sunni majority army will be free from the command of the puppet rulers just like in Syria and there will be a total mess in this region where the Roman interest will be affected. This situation possibly will force the Romans to reconcile and punish Russia and Iran.

          There are much more about this and when the time is near I will bring them on Inshallah. 

        • wargame1

          We the Muslim believe the events of Noa(peace be upon him) and Boni Israel and we rely on Quran and the additional information from the Bible provided it agree with the Quran and the Hadis. Since you are not a Muslim you will have all these thoughts and I am not interested to make useless argument on this matter.And you must try to stick to one point rather than jumping here and there. I can deal with all the false allegation you bring but it is worth for me to tell those who have a open mind to accept the truth or I can invest this time to watch some video on how the Mujaheddin kicking some butts in Syria.You must believe as they way you want and that will have no effect on the Muslim belief not a least bit.

        • wargame1

          Among the functions of Yahweh called into play by Israel’s needs, the leading place in the earlier times was held by war…Hence, Yahweh is constantly represented as a war-god. He it is who marches at the head of Israel’s armies (Deut. 33:27); his right arm brings victory to Israel’s banners (Exod. 15:6); Israel’s wars are “the wars of Yahweh” himself (Num. 21:14; I Sam. 18:17, 25:28); Israel’s obligation is to “come to the help of Yahweh, to the help of Yahweh against the mighty” (Judg. 5:23); Israel’s enemies are Yahweh’s enemies (Judg. 5:31; I Sam. 30:26); Yawheh is Israel’s sword and shield (Deut. 33:29); yea, he is a “a man of war” (Exod. 15:3) As the leader of a nation of war, Yahweh was credited with the military practices of the day.  He shrank not from drastic and cruel measures. Indeed, he lent his name and influence to the perpetration of such deeds of barbarity…Yahweh orders the total extermination of clans and towns, including man, woman, and child (I Sam. 15:3; Josh 6:17 f.).

        • wargame1

          This is what Bible tells us about God and the war
          Yahweh is a mighty warrior who defeated Pharaoh at the Red Sea…God appeared to Pharaoh as a mighty warrior, carrying a fiery bow, with a sword of lightning, traveling through the heavens in a chariot…God took a cherub from His Throne fo Glory and rode upon it, waging war against Pharaoh and Egypt, as it is said, He mounted a cherub and flew (Ps. 18:11). Leaping from one wing to another, God taunted Pharaoh, “O evil one, do you have a cherub? Can you do this?”
          When the angels saw that God was waging war against the Egyptians on the sea, they came to His aid. Some came carrying swords and others carrying bows or lances. God said to them, “I do not need your aid, for when I go to battle, I go alone.” That is why it is said that Yahweh is a man of war (Exod. 15:3).
          Now you find some garbage in huffington post and want me to wast my time reading those nonsense? When did huffington post become your latest version of Bible?

        • 5thDrawer

          Wargame’s problem is that he keeps reading those damn ‘super-books’ and is, like many others, taking it all literally and trying to make poetic prophecies come true. Jason’s quest for the golden fleece and Homer’s Illiad and Odyssey could just as well become the religious bases for some …. they ARE wonderful stories too. Even if no-one has ever seen a Hydra, it might have existed at one time …. right?
          ;-)

        • Hannibal

          @5thDrawer:disqus Wargame spammed me overnight that I almost converted to wahabism… ;)
          Woke up to find a slew of emails waiting for me… By the time I was done reading I felt like an imam.
          BTW Welcome back!

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/QUHCMQH262LEGPZCMEGORVMP2I Preview

           I read the article u linked and all i can say LMFAO.
          Are you serious???
          That was your proof? Give us something more scientific than some guy who thinks it might possibly maybe be not true.
          Btw i’m starting to think u r one of the most racist people on this blog but u tend to hide it better than most.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/QUHCMQH262LEGPZCMEGORVMP2I Preview

          Btw wargame tends to make more sense than either u or 5th, except maybe for the part about the religion.
          I don’t think religion should b brought into matters as it complicates matters but each to his/her own.
          The part that is incredible is you people attack him/her personally but yet wargame never does the same in return and that is a big plus in wargame’s favor.
          Maybe you and 5th and others should take a leaf out of wargame’s book.

        • Hannibal

          @yahoo-QUHCMQH262LEGPZCMEGORVMP2I:disqus ah ya preview ya psychologist enta ya wa7esh… How so racist? Because I expose your religious myth and lies? Give me one race I spoke against… Arabs? It is not a race, may be a culture… Islam? It is not a race but a religion… But you my Preview Sunni compatriot Lebanese you my friend are hiding behind your finger… ba2uuse I see you.
          That being said, I can show you proof in Lebanon that the Phoenicians existed some 3000 years BC… Show me ONE trace of Judaic evidence in Egypt and I will yield… OH YES THAT simple… I have been studying the history of the Middle East for a long time to know what is true and what is not… and I only accept the truth if it is backed by archeological evidence… 
          As for the Noah story pullleaaase enlighten me… 10,000,000 species pairs in a single boat… Oh yeah right… Now the fun part: What if the pair had all females for offsprings… Hmmmmm an entire species annihilated…

          Now answer me that: I am just curious…
          How on Earth was the name of the father of Mohammed Abd allah before Mohammed was born… How convenient that His name is Allah…
          Riddle me this Riddle me that… But grow up already…

      • FreetheME

        Wargame, I read a hadith that the avengers including Superman, Batman, and Spiderman as well as the Fantastic 4 will come and save man kind from an evil so destructive that just the thought of this evil would make the strongest man shit himself. You know where I read this hadith, It’s called Hollywood, the very same place your mind is when you start typing. You are a poor soul.

        • wargame1

          You have seen them in cartoon TV series. Do not be frustrated rather take the hadis as a reference so when it start to happen then you will forget those cartoon .

  • Hannibal

    Ok now this is GOOD news… Can you fly them though? he he

    • Mahdi Kenaani

      i think they can… dont you remember 9/11?

      • Hannibal

        Good idea… Now fly them into qasr el sha3eb in Damascus…

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          if arabs want to kill each other then be my geust… just leave peace loving ppl like me alone

      • Hannibal

        The only thing I like about you Mahdi is the fact that you are not an Arab… Canaan rules…

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          thanks i guess

    • wargame1

      The warrior God in the Bible
      In addition to Exodus 15:3, Yahweh is a man of war, God is described as a warrior in Psalm 24: Who is the King of glory–Yahweh, mighty and valiant, Yahweh, valiant in battle (Ps. 24:8).  Frank Moore Cross finds in this passage a strong echo of the Canaanite pattern, in which both El and Ba’al are described as warrior gods.
      Yahweh was a warrior God (Exod. 5:3, Isa. 42:13)…The Israelites, quite like the pre-Islamic Arabs, even carried their God with them into conflict on occasion (Num. 10:35-36).

    • wargame1

      More war in the Bible

      The Ark of the Covenant is the symbol and banner of God’s presence in battle (1 Sam. 4:4, 2 Sam. 11:11), and this connection between the Ark and the presence of God in war is made already in the desert in Num.10:35: “When the Ark was to set out, Moses would say: Advance O Lord!  May your enemies be scattered and may your foes flee before you!”  The Ark is like a battle station from which God fights for Israel and, although not mentioned in every battle, probably went forth often and is referred to in passing as a regular part of the battle array (Jud. 4:14).  The Philistine army was terrified of the Ark itself and related to the Ark as if it were the very appearance of God (1 Sam. 4:5-8)

    • wargame1

      The Bible’s Yahweh, a War-God?: Called “Lord of Armies” Over 280 Times in the Bible and “Lord of Peace” Just Once (I) i.e. Yahweh-Shalom (The Lord is Peace): 1 time

      Exodus 15:3 The Lord is a man of war; the Lord is His Name.Of note aside from the obvious “man of war” appellation is that Yahweh is depicted as a man who is actually physically on the battlefield as a warrior, instead of merely helping from afar. “The Lord will fight for you” (Ex. 14:14) is meant to be taken very literally.

    • wargame1

      You are preaching God wage no war but your Bible says just the opposite
      saiah 42:13 The Lord will march forward like a warrior.  He will arouse His zeal like a man of war.  He will utter a shout, yes, He will raise a war cry.  He will prevail against all His enemies.
      God was not just any warrior, but the best of them–victorious in battle:
      Psalm 24:8 Who is the King of Glory?  The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle.
      He would prove his might in battle by crushing the heads of his enemies:
      68:21 Surely God will crush the heads of his enemies.

      • Hannibal

        I do not believe in the bible… It is a Jewish mythology rewritten… and Wargame really you are a lunatic… your words are exactly why Islam is so screwed up. Kill this and attack this and wipe those people and Yahweh was fighting and the angels came to his aid and battle this and battle that… If this is your definition of god he is NO god of mine… My God is a peace loving God, forgiving and loving… Your god is a blood thirsty bastard… So stop your Qaeda madrassa teachings where you and your like go read a stupid book rocking your heads until you are brainwashed with islamic hate. No one in ANY religion will go to war believing it is the will of God. Those who did are all in hell.

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          the al-ciada mad-rassa teachings wont stop untill the united shits stops backing them

    • 5thDrawer

      Hannibal … the scrap metal will be of interest to the Chinese. ;-)

  • Hannibal

    Ok now this is GOOD news… Can you fly them though? he he

    • Mahdi Kenaani

      i think they can… dont you remember 9/11?

      • Hannibal

        Good idea… Now fly them into qasr el sha3eb in Damascus…

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          if arabs want to kill each other then be my geust… just leave peace loving ppl like me alone

      • Hannibal

        The only thing I like about you Mahdi is the fact that you are not an Arab… Canaan rules…

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          thanks i guess

    • wargame1

      The warrior God in the Bible
      In addition to Exodus 15:3, Yahweh is a man of war, God is described as a warrior in Psalm 24: Who is the King of glory–Yahweh, mighty and valiant, Yahweh, valiant in battle (Ps. 24:8).  Frank Moore Cross finds in this passage a strong echo of the Canaanite pattern, in which both El and Ba’al are described as warrior gods.
      Yahweh was a warrior God (Exod. 5:3, Isa. 42:13)…The Israelites, quite like the pre-Islamic Arabs, even carried their God with them into conflict on occasion (Num. 10:35-36).

    • wargame1

      More war in the Bible

      The Ark of the Covenant is the symbol and banner of God’s presence in battle (1 Sam. 4:4, 2 Sam. 11:11), and this connection between the Ark and the presence of God in war is made already in the desert in Num.10:35: “When the Ark was to set out, Moses would say: Advance O Lord!  May your enemies be scattered and may your foes flee before you!”  The Ark is like a battle station from which God fights for Israel and, although not mentioned in every battle, probably went forth often and is referred to in passing as a regular part of the battle array (Jud. 4:14).  The Philistine army was terrified of the Ark itself and related to the Ark as if it were the very appearance of God (1 Sam. 4:5-8)

    • wargame1

      The Bible’s Yahweh, a War-God?: Called “Lord of Armies” Over 280 Times in the Bible and “Lord of Peace” Just Once (I) i.e. Yahweh-Shalom (The Lord is Peace): 1 time

      Exodus 15:3 The Lord is a man of war; the Lord is His Name.Of note aside from the obvious “man of war” appellation is that Yahweh is depicted as a man who is actually physically on the battlefield as a warrior, instead of merely helping from afar. “The Lord will fight for you” (Ex. 14:14) is meant to be taken very literally.

    • wargame1

      You are preaching God wage no war but your Bible says just the opposite
      saiah 42:13 The Lord will march forward like a warrior.  He will arouse His zeal like a man of war.  He will utter a shout, yes, He will raise a war cry.  He will prevail against all His enemies.
      God was not just any warrior, but the best of them–victorious in battle:
      Psalm 24:8 Who is the King of Glory?  The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle.
      He would prove his might in battle by crushing the heads of his enemies:
      68:21 Surely God will crush the heads of his enemies.

      • Hannibal

        I do not believe in the bible… It is a Jewish mythology rewritten… and Wargame really you are a lunatic… your words are exactly why Islam is so screwed up. Kill this and attack this and wipe those people and Yahweh was fighting and the angels came to his aid and battle this and battle that… If this is your definition of god he is NO god of mine… My God is a peace loving God, forgiving and loving… Your god is a blood thirsty bastard… So stop your Qaeda madrassa teachings where you and your like go read a stupid book rocking your heads until you are brainwashed with islamic hate. No one in ANY religion will go to war believing it is the will of God. Those who did are all in hell.

        • Mahdi Kenaani

          the al-ciada mad-rassa teachings wont stop untill the united shits stops backing it

    • 5thDrawer

      Hannibal … the scrap metal will be of interest to the Chinese. ;-)

  • guss043

    Max Feb13 he’ll be out, The butcher In Damascus will run that is if not csptured and hanged

  • guss043

    Max Feb13 he’ll be out, The butcher In Damascus will run that is if not csptured and hanged

  • Persistent

    Are you guys serious in trying to engage Wargame in a real discussion?

  • Persistent

    Are you guys serious in trying to engage Wargame in a real discussion?