U.S. Envoy to Libya Is Killed by an armed mob

The United States ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, was killed along with three of his staff in an attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi Tuesday night by an armed mob angry over a short American-made video mocking Islam’s founding prophet, the White House and Libyan officials said on Wednesday.

In a statement confirming the four fatalities, President Obama said he strongly condemned the killing — the first death of an American envoy abroad in more than two decades — and had ordered increased security at American diplomatic posts around the world.

The attack at the compound in Benghazi was far more deadly than administration officials first announced on Tuesday night, when Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said one American had been killed and one injured.

Mr. Obama’s statement did not disclose details of the attack. The ambassador, Christopher Stephens, arrived in Libya earlier this year after serving as an envoy to the Libyan rebels who overthrew Libya’s leader, Mohamar el-Qaddafi last year. The other three killed were not immediately identified.

‘“While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants,” Mr. Obama said, calling Mr. Stevens “a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States” who had “selflessly served our country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi” and, as ambassador, “supported Libya’s transition to democracy.”

“The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their work forward,” the statement said.

The killingsthreatened to upset Washington’s relations with the new Libyan government that took over after the ouster of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi and sour American public opinion about the prospects of the democratic opening of the Arab Spring.

Mr. Stevens, a veteran of American diplomatic missions in Libya, served in Benghazi during the uprising against Colonel Qaddafi, and he was widely admired by the Libyan rebels for his support of their struggle.

The news of his death emerged on Wednesday after violence spilled over the American consulate in Benghazi and demonstrators stormed the fortified walls of the United States Embassy in Cairo.

Few details of the events in Benghazi were immediately available, but the killing of the ranking American official in Libya raised questions about the vulnerability of American officials at a time when the profound changes sweeping the Arab world have hardly dispelled the rage against the United States that still smolders in pockets around the region.

Tuesday’s violence came on the 11th anniversary of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, and were inspired by Egyptian media reports about a 14-minute trailer for the video, called “Innocence of Muslims,” that was released on the Web.

Earlier, an unidentified Libyan official in Benghazi told Reuters that the American ambassador in Libya and three other staff members were killed in Benghazi “when gunmen fired rockets at them.” It was not clear where in the city the attack took place. The Libyan official said the ambassador was being driven from the consulate building to a safer location when gunmen opened fire, Reuters said.

In a message on Twitter, Deputy Prime Minister Mustafa Abu Shagur of Libya said on Wednesday that he condemned “the cowardly act of attacking the U.S. consulate and the killing of Mr. Stevens and the other diplomats.”

Agence France-Presse quoted the Libyan Interior Ministry as saying Ambassador Stevens and three staff members were killed when a mob attacked the consulate in Benghazi. Al Jazeera’s English-language Web site said Mr. Stevens died of smoke inhalation after a mob set fire to the building.

In Italy, the Corriere della Sera newspaper Web site showed images of what it said was the American Consulate in Benghazi ablaze with men carrying automatic rifles and waving V-for-victory signs, silhouetted against the burning buildings. One photograph showed a man closely resembling Mr. Stevens apparently unconscious, his face seeming to be smudged with smoke and his eyes closed.

Mr. Stevens arrived in Tripoli in May 2012, as United States Ambassador to Libya, according to the State Department Web site, after serving two previous terms in Libya since 2007 as an American envoy before and after the 2011 revolution that overthrew Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.

Mr. Stevens, conversant in Arabic and French in addition to English, worked at the State Department since 1991 after a spell as an international trade lawyer in Washington. He taught English as a Peace Corps volunteers in Morocco from 1983 to 1985, the State Department Web site said. The immediate cause of the anti-American outburst was the trailer of an amateurish, American-made video, which opens with scenes of Egyptian security forces standing idle as Muslims pillage and burn the homes of Egyptian Christians. Then it cuts to cartoonish scenes depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a child of uncertain parentage, a buffoon, a womanizer, a homosexual, a child molester and a greedy, bloodthirsty thug.

The trailer was uploaded to YouTube by Sam Bacile, whom The Wall Street Journal Web site identified as a 52-year old Israeli-American real estate developer in California. He told the Web site he had raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to make the film. “Islam is a cancer,” Mr. Bacile was quoted as saying.

The video gained international attention when a Florida pastor began promoting it along with his own proclamation of Sept. 11 as “International Judge Muhammad Day.”

In a statement on Tuesday, the pastor, Terry Jones of Gainesville, Fla., called the film “an American production, not designed to attack Muslims but to show the destructive ideology of Islam” and said it “further reveals in a satirical fashion the life of Muhammad.”

He said the embassy and consulate attacks illustrated that Muslims “have no tolerance for anything outside of Muhammad” and called Islam “a total deception.”

Mr. Jones inspired deadly riots in Afghanistan in 2010 and 2011 by first threatening to burn copies of the Koran and then burning one in his church. He also once reportedly hanged President Obama in effigy.

In Benghazi on Tuesday, protesters with automatic rifles and rocket-propelled grenades attacked the United States Consulate and set it on fire, Libyan officials said. Some news reports said American guards inside the consulate had fired their weapons, and a brigade of Libyan security forces arriving on the scene had battled the attackers in the streets as well.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton confirmed late Tuesday that a State Department officer had been killed in the Benghazi attack, and she condemned the violence. “Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet,” she said. “The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”

The death in Benghazi appears to be the first such fatality in a string of attacks and vandalism against foreign and especially Western diplomatic missions in Libya in recent months. Since the fall of Colonel Qaddafi, Libya’s transitional government has struggled to rebuild an effective police force, control the weapons that have flooded the streets and restore public security.

Local Islamist militant groups capitalizing on the security vacuum have claimed responsibility for some attacks, and some reports on Tuesday suggested that one such group, Ansar al-Sharia, had claimed responsibility for that day’s assault.

In Cairo, thousands of unarmed protesters gathered outside the embassy during the day. By nightfall, some had climbed over the wall around the embassy compound and destroyed a flag hanging inside. The vandals replaced it with a black flag with an Islamic profession of faith — “There is no god but God, and Muhammad is his prophet” — favored by ultraconservatives and militants.

Embassy guards fired guns into the air, but a large contingent of Egyptian riot police officers on hand to protect the embassy evidently did not use their weapons against the crowd, and the protest continued, largely without violence, into the night.

A spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, the mainstream Islamist group and the sponsor of Egypt’s first elected president, Mohamed Morsi, urged the United States government on Tuesday to prosecute the “madmen” behind the video, according to the English-language Web site of the state newspaper, Al Ahram.

The spokesman asked for a formal apology from the United States government and warned that events like the video were damaging Washington’s relations with the Muslim world. He also emphasized that any protests should remain peaceful and respect property.

There should be “civilized demonstrations of the Egyptian people’s displeasure with this film,” the Brotherhood spokesman said, according to the newspaper Web site. “Any nonpeaceful activity will be exploited by those who hate Islam to defame the image of Egypt and Muslims.”

Bracing for trouble before the start of the protests here and in Libya, the American Embassy released a statement shortly after noon that appeared to refer to Mr. Jones: “The United States Embassy in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” It later denounced the “unjustified breach of our embassy.”

Apparently unaware of the timing of the first embassy statement, the Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, put out a statement just before midnight Tuesday saying, “It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” Mr. Romney also said he was “outraged” at the attacks on the embassy and consulate.

Responding to Mr. Romney’s statement, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, said, “We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack.”

NY Times

  • nayyashAl3arab

    qui seme le vent recolte la tempete

    • nayyashAl3arab

      sorry for you guys but this is american policy: it brought muslum botherhood to power in lybia egypt tunesia algeria….americans die because of this policy. But again in weekends america has so many hundred deads on hiughways; so what is the life of one or a hundred or a thousand or ten thousand americans when america is writing history  oops and geography too
      let this be a lesson to all who are supporting the “democoranic” regime of the muslum botherhood

  • nayyashAl3arab

    qui seme le vent recolte la tempete

    • nayyashAl3arab

      sorry for you guys but this is american policy: it brought muslum botherhood to power in lybia egypt tunesia algeria….americans die because of this policy. But again in weekends america has so many hundred deads on hiughways; so what is the life of one or a hundred or a thousand or ten thousand americans when america is writing history  oops and geography too
      let this be a lesson to all who are supporting the “democoranic” regime of the muslum botherhood

      • Hannibal

        Last I checked the new Libyan regime is secular… I hope I’m right.

        • greetings hannibal,

           I am begining to realize dab was right all along “salafist nu gud mr” 

           on a serious note this is another  very sad and disturbing example of feel good religious members on a self professed mission from god, as usual proving consistently how ungodly they  conduct themselves and further  displaying how little faith they have that there exists a   powerful god  that can take care of business on his own without the interference of weakling uneducated earthlings with no self esteem  rendering themselves children of the devil by their very action.
           
          these individuals  do not represent everyone in the faith or the region but with nothing to lose and no self esteem for their lack of accomplishment feel only relevent and powerfull when they behave this savagely.

        • Hannibal

          @gemico:disqus Totally agree… What kind of a God requires his lowly subjects to defend him… If that is the case we need not worry as He is no God.

        • MekensehParty

          “If that is the case we need not worry as He is no God.”
          Carefull Hannibal, they might burn the lebanese embassy for what you’re saying

        • saoudiAhbal

          if you believe a believer in sunnism can be secular then may all help you

  • wargame1

    Iran is directly involved in Libyan fake uprising and helped NATO on the ground according to their own admission. Here is the quote of Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi 

    Iran “discreetly” provided humanitarian aid to Libyan rebels before the fall of Tripoli, Jam-e-Jam newspaper quoted Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi as saying. 

    “We were in touch with many of the rebel groups in Libya before the fall of (Moamer) Kadhafi, and discreetly dispatched three or four food and medical consignments to Benghazi,” Salehi told the daily. 

    “The head of the National Transitional Council (NTC), Mustafa Abdel Jalil, sent a letter of thanks to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for having been on their side and helping,” he added. 

    Iranian Foreign Minister Ali-Akbar Salehi spoke with Libyan N.T.C. Chairman Mustafa Abdul-Jalil over the phone on Tuesday, (Aug 23, 2011)  congratulating the rebels on their “victory over dictatorship.” He also invited Abdul-Jalil to Teheran on a state visit in order to “deepen bilateral ties.”

    • $31060015

      You seriously believe you own shit, Did you know that Peter Pan was real Wargame.

      • wargame1

        I am quoting the Iranian foreign minister. Now Let me Quote the past Iranian president and the Vice president

        Iran’s ex vice president Muhammad Ali Abtahi said: “This was Iran’s first major effort to help the United States to topple the Taliban in Afghanistan and AlQaeda, this would have been impossible without Iran’s help ” 

        Iranian Ex President Muhammad Khatami said: “The Taliban was our enemy , America thought Taliban was their enemy too! If they toppled the Taliban it would serve the interest of Iran” 

        Then the alliance targets Iraq !!This time Iranian Ex president Muhammad Khatami said, ” I told him, Lets repeat Afghanistan experience in Iraq!”  

        If you want to see this recorded statement then please Search the following on Youtube..its still there!! 
        ” Iran the hypocrite, Muslims beware of that” 

        You and every other person in the Forum may search the following on youtube

        “The Shias and al-Qaeda (a comparison) part 1”  

        its a good analysis by an Iranian brother with the proof about Alqaeda as a Iranian organization.

  • wargame1

    Iran is directly involved in Libyan fake uprising and helped NATO on the ground according to their own admission. Here is the quote of Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi 

    Iran “discreetly” provided humanitarian aid to Libyan rebels before the fall of Tripoli, Jam-e-Jam newspaper quoted Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi as saying. 

    “We were in touch with many of the rebel groups in Libya before the fall of (Moamer) Kadhafi, and discreetly dispatched three or four food and medical consignments to Benghazi,” Salehi told the daily. 

    “The head of the National Transitional Council (NTC), Mustafa Abdel Jalil, sent a letter of thanks to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for having been on their side and helping,” he added. 

    Iranian Foreign Minister Ali-Akbar Salehi spoke with Libyan N.T.C. Chairman Mustafa Abdul-Jalil over the phone on Tuesday, (Aug 23, 2011)  congratulating the rebels on their “victory over dictatorship.” He also invited Abdul-Jalil to Teheran on a state visit in order to “deepen bilateral ties.”

  • wargame1

    Iran is directly involved in Libyan fake uprising and helped NATO on the ground according to their own admission. Here is the quote of Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi 

    Iran “discreetly” provided humanitarian aid to Libyan rebels before the fall of Tripoli, Jam-e-Jam newspaper quoted Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi as saying. 

    “We were in touch with many of the rebel groups in Libya before the fall of (Moamer) Kadhafi, and discreetly dispatched three or four food and medical consignments to Benghazi,” Salehi told the daily. 

    “The head of the National Transitional Council (NTC), Mustafa Abdel Jalil, sent a letter of thanks to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for having been on their side and helping,” he added. 

    Iranian Foreign Minister Ali-Akbar Salehi spoke with Libyan N.T.C. Chairman Mustafa Abdul-Jalil over the phone on Tuesday, (Aug 23, 2011)  congratulating the rebels on their “victory over dictatorship.” He also invited Abdul-Jalil to Teheran on a state visit in order to “deepen bilateral ties.”

    • AntiFSA

      You seriously believe you own shit, Did you know that Peter Pan was real Wargame.

      • wargame1

        I am quoting the Iranian foreign minister. Now Let me Quote the past Iranian president and the Vice president

        Iran’s ex vice president Muhammad Ali Abtahi said: “This was Iran’s first major effort to help the United States to topple the Taliban in Afghanistan and AlQaeda, this would have been impossible without Iran’s help ” 

        Iranian Ex President Muhammad Khatami said: “The Taliban was our enemy , America thought Taliban was their enemy too! If they toppled the Taliban it would serve the interest of Iran” 

        Then the alliance targets Iraq !!This time Iranian Ex president Muhammad Khatami said, ” I told him, Lets repeat Afghanistan experience in Iraq!”  

        If you want to see this recorded statement then please Search the following on Youtube..its still there!! 
        ” Iran the hypocrite, Muslims beware of that” 

        You and every other person in the Forum may search the following on youtube

        “The Shias and al-Qaeda (a comparison) part 1”  

        its a good analysis by an Iranian brother with the proof about Alqaeda as a Iranian organization.

  • wargame1

    Hezbushaitan supported NATO along with their Iranian Masters on Libyan invasion

    On 25 Feb 2011, ten days after the NATO-backed “rebels” started their terrorism, Hassan Nasrallah released a statement on Hezbollah’s Al Manar TV channel saying, “Anyone with honor and consciousness in this world cannot, and should not, keep silent on the massacres the Gaddafi regime is committing across the country on a daily basis, namely in Benghazi. Hezbollah expresses support to the revolutionists in Libya, and we pray that they will triumph over this arrogant tyrant.”
    So any kind of atrocity in Libya has strong connection with the majoosis.

    • Moe2000

       Gaddafi was a dog that killed Musa al Sadr.

      • $31060015

        I wouldn’t go as far as saying he was a dog Moe. Dog’s can be useful.

  • wargame1

    Hezbushaitan supported NATO along with their Iranian Masters on Libyan invasion

    On 25 Feb 2011, ten days after the NATO-backed “rebels” started their terrorism, Hassan Nasrallah released a statement on Hezbollah’s Al Manar TV channel saying, “Anyone with honor and consciousness in this world cannot, and should not, keep silent on the massacres the Gaddafi regime is committing across the country on a daily basis, namely in Benghazi. Hezbollah expresses support to the revolutionists in Libya, and we pray that they will triumph over this arrogant tyrant.”
    So any kind of atrocity in Libya has strong connection with the majoosis.

    • Moe2000

       Gaddafi was a dog that killed Musa al Sadr.

      • AntiFSA

        I wouldn’t go as far as saying he was a dog Moe. Dog’s can be useful.

  • Hannibal

    Poor guy… He paid the price for religulous scum…

    • Persistent

      Those are the same people with the same mentality in which some are trying to usher to power in Syria. Do not get the idea that I am defending the regime here. The syrian people truly deserve their freedom but their revolution has been hijacked by jihadiis and if those folks succeed, no one is sfae and we will all pay a price. In Libya, Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanastan, Pakastin, Egypt, Syria, Yemen…… they are all the same with one goal eliminate everyone that differs.

      The US helped them overthrow a dictator in Libya, now they turn on them….

  • Hannibal

    Poor guy… He paid the price for religulous scum…

    • Persistent

      Those are the same people with the same mentality in which some are trying to usher to power in Syria. Do not get the idea that I am defending the regime here. The syrian people truly deserve their freedom but their revolution has been hijacked by jihadiis and if those folks succeed, no one is sfae and we will all pay a price. In Libya, Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanastan, Pakastin, Egypt, Syria, Yemen…… they are all the same with one goal eliminate everyone that differs.

      The US helped them overthrow a dictator in Libya, now they turn on them….

  • Hannibal

    Poor guy… He paid the price of religulous scum…

    • Persistent

      Those are the same people with the same mentality in which some are trying to usher to power in Syria. Do not get the idea that I am defending the regime here. The syrian people truly deserve their freedom but their revolution has been hijacked by jihadiis and if those folks succeed, no one is sfae and we will all pay a price. In Libya, Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanastan, Pakastin, Egypt, Syria, Yemen…… they are all the same with one goal eliminate everyone that differs.

      The US helped them overthrow a dictator in Libya, now they turn on them….

  • rossoferrari

    With utter dismay, yesterday’s actions changed the call of “allah akhbar” to “allah wo@&r@h” I leave it to your imagination. It also demonstrates that no matter how much help they get to become part of a democratic and civilized society, they just want to remain barbarian, thus putting them in the lowest rank of human civilization on this earth.
     

  • rossoferrari

    With utter dismay, yesterday’s actions changed the call of “allah akhbar” to “allah wo@&r@h” I leave it to your imagination. It also demonstrates that no matter how much help they get to become part of a democratic and civilized society, they just want to remain barbarian, thus putting them in the lowest rank of human civilization on this earth.
     

  • Constantin7

    A gang of retarded murderers they were and they will remain. Thanks to this “wonderful” religion and its alleged prophet. This what their prophet taught them to do: KILLING, KILLING and mor KILLING.

  • Constantin7

    A gang of retarded murderers they were and they will remain. Thanks to this “wonderful” religion and its alleged prophet. This what their prophet taught them to do: KILLING, KILLING and mor KILLING.

  • 5thDrawer

    Better to reserve commenting … on A supposedly 2hr film made over a year ago which no-one seems to have seen … parts of it on YouTube recently translated into Arabic mostly for ‘news reporting’ clips … no-one is sure who made it … just as no-one is sure who the group was that stormed the Embassy.
    “Filmed against a green backdrop so scenes could be added later.” (Badly it seems)
    “It now appears possible that the actors did not know the film would eventually deal with such controversial subject matter – and did not themselves speak the lines that made the film the provocative and insulting production that most commentators agree it is.” (Dubbed sound …)
    “Early reports concerning the identity of the filmmaker, too, have been hard to verify.”

  • 5thDrawer

    Better to reserve commenting … on A film made over a year ago … recently translated into Arabic mostly for ‘news reporting’ clips … no-one is sure who made it … just as no-one is sure who the group was that stormed the Embassy.
    “It now appears possible that the actors did not know the film would eventually deal with such controversial subject matter – and did not themselves speak the lines that made the film the provocative and insulting production that most commentators agree it is.
    Early reports concerning the identity of the filmmaker, too, have been hard to verify.”

  • guss043

    Shame on the mobs killing an innocent US Ambassador, the first missiles that destroyed most Khaddafi war machine were Amercians ,700 million dollars first night , Is the American ambassador the one who made the movie ? is a frigin Jew who made it and got 5 million dollars from Jewish who had interest in it, Can the moslem use their brain and not their emotions to analyze that it was released Sep 11 and the Jews owns the movie industry in US. US is the last country that can be considered a Chistian country as they celebrate thanksgiving more that Xmas and Easter holiday  doesn’t exist’ .The Cartoon in Denmark made the moslem mobs in Lebanon go toward Achrafieh with knives scream Khaibar or whatever f it is khaibar is . I have full respect for Hizbollah as they always fought army and they were never cowards like the Egyptian who just are good on fighting and killing coptics and runaway with war in Israel. When I saw today the picture in Annahar of the Americna US ambassador dragged with the moselm mobs and killed ,I came to the conclusion that the west by the end have to back off and Back Assad to finish this so called revolution as the replacement will be an ugly one especially when the Hypocrites Saudis who made Sep 11 and financed it are behind all the moslem fanaticism and terrorism in the world >let Assad squashed them the hell with them they don’t deserve to win after what we see that Egypt and Lybia are going to the dark ages time

    • $31060015

      Well put Gus, Couldn’t agree with you more. Now wait for the back lash from other bloggers who will disagree with you. The sad thing is most on this site cant see or refuse to see what you have just said.
      Again, well put  

      • 5thDrawer

        Well, Anti … The sad thing IS that most of us have the same ‘gut’ reaction.
        But it is not the majority doing the ‘mob-scenes’ that they want to play on your TVs all day, and after some think about it, and learn if it is even a silly clip that caused the problems – if that’s possible before more of the nutsos get into the act – I’m sure MOST of us would rather see some agreement that it’s the little mobsters who need to be gone.
        WHO actually made that ‘movie’ ??
        Some people are trying to get everyone into the ‘War Mode’. Shameful, yes. But should we allow that? At least, before we find out who really put it there? As yet, no-one actually knows ….
        One can hardly ignore the knee-jerk reactions that are occurring … and will as more stupidity happens … but who really has calculated these actions to put us all ‘in the mood’.???
        The ‘theorists’ of course are having a field-day.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well you are legitimately asking should we allow that; well i believe the question should be: are we able not to allow that? or what can we do in order not to allow that? i believe in both cases the answer will be deceiving. However, the wahhabi’s which are behind these hyper reactions should be sanctionned; shamefully nothing in that direction happens. Again we go back to amrika al shaytan: america is happy with these reactions and actually entertains them; here lies the core of the issue

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well you are legitimately asking should we allow that; well i believe the question should be: are we able not to allow that? or what can we do in order not to allow that? i believe in both cases the answer will be deceiving. However, the wahhabi’s which are behind these hyper reactions should be sanctionned; shamefully nothing in that direction happens. Again we go back to amrika al shaytan: america is happy with these reactions and actually entertains them; here lies the core of the issue

      • Guest

        Oh well, too bad for all of you blinded and paralyzed by your antisemitism (which is why your countries are such beacons of progress) but the guy who made the movie was an Arab Christian and he lied about being Israeli just to get you all barking and frothing at the mouth. What does that say about you that such a man can get you to do exactly what he wanted?  And not that in any even half-civilized place a movie justifies murder, especially not the murder of unrelated, random diplomats, but in any case a Jew would have made a much, much better quality film.  Jews are like that. They do things well. Which is why you lot are so hatefully jealous.

        • guss043

          must be a jewish hand behind it with no doubt, the copt wouldnt do such crappy thing , egyptian movies are as good as hollywood one,please be modest,enough of your arrogance in the middle east, maybe you sould concentrate more on the germans who placed you in the ovens in comparison to the arabs who treated you the best when european confined you to ghettos!! Hollywoosd or jewish hollywood is a bias movie machine controlled by you so is the porn degenerated industry that you own

          • Guest

            You’re a sad, pathetic hater and a perfect example of the diseased mindset that has made the Middle East, with the exception of Israel, a laughing stock and embarrassment to mankind. The only “arrogance” is thinking that you have a right to criticize Israel while your countries (stolen from natives) are such a disgrace.

        • $31060015

          That’s the problem see, some of you Jews are so cockie, You really think you are invincible. The sad thing is most Jewish people don’t think like you or have your attitude and arrogance. What’s more upsetting is that Hitler wasn’t able to dispose of the evil Jews like you. However your time is near. Your days are numbered. I just hope when the time finally comes the innocent Jews aren’t caught up in the mess.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          anti semitism lol; anti simianism you mean. listen faggot, when Lebanon was in peace israel was not even a darta compared to lebanon in terms of sciences, arts, education, progress and economy. Now that you stole the money or at least part of the money that lebanon was making and you destroyed its infrastructure abusing from the fact Lebanon was a peaceful state not prepared for war, you are prostituting grandiose ideals to show us that this state like infrastructure called israel is superior. If that is the case tell me then why most jews are migrating away from israel and why most are not even coming back for a yearly visit as they used to do in the past. Hence your fear of a strong lebanon, hizbollah contributing majorly to this strength, a lebanon that can threaten the core of the stable you call the state of israel, a threat that arabs jarabs could never constitute because of salafi arrieration and barbarism. Only one thing i agree with you on: your neo allies the wahhabis are arrierated and barbaric however do not generalise; we are either phoenicians or persians; even the ottoman allies of the wahhabis do not claim they have any arabic kinship. I would even go to another extreme: egyptian muslum brotherhood are detaching themselves from saoudi arabia and are starting to claim their african roots. If you were not as bad as the wahhabis you wouldn’t ally yourself with them; again the famous saying: birds of feather flock together

        • Guest

          To Nayyash, (assad-supporting) FSA and Gibs (only):  All this additional drooling and conspiracy theories and choking on your own lies… Lebanon was a beacon (yeah, right — shopping centers built by the French don’t make people scientists) and Israel controls Wahabbis, and israelis are leaving (in fact they are coming back en masse you clueless eunuch)… blah blah blah and then presumably some stabbing of random passers by in Beirut or the North and some punching of women in the face for good measure and of course the obligatory congratulation of Hitler and yet despite it all you stay in your toothless delusions and awkwardly massive inferiority complexes and inadequacy and your countries keep being an embarrassment to all mankind and your culture stuck in its present muck because you can’t get yourself to admit that your only hope in this life is to beg Israel and the US to teach you how to evolve… pathetic. Go invent more “divine victories” and kill each other and praise hitler and convince yourselves that you are relevant while Israel accomplishes more in a day than you have in the last 200 years you jealous, jealous, insecure, pathetic trolls.

        • Philassie

          GDP per Capita:

          Israel: $31,400; Lebanon: $14,700

          Life expectancy:

          Israel: 82; Lebanon: 72

          Literacy rate:

          Israel: 97.1 (even higher if counting only Jewish population);
          Lebanon: 90

          Child mortality/1000:

          Israel: 5.09; Lebanon 25.49;

          Women in labour force (%):

          Israel: 53% (again, much higher if counting only Jewish
          population); Lebanon: 23%

          Nobel Prizes:

          Israel (to 2011): 10 ; 
          Lebanon: 0

          Patents granted at USPTO 2011:

          Israel: 1981; 
          Lebanon: 9  

           
          Lol.

        • Guest

          It would seem from the statistics that I posted that you should stop praising Hitler and instead  of hating Israel and blaming it for everything, seek to emulate it.  I am sure it would be welcoming of such initiative. Not that you deserve it. Very classy wishing another Holocaust btw. Next you will whine of some imagined massacre and yet the irony will be lost on you…

        • nayyashAl3arab

          are these statistics of the mossad limited company?  nobody likes hitler here and nobody hates the jews; from your reply you seem to be one of those who in Lebanon would work as cleana or maybe taxi driva; you see the world does not turn around israel; people have other more important issues; to be honest with you if israel was not stirring in the mud i wouldnt even care to know where israel is; however in every act of terrorism you see the name of israel in it: thus, logically, i would raise an honest question: isnt israel behind these terrorist acts? I knew a yahoodi who cut his hand by letting his car fall on it to get few millions from the insurance and then after he lost his arm he cried: oh my rolex. So you nurture terrorism which intentionally hits you as you planned so you go like sissy beggars to america: we want money and we want weapons to defend ourselves; we are an endangered species. All what i told you is that america got your game, had enough with you and does not have enough money for you anymore and foremost does not need you: usa is in the middle east itself. Further america has changed priorities: americas interest come first then if any rests remain the jewish lobby may collect them from the ground 

        • nayyashAl3arab

          jews do well in killing from far; dont mix jews with america; its a challenge for you; watch israel from now on and you will see: you will be more hungry than biafra children at their time. I can also claim that me and bill gates are billionaires. You made some progress because yoiu managed to crook and beg some american money; what are you going to do now? wait and see; it is not a threat it is rather a promise: you will regret the moment you were born; you will curse the day you were called jews; you will even beg saoudis to let you work in cleaning their camel stables: reverse history will be applicable; you fled from medina and now you will flee away from israel back to medina camel stables as cleaners maybe dissimulated as thieves or salafis; anyhow you already have the infrastructure of salafis: you are circumcised.
          P.S./ no christian would ever accept to be called arab; no shia neither; i know some jews call themselves arabs to beg some arabic food in the arabic countries they live in

        • nayyashAl3arab

          I am glad we managed to show people who still believe israel can be a friend how much israeli people hate Lebanon; your logorrhea is not of any importance to be even read: actually i shut my nostrils while trying to diagonally go thru this rubbish; i will omit to retaliate; Lebanon does not need a testimony of an american jewish refugee whether in new york or in israel to know what it is: 7000 year of culture; it hurts you hahahahahaha.
          I myself used to believe in peace with israel till i realised israelis are  a special species, i said simian species just to give it a name, but you are much more monstruous than the simian species and america as well as the world is realising it day after day; your treachery does not pass anymore; time is ticking; the end is near

        • $31060015

          What is your beloved IsraeHELL going to do now. The US is starting to distance themselves from you. Don’t be surprised though, they have done this with all their so called allies. Lets see how big your balls are now that you are left all alone like a sitting duck. (Quack Quack).    

        • Guest

          let’s see what happens when Hezbullpigs loses Syria… I’ll take that bet.(oink oink)

          Oh, and Nayyash… the Phoenicians didn’t call themselves that. And they spoke Hebrew. Look it up. Your ancient civilization was in fact Israelite or as close to it as can be. Lol.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          ya hmar ya ibn al hmar; oops sorry for the hmar; aramean is the mother of hebrew; aramean which is the language of phoenician descendants is the mother language from which came arabic and hebrew; and you claim to be more educated than us; hhhhhhhhhhhhh

        • Hannibal

          Pass26,
          The Phoenicians spoke Phoenician proto-Aramaic which evolved into Hebrew and Aramaic. The Hebrew letters were derived from the Phoenician Alphabet and not the other way around.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well you can utter any stupidity you want; call us pigs or others; does it really matter; does yyour opinion really matter; i believe you are just bringing lower the country you claim to represent as i qualified it earlier a stable or an animal farm. hizbollah is foremost a lebanese organisation which does not need syria for its survival; further let me give you breaking news: assadism is going nowhere; ask your american masters; i do not expect from a jewish refugee slave to know what their masters are planning

        • Hannibal

          One more thing, stop insulting the whole of Lebanon because a couple of people insulted you… The majority of Lebanese are against killing… We as you, have religious nuts, or have you forgotten your orthodox cancerous people who take take take from Israel and never pay taxes? Your women are afraid of walking on the same street as those nitwit backward looking  look-alike monkeys…

        • Philassie

          Hannibal (meaning “Baal (the master) graces me” in Hebrew):

          Aramaic is distinct (much younger) script and language from Phoenician. The phoenician alphabet and the Hebrew alphabet were the same until the Judean elite changed it to the Assyrian or Aramaic script in 515 BC (though the original script survived for holy texts well into the dead sea scroll era). If I were allowed to post links here I would show you engravings and you would not be able to distinguish which were phoenician and which were hebrew. Also the phoenicians(who, again, did not call themselves that) had this in common with Israelites (apart from Hiram having Israelite parents Like Dido of Carthage (“new city” in Hebrew)): rule by judges called shofetim (Hebrew), worship of ashera trees (from where the very word “Israel” comes from) temples at first with no representation of a god, only a flame and empty throne. temples with two pillars in front, circumcision, no eating of pork. expiatory sacrifices and burnt offerings almost identical to leviticus. this is on top of a same language, cities exchanged back and forth, cooperation in building and joint fleets to travel and colonize the mediterranean.  the very name of the “phoenician” letters are hebrew words perfectly describing their shapes. perhaps most telling is the name phoenician. it probably comes from the Greek for the purple dye the phoenicians became famous for. this purple dye, from the murex shell of which there are stil heaps in tyre, is EXACTLY the same dye that the Israelites used for temple worship and for their tzitziot strings (represented in the current flag of the state of Israel).  The Israelis rediscovered how to do this process in 1982.  No other culture uses this process.  Also, the phoenician cities emerged as powerful urban centers in 1200 BC precisely when Israel was forming its kingdom from loose tribes.

          Moreover, recent genetic studies have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that north african jews descend from phoenician and israelite traders who colonized the mediterranean.  again, i woud provide links if this website allowed me to.

          Now for all you haters.

           If you do have any connection to the phoenicians (very unlikely as the original phoenicians were dispersed and assimilated following the invasion by assyrians and neo babylonians that also destroyed the first Israelite kingdoms) then you are yourselves israelites.  So stop saying in every one of you ridiculous comments how Hitler should have finished the job, and then complain about Israel’s lack of love or whatever. 

          The statistics below, which show which nation likely is the real heir to the inventors of the alphabet, are all from official sources and can be checked easily. If lebanon was so powerful before Israel “stole” its money, how did Israel pull it off?

          You have no case and no reason to be so stupidly hateful and genocidal.  Evolve.  Things are nice down here. We don’t persecute Christians, kill reporters or burn KFCs for stupid filsm. And we make much much much better movies than Copts. Steven Spielberg anyone? Harvey Weinstein?

        • Guest

          Nayyash you are too vulgar, racist and stupid for me to keep humoring you. Your type of proud, violent, intolerant idiocy is why the Middle East (outside of Israel) is such an embarrassing toilet.  You belong with Hizbullshit.

        • Philassie

          Hannibal your portrayal of Israel and its orthodox is largely a fiction (and a bit too hateful.. cancerous?). But you are right, Lebanon is not its idiots like Nayyash and its murder supporters like antiFSA.  I think that if Lebanon lags behind Israel and behind where it belongs it is because pigs like nasrallah and Arafat before him have ruined it and chased away your natives.  One day when your government realizes who its real enemies are i am sure you will be back on top like your diasporas.

        • MekensehParty

          Y’all a bunch of retards who look at the glory of the past to justify your disgraceful present. Arabs, Israelis, Phoenicians, Arameans, Perse, Copts… you shamed your millenias of (common) History by turning to pre-History creatures. You think you’re very different just because of a line called border, what you don’t know is that you are exactly the same in your barbaric fundamental ways and no illusionary line can hide that.
          Anyway, as History taught very well, barbarism is its own enemy and as we can clearly see today, the region is cleaning itself through more and more violent barbaric act. All of the ME has turned into a giant Sodom and Gomorrah and the fire is spreading…
          so keep arguing who invented the hummus…

        • Philassie

          Mekenseh, Israel in reality (not the lies you are told on campuses by agents of the MB) is everything BUT barbaric. It is one of the most evolved, open, tolerant and pluralistic societies on earth on top of being one of the most scientifically advanced and literate.  Israel has won Nobel prizes in every major discipline and produces breakthroughs (including the phone or computer you are using now) every day.  Sorry to disappoint.

        • 5thDrawer

          Well, we won”t mention the child-jails today, Pass26.
          But your history is good and accurate.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          you need to review history boy; i am not here to teach you; aramaic is the mother language of hebrew and arabic; do not confuse the issue; phoenician is much older true but aramaic is still the mother language of hebrew and arabic; assyrian and aramaic are not the same language however aramaic is mother language of assyrian too; further i am not racist at all; i have plenty of jewish friends; i am for peace but with people like you one needs to be a wolf in order not to be devoured by wolves. How could i be racist if i used to support you against the palestinians? this just proves to me that you are just a racist selfish yourself who just cares about israel and for that task you do not care if you burn countries: didn’t you allow joumblatt to massacre the christians in the mountains who were at  that time your allies? if you are a man, am sure you are not, and if you have a grain of honesty, i am sure you do not, answer this question. If you got no answer then shut up and get away from a lebanese blog;  go to jewish blogs to beg some money from america; this is what you need most now

        • nayyashAl3arab

          just for your own information my wife is jewish, lebanese jew, and she shares my ideas; is she racist too?

        • Guest

          yes. she is. and it’s probably not her fault.  she deserves to feel that her people have a right to equality and a country too and not be threatened by bearded pigs who target children or violent maniacs who support them. i pity her living with someone who condones genocide so easily. (and who knows absolutely NOTHING about Aramaic or ancient languages.)  and invents tales of christians being killed by israel — as if before we got here you were all giving each other handjobs and singing kumbaya…. what a crock — you have always and will always kill each other without regard for civilians at all and then whine to us about defending ourselves. and anyway, we armed the native christians, and their officers find refuge here today still since the debacle exit from south lebanon which sadly left the Christians exposed to hizbullpigs…

          And don’t fool yourself, what you do is not supporting the palestinians it is hating Israel like 99% of the middle east which is why you are all getting nowhere. supporting the palestinians would be helping their leaders who actually give a shit about the people as opposed to some empty dream of jihad that translates into impotent men blowing up buses of school children and pretending they are heroes and not scum for doing it. Israel cares more about the palestinians then you and that is why they have infinitely more rights in israel and the territories than they do in lebanon. you care about the palestinians? fight so that they can at least own the land they live on or go to university in lebanon where they have lived for generations.  

          There are very smart, decent people on these pages and I am here to try to see what they have to say and to try again to make them understand that what is portrayed of israel in lebanon is mainly libel and slander to enable hizbullpig to enslave your country. the christians of lebanon are like the jews of israel natives and ancient in this land. we have no reason whatsoever to be at war — we have no reason to be at war with ANY of lebanon at all. Iran is calling the shots and pitting us against each other. but every time i come here i see among the comments a bunch of monsters praising Nasrallah and Assad, modern day hitlers (and hitler himself!!) and blaming israel for everything including their small penises. we can disagree about details and i don’t think israel is perfect at all.  but to the hypocrites like nayyash and AntiFSA who in the same breathe whine about imagined israeli massacres, celebrate the massacrers of israelis and then suggest Hitler should have done a more thorough job, i will always be hostile. cause they are the enemies of lebanon and israel and decency everywhere.

        • saoudiAhbal

          well my wife converted to messianic jew; jew for Jesus; and i myself do not generalise: i told you before i have many jewish friends; but you dont seem to understand except what they tamed you to learn. Not all jews are bad; but a practising jew like a practising sunna is bad because, i do not mind if you worship  a pig, but so long as your belief does not exteriorise and you keep it for you it does not hurt. Further, i told you, i was before BELIEVER IN PEACE WITH ISRAEL. I DO NOT INVENT ANY LIES ABOUT YOUR GENOCIDE OF CHRISTIANS IN CHOUF AREA AS WELL AS WHAT YOU DID TO THE SOUTH LEBANESE ARMY OF LAHAD: YOU WITHDREW LIKE PIGS WITHOUT EVEN INFORMING YOUR ALLIES AND LEFT THEM AS AN EASY PREY TO HIZBOLLAH. IF THIS IS THE WAY YOU REWARD YOUR ALLIES THEN YOU ARE TELLING ME A LOT ABOUT YOUR HONOUR AND HONESTY. AT LEAST HIZBOLLAH  HAVE A WORD: YOU FORGOT WHEN HASSAN NASRALLAH USED TO TELL YOU HAIFA WA MA BA3DA HAYFA!!!!!LOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL REMEMBER THIS AND GO PEE IN YOUR UNDERWEAR…THIS TIME HE PROMISED YOU MORE THAN THAT AND GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW TRUTHFUL HE IS

        • saoudiAhbal

          For your govern i never said i support the palestinans; arent they same species as you are? anjass sha3b bi akdass ard. Please do me a favour: google aramaic and hebrew and learn about the origin of hebrew.

        • Guest

          Saoudi I was responding to Nayyash. The Hebrew language and Phoenician language are the same (with extremely minor dialectical differences, maybe).  The Hebrew SCRIPT was also the same until it was CHANGED by the Judean elite in under the rule of Persian Cyrus in Jerusalem in 510 BC (circ.). 

        • Guest

          Saoudi your other post is a frothing rant fit for Arab TV but not civilized people. I think how Israel withdrew from Lebanon is a shame.  They should have kept arming the Christians.  But don’t accuse us of genocide especially when the only ones killing each other are you.  And your leaders daily wish for genocide upon us. Nasrallah will drag Lebanon into another ugly, needless war… and it wil be worse than last time. For both sides.

    • $31060015

      Well put Gus, Couldn’t agree with you more. Now wait for the back lash from other bloggers who will disagree with you. The sad thing is most on this site cant see or refuse to see what you have just said.
      Again, well put  

      • Guest

        Oh well, too bad for all of you blinded and paralyzed by your antisemitism (which is why your countries are such beacons of progress) but the guy who made the movie was an Arab Christian and he lied about being Israeli just to get you all barking and frothing at the mouth. What does that say about you that such a man can get you to do exactly what he wanted?  And not that in any even half-civilized place a movie justifies murder, especially not the murder of unrelated, random diplomats, but in any case a Jew would have made a much, much better quality film.  Jews are like that. They do things well. Which is why you lot are so hatefully jealous.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          ya hmar ya ibn al hmar; oops sorry for the hmar; aramean is the mother of hebrew; aramean which is the language of phoenician descendants is the mother language from which came arabic and hebrew; and you claim to be more educated than us; hhhhhhhhhhhhh

        • Hannibal

          Pass26,
          The Phoenicians spoke Phoenician proto-Aramaic which evolved into Hebrew and Aramaic. The Hebrew letters were derived from the Phoenician Alphabet and not the other way around.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well you can utter any stupidity you want; call us pigs or others; does it really matter; does yyour opinion really matter; i believe you are just bringing lower the country you claim to represent as i qualified it earlier a stable or an animal farm. hizbollah is foremost a lebanese organisation which does not need syria for its survival; further let me give you breaking news: assadism is going nowhere; ask your american masters; i do not expect from a jewish refugee slave to know what their masters are planning

        • Philassie

          Hannibal (meaning “Baal (the master) graces me” in Hebrew):

          Aramaic is distinct (much younger) script and language from Phoenician. The phoenician alphabet and the Hebrew alphabet were the same until the Judean elite changed it to the Assyrian or Aramaic script in 515 BC (though the original script survived for holy texts well into the dead sea scroll era). If I were allowed to post links here I would show you engravings and you would not be able to distinguish which were phoenician and which were hebrew. Also the phoenicians(who, again, did not call themselves that) had this in common with Israelites (apart from Hiram having Israelite parents Like Dido of Carthage (“new city” in Hebrew)): rule by judges called shofetim (Hebrew), worship of ashera trees (from where the very word “Israel” comes from) temples at first with no representation of a god, only a flame and empty throne. temples with two pillars in front, circumcision, no eating of pork. expiatory sacrifices and burnt offerings almost identical to leviticus. this is on top of a same language, cities exchanged back and forth, cooperation in building and joint fleets to travel and colonize the mediterranean.  the very name of the “phoenician” letters are hebrew words perfectly describing their shapes. perhaps most telling is the name phoenician. it probably comes from the Greek for the purple dye the phoenicians became famous for. this purple dye, from the murex shell of which there are stil heaps in tyre, is EXACTLY the same dye that the Israelites used for temple worship and for their tzitziot strings (represented in the current flag of the state of Israel).  The Israelis rediscovered how to do this process in 1982.  No other culture uses this process.  Also, the phoenician cities emerged as powerful urban centers in 1200 BC precisely when Israel was forming its kingdom from loose tribes.

          Moreover, recent genetic studies have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that north african jews descend from phoenician and israelite traders who colonized the mediterranean.  again, i woud provide links if this website allowed me to.

          Now for all you haters.

           If you do have any connection to the phoenicians (very unlikely as the original phoenicians were dispersed and assimilated following the invasion by assyrians and neo babylonians that also destroyed the first Israelite kingdoms) then you are yourselves israelites.  So stop saying in every one of you ridiculous comments how Hitler should have finished the job, and then complain about Israel’s lack of love or whatever. 

          The statistics below, which show which nation likely is the real heir to the inventors of the alphabet, are all from official sources and can be checked easily. If lebanon was so powerful before Israel “stole” its money, how did Israel pull it off?

          You have no case and no reason to be so stupidly hateful and genocidal.  Evolve.  Things are nice down here. We don’t persecute Christians, kill reporters or burn KFCs for stupid filsm. And we make much much much better movies than Copts. Steven Spielberg anyone? Harvey Weinstein?

        • saoudiAhbal

          well my wife converted to messianic jew; jew for Jesus; and i myself do not generalise: i told you before i have many jewish friends; but you dont seem to understand except what they tamed you to learn. Not all jews are bad; but a practising jew like a practising sunna is bad because, i do not mind if you worship  a pig, but so long as your belief does not exteriorise and you keep it for you it does not hurt. Further, i told you, i was before BELIEVER IN PEACE WITH ISRAEL. I DO NOT INVENT ANY LIES ABOUT YOUR GENOCIDE OF CHRISTIANS IN CHOUF AREA AS WELL AS WHAT YOU DID TO THE SOUTH LEBANESE ARMY OF LAHAD: YOU WITHDREW LIKE PIGS WITHOUT EVEN INFORMING YOUR ALLIES AND LEFT THEM AS AN EASY PREY TO HIZBOLLAH. IF THIS IS THE WAY YOU REWARD YOUR ALLIES THEN YOU ARE TELLING ME A LOT ABOUT YOUR HONOUR AND HONESTY. AT LEAST HIZBOLLAH  HAVE A WORD: YOU FORGOT WHEN HASSAN NASRALLAH USED TO TELL YOU HAIFA WA MA BA3DA HAYFA!!!!!LOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL REMEMBER THIS AND GO PEE IN YOUR UNDERWEAR…THIS TIME HE PROMISED YOU MORE THAN THAT AND GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW TRUTHFUL HE IS

        • saoudiAhbal

          For your govern i never said i support the palestinans; arent they same species as you are? anjass sha3b bi akdass ard. Please do me a favour: google aramaic and hebrew and learn about the origin of hebrew.

        • Guest

          Saoudi I was responding to Nayyash. The Hebrew language and Phoenician language are the same (with extremely minor dialectical differences, maybe).  The Hebrew SCRIPT was also the same until it was CHANGED by the Judean elite in under the rule of Persian Cyrus in Jerusalem in 510 BC (circ.). 

        • Guest

          Saoudi your other post is a frothing rant fit for Arab TV but not civilized people. I think how Israel withdrew from Lebanon is a shame.  They should have kept arming the Christians.  But don’t accuse us of genocide especially when the only ones killing each other are you.  And your leaders daily wish for genocide upon us. Nasrallah will drag Lebanon into another ugly, needless war… and it wil be worse than last time. For both sides.

  • Guss Gibs

    Shame on the mobs killing an innocent US Ambassador, the first missiles that destroyed most Khaddafi war machine were Amercians ,700 million dollars first night , Is the American ambassador the one who made the movie ? is a frigin Jew who made it and got 5 million dollars from Jewish who had interest in it, Can the moslem use their brain and not their emotions to analyze that it was released Sep 11 and the Jews owns the movie industry in US. US is the last country that can be considered a Chistian country as they celebrate thanksgiving more that Xmas and Easter holiday  doesn’t exist’ .The Cartoon in Denmark made the moslem mobs in Lebanon go toward Achrafieh with knives scream Khaibar or whatever f it is khaibar is . I have full respect for Hizbollah as they always fought army and they were never cowards like the Egyptian who just are good on fighting and killing coptics and runaway with war in Israel. When I saw today the picture in Annahar of the Americna US ambassador dragged with the moselm mobs and killed ,I came to the conclusion that the west by the end have to back off and Back Assad to finish this so called revolution as the replacement will be an ugly one especially when the Hypocrites Saudis who made Sep 11 and financed it are behind all the moslem fanaticism and terrorism in the world >let Assad squashed them the hell with them they don’t deserve to win after what we see that Egypt and Lybia are going to the dark ages time

    • AntiFSA

      Well put Gus, Couldn’t agree with you more. Now wait for the back lash from other bloggers who will disagree with you. The sad thing is most on this site cant see or refuse to see what you have just said.
      Again, well put  

      • 5thDrawer

        Well, Anti … The sad thing IS that most of us have the same ‘gut’ reaction.
        But it is not the majority doing the ‘mob-scenes’ that they want to play on your TVs all day, and after some think about it, and learn if it is even a silly clip that caused the problems – if that’s possible before more of the nutsos get into the act – I’m sure MOST of us would rather see some agreement that it’s the little mobsters who need to be gone.
        Some people are trying to get everyone into the ‘War Mode’. Shameful, yes. But should we allow that? At least, before we find out who really put it there? As yet, no-one actually knows ….

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well you are legitimately asking should we allow that; well i believe the question should be: are we able not to allow that? or what can we do in order not to allow that? i believe in both cases the answer will be deceiving. However, the wahhabi’s which are behind these hyper reactions should be sanctionned; shamefully nothing in that direction happens. Again we go back to amrika al shaytan: america is happy with these reactions and actually entertains them; here lies the core of the issue

      • Pass26

        Oh well, too bad for all of you blinded and paralyzed by your antisemitism (which is why your countries are such beacons of progress) but the guy who made the movie was an Arab Christian and he lied about being Israeli just to get you all barking and frothing at the mouth. What does that say about you that such a man can get you to do exactly what he wanted?  And not that in any even half-civilized place a movie justifies murder, especially not the murder of unrelated, random diplomats, but in any case a Jew would have made a much, much better quality film.  Jews are like that. They do things well. Which is why you lot are so hatefully jealous.

        • Guss Gibs

          must be a jewish hand behind it with no doubt, the copt wouldnt do such crappy thing , egyptian movies are as good as hollywood one,please be modest,enough of your arrogance in the middle east, maybe you sould concentrate more on the germans who placed you in the ovens in comparison to the arabs who treated you the best when european confined you to ghettos!! Hollywoosd or jewish hollywood is a bias movie machine controlled by you so is the porn degenerated industry that you own

          • Pass26

            You’re a sad, pathetic hater and a perfect example of the diseased mindset that has made the Middle East, with the exception of Israel, a laughing stock and embarrassment to mankind. The only “arrogance” is thinking that you have a right to criticize Israel while your countries (stolen from natives) are such a disgrace.

        • AntiFSA

          That’s the problem see, some of you Jews are so cockie, You really think you are invincible. The sad thing is most Jewish people don’t think like you or have your attitude and arrogance. What’s more upsetting is that Hitler wasn’t able to dispose of the evil Jews like you. However your time is near. Your days are numbered. I just hope when the time finally comes the innocent Jews aren’t caught up in the mess.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          anti semitism lol; anti simianism you mean. listen faggot, when Lebanon was in peace israel was not even a darta compared to lebanon in terms of sciences, arts, education, progress and economy. Now that you stole the money or at least part of the money that lebanon was making and you destroyed its infrastructure abusing from the fact Lebanon was a peaceful state not prepared for war, you are prostituting grandiose ideals to show us that this state like infrastructure called israel is superior. If that is the case tell me then why most jews are migratinbg away from israel and why most are not even coming back for a yearly visit as they used to do in the past. Hence your fear of a strong lebanon, hizbollah contributing majorly to this strength, a lebanon that can threaten the core of the stable you call the state of israel, a threat that arabs jarabs could never constitute because of salafi arrieration and barbarism. Only one thing i agree with you on: your neo allies the wahhabis are arrierated and barbaric however do not generalise; we are either phoenicians or persians; even the ottoman allies of the wahhabis do not claim they have any arabic kinship. I would even go to another extreme: egyptian muslum brotherhood are detaching themselves from saoudi arabia and are starting to claim their african roots. If you were not as bad as the wahhabis you wouldn’t ally yourself with them; again the famous saying: birds of feather flock together

        • Pass26

          To Nayyash, FSA and all the other racist losers:  All this additional drooling and conspiracy theories and choking on your own lies… Lebanon was a beacon (yeah, right — shopping centers built by the French don’t make people scientists) and Israel controls Wahabbis, and israelis are leaving (in fact they are coming back en masse you clueless eunuch)… blah blah blah and then presumable some stabbing of random passers by in Beirut or the North and some punching of women in the face for good measure an dof course the obligatory congratulation of Hitler and yet despite it all you stay on your toothless delusions and awkwardly massive inferiority complexes and inadequacy and your countries keep being an embarrassment to all mankind and your culture stuck in its present muck because you can’t get yourself to admit that your only hope in this life is to beg Israel and the US to teach you how to evolve… pathetic. Go invent more “divine victories” and kill each other and praise hitler and convince yourselves that you are relevant while Israel accomplishes more in a day than you have in the last 200 years you jealous, jealous, insecure, pathetic trolls.

        • Pass26

          GDP per Capita:

          Israel: $31,400; Lebanon: $14,700

          Life expectancy:

          Israel: 82; Lebanon: 72

          Literacy rate:

          Israel: 97.1 (even higher if counting only Jewish population);
          Lebanon: 90

          Child mortality/1000:

          Israel: 5.09; Lebanon 25.49;

          Women in labour force (%):

          Israel: 53% (again, much higher if counting only Jewish
          population); Lebanon: 23%

          Nobel Prizes:

          Israel (to 2011): 10 ; 
          Lebanon: 0

          Patents granted at USPTO 2011:

          Israel: 1981; 
          Lebanon: 9  

           
          Lol.

        • Pass26

          It would seem from the statistics that I posted that you should stop praising Hitler and instead  of hating Israel and blaming it for everything, seek to emulate it.  I am sure it would be welcoming of such initiative.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          are these statistics of the mossad limited company?  nobody likes hitler here and nobody hates the jews; from your reply you seem to be one of those who in Lebanon would work as cleana or maybe taxi driva; you see the world does not turn around israel; people have other more important issues; to be honest with you if israel was not stirring in the mud i wouldnt even care to know where israel is; however in every act of terrorism you see the name of israel in it: thus, logically, i would raise an honest question: isnt israel behind these terrorist acts? I knew a yahoodi who cut his hand by letting his car fall on it to get few millions from the insurance and then after he lost his arm he cried: oh my rolex. So you nurture terrorism which intentionally hits you as you planned so you go like sissy beggars to america: we want money and we want weapons to defend ourselves; we are an endangered species. All what i told you is that america got your game, had enough with you and does not have enough money for you anymore and foremost does not need you: usa is in the middle east itself. Further america has changed priorities: americas interest come first then if any rests remain the jewish lobby may collect them from the ground 

        • nayyashAl3arab

          jews do well in killing from far; dont mix jews with america; its a challenge for you; watch israel from now on and you will see: you will be more hungry than biafra children at their time. I can also claim that me and bill gates are billionaires. You made some progress because yoiu managed to crook and beg some american money; what are you going to do now? wait and see; it is not a threat it is rather a promise: you will regret the moment you were born; you will curse the day you were called jews; you will even beg saoudis to let you work in cleaning their camel stables: reverse history will be applicable; you fled from medina and now you will flee away from israel back to medina camel stables as cleaners maybe dissimulated as thieves or salafis; anyhow you already have the infrastructure of salafis: you are circumcised.
          P.S./ no christian would ever accept to be called arab; no shia neither; i know some jews call themselves arabs to beg some arabic food in the arabic countries they live in

        • nayyashAl3arab

          I am glad we managed to show people who still believe israel can be a friend how much israeli people hate Lebanon; your logorrhea is not of any importance to be even read: actually i shut my nostrils while trying to diagonally go thru this rubbish; i will omit to retaliate; Lebanon does not need a testimony of an american jewish refugee whether in new york or in israel to know what it is: 7000 year of culture; it hurts you hahahahahaha.
          I myself used to believe in peace with israel till i realised israelis are  a special species, i said simian species just to give it a name, but you are much more monstruous than the simian species and america as well as the world is realising it day after day; your treachery does not pass anymore; time is ticking; the end is near

        • AntiFSA

          What is your beloved IsraeHELL going to do now. The US is starting to distance themselves from you. Don’t be surprised though, they have done this with all their so called allies. Lets see how big your balls are now that you are left all alone like a sitting duck. (Quack Quack).    

        • Pass26

          let’s see what happens when Hezbullpigs loses Syria… I’ll take that bet.(oink oink)

        • nayyashAl3arab

          ya hmar ya ibn al hmar; oops sorry for the hmar; aramean is the mother of hebrew; aramean which is the language of phoenician descendants is the mother language from which came arabic and hebrew; and you claim to be more educated than us; hhhhhhhhhhhhh

        • Hannibal

          Pass26,
          The Phoenicians spoke Phoenician proto-Aramaic which evolved into Hebrew and Aramaic. The Hebrew letters were derived from the Phoenician Alphabet and not the other way around.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well you can utter any stupidity you want; call us pigs or others; does it really matter; does yyour opinion really matter; i believe you are just bringing lower the country you claim to represent as i qualified it earlier a stable or an animal farm. hizbollah is foremost a lebanese organisation which does not need syria for its survival; further let me give you breaking news: assadism is going nowhere; ask your american masters; i do not expect from a jewish refugee slave to know what their masters are planning

        • Hannibal

          One more thing, stop insulting the whole of Lebanon because a couple of people insulted you… The majority of Lebanese are against killing… We as you, have religious nuts, or have you forgotten your orthodox cancerous people who take take take from Israel and never pay taxes? Your women are afraid of walking on the same street as those nitwit backward looking  look-alike monkeys…

        • Pass26

          Hannibal (meaning “Baal (the master) graces me” in Hebrew):

          Aramaic is distinct (much younger) script and language from Phoenician. The phoenician alphabet and the Hebrew alphabet were the same until the Judean elite changed it to the Assyrian or Aramaic script in 515 BC (though the original script survived for holy texts well into the dead sea scroll era). If I were allowed to post links here I would show you engravings and you would not be able to distinguish which were phoenician and which were hebrew. Also the phoenicians(who, again, did not call themselves that) had this in common with Israelites (apart from Hiram having Israelite parents Like Dido of Carthage (“new city” in Hebrew)): rule by judges called shofetim (Hebrew), worship of ashera trees (from where the very word “Israel” comes from) temples at first with no representation of a god, only a flame and empty throne. temples with two pillars in front, circumcision, no eating of pork. expiatory sacrifices and burnt offerings almost identical to leviticus. this is on top of a same language, cities exchanged back and forth, cooperation in building and joint fleets to travel and colonize the mediterranean.  the very name of the “phoenician” letters are hebrew words perfectly describing their shapes. perhaps most telling is the name phoenician. it probably comes from the Greek for the purple dye the phoenicians became famous for. this purple dye, from the murex shell of which there are stil heaps in tyre, is EXACTLY the same dye that the Israelites used for temple worship and for their tzitziot strings (represented in the current flag of the state of Israel).  The Israelis rediscovered how to do this process in 1982.  No other culture uses this process.  Also, the phoenician cities emerged as powerful urban centers in 1200 BC precisely when Israel was forming its kingdom from loose tribes.

          Moreover, recent genetic studies have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that north african jews descend from phoenician and israelite raders who colonized he mediterranean.  again, i woud provide links if this website allowed me to.

          That is for all you haters.  If you do have any connection to the phoenicians (very unlikely as the original phoenicians were dispersed and assimilated following the invasion by assyrians and neo babylonians that also destroyed the first Israelite kingdoms) then you are yourselves israelites.  So stop saying in every one of you ridiculous comments how Hitler should have finished the job, and then complain about Israel’s lack of love or whatever. 

          The statistics below, which show which nation likely is the real heir to the inventors of the alphabet, are all from official sources and can be checked easily. If lebanon was so powerful before Israel “stole” its money, how did Israel pull it off?

          You have no case and no reason to be so stupidly hateful and genocidal.  Evolve.  Things are nice down here. We don’t persecute Christians, kill reporters or burn KFCs for stupid filsm. And we make much much much better movies than Copts. Steven Spielberg anyone? Harvey Weinstein?

        • Pass26

          Nayyash you are too vulgar, racist and stupid for me to keep humoring you. Your type of proud, violent, intolerant idiocy is why the Middle East (outside of Israel) is such an embarrassing toilet.  You belong with Hizbullshit.

        • Pass26

          Hannibal your portrayal of Israel and its orthodox is largely a fiction (and a bit too hateful.. cancerous?). But you are right, Lebanon is not its idiots like Nayyash and its murder supporters like antiFSA.  I think that if Lebanon lags behind Israel and behind where it belongs it is because pigs like nasrallah and Arafat before him have ruined it and chased away your natives.  One day when your government realizes who its real enemies are i am sure you will be back on top like your diasporas.

        • MekensehParty

          Y’all a bunch of retards who look at the glory of the past to justify your disgraceful present. Arabs, Israelis, Phoenicians, Arameans, Perse, Copts… you shamed your millenias of (common) History by turning to pre-History creatures. You think you’re very different just because of a line called border, what you don’t know is that you are exactly the same in your barbaric fundamental ways and no illusionary line can hide that.
          Anyway, as History taught very well, barbarism is its own enemy and as we can clearly see today, the region is cleaning itself through more and more violent barbaric act. All of the ME has turned into a giant Sodom and Gomorrah and the fire is spreading…
          so keep arguing who invented the hummus…

        • Pass26

          Mekenseh, Israel in reality (not the lies you are told on campuses by agents of the MB) is everything BUT barbaric. It is one of the most evolved, open, tolerant and pluralistic societies on earth on top of being one of the most scientifically advanced and literate.  Israel has won Nobel prizes in every major discipline and produces breakthroughs (including the phone or computer you are using now) every day.  Sorry to disappoint.

        • 5thDrawer

          Well, we won”t mention the child-jails today, Pass26.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          you need to review history boy; i am not here to teach you; aramaic is the mother language of hebrew and arabic; do not confuse the issue; phoenician is much older true but aramaic is still the mother language of hebrew and arabic; assyrian and aramaic are not the same language however aramaic is mother language of assyrian too; further i am not racist at all; i have plenty of jewish friends; i am for peace but with people like you one needs to be a wolf in order not to be devoured by wolves. How could i be racist if i used to support you against the palestinians? this just proves to me that you are just a racist selfish yourself who just cares about israel and for that task you do not care if you burn countries: didn’t you allow joumblatt to massacre the christians in the mountains who were at  that time your allies? if you are a man, am sure you are not, and if you have a grain of honesty, i am sure you do not, answer this question. If you got no answer then shut up and get away from a lebanese blog;  go to jewish blogs to beg some money from america; this is what you need most now

        • nayyashAl3arab

          just for your own information my wife is jewish, lebanese jew, and she shares my ideas; is she racist too?

        • Pass26

          yes. she is. and it’s probably not her fault.  she deserves to feel that her people have a right to equality and a country too and not be threatened by bearded pigs who target children or violent maniacs who support them. i pity her living with someone who condones genocide so easily. (and who knows absolutely NOTHING about Aramaic or ancient languages.)  and invents tales of christians being killed by israel — as if before we got here you were all giving each other handjobs and singing kumbaya…. what a crock — you have always and will always kill each other without regard for civilians at all and then whine to us about defending ourselves. and anyway, we armed the native christians, and their officers find refuge here today still since the debacle exit from south lebanon which sadly left the Christians exposed to hizbullpigs…

          And don’t fool yourself, what you do is not supporting the palestinians it is hating Israel like 99% of the middle east which is why you are all getting nowhere. supporting the palestinians would be helping their leaders who actually give a shit about the people as opposed to some empty dream of jihad that translates into impotent men blowing up buses of school children and pretending they are heroes and not scum for doing it. Israel cares more about the palestinians then you and that is why they have infinitely more rights in israel and the territories than they do in lebanon. you care about the palestinians? fight so that they can at least own the land they live on or go to university in lebanon where they have lived for generations.  

          There are very smart, decent people on these pages and I am here to try to see what they have to say and to try again to make them understand that what is portrayed of israel in lebanon is mainly libel and slander to enable hizbullpig to enslave your country. the christians of lebanon are like the jews of israel natives and ancient in this land. we have no reason whatsoever to be at war — we have no reason to be at war with ANY of lebanon at all. Iran is calling the shots and pitting us against each other. but every time i come here i see among the comments a bunch of monsters praising Nasrallah and Assad, modern day hitlers (and hitler himself!!) and blaming israel for everything including their small penises. we can disagree about details and i don’t think israel is perfect at all.  but to the hypocrites like nayyash and AntiFSA who in the same breathe whine about imagined israeli massacres, celebrate the massacrers of israelis and then suggest Hitler should have done a more thorough job, i will always be hostile. cause they are the enemies of lebanon and israel and decency everywhere.

        • saoudiAhbal

          well my wife converted to messianic jew; jew for Jesus; and i myself do not generalise: i told you before i have many jewish friends; but you dont seem to understand except what they tamed you to learn. Not all jews are bad; but a practising jew like a practising sunna is bad because, i do not mind if you worship  a pig, but so long as your belief does not exteriorise and you keep it for you it does not hurt. Further, i told youy, i was before BELIEVER IN PEACE WITH ISRAEL. I DO NOT INVENT ANY LIES ABOUT YOUR GENOCIDE OF CHRISTIANS IN CHOUF AREA AS WELL AS WHAT YOU DID TO THE SOUTH LEBANESE ARMY OF LAHAD: YOU WITHDREW LIKE PIGS WITHOUT EVEN INFORMING YOUR ALLIES AND LEFT THEM AS AN EASY PREY TO HIZBOLLAH. IF THIS IS THE WAY YOU REWARD YOUR ALLIES THEN YOU ARE TELLING ME A LOT ABOUT YOUR HONOUR AND HONESTY. AT LEAST HIZBOLLAH  HAVE A WORD: YOU FORGOT WHEN HASSAN NASRALLAH USED TO TELL YOU HAIFA WA MA BA3DA HAYFA!!!!!LOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL REMEMBER THIS AND GO PEE IN YOUR UNDERWEAR…THIS TIME HE PROMISED YOU MORE THAN THAT AND GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW TRUTHFUL HE IS

        • saoudiAhbal

          For your govern i never said i support the palestinans; arent they same species as you are? anjass sha3b bi akdass ard. Please do me a favour: google aramaic and hebrew and learn about the origin of hebrew.

        • Pass26

          Saoudi I was responding to Nayyash. The Hebrew language and Phoenician language are the same (with extremely minor dialectical differences, maybe).  The Hebrew SCRIPT was also the same until it was CHANGED by the Judean elite in under the rule of Persian Cyrus in Jerusalem in 510 BC (circ.). 

        • Pass26

          Saoudi your other post is a frothing rant fit for Arab TV but not civilized people. I think how Israel withdrew from Lebanon is a shame.  They should have kept arming the Christians.  But don’t accuse us of genocide especially when the only ones killing each other are you.  And your leaders daily wish for genocide upon us. Nasrallah will drag Lebanon into another ugly, needless war… and it wil be worse than last time. For both sides.

  • ignorantarabs

    He was a Coptic Christian living in California not a Jewish man.

    • nayyashAl3arab

      we know the yahood are like hirbeyeh (chameleons) they fake anything; their fingerprints in all crimes are very clear even to blind people

      • ignorantarabs

        Ok? So, no matter what the facts are you’re still going to blame the Jews.  I guess you will believe what you want to believe, even when the guy came out and admitted he was involved. Sorry for wasting your time. Have fun in lala land.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well i pity the jews; they missed many occasions to have peace; now time for regrets; i believe the people are as nice as in most countries but it is the administration which is sick

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well i base myself on facts & not beliefs: FACT/ israel massacred the christians of the mountains with the help of joumblatt; so dont come now begging for christian charity; only a stupid lebanese christian will forgive  you this & i guarantee you, you will pay for it sooner or later

        • nayyashAl3arab

          i do not base myself on beliefs; only on facts; what people say and reality are two different entities

        • saoudiAhbal

          sir; this is a lebanese blog; why do you come here begging pity & propagating israel; do we go to your bs doing same?we are not interested in the fate of israel; Lebanon is our goal not israel and its well being; you managed to crook the protestants by telling them that israel is part of prophecy; it is not working anymore. Try something else

      • ignorantarabs

        Ok? So, no matter what the facts are you’re still going to blame the Jews.  I guess you will believe what you want to believe, even when the guy came out and admitted he was involved. Sorry for wasting your time. Have fun in lala land.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well i base myself on facts & not beliefs: FACT/ israel massacred the christians of the mountains with the help of joumblatt; so dont come now begging for christian charity; only a stupid lebanese christian will forgive  you this & i guarantee you, you will pay for it sooner or later

      • 5thDrawer

        No, ‘we’ don’t.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          obviously you know very little; please do not take it as a personnal attack, it is so obvious from your writings that i did not even need to remind you of it till now; you try to embellish emptiness by prose and poetry; you said it yourself university (education and knowledge) is a useless accessory. Further i can confirm, even though i am not a historian yet there are certain areas in history i master well, that your history background is very limited to wiki and google; as i said previously these could be a treasure in information, however like gold or petroleum, both treasures found crude in nature, they need refinement and purification; for these latter tasks experts are needed not just google-ists and wiki-peeists

        • saoudiAhbal

          so now you know

        • saoudiAhbal

          in response to pass: i see you are begging for your home & then you end up by biting:”deal with it”. There is contradiction here. Begging and arrogance do not go in pair. Originally Lebanon did not deny you your rights; unfortunately, because Lebanon was not a war country, you defused your hate to the arabs on it. Your problem was with the arabs; you drove Lebanon unto it by miscalculating that Lebanon is so weak that it will fall. End result now you are begging for peace with Lebanon: you should have seized your chance in due time.
          Second, you know very well and actually much better than i do that the one which makes rain and good weather is USA; do not search for noon at 14:00pm. If usa wants you to stay then you will stay. It is there you ought to beg, not here with us. The same error of calculation you did with assad: you thought he will fall in less than 24 hours; true but only if america wants; hence you can see america and you are not on same wavelength anymore; if i were you this would worry me; maybe it is high time to stop being arrogant and recognise americas good towards you; maybe also start looking for real peace & not playing tricks and games that were good 40 years ago but not anymore  in the era of internet: even 5thdrawer can know your plots by wikiiiing them

      • 5thDrawer

        No, ‘we’ don’t.

      • Guest

        are you calling your wife a chameleon?  you said she was jewish didn’t you?

        • saoudiAhbal

          since the advent of mohammadanism & after your exodus from medina you always lived as dhimmis in the middle east; actually many jews hiding from aysha’s sword built shiism according to sunna philosophy: your allies

        • Guest

          yeah well it will be a while before I base my understanding of History on the Sunnah. I think the Shiites’s existence might have a little to do with Muslim hordes storming into Persia and imposing their will… In any case, whatever we suffered under Islam is over. We are back home.  And all that we want is our home, nothing more.  Deal with it.

      • Guest

        are you calling your wife a chameleon?  you said she was jewish didn’t you?

      • Hannibal

        I thought your war is with Zion not the Jews… Come on man stop insulting their religion and kind. I know a lot of Jews who are anti-zionists and even more who are born Jews but do not subscribe to their religion. Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky are both anti-Israelis and pro-Palestinians. You do no respect to their cause which came at a high price for their views. You may insult the Israeli government and zionists but stop bashing the Jews.

        • Guest

          Real Jews do not accept to live as Dhimmis. The first commandment in the Torah to Abraham is to move to Israel. Every prayer in Judaism is about Israel. Real Judaism IS Zionism (and Zionism is nothing but the belief that Jews too have a right to self-determination — what in the world is wrong with that?  Why should the Arabs have 22 (dysfunctional) states and the Jews not even a single tiny one? The Palestinians should have accepted to build the first state of Palestine in history next to Israel in 1947 as they were offered and none of this would be upon us.)

        • Hannibal

          @Pass26:disqus  Nobody wants to live as Dhimmis… I am not against of Israel’s existence. I am against their policies. For instance they should allow the Palestinians to have a state and to let the refugees go back home. Also as I said before Judaism is a religion NOT a nation. I am against any state, which motto is a religion. and Finally, stop expanding into Palestinian land. Your argument is empty, Can you imagine today the Native Americans reclaiming America? and their plight is MUCH recent than yours. Jews have every right to Palestine as much as Palestinians have every right to it as well. Your state is an Apartheid state. You people can and should live together like the Moslems and Christians live side by side in Lebanon. Yes we do have our problems because of extremists BUT I guarantee you they WILL be defeated. 

        • saoudiAhbal

          buddy, listen: jews and israel are same; it is a political belief; like sunna & sharia is same;: a political party. i do not insult judaism but israel is the land of jews hence the confusion; you forgot my wife is a jew & we live in ashrafieh, few kilometers away from dahieh; so my children could have been jews but we baptised them in maronite rite. i am not pro palestinian actually i am more anti pâlestinian than the jews however, i do not trust the jews anymore & i am trying to spread the message to whomever is falling into that trap: PLEASE NEVER EVER TRUST A JEW

        • Guest

          Hannibal

          It is the Palestinians who keep refusing a state (the first “Palestine” ever) and choosing war instead. And then they whine of the result of war. Like bratty children.  Like the supposed “refugees” who left because of a genocidal war that they started and lost and despite Israel asking them in its very declaration of independence to stay. The proof of what I say is that those Arabs who did stay are thriving Israelis and are the only Arabs with full democratic rights in the Middle East.  And asking for “refugees” to come back to Israel is asking for Israel to be destroyed. Let the Palestinians build their State (in addition to Jordan which is also 70% Palestinian) and absorb their supposed refugees (who are only refugees because you won’t integrate them) there. Israel absorbed way more real refugees from Arab countries and they are now productive, happy citizens. You do not get to decide for Jews if they are a people or a religion. Just like Jews do not get to decide that the collection of Arabs from all over the Middle East started calling themselves Palestinians in 1967 is not a people. They are if they say they are. And whatever you may think, wrongly, about Jews’ claim (and yes, American Indians, like Jews, should get PART of their land back), ZIonism only asks for PART of the land. It has always been open to sharing. It is the Arabs who always refuse to share.Saoudi Should I not trust all Christians because of Aoun? The withdrawal from Lebanon was a mess and it is Ehud Barak you should not trust.  In any case, I am not sure that Israel owes anybody anything.  It is certainly more trustworthy to others than others are to it.I think we should call it a day.

      • Hannibal

        I thought your war is with Zion not the Jews… Come on man stop insulting their religion and kind. I know a lot of Jews who are anti-zionists and even more who are born Jews but do not subscribe to their religion. Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky are both anti-Israelis and pro-Palestinians. You do no respect to their cause which came at a high price for their views. You may insult the Israeli government and zionists but stop bashing the Jews.

        • Guest

          Real Jews do not accept to live as Dhimmis. The first commandment in the Torah to Abraham is to move to Israel. Every prayer in Judaism is about Israel. Real Judaism IS Zionism (and Zionism is nothing but the belief that Jews too have a right to self-determination — what in the world is wrong with that?  Why should the Arabs have 22 (dysfunctional) states and the Jews not even a single tiny one? The Palestinians should have accepted to build the first state of Palestine in history next to Israel in 1947 as they were offered and none of this would be upon us.)

        • Hannibal

          @Pass26:disqus  Nobody wants to live as Dhimmis… I am not against of Israel’s existence. I am against their policies. For instance they should allow the Palestinians to have a state and to let the refugees go back home. Also as I said before Judaism is a religion NOT a nation. I am against any state, which motto is a religion. and Finally, stop expanding into Palestinian land. Your argument is empty, Can you imagine today the Native Americans reclaiming America? and their plight is MUCH recent than yours. Jews have every right to Palestine as much as Palestinians have every right to it as well. Your state is an Apartheid state. You people can and should live together like the Moslems and Christians live side by side in Lebanon. Yes we do have our problems because of extremists BUT I guarantee you they WILL be defeated. 

        • Guest

          Hannibal

          It is the Palestinians who keep refusing a state (the first “Palestine” ever) and choosing war instead. And then they whine of the result of war. Like bratty children.  Like the supposed “refugees” who left because of a genocidal war that they started and lost and despite Israel asking them in its very declaration of independence to stay. The proof of what I say is that those Arabs who did stay are thriving Israelis and are the only Arabs with full democratic rights in the Middle East.  And asking for “refugees” to come back to Israel is asking for Israel to be destroyed. Let the Palestinians build their State (in addition to Jordan which is also 70% Palestinian) and absorb their supposed refugees (who are only refugees because you won’t integrate them) there. Israel absorbed way more real refugees from Arab countries and they are now productive, happy citizens. You do not get to decide for Jews if they are a people or a religion. Just like Jews do not get to decide that the collection of Arabs from all over the Middle East started calling themselves Palestinians in 1967 is not a people. They are if they say they are. And whatever you may think, wrongly, about Jews’ claim (and yes, American Indians, like Jews, should get PART of their land back), ZIonism only asks for PART of the land. It has always been open to sharing. It is the Arabs who always refuse to share.Saoudi Should I not trust all Christians because of Aoun? The withdrawal from Lebanon was a mess and it is Ehud Barak you should not trust.  In any case, I am not sure that Israel owes anybody anything.  It is certainly more trustworthy to others than others are to it.I think we should call it a day.

  • ignorantarabs

    He was a Coptic Christian living in California not a Jewish man.

    • nayyashAl3arab

      we know the yahood are like hirbeyeh (chameleons) they fake anything; their fingerprints in all crimes are very clear even to blind people

      • ignorantarabs

        Ok? So, no matter what the facts are you’re still going to blame the Jews.  I guess you will believe what you want to believe, even when the guy came out and admitted he was involved. Sorry for wasting your time. Have fun in lala land.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well i pity the jews; they missed many occasions to have peace; now time for regrets; i believe the people are as nice as in most countries but it is the administration which is sick

        • nayyashAl3arab

          well i base myself on facts & not beliefs: FACT/ israel massacred the christians of the mountains with the help of joumblatt; so dont come now begging for christian charity; only a stupid lebanese christian will forgive  you this & i guarantee you, you will pay for it sooner or later

        • nayyashAl3arab

          i do not base myself on beliefs; only on facts; what people say and reality are two different entities

        • saoudiAhbal

          sir; this is a lebanese blog; why do you come here begging pity & propagating israel; do we go to your bs doing same?we are not interested in the fate of israel; Lebanon is our goal not israel and its well being; you managed to crook the protestants by telling them that israel is part of prophecy; it is not working anymore. Try something else

      • 5thDrawer

        No, ‘we’ don’t.

        • nayyashAl3arab

          obviously you know very little; please do not take it as a personnal attack, it is so obvious from your writings that i did not even need to remind you of it till now; you try to embellish emptiness by prose and poetry; you said it yourself university (education and knowledge) is a useless accessory. Further i can confirm, even though i am not a historian yet there are certain areas in history i master well, that your history background is very limited to wiki and google; as i said previously these could be a treasure in information, however like gold or petroleum, both treasures found crude in nature, they need refinement and purification; for these latter tasks experts are needed not just google-ists and wiki-peeists

        • saoudiAhbal

          so now you know

        • saoudiAhbal

          in response to pass: i see you are begging for your home & then you end up by biting:”deal with it”. There is contradiction here. Begging and arrogance do not go in pair. Originally Lebanon did not deny you your rights; unfortunately, because Lebanon was not a war country, you defused your hate to the arabs on it. Your problem was with the arabs; you drove Lebanon unto it by miscalculating that Lebanon is so weak that it will fall. End result now you are begging for peace with Lebanon: you should have seized your chance in due time.
          Second, you know very well and actually much better than i do that the one which makes rain and good weather is USA; do not search for noon at 14:00pm. If usa wants you to stay then you will stay. It is there you ought to beg, not here with us. The same error of calculation you did with assad: you thought he will fall in less than 24 hours; true but only if america wants; hence you can see america and you are not on same wavelength anymore; if i were you this would worry me; maybe it is high time to stop being arrogant and recognise americas good towards you; maybe also start looking for real peace & not playing tricks and games that were good 40 years ago but not anymore  in the era of internet: even 5thdrawer can know your plots by wikiiiing them

      • Pass26

        are you calling your wife a chameleon?  you said she was jewish didn’t you?

        • saoudiAhbal

          since the advent of mohammadanism & after your exodus from medina you always lived as dhimmis in the middle east; actually many jews hiding from aysha’s sword built shiism according to sunna philosophy: your allies

        • Pass26

          yeah well it will be a while before I base my understanding of History on the Sunnah. I think the Shiites’s existence might have a little to do with Muslim hordes storming into Persia and imposing their will… In any case, whatever we suffered under Islam is over. We are back home.  And all that we want is our home, nothing more.  Deal with it.

      • Hannibal

        I thought your war is with Zion not the Jews… Come on man stop insulting their religion and kind. I know a lot of Jews who are anti-zionists and even more who are born Jews but do not subscribe to their religion. Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky are both anti-Israelis and pro-Palestinians. You do no respect to their cause which came at a high price for their views. You may insult the Israeli government and zionists but stop bashing the Jews.

        • Pass26

          Real Jews do not accept to live as Dhimmis. The first commandment in the Torah to Abraham is to move to Israel. Every prayer in Judaism is about Israel. Real Judaism IS Zionism (and Zionism is nothing but the belief that Jews too have a right to self-determination — what in the world is wrong with that?  The Palestinians should have accepted to build the first state of Palestine in history in 1947 and none of this would be upon us.)

        • Hannibal

          @Pass26:disqus  Nobody wants to live as Dhimmis… I am not against of Israel’s existence. I am against their policies. For instance they should allow the Palestinians to have a state and to let the refugees go back home. Also as I said before Judaism is a religion NOT a nation. I am against any state, which motto is a religion. and Finally, stop expanding into Palestinian land. Your argument is empty, Can you imagine today the Native Americans reclaiming America? and their plight is MUCH recent than yours. Jews have every right to Palestine as much as Palestinians have every right to it as well. Your state is an Apartheid state. You people can and should live together like the Moslems and Christians live side by side in Lebanon. Yes we do have our problems because of extremists BUT I guarantee you they WILL be defeated. 

        • saoudiAhbal

          buddy, listen: jews and israel are same; it is a political belief; like sunna & sharia is same;: a political party. i do not insult judaism but israel is the land of jews hence the confusion; you forgot my wife is a jew & we live in ashrafieh, few kilometers away from dahieh; so my children could have been jews but we baptised them in maronite rite. i am not pro palestinian actually i am more anti pâlestinian than the jews however, i do not trust the jews anymore & i am trying to spread the message to whomever is falling into that trap: PLEASE NEVER EVER TRUST A JEW

        • Pass26

          Hannibal

          It is the Palestinians who keep refusing a state (the first “Palestine” ever) and choosing war instead. And then they whine of the result of war. Like bratty children.  Like the supposed “refugees” who left because of a genocidal war that they started and lost and despite Israel asking them in its very declaration of independence to stay. The proof of what I say is that those Arabs who did stay are thriving Israelis and are the only Arabs with full democratic rights in the Middle East.  And asking for “refugees” to come back to Israel is asking for Israel to be destroyed. Let the Palestinians build their State (in addition to Jordan which is also 70% Palestinian) and absorb their supposed refugees (who are only refugees because you won’t integrate them) there. Israel absorbed way more real refugees from Arab countries and they are now productive, happy citizens. You do not get to decide for Jews if they are a people or a religion. Just like Jews do not get to decide that the collection of Arabs from all over the Middle East started calling themselves Palestinians in 1967 is not a people. They are if they say they are. And whatever you may think, wrongly, about Jews’ claim (and yes, American Indians, like Jews, should get PART of their land back), ZIonism only asks for PART of the land. It has always been open to sharing. It is the Arabs who always refuse to share.Saoudi Should I not trust all Christians because of Aoun? The withdrawal from Lebanon was a mess and it is Ehud Barak you should not trust.  In any case, I am not sure that Israel owes anybody anything.  It is certainly more trustworthy to others than others are to it.I think we should call it a day.

  • Hannibal

    @MekensehParty:disqus Dude you’re too funny… Who invented Hummus? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    I myself think Tabbouli needs to be patented… It is quite an invention. lol

  • Hannibal

    @MekensehParty:disqus Dude you’re too funny… Who invented Hummus? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    I myself think Tabbouli needs to be patented… It is quite an invention. lol

  • Hannibal

    @MekensehParty:disqus Dude you’re too funny… Who invented Hummus? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    I myself think Tabbouli needs to be patented… It is quite an invention. lol