Proposed history textbook omits the Cedar revolution

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Phalange Party MP Sami Gemayel warned the government against approving the proposed history textbook that will be used in the Public School Curriculum because it failed to acknowledge the Cedar Revolution and other political phenomena in recent Lebanese history.

Gemayel said Tuesday during a press conference that any history textbook should be objective and impartial.

“History books tackle fundamental questions and any lack of objectivity and impartiality would compromise the Lebanese legacy of struggle.”

“Ignoring a large segment of the Lebanese population and the struggle of a large group of martyrs is a very serious issue,” Gemayel said.

“It is unacceptable that certain eras in history be abolished, for example the period between 1975 and 1976, during which hundreds of martyrs fell in defense of Lebanon,” Gemayel told a news conference.

“It is intolerable that the book speaks about one resistance. Selectivity here is a red line because we cannot forge a [viable] Lebanon while ignoring a segment of the Lebanese,” Gemayel cautioned.

He noted that the new history textbook addresses the Lebanese resistance against Israel but not the Lebanese resistance against Palestinian militias and the Syrian army during the Civil War (1975-1990).

Gemayel threatened to ban the proposed textbook :

“We warn that we will stage educational disobedience if the new book is approved by cabinet because we will not allow it to be used at schools.”

“Schools and teachers with close ties to us will be prevented from using the new history texbook in their classes,” the MP stressed

“The Lebanese generations do not know their own history and where they committed mistakes and made achievements,” he continued.

Gemayel gave the example of the Ottoman era in Lebanon, noting that some sides may consider the period as an occupation, while others don’t.

“This is where history comes in and we therefore call on the government to adopt a book that takes into consideration all points of views or at least recounts events objectively,” stressed the MP.

“A people without a history or past cannot build a future or learn from past mistakes,” he stated.

“We live in a diverse society and students should be given the opportunity to analyze events,” he added.

He also noted that some factions in Lebanon are not even mentioned in the history book, such as the Armenians.

“A million and a half Lebanese staged the 2005 Cedar Revolution and after a month and half intifada, they succeeded in ending the occupation on April 26, 2005,” Gemayel said

“Don’t the Lebanese have the right to remember this glorious development and name it as they like?” he asked.

“Objectivity in devising a new history book cannot be overlooked and if we want to build a future for ourselves, we have to recognize the other,” Gemayel stressed.

Prime Minister Najib Mikati said Monday that the country’s unified history curriculum should be developed independently of personal desires and considerations.

Over a million Lebanese , Chrstians, Druze and Muslims protestd in downtown Beirut on March 14, 2005 demanding Syria's withdrawal from Lebanon. Syria withdraw in April 2005 after 29 years of military presence

Controversy was sparked last month when it was revealed that the ministerial committee charged with developing the history curriculum had decided to omit the term “Cedar Revolution” when referring to the 2005 protests following the assassination of ex-Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

Instead, the 2005 events will be described as “a wave of protests.” According to Culture Minister Gaby Layyoun, the reason for such terminology is the fact that the phrase “Cedar Revolution” was invented by a U.S. official.

“We cannot keep such a phrase in the curriculum … [It] is sensitive to many in the country and it might create problems between people,” Layyoun , who is a member of the the Free patriotic Movement whose leader MP Michel Aoun is closely allied with Hezbollah said last Sunday

Hezbollah’s response

Hezbollah MP Mohammad Fneish said on Wednesday that the proposed changes to the Lebanese history textbook help to shed light on South Lebanon and the Bekaa.

“We proposed amendments to the new history book to emphasize the role of the regions of South Lebanon and the Bekaa, as well as the importance of the Palestinian struggle,” Fneish told Al-Rai Kuwaiti newspaper.

The MP also denied “the presence of a Hezbollah delegate” in the committee charged with drafting a new history book.

A dispute has erupted concerning the newly proposed history book and the mentioning of the 2005 Cedar Revolution.

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95 responses to “Proposed history textbook omits the Cedar revolution”

  1. 5thDrawer Avatar

    Oh my … is that ‘sensitive to many in the country’ ?? Really ???  OOOoooooo …. 🙂

    “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” …….
    Don’t need a big history book … just a list of names to reference on Wikipedia …. 😉  HAHAHAHHAHA  
    (Check … lots of scotch in the bunker … )

    1.  lol, you’ve gone mad! grab a bottle of vodka and clean yourself up 😉

  2.  Avatar

    Oh my … is that ‘sensitive to many in the country/ ?? Really ???  OOOoooooo …. 🙂

    “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” …….
    Don’t need a big book … just a list of names to reference on Wikipedia …. 😉  HAHAHAHHAHA

    1.  Avatar

       lol, you’ve gone mad! grab a bottle of vodka and clean yourself up 😉

  3. may God Bless and protect you Sami, a true Lebanese patriot willing to defend Lebanon and speak out against the regions criminals and ‘bullies’! The cedar revolution will never be eliminated from our history, we still have much more left to do! God bless Lebanon and those still standing for what we believe.

    1. THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20 Avatar
      THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20

      LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

      thats ur true Lebanese and Patriot,commonnnnnn Fadi what
      has he or his usless family contributed to Lebanon,wow
      with patriots like this guy no wonder why you guys respect
      the likes of Harriri and Geagea…Ses alot boss.

      1.  and what is your alternative? the status quo is unacceptable, criminals are running the country into the ground. Im sure if politicians like Dr Geagea and Sami were in control Lebanon would be a GEM for the world and all Lebanese to enjoy…Look around you, look at all the islamic controlled nations and tell me how life there is better than any western country…come on, no one is immigrating to islamic countries, they’re all going to western countries for a better life. Im proud to say I support Lebanon by supporting these very brave individuals. Not one politician in Lebanon can EVER fill Dr Geageas shoes, that is a fact.

        1. master09 Avatar
          master09

          Is it not funny that All the Arabs want to live the American dream. On the other hand they want to kill them. Arabs they are lost, it must be the heat.  

        2. dateam Avatar

          thats right fadi…not one lebanese person can ever fill gagae shoes or kill as many people as he did? lets put that in our history books….i mean its a joke….he talked about rafik hariri like he grew up with him all his life? he was in jail when rifiq was pm and saad got him out….seriously its a circus..

  4.  Avatar

    may God Bless and protect you Sami, a true Lebanese patriot willing to defend Lebanon and speak out against the regions criminals and ‘bullies’! The cedar revolution will never be eliminated from our history, we still have much more left to do! God bless Lebanon and those still standing for what we believe.

    1.  Avatar

      LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

      thats ur true Lebanese and Patriot,commonnnnnn Fadi what
      has he or his usless family contributed to Lebanon,wow
      with patriots like this guy no wonder why you guys respect
      the likes of Harriri and Geagea…Ses alot boss.

      1.  Avatar

         and what is your alternative? the status quo is unacceptable, criminals are running the country into the ground. Im sure if politicians like Dr Geagea and Sami were in control Lebanon would be a GEM for the world and all Lebanese to enjoy…Look around you, look at all the islamic controlled nations and tell me how life there is better than any western country…come on, no one is immigrating to islamic countries, they’re all going to western countries for a better life. Im proud to say I support Lebanon by supporting these very brave individuals. Not one politician in Lebanon can EVER fill Dr Geageas shoes, that is a fact.

        1.  Avatar

          Is it not funny that All the Arabs want to live the American dream. On the other hand they want to kill them. Arabs they are lost, it must be the heat.  

        2.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          thats right fadi…not one lebanese person can ever fill gagae shoes or kill as many people as he did? lets put that in our history books….i mean its a joke….he talked about rafik hariri like he grew up with him all his life? he was in jail when rifiq was pm and saad got him out….seriously its a circus..

  5. THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20 Avatar
    THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20

    Sami is right,

    This smart young man knows his politics almost as good as his uncle the backstabber
    israleie spy,the history books should be re written so we can talk about the phalange
    leadership that goes from his father to his grandfather and there “proud”ties with zionism,
    to the cowards that never considered the south of Lebanon as part of there Lebanon,
    as the cowards that danced and partied when the south was getting rained on by
    fire in 2006,yes Sami the next generation should defenitly know that the “gmayel” last name
    was indeed Isralei and not Lebanese,now eff off you usless bum.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” …….

      1. master09 Avatar
        master09

        That was me in school on many times, but I had to rite 
        HA BEND OVER 

    2.  whos fault was it the south was flattened? the divine one from persia had no hand in it? come on man, your divine leader is in bed with the zionists, you’re too blind to see that, they both have a common goal…

    3. LEBANON101 Avatar
      LEBANON101

      his grandfather had great ties with nazi germany and im pretty sure they are no zionist in any way shape or form. go learn your history you retarded iranian pig

    4. Leborigine Avatar
      Leborigine

      The same way hassouna and berri are indeed syrian and not Lebanese and are also backstabbing syrian spies. Rewrite the history books the way HA wants and filling it with lies like how syria has always had good intentions in Lebanon. It is really sad to have people like you who are proud to have a third world country like syria meddling in your own country. Very sad indeed!

    5. master09 Avatar
      master09

      What is the differance with half the Lebanese politicians who support and listen to Syria or Iran, oh sorry they get on the knees for Syria and Iran.
       The funny thing is the ones that fought against Syria like HA and M. Aoun are the biggest supporters and the ones that suck the hardest.
       

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar
        5thDrawer

        They should probably spend some time in jail like Geagea … would give the average politican some time to think if they did a little ‘solitary’ at least once in a life.
        And why could a politician not change over time? We all do to some extent. (depending on the # of scotches of course 😉 Geagea has been more correct and rational on many things lately … Gemayel may need some ‘think-time’ in future, but he’s right on this one. History courses should be factual and impartial.
         Put ALL the related books out on a shelf as required reading, gather the stories of individual experiences from some old folks, AND then allow the older students to add to the histories on Wikipedia … their best source at the moment.
        At least in the Wiki, what is verifiable, and what is not, is so noted. Some histories need filling in.
        And then, write a book that the young can understand from that – accurately.

  6.  Avatar

    Sami is right,

    This smart young man knows his politics almost as good as his uncle the backstabber
    israleie spy,the history books should be re written so we can talk about the phalange
    leadership that goes from his father to his grandfather and there “proud”ties with zionism,
    to the cowards that never considered the south of Lebanon as part of there Lebanon,
    as the cowards that danced and partied when the south was getting rained on by
    fire in 2006,yes Sami the next generation should defenitly know that the “gmayel” last name
    was indeed Isralei and not Lebanese,now eff off you usless bum.

    1.  Avatar

      “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” “Cedar Revolution” …….

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        That was me in school on many times, but I had to rite 
        HA BEND OVER 

    2.  Avatar

       whos fault was it the south was flattened? the divine one from persia had no hand in it? come on man, your divine leader is in bed with the zionists, you’re too blind to see that, they both have a common goal…

    3.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      his grandfather had great ties with nazi germany and im pretty sure they are no zionist in any way shape or form. go learn your history you retarded iranian pig

    4.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      The same way hassouna and berri are indeed syrian and not Lebanese and are also backstabbing syrian spies. Rewrite the history books the way HA wants and filling it with lies like how syria has always had good intentions in Lebanon. It is really sad to have people like you who are proud to have a third world country like syria meddling in your own country. Very sad indeed!

    5.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      What is the differance with half the Lebanese politicians who support and listen to Syria or Iran, oh sorry they get on the knees for Syria and Iran.
       The funny thing is the ones that fought against Syria like HA and M. Aoun are the biggest supporters and the ones that suck the hardest.
       

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        They should probably spend some time in jail like Geagea … would give the average politican some time to think if they did a little ‘solitary’ at least once in a life.
        And why could a politician not change over time? We all do to some extent. (depending on the # of scotches of course 😉 Geagea has been more correct and rational on many things lately … Gemayel may need some ‘think-time’ in future, but he’s right on this one. History courses should be factual and impartial.
         Put ALL the related books out on a shelf as required reading, gather the stories of individual experiences from some old folks, AND then allow the students to add to the histories on Wikipedia … their best source at the moment.
        At least in the Wiki, what is verifiable, and what is not, is so noted. Some histories need filling in.

  7. MekensehParty Avatar
    MekensehParty

    Hahaha a country without history, interesting!

    1. Leborigine Avatar
      Leborigine

      It has more history than you can cope with. Ignorance is bliss to some people.

      Jealousy… is a mental cancer. B C Forbes

  8.  Avatar

    Hahaha a country without history, interesting!

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      It has more history than you can cope with. Ignorance is bliss to some people.

      Jealousy… is a mental cancer. B C Forbes

  9. Just like the Palestinians, hezbollah wants to rewrite history so they are possibly someday relevant…

    1. THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20 Avatar
      THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20

      Allah,Lebnan,Netanyahu ou bas,

      thats the phalange chant at rallies..

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        It’s the ‘chanters’s choice’ … equality in chants is good. Pick your poison sort of thing … out of the 4 things.
        “Cedar Revolution”

      2.  why dont you move back to Iran or arabia or wherever your mother country is? Lebanon is no longer open to squatters, the tides are shifting back to our ancestral roots. u can hate on us all you want, it wont deter us one bit.

      3. Leborigine Avatar
        Leborigine

        It is better than Allah, Libnan assad ou bas you POS!

      4. Hannibal Avatar
        Hannibal

        Whether you like it or not the phalange party and the LF make up the majority of Christians in Lebanon. Your ally orangina is delusional and even your sayyed knows it. Now the issue at hand is simple… You either come to grip with reality and embrace Lebanon as a country for everyone and we accept your martyrs as you accept ours or it will be an all out war. Believe me when I tell you Iran won’t come to your rescue when the Lebanese people in all their sect descend upon you with rage. if you do not believe it ask the PLO before you and they will tell you not to mess up with the Lebanese. How are you gonna hold your grounds this time ya zake if the Lebanese attack you from the North, the Israelis from the South and the Free Syrians from the East? Oh wait I forgot you have the mediterranean and you can use your chadors as floating devices. Lebanon IS FOR THE LEBANESE… It will NEVER be ARAB and NEVER EVER BE PERSIAN. Khoda 7afez ya khayen…

    2. THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20 Avatar
      THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20

      We dont need history bout anyone accept the gmayel family,
      cuz they are the defeniton of relevance,if your from tel aviv ofcourse.

      ALLAAHHHHHHHH,LEBNAAAAN,NETANYAHUUUUUUUUUUUU OU BAS

      1. Fadi81 Avatar

         you can probably do without the ‘ou’ between netanyahu and bas, it may flow better…but honestly bro, how does the ‘other’ chant go again, oh right like this “Allah, Irania, wil daiya kula”! at least the other chants include the word Lebanon…

      2. LEBANON101 Avatar
        LEBANON101

        you must not be from the south , I and anyone else who is really from, and in , the  south knows hizballah has more ties with israel than any other lebanese party, they dont really represent Lebanese shias, not even AMAL does anymore. hizballah is islamic iran’s version of shia. any real shia knows the enemies of lebanon is the syrian regime, the Palestinians who caused all our trouble (war of the camps), radical Islamist, and israel if you start with them first . YOU ARE FROM IRAN 

        1.  Its about money. When Israel occupied S.Lebanon the SLA was mainly Shia and some Christians because they paid people and had the hospitals and all the other stuff. Now HA is in control and spending money so people will support them and once they are gone a new group will come in and the people will support them. Its all about money nothing else.

  10. Just like the Palestinians, hezbollah wants to rewrite history so they are possibly someday relevant…

    1.  Avatar

      Allah,Lebnan,Netanyahu ou bas,

      thats the phalange chant at rallies..

      1.  Avatar

        It’s the ‘chanters’s choice’ … equality in chants is good. Pick your poison sort of thing …
        “Cedar Revolution” 

      2.  Avatar

         why dont you move back to Iran or arabia or wherever your mother country is? Lebanon is no longer open to squatters, the tides are shifting back to our ancestral roots. u can hate on us all you want, it wont deter us one bit.

      3.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        It is better than Allah, Libnan assad ou bas you POS!

      4. Whether you like it or not the phalange party and the LF make up the majority of Christians in Lebanon. Your ally orangina is delusional and even your sayyed knows it. Now the issue at hand is simple… You either come to grip with reality and embrace Lebanon as a country for everyone and we accept your martyrs as you accept ours or it will be an all out war. Believe me when I tell you Iran won’t come to your rescue when the Lebanese people in all their sect descend upon you with rage. if you do not believe it ask the PLO before you and they will tell you not to mess up with the Lebanese. How are you gonna hold your grounds this time ya zake if the Lebanese attack you from the North, the Israelis from the South and the Free Syrians from the East? Oh wait I forgot you have the mediterranean and you can use your chadors as floating devices. Lebanon IS FOR THE LEBANESE… It will NEVER be ARAB and NEVER EVER BE PERSIAN. Khoda 7afez ya khayen…

    2.  Avatar

      We dont need history bout anyone accept the gmayel family,
      cuz they are the defeniton of relevance,if your from tel aviv ofcourse.

      ALLAAHHHHHHHH,LEBNAAAAN,NETANYAHUUUUUUUUUUUU OU BAS

      1.  Avatar

         you can probably do without the ‘ou’ between netanyahu and bas, it may flow better…but honestly bro, how does the ‘other’ chant go again, oh right like this “Allah, Irania, wil daiya kula”! at least the other chants include the word Lebanon…

      2.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        you must not be from the south , I and anyone else who is really from, and in , the  south knows hizballah has more ties with israel than any other lebanese party, they dont really represent Lebanese shias, not even AMAL does anymore. hizballah is islamic iran’s version of shia. any real shia knows the enemies of lebanon is the syrian regime, the Palestinians who caused all our trouble (war of the camps), radical Islamist, and israel if you start with them first . YOU ARE FROM IRAN 

        1. Bad Ass Avatar

           Its about money. When Israel occupied S.Lebanon the SLA was mainly Shia and some Christians because they paid people and had the hospitals and all the other stuff. Now HA is in control and spending money so people will support them and once they are gone a new group will come in and the people will support them. Its all about money nothing else.

  11. libnan1 Avatar

    Orange everywhere ….

    1. that looks more like red to me and that pic was taken before Aoun even returned to Lebanon and started his group.

      1. libnan1 Avatar

        The orange started before Aoun returned. That is why we are the ones that encouraged the revolution. No revolution would have ever happened without us and there will never be another revolution without us. 

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          You erased all your good deeds the minute Orangina stepped in Syria. He is old and will soon die and his party with him.

        2. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          You erased all your good deeds the minute Orangina stepped in Syria. He is old and will soon die and his party with him.

        3. No Harriri was killed thats what encouraged the revolution and in a few years your boy will be dead and Lebanon will live on.

          You know those people were gathered because they wanted Aouns new masters thrown out of Lebanon so dont you dare try to take claim over Harriris life and use it to your benefit.

          Aoun is a liar and a Narcissistic fool. He is on record claiming he wrote 1701 U.N resolution. He is on record saying he wrote 1559 U.N resolution. He is on record saying HA and Syria killed Harriri. Not written accounts but multiple video accounts posted all over the web with him saying it over and over. You know he is a liar and you also know he is an idiot but supporting him gives you attention and you crave that. You want to support the weird guy thinking its cool to have a mind of your own and it is unless youre supporting a clinically insane fool like Aoun. Your man has no credit. He left his men to die alone in the 90s, He forgot that 60% of his men were sunni in the 90s and they remained in the fight for 3 days after he left refusing to surrender witch is the reason most Lebanese missing in Syria are Sunni. Aoun is basically a piece of shit and I have no respect for him. I know you know that he is a fool and lie to yourself and I know you know that his entire group will fall apart as soon as he is dead. He said no one that loses in the elections should be in the cabinet but then used HA to force a criminal like Bassil in the government twice not once. Your boy is a complete joke and the next elections will prove it. I hope they let each sec vote for its own representatives since the seats are allocated by sect. If Aoun loses the Shia vote consider him finished because Christians hate him now.

          I read your comments and know what youre about. No reason to reply as you are a Aoun supporter and nothing will change your mind. Not trying to be rude but just dont want to have to keep typing the same thing over and over while you do the same.

  12.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Orange everywhere ….

    1. Bad Ass Avatar

       that looks more like red to me

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        The orange started before Aoun returned. That is why we are the ones that encouraged the revolution. No revolution would have ever happened without us and there will never be another revolution without us. 

        1. You erased all your good deeds the minute Orangina stepped in Syria. He is old and will soon die and his party with him.

        2. Bad Ass Avatar

          No Harriri was killed thats what encouraged the revolution and in a few years your boy will be dead and Lebanon will live on. I read your comments and know what youre about. No reason to reply as you are a Aoun supporter and nothing will change your mind. Not trying to be rude but just dont want to have to keep typing the same thing over and over while you do the same.

  13. Cedar7 Avatar

    He just wants to complain, what a hypocrite! He knows that if the resistance against the Palestinians is mentioned it will open the door to debates about the civil war which the government has declined to include as part of the curriculum for the past 20+ years. You can’t talk about the clashes some Lebanese militias had without putting it into context. Same goes for Syria. Wait who was it that accepted Syria’s involevment in Lebanon in the first place?

    Word of advice to everyone, take it for what it’s worth. Don’t remain a slave to the politicans in Lebanon. Funny many of us will defend them blindly. They are all corrupt and come from a sick racist political system. Asking me if I’m for the March 8 or 14th camp is like asking me which type of shit I’d prefer for breakfast. Have a nice day

  14.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    He just wants to complain, what a hypocrite! He knows that if the resistance against the Palestinians is mentioned it will open the door to debates about the civil war which the government has declined to include as part of the curriculum for the past 20+ years. You can’t talk about the clashes some Lebanese militias had without putting it into context. Same goes for Syria. Wait who was it that accepted Syria’s involevment in Lebanon in the first place?

    Word of advice to everyone, take it for what it’s worth. Don’t remain a slave to the politicans in Lebanon. Funny many of us will defend them blindly. They are all corrupt and come from a sick racist political system. Asking me if I’m for the March 8 or 14th camp is like asking me which type of shit I’d prefer for breakfast. Have a nice day

  15. dateam Avatar

    heres a thought for future history books….now that we know lebanon has discovered gas and oil how about the leb government pick out the top 1000 students in the country and give them scholorships in enginerring and science fields in the oil and gas insudtry so that we can do it ourselves and not become like the other arab countries that have to rely on the west to explore and run these fields…imagine how good that would be?

    1. Fadi81 Avatar

      Yes that is a brilliant idea.But to go back to your comment about Dr Geagea, I don’t think he’s anymore guilty of killing than any other man and woman who fought during those times, to me we are all equally guilty. But looking forward and looking at recent years I believe he and individuals like Sami seem to be the best we have for Lebanon. The LF disarmed, it didn’t take Lebanon down with it in a bloody battle, it did not start a war, it layed down its arms for the greater good, for Lebanon as a whole. Time for all other arms to be collected, and I guarantee you that crime and corruption will go down 10 fold. 

    2. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Well … somebody discovered it … HA exploits it … but the idea of teaching a viable trade is good.
      Universities obviously suck.

    3. master09 Avatar
      master09

      First the Politicians will fight for years on who they want to give the contract to, most will give it to a brother inlaw or son or best friend so half the money will return to them and Lebanon will continue to starve and beg on the streets.
      The Jews and cyprus are already underwater with planes to be up and pumping within 2 years. Lebanon will start 15 years from now. 
      The project is a US-Israel consortium consisting of Delek Drilling (15.6%), Avner Oil Exploration (15.6), Isramco Negev 2 (28.7), Dor Gas Exploration (4%) and the US drilling company Noble Energy Inc (36%) . They have all done test, Lebanon  still fighting with each other.

  16.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    heres a thought for future history books….now that we know lebanon has discovered gas and oil how about the leb government pick out the top 1000 students in the country and give them scholorships in enginerring and science fields in the oil and gas insudtry so that we can do it ourselves and not become like the other arab countries that have to rely on the west to explore and run these fields…imagine how good that would be?

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      Yes that is a brilliant idea.But to go back to your comment about Dr Geagea, I don’t think he’s anymore guilty of killing than any other man and woman who fought during those times, to me we are all equally guilty. But looking forward and looking at recent years I believe he and individuals like Sami seem to be the best we have for Lebanon. The LF disarmed, it didn’t take Lebanon down with it in a bloody battle, it did not start a war, it layed down its arms for the greater good, for Lebanon as a whole. Time for all other arms to be collected, and I guarantee you that crime and corruption will go down 10 fold. 

    2.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      Well … somebody discovered it … HA exploits it … but the idea of teaching a viable trade is good.
      Universities obviously suck.

    3.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      First the Politicians will fight for years on who they want to give the contract to, most will give it to a brother inlaw or son or best friend so half the money will return to them and Lebanon will continue to starve and beg on the streets.
      The Jews and cyprus are already underwater with planes to be up and pumping within 2 years. Lebanon will start 15 years from now. 
      The project is a US-Israel consortium consisting of Delek Drilling (15.6%), Avner Oil Exploration (15.6), Isramco Negev 2 (28.7), Dor Gas Exploration (4%) and the US drilling company Noble Energy Inc (36%) . They have all done test, Lebanon  still fighting with each other.

  17. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    sami there is a conspiracy againt lebanon from iran  aiming to convert lebanon to a  persian state ; and they have been building up a hezbollah militia for years ,who hide under the cover up  name of resistance ,which is actual a lying exuse so they could get more weapons from iran there real goal is to  hijack lebanon and convert it to a persian state , and  erasing the lebaneese people history is one of the step they take in order to accomplish there goal .

    1. dateam Avatar

      josephphdman…im sorry but i have to disagree…look around you as whats happening….the only conspiracy is that the west wants wants to carve up the middle east along sectarian lines…in order to divide and conquer…were it not for hzb mark my word the original reason why israel invaded in 82 was to push the palestinaians into southern lebanon and close them off…where would that have left lebanon? the problem of the arabs is the arabs themselves….look around at the hypocricy….saudia arabia and qatar are the biggest threat to arabs….do you blame iran when there are 45 american military bases around it pointing guns? we arabs are so gullible that we allow the sectarian game to be played against us by the west…its never been about that it should be about whats right and whats wrong….a perfect example is yemen….saleh is shiite controlled by saudia arabia…hes sitting at the ritz carlton in new york now and yemen had fair elections with only one candidate????? naher elbared in lebanon where did all these fighters come from? dont tell me syria? its the same people fighting in syria now armed and funded by the gulf states…..my fear is that if assad is not toppled where are all these mercenaries going to end up? they will probably end up in lebanon and this time my friend nahar elbared will be nothing compared to what may happen….

      1. MeYosemite Avatar
        MeYosemite

        I would disagree for the 82 events. Palestinians were already in south Lebanon, Israel invasion moved them back in the camps, and hzb has nothing to do with Israel leaving. Hzb did not exist then. Mourabitoun and Amal were the popular leaders in the south then. They withdrew to the 20km belt right after.

        1. dateam Avatar

          we know the hzb didnt exist til after the israeli invasion….my point is til this day if the israelis had the chance they would push the palestinians into lebanon and close it off…where does that leave us…there are papers i have read ( i will try and find them ) what if this scenario were to happen? the idea would be that they would force the christians to leave to france usa canada australia…it is a dangerous game being played now in syria and the salafis are being given alot of power by the gulf states and the west ( look at libya now )…look at gmayels comments this week where he has stated that he supports the governments position of not getting involved in syria…??? 

      2. MeYosemite Avatar
        MeYosemite

        I agree. But not like that. The idea of relocating the Palestinian to the south was partially an Arafat plan (don’t know who supported him), he wanted to move camps to the south. But that fell through as neither party in Lebanon agreed. Israel didn’t want a well armed army at it northern boundary neither. But the civil war started with the PLO weapons turning against the lebanese and there was the split of the lebanese army. That was back in the 70s where the damour massacre was a typical example. Pierre Gemayel brought in the Syrians to thwart the PLO plans. But the syrians had a plan of their ow;. The country was offered on a golden plate. Things took off in different directions as we know it.

        This topic brings distant memory forward: I was 17, damour crisis period, supported Bashir till 82 and left the party when hobeika took over.
        I was among the Christians to leave to US. Sacrificied enough then, and gave up as I realized as long catholic was printed on my ID, I was a fourth or maybe rate citizen after the Maronites, Shias, and Sunnis.

    2. MeYosemite Avatar
      MeYosemite

      I would agree of Iran intention. Many Lebanese like SSNP don’t believe in Lebanon, neither. I always questioned how a political party can exist if it challenges the sovereinty. They believe in a greater Syria. With Syria moving out of Lebanon, the power axis moved to Hzb who carved the vision of a great alliance with Iran Syria to take over Lebanon using Berri as a rubber stamp for an Islamic state. The west are weary of this alignment.
      Needless to say a war with israel is a Palestinians battle not iran or Hzb. It can be used as an excuse. Hzb are altering history for that purpose, put ideas in the heads that they won battles that never even existed. In a post below I responded to a post just below where there is a claim they pushed back the 82 invasion, but I am sure they didn’t exist then.

  18.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    sami there is a conspiracy againt lebanon from iran  aiming to convert lebanon to a  persian state ; and they have been building up a hezbollah militia for years ,who hide under the cover up  name of resistance ,which is actual a lying exuse so they could get more weapons from iran there real goal is to  hijack lebanon and convert it to a persian state , and  erasing the lebaneese people history is one of the step they take in order to accomplish there goal .

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      josephphdman…im sorry but i have to disagree…look around you as whats happening….the only conspiracy is that the west wants wants to carve up the middle east along sectarian lines…in order to divide and conquer…were it not for hzb mark my word the original reason why israel invaded in 82 was to push the palestinaians into southern lebanon and close them off…where would that have left lebanon? the problem of the arabs is the arabs themselves….look around at the hypocricy….saudia arabia and qatar are the biggest threat to arabs….do you blame iran when there are 45 american military bases around it pointing guns? we arabs are so gullible that we allow the sectarian game to be played against us by the west…its never been about that it should be about whats right and whats wrong….a perfect example is yemen….saleh is shiite controlled by saudia arabia…hes sitting at the ritz carlton in new york now and yemen had fair elections with only one candidate????? naher elbared in lebanon where did all these fighters come from? dont tell me syria? its the same people fighting in syria now armed and funded by the gulf states…..my fear is that if assad is not toppled where are all these mercenaries going to end up? they will probably end up in lebanon and this time my friend nahar elbared will be nothing compared to what may happen….

      1.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        I would disagree for the 82 events. Palestinians were already in south Lebanon, Israel invasion moved them back in the camps, and hzb has nothing to do with Israel leaving. Hzb did not exist then. Mourabitoun and Amal were the popular leaders in the south then. They withdrew to the 20km belt right after.

        1.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          we know the hzb didnt exist til after the israeli invasion….my point is til this day if the israelis had the chance they would push the palestinians into lebanon and close it off…where does that leave us…there are papers i have read ( i will try and find them ) what if this scenario were to happen? the idea would be that they would force the christians to leave to france usa canada australia…it is a dangerous game being played now in syria and the salafis are being given alot of power by the gulf states and the west ( look at libya now )…look at gmayels comments this week where he has stated that he supports the governments position of not getting involved in syria…??? 

      2.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        I agree. But not like that. The idea of relocating the Palestinian to the south was partially an Arafat plan (don’t know who supported him), he wanted to move camps to the south. But that fell through as neither party in Lebanon agreed. Israel didn’t want a well armed army at it northern boundary neither. But the civil war started with the PLO weapons turning against the lebanese and there was the split of the lebanese army. That was back in the 70s where the damour massacre was a typical example. Pierre Gemayel brought in the Syrians to thwart the PLO plans. But the syrians had a plan of their ow;. The country was offered on a golden plate. Things took off in different directions as we know it.

        This topic brings distant memory forward: I was 17, damour crisis period, supported Bashir till 82 and left the party when hobeika took over.
        I was among the Christians to leave to US. Sacrificied enough then, and gave up as I realized as long catholic was printed on my ID, I was a fourth or maybe rate citizen after the Maronites, Shias, and Sunnis.

    2.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      I would agree of Iran intention. Many Lebanese like SSNP don’t believe in Lebanon, neither. I always questioned how a political party can exist if it challenges the sovereinty. They believe in a greater Syria. With Syria moving out of Lebanon, the power axis moved to Hzb who carved the vision of a great alliance with Iran Syria to take over Lebanon using Berri as a rubber stamp for an Islamic state. The west are weary of this alignment.
      Needless to say a war with israel is a Palestinians battle not iran or Hzb. It can be used as an excuse. Hzb are altering history for that purpose, put ideas in the heads that they won battles that never even existed. In a post below I responded to a post just below where there is a claim they pushed back the 82 invasion, but I am sure they didn’t exist then.

  19. THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20 Avatar
    THESOUTHWILLRISEAGAIN20

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

    I just heard March 14 cancelled there annual cedar revolution
    party,lmaooooooooo they r so embarrased with how many people
    have left them and realized how small the crowds are getting ,
    the beggining of the end for March 14 is here,for CHRIST sakes
    they cant even get SADDO to attend his fathers memorial,its
    really getting bad,I knew this day was near,well at least the
    very few of you left are entertained and encouraged by Bashar
    stepping down,your leaders have been telling you this for a year
    now,maybe next year you guys can start the Syrian Revolution for Lebanon
    and start having annual rallies maybe one of these years your Cedar traitors
    will accomplish something maybe even at one point bring down Hafez JR….

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahh,but dont get your hopes up
    since seeing your leaders cant win at anything they do,goverment,may 7,
    march 14, cedar revolution,lmaoooo,what has march14 done that makes the
    few stick around,ohhhhhh i know what it is they hate march 8 that much
    that its better to follow a bunch of losers,and i mean losers by ever letter
    in that word……

    ALLLLAHHHHH,LEBANON,NATANYAHUUUUUUUUUUU OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU BASSSSS

    hahahhhhahhahahhahahahahahahahahahaaaahahhahahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahaaha

    NOOOOOOOO RALLLLLY FOR MARCH 14 this year,wallah it made my day…..what a joke
    of an alliance….btw is harriri officially out of politics….hahahahhahahahahaha

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar
      5thDrawer

      Amuriacain Dork.

  20.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

    I just heard March 14 cancelled there annual cedar revolution
    party,lmaooooooooo they r so embarrased with how many people
    have left them and realized how small the crowds are getting ,
    the beggining of the end for March 14 is here,for CHRIST sakes
    they cant even get SADDO to attend his fathers memorial,its
    really getting bad,I knew this day was near,well at least the
    very few of you left are entertained and encouraged by Bashar
    stepping down,your leaders have been telling you this for a year
    now,maybe next year you guys can start the Syrian Revolution for Lebanon
    and start having annual rallies maybe one of these years your Cedar traitors
    will accomplish something maybe even at one point bring down Hafez JR….

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahh,but dont get your hopes up
    since seeing your leaders cant win at anything they do,goverment,may 7,
    march 14, cedar revolution,lmaoooo,what has march14 done that makes the
    few stick around,ohhhhhh i know what it is they hate march 8 that much
    that its better to follow a bunch of losers,and i mean losers by ever letter
    in that word……

    ALLLLAHHHHH,LEBANON,NATANYAHUUUUUUUUUUU OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU BASSSSS

    hahahhhhahhahahhahahahahahahahahahaaaahahhahahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahaaha

    NOOOOOOOO RALLLLLY FOR MARCH 14 this year,wallah it made my day…..what a joke
    of an alliance….btw is harriri officially out of politics….hahahahhahahahahaha

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      Amuriacain Dork.

  21. FadiAbboud Avatar
    FadiAbboud

    Hezbollah wants to cover up and lie about History since it does not suit their interest, they want to mis-educate the younger generation and brainwash them with False Ideologies just like the backwards of governments of the rest of the middle east and much like the Turkish text books which omit the Armenian genocide or Iranian government telling its people that the Holocaust never happened…  

  22.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Hezbollah wants to cover up and lie about History since it does not suit their interest, they want to mis-educate the younger generation and brainwash them with False Ideologies just like the backwards of governments of the rest of the middle east and much like the Turkish text books which omit the Armenian genocide or Iranian government telling its people that the Holocaust never happened…  

  23. master09 Avatar
    master09

    I wonder what would happen if we had 2 million people protest  to rid the arms and weapons  not controlled by the state, like we had in 2005 now that will re rite the BOOKS. It want happen because the weapons are pointed at the Lebanese as well……….    

  24.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    I wonder what would happen if we had 2 million people protest  to rid the arms and weapons  not controlled by the state, like we had in 2005 now that will re rite the BOOKS. It want happen because the weapons are pointed at the Lebanese as well……….    

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