March 14 official demands clarifications from Jamaa Islamiyah

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March 14 General Secretariat coordinator Fares Soueid demanded on Saturday that MP al-Hout and Jamaa Islamiyah should clear the statements over the al-Fajr Brigades in order to put an end to any speculations,”

Soueid expressed surprise over the presence of an armed branch affiliated with the Jamaa Islamiyah.

“We stress that the March 14 allies are struggling to move to the state which is the only competent side tasked with defending Lebanon,” a statement by Soueid said.

Soueid noted that any weapons outside the Lebanese state “under any pretext” are unacceptable.

Jamaa Islamiyah’s MP Imad al-Hout unveiled on Saturday the creation of al-Fajr Brigades as the armed branch of the group.

He stressed that the group doesn’t want to control resistance in Lebanon and will only use its arms if the national security was under threat, “the weapons should only be used against Israel and shouldn’t be targeted towards the Lebanese.”.

He slammed those who are using sedition and sectarian rhetoric to create a rift between Lebanese. In a possible reference to Hezbollah

“They will not succeed in their plan,” al-Hout said during a seminar in Akkar.

He criticized the cabinet’s performance, stressing that it will “fall as soon as the Syrian regime collapses.”

Concerning the defense strategy, al-Hout stated that it’s unacceptable that one side controls the resistance.

“All the Lebanese people… should be under the state’s sovereignty,” he said.

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25 responses to “March 14 official demands clarifications from Jamaa Islamiyah”

  1. guss043 Avatar

    Bashir made a mistake and run for presidency , he should have been satisfied with what  we have ans build a wall separating the christian and moslem and just work on reconciliation with the Druze , we would have a nice enclave , as cardinal Bertoli suggested when he was sent from the Vatican in the early days of the civil war to mediate a solution, he end up saying that no matter what the reason is for the civil war , underneath is that the 2 religion Christianity and Moslem don’t mix up they are and I quote him ” Like oil and water ” . Just look at Nigeria they just created a brigade called ” Against western Civilization ” and warned the Christian which consist of 50 % of the population to leave  Nigeria. . Mr Fares I guess you are smart enough , the arm is to be used against Lebanese and mainly chrisrtians or shiites . Israel is last of wories of Jamaa Islamiya and Israel is not coming anytime soon to Lebanon, and Jamaa Islamiya doesn t scare the Jews at all !!!

    1. Beiruti Avatar

      Guss, the 5 principles of the Jamaa Islamiya …
      1. Spread the message of Islam.
      2. Organizing structures of members to the message of Islam culturally and socially.
      3. Protect themselves against the invasion of Western culture.
      4. Acting for a new society in which Islam governs individual behavior.
      5. Together the various mobilities Muslim around the back to basics.

      Jamaa Islamiya is just another shit stain to Lebanon.

      1. guss043 Avatar

        Niyilna bil Jamaa al Islamiya !! somehow many want to implement Islam, after 1400 years is it not yet implemented , I wonder what is not implemented yet !! 🙂

      2. I guess we Lebanese as a civilised society can not define what is right or wrong but we must always include a religion to tell us how to think and behave. Good Luck Lebanon for your bright future!

    2. Leborigine Avatar
      Leborigine

      Hi guss043,

      I sort of agree and disagree with you on a few aspects. As you probably know from earlier posts, I am big fan of Bashir and I agree 98% with all the decisions he made except for the killings he ordered by ID on Black Saturday or Sunday. Bashir could’ve opted for the easy way out and build a wall as you have suggested, and seperate the Xtians and the Muslims, but that would have gone against all the principals that he fought and died for. His death or martydom was the price he paid for the 10452 km2. He wanted all of Lebanon, with its Muslims, Druze and Xtians to live as Lebanese and put Lebanon first before religion and politics. So, IMAO I actually prefer what he did than build a wall. Lebanon will not be Lebanon without its Muslims, its Druze or its Xtians. Lebanon will be Lebanon when we are free from foreigners like the syrians, palestinians, iranians etc etc. 
      Water and oil do not mix when you leave them undisturbed, but they sure will mix well when you put them in a blender and beat the crap out of them. Australia has more than water and oil, actually over 200 races and religions, and they are living happily side by side with respect towards each other to the full extent of the law.
      Thats how Bachir would have wanted it! May he rest in peace.

      1. guss043 Avatar

        It is a long discussion, I am not sure to accuse Bashir of Black Saturday after his death without court, as no one accused Amal of the first killing of Christians the 3 persons who died coming from the Kuwait Rally and killed in Bekaa, ( John Basili etcc ) no one accused the SSNP of killing the 3 Christians who were the cause of Black Saturday, Black Saturday was an accumulation of serial killing of Christians in Kaa, in Akkar, in the South and blinding and killing a monk in Tripoli, so let;s leave this ugly past behind as all the bastards were pardoned by Taef and only Geagea went to Jail . we know well who started killing on Hawiye and wasn’t the Christian who start it this .
        As building the wall , I meant it more as a separation , as everyone can go teach whatever he wants and allow drink or don’t allow ( which it is now happening ,in Baalback and many Sunni area ).Bashir was going to proclaim his state prior to Israeli invasion , and he was planning to call for Lebanese to join him .We can’t keep dreaming and living in hope of having a state that is secular and religious leaders sit where they belong. As it is now most of the Chritian traditional post in government are lost,Berri  is capable to stop appointment of outside ambassador and consul i it is not filled with his people, Bashir called this country a piece of cake ( Kitaat Gateau ) to be shared with fierce sectarian feudal leaders , and yourself you want to mix them when more than half the christian left the country . Do you call Lebanon without Christian Lebanon ? and who you want to mix with when it is too late, why the Hizbollah are so in rush to buy the christian land > they have enough land to fit all their people, am not saying they hae no right individually , but when you see them buying as organization whole mountains , and opening a highway from Jezzine to Bikaa , you have to wonder what are the intentions !!! also when the Chritians are sellign the land in area where they are minority it should tell you that mixing up is not working , how you are going to mix up, when mufti Kabbani in Ramadan was referiring to Christian as Kouffar, with all the scarifice that the Christian did for the sunni fighting for Hariri , and he still call us Kouffar, it is imprinted in their religion, with all respect the Moslem religion is a racist religion with no tolerance for others or women ,mixing up is non existing in all countries that they are ruling, look at Egypt, the Salafis want now a legislation that prevent the Copt from holding high position in government , already there is no MP that is Copt in Egypt . When the religion is an issue it is very hard to change anything

        1. time to move forward, time for all of us to support those who promote a free Lebanon of all arms. without this crucial first step we can never move on to other key civil issues plaguing Lebanon.

  2. guss043 Avatar

    Bashir made a mistake and run for presidency , he should have been satisfied with what  we have ans build a wall separating the christian and moslem and just work on reconciliation with the Druze , we would have a nice enclave , as cardinal Bertoli suggested when he was sent from the Vatican in the early days of the civil war to mediate a solution, he ned up saying that no matter what the reason is for the civil war , underneath is that the 2 religion Christianity and Moslem don’t mix up they are and I quote him ” Like oil and water ” . As we can see what the Moslem religion can produce , terrorist and killers, and beyong all sweet talk about coexistence lay an intention to murder and kill. Just look at Nigeria they just created a brigade called ” Againt western Civilization ” and warned the Christian which consist of 50 % of the population to leave  Nigeria. in September 11 not one Moslem Sheikh apologized for what the assassins did ,but after Sept 11 women in Gaza , Egypt and all arabic world were distributing ” Charbat “. Lebanon has to be like Switzerland a confederation but the difference everyone one has an equal army and power,,we dont mix up other than superficially “Tibwis Leha ”  . Mr Fares I guess you are smart enough
    , the arm is to be used against Hizbollah or the Christians. Israel is not coming anytime soon to Lebanon, and trust me Jamma Islamiya or Irhabiya doesn t scare the Jews at all !!!

    1.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      Guss, the 5 principles of the Jamaa Islamiya …
      1. Spread the message of Islam.
      2. Organizing structures of members to the message of Islam culturally and socially.
      3. Protect themselves against the invasion of Western culture.
      4. Acting for a new society in which Islam governs individual behavior.
      5. Together the various mobilities Muslim around the back to basics.

      Jamaa Islamiya is just another shit stain to Lebanon.

      1. guss043 Avatar

        Niyilna bil Jamaa al Islamiya !! somehow many want to implement Islam, after 1400 years is it not yet implemented , I wonder what is not implemented yet !! 🙂

      2.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        I guess we Lebanese as a civilised society can not define what is right or wrong but we must always include a religion to tell us how to think and behave. Good Luck Lebanon for your bright future!

      3.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        I guess we Lebanese as a civilised society can not define what is right or wrong but we must always include a religion to tell us how to think and behave. Good Luck Lebanon for your bright future!

      4.  Avatar
        Anonymous

        I guess we Lebanese as a civilised society can not define what is right or wrong but we must always include a religion to tell us how to think and behave. Good Luck Lebanon for your bright future!

    2.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      Hi guss043,

      I sort of agree and disagree with you on a few aspects. As you probably know from earlier posts, I am big fan of Bashir and I agree 98% with all the decisions he made except for the killings he ordered by ID on Black Saturday or Sunday. Bashir could’ve opted for the easy way out and build a wall as you have suggested, and seperate the Xtians and the Muslims, but that would have gone against all the principals that he fought and died for. His death or martydom was the price he paid for the 10452 km2. He wanted all of Lebanon, with its Muslims, Druze and Xtians to live as Lebanese and put Lebanon first before religion and politics. So, IMAO I actually prefer what he did than build a wall. Lebanon will not be Lebanon without its Muslims, its Druze or its Xtians. Lebanon will be Lebanon when we are free from foreigners like the syrians, palestinians, iranians etc etc. 
      Water and oil do not mix when you leave them undisturbed, but they sure will mix well when you put them in a blender and beat the crap out of them. Australia has more than water and oil, actually over 200 races and religions, and they are living happily side by side with respect towards each other to the full extent of the law.
      Thats how Bachir would have wanted it! May he rest in peace.

      1. guss043 Avatar

        It is a long discussion, I am not sure to accuse Bashir o Balck Saturday after his death without court, as no one accusd Amal of the first killing of Christians the 3 persons who died coming from the Kuwait Rally and killed in Bekaa, ( John Basili etcc ) no one accused the SSNP of killing the 3 Christians who were the cause of Balck Saturday, Black Saturday was an accumulation of serial killing of Christians in Kaa, in Akkar, in the South and blinding and killing a monk in Tripoli, so let;s leave this ugly past behind as all the bastards were pardoned by Taef and only Geagea went to Jail . we know well who started killing on Hawiye and wasnt the Chritian who start it this .
        As building the wall , I meant it more as a separation , as everyone can go teach whatever he wants and allow drink or dont allow ( which it is now happening ,in Baalback and many Sunni area ).Bashir was going to proclaim his state prior to Israeli invasion , and he was planning to call for Lebanese to join him .We can’t keep dreaming and living in hope of having a state that is secular and religious leaders sit where they belong. As it is now most of the Chritian traditional post in government are lost,Berri  is caoable to stop appointment of outside ambassador and consul i it is not filled with his people, Bashir called this country a piece of cake ( Kitaat Gateau ) to be shared with fierce sectarian feudal leaders , and yourself you want to mix them when more than half the christian left the country . Do you call Lebanon without Christian Lebanon ?

         

        1.  Avatar
          Anonymous

          time to move forward, time for all of us to support those who promote a free Lebanon of all arms. without this crucial first step we can never move on to other key civil issues plaguing Lebanon.

  3. antar2011 Avatar
    antar2011

    this is a sad turn of events…..

    arms outside the control of official govt should not be tolerated from whichever side it comes…

    but let’s look a things from al Hout’s point of view for a minute….

    the govt has no control on security of its citizens…there is a side who is intimidating anyone by their arms and warning that it will not think twice before it uses it against others who oppose it while the syrian army is violating lebanese sovereignty and killing lebanese citizens with turning a blind eye from lebanese govt….the man cannot be blaimed to move this way…

    again so no one can misunderstan me…it is wrong to have weapons outside offiicial govt bodies…but this prohibition should be applied to everybody…including the resistance thieves HA. 
    if it does not, we have no right to say this side can arm but not the other…

  4.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    this is a sad turn of events…..

    arms outside the control of official govt should not be tolerated from whichever side it comes…

    but let’s look a things from al Hout’s point of view for a minute….

    the govt has no control on security of its citizens…there is a side who is intimidating anyone by their arms and warning that it will not think twice before it uses it against others who oppose it while the syrian army is violating lebanese sovereignty and killing lebanese citizens with turning a blind eye from lebanese govt….the man cannot be blaimed to move this way…

    again so no one can misunderstan me…it is wrong to have weapons outside offiicial govt bodies…but this prohibition should be applied to everybody…including the resistance thieves HA. 
    if it does not, we have no right to say this side can arm but not the other…

  5. Wait a minute, someone announces that they have formed an armed group openly and the state security or army does not step in and say something and go out there and confiscate weapons and fight if necessary to close down the group! That’s is what a normal military in any country would do, even in the most backward societies! I guess we are a lot more backwards than we think…. What a disgrace…

  6.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Wait a minute, someone announces that they have formed an armed group openly and the state security or army does not step in and say something and go out there and confiscate weapons and fight if necessary to close down the group! That’s is what a normal military in any country would do, even in the most backward societies! I guess we are a lot more backwards than we think…. What a disgrace…

  7. evil does not spread without followers, and followers  do not bond without a leader, every one of us should take note of history and its results and commit to personaly  reaching out to others from all sides on humanitarian and mutual moral values free from nationalizm, free from alegaince to any  party , brand or label… by doing so you make all political parties less powerfull  and outnumbered by  educated citizens  that knows better… currently the general public is weak and irrelavent and not taken seriously by politicians because most commoners are easily manipulated by manufacture outrage and propaganda.
     
       the ugly past is very  admissable  when we deliberate  our past failures  and we should  accept  no substitute for true unity as a human family , do not rely on anyone except yourself to make a difference, by setting a good example you help at least 2 people.

     all of us are very capable of deep love or deep hatred but should realize once and for all that nothing gets resolved by violence  that can not be resolved with with mutual respect,integrity and values. this should be considered a supperior way of life in contrast with taking up arms and returning to our vomit.

  8. evil does not spread without followers, and followers  do not bond without a leader, every one of us should take note of history and its results and commit to personaly  reaching out to others from all sides on humanitarian and mutual moral values free from nationalizm, free from alegaince to any  party , brand or label… by doing so you make all political parties less powerfull  and outnumbered by  educated citizens  that knows better… currently the general public is weak and irrelavent and not taken seriously by politicians because most commoners are easily manipulated by manufacture outrage and propaganda.
     
       the ugly past is very  admissable  when we deliberate  our past failures  and we should  accept  no substitute for true unity as a human family , do not rely on anyone except yourself to make a difference, by setting a good example you help at least 2 people.

     all of us are very capable of deep love or deep hatred but should realize once and for all that nothing gets resolved by violence  that can not be resolved with with mutual respect,integrity and values. this should be considered a supperior way of life in contrast with taking up arms and returning to our vomit.

  9. libnan1 Avatar

    Fares Soueid,
    You should listen to AOUN, pay attention dweeb…

  10.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Fares Soueid,
    You should listen to AOUN, pay attention dweeb…

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