Letter from rabbis’ wives urges Israeli girls not to date Arabs

A letter from about 30 prominent rabbis’ wives was causing a stir in Israel Wednesday because it urges Israeli girls not to date Arabs.

The open letter comes three weeks after the uproar caused by another letter, which was written by 50 state-appointed rabbis and told Jews not to rent or sell property to non-Jews.

The latest missive, which was published by some websites and news outlets, says Arab men act polite around Jewish girls and “act as if they really care about you,” but it says that’s a ruse. The men, it says, even change their Arab names to Hebrew forms like Yossi and Ami in order to get close to the girls.

The letter's signatories include: Daughter-in-law of Shas spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, wife of Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, Nitzhiya Yosef, Rabbanit Esther Lior – the wife of Rabbi Lior from Kiryat Arba, Rabbanit Shlomit Melamed – the wife of Rabbi Zalman Melamed of Beit El, Rabbanit Esther Levanon – the wife of Rabbi Elyakim Levanon of Elon Moreh, Rabbanit Starena Druckman – wife of Rabbi Meir Druckman of Kiryat Motzkin and others.

“This behavior is temporary,” the letter says. “As soon as you are in their hands, in their villages under their control, everything becomes different. You can ask dozens of girls who have been there. They will tell you it is all an act.

“As soon as you arrive at the village, your life will never be the same. The attention will be replaced with curses, beatings, and humiliations. Even if you want to leave the village it will be much harder. They won’t let you, they will chase you, they won’t let you come back.”

It urges Jewish girls not to go out with non-Jews or work in places that employ non-Jews.

“Your grandmothers never dreamt that their descendants would do something that will take the next generations of her family out of the Jewish people,” it says.

The letter was initiated by the head of Lehava, an extreme right-wing group that says it aims to prevent the “assimilation of the Jewish people” and works at “saving Jewish girls from Arab villages.”

“It’s known that girls who go out with Arabs are beaten, these girls are in danger. … There is a violent social trend and everyone ignores it,” said the head of the group, Anat Gopstein, in a radio interview Wednesday morning.

The head of Israel’s Reform movement, Rabbi Gilad Kariv, harshly condemned the letter and said, “Israeli society is falling into a deep, dark pit of racism and xenophobia,” according to spokeswoman Yuli Goren.

More than 30 female rabbis from the Reform movement published a counter-letter harshly condemning the one released Wednesday, Goren said. Kariv also called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Justice Minister Yaacov Neeman to speak out against it.

Among the rabbis’ wives who signed the letter is Nitzchia Yossef, the daughter-in-law of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the spiritual leader of the ultra-orthodox Shas political party. Esther Lior, the wife of extreme right-wing Rabbi Dov Lior, was another signatory.

Rabbi Yosef was one of the authors of the letter written earlier this month that urged Jews not to sell or rent property to non-Jews. It prompted widespread condemnation from politicians, human rights groups and leading rabbis in both Israel and the United States.

The letter, which was distributed to synagogues and published in some religious newspapers, had warned that those who defied the religious ruling should be ostracized. It said if one apartment is taken by a non-Jew, it devalues all the neighbors’ apartments.

More than 800 rabbis from around the world signed a petition against the letter, saying “statements like these do great damage to our efforts to encourage people to love and support Israel.”

The petition said “the attempt to root discriminatory policies based on religion or ethnicity in Torah is a painful distortion of our tradition. Am Yisrael (the Jewish people) knows the sting of discrimination, and we still bear the scars of hatred. When those who represent the official rabbinic leadership of the state of Israel express such positions, we are distressed by this … desecration of God’s name.”

Nearly 1.5 million Arab residents live inside Israel, making up 23% of the population.

A poll published Tuesday by the Hebrew University in Jerusalem showed that 48% of Israelis oppose the call to avoid renting or selling property to Arabs. CNN

  • JadM

    No REAL Muslim or even a Christian arab would want to have a serious relation with an Isreali/zionist woman anyways, a JEW possible but not an Isreali. So damn youre women and your corrupt single brain celled rabbis

    • libnan1

      I agree, I dated Jewish girls but never liked it. I guess the Jewish girls like the Arab 9 in extravaganza.

    • 7akibalash

      you’re a funny guy. is a muslim woman allowed to date a christian man or a jewish man in any of the muslim countries? I’ll save you the time NO and NO. btw 48% against it doesnt mean 52% for it, you are forgetting the undecided factor and the error margins. “What a truley corrupted society” what does it say about the islamic society to you? just wondering if you are being bias or just stupid.

      • Hannibal

        I dated Moslem girls and their parents were extremely nice to me. I am a Maronite by birth but believe in no organized religion and they knew that yet I was treated as one of their own. If you mean by Moslems Islamists those are not Moslems they are flat Earth believers and they still believe that there is an end to Earth horizon and that you may fall off the cliff if you reach it.

        • Guest

          I dated two Lebanese Christan girls,, their families were wonderful to me. But the Coptic Egyptian family of one of the girls I dated, was ready to kill us both.lol
          Happy new year man,

        • 7akibalash

          no, I mean muslims(ones who follow quran and mohamed). and I clearly said a muslim country, not a western one nor Lebanon.
          mohamed made it haram for a muslim woman to go with a non muslim man, unless he becomes a muslim. just ask any muslim who knows his books.

      • JadM

        Why do you always have the habit into seeing what you want to see only without looking on the general picture and get your facts straight. Keep emotions aside and read the below:

        Neither a muslim man or woman are allowed to date or have pre marital sex before marriage. A muslim man can marry a muslim woman and he can also get married to a Christian or a Jew. A Muslim woman can only marry a muslim Man….i cannot see why you cannot understand or even respect that.

        A muslim woman cannot DATE a Muslim man…not in the meaning of dating as the west understands it as going out alone without the supervision of th parents and having an intimate relation (sex is one form of intimacy). Not so long time ago premarital sex was not allowed by neither the christian or jewish communities either.. where does it mention in the torah or the bible that it is allowed???? Doesn’t the bible and the torah forbid adultary? it does and I respect that as a muslim as my religion forbids that too…so what is your problem?

        Is there corruption in some so called muslims, absolutely but that does not make ISLAM corrupt and here is where you need to make a distinction between ISLAM and its’ so called followers.

        It is not up to you to judje Islam especially that you do not know much about it.

        As for your undecided margin, I do not think it would exceed 1% which pretty much matches the number of functional cells in your brain

        • 7akibalash

          jadM,
          “Neither a muslim man or woman are allowed to date or have pre marital sex before marriage.” <<<< mut3a is in the quran.
          " A Muslim woman can only marry a muslim Man….i cannot see why you cannot understand or even respect that." <<<< that was point, but you have a problem with Jews who happen to believe the same thing, this makes you a hypocrite.
          christianity and judaism do not allow pre-marital sex. it is forbidden in both religions. islam is different though, cause islam allows sex with slaves, and allows mut3a(sex for money/prostitution), in the case of sunnis they call it misyar.
          yes the Bible forbids adultery and prescribes a punishment for it, in the case of islam, adultery is defined differently, for instance you can be married and have sex with your slaves and it doesnt count as adultery.

          "It is not up to you to judje Islam especially that you do not know much about it." << I know more about your islam than you aparently.. cause you are really sounding stupid in your comments.

        • 7akibalash

          BTW, only in your mind does dating someone mean sleeping with them.
          christianity and judaism doesnt frown upon a woman getting to know a man or vise versa before getting married.
          only in islam is this a bad thing.
          there are people in all religions that do not follow all the rules to the T, I am talking about that which is allowed and that which is not.
          in judaism, neither the man nor the woman are supposed to marry outside their faith. you see this as being ” truley corrupted society”, I showed you that islam teaches the same thing and asked you what you thought about muslim societies then.

          you are a hypocrite and you FAIL bigtime.

      • JadM

        There is nothing about Mut3a in the Koraan or in the Islam, this is a Shiite thing that Sunnis reject in meaning and practice. As for the Mesyar it has it is rules which are less strict than the traditional marriage standards, but it is nothing like adultary.

        Again you take my words out of contexts as I never attached JEW women… my problem is with the racisit Isreali women who think they are better than anyone in the world and they are the chosen ones. In both christianity and Jeudism the followers should marry from their own religion, In Isalm it is more open as it at least allows th marriage of the Muslim man of women from other religions.

        As for the woman knowing a man before marriage, in the sense of talking to him and getting to know more about his personality and his likes and dislikes, etc…. well it is allowed under the supervision of the woman’s parents and I cannot see why do you think that is a bad thing nor I care for you to understand that.

        If you know that much about Islam then you would already know your arguement against it is a losing battle, Islam does not need me to defend it from someone like you, someone who takes half the truths and twistthem in the way the suits him and then throws it back in the face of Muslims claiminh it is a mishap or and error in Islam, I will not be dragged to your low level. If you’d asked for help I would have given it to you, but with your aggressive attitude and lies you ain’t worth the trouble, die in your blindness and ignorance, just don’t let your grudge against Islam eat you alive, i truly pitty you

        • 7akibalash

          mut3a is in the quran buddy who are you kidding? the only reason you sunnis dont practice it because you say a hadith abrogates it, which is really funny cause how can hadith abrogate quran?
          surat al nisa2(4) aya 24:
          ….. fa ma istamta3toum bihi min hunna fa 2atuhunna ujurahunna faridatan …..
          you never read the quran have you?

          “Again you take my words out of contexts as I never attached JEW women” <<<< are you kidding me? those are rabbis' wives who issued the letter, think before you speak, you sound like a fool now.

          islam is rotting your brain aparently.

          so are you retracting your statement from earlier now that you realize your hypocricy? leaders of the Jewish community asking Jewish women not to date/marry non Jewish men shouldnt be offensive to you unless you find muslim women not being allowed to date/marry non muslims to be offensive too.

      • JadM

        Mut3a as in the sense the shiite practice it which as they describe it as being a short term predefined marriage (limited in a pre defined period of time) is not the same mut3a stated in the Quran. So what prohot Mohammad peace be upon him mentioned does not contradict in his hadith with the Quraan in anything. If you need to quote from the Quraan then it is again better to read the whole thing and understand the context, and even better get the interpretation and the background of both a Hadith or a verse of the Quraan from a Scholar.

        As for marriage in Islam there is always a Maher which is a dawny, there is an amount of money that the father or the custodial of the woman makes a condition upon the man to commit to prior to the agreement of him and his daughter. The amount of money is part advance (prior to marriage) and an amount in arears that a woman could ask for the man to pay either during the marriage or if the man decides to divorce the woman and he will have to pay. So again try to understandthe whole thing about marriage in Islam and the rights the woman have before trying to portray Islam as allowing prostitution.

        Does the Rabbis represent all the Jews in the World, does 48% of the JEWS around the world agree with the Rabbis, I guess not. The rabbis in Isreal came out with this ideas and not all the rabbis of the world. For instance if few sheikhs in Saudi came out with a certain fatwa that does not mean all the Muslims in the world agree for granted on it and there will still be room to argue, Saudi sheiks do not represent all of the Islam neither does Jewish Rabbis in Isreal.

        You keep on falling short in both words and in logic.

        • 7akibalash

          this is about mut3a not mahr, and if you knew your books you would know that mohamed made it ok for his men to have mut3a, the quran allows it and you sunnis claim a hadith abrogates it, and this is according to your scholars not mine. ujurahunna is not mahr, it is their wages which is talking about mut3a, sex for money.

          “fa ma istamta3tum bihi minhunna fa atuhunna ujurahunna”… nothing about mahr you liar. only mut3a and wages.
          you are not only dumb but thick headed too.

          I already proved to you that you are a hypocrite and now I dont even know what it is that you are blithering about, you agreed earlier that it is a Jewish teaching that Jews arent supposed to marry outside their faith, like it is for muslim women, but you find one to be dispicable and the other ok… you are a hypocrite and YOU FAIL BIGTIME!!!
          you either condemn both or keep your mouth shut about it :D that is my point all along, you cannot call others corrupt for doing one thing meanwhile you are doing the same thing and dont see it as being corrupt…
          you are too stupid for me to even argue with, it’s like you’re a third grader.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O3MTZ5UVWDZHXU66CQKMD7LHHE Rich

      Yeah right buddy boy, as if you would stand a chance in hell with some sweet looking Israeli Vixen! Many Israeli women are absolutely gorgeous. Having said that, I think it is wrong for the ultra conservative rabbis and their wives to discourage jewish women from dating arab men soley because of theri race. Not to mention that it’s just plain dumb. Anyone who has had even a tiny amount of physiology knows that the more people breed with others like themselves, the more chances for recessive genes to activate which will then cause cancer and other horrible genetic diseases. By seeking others of different gene pools, we decrease the likleyhood of these recessive genes causing sickness and eventually death to members of our families. I’ll take Science over Religion anyday!!!!

      • LucyintheSkywithDiamonds

        They might be politically ultra-conservative but religion wise they are not the most religious ones, these are just Orthodox rabbis. The ultra-Orthodox – the most religious don’t do politics, they disagree with Zionism (they believe Israel should be delivered to them by G-d directly and only), they don’t do the army (weapons and killing are a no no) and they don’t even work here in Israel. Basically, the most religious are pacifists.

        It’s not exactly the race – as I mentioned many of these rabbis’ families came on donkeys from Yemen – but it’s the religion. Judaism, if you read it conservatively, like other religions is not happy about inter-marriage. And Judaism to these people you see, is very often the only thing they have in common with rich, modern Jews who came from Western Europe and the US. And yeah, these people definitely take religion (their interpretation of it) over science or any other common sense.
        Peace,

      • JadM

        You don’t know me to be able to judge wether I stand a chance or not with an Israeli girl or not, besides this is not the point. I made it clear to make a distinction between a Jew Woman and and Isreali/Zionist Woman, I only have a problem with the latter not the first. Islam encourages men to getting married from women outside their gene pool and the reasons you have mentioned is one many. So I do agree with you.

      • Hannibal

        Right on Rich,
        Although I have a problem with Israel’s policies towards the Palestinians, I would welcome any day open minded people like you, even if you are from Israel, who would champion Science over Religion. At the end, we are all humans first regardless of what stupid religion or race we were born in. Science is the religion of God.

      • JadM

        By the way Rich, I would hold you to your word ‘ I’ll take Science over Religion anyday!!!! ‘ So you beleive science is way you reason things and judge if a particular thing or issue is good or bad….. why don’t you research the The Quraan and its relation to MODERN science…. and you will be able to use the SCIENCE to assure you of the true message of Islam and the Quraan in general. Let me know if you need help…

  • JadM

    No REAL Muslim or even a Christian arab would want to have a serious relation with an Isreali/zionist woman anyways, a JEW possible but not an Isreali. So damn youre women and your corrupt single brain celled rabbis

    • Anonymous

      I agree, I dated Jewish girls but never liked it. I guess the Jewish girls like the Arab 9 in extravaganza.

    • Anonymous

      you’re a funny guy. is a muslim woman allowed to date a christian man or a jewish man in any of the muslim countries? I’ll save you the time NO and NO. btw 48% against it doesnt mean 52% for it, you are forgetting the undecided factor and the error margins. “What a truley corrupted society” what does it say about the islamic society to you? just wondering if you are being bias or just stupid.

      • http://www.cadmeia.com Hannibal

        I dated Moslem girls and their parents were extremely nice to me. I am a Maronite by birth but believe in no organized religion and they knew that yet I was treated as one of their own. If you mean by Moslems Islamists those are not Moslems they are flat Earth believers and they still believe that there is an end to Earth horizon and that you may fall off the cliff if you reach it.

        • PROPHET.T

          I dated two Lebanese Christan girls,, their families were wonderful to me. But the Coptic Egyptian family of one of the girls I dated, was ready to kill us both.lol
          Happy new year man,

        • Anonymous

          no, I mean muslims(ones who follow quran and mohamed). and I clearly said a muslim country, not a western one nor Lebanon.
          mohamed made it haram for a muslim woman to go with a non muslim man, unless he becomes a muslim. just ask any muslim who knows his books.

      • JadM

        Why do you always have the habit into seeing what you want to see only without looking on the general picture and get your facts straight. Keep emotions aside and read the below:

        Neither a muslim man or woman are allowed to date or have pre marital sex before marriage. A muslim man can marry a muslim woman and he can also get married to a Christian or a Jew. A Muslim woman can only marry a muslim Man….i cannot see why you cannot understand or even respect that.

        A muslim woman cannot DATE a Muslim man…not in the meaning of dating as the west understands it as going out alone without the supervision of th parents and having an intimate relation (sex is one form of intimacy). Not so long time ago premarital sex was not allowed by neither the christian or jewish communities either.. where does it mention in the torah or the bible that it is allowed???? Doesn’t the bible and the torah forbid adultary? it does and I respect that as a muslim as my religion forbids that too…so what is your problem?

        Is there corruption in some so called muslims, absolutely but that does not make ISLAM corrupt and here is where you need to make a distinction between ISLAM and its’ so called followers.

        It is not up to you to judje Islam especially that you do not know much about it.

        As for your undecided margin, I do not think it would exceed 1% which pretty much matches the number of functional cells in your brain

        • Anonymous

          jadM,
          “Neither a muslim man or woman are allowed to date or have pre marital sex before marriage.” <<<< mut3a is in the quran.
          " A Muslim woman can only marry a muslim Man….i cannot see why you cannot understand or even respect that." <<<< that was point, but you have a problem with Jews who happen to believe the same thing, this makes you a hypocrite.
          christianity and judaism do not allow pre-marital sex. it is forbidden in both religions. islam is different though, cause islam allows sex with slaves, and allows mut3a(sex for money/prostitution), in the case of sunnis they call it misyar.
          yes the Bible forbids adultery and prescribes a punishment for it, in the case of islam, adultery is defined differently, for instance you can be married and have sex with your slaves and it doesnt count as adultery.

          "It is not up to you to judje Islam especially that you do not know much about it." << I know more about your islam than you aparently.. cause you are really sounding stupid in your comments.

        • Anonymous

          BTW, only in your mind does dating someone mean sleeping with them.
          christianity and judaism doesnt frown upon a woman getting to know a man or vise versa before getting married.
          only in islam is this a bad thing.
          there are people in all religions that do not follow all the rules to the T, I am talking about that which is allowed and that which is not.
          in judaism, neither the man nor the woman are supposed to marry outside their faith. you see this as being ” truley corrupted society”, I showed you that islam teaches the same thing and asked you what you thought about muslim societies then.

          you are a hypocrite and you FAIL bigtime.

      • JadM

        There is nothing about Mut3a in the Koraan or in the Islam, this is a Shiite thing that Sunnis reject in meaning and practice. As for the Mesyar it has it is rules which are less strict than the traditional marriage standards, but it is nothing like adultary.

        Again you take my words out of contexts as I never attached JEW women… my problem is with the racisit Isreali women who think they are better than anyone in the world and they are the chosen ones. In both christianity and Jeudism the followers should marry from their own religion, In Isalm it is more open as it at least allows th marriage of the Muslim man of women from other religions.

        As for the woman knowing a man before marriage, in the sense of talking to him and getting to know more about his personality and his likes and dislikes, etc…. well it is allowed under the supervision of the woman’s parents and I cannot see why do you think that is a bad thing nor I care for you to understand that.

        If you know that much about Islam then you would already know your arguement against it is a losing battle, Islam does not need me to defend it from someone like you, someone who takes half the truths and twistthem in the way the suits him and then throws it back in the face of Muslims claiminh it is a mishap or and error in Islam, I will not be dragged to your low level. If you’d asked for help I would have given it to you, but with your aggressive attitude and lies you ain’t worth the trouble, die in your blindness and ignorance, just don’t let your grudge against Islam eat you alive, i truly pitty you

        • Anonymous

          mut3a is in the quran buddy who are you kidding? the only reason you sunnis dont practice it because you say a hadith abrogates it, which is really funny cause how can hadith abrogate quran?
          surat al nisa2(4) aya 24:
          ….. fa ma istamta3toum bihi min hunna fa 2atuhunna ujurahunna faridatan …..
          you never read the quran have you?

          “Again you take my words out of contexts as I never attached JEW women” <<<< are you kidding me? those are rabbis' wives who issued the letter, think before you speak, you sound like a fool now.

          islam is rotting your brain aparently.

          so are you retracting your statement from earlier now that you realize your hypocricy? leaders of the Jewish community asking Jewish women not to date/marry non Jewish men shouldnt be offensive to you unless you find muslim women not being allowed to date/marry non muslims to be offensive too.

        • Anonymous

          mut3a is in the quran buddy who are you kidding? the only reason you sunnis dont practice it because you say a hadith abrogates it, which is really funny cause how can hadith abrogate quran?
          surat al nisa2(4) aya 24:
          ….. fa ma istamta3toum bihi min hunna fa 2atuhunna ujurahunna faridatan …..
          you never read the quran have you?

          “Again you take my words out of contexts as I never attached JEW women” <<<< are you kidding me? those are rabbis' wives who issued the letter, think before you speak, you sound like a fool now.

          islam is rotting your brain aparently.

          so are you retracting your statement from earlier now that you realize your hypocricy? leaders of the Jewish community asking Jewish women not to date/marry non Jewish men shouldnt be offensive to you unless you find muslim women not being allowed to date/marry non muslims to be offensive too.

      • JadM

        Mut3a as in the sense the shiite practice it which as they describe it as being a short term predefined marriage (limited in a pre defined period of time) is not the same mut3a stated in the Quran. So what prohot Mohammad peace be upon him mentioned does not contradict in his hadith with the Quraan in anything. If you need to quote from the Quraan then it is again better to read the whole thing and understand the context, and even better get the interpretation and the background of both a Hadith or a verse of the Quraan from a Scholar.

        As for marriage in Islam there is always a Maher which is a dawny, there is an amount of money that the father or the custodial of the woman makes a condition upon the man to commit to prior to the agreement of him and his daughter. The amount of money is part advance (prior to marriage) and an amount in arears that a woman could ask for the man to pay either during the marriage or if the man decides to divorce the woman and he will have to pay. So again try to understandthe whole thing about marriage in Islam and the rights the woman have before trying to portray Islam as allowing prostitution.

        Does the Rabbis represent all the Jews in the World, does 48% of the JEWS around the world agree with the Rabbis, I guess not. The rabbis in Isreal came out with this ideas and not all the rabbis of the world. For instance if few sheikhs in Saudi came out with a certain fatwa that does not mean all the Muslims in the world agree for granted on it and there will still be room to argue, Saudi sheiks do not represent all of the Islam neither does Jewish Rabbis in Isreal.

        You keep on falling short in both words and in logic.

        • Anonymous

          this is about mut3a not mahr, and if you knew your books you would know that mohamed made it ok for his men to have mut3a, the quran allows it and you sunnis claim a hadith abrogates it, and this is according to your scholars not mine. ujurahunna is not mahr, it is their wages which is talking about mut3a, sex for money.

          “fa ma istamta3tum bihi minhunna fa atuhunna ujurahunna”… nothing about mahr you liar. only mut3a and wages.
          you are not only dumb but thick headed too.

          I already proved to you that you are a hypocrite and now I dont even know what it is that you are blithering about, you agreed earlier that it is a Jewish teaching that Jews arent supposed to marry outside their faith, like it is for muslim women, but you find one to be dispicable and the other ok… you are a hypocrite and YOU FAIL BIGTIME!!!
          you either condemn both or keep your mouth shut about it :D that is my point all along, you cannot call others corrupt for doing one thing meanwhile you are doing the same thing and dont see it as being corrupt…
          you are too stupid for me to even argue with, it’s like you’re a third grader.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O3MTZ5UVWDZHXU66CQKMD7LHHE Rich

      Yeah right buddy boy, as if you would stand a chance in hell with some sweet looking Israeli Vixen! Many Israeli women are absolutely gorgeous. Having said that, I think it is wrong for the ultra conservative rabbis and their wives to discourage jewish women from dating arab men soley because of theri race. Not to mention that it’s just plain dumb. Anyone who has had even a tiny amount of physiology knows that the more people breed with others like themselves, the more chances for recessive genes to activate which will then cause cancer and other horrible genetic diseases. By seeking others of different gene pools, we decrease the likleyhood of these recessive genes causing sickness and eventually death to members of our families. I’ll take Science over Religion anyday!!!!

      • Anonymous

        They might be politically ultra-conservative but religion wise they are not the most religious ones, these are just Orthodox rabbis. The ultra-Orthodox – the most religious don’t do politics, they disagree with Zionism (they believe Israel should be delivered to them by G-d directly and only), they don’t do the army (weapons and killing are a no no) and they don’t even work here in Israel. Basically, the most religious are pacifists.

        It’s not exactly the race – as I mentioned many of these rabbis’ families came on donkeys from Yemen – but it’s the religion. Judaism, if you read it conservatively, like other religions is not happy about inter-marriage. And Judaism to these people you see, is very often the only thing they have in common with rich, modern Jews who came from Western Europe and the US. And yeah, these people definitely take religion (their interpretation of it) over science or any other common sense.
        Peace,

      • Anonymous

        They might be politically ultra-conservative but religion wise they are not the most religious ones, these are just Orthodox rabbis. The ultra-Orthodox – the most religious don’t do politics, they disagree with Zionism (they believe Israel should be delivered to them by G-d directly and only), they don’t do the army (weapons and killing are a no no) and they don’t even work here in Israel. Basically, the most religious are pacifists.

        It’s not exactly the race – as I mentioned many of these rabbis’ families came on donkeys from Yemen – but it’s the religion. Judaism, if you read it conservatively, like other religions is not happy about inter-marriage. And Judaism to these people you see, is very often the only thing they have in common with rich, modern Jews who came from Western Europe and the US. And yeah, these people definitely take religion (their interpretation of it) over science or any other common sense.
        Peace,

      • JadM

        You don’t know me to be able to judge wether I stand a chance or not with an Israeli girl or not, besides this is not the point. I made it clear to make a distinction between a Jew Woman and and Isreali/Zionist Woman, I only have a problem with the latter not the first. Islam encourages men to getting married from women outside their gene pool and the reasons you have mentioned is one many. So I do agree with you.

      • http://www.cadmeia.com Hannibal

        Right on Rich,
        Although I have a problem with Israel’s policies towards the Palestinians, I would welcome any day open minded people like you, even if you are from Israel, who would champion Science over Religion. At the end, we are all humans first regardless of what stupid religion or race we were born in. Science is the religion of God.

      • JadM

        By the way Rich, I would hold you to your word ‘ I’ll take Science over Religion anyday!!!! ‘ So you beleive science is way you reason things and judge if a particular thing or issue is good or bad….. why don’t you research the The Quraan and its relation to MODERN science…. and you will be able to use the SCIENCE to assure you of the true message of Islam and the Quraan in general. Let me know if you need help…

  • JadM

    No REAL Muslim or even a Christian arab would want to have a serious relation with an Isreali/zionist woman anyways, a JEW possible but not an Isreali. So damn youre women and your corrupt single brain celled rabbis

  • JadM

    No REAL Muslim or even a Christian arab would want to have a serious relation with an Isreali/zionist woman anyways, a JEW possible but not an Isreali. So damn youre women and your corrupt single brain celled rabbis

  • JadM

    48% of Isrealis oppose the letter which means 52% actually agrees on the discremination that the letter encourages. What a truley corrupted society…they say history did not do them justice and they were persecuted and then ow they are the ones doing the same things as hitler no so long time ago did to few thousands of them….they are worse than hitler when it comes to treating the palestinians. What a cruel and wicked country Isreal and its people is

  • JadM

    48% of Isrealis oppose the letter which means 52% actually agrees on the discremination that the letter encourages. What a truley corrupted society…they say history did not do them justice and they were persecuted and then ow they are the ones doing the same things as hitler no so long time ago did to few thousands of them….they are worse than hitler when it comes to treating the palestinians. What a cruel and wicked country Isreal and its people is

  • nabilabuzaid

    who wants to date these smelly goats anyway.

  • Anonymous

    who wants to date these smelly goats anyway.

  • LucyintheSkywithDiamonds

    What happened to the importance of being a mensch??? And the wives along with their husbands should be clear when saying Arab, cause a lot of these people came from what, Yemen? They are Arabs themselves.

    Such a desecration of the religion! In Judaism, the religion is transferred by the mother. It’s the simplest thing ever – doesn’t matter how ultra-religious or orthodox or how ultra-secular one is – we all accept the same rule: doesn’t matter what the father is, if the mother is Jewish the children are automatically Jewish. And this letter is aimed at Jewish women, not men.

    And come on, enough with the “they are nice to you until they take you to their home.” This is an old Western stereotype that still sticks today and these women have adopted, and it might be true often but they make it sound like its the rule.

    Anyways, there is nothing Jewish about racism as the reform rabbis and most others explain, au contraire. These are just regular, politically oriented, extreme right wing orthodox people. They are only Orthodox, they are not even the most religious ones, who never deal with politics. These wives and their husbands are not emancipated people, they only know religion from one point of view and nothing other than religion. Their racism, and that of all others who support them, comes mainly from feeling socially inferior themselves and of course brainwashing. But then again, before you start blaming Judaism, racism happens in all religions, as we all know. And sometimes its violent racism.

    May G-d bless all decent, NON prejudiced people of this world – no matter which religion and level of it they belong to.

  • Anonymous

    What happened to the importance of being a mensch??? And the wives along with their husbands should be clear when saying Arab, cause a lot of these people came from what, Yemen? They are Arabs themselves.

    Such a desecration of the religion! In Judaism, the religion is transferred by the mother. It’s the simplest thing ever – doesn’t matter how ultra-religious or orthodox or how ultra-secular one is – we all accept the same rule: doesn’t matter what the father is, if the mother is Jewish the children are automatically Jewish. And this letter is aimed at Jewish women, not men.

    And come on, enough with the “they are nice to you until they take you to their home.” This is an old Western stereotype that still sticks today and these women have adopted, and it might be true often but they make it sound like its the rule.

    Anyways, there is nothing Jewish about racism as the reform rabbis and most others explain, au contraire. These are just regular, politically oriented, extreme right wing orthodox people. They are only Orthodox, they are not even the most religious ones, who never deal with politics. These wives and their husbands are not emancipated people, they only know religion from one point of view and nothing other than religion. Their racism, and that of all others who support them, comes mainly from feeling socially inferior themselves and of course brainwashing. But then again, before you start blaming Judaism, racism happens in all religions, as we all know. And sometimes its violent racism.

    May G-d bless all decent, NON prejudiced people of this world – no matter which religion and level of it they belong to.