Climate Change – Existential Global Challenge.

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By Ghassan Karam

The Kyoto Protocol, the only international agreement to fight climate change, will come to an end in two years, 2012. The world, including the US who is not bound by Kyoto, has been trying frantically for over a year to come to agreement on what is to replace Kyoto. The Copenhagen conference, last year, turned out to be totally unproductive. Yet the major players have not given up hope for reaching an agreement that would be legally binding to all its signatories.

Unfortunately the progress has been very slow to nonexistent. The meeting at Tianjin, China ended up last week in total disarray. The meeting which was expected to resolve a few of the obstacles preventing an agreement was described by participants as being full of bickering.  “At times it has been like watching children in a kindergarten,” said Wendell Tio from Greenpeace International.

Although the talks are scheduled to move to Cancun, Mexico, next month not many are hopeful that the level of disagreement between the US and China will diminish. Kyoto divided the world into two groups, the developed and the developing, with the former subject to strict legal limits on its emissions of carbon dioxide while the latter is subject only to voluntary restraints. And that is the rub.

Officially China has become the largest emitter of carbon in the world, replacing the US but by all conventional metrics China is a developing country and so is refusing to abide by the US demands that China and other large developing countries should be subject to strict emissions quotas also. Obviously the Mr. Su, the Chinese representative at the talks, would have nothing of these demands.  Mr. Su likened the U.S. criticism to Zhubajie, a pig in a classic Chinese novel, by saying “It has no measures or actions to show for itself, and instead it criticizes China, which is actively taking measures and actions.”

It is this inability to view climate change as a global problem that demands a global solution that has wrecked Copenhagen, is threatening Cancun and will probably doom the final resolution to a meaningless gesture that will do nothing to control climate change. As long as various players are attempting to guard their own selfish interest then no meaningful solution is to be expected. This is a classic case of the tragedy of the commons whereby individual actors believe that they are doing what is good for themselves but wind up in hurting themselves and all other players as well.

Climate change is arguably the most important challenge that civilization has faced. This is not a regional problem but one that would affect everyone and everything. No one has the right to neglect this issue , not even the Arab countries who do not think of themselves as being large emitters of carbon. The data says otherwise. The largest emitters of carbon on a per capita basis are the five Arab gulf countries and these are joined by Saudi Arabia as the 14 largest in the world and then Oman as the as number 20. The Arab states as a whole emit over 1.5 billion tons of carbon dioxide annually which amounts to around 5 % of the global footprint. The Arab League has failed to take any measures to either control or diminish the carbon footprint of emissions in the Arab world. Actually, the record indicates just the opposite. Saudi Arabia has joined forces with China in order to torpedo any agreement in Copenhagen. Isn’t it time that the Arab world demands that its governments face their ethical and moral responsibilities squarely?

What do you think: Should the less developed be exempted from strict limits on emissions so that the developed will shoulder the greater part of the burden of emission reductions? Does nature discriminate on the basis of the national origin of carbon emissions? What would be a fair allocation of the burden and how heavy shed it be?

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19 responses to “Climate Change – Existential Global Challenge.”

  1. Sebouh80 Avatar

    Personally, I favor a strict emission control on both the developed and developing world.

    Realistically, speaking this will not happen in the present world order where each nation state is after it’s own selfish interest at the expense of the other.
    First let us all acknowledge that man made climate change is indeed a serious existential threat that our civilization has faced.
    The causes in my opinion has become well-known due to endless economic growth and expansion with limited avaialbe resources.
    Second the continuous dependence of fossil fuels for economic expansion and transportation which has lead to enormous increase in carbon dioxide emissions in the earth atmosphere.
    Third another contributing factor is the change of lifestyle in both developed and developing world.
    Ecological footprint literature and eco-justice literature are coming up with evidence that rising conspicuous consumption in the post-industrial revolution era cannot be sustained. While quantitative estimates have proliferated to show the feasibility of climate change control through technological intervention under a variety of assumptions studies are limited to quantify potential of emission reduction in lifestyle change.
    Overemphasis on techno-centric supply management strategy from either a lack of understanding the potential role of effective demand or from a lack of social and political will to admit limits to growth by constraint on the use of resources and an imaginary helplessness in the face of rising conspicuous consumption.
    Finally the massive Urbanization projects which is believed to be around 50% in the world has lead to immeasurable rift between the Urban and rural inhabitants.
    Moreover, it has been well known that our present economic system has always depended on technological innovations whenever it faced obstacles for economic growth and acummulation, but I’m afraid this cannot continue indefinitly without addressing the fundamental causes of climate change.
    The renowned environmentalist James Lovelock has given many extreme dire warnings of our planet’s future and this year in March 2010 interview with the Guardian newspaper, he said that democracy might have to be “put on hold” to prevent climate change.
    Mr. Karam, If the current Arab league is going to address to the Arab world about climate change than we are doomed.
    Sebouh Akharjalian

    1. Ghassankaram Avatar
      Ghassankaram

      Sebouh,
      I like your faith in the ability of the Arab League 🙂 Seriously though, it is important to realize that many parts of the Arab world can and should reduce their extremely high per capita carbon emissions.
      It is also important for the world community to stop the hypocracy. Climate change is essentially a result of human activity and we have a moral obligation to at least contain the potential devastating effects that will be felt all over the world. As you correctly point out, this is a global problem and so it cannot be dealt with from the point of vies of self interestonly. That will lead to tragic results. In the same way that the commons can be saved through “mutual coercion mutually agreed upon” so can climate change. This does not make it undemocratic but it essentially means that we agree to place restrictions on personal behaviour just in the same way that we impose speed limits on how fast one can drive on the highways.

    2. Ghassankaram Avatar
      Ghassankaram

      Sebouh,
      I like your faith in the ability of the Arab League 🙂 Seriously though, it is important to realize that many parts of the Arab world can and should reduce their extremely high per capita carbon emissions.
      It is also important for the world community to stop the hypocracy. Climate change is essentially a result of human activity and we have a moral obligation to at least contain the potential devastating effects that will be felt all over the world. As you correctly point out, this is a global problem and so it cannot be dealt with from the point of vies of self interestonly. That will lead to tragic results. In the same way that the commons can be saved through “mutual coercion mutually agreed upon” so can climate change. This does not make it undemocratic but it essentially means that we agree to place restrictions on personal behaviour just in the same way that we impose speed limits on how fast one can drive on the highways.

  2.  Avatar

    Personally, I favor a strict emission control on both the developed and developing world.

    Realistically, speaking this will not happen in the present world order where each nation state is after it’s own selfish interest at the expense of the other.

    First let us all acknowledge that man made climate change is indeed a serious existential threat that our civilization has faced.

    The causes in my opinion has become well-known due to endless economic growth and expansion with limited avaialbe resources.

    Second the continuous dependence of fossil fuels for economic expansion and transportation which has lead to enormous increase in carbon dioxide emissions in the earth atmosphere.

    Third another contributing factor is the change of lifestyle in both developed and developing world.

    Ecological footprint literature and eco-justice literature are coming up with evidence that rising conspicuous consumption in the post-industrial revolution era cannot be sustained. While quantitative estimates have proliferated to show the feasibility of climate change control through technological intervention under a variety of assumptions studies are limited to quantify potential of emission reduction in lifestyle change.

    Overemphasis on techno-centric supply management strategy from either a lack of understanding the potential role of effective demand or from a lack of social and political will to admit limits to growth by constraint on the use of resources and an imaginary helplessness in the face of rising conspicuous consumption.

    Finally the massive Urbanization projects which is believed to be around 50% in the world has lead to immeasurable rift between the Urban and rural inhabitants.

    Moreover, it has been well known that our present economic system has always depended on technological innovations whenever it faced obstacles for economic growth and acummulation, but I’m afraid this cannot continue indefinitly without addressing the fundamental causes of climate change.

    The renowned environmentalist James Lovelock has given many extreme dire warnings of our planet’s future and this year in March 2010 interview with the Guardian newspaper, he said that democracy might have to be “put on hold” to prevent climate change.

    Mr. Karam, If the current Arab league is going to address to the Arab world about climate change than we are doomed.

    Sebouh Akharjalian

    1.  Avatar

      Sebouh,
      I like your faith in the ability of the Arab League 🙂 Seriously though, it is important to realize that many parts of the Arab world can and should reduce their extremely high per capita carbon emissions.
      It is also important for the world community to stop the hypocracy. Climate change is essentially a result of human activity and we have a moral obligation to at least contain the potential devastating effects that will be felt all over the world. As you correctly point out, this is a global problem and so it cannot be dealt with from the point of vies of self interestonly. That will lead to tragic results. In the same way that the commons can be saved through “mutual coercion mutually agreed upon” so can climate change. This does not make it undemocratic but it essentially means that we agree to place restrictions on personal behaviour just in the same way that we impose speed limits on how fast one can drive on the highways.

  3. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Ghassan,
    Before I comment on your current article,You own me an explanation to a questions I raised during our last exchange.

    1. Ghassankaram Avatar
      Ghassankaram

      Prophet,
      This forum is not expected to be a tit for tat. But anyway, I never saw the response that you were referring to until now.
      I will not , at the moment, get into a detailed discussion about Wilayat Al Faqih but if I understand you correctly when you say that all Shia believe in it then I must say that this is not so. Iraqi marjaeiah never promoted or believed in the concept that is a relatively new interpretation by Grand ayatollah Khomeini.
      Let me also add that your weird interpretation of the Nazi remark is all wrong. i wish that you would go back and read the context in which it was used. the only point is that an idea is wrong irrespective of whether it stands a chance of being implemented or not. The support or rejection of an idea does not rest only on the strength of its proponents and so the argument that Hezbollah would not do XYZ is not the issue. They might not be able to execute an idea since they lack the power to implement but once the power is there then they will put the idea in practice. I strongly believe that we have a moral obligation to denounce and disagree with those ideas that we deem to be dangerous no matter .

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Ghassan,
        Thank you for your response. I assure you that I don’t view this forum as tit for tat either. I thought your statement was too important to ignore. I’ve always had respect for you and your comments( even when I didn’t agree with you) , and that prompted me to carry on with this exchange, hoping to clarify an important, and somewhat insulting comment.
        If you read my comment again, you would realize; that I never said that all Shiaa believe in this concept as practiced by Iran. I was very clear, when I said, that you need to distinguish between what Khaminai claims, and what the original concept is, as viewed by shiia in general. In other words, I was saying that Iran high jacked a concept and used, and abused it to justify its form of government.
        I did mention, if you care to read my comment again, that Most scholars, including the late Fadlalah, Sistani(marjaa in Iraq), Al khoei( late marjaa in Iraqis), Shamsedine, and the majority of Iranian scholars believe, that no one person, regardless of how knowledgeable he is, can be holy enough to hold such authority, except for the 11 Imams that preceded the prophet (according to Shiia belief). That meant exactly what you said; that the marjaaia in Iraq does not believe in it ,as practiced by Iran, since there is no possibility(in reality) of anyone to hold such a title, except for the last imam(according to shiia belief).
        Choosing Nazi term for comparison ,or as a reference , is what I thought was offensive to those who respect the concept in its divine form, not in the way Iran is practicing. You can describe the Iranian regime as you wish, but not the concept they high jacked from all Shiia.
        With respect, I rest my case.
        BTW, I know what I’m giving you for Christmas this year; A book on Wilayat al Faqieh. lol

        1. Ghassankaram Avatar
          Ghassankaram

          Prophet,
          Obviously I will never pretend to be a scholar on such issues but I have read a few books about Willayat Al Faqih and the history of the competition between Qom and Najaf. I do also visit occasionally the websites of Sistani and Fadllalah. Take care.

  4. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Ghassan,
    Before I comment on your current article,You own me an explanation to a questions I raised during our last exchange.

    1. Ghassankaram Avatar
      Ghassankaram

      Prophet,
      This forum is not expected to be a tit for tat. But anyway, I never saw the response that you were referring to until now.
      I will not , at the moment, get into a detailed discussion about Wilayat Al Faqih but if I understand you correctly when you say that all Shia believe in it then I must say that this is not so. Iraqi marjaeiah never promoted or believed in the concept that is a relatively new interpretation by Grand ayatollah Khomeini.
      Let me also add that your weird interpretation of the Nazi remark is all wrong. i wish that you would go back and read the context in which it was used. the only point is that an idea is wrong irrespective of whether it stands a chance of being implemented or not. The support or rejection of an idea does not rest only on the strength of its proponents and so the argument that Hezbollah would not do XYZ is not the issue. They might not be able to execute an idea since they lack the power to implement but once the power is there then they will put the idea in practice. I strongly believe that we have a moral obligation to denounce and disagree with those ideas that we deem to be dangerous no matter .

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Ghassan,
        Thank you for your response. I assure you that I don’t view this forum as tit for tat either. I thought your statement was too important to ignore. I’ve always had respect for you and your comments( even when I didn’t agree with you) , and that prompted me to carry on with this exchange, hoping to clarify an important, and somewhat insulting comment.
        If you read my comment again, you would realize; that I never said that all Shiaa believe in this concept as practiced by Iran. I was very clear, when I said, that you need to distinguish between what Khaminai claims, and what the original concept is, as viewed by shiia in general. In other words, I was saying that Iran high jacked a concept and used, and abused it to justify its form of government.
        I did mention, if you care to read my comment again, that Most scholars, including the late Fadlalah, Sistani(marjaa in Iraq), Al khoei( late marjaa in Iraqis), Shamsedine, and the majority of Iranian scholars believe, that no one person, regardless of how knowledgeable he is, can be holy enough to hold such authority, except for the 11 Imams that preceded the prophet (according to Shiia belief). That meant exactly what you said; that the marjaaia in Iraq does not believe in it ,as practiced by Iran, since there is no possibility(in reality) of anyone to hold such a title, except for the last imam(according to shiia belief).
        Choosing Nazi term for comparison ,or as a reference , is what I thought was offensive to those who respect the concept in its divine form, not in the way Iran is practicing. You can describe the Iranian regime as you wish, but not the concept they high jacked from all Shiia.
        With respect, I rest my case.
        BTW, I know what I’m giving you for Christmas this year; A book on Wilayat al Faqieh. lol

        1. Ghassankaram Avatar
          Ghassankaram

          Prophet,
          Obviously I will never pretend to be a scholar on such issues but I have read a few books about Willayat Al Faqih and the history of the competition between Qom and Najaf. I do also visit occasionally the websites of Sistani and Fadllalah. Take care.

  5. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Ghassan,

    Before I comment on your current article,You own me an explanation to a questions I raised during our last exchange.

    1.  Avatar

      Prophet,
      This forum is not expected to be a tit for tat. But anyway, I never saw the response that you were referring to until now.
      I will not , at the moment, get into a detailed discussion about Wilayat Al Faqih but if I understand you correctly when you say that all Shia believe in it then I must say that this is not so. Iraqi marjaeiah never promoted or believed in the concept that is a relatively new interpretation by Grand ayatollah Khomeini.
      Let me also add that your weird interpretation of the Nazi remark is all wrong. i wish that you would go back and read the context in which it was used. the only point is that an idea is wrong irrespective of whether it stands a chance of being implemented or not. The support or rejection of an idea does not rest only on the strength of its proponents and so the argument that Hezbollah would not do XYZ is not the issue. They might not be able to execute an idea since they lack the power to implement but once the power is there then they will put the idea in practice. I strongly believe that we have a moral obligation to denounce and disagree with those ideas that we deem to be dangerous no matter .

    2.  Avatar

      Prophet,
      This forum is not expected to be a tit for tat. But anyway, I never saw the response that you were referring to until now.
      I will not , at the moment, get into a detailed discussion about Wilayat Al Faqih but if I understand you correctly when you say that all Shia believe in it then I must say that this is not so. Iraqi marjaeiah never promoted or believed in the concept that is a relatively new interpretation by Grand ayatollah Khomeini.
      Let me also add that your weird interpretation of the Nazi remark is all wrong. i wish that you would go back and read the context in which it was used. the only point is that an idea is wrong irrespective of whether it stands a chance of being implemented or not. The support or rejection of an idea does not rest only on the strength of its proponents and so the argument that Hezbollah would not do XYZ is not the issue. They might not be able to execute an idea since they lack the power to implement but once the power is there then they will put the idea in practice. I strongly believe that we have a moral obligation to denounce and disagree with those ideas that we deem to be dangerous no matter .

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Ghassan,
        Thank you for your response. I assure you that I don’t view this forum as tit for tat either. I thought your statement was too important to ignore. I’ve always had respect for you and your comments( even when I didn’t agree with you) , and that prompted me to carry on with this exchange, hoping to clarify an important, and somewhat insulting comment.
        If you read my comment again, you would realize; that I never said that all Shiaa believe in this concept as practiced by Iran. I was very clear, when I said, that you need to distinguish between what Khaminai claims, and what the original concept is, as viewed by shiia in general. In other words, I was saying that Iran high jacked a concept and used, and abused it to justify its form of government.
        I did mention, if you care to read my comment again, that Most scholars, including the late Fadlalah, Sistani(marjaa in Iraq), Al khoei( late marjaa in Iraqis), Shamsedine, and the majority of Iranian scholars believe, that no one person, regardless of how knowledgeable he is, can be holy enough to hold such authority, except for the 11 Imams that preceded the prophet (according to Shiia belief). That meant exactly what you said; that the marjaaia in Iraq does not believe in it ,as practiced by Iran, since there is no possibility(in reality) of anyone to hold such a title, except for the last imam(according to shiia belief).
        Choosing Nazi term for comparison ,or as a reference , is what I thought was offensive to those who respect the concept in its divine form, not in the way Iran is practicing. You can describe the Iranian regime as you wish, but not the concept they high jacked from all Shiia.
        With respect, I rest my case.
        BTW, I know what I’m giving you for Christmas this year; A book on Wilayat al Faqieh. lol

        1.  Avatar

          Prophet,
          Obviously I will never pretend to be a scholar on such issues but I have read a few books about Willayat Al Faqih and the history of the competition between Qom and Najaf. I do also visit occasionally the websites of Sistani and Fadllalah. Take care.

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Ghassan,
        Thank you for your response. I assure you that I don’t view this forum as tit for tat either. I thought your statement was too important to ignore. I’ve always had respect for you and your comments( even when I didn’t agree with you) , and that prompted me to carry on with this exchange, hoping to clarify an important, and somewhat insulting comment.
        If you read my comment again, you would realize; that I never said that all Shiaa believe in this concept as practiced by Iran. I was very clear, when I said, that you need to distinguish between what Khaminai claims, and what the original concept is, as viewed by shiia in general. In other words, I was saying that Iran high jacked a concept and used, and abused it to justify its form of government.
        I did mention, if you care to read my comment again, that Most scholars, including the late Fadlalah, Sistani(marjaa in Iraq), Al khoei( late marjaa in Iraqis), Shamsedine, and the majority of Iranian scholars believe, that no one person, regardless of how knowledgeable he is, can be holy enough to hold such authority, except for the 11 Imams that preceded the prophet (according to Shiia belief). That meant exactly what you said; that the marjaaia in Iraq does not believe in it ,as practiced by Iran, since there is no possibility(in reality) of anyone to hold such a title, except for the last imam(according to shiia belief).
        Choosing Nazi term for comparison ,or as a reference , is what I thought was offensive to those who respect the concept in its divine form, not in the way Iran is practicing. You can describe the Iranian regime as you wish, but not the concept they high jacked from all Shiia.
        With respect, I rest my case.
        BTW, I know what I’m giving you for Christmas this year; A book on Wilayat al Faqieh. lol

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